3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community  

Go Back   3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community > Food > Food Talk And Fabulous Finds

Food Talk And Fabulous Finds Recipes, Healthy Cooking, and General Food Topics

Dieting and artifical sweetners

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-12-2012, 09:09 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 76

S/C/G: 250/168/128

Height: 5'6"

Default Dieting and artifical sweetners

Ive read a bunch of stuff about artificial sweeteners and there impact on diet. One point of view says that artificial sweetners have no impact on you and your diet and this is why diabetics can use them without problems. The other viewpoint is that your body reacts to artificial sweetners the same way as sugar so you shouldnt have alot of them especially in diet sodas.
Anyone have some answers out there? I cant find much online thats scientific just lots of diet plan advise.
Thanks!
misspixie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 09:41 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
domesticbliss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 120

S/C/G: 221/186/160

Height: 5'7''

Default

I don't have a bunch of data for you...
I have read some information that backs up both of those point of views, it is confusing!
The reason anti-artifical sweetener info says that your body reacts the same way to sugar when you have them is because Splenda/Sweet n low/ Equal, etc. taste sweet, and when your taste buds sense that they tell your brain "hey, something sweet is coming your way, get ready!" so then your body reacts by preparing to create insulin, but then it senses that there is no actual sugar coming in, so your body readjusts its insulin response.
They're safe for diabetics because your blood sugar doesn't actually go up when you ingest them, they just don't cause the same insulin spike, even if they make your brain think it's getting sugar.

My opinion- I'd rather trick my brain into thinking I'm eating something sweet rather than deal with damage that sugar can cause.

Diet drinks are talked about as bad because the studies they do are on people who drink them all day long, constantly, so yeah they're ingesting way more artificial sweeteners than they should be

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/a...t-201207165030
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/art...teners/MY00073
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/fe...weeteners-safe
__________________
Onderland - MET Jan 16, 2013

199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 (a fit 160)

When you feel like quitting, think about why you started.

Last edited by domesticbliss : 12-12-2012 at 09:44 PM.
domesticbliss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 09:52 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
elvislover324's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,689

S/C/G: 328/171.6/155

Height: 5ft6in

Default

I don't have any scientific data but thought I'd tell you that I have been using Sweet & Low since I started my lifestyle change and it hasn't inhibited my weight loss at all.

As far as them being safe which is talked about a lot, I figured I was doing way more harm to my body with all of the high calorie, high fat, chemicals, etc. (white sugar, white flour, saturated fat, high fructose corn syrup, etc.) I was eating before so I basically traded risk with myself. And I have far less Sweet & Low vs. all the junk I used to eat.
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
elvislover324 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 09:57 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
domesticbliss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 120

S/C/G: 221/186/160

Height: 5'7''

Default

uh huh, what elvislover said.
__________________
Onderland - MET Jan 16, 2013

199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 (a fit 160)

When you feel like quitting, think about why you started.
domesticbliss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 10:09 PM   #5
Leveling Up
 
sontaikle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 3,658

S/C/G: 200+/115/115

Height: 5'3"

Default

All I know is that I drank diet soda while fat, I drank diet soda while losing weight, and I drink diet soda while maintaining. I can't stand regular soda, which is why I drank/drink diet.

I probably should stop, but it hasn't effected my weight loss/maintenance, so I never really had the desire to.
sontaikle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 10:56 PM   #6
Strong is the new Pretty!
 
FitGirlyGirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Jacksonville, Arkansas
Posts: 2,239

S/C/G: 245/ticker/1??

Height: 5'2"

Default

I use splenda, I drink crystal light, and I occasionally have a diet soda. I have no ill effects from them. I personally think it depends on each person. Some can tolerate it and some can't. Some can only tolerate certain ones. If you'd like to use artificial sweetener then experiment for yourself, that's the only way to get yourself a good answer.

As for health risks that we wouldn't be able to easily see, I'm with elvislover on that one. I'll take the small risk compared to what I was doing to myself before. My doctors agree with that too.
__________________
Roxy

I quit smoking on Oct. 20, 2008 Now I right and more.



FitGirlyGirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 01:06 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 241

S/C/G: 210/175/137

Height: 5'7"

Default

I'm at school to become a Registered Dietitian and we had a whole lecture on artificial sweeteners. I can tell you that according to the FDA and Health Canada artificial sweeteners will not inhibit your weight loss and are safe to use within reasonable limits (they leave a substantial "buffer zone" between what they suggest you limit your consumption to and how much of it you would need to consume to actually cause toxicity).

The argument that artificial sweeteners cause a response to your body the same as sugar is false. That's why diabetics can use them safely. What some people suggest it does do is stimulates your body in preparation for sugar (releasing enzymes that your body would need to digest sugar) and then not giving it any, which makes you crave sugar more. I think it's more about being aware of your own body and how you react to artificial sweeteners.

Personally, I like to consume as little processed foods as possible, so artificial sweeteners are out for me. It was hard to quit them but I did and that, coupled with a few other changes, is how I started losing weight. Again, it's personal, but I feel better when I'm not consuming them and am very glad I made the switch.
__________________
Mini Goal #1: 169lbs
Mini Goal #2: 164lbs
Mini Goal #3: 159lbs
Mini Goal #4: 154lbs (LOWEST WEIGHT AS AN ADULT)
Mini Goal #5: 149lbs
Mini Goal #6: 144lbs
Mini Goal $7: 139lbs
Mini Goal #8 (Maybe): 134lbs
gymrat05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 01:25 AM   #8
Embracing the suck
 
JohnP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California - East Bay
Posts: 2,969

S/C/G: 300/234/abs

Height: 6'9"

Default

Do you hear about people falling into insulin comas all the time because they drank too much diet soda on an empty stomach?

Me neither.

If artificial sweeters did what some people say than people would be dropping like flies.

The reasearch actually shows us that some people have a tiny insulin response to the sweetness of artificial sweetners. This is irrelevant.

Disclaimer - I have no formal training but I can read.

As for whether or not artificial sweetners are good for you or not - that is a whole other debate which I'm not going to bother with because there are a whole lot of other things we're exposed to on a daily basis that are probably far worse. Such as - cars.
__________________
"Getting solid information is easier than ever. Getting misinformation is even easier." - Kaplods

Maintaining for two years and I eat whatever I want - just not however much I want. Details here.
JohnP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 01:46 AM   #9
Happy Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Casper, Wyoming, USA
Posts: 790

Default

I am not an expert, but I am a diabetic.

I lost 65 lbs. and am working at maintaining that weight loss.

I use artificial sweeteners, but sparingly.

I avoid sugar and some other foods that I need to avoid as a diabetic.

This works for me.

__________________
JoJoJo
196.5/130/135

Breast Cancer Survivor
86 years old
JoJoJo2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 02:40 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 126

S/C/G: S290/C ticker/G 190

Height: 5'11"

Default

idk about the science of it, but I know that there were a couple times when I stopped drinking diet pop (and didn't start drinking full sugar pop) and made no other apparent changes and I dropped 20 lbs in a few months both times. Maybe it's the sweetener, maybe it's the carbonation, maybe it's some psychological thing or something else entirely. But for whatever reason lots of diet pop doesn't help me. I drink maybe a couple or 3 cans a week now, but stick with water for the most part.
__________________
scoutycat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 07:47 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Misti in Seattle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Seattle WA
Posts: 8,561

Height: 5'8.5"

Default

I won't touch the stuff. Giving them up is one of the smartest things I ever did. And John.. people ARE dropping like flies from those and all the other junk and chemicals the food supply is loaded with.
__________________



First major goal met 12/7/12. Next major goal ONEderland!
Misti in Seattle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 08:03 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
flippychick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northeast
Posts: 244

S/C/G: 150/150/135

Height: 5'7"

Default

I was a firm believer in calories in/calories out for a long time so I used artificial sweeteners. Not any more. I will use sweet-n-low because saccharin seems to react differently than aspartame and Sucralose. My dad is a diabetic and they don't seem to effect his weight at all, but for me, I don't seem to be able to lose weight if I drink diet soda. It makes me crave sweets. And fat.
__________________


flippychick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 09:46 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
KatMarie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 520

S/C/G: 325/120-125/maintaining

Height: 5'6.5

Default

I love sweet stuff. Couldn't have lost the weight I did without artificial sweeteners. I would have caved and ate high calorie sweets.
__________________


Link to before and after pics
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/goal...unds-gone.html
KatMarie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 12:33 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
kaplods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Wausau, WI
Posts: 13,191

S/C/G: SW:394/see ticker

Height: 5'6"

Default

There is some evidence (not a lot, yet) that some artificial sweeteners (at present, I believe only aspartame has been tested, so other sweeteners may not have the same effect) can increase hunger, as rats given aspartame sweetened food ate more than rats given sugar sweetened food, but here's the catch...

Humans aren't rats. We can use calorie-counters and food journals to limit our calorie intake, and we can decide for ourselves whether we're willing to endure a little extra physical hunger in order to satisfy a craving for sweets.

I know for myself (by studying my food journals) that sugar and carbs in general cause much greater hunger/cravings than artificial sweeteners. Sugar free, artificially sweetened foods do make me a little hungrier, but not to the degree that sugar does (and I do wonder whether insulin resistant and diabetic rats would have had more hunger/eaten more with sugar than with the aspartame - from my own reaction I suspect so).

The only way to tell how your body and mind reacts to the artificial sweeteners is to experiment. Try three months with them and three months without, and repeat the experiment a few more times. During these trials keep track of your calorie intake, your weight loss, and your hunger/cravings. It will take you about 2 years to know for sure, but if your experimental trials are much shorter, coincidence could lead you to jump to false conclusions).
__________________




My Etsy shop (currently closed for the summer)

http://www.dreamstormdesigns.etsy.com
etsy link by permission from 3fc! Want to add yours? Ask them!
kaplods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 04:02 PM   #15
Embracing the suck
 
JohnP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California - East Bay
Posts: 2,969

S/C/G: 300/234/abs

Height: 6'9"

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Misti in Seattle View Post
I won't touch the stuff. Giving them up is one of the smartest things I ever did. And John.. people ARE dropping like flies from those and all the other junk and chemicals the food supply is loaded with.
Do you have any evidence to back up this statement?
__________________
"Getting solid information is easier than ever. Getting misinformation is even easier." - Kaplods

Maintaining for two years and I eat whatever I want - just not however much I want. Details here.
JohnP is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Posts by members, moderators and admins are not considered medical advice
and no guarantee is made against accuracy.


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ideal Protein Monthly Chat -February torchlaker Ideal Protein Diet 534 02-12-2010 01:37 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:07 AM.






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2