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Old 08-31-2011, 08:32 AM   #16
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It's not so much about targeting obesity with some conjured cure ie alkaline foods. It's about eating the closest to nature possible. And in nature, foods are made for our bodies, and they HAPPEN to be alkaline.

Eating alkaline foods WILL definitely improve one's health.




When ever considering new ideas, it's important to look at past discretions and the source of your information. An example of this would be how sick some foods make us, yet they're recommended by doctors.


Unless someone is a nutritionist, a doctor hardly focuses on nutrition as a cure for anything. Western medicine is based around the idea that germs from the outside make us sick, rather than realize that disease starts within. One must have a breeding ground for most diseases...



Incidentally, this breeding ground happens to be acidic. When you look fact by fact, it can blur the whole picture. Think about what FAT is.




However, it will continued to be debated. I say, there's conflicting opinions- rely on your own experience. All the answers reside in the conclusion.
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I tend to look to places like the NIH, Mayo Clinic, Journal of the American Dietetic Association, etc for my information on nutrition and diet. You can find a variety of journal articles at the NIH site from various research including research into what you might call alternative medicine.

If you have any research that backs up the claim that 'alkaline' foods improve health, then I'd like to see it. All I've seen are claims from people who are trying to shill a book, products or even just make themselves look like an expert. Even an athlete who I admire very much once said something about alkaline foods but I figure he is an athlete and I can forgive him for spreading something someone else told him. On the other hand if someone claimed to be a doctor and didn't have research to back it up and then proclaimed alkaline foods, I'd hold them up to a higher standard. They should know better because as far as I've seen, there is no research that would back that up.

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Unless someone is a nutritionist, a doctor hardly focuses on nutrition as a cure for anything. Western medicine is based around the idea that germs from the outside make us sick, rather than realize that disease starts within. One must have a breeding ground for most diseases...
And one thing I'd say is this is due to the medical model, right or wrong. Medicine is about fixing the immediate problem, not looking for the source of the problem. Osteopathic medical doctors are slightly different but I've never had any personal experience with them. Nurse Practitioners are taught under the nursing model which is a more holistic treatment of patients. That is why you see more of them in places like community health and a generally increased number in family care. One reason I generally choose to see a nurse practitioner for my general care and go to specialists when something is beyond that. Dietitians (not nutritionist which isn't a protected label) have extensive education and again are someone who would be helpful for help eating a healthful diet and have a greater understanding of diet and disease. They are all health care professionals though and part of western health care. A medical doctor is just a small part of total health care.
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I also wanted to add that I do believe foods can be healthful or harmful and there is definitely science to back that up. Suzanne posted about a website by a doctor that works for HSUS. He has a website that goes over a lot of information about nutrition based on the current research.

Http://www.nutritionfacts.org
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:25 PM   #19
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I have used this in the past. I added a tablespoon to an 8 oz glass of water 2x a day. For me, it acts as an appetite suppressant and there were no side effects. I changed from a vinegar with mother in it (Braggs) to a generic version and both worked the same.

I doubt this amount is enough to cause any harm and it really does seem to help me.
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The body's overall ph does not change, however ph in the stomach varies, so both arguments are in part, true.
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I tried it for a month or so. It boosted my energy and made me virtually loose my appetite. (Which was nice because then I could decide when I wanted to eat and what I wanted to eat) It worked pretty well. I drank one tablespoon with water and honey every morning. I lost weight and my skin got super clear. I stopped doing it because the taste just got to me. But it definitely worked.
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I take 2 apple cider vinegar pills with 2 meals a day. I didn't begin taking it to speed up weight loss, I had read the benefits it could provide with regards to bloating. I have noticed a change and will continue to take it.
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