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Old 08-29-2010, 01:27 PM   #136
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Default KoolAid Jello

So, I made my "alternative protein jello" using unsweetened cherry flavoured KoolAid, xylitol and unflavoured whey protein powder. A real success, I think. Next time I'll use a different sweetener, as I'm worried the xylitol may take me out of ketosis. There is a very slight protein powder and sweetener aftertaste, but it is yummy all the same.

Here's how I made it for 2 protein servings:
1 envelope unsweetened KoolAid
1 envelope plain gelatin (to set 2 cups liquid)
2 cups water--1 hot, 1 cold
xylitol or other sweetener to taste
2 scoops unflavoured protein powder

Basically, make just like regular Jello. Use the hot water to melt the gelatin, sweetener and flavour crystals. Shake up the protein powder in the cold water and then add to the gelatin mix. Stir well. Pour into serving dishes and chill until set (three hours or more). For a less intensive flavour, use only half the KoolAid or add extra water and more gelatin.

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My sister found these great shakes at Costco:

http://www.premiernutrition.com/prod...ein_shake.html

She's set to start on IP September 7. I'm really excited for her.
That is the shake I have been using once a day almost since I started on IP. I love them. I mix mine with ice every morning, add two teaspoons of coffee and some splenda. It makes a wonderful, smooth, ice cream like shake. Unfortunately, my Costco only carries chocolate.

I did buy the EAS low carb vanilla shakes at Wal-Mart on Friday. I sure am glad I only bought a four pack. I tried making my "milk shake" twice this weekend. No way. All you get with this is a "slushie". I will have to look for something else. I am spoiled now with that wonderful chocolate shake!

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HELP! I am looking for information on alternative products and was on the newlifestylediet.com website, but am unsure of what the guidelines are to calories, protein carbs etc. My coach was very unhelpful, and there was no guidance other than eat this. I am learning a lot here, however still need to learn a lot more to be successful. I am hoping someone here can help. I cannot afford to just use IP products. thanks!
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HELP! I am looking for information on alternative products and was on the newlifestylediet.com website, but am unsure of what the guidelines are to calories, protein carbs etc. My coach was very unhelpful, and there was no guidance other than eat this. I am learning a lot here, however still need to learn a lot more to be successful. I am hoping someone here can help. I cannot afford to just use IP products. thanks!
Jaedee31, I say this with all kindness I can dish up with a side order of : Have you read this thread from the start?

There is LOTS of information in the almost 150 messages to help you select products that will work for you. There's even a summary of nutrition facts for the newlifestyles product on the first page, the 4th post. IP product nutrition facts are in the post immediately below. Matol and Lindora product summaries are there as well.
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I just tried a product that I bought at the Vitamin Shoppe. The name is JayRobb Whey protein. I bought one packet of vanilla just to try it. I have to say it was really good. I mixed it with ice and a few extras to make a shake. It mixed pretty well with the ice. That seems to be my problem with alternative products. I like them to mix as a nice smooth creamy shake. Many products simply will not do this!

Anyway, here is the link to the nutritional value if anyone is interested. It is a little pricier than some of the other alternatives. If you buy the powder in a 1.5 lb container it works out to be just under $2 per serving. This is still half the price of the IP products.

If you see any reason why this product should not be used as an alternative, please let me know.

http://www.jayrobb.com/cat_proteinWh...sp#Nutritional Information
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Soy protein or whey protein? Does it matter? Have we already had this discussion?
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I know that soy is not good for people with thyroid issues as it can reduce the metabolism for these folks. I don't know if whey is an issue for those with lactose intolerance. EAS shakes have both in them I believe.
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Our clinic does not promote the use of EAS drinks. Please see the consumer report on this as they contain metals, etc.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...view/index.htm
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Our clinic does not promote the use of EAS drinks. Please see the consumer report on this as they contain metals, etc.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...view/index.htm
The above link does not provide the suggested information unless you have a subscription.

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We purchased 15 protein powders and drinks mainly in the New York metro area or online and tested multiple samples of each for arsenic, cadmium, lead, and mercury. The results showed a considerable range, but levels in three products were of particular concern because consuming three servings a day could result in daily exposure to arsenic, cadmium, or lead exceeding the limits proposed by USP.

We found that three daily servings of the ready-to-drink liquid EAS Myoplex Original Rich Dark Chocolate Shake provides an average of 16.9 micrograms (g) of arsenic, exceeding the proposed USP limit of 15 g per day, and an average of 5.1 g of cadmium, which is just above the USP limit of 5 g per day. Concentrations in most products were relatively low, but when taking into account the large serving size suggested, the number of micrograms per day for a few of the products was high compared with most others tested.

The samples of Muscle Milk Chocolate powder we tested contained all four heavy metals, and levels of three metals in the product were among the highest of all in our tests. Average cadmium levels of 5.6 g in three daily servings slightly exceeded the USP limit of 5 g per day, and the average lead level of 13.5 g also topped the USP limit of 10 g per day. The average arsenic level of 12.2 g was approaching the USP limit of 15 g per day, and the average for mercury was 0.7 g, well below the USP's 15 g-per-day limit. Three daily servings of Muscle Milk Vanilla Crme contained 12.2 g of lead, exceeding lead limits, and 11.2 g of arsenic. A fourth product, Muscle Milk Nutritional Shake Chocolate (liquid), provided an average of 14.3 g of arsenic per day from three servings, approaching the proposed USP limit.

Cadmium raises special concern because it accumulates in and can damage the kidneys, the same organs that can be damaged by excessive protein consumption. And it can take 20 years for the body to eliminate even half the cadmium absorbed today.

"This is a highly toxic metal, and while there are some cases where decisions have to be weighed against relative risks, accepting that you have to be exposed to any cadmium at all in your protein drink after your workout is definitely not one of them," says Michael Harbut, M.D., director of the Environmental Cancer Initiative at the Karmanos Cancer Institute in Royal Oak, Mich.

"When these toxic heavy metals are combined in a product that is marketed for daily use, that raises serious public health concerns, especially for pregnant women, children, and young adults," says Burns, who has been a toxicology consultant to state and federal government agencies.

For most people, protein drinks are not the only possible source of exposure to heavy metals, but they are an easily avoidable one, since most people can meet their protein needs, help minimize exposure to contaminants, and save money by choosing the right foods.

Shellfish and organ meats such as liver can be high in cadmium, and some plant foods such as potatoes, rice, sunflower seeds, spinach, and other leafy greens can also take in significant amounts of the metal from the environment, due in large part to the use of cadmium-containing phosphate fertilizers, according to Bruce A. Fowler, a researcher at the federal Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. Food and Drug Administration research suggests that foods such as milk, yogurt, eggs, poultry, and red meats are generally good protein sources that seem to contain little or no cadmium, lead, arsenic, or mercury. For perspective about the relative risks exposure to those metals can pose, consider the agency's list of 275 hazardous substances at toxic waste sites: Arsenic, lead, and mercury rank Nos. 1, 2, and 3, and cadmium is No. 7, based on risks to people around those sites.

Robert Wright, M.D., an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, who is conducting research on the health effects of exposure to toxic metals, says, "Small amounts of exposure are inevitable, but a product that exceeds the USP limit is clearly doing something wrong."

Being exposed simultaneously to a mixture of toxins can also potentially increase health risks, particularly when they target the same organs or systems, as some metals we detected do, according to Harbut. He says that this is the result of a synergistic effect, meaning the effects of two toxic substances together can be even greater than those of the sum of the two, and not enough research has been done to determine whether that occurs from multiple exposures to even relatively low levels of those heavy metals.
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In general, if you are following the Ideal Protein protocol strictly and with its products this is of little concern and, Ideal Protein products have been reformulated and passed FDA so, probably not an issue but, it has been looked into by some on the board.

Also, if you are using the Ideal Protein protocol with ALTERNATE products as many people on this board are doing, it would be advisable to understand the chemistry of the products you are choosing and limit the use of ones, such as EAS, that may have higher levels of these chemicals.

DEFINITELY don't drink 3 a day and remember that the cadmium doesn't easily leave the system so use anything that has it sparingly.
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I now have an absolutely wonderful IP alternative: Bodytech Pro-Pudding at Vitamin Shoppe. I bought dutch chocolate and vanilla creme. They come in individual packets just like our IP puddings. They are delicious! They mix well in the IP shaker with water and they are wonderful in a blender with ice and water. I think I am in alternative heaven! Oh, did I mention they cost about a third of the IP price? They do.

I am feeling the burn of that last 40 pounds!
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So, I'm thinking of doing some purchasing from Lindora....any absolute favs? I have compared with IP products.....so I am staying on track fat/carb/calorie wise....but what about flavors?!?!
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I now have an absolutely wonderful IP alternative: Bodytech Pro-Pudding at Vitamin Shoppe. I bought dutch chocolate and vanilla creme. They come in individual packets just like our IP puddings. They are delicious! They mix well in the IP shaker with water and they are wonderful in a blender with ice and water. I think I am in alternative heaven! Oh, did I mention they cost about a third of the IP price? They do.

I am feeling the burn of that last 40 pounds!
Thanks for the tip! I just bought some online...it's a little higher in calories, but I agree, if it tastes good, nice alternative.
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So, I'm thinking of doing some purchasing from Lindora....any absolute favs? I have compared with IP products.....so I am staying on track fat/carb/calorie wise....but what about flavors?!?!
Berry Creme and Strawberry Creme smoothies are my favorites! I think BevS used them and I remember getting the tip from her...she was right. Also, from New Lifestyle, I nearly live on the Chocolate RTD's!

I know some people use them exclusively without a problem, but if you have a problem with higher carb drinks slowing down weightloss, make sure you insert them into the food rotation carefully.
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I know that some people have IP omelet packets. How would this translate for the alternate plan? and do you do this in place of one of your alternate protein snacks?
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