[firefly68]

Has anyone done a comparison? Is it something to do with the amounts and types of vegetables allowed, or something more? I've been hanging out at the Atkins.com forums and there seems to be a huge emphasis on getting exactly 20 net carbs a day, 12-15 of which come from vegetables. Is that something new really or just the same?

[JerseyGyrl]

Originally Posted by firefly68

Has anyone done a comparison? Is it something to do with the amounts and types of vegetables allowed, or something more? I've been hanging out at the Atkins.com forums and there seems to be a huge emphasis on getting exactly 20 net carbs a day, 12-15 of which come from vegetables. Is that something new really or just the same?

The "new" book allows 6 cups of salad greens and 2 cups of cooked veggies. The "new" book says coffee is OK. The "new" book says its ok to deduct sugar alcohols because they don't affect blood sugar (which is not true for everyone). The "new" book also claims bars & shakes are permitted on Induction as long as they aren't more than 3 net carbs (which, HELLO...they are!).
Dr. Atkins plan (2002) says 20 net carbs a day, 12-15 coming from veggies on the acceptable foods list.
Personally, I stick to what Dr. Atkins himself wrote, not anyone else's interpertation of what he wrote

[firefly68]

I just re-started Atkins today, after doing my own thing for a while. I need to get oriented again on the very clean basics. Time to pull out my book!

Okay, my 2002 book says 2-3 cups loosely packed salad vegetables (from the list) plus 1 cup of cooked vegetables (from a second list, that has a few of the same veggies from the first list.) A typical salad for me consists in a cup of lettuce, a few chunks of tomato, some green bell peppers, olives, and olive oil for dressing. Two of those a day don't get anywhere close to 12 NC. And a cup of broccoli cooked has slightly less than 4 NC.

I notice a suggestion to eat half an avocado, and 10 olives. That would bring the count up a bit.