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FickleHearts 02-14-2013 10:33 AM

Garcinia Cambogia Extract
 
A friend of mine was tooting Dr. Oz's horn this morning about this stuff. I usually don't buy into quick fixes, but this looks like its just a natural plant derivative. She's going to give it a go, but I'm wondering if its safe.

Any one ever try it?

nelie 02-14-2013 10:49 AM

First thing I'd say is if Dr Oz recommends it, be wary of it.

Honestly, a lot of the benefits aren't supported by current studes and the dangers are unknown.

WebMd says the following:
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GARCINIA Side Effects & Safety

Garcinia is POSSIBLY SAFE for most people when used for 12 weeks or less. Long-term safety is unknown. Garcinia can cause nausea, digestive tract discomfort, and headache.
A study using Garcinia Cambrogia (GCE here) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21936892
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RESULTS:
EGML and GCE supplementation failed to promote weight-loss or any clinically significant change in %body fat.
Here is a study of studies where basically they went through all known studies to determine the effectiveness of common dietary supplements.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20847896
Quote:

Abstract

Objective. To review the literature on fat modifying dietary supplements commonly used for weight loss. Methods. Recently published randomized, placebo-controlled trials were identified in PubMed, MEDLINE, International Pharmaceutical Abstracts, Cochrane Database, and Google Scholar using the search terms dietary supplement, herbal, weight loss, obesity, and individual supplement names. Discussion. Data for conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), Garcinia cambogia, chitosan, pyruvate, Irvingia gabonensis, and chia seed for weight loss were identified. CLA, chitosan, pyruvate, and Irvingia gabonensis appeared to be effective in weight loss via fat modifying mechanisms. However, the data on the use of these products is limited. Conclusion. Many obese people use dietary supplements for weight loss. To date, there is little clinical evidence to support their use. More data is necessary to determine the efficacy and safety of these supplements. Healthcare providers should assist patients in weighing the risks and benefits of dietary supplement use for weight loss.

bargoo 02-14-2013 11:19 AM

Dr Oz has a new diet product every day or at least every week.

April Snow 02-14-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelie (Post 4633095)
First thing I'd say is if Dr Oz recommends it, be wary of it.

LOL but yes.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...t_science.html

FickleHearts 02-14-2013 11:42 AM

Yeah, this is the same girl that believed Dr. Oz when he said sucking on raspberry candy will make you lose a lb a day. :dizzy:

I don't watch him, but she swears by his advice, most of which is comical.

Your google skills are awesome LOL.

I'm going to show her this and maybe she'll listen to studies instead of my skepticism. She'll try it anyways likely, but hey, her money to waste. I'm just concerned it may end up harming her like all the other diet fad pills out there eventually do.

The candy thing, OMG. I was like, are you even listening to what you are saying???

nelie 06-02-2013 06:14 PM

Well there is no conclusive evidence in humans and Dr Oz generally isn't one to be trusted.

WebMD is generally a good place to read about supplements:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...tName=GARCINIA

My guess is whatever pill you are taking may be mixed with either laxatives, diuretics or maybe both. Or perhaps just a general change of diet.

nelie 06-03-2013 11:10 AM

Ubee,

I will say that I used to like Dr. Oz and he seemed level headed but then things changed. Having a show where you feel you need to provide new products and solutions on a regular basis changed him. Now he seems to back every product with some slight promise. It has nothing to do with big pharma. It has to do with the age old scientific method that works if applied correctly and he ignores that. I've looked into the studies he references and there are often issues or they are preliminary at best.

PubMed is a good place to look into studies and get some of the real information as long as you understand that a single study doesn't prove anything as it should be measurable and repeatable.

Ubee 06-03-2013 11:39 AM

Hi Nelie,

Thanks for giving me a new site to cross reference other findings with.

I must admit I have only watched Dr. Oz about 5 times.

I do think that nature provides us with answers to our health problems. I do use big $ pharmacy however, I don't always trust them. I also struggle with the lack of funding to study natural remedies. There is no money to be made so why would companies want people to know about natural remedies.

As you can tell I am very frustrated by this.

Thanks, Ubee

nelie 06-03-2013 01:00 PM

Ubee - I think nature provides us many answers but I think the best answer we've ever been given for weight loss is move more, eat less.

And companies do invest in natural remedies when they do work such as a big company (can't remember who now) bought out the rights to exclusively use hoodia in their products because it was something that worked in it's natural leafy state. The problem is that they couldn't replicate the appetite suppressant effects out of its natural state despite trying for years. That didn't stop other diet companies from claiming they contained hoodia or marketing it. Green tea was also something to shown to have a slight effect in tea form but never in pill form but doesn't stop diet pill companies from marketing it based on studies of green tea you drink. If you think big pharma is bad, you should see the diet industry, it is the worst which is why I'd be more wary of any diet pills than any big pharma medicine.

MAK247 06-03-2013 10:17 PM

Most likely you lost water weight. I was 210 when I started eating healthy but I don't even count the first 10 lbs, I lost those literally within a day or two, it was just water weight.

I think it would be awesome if they made a magic pill that made fat go away, and it is very tempting to try the things they come up with...I had a friend talk me into some that were 'all natural' blah blah blah, she lost about 80 lbs on them and they are just great. It wasn't until AFTER I was taking them that I did research and I found out they were essentially meth...No one ever puts that on the label, do they?

ringmaster 06-25-2013 01:37 AM

I don't think this is a new thing?... I swear I seen garcinia products around for years now, I think even 10 years ago the home shopping network channel had a product with it in it for weight loss...I guess they are running out of ideas so use old ones and make them look new. green coffee, red raspberry, etc aren't working anymore.

Cammie8 06-26-2013 11:02 AM

@FickleHearts - Did your friend ever try Garcinia Cambogia?

ringmaster 07-18-2013 08:24 AM

Now I know why garcinia sounded so familiar!!... it also goes by the name citrimax which has been around forever... think it's been around as long as CLA. funny they are trying to market it as something new and just discovered.

little lamb 08-06-2013 05:56 PM

I have it. I don't take it religiously, just on days I'm feeling extra hungry or stressed out, or know I'll be tempted to over-eat. It's an appetite suppressant. I definitely wouldn't rely upon it as a sole method of dieting, but it does help to curb hunger.

happybug 09-13-2013 03:24 AM

My friend tried it. She has tried just about every diet pill or diet known to man, so when I told her about this she rushed to the health food shop and bought it. The one she took contained no potassium, which you apparently need for it to be absorbed properly. She is a moderately big woman, with a good appetite and she took twice the dosage and said it was staving off her hunger (could have been wishful thinking too) but if she lost any weight it was nothing major. My other friend took it after hearing about friend 1's experience. Friend 2 said it was not even worth spending money on it and she stopped taking it. I was afraid to take it after reading some of the online reviews and the side effects experienced, nausea, cramps, possible liver damage. There is no quick weight loss fix, unfortunately.


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