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Old 04-23-2014, 03:35 PM   #451
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I started IP with alternatives on March 24th. Lost 6.6 the first week, 2.3 the second week, 5.7 the third week, and 0 the fourth week. So far, I am only down about .5 for this week (I weigh on Mondays). I have found alternatives for all of the supplements and vitamins except for the Potassium so I have not taken any since starting IP. I have been unable to find Potassium Bicarbonate at any vitamin stores. My question is 2-fold:

1. Could not taking a potassium supplement be slowing my losses? I seem to be losing quite slower than many people on here, especially considering the amount of weight I am trying to lose.

2. Those of you taking alternative supplements, can you tell me where you get your Potassium Bicarbonate? I am having trouble researching online as I am not quite sure what I am looking for. 312 mg. is what is recommended, is that right?

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I started IP with alternatives on March 24th. Lost 6.6 the first week, 2.3 the second week, 5.7 the third week, and 0 the fourth week. So far, I am only down about .5 for this week (I weigh on Mondays). I have found alternatives for all of the supplements and vitamins except for the Potassium so I have not taken any since starting IP. I have been unable to find Potassium Bicarbonate at any vitamin stores. My question is 2-fold:

1. Could not taking a potassium supplement be slowing my losses? I seem to be losing quite slower than many people on here, especially considering the amount of weight I am trying to lose.

2. Those of you taking alternative supplements, can you tell me where you get your Potassium Bicarbonate? I am having trouble researching online as I am not quite sure what I am looking for. 312 mg. is what is recommended, is that right?

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Thanks so much!
I responded on the daily chat.
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Ok, I need some advice. I am trying to come up with a substitute for the IP Omelet packets. I cannot have them because of my food allergies. How does this sound?

I mixed together 3/4 C generic Egg Beaters, 1 T real precooked bacon pieces, and a dash each of dried chives, sea salt, pepper, garlic powder, and Kernel Season's Cheddar powder. I cooked it for two minutes in the microwave, in a bowl lightly spritzed with Pam spray. It was incredible! So yummy, and it kept me full for hours!

Nutritionals were as close to IP as I could manage. My omelet had 107 cal, 2g fat, 3g carbs, and 18g protein. IP Omelet has 110 cal, 3g fat, 3g carbs, and 18g protein.

Do you think that this is a reasonable substitute? Thanks in advance!
I just posted a response to this in the What Are You Eating Thread!

Ebb Beaters has a TON of unpronounceable ingredients you don't want to be eating!!!

Use one whole egg and three egg whites to sub for a packet... REAL food you can pronounce! I get a container of pure egg whites and LOVE my omelets!
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I just posted a response to this in the What Are You Eating Thread!

Ebb Beaters has a TON of unpronounceable ingredients you don't want to be eating!!!

Use one whole egg and three egg whites to sub for a packet... REAL food you can pronounce! I get a container of pure egg whites and LOVE my omelets!

Thank you for your quick response! My first though was packaged egg whites, but the grocery store was out of egg whites when I was shopping, and I wasn't sure about the calorie content in regular eggs. I grabbed the generic egg substitute in a panic, thinking that the math would be easy, at least!

I'm going to the store again tomorrow, and if they have restocked I will grab a carton. Thanks for the tip!

As a side note, I don't think I've done any harm by eating them. This brand actually has a very simple ingredient list, but I'll swap them for egg+whites if it will work better. I am having a hard time working around my soy/peanut/all other legumes/tree nut allergies, so if I can find a good solid breakfast, I'll be thrilled! Thanks again.

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Mainemom, I would have thought no to the bacon but it sounds like it works out with the nutritional breakdown. Sounds super yummy too! I might have to try that someday!
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Mainemom, I would have thought no to the bacon but it sounds like it works out with the nutritional breakdown. Sounds super yummy too! I might have to try that someday!
Technically the bacon bits are NOT allowed on IP. Remember, if it is not on the P1 sheet, it is a no go! Bacon will be allowed later.
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I just ordered some protidiet items. I didn't read the label well enough and see the vanilla wafers are 10 grams of fat and 150 calories. That means way more than 30% fat. Should I treat them as super restricted or not eat them at all?
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I just ordered some protidiet items. I didn't read the label well enough and see the vanilla wafers are 10 grams of fat and 150 calories. That means way more than 30% fat. Should I treat them as super restricted or not eat them at all?
I would probably save them for a once in awhile treat in Maintenance rather than add that much fat into P1.
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Just got an ultimatum from my counselor - if I continue to use alternate products they won’t see me anymore, even though I have 4 weeks left on my 3 month package. I understand that they are a business and need to make money – but their food is twice the price of places like Nashua.
So I have to decide if I am going to lie on the food diary or cut the cord a few weeks early. I was going to week to week afterward but I after this conversation I won’t. I have a scale and a tape measure and can do it myself.
Has anyone else gotten push back from their clinic about alternates? What did you do?
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Just got an ultimatum from my counselor - if I continue to use alternate products they won’t see me anymore, even though I have 4 weeks left on my 3 month package. I understand that they are a business and need to make money – but their food is twice the price of places like Nashua.
So I have to decide if I am going to lie on the food diary or cut the cord a few weeks early. I was going to week to week afterward but I after this conversation I won’t. I have a scale and a tape measure and can do it myself.
Has anyone else gotten push back from their clinic about alternates? What did you do?
Not normally a practice, but I would lie until your contract is up and then cut the cord. If you aren't buying their stuff, they will get suspicious anyway. I'm doing a mix of stuff so I buy a couple boxes a week. I used to buy more than 3 so they figure I gave stuff at home still.
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Just got an ultimatum from my counselor - if I continue to use alternate products they won’t see me anymore, even though I have 4 weeks left on my 3 month package. I understand that they are a business and need to make money – but their food is twice the price of places like Nashua.
So I have to decide if I am going to lie on the food diary or cut the cord a few weeks early. I was going to week to week afterward but I after this conversation I won’t. I have a scale and a tape measure and can do it myself.
Has anyone else gotten push back from their clinic about alternates? What did you do?
VERY FEW clinics/coaches will keep clients if they are not buying products from them. That is not unusual at all. As you recognize, that is the main part of their business. The higher cost of the food is "supposed" to also cover the coaching support, food journal review, guidance/counsel, weighing and measuring they are providing to you,

Unfortunately, all too often, after you start, some clinics seem to drop a lot of the support and you end up just being weighed, measured and sold your food until the next week. NOT ALL... but definitely some! Alternatively, some clinics end up with coaches that are poorly trained, have old information, or have their own agendas that are not always in keeping with IP.

So moving on to alternatives and "firing" your coach may be your best move at this point!

Good thing you have LOTS of excellent "coaches" and cheerleaders here. YOU CAN DO IT!!!

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Can y'all tell me if this product can be subbed for IP chocolate drink mix?

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1 gm Dietary fiber
Sugars 4
Protein 25
Carb 8
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I've tried to read this thread from the beginning, but I may have skipped a few pages. Is there a definitive answer on if ProtiDiet Soy Crisps (Chipotle, BBQ or White Cheddar) are Restricted or not?

I am traveling in 3 weeks, and will need things as portable as possible.
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I've tried to read this thread from the beginning, but I may have skipped a few pages. Is there a definitive answer on if ProtiDiet Soy Crisps (Chipotle, BBQ or White Cheddar) are Restricted or not?

I am traveling in 3 weeks, and will need things as portable as possible.
The second post of this thread gives you the nutritional values for calories, calories from fats, carbs and proteins to guide you in selecting all alternatives. Use it to compare the info on the soy crisps (I suspect the carbs will make them restricted but don't know the amount of carbs off hand.)
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The second post of this thread gives you the nutritional values for calories, calories from fats, carbs and proteins to guide you in selecting all alternatives. Use it to compare the info on the soy crisps (I suspect the carbs will make them restricted but don't know the amount of carbs off hand.)
Thanks! I started taking notes while on this site. I need to make a master of the nutritional guidelines.
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