thank you so much! that link had great info
so I think for me I'd need to tweak it a bit.. like stick with the daily carbs but not measure or count my protein grams.. actually I'm looking for a low carb plan that I count carbs on only but alcohol and such are not forbidden.. so basically as long as the item fits within my carb alotment it's allowed.. do you personally think protein power would fit this idea or something else?? I saw your success with atkins so I know you have some real ground for opinion here and I respect that, thanks again!