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EagleRiverDee, some say that it depends on what you eat with your carbs. Carbs eaten alone, like fruit, might raise blood sugar more than carbs eaten with a protein or fat, such as nuts. So maybe because you included the nuts with your apple and pear it kept your blood sugar lower. I've heard that pears don't raise blood sugar as much as some other fruits. I don't eat a lot of lentils or other beans, but they are said to be very good for diabetics because of the fiber. That just shows that it's best to test and see how your body reacts individually if the lentils spiked your blood sugar. If you like them, ,maybe you would be able to eat a smaller portion with some other foods. I made some chili using canned navy beans recently and got a blood sugar spike, but I think the beans were in some type of cajun sauce and that sauce could have contained a lot of sugar. I also rarely eat baked beans for that same reason, but when I do I rinse the sauce off them. That way I eliminate most of the sugar, but the flavor is baked into the beans and is still there. There are always some tricks we can you when we want to include our favorite foods.
Carol SueGlad you found your orthotics and it has helped. DS kept telling me about a lotion called 2 Old Goats she orders from Amazon. They swear by it for joint and muscle pain etc. I finally ordered a bottle of it and will be ordering more. I put it on my knees, back, heels and even on my hips since I've been so busy this week. I even put it on my neck one night to ease a neck pain. It has some essential oils and the mixture actually works. I am amazed at how it has eased a lot of my pain. She took some out to the nursing home today for Daddy to use on his hands.
EagleRiverDee I have been reading a magazine that describes a "middle of the road" form of Paleo. I was surprised that it says don't eat beans or lentils or peas. However, I never really had a problem eating them unless I ate them with rice. So I think this goes back to YMMV thing. My S.C. doctor was shocked at some of the foods I could not eat because it raised my bs. I have learned through the years that just because some other diabetic can eat something doesn't mean that I can and vice versa. You are doing a great job of controlling your bs so just keep doing what you are doing. Testing and learning how foods affected my bs was what I learned to do years ago.
I remember Daddy telling me after he married my step-mom that her SIL was diabetic. He used his meter to test every food he ate. He learned he could have an Egg McMuffin as long as he took the top biscuit off. He ate peanuts all the time because it kept his blood sugar down. So I did what he did for a while, but I haven't done that in years. I still check it 2 or 3 times a day, but have strayed from the foods that I knew worked for me. What my step-BIL did was formed his meal plans around those foods he learned didn't raise his bs. Good plan and I should wise up and do the same.
I was going to start Paleo Monday because of so much going on. This book says to do a 85:15 ratio. 85% OP and 15% of foods you really like that isn't OP. So I am easing into it. I like the fruit so I bought fruit that I like mostly berries although I do have 1/2 banana in the morning. I had my eggs and bacon. I am not 100% Paleo because I use yogurt. So I'm in the process of tweaking it to fit my lifestyle.
I have been so hungry for liver. So today I finally cooked a whole package and I ate most of it. I couldn't believe I ate all that but it tasted so good. I had it with a salad and a lot of veggies. I also bought some string cheese, no nitrate no nitrites or preservatives extremely thin sandwich meat for wraps and also some nuts for snacks. I haven't clocked it in MFP yet, but I think I did good today because I didn't have but a very small portion of starches. I hopefully plan to ease the starchy carbs out of my plan by next week.
We had a consultation with a therapist, dietician, social worker and activity director today for and with Daddy. We learned that all the nurses etc love Daddy and love taking care of him. The social worker said that they love Daddy and if he has to have long term care or assisted living whatever that they would love to have him live there. Some of the things we had questions about were mixes of not being told how to get them done and the other little issues will be handled.
In fact, I told them I thought he was going to have the swallow test again to get off the thickener. They already called DS this evening to say they are waiting to hear from the people to call them with an appointment. We also let them know the things that we are very happy with about them and their services.
DGS is in loads of pain, but I'm not surprised with all they did to him in the procedure. I sure hope he feels better soon.
PattyGirl, thank you for the wise words! I know I will get better at this as I go along and learn which foods affect me and how. I am not up to speed on the family, but sure hope things go well for you all.
EagleRiverDee Thanks. We have had a lot going on with my Daddy the past year, but it is really wild when other people in the family have problems too. That is just part of life.
Went to see Daddy and even he can see some improvement in himself. He's excited that he can make a pretty good fist with his left hand and a better fist with the right hand. He said he was able to stand in the bathroom this morning. So although still kind of slow, it is nice for him to be able to see some improvement himself. He said he woke up once during the night and could feel his right hand better and was excited about it. This morning when he woke up he tried to do something with that hand and couldn't so he wondered if maybe he just dreamed that he could. His shoulders were hurting but he believes that is from the therapy and said he hopes that is a good thing.
Although I will be going out to see him tomorrow afternoon and have a birthday party Sunday, I am going to really work at getting myself OP this weekend. I want to start using my recumbent bike again to help strengthening my knees. We aren't supposed to get any rain, but my knee seems to say we are so we will see.
Going to cook a steaks for our main meal and then relax the rest of the day. Then when I go on the electric company's dime at 8, I have to catch up on my wash.
fatmad How are you feeling?
Carol Sue I hope your foot is feeling better as the weather improves this weekend for y'all. Haven't seen you today so I figure y'all have gone to the casino.
momtopands How did your appointment with the dietitian go?
Donna I've had you on my mind a lot lately praying things are going well for you. Losing your home to a fire is devastating. You and your family are in my prayers.
Y'all have a good day.
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I thought I posted today but I guess I didn't, or it went into cyberland!! LOL We are not going anywhere this weekend. Just staying home, getting some cleaning and laundry done.
My foot hurt this morning and I had cramps in my calf. I took Motrin and it feels better, plus I'm taking the Tumeric again. It seems that once I take the Motrin it's OK until the next morning. I am able to walk on it with little pain, but I'm trying to keep it elevated and stay off it.
My weight was back up to 199 this morning. I hope it's just water weight and it comes right back off. I hate to think I did all that for nothing. I ate a lot of veggies today and drank a lot of water. I don't know what else to do....I'm eating healthy, I know that.
I'm glad to hear that your Dad is noticing some improvement. It will take time.
Carol Sue Yes, I told him that it could take up to 4 months. Therapist said each patient is different so can't say how long it actually will take. They are working him hard. The girl set the stationary bike a 4 and he said it was hard but he made himself do 20 minutes on it. She is going to give him therapy Saturday too because he didn't get therapy Monday because of doctor's appointment.
I'm sorry about the pizza, but I didn't do very good tonight either. I'm not doing well at all. Not sure why I can't get my act together. I do good during the day and blow it at night. I think I'm just too tired and grab whatever.
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Don't be sorry about the pizza, Trish. I'm not. It was good. It was very thin crust, no meat, and it was a small pizza so the pieces were small. I was still only around 1100 calories for the day because the only other thing I ate all day was vegetables. I'm actually down a pound today. LOL Now, that does not mean I'm going to start eating pizza all the time. No food is 100% off plan for me, but there are some things I will only eat occasionally. DH usually orders meat on his pizza and I don't like meat on it.
My foot still hurts. I can go to bed feeling fine and half way through the night it starts to hurt. I take Motrin when I get up and then it feels better all day. I am assuming it will go away eventually like it did with the other foot. I am trying to rest it and keep it elevated even when it feels better. There are a lot of people who have much worse things than that. I don't want to be feeling sorry for myself.
Carol Sue I'm glad the pizza wasn't a problem. Remember the book we have from Reader's Digest said that eating vegetables seemed to off set the carby foods. I'm wondering if maybe that is the key. So few people eat or like veggies. I'm sorry about your foot. I've been getting leg cramps at night and I think mine is due to not drinking enough liquids during the day. When I'm away from home so much, I don't drink a lot of anything so I don't have to run to potty all the time.
I started back to low carb this morning. I don't know if I'm following CAD/CALP or what. I say CALP because, I may try to start using the 1/3 ratio plate of starch, protein and veggie/fruit most days. I'm thinking that I could follow paleo and just have my fruit at the RM and low carb for other meals and or snacks. Nuts are not on CAD/CALP for snacks so I could even add a few nuts with the salad or fruit. I know this will work if I can just tweak it to work for me.
I had boiled 2 eggs, 2 sl bacon and part an avocado which was about to go bad. I took the good part and threw out the part I wasn't sure about. I added what I call a finger salad of radish, celery and tomato to eat with it to make it a CAD CM.
I talked to Daddy this morning and he said we didn't have to come see him everyday, but I told him that DS and I are going to alternate. DH and I are going Tues, Thurs and Sat and of course, I will go on Friday mornings when I leave the beauty shop. Like I told Daddy we use the days we go to see him as our days to go do our shopping. With gasoline being what it is, you have to plan your trips wisely especially since we live out so far from everything. Any way I should be able to settle into a good routine with my eating and exercise and get my weight and blood sugar under control.
Talked to DGS and he is feeling a little better, but far from feeling good. I'm not sure he can work Monday. We will see.
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Trish, a woman on the LC forum was talking about leg cramps and she said that ACV has helped with that. I asked her to give more info about it. I'm not sure, but she might have been using the pills instead of drinking the vinegar. She also said it lowered her FBG but it didn't seem to help with mine.
What are you doing for Easter? I don't want to have it here but I might have to. My step-son used to have it at his house and his house is a lot bigger than mine. They are in the middle of renovations on the main floor, but his wife said that's not a problem because they usually have it downstairs, but here it is a week away and they haven't said any more about it. I hope they do it. I make some things to take over, but really don't feel up to doing the whole thing, as I don't know if my foot will be feeling better by then. I try not to be on it too much.
We have to get some things from the store and then go somewhere to eat. I want Bob Evans, but I'll have to see what DH wants.
I think I have been successful with the low FODMAP thing. I realized the other day that I am now pretty much pain free. I am a bit closer to being constipated but thats easier on me right now than the runs.
My ultrasound was fine, I am meeting with the doctor in April on a non-urgent basis to discuss the fatty liver and gall stones. My symptoms have nothing to do with those issues, have never had a "gall bladder attack". I know the symptoms well, having correctly diagnosed many clients, (risks go up with pregnancy and in the weeks shortly after having a baby).
My colonoscopy is shortly after that.
I have been adding foods back into my diet. So far yellow peas (as in pea soup) and peas and snow peas have all been fine in reasonable serving sizes.
I have not been having any artificial sweeteners other than a bit of splenda, since I know I have been sensitive to sugar alcohols in the past. This includes avoiding breath mints and chewing gum.
Apparently cauliflower breaks down into mannitol (a sugar alcohol) very quickly. This is a biggie, since many who do low carb use it to replace potatoes.
I am not sure if I told you all that I had a gluten reaction.
I think this may have started at the same time that I started metformin, and I just put the symptoms down to that medication. The loose bowels are a known side effect. I didn't have the pain until recently though. Because its not celiac disease, I can have minimal exposure, or small accidental exposures, sometimes without severe effects, so its easy to be confused by this.
I am doing much better overall. But weight is up after eating higher carb, even with calorie counting.
So I feel like I am starting from scratch.
Thanks for being here gang.
I start back on call tomorrow night, for a week, so don't worry if I am only here sporadically.
I will continue to read everyones posts, and welcome to our new friends.
fatmad Glad you checked in and that the low FODMAP has worked successfully for you and you are feeling better. So glad the ultrasound turned out fine too. I do hope the colonoscopy goes well too. That is interesting about the cauliflower. I know I can't eat sugar alcohols either so I'm not sure how mannitol affects me as I do eat cauliflower from time to time, but I don't eat a lot of it. I do notice I have some problems when I eat breakfast but not every time. I will have to start watching to see if it is when I eat cauliflower. Thanks for sharing that.
Carol Sue I take ACV pills but I wasn't taking it faithfully this past week so maybe I need to start taking it again. In fact, this morning when I got ready to take my pills, I realized that I haven't even been taking the berberine either.
We didn't get home and eat until after 5 this evening and by the time we got dinner ready, I was really dragging and feeling weird so I checked my bs and it was 109. So I can see that when I get back OP that everything bs and weight will get better.
Many of the higher FODMAP foods only affect us if we eat a lot of it. And sometimes we don't worry about it. For instance, having grown up in the Niagara area, where soft fruits and orchards are a mainstay, I would often help pick the fruit at my Aunt and Uncle's farm, and have a "feed" of peaches or plums. Often this would result in the runs, but I knew why it happened, and didn't happen if I ate a normal serving, so I never worried about it.
Same is true for many vegetables, we can handle them in normal servings. But if we are substituting cauliflower for potatoes, we may wind up having a very large serving, and that would make a big difference. I am going to try a small serving today and see how that goes.
I made a small cheesecake last night with stevia and splenda, (it doesn't need much sweetener tho) but forgot to take a lactaid pill with my serving, and can feel it a little this morning. So I will have to take care to always have those pills with me and be mindful of dairy foods. I had been good about it up until now.
Trish, I hope the good care and treatment will help your Daddy, and it sounds like his doctor won't allow him to be on his own now. But I am sure he will do well in assisted living, and will adapt to having his "own" place in the facility and a bit of "Extra" help. Then you and your sister can just be visitors again. And arrange a schedule where you each see him maybe twice a week. Lots of visiting, but not caregiving, unless you do something like doing his laundry or something.
Carol, are you also being sure to take a b-complex, or extra folate and B12? in addition to the tumeric etc.? remember that metformin uses those vitamins up in our system and we definitely need to supplement those particular vitamins.
My sister and I have decided to take a little trip together at the end of May. My Dad loved to travel, and would have wanted us to do that, so we decided to use the life insurance money to go away together, so we will have fun getting ready for that for the next while.
Have a lovely Sunday, and sunny but cold here. (hovering around the freezing mark)
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Mad, I have not been taking any vitamins except for the D3, because I have never been tested for deficiency, but as long as they are water soluable I shouldn't have a problem taking them. I used to take a multi vitamin/mineral until I heard so much that they are not necessary if you eat a healthy balanced diet. It has been years. A while back I started taking sublingual B12 but stopped that. I will take this into consideration. Thank you.
Trish, that BS of 109 was great. And indication that you are eating right.
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I looked back in the old posts to see how long I had the foot pain in the left foot. It started around Oct 1 and continued off and on until the end of November. Yikes! I've only been having the pain in the right foot for about 5-6 days. I sure hope it doesn't last as long as the other time. Last night it was bothering me in bed so I got up and took a Motrin. That didn't help, so a couple hours later I got up and took another. The pain just kept getting worse. I was upset, thinking that the Motrin is no longer helping. When I finally got up and came into the kitchen I saw my bottle of Motrin sitting on the counter. I went into the bathroom to see what it had been that I took, and it was Benadryl. They are both a reddish color, and they are generic so the bottles look similar, plus I only use a small light in the bathroom at night so it doesn't wake me up too much. Taking the wrong medicine is really not good, but Benadryl is not too harmful. Many people use it to help with sleep. But I used a marker and wrote Motrin really big on the bottle so I won't make that mistake again.
Yesterday we ate at Bob Evans. I had a piece of chicken breast, with carrots and green beans for my sides, but I ate 3 rolls. I came home thinking I would have to take more Glimiperide but BS was only 160. I am wondering if my new eating habits have made me become less insulin resistant, since I also didn't spike with the pizza. I'm not going to press my luck and start eating more carbs, but it was a interesting development. This is the first time in a while that we ate dinner out, and I felt a little yucky afterwards. My body is becoming more accustomed to home cooked food.
Momtopands, I was wondering if you have any interesting information to give us from the diabetes nutritionist you went to. I am really curious as to what they are telling diabetics these days. So much information has changed, it's hard to keep up with it. We can all get educated from what you've learned.
I am not up to speed on the family, but sure hope things go well for you all.
