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Yesterday eating with some of the guidelines of this new book went very well. I was totally amazed at how well it went and the results of dropping a few lbs and my fbs back down to 134 this morning. This very doable for me and I haven't even gotten to the actual eating plan yet. I decided to ride the recumbent bike after lunch and was amazed at how easy it was to do 3 miles which takes me about 27 minutes. I haven't looked at the exercise he recommends as of yet. I was able to clock almost an hour of exercise yesterday on MFP. I did decide to take 500 mg of Metformin with a late snack last night. I am very pleased with this way of eating.

Another amazing thing about eating this way is that the rash is gone. I honestly believe that eating too much protein was feeding the rash. I'm still eating protein, but not quite as much as I did on HFLC. As long as this works, I will continue to eat this way because I can live with it.
Trish, is this the brown fat/yellow fat book plan yoy are referring to? Glad it is going well!!
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Trish, is this the brown fat/yellow fat book plan yoy are referring to? Glad it is going well!!
Yes it is.
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DH has been trying to install the new modem sent to us by the cable company. When he hooks it up, we cannot get a dial tone on our phones and cannot log on to the internet. When he talks to tech support at the cable company they want him to log on to the internet so they can see what's going on on their end, but he tells them he cannot log in to the internet. So he gives up and puts the old modem back on. Our old modem works fine, although it is slower, but they keep saying our old modem is old and we have to update. If they send someone out to check it out, and they find something we have done wrong, we will have to pay $50 per hour. When we first signed up for cable internet we paid them to install it all rather than trying to do it ourselves. I can't imagine what they would find that would be our fault because when DH puts the old modem back on, everything works fine. This is all aggravating. So when DH is playing around with the new modem I don't have internet access. I try to get all my posting in while he has the old modem installed.

Good job on the new diet Trish. They have that book at the library but I didn't get it because the eating 6 small meals a day wouldn't fit into my lifestyle, and also, he recommends weight training and no cardio. I don't want to give up my cardio.

Hope everyone is doing well.

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The new plan is a "cycling" alternating Carb days with Protein days and 1 Choice day. I'm glad he didn't call it a cheat day. However, he says when you get used to eating healthy that you eventually won't want to do the Choice days.

Carol Sue From what I understood from the book, you can continue the cardio etc exercises if you want, but should use the core exercises he recommends. The idea of core exercises interested me because the therapist who taught DH to do the back and neck exercises that he does not do, but I do each morning before I get out of bed for my back told us that if you don't get your core working right that nothing else works right. I haven't gotten far enough in the book to learn what those exercises are. I've done 2 days of 27 minutes on my recumbent bike... takes me 27 minutes to do 3 miles on it.

I also thought of you wanting to try that cycle diet you read about. I think it would work because he said that you are tricking your body so that it learns that food is going to be readily available. I too will have a problem with the 6 small meals because I've been so brain washed into thinking 3 meals only. I do know according to him and other diets that promote 6 meals a day do it because it keeps the bs level.

I thought I would share really quick the difference in Carb/Protein days.

Protein Days eat protein, low-fat dairy products, non-starchy vegetables and low carb fruits.

Carb Days eat grains, starchy vegetables, high carb fruits and a small amount of protein. Simple carbs like white flour and desserts should be limited.

Choice Day, eat what you want but you should eat a normal amount of calories because a Choice Day is not an excuse to binge on candy, cake etc.
A Choice Day is always followed by a Protein Day.

I'm now reading the lists of foods which are just healthy proteins, veggies and fruits etc and then those Carb days should really supposed to be Complex Carbs like quinoa, oatmeal and legumes.

I haven't been on this 100% yet, but will be starting it maybe today As I've low carbed pretty much today. DH decided he wanted to go with me to the store this afternoon so I'm not sure where we are going to eat. I know I want to work it out to where my Choice Day will be Thanksgiving Day. So right now I've just been counting calories and may just do that until after Thanksgiving. We'll see.

Carol Sue I sure hope you get your modem fixed. I know it has to be frustrating for you and especially for your DH. You know my DH #2 had a saying "NEW does not spell GOOD". Maybe it is the new modem.

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Trish...

Does it explain why you would follow a Choice Day with a Carb Day? Seems to me that the majority of foods most people would have on a choice day would be higher in carbs (pasta, bread, potato, dessert, etc.) Seems like it would make more sense to follow that with a Protein day!

Just curious if it gives more info?

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Does it explain why you would follow a Choice Day with a Carb Day? Seems to me that the majority of foods most people would have on a choice day would be higher in carbs (pasta, bread, potato, dessert, etc.) Seems like it would make more sense to follow that with a Protein day!

Just curious if it gives more info?
Thanks for bringing that to my attention Laurie. I didn't mean to type Carb day and I did correct it thanks to you. You are absolutely right. I should have said you always follow a Choice Day with a Protein Day. Thanks again.
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Thanks for bringing that to my attention Laurie. I didn't mean to type Carb day and I did correct it thanks to you. You are absolutely right. I should have said you always follow a Choice Day with a Protein Day. Thanks again.
Ah, great... THAT makes sense! But you never know when there might be some reason behind something that you didn't think of! Sounds interesting. Keep us posted.
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DH finally made an appointment for a tech to come out and work on the new and improved modem. Otherwise, we're just spinning our wheels. I am assuming that he had it connected correctly. He never follows directions that come with anything and won't listen to me. I really don't know what he could have done wrong as he connects the old one up easily. The appointment is for Monday.

While he was on the phone with the woman, she gave us a different cable plan that includes more channels for $13 less a month. The catch was we had to take a contract for 2 years. We have had this cable for so long and our original contract ran out years ago. I don't mind a new contract because we can never switch to dish because of the hill behind out house. So it's cable or nothing.

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, that is so similar to the diet in Break the Fat Loss Code, except they don't just do alternate days. Each week the days come in a different order. I could probably do this if I could tweak it to fit my lifestyle. The way it is now, on some days I eat some carbs and on other days I don't, but it's not always planned that way. For example, I don't make separate dinners for DH and I. Mostly I prepare a meal that includes carbs for him and I just omit the carbs for me and eat more vegetables. Then there are days that I make lasagne. On those days I will also prepare a salad or some type of vegetable so I can eat a portion of lasagne and include a big salad or vegetables with it. I try to keep as many days low carb as I can, and then work around the other days. And the 6 smalls meals just won't work for me. When I cook dinner, I am not going to eat a small portion.

As far as the exercise is concerned, I am going by reviews I read online about the book. The main review I read was by some doctor, and he is the one who said that it was recommended that you don't do cardio. I tried to find that review again but can't. It might not be true. People can put anything on the internet, but it doesn't make it true. Since they have the book at the library, maybe I will get it when I take my other books back, then I can read for myself what it actually says. The carb cycling can probably be done whatever way you want, as long as you are not having 2 carb days in a row. That seems to be the common denominator between the meal plans. I don't think I will get it before Thanksgiving though because I have too much to do and if I get engrossed in the book things won't be ready when my company comes. LOL Don't want that!!

For the past few years I have done very well on Thanksgiving. I fill up on turkey and vegetables and allow myself one carb selection. Since I can have potatoes any time, I usually choose stuffing for my carb treat for the day since we rarely have stuffing. I don't really care for sweets so no dessert like pumpkin pie or pumpkin cheesecake. I only like pumpkin straight out of the can. The same with sweet potatoes. I like them baked with just a bit of butter and cinnamon, but don't like them candied with brown sugar and cinnamon and marshmallows. Yuk! So Thanksgiving is not a problem for me.
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Carol Sue I got a chuckle when you said DH doesn't read instructions and never listens to you. I really think it is a "man" thing. LOL!!! My Daddy who so strict about so many things "doesn't read instructions" and neither does DH. I will say DH #2 would read the instructions if he had a problem with something, but things usually came so easy for him that he didn't need them. I never understood why a man wouldn't read instructions, but I think it is their way of rebelling. DH DD and I were amazed when her daddy got a GPS because we would laugh at him listening to that woman telling him where to go. However, there are times when he will say "I don't want to go that way" and she has to re-calculate his route. Men are so funny about some things, but it drives us nuts.

I am going to look at the exercise chapter in the book today. But I'm pretty sure that I read in the beginning of the book somewhere that he doesn't think the cardio etc helps with weight loss or getting rid of the yellow fat so he said you could do those if you really wanted to, but that it is important also to do the ones he says will cause the bad fat to be replaced with good fat. I would love for you to read the book because you retain things better than I do and you see things that I miss.

You know, I always do good during holidays with my eating. I don't know why unless I know that I don't want to gain a lot of weight and I've actually lost weight during Thanksgiving and Christmas rather than gain.

I've decided if I start today with Protein day that I can alternate so that my Choice day will be Thanksgiving day. I find it interesting that if I do this right that my Choice day will land on a Carb day which is smart to do because that way it is just another Carb day.

I think it will be easier for me if I just think of the Protein days as Lowcarb day and the Carb day as a Higher carb day. I get the feeling from the book that Choice days are not really necessary so I think I'll just make those an occasional day when I need it rather than a once a week thing. I don't want to get into a routine where I have to have it. I also think I can make this work with Intuitive eating. I'm not sure I want to do 6 meals a day. I can easily do 4 or 5 meals, but not going to lock myself into the 6. I understand the concept, but I do not want to get back to eating when I am NOT hungry.

So I Carol Sue I do believe that we can work this out in a way that will work for us.

I enjoyed having half a grapefruit with my eggs, sausage and cheese this morning. I plan to have oatmeal with banana on with 1 egg for breakfast for my Carb day.

Got to run. Beauty appt at 10 and running by the store to get a few things he suggests for snacks.
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Trish, so many times DH will start putting things together and I will grab the instructions and read them to him anyway. When we put my elliptical together it took hours. It just came as a bunch of parts in a box. You had to be sure you used the right screw, because if you used the wrong ones then you didn't have the right ones for the next step. Sometimes he will start putting something together and then say "Look to see what the directions say." If we have to pay this $50 because he didn't follow directions I will take it out of his allowance. LOL We have only used our GPS a few times when we were going somewhere that we had no idea how to get there. It did a good job of getting us to a funeral. If we turn it on when we're going to the casino, it directs us in a completely different direction. It is probably choosing a shorter route, but DH goes the way we already know. He does not like to drive on back roads or through the city, but prefers to go on the major highways. It might be farther in distance, but he says he can make it up in time because he can go faster. In 37 years that I've known him we have only stopped to ask for directions once. LOL

Now I am going to make a pumpkin roll for DH. He will have it gone in a couple days. He doesn't like me to make it for Thanksgiving because then he has to share it. He wants it all to himself.

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Carol Sue Your DH sounds like a character. LOL I have one of those too. Gotta love 'em any way.

Well I read the chapter on how to do this way of eating for ages over 50. You are supposed to do 2 Carb days and 4 Protein days and 1 Choice day. Then the 6 meals for each day or kind of complicated and probably not the way I would do them. The way I will do it this week is today was a Protein Day, tomorrow will be a Carb Day and then I think I will do the alternate days as I originally planned so that Thanksgiving day as a Choice day.
And I will start Friday with a low carb day and then I'll adapt this to my own lifestyle. I remember my second hubby's DM worked for a diet doctor in California who had his patients eat lowcarb 6 days and then they had one day of eating whatever they wanted. So I believe that I can adapt this way of eating to fit my lifestyle so that I have maybe 1 or 2 carb days with the other days being lowcarb/protein days. If done right, I don't think I would need a choice or cheat day.

I do like some of the core exercises. I already do 2 of them every morning before I get out of bed for my back, but I do 1 of them a little different from the way he shows it. I will change one of them, but not both. I think for my age that I need to keep it the way it is. And I will continue my cardio exercises as well as add some of the core ones he has in the book, but only the ones I'm able to do. He does recommend eating carbs before exercising and after which I saw a discrepancy with this one because he says not to eat many simple carbs and then he says in another place that you could eat simple carbs for energy before you exercise. At any rate, he says to eat something before and after exercising. Also his schedule is for exercising in the morning. I have to do my exercise in the afternoon. However, he does say that we don't have to exercise everyday. Still have a whole chapter on exercise to read. So maybe he will explain a little better in that chapter.
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Lying in bed this morning I realized this doesn't have to be complicated. I can combine the info from The Brown Fat book with info from the Lowcarb for Dummies book. I can have 3 carb days and 4 lowcarb days. Very simple. The difference is that the dummies book said you need a minimum of 3 to 5 carby foods a day. So I figure that I will have a minimum of 3 starchy carbs 3 days a week and on special occasions or once a week, I will have 5. All my other days will be lowcarb days.

Have a super Sunday everyone and those north of us in the freezing weather stay warm.
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Good morning all,

I'm sorry that I haven't posted as often as I had hoped to. I've had a few busy days.

Friday, we went to our Granddaughter's school for their little Thanksgiving celebration. We go to these things a lot of times because her mom is not able to go because of work. There are other grandparents there too, so I guess quite a lot of the moms aren't able to come. Then I went with my son to an appointment. He often times asks me to ride along with him. Gives us a chance to visit and it helps him stay awake when he is tired (a night shift worker).

Yesterday we did the groceries and some other errands. We try to do as much as we can in one outing instead of making lot of little trips out. It makes for a long day.

My eye is hurting this morning. It hurt some yesterday. I worry that because I have diddled around so long ~ mostly not being able to have some self control of my eating ~ that it is finally catching up with me and affecting yet another part of my body.

Gotta get some stuff done today. The rest of next week, we have Maddie (our 7 year old granddaughter) ~ we are her day care when there is no school and every afternoon after school. She keeps us busy.

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Gayle, I like to get all my errands done in one trip, also. DH doesn't do that unless I reinforce that. He will say he's going to go get gas in the car. I tell him, "You are going out later to play the lottery so why not just get the gas then?" Or, "We are going out to eat for dinner, you can get the gas then." He will go up to get gas. Then later go out to play the lottery. Then later we will go out to eat, or maybe go to the grocery store. With the price of gas, that's wasteful. I think maybe he just wants to get away from me once in a while. LOL I go to the farthest point, then stop at all the other places on the way back. He hates to do that.

Do you know that your eye hurting is because of your eating, or are you just assuming that. I have a hole in the macula of my left eye, but it doesn't hurt. Sometimes things will get a little blurry when my sugar is high. How is your blood pressure? That can effect they eyes, too. I hope you are fine.

Trish, I think this brown fat issues is the same as everything else.....everyone is different. I understand that the older you get the fewer carbs you should have. I know if I had a little more discipline I could do the every other day carbs, as long as I avoided simple carbs. But I just take each day as it comes, eating low carb as much as I can but not obsessing over it. I don't think even a Choice day would be high carb for me as that is just not my nature, plus they are not taking into consideration that diabetics should not be having a high carb day at all.

It's pretty warm here today, Trish. It's 61. We went to the store this morning and when we came out it was too warm to have our jackets on so we both took them off. Everyone around here is taking advantage of the warm weather to put up their Christmas decorations. Too early for me. I wait until after Thanksgiving, at least.

My turkeys are in the refrigerator defrosting. I have everything bought except the rolls. I also have to go to the liquor store and get a bottle of white wine. My SIL is bringing broccoli casserole and sweet potato casserole. She is a big help. My step daughter and daughter in law are bringing dessert.
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The cable guy came and went. He had trouble setting up the new modem and had to get on his computer and also call someone else, so it wasn't our fault and we won't have to pay. Yay!
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