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Old 05-08-2014, 12:15 PM   #481
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im very new to this diet and I am starting to realize I cant afford all these packets. I asked my couch about alternatives and she said that alternatives will absolutely not work in phase 1. Is this true or is she just promoting packets?
They work just as well as IP brand products and many, in my opinion, taste better. I made the switch about a month ago and haven't seen a slow down at all in weight loss. This forum provides fabulous support and is a great wealth of knowledge. The folks on this forum are great people to run questions by and in most cases, provided me with better (and unbiased) information than my coach had to offer. Nashua Nutrition is a great place to order foods similar to IP brand and they deliver to your door!
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I was just reviewing the guidlines on how to choose an alternative. For unrestricted, the rulel is 9+ net carbs. Does this mean that there can be like 40 carbs? Or is there a max amount? Also, the guide says no aspartame, but my couch said crystal light is good to flavor water but only two servings a day. Crystal light has aspartame in it. Im confused
Take the total carbs and subtract out the fiber. This will give you the net carb amount. The rule is 70-120 calories and 8 and under net carbs for unrestricted. Restricted is 200 and under calories and 9+ net carbs - I keep it at under 14 net carbs for restricted. You also want to keep the fat to 30% or under the total calories. No aspartame. I attached the list that I use to order products from Nashua - It has it all broken down...
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Murphy, thanks for that wonderful chart!
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Take the total carbs and subtract out the fiber. This will give you the net carb amount. The rule is 70-120 calories and 8 and under net carbs for unrestricted. Restricted is 200 and under calories and 9+ net carbs - I keep it at under 14 net carbs for unrestricted. You also want to keep the fat to 30% or under the total calories. No aspartame. I attached the list that I use to order products from Nashua - It has it all broken down...
MURPHY - I think you meant you keep RESTRICTED under 14 net? (You wrote unrestricted but that is under 8).
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I bought a pure protein container of powder. All the numbers fit for unrestricted but after I got home And looked it up on line, the cholesterol seems high at 45 mg compared to 5 in proti diet. it also has buttermilk powder. Would that make it a no no?

http://www.pureprotein.com/products/...ch-chocolate/#
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Thanks again, Laurie. This is sooo helpful!
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MURPHY - I think you meant you keep RESTRICTED under 14 net? (You wrote unrestricted but that is under 8).
Oh shoot! Yes, that is what I meant! Thanks for catching that!!
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I'm getting ready to start IP again. I had great success with it a few years ago, but money got tight and I wasn't able to maintain it, especially since anything I eat has to be gluten free. My faves were detour protein bar - caramel peanut - (not the sugar free blue label), EAS Carb Control, and one of the Nashua Peanut Butter Surprise bars. The bar was delicious, but the ingredients changed after my first order and I was no longer able to have it. Boo! I'm hoping to try some more HealthSmart products - the peanut butter crunch & chocolate covered peanut bars, and the Proticcino cold drink that I'm hoping I can play with to help my coffee addiction first thing in the morning. I've also looked at: Syntrax, Kay's Naturals.

I've gone through so many items on Nashua to see if I can have the forum's faves. I have a question about one.

Snackergy Zippers - Sour Cream & Onion

100 calories
3g fat, .5g saturated fat
8g carbs - 1g dietary fiber, 1g sugars
10g of protein.

Would that be alright? Anyway, thank you to everyone for all your posts!
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I'm getting ready to start IP again. I had great success with it a few years ago, but money got tight and I wasn't able to maintain it, especially since anything I eat has to be gluten free. My faves were detour protein bar - caramel peanut - (not the sugar free blue label), EAS Carb Control, and one of the Nashua Peanut Butter Surprise bars. The bar was delicious, but the ingredients changed after my first order and I was no longer able to have it. Boo! I'm hoping to try some more HealthSmart products - the peanut butter crunch & chocolate covered peanut bars, and the Proticcino cold drink that I'm hoping I can play with to help my coffee addiction first thing in the morning. I've also looked at: Syntrax, Kay's Naturals.

I've gone through so many items on Nashua to see if I can have the forum's faves. I have a question about one.

Snackergy Zippers - Sour Cream & Onion

100 calories
3g fat, .5g saturated fat
8g carbs - 1g dietary fiber, 1g sugars
10g of protein.

Would that be alright? Anyway, thank you to everyone for all your posts!
It is a tad light on protein... IP ranges 12-15, but otherwise looks fine. Stay in these ranges and you are fine:


Calories - 70 to 160 (over is getting more restricted and most people won't go above 200)
Fat - 30% or less calories from fat (take the number of calories from fat shown on the label and multiply it by three; result should not be over total calorie amount)
Unrestricted - 8 or less carbs net (carbs minus fibers)
Restricted - 9 to 16 net carbs
Super Restricted - 17 to 18 net carbs (1-2 per week)
Protein - 12 to 20
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JLUS is absolutely correct! I just started a reboot with alternative products and lost 7 lbs the first week! Check labels -- reads this thread and you can make your decisions as to what products you want to start using. I order from Nashua and usually purchase Health Smart, Proti Thin and Proti Diet products! BTW, I tried the Proti Then Fusilli with 1 cup cabbage and 1 cup zucchini with a little bit of Mrs. Dash Italian spice -- it was delish!!!
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I see proti diet has a pizza. I don't ever see anyone talk about it. Now that my chip craving is taken care of with the IP crisps, I am hoping I can cure my pizza and bread craving with this. Is there a reason nobody eats it?

8 net carbs, 100 calories and 1 gr of fat. 15 gr protein.

Based on that, it is actually unrestricted too.
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I see proti diet has a pizza. I don't ever see anyone talk about it. Now that my chip craving is taken care of with the IP crisps, I am hoping I can cure my pizza and bread craving with this. Is there a reason nobody eats it?

8 net carbs, 100 calories and 1 gr of fat. 15 gr protein.

Based on that, it is actually unrestricted too.
Some people on here do eat it. I bought a box and have tried it several times. I find that it is such a sad imitation of the real thing that it just makes me want a real slice even more.

Rainbow's English muffin recipe has real bread texture if that is what you miss. I make it with a beaten egg white in place of most of the water. It is a bit fluffier that way.
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I see proti diet has a pizza. I don't ever see anyone talk about it. Now that my chip craving is taken care of with the IP crisps, I am hoping I can cure my pizza and bread craving with this. Is there a reason nobody eats it?

8 net carbs, 100 calories and 1 gr of fat. 15 gr protein.

Based on that, it is actually unrestricted too.
I too have heard if you don't majorly doctor it IP, it' snot good at all, and even doctoring only makes it ok.

Try HealthSmart PIZZA protein chips (Nashua) and take care of both your wants in one nummmmmmy packet!
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I too have heard if you don't majorly doctor it IP, it' snot good at all, and even doctoring only makes it ok.

Try HealthSmart PIZZA protein chips (Nashua) and take care of both your wants in one nummmmmmy packet!
Unfortunately I am not in the US so Nashua isn't a great deal one I pay shipping and duty. I did order some proti diet here and got one pizza. I made it today. It was ok. Without cheese and pepperoni though it isn't pizza but it was nice to have something that was bread like.

I'll have to look for the English muffin recipe. I just find anything made with the potato purée tastes too much like chives.
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I am restarting tomorrow!
I received my order from Nashua, and I have a question regarding the sample packs of Nectar:
It looks as though there are a few servings per sample pack - how should I measure/divide it out? How much water should I use?
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