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Old 07-18-2009, 01:30 PM   #16
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I'm confused. Does "Bo" count calories or not?
Hey Bo-why don't you post something that isn't a cut and paste from an article you found on these here "internets"?
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:56 PM   #17
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I'm confused. Does "Bo" count calories or not?

Hey Bo-why don't you post something that isn't a cut and paste from an article you found on these here "internets"?

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Hi A,

Sorry for the cut and paste, but felt my lifestyle was probably unfamiliar to most and thought it might be wise to first explain what it’s all about.

Calorie Restriction with Optimal Nutrition (CRON) is simply a calorie restricted lifestyle with the concept of "adequate nutrition" thrown into the mix. We simply feel that it isn’t just reducing calories that’s important, it's reducing calories while optimizing intake of essential nutrients to meet and exceed requirements.

There are some who believe that calorie restriction slows the rate of aging and extends maximum lifespan. This is as of yet unproven in humans and it may be decades before we can be certain that it works in this regard.

But regardless of whether or not caloric restriction increases the lifespan, it clearly markedly improves current health. The point is that CRON hugely improves cardiovascular and glucose management parameters. Many believe that those health benefits alone should pay its freight.

CRON is a lifestyle and there are as many different ways to follow it as there are people doing it. There are those who choose extreme versions of the lifestyle who measure and calculate every tiny morsel of food. Then there are those on the other end of the spectrum who simply skip a snack and take a multi vitamin daily. Myself, I’m somewhere in the middle. The only tool I use daily is my bathroom scale.

Regarding the calorie restriction part, we simply limit calories to maintain our chosen weight. For myself, I consume two meals a day and rarely have snacks other than an occasional protein shake. Breakfast by far is the largest meal of the day and usually consists of eggs, mushrooms, sweet potatoes and very small portions of corned beef hash and brown rice. My dinner is usually a bowl of soup or broiled fish/chicken with broccoli. The quantities are determined by my morning weight.

I do supplement. With each meal I take a multi-vitamin, resveratrol, Co Q-10, magnesium, vitamin d-3, fish oil, Benefiber and calcium.

All I can say is that it works for me. I’ve never spent the night in a hospital, never had a surgery, take no medications and never get sick. My doctor says that my tests are all normal and that I have the lab results he normally sees in a teenager. I'm 68 years old!

I have been practicing my version of cron for over five years and my wife thinks I’m nuts.

Btw, I’m new here and unsure if the cron lifestyle is of interest to anyone? If not, I’ll move on as I prefer not to annoy anyone.

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Old 07-19-2009, 12:47 PM   #18
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I think the link on his second post says it all...link to a website selling supplements. I pointed this out earlier...meh...heck I've have posts deleted for less

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Scientists attempt to understand the triggers, timing, and molecular basis for aging as they try to stave off humanity's most intractable scourge

What causes aging? Scientists don't know for sure, but there appear to be many contributing factors. It's possible that aging is an unintended side effect of the mechanisms that reduce vulnerability to cancer. Cellular maintenance and repair mechanisms may also gradually break down, permitting damage to build up over time. At the same time, evolution is unlikely to favor the investment of resources in organisms that can no longer reproduce. And natural selection is unable to weed out genes whose deleterious effects don't occur until later in life.

In a sense, aging begins at birth. But it is more commonly associated with the wrinkles; gray hair; and declines in strength, mental sharpness, reproductive ability, wound healing, immunity, and other functions that occur after reaching adulthood. Other conditions that often accompany aging include cancer, dementia, osteoporosis, and arteriosclerosis.

The average life expectancy for humans has increased over the centuries with improvements in sanitation, health care, and food quality and availability. But maximum lifespan hasn't grown much, leading some scientists to speculate that there may be some kind of barrier around the age of 120. Others believe that, with the right technological advances, humans will be able to live much longer than that.

Of course, those additional years would be a burden if many of them were spent in ill health. So delaying aging while maintaining good overall health is the ultimate goal of researchers in this field.

Source: Chemical and Engineering News
Serving the chemical, life sciences, and laboratory worlds.

Sorry, site will not allow me to post link to original article. Please use Google if interested. (Neat photo.)

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Old 07-19-2009, 11:44 PM   #20
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Hey Bo....I don't dispute the findings...I just think I'd rather enjoy myself than live simply to survive a few more years. Eating apple peals instead of apples just ain't no way to live IMHO.


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Old 07-19-2009, 11:51 PM   #21
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Bo, heres some food for thought....If CR is effective at prolonging death by many many years, and you may be right, what are we to do when we have outlived our children and grandchildren.Seriously, I would much rather expire before my precious children then live long enough to bury them all.Yikes!!!!Besides that......What about overpopulation????Can you imagine everyone doubling their lifespan?????HELP!!
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:15 PM   #22
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Hey Bo....I don't dispute the findings...I just think I'd rather enjoy myself than live simply to survive a few more years. Eating apple peels instead of apples just ain't no way to live IMHO.

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First off, please let me say that I’m impressed that you’ve seen and remember the Oprah apple peel video. Wow! (youtube.com/watch?v=cRouwxVxqY8)

Regarding “surviving a few more years”, Cron has never been scientifically proven to extend human lifespan. It has however been proven to extend human healthspan. Many believe that improved health in old age may delay or prevent many age related health concerns.

It’s all about surviving to an advanced age with vigor and functional independence maintained and morbidity and disability compressed into a relatively short period.

Jmho.

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Really?Thats not what was said on Oprah when they had the man in the audience that is following a CR woe and predicted to be the first to live to 150 yo.Did you see Oprah?He is the one eating apple peels!LOL!
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:23 PM   #24
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You might want to do a little more research.All information I accessed on line is very succinct regarding extending lifespan by up to 40%.So...back to burying our children and overpopulation...........
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Bo, here’s some food for thought....If CR is effective at prolonging death by many many years, and you may be right, what are we to do when we have outlived our children and grandchildren. Seriously, I would much rather expire before my precious children then live long enough to bury them all. Yikes!!!! Besides that......What about overpopulation???? Can you imagine everyone doubling their lifespan????? HELP!!
As mentioned prior, CR has never been scientifically proven to extend human lifespan by even one day and certainly not for “many - many” years.

And no, I can’t imagine “everyone doubling their lifespan”. Our lives might be like a TV show that was on the air for too many years, it could become stale and boring?

For myself, CR is all about maintaing good health and vitality for as long as possible and nothing more.

May I quote Miskawayh, an early practitioner of Calorie Restriction? He was a very early philosopher in the Islamic tradition who was into controlling food desire and lived to be 97 years old in the 10th century.

"It is in this light that we should look upon food. We should put it in the same class as the toilet which we are forced to visit in order to excrete what we were so anxious to get. We should not set the two far apart because both of them are necessities. We should have recourse to them only as such and not worry our heads in choosing and enjoying them, nor waste our lives preparing them."

"In the matter of food which keeps the balance of his constitution and his life subsistence, he should only take of it only as much as is necessary for the removal of his imperfection and should not seek the pleasure of food for its own sake but rather for the sake of the subsistence of life, which is prior to pleasure"

Btw, have you noticed that poets of late have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese?

Have a great day.

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Btw, have you noticed that poets of late have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese?
As compared to when?

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Old 07-20-2009, 07:21 PM   #27
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I certainly agree with healthy food choices.Good luck.
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Can you imagine -- you spend your life eating apple peels and beef shavings, only to get hit by a car when you are 65!!! And with your last breath as you lay on the pavement, all you can think is "my GOD I COULD have eaten whatever the heck I WANTED for the last 40 years....Crap..."



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LOL!!!That be my luck....or a bowel obstruction from too much fiber......
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And Eleanor of Aquitaine lived from 1122-1204, making her 82 years old, also an unheard of age. And she restricted NOTHING. In fact, she was known for her excesses with respect to men, armed rebellion, and dietary abandon...

And Britain's oldest man died yesterday at the age of 113. When asked several weeks ago, he attributed his old age to "cigarettes, whiskey, and wild, wild women". http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/ju...lds-oldest-man

Just sayin'!

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