3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community  

Go Back   3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community > Support Forum > General chatter

General chatter Because life isn't just about dieting. Play games, jokes, or share what's new in your life!

Bank of Mom and Dad

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-05-2012, 02:49 AM   #1
ADL
Senior Member
 
ADL's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Teaneck, NJ
Posts: 116

S/C/G: 175/169/140

Height: 5"7

Default Bank of Mom and Dad

Hey guys. So I am only 23 but have been married for a little over 2 years. The job market has been tough so my husband and I are being completely supported by my family. While my parents aren't complaining I do feel very guilty for not being able to find any job that pays more than a waitress (I have a History BA). My question is, am I the only married person who at this age is completely dependent on their relatives? I'm asking because I am being incredably hard on myself for not being able to find a job and feeling incredably guilty for accepting their hard earned money. It's not like I am going nowhere though I just got into a very good graduate school. But in my frame of mind what should be a happy occation (getting into grad school) seems like just another giant bill. Help! What I really need is some perspective on my situation.
__________________
Be not afraid of growing slowly; be afraid only of standing still - Chinese Proverb
ADL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 07:59 AM   #2
No more Buddha belly!
 
BerkshireGrl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Western Massachusetts
Posts: 948

S/C/G: 275/see sig/140

Height: 5'8"

Default

As your signature says, "Be not afraid of growing slowly; be afraid only of standing still - Chinese Proverb" Times are tough, but it sounds like you are making moves to get yourselves up and out. What are you going to grad school for and where? Are you moving out to do so? What does your husband do and what are his plans? The "giant bill" of grad school will hopefully help you better your economics... Did you get any aid? Could you later on in your program?

You're not alone though. I was not married but I moved back in with my parents for 2 years when I was 28 and had just moved back to my home state. I got a job that was low paying ($9/hour) but gradually increased over the years to a decent salary ($16/hour). Without my parents' help, living on $9/hour would have been very tough where I live... so sometimes we depend on the generosity of our folks

GOOD LUCK!
__________________
3/29/15: Medifasting away...

What is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life? ~Mary Oliver
BerkshireGrl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 08:50 AM   #3
Force of Nature
 
Rainbowgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Kamloops, B.C., Canada
Posts: 416

S/C/G: 269/*see ticker*/170

Height: 5'7

Default

I'm not married, but I definitely feel your pain at the moment. I quit my job in February to move home (we were getting outsourced eventually anyway) and to go back to school. My plans were to work for the outsourcing company that I had worked for before - but it's been a month now and I'm still not working. They've installed everything, but it's getting the training session that seems to be the hard part. No one will respond to my e-mails or my voice messages and I'm just about out of all the money I received when I quit my job.

The thought of having to get my 60-year-old father, who already works more than he should, to pay for my bills this month eats me up. It's for that reason I'm scouring for any job I'm qualified for (which is, unfortunately, a very limited pool) in hopes of getting SOMETHING to tide me over until the idiots at this company decide to grace me with a job. I also found out that they stuck me on the wrong hospital account, so it'll likely be another month before they transfer me to the right one (the one I requested; the one I worked at for 6 years).

My advice to you: Parents are supposed to be there for their kids, no matter what. So long as you're not knowingly and purposely taking advantage of the situation, you have absolutely nothing to feel guilty for. You are trying to get your life in a forward motion; you aren't sitting at home refusing to find work or refusing to advance anywhere but from the couch to the fridge. I'm sure your parents realize this and I'm sure they are supportive (obviously, as you're there!).

I know it's hard not to feel like you're taking advantage or you're being a burden, but have faith that you are heading in the right direction and your parents are there to help you on that journey.
__________________
Rainbowgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 08:54 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Kentucky, but from FL
Posts: 51

S/C/G: 128lbs/123.2/103

Height: 5' 1"

Default

The important thing is that you're trying to move foward and progress. You're doing this by going to grad school. Parents are there to help you when you need it because they care.

One university instructor likes to repeat this:" You may think you raise kids until ages 18 or 21 and then they are financially independent, but you're really going to be taking care of them until they're 40 or 50."

In other words, you're not the only one who is going to need a bit of help from family from time to time. Don't worry too much about it - focus that energy on networking so that you can get a nice job when you graduate.
__________________

  • Below 23 BMI: 4/1/2012
  • Under 120s:
  • Below 110s!:
  • Goal 103-105:

One crazy face for every pound lost:
Moonsai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 09:01 AM   #5
PCOS/IR/Hypothyroid
 
astrophe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,806

Height: 5'8"

Default

I do not know.

My parents paid my college tuition and all my bills when I first went to college at 18. For me it was like a slow tapering off as I assumed more of my own bills one at a time. Mom would ask me what she was sending me a check for this time and I'd tell her what I'd cover.

I'm 36 now so I don't remember what order it all went in. But I'm sure college tuition was last to go because it was the most expensive. Things like my groceries and rent and clothes went first because those were easier. I remember when I told her not to bother with a check and just focus on my younger sister and she asked if I was sure and I said yes, thanks.

I know that was a while ago and economy today is that much harder -- but why ask strangers? Talk to your DH and your parents about all this, expectations, paying back, etc.

It's not great shame to get help at times.

A.
__________________
Started Oct 2014:

Last edited by astrophe : 04-05-2012 at 09:02 AM.
astrophe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 09:17 AM   #6
On a Mission
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,202

S/C/G: 246/193/169

Height: 5'9"

Default

Well my question is are you currently working? There's nothing wrong with waiting tables for a while to bring in some money, even if it's not a hefty salary, so long as you are putting money into keeping up your life. People naturally earn less while in school unless they already have a decent paying full-time job. Some people still work their pre-grad jobs in tandem with their post-grad careers to get those college bills paid off. Just asking b/c you said you feel bad but you didn't say what job or if you were working to scrape by. If you don't have any job, get something, even a coffee house gig. If you have a job and are just making it, your parents likely understand and don't begrudge you help. Just never take their help for granted or treat them like they owe it to you. Things turn around if you keep at it, sometimes you just have growing pains.
__________________



Calorie counting gave me a method to fix the madness.

A high protein, moderate carb balance gives me control over cravings.

Last edited by 4star : 04-05-2012 at 09:22 AM.
4star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 09:26 AM   #7
Just Me
 
nelie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 15,318

S/C/G: 364/202/182

Height: 5'6"

Default

My advice is try to find a workable plan to become independent. I agree with no shame in waiting tables. My mom worked 2 jobs for many years, one of them was waiting tables.

When I went to college, I became independent, which was rough because I had to budget my expenses, figure out my financial aid, etc. At the age of 23, I graduated college and moved out on my own. The area I worked at was very expensive and I found myself going into debt so I moved in with my parents and commuted 2 hours/day. I paid them a couple hundred dollars month and bought groceries. I did that for 2 years while I worked a plan to move out on my own to a less expensive area.
__________________
You can't out-exercise poor eating habits.
nelie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 09:57 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 288

S/C/G: 225/ticker/158

Height: 5ft 7in

Default

When you say you are being "completely supported" by your family it sounds to me as if you and your husband are not bringing anything to the table at all. If that is indeed the case, then you should feel guilty. There's nothing wrong with needing help sometimes and that's what parents are for. However, I believe that adults should put forth a maximum amount of effort to help themselves as well. For the time being that may mean waiting tables, cutting grass, getting a paper route, whatever. You may not bring home enough to make ends meet but it will at least show that you are trying and you won't have to depend totally on someone else.
__________________
Progress:

Last edited by joyc21 : 04-05-2012 at 09:58 AM.
joyc21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 10:30 AM   #9
ddc
getting back to 140
 
ddc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,156

S/C/G: 155/154.2/140

Height: 5'7"

Default

Do your parents have the money to give to you or are they taking out loans?

Too many people these days are getting out of college with huge student loan debt for jobs that don't make much money or that there's not much job market for.

Last edited by ddc : 04-05-2012 at 10:31 AM.
ddc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 10:50 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 226

S/C/G: 289/274/147

Height: 5'7"

Default

If your parents are ok with it, then who am I to disagree? Perhaps the two of you being in their home isn't costing them much extra or maybe they just like having you there. I have to wonder what it costs your relationship. How does your husband feel about living with your family? Does he work?

For me, that would not have been ok. I think if you're old enough to get married, you are old enough to support yourself. I worked retail right out of college because I had bills to pay. My husband and I lived in a studio. We didn't even have a tv. That was ok. I didn't expect to have my parent's lifestyle that they had spent years building, I was only in my early 20s. You're not supposed to start out with everything.

I would only have gone to graduate school on my own loans, I do not think parents are responsible for education past an undergrad degree. Even then, if it comes down to their own retirement or paying for a kid's college, I think the kid should take the hit and get loans. Parents are running out of time at that age to prepare for retirement, the kid has a lot more time to pay off the loans.

I especially would not put myself in more debt for graduate school if I wasn't VASTLY improving my job potential. There's this belief that all education is worthy but all education is EXPENSIVE. It might seem like a good idea now, but a fluff degree that won't improve your job potential won't seem like such a good idea when you're still paying off the loans in 15 years.

Not trying to be critical of your choices or make you feel bad, but I say all this as someone looking back. I could not have lived with my husband AND my family. Being married, to me, was about us starting our OWN family (the two of us) unit. Also, I know so so many people my age (nearly 40) who are still living close to the bone because when they couldn't get their dream job and refused to work retail, they just kept getting more education. Now they're teachers or working in retail anyway and they are smothering under the weight of all those student loans. You really have to think long term - is this a stepping stone to a job or career or is this more education that won't lead to anything? A few years from now, you want to have better prospects for being in your own place. You don't want to finish up and realize you're still going to be waiting tables or working retail, only now with more education (and possibly loans).
__________________
98DaysOfSummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 10:52 AM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Kentucky, but from FL
Posts: 51

S/C/G: 128lbs/123.2/103

Height: 5' 1"

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ddc View Post
Too many people these days are getting out of college with huge student loan debt for jobs that don't make much money or that there's not much job market for.
This is why I went into science. I knew if I didn't get into medical school, I could go to one of the two biologically-related graduate schools and get a PhD. (With one, I would get paid for my work. But with 23 seats open, its hard to get in.)

And I could still get a job with a BS, if I was willing to go with lower pay. (Bachelor's in science.)
__________________

  • Below 23 BMI: 4/1/2012
  • Under 120s:
  • Below 110s!:
  • Goal 103-105:

One crazy face for every pound lost:
Moonsai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 10:52 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 226

S/C/G: 289/274/147

Height: 5'7"

Default

I just wanted to add that I feel very strong about this. There are so many things I would do differently if only I had known then, you know? It's a shame that we have to make so many big life decisions that can REALLY impact our quality of life for years down the line - without the benefit of experience or foresight.

Unless you are unusually driven, it is so easy to drift through your early 20s just doing what works or what you want to do right now and not looking ahead. Your 30s are coming faster than you think.
__________________
98DaysOfSummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 02:22 PM   #13
Vex
There is no try.
 
Vex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 1,260

S/C/G: 281/T/140

Height: 5'6"

Default re:

What major in grad school? If it's history just like your undergrad you're going to be in a similar position when you're done, except with more debt. I'm not saying don't do it, just be aware of the potential for more hardship when that's over.

There are jobs out there for a MA in History, such as community college teaching, but they are few and far between.

I've read so many stories in the news about people just like you. So many recent graduates can't find any jobs so they're all going to grad school.

Last edited by Vex : 04-05-2012 at 02:23 PM.
Vex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 02:42 PM   #14
Leveling Up
 
sontaikle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 3,655

S/C/G: 200+/115/115

Height: 5'3"

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vex View Post
What major in grad school? If it's history just like your undergrad you're going to be in a similar position when you're done, except with more debt. I'm not saying don't do it, just be aware of the potential for more hardship when that's over.

There are jobs out there for a MA in History, such as community college teaching, but they are few and far between.

I've read so many stories in the news about people just like you. So many recent graduates can't find any jobs so they're all going to grad school.
Oh yes it's very dependent on what MA you're going for. I have a BA in History, but my MA is in Childhood Education and Special Education. I have a job. It's not the best or the highest paying, but I do have a job in my field.

I felt like I was just getting a giant pile of debt when I was going through grad school last year, but I'm glad I did it. I'm in the field I'm supposed to be in and I'm doing what I love

Also I didn't really have all that much debt since I didn't have any undergrad loans and I was only in grad school for a year. My parents were and still are awesome enough to let me stay here until I get enough money to move out and live comfortably. Although, they would much rather prefer I stay here until I got married, LOL.
sontaikle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 02:44 PM   #15
Hi From Canada, eh?
 
Trazey34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Canada, eh?
Posts: 2,360

S/C/G: check the ticker :)

Height: 5'8

Default

As long as you ARE working, waitressing or washing dishes doesn't matter, money is money. There's no way I could take money from my parents if I wasn't trying 100% to bring cash in, diggin a ditch if I had to. I went to University full time, worked at a retirement home in the morning and again at night!
__________________

Started: 323
Now: 171 - nope, 165 now!
NOPE -- 162 now! Holy crap i've lost a PERSON!
Goal: 160


"People often say that motivation doesn't last. Well, neither does bathing - that's why we recommend it daily." - Zig Ziglar
Trazey34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Posts by members, moderators and admins are not considered medical advice
and no guarantee is made against accuracy.


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
300+ And Ready to Try Again Weekly Thread #1132 LindseyLouWho 300+ Club 117 11-19-2007 11:34 AM
Home of the Loozing Floozies.....(#17) Sherry Support Groups 43 12-08-2004 06:44 PM
Over 50 and Getting Healthy #10 Sheila53 Support Groups 101 01-31-2004 10:28 AM
300+ And Ready To Try Again.... #104 2cute2Bfat Weight Loss Support 28 11-17-2001 12:19 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:58 AM.






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2