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Old 08-10-2013, 11:31 AM   #1
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Question How long have you been on Phase 1

I am wondering if I just need to phase off.. I have been weighing the same for quite some time. I know I will keep loosing but, I would like to eat some bread! Thoughts?
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I am wondering if I just need to phase off.. I have been weighing the same for quite some time. I know I will keep loosing but, I would like to eat some bread! Thoughts?
My mini goal is 65 lbs by my 65th B-day (which is August 26th.)
I started this on Jan 10th...It is within spitting distance now...but I am not really sure I will actually get to that number on 8/26 ...I have about 3.5 lbs to go...and it's slow now.

That weight loss puts me in approximately the middle of the BMI and weight range for my height using a variety of suggested calculations and charts...

I'd like to go lower.....maybe 10 pounds. So I flip flop on when I'll actually go to phase 2. You have done fantastic in 1/2 the time it's taken me. By the 3 months mark, my thinking about what I REALLY wanted had changed a lot..... I actually decided I want a skinny-healthy-active-life ahead of me! By truly giving up the old me...some of what I used to want was truly gone.

What do YOU really want??
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My mini goal is 65 lbs by my 65th B-day (which is August 26th.)
I started this on Jan 10th...It is within spitting distance now...but I am not really sure I will actually get to that number on 8/26 ...I have about 3.5 lbs to go...and it's slow now.

That weight loss puts me in approximately the middle of the BMI and weight range for my height using a variety of suggested calculations and charts...

I'd like to go lower.....maybe 10 pounds. So I flip flop on when I'll actually go to phase 2. You have done fantastic in 1/2 the time it's taken me. By the 3 months mark, my thinking about what I REALLY wanted had changed a lot..... I actually decided I want a skinny-healthy-active-life ahead of me! By truly giving up the old me...some of what I used to want was truly gone.

What do YOU really want??
I really just want to be healthy.. being thin is nice too. However, I can run better and feel better. I think I will think about staying on IP until September ..( I actually started Feb 1st.) then phase off.. but good thing about this diet, we can do Phase 1 to loose those extra pounds...
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How long have you been stalled? If 4-6 weeks with no change in weight or measurements, it is probably time to do something different. Sometimes the body just needs a change.

There are certainly those folks who are strict "calories-in/calories-out" folks but I've read many researchers who are studying hormones that also affect weight. Hormones like leptin, ghrelin, cortisol can affect weight loss and can also get out of balance on very low carb (VLC) diets. So can thyroid markers. If the metabolism slows, weight loss becomes frustratingly slow, especially when we still have fat to lose. This is the "starvation mode" people discuss. Altho there may not really be such a thing, the body CAN slow the metabolism to preserve fat stores....exactly what we DON'T want it to do!

So, if you are like me, you have determined that the time doesn't matter, but the eventual goal does.

Set a date for a return to Phase 1 and phase off for a bit. Practice maintenance. Give the metabolism a break from dieting and then come back to it. Get some exercise & tone up in the meantime. Its all good b/c the number on the scale is just a number. It is REALLY all about improving health and wellness.

If it hasn't been 4-6 weeks, you may want to give it longer and see if your body will push past the stall.
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IP actually killed my thyroids and caused a stall. To get normal thyroid function back, I started to carb up. I dived into pasta, bread and ice cream. I expected my weight to go up. Instead, it dropped. I do not count calories at the moment, so have no real comparison. I think I eat around 1700-1800 calories most days. My losses are now very slow (1-2 lbs/month), but I guess if I go back to 1500 calories, they will increase again. I now had a three months break and will reassess at the end of this month whether I can safely go back dieting.

When you go off IP, just watch your calorie intake is and see whether you can keep it range bound. I found that water retention is worse on a regular diet than on a low carb diet. So, keep water weight in mind. As Lisa said, it's time to exercise.
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As Lisa said, it's time to exercise.[/quote]

I think this is the ticket!
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As Lisa said, it's time to exercise.

I think this is the ticket!
This was taken out of context.
Better would be to "phase off & add exercise while maintaining (or still losing) on p4"
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There are certainly those folks who are strict "calories-in/calories-out" folks but I've read many researchers who are studying hormones that also affect weight. Hormones like leptin, ghrelin, cortisol can affect weight loss and can also get out of balance on very low carb (VLC) diets. So can thyroid markers. If the metabolism slows, weight loss becomes frustratingly slow, especially when we still have fat to lose. This is the "starvation mode" people discuss. Altho there may not really be such a thing, the body CAN slow the metabolism to preserve fat stores....exactly what we DON'T want it to do!
Lisa,

I just read an article today which confirms exactly what you say. The human body is not just a storage locker!

Thermodynamic Edge For Low Carbohydrate Diets: SUNY Downstate Researchers Say All Calories Are NOT Alike

In a paper published in Nutrition Journal (Open Access, available without subscription at http://www.nutritionj.com/home), two researchers from SUNY Downstate Medical Center show that low carbohydrate, high protein diets can be expected to be more effective than low fat diets, going against long standing prejudice of the nutritional community, which has claimed that only calories count.

(PRWEB) July 31, 2004 -- “There are numerous examples of low carbohydrate diets being more effective than low fat diets with the same number of calories. It doesn’t always happen but it can happen,” said Dr. Richard Feinman of the Department of Biochemistry. “The nutritional establishment has been reluctant to accept this, because they say it violates the law of thermodynamics. However, they never seriously look at the thermodynamics, which not only says its possible, but it is to be expected.” he added.

In their paper, Dr. Feinman and Dr. Eugene J. Fine explain that thermodynamics is as much about efficiency as it is about energy conservation. Carbohydrate is an efficient fuel, whereas protein is not. On a low carbohydrate/high protein diet, even though total energy is conserved, more energy is wasted as heat, a process known as thermogenesis. This energy comes from burning fat.

The researchers stress that “the human body is not a storage locker. It is a machine and the efficiency of the machine is controlled by hormones and enzymes. Carbohydrates increase insulin and other hormones that regulate enzymes, leading to storage rather than burning of fat.”

“Of course, people are different” said the authors, “but many people are sensitive to the effects of carbohydrates and for them, a low carb diet is going to work well.”

The practical point is that getting rid of the idea that “a calorie is a calorie” opens the door for serious research into what kind of diets will be most effective and which people will benefit most. “This is important,” they explain “because millions of people are seriously trying to lose weight on low carbohydrate diets, and instead of being given directions on the best way to do this, they have been largely discouraged by health professionals and self-appointed expert groups. The obesity epidemic is too important to allow this to happen.”

Note to editors/reporters: You can read the entire scientific paper by going to http://www.nutritionj.com/home and clicking on “Provisional PDF” at the bottom of the headline.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/7/prweb145415.htm
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Thanks for posting that Annik.

If you do decide to take a break I would advise adding carbs back carefully. I instantly regained 5 pounds by third day of phase 3 and will always have to limit carbs.
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I have been watching some Jimmy Moore talks on Youtube about nutritional ketosis. He is apparently so carb sensitive that he even has to limit his intake of greens.

Has anyone heard of or done one of his LowCarb Cruises? They sound like they could be interesting, informative and possibly fun!
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