Anyone on the Alternative Protocol?
This is my second day in the first week on the Alternative Protocol. I needed to start slowly because I am a diabetic and on coumadin and my Dr wanted more control on my blood levels. So far so good.
The diabetic part is not a big concern but my INR levels are. I have a blood disorder (Protein S deficiency) and have to be careful that I don't fall too low as my blood will clot and it is very dangerous if I fall out of therapeutic levels. I am doing my best to go slow at first and monitor levels weekly to keep me safe. I believe I will be just fine and I need to lose this weight for my better health. I am 58 years young, 5'6" and 271 pounds. Been overweight the last 29 years but this last year gained 20 pounds and I am really feeling it. I'm looking for some support with the Alternative Plan but know I will also find it with those on the regular protocol. We are all heading in the same direction eh? Thank you for all of the wonderful weight loss stories, encouragement and inspiration I have found so far. I am really excited by all of the results and learning about how to be creative with recipes and ideas. |
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Hi I googled, found 3 Fat Chicks and your thread, so I just joined...I am a Type 1 diabetic and am having such a hard time losing weight... I have gone on WW diet in the past ...and lost weight BUT the cost to me (loss of my diabetic control) is too high. I would just like to talk to someone who understands. This morning I just learned about the Alternate Protocol ...I have previously asked a clinic that does the Ideal Protein Weight Loss but they told me they would not take me because I am Type 1...I am open to anyone's suggestions. Hope I hear back from you!!
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Wow thanks, my bad... i am terribly new to this stuff... so my partner was just diagnosed as hypoglycemic and it certainly is simliar to my diabetic episodes... how are you doing?
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The real test for me will be when I go off IP into maintenance and see what happens to my blood sugar then. I was in a crazy carb-addiction blood-sugar crashing cycle before IP. I think if I do maintenance as recommended by IP, I will have broken that cycle and will be able to get a true grip on my hypoglycemia as IP maintenance is all geared towards normalizing your insulin and blood sugar. |
Hi, all. I am an IP - and 3 Fat Chicks - newbie. I am excited to hear that there may be an Alternative Protocol available!
My mom has been following my IP progress closely and I think she would be open to trying. But cost issues aside, she has diabetes and I have had my doubts as to whether the program would be safe for her. Obviously, she's got to be working with her doctor, but I did wonder. I will have to ask my coach if our location offers the Alternative Protocol at my next weigh in. :carrot: |
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Thanks for the info, Nola! I'll have to check it out!
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Hello im looking to possibly do the alternative to the ideal protein can someone help me to get started?
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Had a hard time finding this tread. I kept finding ones that were using alternative products. FOr those looking there is a PDF you can download just by googling ideal protein alternative plan. It is the same as the one my coach gave me. I am starting IP again tomorrow, I went off for a year and really only gained a little, but right in the middle!! I can't wait to lose that belly flab again and feel smaller!! I will be doing the Alternative plan because I have started working out more and don't want to lose that momentum and motivation. Anyone have any good stats on how much they have lost doing the ALT plan? I hope I will lose as I did before.
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My husband is a Type 1 Diabetic and doing the Alternative IP Protocol with Alternative Products..so he's DOUBLY Alternative. He lost 24 lbs the first 5 weeks he was on, but has stalled in the past 3 weeks, HOWEVER, I measure him and he is losing inches (so it's really NOT considered a "Stall"). He follows the Alternative Protocol sheet I downloaded for him off the sticky and is sticking to it. He does a drink with two pieces of whole grain toast in the morning, a packet, two cups of veggies, and some LF yogurt at lunch then his protein and veggies at dinner (he doesn't do another member from the third group for dinner), then he'll have some apple cinnamon soy puffs for snack at night.
My Mom is getting ready start the Alternative Protocol also. I'll let you know how that goes. Good luck to you! If you have any questions, I'll answer them as best I can! |
I began mid feb doing alternative protocol and products and I'm down 25 lbs. I'm actually phasing off of metformin. I was diagnosed with type 2 3 years ago and finally made the commitment to myself to get healthy at 52 years old. Better late than never I guess. :)
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Thanks for the replies. So far today has been fine. I only added a banana to my shake this a.m. and blended it up good and then had 1 slice of dry sprouted grain toast with my salad and chicken soup packet for lunch. I plan on doing a egg white frittata with feta and spinach for dinner. I am not a meat eater really so that is why I got tired of the program before. I just could not stomach anymore meat. I also cannot have much soy so I stick with the shakes for the most part. I am about an hour from a center now so I order the shakes from New Lifestyles Diet online and get the exact pre-made chocolate shakes (in different packaging of course) for a lot cheaper. I would love to hear updates on how you and your loved ones who are doing this are doing.
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hi Prettygirl, I am on the Ip alternative program with ip products. This is my second time around with the ip diet. First time I joined 2 years ago through a chiro's office and they were not helpful at all- I think they were in it for the $$$ and certainly not for the health of their patients. but I did manage to loose 55 lbs. with the support of 3fat chicks and family. the "coach" was a male who had lost about 10 pounds on ip (a requirement by IP to have been on the diet and no clue about the emotional and support part for clients struggle with years of weight issues. every time i weighed in, even though i lost - his comments and his business like attitude made be feel awful about myself, like the only reason i was fat was because i couldn't control myself- jerk. I am type 2 diabetic and they put me on the regular program. Needless to say I had lots of issues with low blood pressure, very cranky and low blood sugar levels and almost listless all the time. My doctor didn't like that I was on ip and would not support it or adjust my metformin or work with me on it. I got so frustrated with the lack of support that I quit and gained 30 pounds back. In March I rejoined at a different clinic supervised by an actual medical doctor and he put me on the alternative program and is monitoring my blood sugars regularly. he has already adjusted my dosage and says if I continue I will be off it completely in another 6 weeks. I will then switch to to the regular program. Sorry if this is a bit long winded but wanted to let you know that the alternative program is meant for diabetes but you need good medical support. Stick with it and shop around for a good coach and doctor to support your journey as it makes a huge difference. I am still losing 2 to 4 pounds a week and 5th week in I lost 6.5- all the best in your journey.
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Official "Ideal Protein Alternative Plan Phase 1"
Is anyone doing the actual IP Alternative Plan....
I am not talking about using alternative products as a substitute for IP foods.... I am talking about the Official IP Protocol Alternative Plan?? |
No... but tell us more!
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I am in my second week on the Alternate plan. I started IP in late March, and though I was losing weight consistantly, I felt terrible. Was never able to get past feeling dizzy and had really low energy. These problems combined with the fact that at the end of June I'll be going to Hawaii for 3 weeks where I'll be very active every day, compelled me to switch. I didn't want to go off plan while on vacation, but would never be able to keep up with my family if I wasn't getting more food.
My weigh-in last week had me down 1 lb and 1.5 inches. My initial reaction was disappointment, but I've gotten past by reminding myself that having a way to steadily lose weight and learning to be healthy trumps instant fix. |
I think Nola was doing the alternate phase one. She's a maintainer now, not sure if she checks in on the other threads that often.
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Forgot to add that I am feeling MUCH better since switching. :) The hardest part is the mental games of being fearful of adding in foods I had just trained myself to be forbidden.
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Here is the link for the alternative plan
For newcomers, this is different than using alternative packets. This plan is for diabetics and people with other medical contraindications for being on the strict IP. |
I've been on the alternate plan since I began mid Feb. Averaging 2 pound loss per week. Not as fast as some others, but I feel better and I think it is helping me to understand what I will need to do in maintenance. I also was afraid of not getting enough food for my body size and being dizzy etc. I was a diabetic when I began this plan but I'm off all of the metformin and have reduced some other meds as well.
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I should also add that I'm the alternate/alternate plan. Mostly proti-diet and now delicious Quest bars.
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My daughter in-law is following the alternative plan. She choose it because of her level of exercise. She wanted to and has lost a little over 10 pounds for the upcoming wedding in two weeks. She was very successful with the plan.
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My husband was doing the Alternative IP plan. He is Type 1 Diabetic and it worked well for him. he lost 25 lbs.
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Is this alternative plan something new? I had been on the original plan and lost about 25 pounds. I am so upset with myself for gaining it back. I just did a major move and stressed out and ate and ate and ate all my original bad habit stuff. So here I am ready to start over but I cannot afford to get back on it with the prices. Any suggestions? I'm ready to lose a good 20 again :)
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The alternate phase 1 for diabetics plan is not new, it's been around a while.
If you want to do either the regular or alternative phase 1 using store bought items (alternative items) you can check out some of the threads here. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...s-vol-1-a.html http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...ternative.html I used a lot of items from Nashuanurtition.com and also some store bought items. It was about 1/3 the cost of the IP products. I still used the actual IP supplements though as I thought they were a good quality and worth the money. |
I know everyone is different but I wish there was more info on the diff in weight loss from phase 1 reg and phase 1 alternative.
I looked at the alternate sheet and OH, to have a serving of fruit or yogurt. How yummy! I love fruits way more than veggies although I understand veggies are still imp. in the alternative plan. |
I found a plant-based protein supplement that appears to be similar to IP in calories, fat, carbs, and protein. Anyone had experience with this brand/product? https://shop.myvega.com/products/veg...one-shake.html
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GNC brand Alternative to IP?
Does this look similar to IP shakes?
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12104889 |
This thread is for the alternative plan, rather than for alternate products.
It gets confusing, especially to newcomers. The alternative plan allows fruit and dairy and keeps you OUT of Ketosis. Here is the thread for alternative product questions/discussion http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...s-vol-1-a.html |
[QUOTE=lisa32989;4792089]This thread is for the alternative plan, rather than for alternate products.
It gets confusing, especially to newcomers. The alternative plan allows fruit and dairy and keeps you OUT of Ketosis. Oops! I'm sorry! Thank you for the link |
I am not diabetic but decided to try the alternative program in order to stop the slow gradual weight gain after losing 30 lbs. I track and it seems that my carbs are kind of high, and that makes me nervous. I seem to be averaging 96 carbs a day and 135 protein. Does anyone know if this is to high? :?:
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