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Old 01-11-2015, 12:09 AM   #1
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I am only 16 lbs from my goal of 240. But my stomach is way bigger than I thought it would be at 256. 16 lbs less it's still going to be big. Last time I weighed 240 was in 2000 and I thought I looked better, so yesterday I dug up a bunch of old photos and my pot belly was indeed a lot bigger than I remember. 240 is too much, even at my height and build.

It's also for health. I had a blood pressure of 180/110 at 294 lbs and had to go on BP meds, I did not tolerate the preferred BP meds so I went on a beta blocker which the doctor says are weak, they only got my BP to 140/90. When I went to the doctor in November I was 263 and my BP was 120/80. But, this is still on meds and I want to get off them eventually. I don't think 240 will be low enough to allow me to do that.

I am tempted to change my goal to 225, which I think is a good weight for me. What would you do?
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Old 01-11-2015, 02:36 AM   #2
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What is the highest weight in your healthy BMI range? That's what I would shoot for. But please note, you are doing a great job!!! Getting to 240 is a big milestone and I hope you reward yourself when the time comes!
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:45 PM   #3
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check out page 30 of this pamphlet. It emphasizes that losing a small amount of weight really improves your health, even if you're still heavier than you'd like.

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/files/docs/...rt/aim_hwt.pdf

There are some folks that believe in losing a chunk of weight, then maintaining that loss for a few months, and then losing another chunk of weight, then maintaining, and so on.

This strategy has always made sense to me, especially for folks who have a lot to lose.

it's up to you - ya gotta choose what'll work for YOU. and if it's not working, then you can change it!
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Old 01-11-2015, 09:34 PM   #4
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Right now my goal is to get to 160. I haven't been in the 100's since middle school so I have no clue whether I'll be happy with it or not. So in my mind I have the possible addition of losing 10-30 more pounds. If you feel you'd like to lose more to be happier/healthier then go for it! It's totally up to you.
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Old 01-12-2015, 03:44 AM   #5
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The highest healthy BMI (25) for me is 205 lbs. I don't have any dreams of hitting that. I don't need to be that thin, all I know is I need to be somewhat thinner than I am.

I read that PDF and it makes sense, setting modest goals that you can meet can help you to not get discouraged. I think I will keep it at 240 so I have a goal that I might meet this year. Then after that I can change it to 225 if I'm still feeling the need to lose more.
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Old 01-20-2015, 06:50 AM   #6
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It is a common mistake we make: we underestimate how much fat/weight we have to lose to become lean (however eac of us defines this). It's why following numbers (and giving ourselves deadlines to do it) usually results in disappointment and frustration.

My advice would be for you to focus more on the process and executing your nutrition and training plans consistently (without concrete deadlines) and do that until you are happy with how you look. Just take your time. You have a lot of it.

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The highest healthy BMI (25) for me is 205 lbs. I don't have any dreams of hitting that. I don't need to be that thin, all I know is I need to be somewhat thinner than I am.
Why couldn't you get to 205? And why wouldn't you want to get into the healthy range? Forget about being thin. Why not focus on (slowly) getting to 205 pounds for the sake of long-term health? I am sure you can do it. But again, don't set yourself too strict deadlines. Take a year. Losing 50 pounds in a year (less than a pound a week) is easily doable if you believe you can do it.
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Old 01-20-2015, 06:19 PM   #7
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You said that you were worried about your stomach in particular,
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But my stomach is way bigger than I thought it would be at 256. 16 lbs less it's still going to be big. Last time I weighed 240 was in 2000 and I thought I looked better, so yesterday I dug up a bunch of old photos and my pot belly was indeed a lot bigger than I remember. 240 is too much, even at my height and build.
and I found that for me, my stomach always looked huge, but it was because of loose skin. you've lost a significant amount of weight, and your belly may look larger due to this, i know this was my experience, and i spent years trying to lose ten more pounds, and eventually got skin removal surgery, and realized that there really hadn't been anything there to lose.
So while unscientific, I would wait until you get to 240 and re-asses. I always ask myself, can I move around well enough to do everything i want at this weight? If its not holding be back physically, sometimes its not worth stressing over.
The second question i would ask myself is what level can i maintain at? If you starve to get to a lower weight, but cant maintain that eating long term, its often better to stay with a higher, but comfortable weight.
Most importantly, keep exercising everyday, regular exercise is one of the best things for BP.
Congratulations on taking charge of your health, and on your success so far. Whether you end at 240, or 225 you did it, and that's what matters.
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:07 AM   #8
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Well, if you're still not happy when you reach your goal weight, reevaluate. You could always ramp up your exercise, see a personal trainer, and get "lean" but not necessarily for weight loss, and instead to gain muscle mass.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:18 AM   #9
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Well, if you're still not happy when you reach your goal weight, reevaluate. You could always ramp up your exercise, see a personal trainer, and get "lean" but not necessarily for weight loss, and instead to gain muscle mass.
I agree with this. Keep your goal weight for now and re-assess when you get there. I also agree that once you reach goal weight may be a good time to take a break from fat loss and focus on other forms of fitness, may be for a few months. If anything, it's helpful mentally and physically to take a break from calorie restriction before you go on to lose more weight, and it will give you time to adjust to your new body. It would also be a good time to go back to the doctor and see how you are doing health-wise.

Great job on your weight loss so far
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Old 01-23-2015, 06:10 AM   #10
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205 seemed like an impossible goal, I don't know if I can sustain something that low. Maybe I should not think this way, but it seemed out of reach. Maybe it will seem more attainable when I am closer to it. For now still 240 is the goal, maybe adjusting to 225 when I get there, from there I don't know.

The last time I was 205 as an adult was the early 90s. I remember feeling really, really thin, but from prior evidence in this thread, I know that my memory may be unreliable. I would like to find a picture of me back then, unfortunately I don't seem to have any, so I probably need to hit up some relatives.
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:55 AM   #11
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I know this is going to be a different take on weight goals but here it is: don't have one.

Say what? Here is what I have learned from me and my wife's success: have goals to eat as nutrient dense, low processed food, low toxic food, highest quality diet you possibly can.

Once you do this your body will get to its ideal weight or close to it as a side effect.

Yep. Once you eat nutrient dense food, lots of natural fats for me, no industrial vegetable oils, and I personally skip all grains but you can see if that is critical for you or not, the weight will happen.

When I was 290ish in May 2013 honestly I just wanted to get below 250. 220 was something I would have been astounded out. Didn't even dream of 200 really. 165 is mind-blowing for me.

But once I personally didn't have carbs, because my family is insulin resistant carbs from anything but non-starchy vegetables pretty much sends me and my body into constant hunger and constant food storage as fat, the magic happened.

And once I lost my fear of fat, especially saturated natural fat, more magic happened. There have been two meta-studies one in 2010 with 350,000 people one in 2014 with more than 500,000 people no linkage between saturated fat and heart disease.

In fact Switzerland and France the two countries with the highest saturated fat consumption in Europe have the lowest rates of heart disease in Europe. In fact the association, and it is just an association is negative. More saturated fat the lower the heart disease.

So I had change goals not weight goals. I am going to give up bread this week. I am going to give up pasta this month. I am going to give up corn chips and tortillas this week. I am going to eat more good quality grass fed butter, organic coconut oil this month.

Then the weight loss was just an awesome side effect. But the health improvements were amazing. I am normal BMI because my body wants to be there on the food I now give it.

It starts with food. Food choices, food quality really are everything. The key to hunger, weight loss, health.
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