Support Groups - Hot & Healthy Challenge Chick's 12/10/06




Jasmine31
12-09-2006, 10:02 PM
dolly:

My easy dinner would be the chili bean recipe a few pages back. Just substitute turkey instead. We made them yesterday and it tastes great! Tonite is the same so this will be so easy, just warm it up and your done!

Canuk: Hello!

I had a nice surprise when I got up and weighed this morning I was down a total of six pounds since last week, I am really excited.


That is great sweetie!!! WOw! I would be so jazzed!!!!

loveandlaughalways:


mmmm... I LOVE enchiladas!

miafluker:

good morning! i managed to work out yesterday and ate well for breakfast slimfast opt. it was suprising pretty good but then that afternoon i got sick(sore throat,cough,water eyes etc.) so i didnt eat much of anything well today im feeling alittle better i dont think im going to get a workout in this morning but will do it when i get off.

Keep up the great work!!

Hun.e.B:

Did you watch biggest loser last night. My goodness that show motivates me! I wish Bob would come to my house! I love him!

haaha SOunds cool. I don't have tv though!

this entire family needs to start being healthier, not just me! My girls are just as fit as can be, but so was I at that age, I didnt gain weight till my 20s and now look at me! 2 steps away from diabetes and a heart attack. I do NOT want the for them. and my dh...he's getting softer and softer as time goes on.

That is great! Get the family involved!!! :D I make the same food for all of us and my dh goes for walks with me on the weekends and my two middle ones walk with me all the time. It is my eldest one who needs it the most that I have troiuble dragging out of the house!

Jasmine....I hope all is going well with you and you are just cruising along like a champ! I was thinking of you last night I made my enchiladas, I need to do them healthier, but like you said...as long as its moderation!

Thanx for asking hun. I am doing great just been so busy the last few days with store trips and all, yesterday I stayed home and tried to relax, didn't get by here though. :( I will post my menus and exercise and stuff tomorrow, you all will probably be surprised how well I am doing!! Like 1200 cal days! I had that one really high day on tuesday w/ the birthday party but the next morning I kicked my butt and have actually lost 2 pounds since last sunday already! :D I have been too full to eat more than that!! Everything in moderation that is for sure! Good luck with finals and be careful skiiing!

dollypie:

The dogs should definately get ya moving!

The choices for food at the high school were terrible.

That is exactly what I am talking about! The kids eating at school is part of the huge health crisis , I used to work at my kids jr. high for a few months, microwave burritos, chicken nuggets, tater tots, taco nadas, pizza, the list goes on and on!

jcatron243:

I hope the kids get better hun!! :hug:

martiniforme:

Soo...
It turns out that one of you ladies is going to be celebrating a birthday in about 5 days here.
I won't say who, they can tell you themselves
But I did want to say..

Are you talking about me? *blushes*

stopeating:

Good evening everyone! Well I'm catching something, not sure yet what, but it's really deep in my chest and I feel worn out. I went to a specialist today for chronic hives and he thinks there is something wrong with my thyroid. I have to get a chest x-ray and blood test. I just can't be sick right now. I need to attend a party next week, have an interview next Thursday, and have two gatherings at my home a week from tomorrow.

Oh I hope you are okay hun! Keep us informed!!! :hug: Check and make sure it is not bronchitis! Eat some soup!!

Canuk4:

4 pounds? That is awesome!!! :carrot:

Just shows how much you ladies are up on the new products, where most of you find time to find out this information I really don't know, between school and kids, but please keep it up, you had it way before I got it in my mag.

Yeah and I am now already on to trying to do it on my own. I am just so suspicious now of anything artificial and not natural. *sigh*

was only able to get a 1-1/2 miles in last night, my legs and even sides were killing me, sounds like it is doing something. May do some floor exercises and a mile tonight if I can get through it, wish me luck!

Listen to your body and do not push it too much!!

Sorry for going on about this, but my family is in short supply tonight, and I am really scared. My doctor calls me an enigma?

You can tell us all about it. I don't know anything about all that but I can listen and offer you a :hug: We need to be praying they figure out what to do!

miafluker:

hi everyone wanted to say thanks real quick i didnt get my workout in today really was bad at work i got off an 1hr. late and then had to fight traffic home and then my cold is getting worse.

Don't overdo it hun!!

o any of you guys work so much or hard that you feel like you barely get to spend time with your family. I miss my baby and my hubby maybe its just me being mushy but it just seems i dont have time to do anything anymore not to metion anytime for myself.
have a good night guys

I am sorry to hear that hun! Is there anyway you two can afford for you to stay home or even just part time? :(

ennay:

asmine, didnt have time to read everything, but I dont use any artificial sweeteners. Buy plain unsweetened yogurt and add all fruit jam or cinnamon and vanilla extract. cinnamon and van ext. both add sweetness without sugar. Eventually if you add less and less of the jam, your palate will adjust to less sweet. I eat plain unsweetend now straight and prefer it. Its one of the reasons I DONT use artificial crap is if you just reduce your sweet intake, you reduce your taste for sweet. I had a wheat thin the other day and I swear to god it tasted like it was dipped in honey, thats how sensitive I am now to sugar.

I agree with ya on all that. Since I have changed so much and cut out the soda, then only drink diet even once in a while now my craving for sugar has disapated. It has been like this for several months. I was really bad with not being in control of my eating when I was still having potatoes often too. But once I cut them down to once a week and got firm and started counting cals, I rarely ever want something sweet! Usually like once a month I will get a carving for bana cream pie or something so i tell myself once a month we can have cake or pie.

Yogurt, I do love yogurt and am seriously not wanting and fake sugar whatsoever. I did get one yogurt that was comepletely plain and was a bit shocked at first. haha But I am a trooped so I was going to mix it up with some fruit or something but when I went to reach for it the darn thing froze in my fridge!!! None of the other yogurts did! haha

I will try again next week or with the plain kefir~more on that kefir tomorrow. ;)

sugarbaby269:

We missed ya hun! Thanx for the congrats!

We are heading to the coast tomorrow for a fun family weekend at the cabin.

That sounds like fun! Have a great time!!

Made some FF dip to go with the veggies and baked chips for the snacks.
Also I went a month without drinking regular soda! That's quite an accomplishment for me as I used to love Coke.

That is great! I am sure you feel so much better for it!!

Last week I ended up in the hospital with a kidney stone and then some complications. I had gained ten pounds from water retention and about fell off my feet! Anyway, it's all gone and I'm doing good.

I am glad to hear you are getting better! Drink more water! :hug: Come back when ya can!!

ennay:

morning all, I can not believe I am awake. For the last 3 nights ds has been getting me up at 2 to nurse him and tonight he is power snoozing, but I am up (and engorged).

Awww try to get a nap hun!! :hug:

dollypie:

Hello Ladies!

I don't know why I have so much energy today...I think it is because I had a great workout this morning. I am just waiting for it to be 5 o'clock and then I am outta here. Not to busy this Friday...its the end of the semester and campus is slow.

Because you are living healthier. Keep it up!!

Okay I am ducking behind my computer because I am one of those persons that eats the artificial sugar. That's right in alot of stuff too, from my oatmeal to my tea I drink and especially my one a day diet pepsi. It is just my one vice I cannot give up. From your article though Jasmine, I may start cutting back a bit.

Don't duck! I am severely dissappointed about it. Baby steps. :D I just started drinking green tea and am glad to find I can drink it straight! :D

stopeating:

Hi everyone! I went and got blood work and a chest x-ray. I feel lousy and really drained. My dh was mad because I still rode my bike last night but I just don't want to lose my momentum or break a good habit. Anyway I went pretty slow and just half a time so I was happy. Hope all of you feel better soon also.

Drink plenty of fluids and try not to over do it hun.

loveandlaughalways:

I have had a busy week this week. Am still off work due to foot, but am glad to have christmas with the kids.

Yes at least you are home for xmas. Sorry about the foot!

I am now taking 1200 to 1500 mg of calcium a day. It won't rebuild the bone but keep it from getting worse. Only weight baring exercise will rebuild bone. I am trying to do that too. I have to do more research on that as well.

Ask the doc about either manganese or magnesium. Cant remember which but they are supposed to help with bones. ( I think)

Looked at a beautiful house today. I wish I had a picture of it to show you. We have a video but no pictures. Don't know if we can buy it yet, but would be wonderful to have.

Next time bring the cam!!

Jasmine-oh my gosh, I didn't realize there was so many bad things that we are eating in our food. I started knowing about the artificial sweeteners even splenda then too much regular sugar which I just found that the light yogurt, that I loved, had 14gms in it. I knew it tasted to good to be true!! Then milk shouldn't be pasturized. I am in big touble. I remember my mom when I was younger going out to a farm to get fresh milk and it was so good!! I wonder if you can still go to a farm now to get unpasturized milk?

I have read the states it isn't legal to sell at a store you may be able to go buy from a farmer. You see everyone? This is exactly what I am talking about! People years ago did NOT have heart disease and diabetes and all this crap we have now!!!! They also ate and drank a ton of dairy and meat and stuff high in fat! They didn't have "low fat" back then!! You know what they didn't have? Processed foods, canned foods, a bunch of sugar, a bunch of crap added to their foods!!!! I pick up a can or a box of anything and I do not know what half the stuff on the list is!! They had organic, fresh food and limited acess to sugar!!! This health crisis is rediculous and I for one am sick to death of us being unhealthy and getting fat because of it!!

Canuk4:

have a couple of kids and she will still be sending you home for one reason or another

That is funny, but is sad. His "home" should be with her. If he is coughing then go out to the couch but really sometimes I tease Joey about locking him out but even when I am irritated with him I do not want him more than a few feet from me. Maybe she isn't "the one"

sorry about that, I don't know where that blab came from, it just popped out.

Nothing to be sorry for. I blab on here all the time!! :hug:

Well I did 25 mins. floor exercise this morning. And did the walking ab cd for 2 miles tonight, so very pleased with myself.

Great job!!!

My daughters boyfriend is having heart problems, they were to go to Riu Ocho Rios Jamica this Sunday and he was told from the specialist yesterday now, that he can't fly. I feel so bad for them, this was there first big trip, my daughter is being a real trooper though about the trip, obviously more worried about him then anything, he is haveing an angiogram on Tues. and possibly angioplasty or stents, they are too young to be dealing with this stuff, she is only 29, he is a bit older. They unfortunately did not take out cancellation insurance though, so will lose a good chunk of money. If any of you are travelling in the near future get the ins. Anyhow she called today and asked if my husband and I would take the trip if they could get it transferred, we discussed it and though we do not have the funds to pay them now, she feels at least it would be better than losing the money they paid out, if someone could go. My son can't as he has to many meetings and is starting his holidays the 15th, so has to be around. So at the moment we are waiting to hear if they will transfer the trip to us, I have such mixed feelings, I want to be home and be with her at the hospital while she waits for her hubby while he is having the angiogram, I feel devasted for them as they were so looking forward to the trip. My daughter says she is glad it happened here, not when they were away, she is thinking of it as a blessing. I feel excited we might go, but sick for the two of them and what they are dealing with.

I am so sorry to hear about that hun! She would probably feel better if you got to go at least!
My best wishes that he gets better. Does anyone know why he is having trouble?

I also am worried about trying to diet and exercise while away. I will deal with that when we hear later on today.

Just remember this is not a diet, this is your new life. My recommendation of course would be to eat nothing but fruit and/or yogurt for breakfast. For lunch have healthy turkey and tomato, maybe with cheese sandwiches! Go out for dinner if you can, plan ahead and see online if any places have a menu nutrition guidelines, I know dennys does. Plan it out that way. Make sure you treat yourself at least once with something you really like. The rest of the time make healthier choices!

I just feel like I'm stealing the trip from them and they were so excited, God works in mysterious ways.

You are not stealing anything! Pay them back as you can, enjoy the trip! And have fun!!! She can't go so you may as well hun!

will go now, thanks for listening to me, seem's I need you guys more than I realized, with the arm thing, now this, thanks for being there and your support. Sharon

No Problem! :hug:

stopeating:

I am glad you had fun with your son and were careful. I am not in control when it comes to pizza! haha

Older son has a wheelchair basketball tournament today three hours away. His dad is taking him. They will play all day and he will call me after each game and tell me how its going. His dad and I split the tournaments (ex) and I volunteered to give him December. Ha! Ha! Ha!

I am sure he will do great!! :D

Still feeling lousy. First time I didn't exercise last night. Need to do lots of baking and shopping this weekend or I will be in major trouble. Cancelled a gathering I was suppose to go to tomorrow, just too much to do.

I hope you feel better and get everything done! :D

I managed to lose two pounds this week! It was a tough week with the holiday gatherings, and I had a few indulgences, but the last two days I didn't hit 1000 calories with this thing so it balanced out.

That is awesome sweetie!!! WTG!!! Whoohooo!!! :carrot: Keep it up!!

JasonsLea:

Morning all! How are you all doing? I've been doing good with my exercise but just HORRIBLE with my water! I really really REALLY need to get out of food service because being around this food is messing with my diet. I have no will power.

Drink it girl! :lol: Yeah I was so much better after I left Dominos pizza!!

ennay:

I read your response about the milk and I really like what you had to say. I will disuss it more in detail tomorrow. And how I feel and all that. You are not being opinionated. I am the same way and I really love having all of you to bounce new ideas off of. You all keep me sane when I get food crazy! haha There are some more links I want to show you too. I have to run now though. :hug:

Canuk4:

Dear friends, thank-you for the support, re daughter's boyfriend and heart problems and us going on there vacation. It was confirmed this morning they will transfer the trip to us, but we both go with heavy hearts, knowing it was suppose to be there trip, no matter what assurances we are getting from them, that it is so good someone can go in there place and the money for the trip has not been thrown away. I will make this short, after my going"s
on last night. Please say a prayer his heart procedures will be successful.
Thanks Sharon

I will be praying! Go on the trip and have a great time!!

P.S. Gained 1 pound, screwed up my eating yesterday. Have done 30 mins. floor so far today. Talk to you again on the 18th, wishing everyone well!

You'll lose it again.

loveandlaughalways:

Well i did horrible on the calories today 2450 or so and no exercise yet. went to the movies with husband. didn't realize regular popcorn was that filled with calories. oh well tomorrow is another day!!

Yep! Just start again tomorrow!! :D Besides you can have a few low cal days to make up for it!

miafluker:

You can work later for more money! Get the schooling done!! :D



Okay well I will get to mu update later cause I got to run! But the short tidbit is I am down 2 pounds since last sunday!!!! :carrot: :carrot: :D :devil:


miafluker
12-09-2006, 10:05 PM
thanks Jasmine i forgot all about the new thread what would we do with u




i though i would post this info about sugar i found you guys probably already heard of this but for the ones that are just researching info here is what i found......................

ARTICLE: How Much Sugar is Too Much?
By Chris Woolston

A bowl of sweetened cereal for breakfast, a cup of fruit yogurt for a snack, and a scoop of sherbet for dessert: You've just had more than 20 teaspoons of sugar without opening the sugar jar. Twenty teaspoons of sugar sounds like a lot -- and it is. (Just imagine scooping that much sugar directly into your mouth.) It may be hard to believe, but the typical American actually eats or drinks more than 20 teaspoons of added sugar each day, and that doesn't even count the sugars naturally found in foods such as fruits, fruit juices, and milk. Added sugar used to be a treat, but now it's a major part of the American diet. According to a 2004 report from the American Dietetic Association, sweeteners account for about 15 percent of our daily calories. But that's just an average. Many people get 30 percent or more of their calories from added sugars -- far more than any body really wants or needs. Sugar is a short-term source of both energy and pleasure. But at a time when sugar is everywhere, it's time to ask some important questions. What are the dangers of sugars? And how much is too much?

The 10 percent rule

According to the World Health Organization, no more than 10 percent of calories should come from added sweeteners. This advice is in line with the long-standing recommendations of the U.S. Department of Agriculture food pyramid, called for a maximum of 12 teaspoons of sugar (48 grams) in a 2,200-calorie diet, which translates to roughly 9 percent of daily calories. In a diet composed of 2,000 daily calories, that would amount to about 200 calories, or 50 grams of sugar. Now you have another reason to check nutrition labels. Thanks to them, it's easy to find out the sugar content of common foods from candy bars to breakfast cereals. Those labels are definitely worth a read because the numbers can be surprising: A single bowl of Frosted Mini Wheats contains three teaspoons (12 grams) of sugar; some raisin bran contains 20 grams; a 32-ounce sports drink can contain 19 teaspoons (76 grams) of sugar, and a 20-ounce Fruitopia fruit drink can pack nearly 18 teaspoons (71 grams) of sugar -- nearly one and a half times as much as you should have in one day. By glancing at the nutrition labels, you'll notice that a mini-candy bar often contains 10 grams of sugar, and that some "health" bars offer even more. If you're used to having a scone for breakfast, candy at the office, a sweetened-yogurt smoothie for lunch, sweetened iced tea or colas in the mid-afternoon, and ice cream after dinner, you may find out you're getting two or four or five times as much sugar as recommended. If you regularly drink 100 percent fruit juice, take a moment to look at those labels, too. These products don't contain any added sugar, but they're still plenty sweet. A small, 4.2-ounce juice box has nearly four teaspoons (15 grams) of sugar. The sugar may be natural, but as far as your body is concerned, it's no different from any other type of sugar. And be sure to count the "hidden" sources of sugar, too -- soups, canned spaghetti sauce, and even pork and beans may all contain significant amounts of added sugar. For every sugary product, however, there's a low-sugar or sugar-free alternative. For many people, cutting back on sugar is as simple as drinking skim milk or diet sodas instead of regular sodas (or better yet, water). If you're a big fan of cookies or candy, you might try to find something else to munch on, like low-salt pretzels. (Remember, even low-fat or fat-free cookies can be loaded with sugar.) You can make your own smoothies using fruits and non-sugared yogurt. And there are plenty of breakfast choices that aren't sweet enough to make your teeth hurt. A bowl of Cheerios, for instance, contains just a quarter-teaspoon (1 gram) of sugar.
Empty calories, possible dangers

If you're counting calories, you want every calorie to count. And that's where sugar falls short: It offers calories but nothing else. The sugar in a muffin or a cappuccino will take a big chunk out of your calorie quota for the day without moving you closer to your daily goals for minerals, vitamins, and other nutrients. If you eat too much of the sweet stuff, you'll have trouble getting enough healthy nutrients without going overboard on calories. By now, we all know the dangers of extra calories. As reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2004, roughly two-thirds of American adults and one-third of kids are heavy enough to put their health at risk. Sugar isn't the only cause of weight problems, but it's hard to imagine us ever reaching this sad state of affairs without a big lift from sweets and sodas. According to a report from the American Dietetic Association, regular sodas and other sugary beverages may be especially hard on the waistline. For one thing, liquids tend to be less filling than solids. High fructose corn syrup—the sweetener found in almost all sugary drinks—further tricks the body by blunting the hormones (insulin and leptin) that make you feel full. A can of soda might quench your thirst, but those 150 calories and 10 teaspoons of sugar won't do anything to quiet your hunger. A Harvard university study published in the Lancet in 2001 provided strong evidence that sweet drinks really can lead to extra weight, at least in children. The study found that each daily serving of soda or other sugary drinks raised a child's risk of obesity significantly. Extra weight isn't the only possible consequence of an overload of sugar. Sugary drinks and snacks can set the stage for cavities, especially in children. (On the bright side, good oral hygiene can prevent cavities even if a kid favors suckers and caramels.) Some studies have found that diets high in sugar can quickly boost triglycerides, fats in the blood that can clog the arteries. Some people react to sugar more strongly than others, and it's not clear if the triglyceride bounce lasts long enough to seriously raise the risk of heart disease. In some cases, sugar doesn't deserve its bad reputation. According to the American Dietetic Association, sugar doesn't make kids hyperactive or cause other behavior problems. Sugary foods don't raise the risk of type 2 diabetes, either, unless a person happens to become overweight from eating too many sweets

Use in moderation

Nutrition experts agree that too much sugar is unhealthy. Unfortunately, they can't agree on how much is too much. Under pressure from the sugar industry, some health agencies have backed down on long-established guidelines. The new guidelines, released in 2005, don't offer specific recommendations for sugar, and the government's 2005 Dietary Guidelines for Americans merely states that sugar should be used "in moderation." The Institute of Medicine and the American Dietetic Association are especially forgiving when it comes to sugar. Both say that it's safe to get as much as 25 percent of daily calories from added sugar. For a person on a 2,200-calorie diet, that means roughly 35 teaspoons (140 grams) of sugar each day. So if you're a highly active person who burns a lot of calories and doesn't worry about weight, you may decide to sweeten things up a bit. But are 35 teaspoons of sugar a day too much for the average person? The next time you're shopping for groceries or picking out a snack, try to picture all of that sugar piled up in a bowl. Given a choice, you'd probably want to leave some of that stuff for another day. -- Chris Woolston, MS, a health and medical writer with a master's degree in biology, is a contributing editor at Consumer Health Interactive. He is coauthor of Generation Extra Large: Rescuing Our Children from the Epidemic of Obesity (Perseus, 2005).



References


American Dietetic Association. Position of the American Dietetic Association: Use of nutritive and nonnutritive sweeteners. Journal of the American Dietetic Association. February 2004. 104(2):255-275.

Johnson RK and C Frary. Choose beverages and foods to moderate your intake of sugars: The 2000 dietary guidelines for Americans—What's all the fuss about. Journal of Nutrition. October 2001. 131(10):2766S-2711S.

University of Georgia Cooperative Extension Service. Sugar and your health. July 2000. http://www.fcs.uga.edu/pubs/PDF/FDNS-E-67a.pdf

Allison AH et al. Prevalence of overweight and obesity among US children, adolescents, and adults, 1999-2002. Journal of the American Medical Association. June 16, 2004. 291:2847-2850.

Center for Science in the Public Interest. Sugar content of popular foods. August 1999. http://www.cspinet.org/reports/sugar/popsugar.html

World Health Organization. WHO/FAO release independent expert report on diet and chronic disease. March 3, 2003. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/.../2003/pr20/en/

Ludwig DS et al. Relationship between sugar-sweetened drinks and childhood obesity: A prospective, observational analysis. The Lancet. February 17, 2001. 357(925): 505-508.




Reviewed by Michael Potter, MD, an attending physician and associate clinical professor at the University of California, San Francisco, who is board certified in family practice.


Resouce: http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/toomuchsugar

miafluker
12-09-2006, 10:08 PM
Jasmine did you say 2lbs since last week:hug: :carrot: that is great


Jasmine31
12-09-2006, 10:46 PM
Hey Mia! Thanx for posting that. I will look at it tomorrow. Just got back on real quick to change my ticker and profile to match my loss. Yes two since last sunday. Whoohoo!!! My main weigh in day is tomorrow but I last weighed tuesday morning and was 212(also on sunday) and have not weighed since since if I was up any cause of the tuesday pizza and crazy bread and cake day I would of been sad and depressed. So instead I kicked my butt, have kept the cals low for 4 days and here I am! 210! Wheee!!! I will weigh again tommorrow morning and see if any more is gone. ;)

I am also especially happy since it seems for like amonth I was stuck at losing like 1.5 pounds a week, still better than nothing but 2 is rejuvenating!! So I am down 5 since we started our fat smash bash the day after turkey day, down 3 total since the start of the month and so far 2 for the week. Not bad. :D Maybe I will lose that 10 by x~mas after all! ;)

ennay
12-09-2006, 11:44 PM
where is the bowing smiley; Jasmine you are amazing with the personals

loveandlaughalways
12-10-2006, 01:56 AM
hi all

Miafluker-if you can afford it and don't need your current job for experience, then I say do what you need and finish your bachelors without the extra stress of your job (whew 40 hours is alot on top of a little one, family, and school).

stopeating
12-10-2006, 08:26 AM
Today I plan to bake, bake, bake. I have 5 different types of cookies to make. Haven't exercised in two days. :( I'm going to exercise this morning to make sure I'm not too tired.

I through a tizzy at the store today. We spend a lot of money at the super grocery store. Anyway we returned a toy that one of the kids decided they didn't want for christmas after we bought it for $84. I got my credit card statement this month and it wasn't deducted. I go to the store and they tell me it is my problem!:mad: I called the credit card company, got disconnected, called again and explained and they tell me the store needs to fix it. Blah! Blah! Blah! Then the department I needed just closed!! Need to call today, but nothing irritates me more. I have all of my receipts including the refund so eventually it will get fixed but how frustrating that they make a mistake and I have to be the one to fix it? Where is customer service? Anyway thanks for listening to me vent.

Jasmine - 2 pounds!!!:carrot: I am so excited. :hug:
Miafluker - thanks for the info! I'm a sugar lover so kind of depressing, but I needed it. ;) If you can afford to quit your job and get the education, then you need to do it. You will always wonder if you don't.:hug:

miafluker
12-10-2006, 11:00 AM
thanks everyone for your opinions im just trying to make it past the holiday since school dosent start until Jan. stopeating dont feel bad i havent exercised the latter part of the week either. my inlaws are cooking racoon for dinner today:?: i have to get use to these traditions around here im going to the store to get some chicken breast though:carrot: and maybe a nice salad

martiniforme
12-10-2006, 01:19 PM
Ennay: Funny you should bring up all that information on dairy, I'm currently integrating to a Vegan diet. I've cut all meats out of my diet so far except poultry and fish, and am finding my protein from other sources. Also, the only dairy I haven't cut out of my diet so far is Eggs and Cheese. I recently switched to soy drink, and am going to be drying a cheese flavoured soy loaf as a substitute to cheese.
I have also read some terrible things about cow's milk, how they actually ADD estrogen! Like, heck! That floored me.
I am taking a Calcium Carbonate w/ Magnesium as a substitute for lack of dairy, which I've also read that the calcium in milk is not in a form that can be absorbed. Is this true?

Sharon: I agree, if I couldn't go on this trip, I would most definitely send my mother and father in my place. You can also look at it this way, if you didn't go, they would be out A LOT of money, and I think that would really sting. I'm so sorry to hear about the heart issues, I will keep him in my prayers. I know from recent experience that it can be a really scary time, not knowing. I have faith that you guys will pull through. As for your son, I don't know the whole story, but as we all know, as the men get older, the snoring only gets worse. Haha. Maybe if they are going to live together, they could invest in moving in to a larger place with 2+ bedrooms. My FIL is LOUD, not sawing logs, but more like sawing through an entire forest in each breath! LOL. MIL has a spare room set up where she and the dogs go to sleep on his bad nights. It works out for both of them, they all get sleep!

dolly: I like Ennay's idea of using honey as a sweetener. Right now I use Splenda in my tea, but I am going to pick up some raw honey today, and see if that is any better. I know I love lemon tea with honey, so..

Sugar: Have fun!!

Mia: I had a similar problem. It might be worth looking into another job similar (if you want to work PT) to your current one, and make sure it's known up front that you want PT, will be going to school, and the hours you work will be strict. I found that it was so hard to quit my job because of the sense of financial security it gave me, and I felt like I was throwing away all the work I had done to build up my rep at work, but after a month or so of no longer working there, I realized that I only had a million different options ahead of me, and it turned out to be a really good step for me. Good luck!

Jasmine: YES YOU! LOL

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Sorry I haven't posted at all this weekend, DF came back home for a couple days, and then left again this morning. Originally, they were supposed to be in Edson, AB for 3 days, with 5 crew members. Well, things happen, and everyone comes up with excuses, and now it's a 6 day venture with only 2 crew members. Which really p*sses me off because DF is so dedicated to his job (FIL and MIL own the business), and it seems like no one else is. He came home in such a bad mood, I feel bad for him.
Anyway, I've got my menu for the next week all planned out. I'm heading over to the store to pick up what I need a little later today, and am going to spend the afternoon getting my laundry all done, and the house tidied up. The housework is always so light when I'm here by myself, I love it :D

I've done it! I've removed milk completely from my diet (with proper supplementation, don't worry ladies!), and will see if I can remove cheese as of tonight. Yay soy! And soy is so stock full of nutrients, vitamins, a good source of omega 3 and 6, it's just great! And you can get it flavoured, too, but there's lots of sugar in the flavoured kind, that it's sometimes best to flavour it yourself.
I just love that feeling of bad habits kicked for good. Now, to stop biting my nails and smoking! LOL.

I hope everyone had a good weekend. Here's to making sure I make myself have a good week!

loveandlaughalways
12-10-2006, 01:53 PM
:cheers: Heres to making it a good week martiniforme...have you felt better not having milk products as to having them? I forgot to take my 1500mg of calcium yesturday. I have to make it a habit. I'm so bad at taking pills or anything of that sort. I will do better.

How much sugar does honey have?

Stopeating-"Today I plan to bake, bake, bake. I have 5 different types of cookies to make." I just had to say that rhymed...Have fun! I love to bake!!:D

Jasmine-:cheer: :goodscale Awesome 2lbs!!! Do you think we could have a link for us to put low cal recipes on? Just an idea.:D

I am in need of some serious mental change; I need some kick @#!%! Calories too high yesturday due to :corn: and no :dust: and I didn't feel like exercising at all. I think I didn't get enough sleep the night before last and I think it really effected my whole positive thinking. I was depressed:(

So today I am starting off good and am going to change my ways again!lol:D

miafluker
12-10-2006, 02:25 PM
loveandlaughalways here is some :dust: please give me some too
i just keep thinking i may fall but all i have to do is brush myself off and try again

martiniforme thank you so much for sharing that i think our biggest enemy is sometime ourselves i realize im a hard worker and am skilled in various areas ill find something

my ? is why can't i transfer some of that strengh to my weight problems?
im going to plan my menu for the week

ennay
12-10-2006, 04:27 PM
sugar and honey are about equal tsp for tsp

martini- honey wasnt me! I dont add sweetener at all :)

martiniforme
12-10-2006, 04:46 PM
:lol: I have no idea who said honey, but I was looking at the honey today, and I was soo surprised. I was looking at the non-processed honey, and all of them regardless of processed or not have 16g of sugar! So I started doing the calculations, and I was thinking honey has a different taste than sugar, so how much would I need, then I started thinking about it, and instead of buying the sweetner, I bought Green Tea with Pomegranite, and decided that would be tasty as it is. I used to drink my tea unsweetened, and I only started because my FIL was always fixing the tea, and he just always fixed mine with sugar and milk. I stopped with the milk, maybe I should stop with the sugar as well.

Also, my life hasn't changed too much with cutting back on my dairy. This may gross some people out, but I have less gas, and every couple of weeks I would get the big D, and that's kind of stopped. My stomach feels better for the most part, maybe I was lactose intolerant and didn't know it? Haha, that would be funny. Anyway, my digestive tract and bowels feel better.

AND GUESS WHAT?! I FORGOT TO MENTION!
I GOT TOM LAST WEEK!
That may not seem like a huge deal, but I haven't had anything, not even spotting, for over 10 months. YAY!!!!

ennay
12-10-2006, 04:48 PM
woooohooo Aunt Flo! lmao

martiniforme
12-10-2006, 04:51 PM
Mia: I know what you mean. But in all honesty, I think the more organized you are, the better. Sometimes looking at it so long term can really get me down, I just try to take each day as it is, and start each day new. And instead of making drastic changes, I make them gradually, so that when I realize I'm completely off something, I've already adjusted, and that's that. Also, seriously, removing the crap from your house is a good idea, because if it's not there, you won't snack on it, and worse case scenerio, I'll go overboard on something like yogurt, or rice cakes. Good luck :) Day by day.

Jasmine31
12-10-2006, 05:48 PM
Okay so I did not get to read everything but noticed mande and I just wanted to share this link with you hun! I have not read it for myself and I know it is someones opinion etc but just want you to know all your facts first! :hug:

Soy (http://www.google.com/custom?domains=Mercola.com&q=soy&sa=Search&client=pub-5036891189517018&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&safe=active&hl=en&sitesearch=Mercola.com&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B VLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3 AFFFFFF%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000% 3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BLH%3A112%3BLW%3A 778%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.mercola.com%2Fimages%2F mercolabannersearch.gif%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.mer cola.com%3BFORID%3A1%3B)

Jasmine31
12-10-2006, 05:50 PM
loveandlaughalways:

Jasmine- Awesome 2lbs!!! Do you think we could have a link for us to put low cal recipes on? Just an idea.

Yes feel free to start any new threads in this forum you want! Titl;e them Healthy Challenge Chick Recipes. If they get mad at us for cluttering the forum or something I have my own board as well we could put stuff at. ;) All are welcome to sign up anyways, link is under the jasmine cut.

Hun.e.B
12-10-2006, 05:51 PM
Good Sunday afternoon everyone! sorry I've not been around, I'm in full on study mode. Finals week is next week and there are a few I want to do really well on to ensure my As so i've been study study study! So I will be pretty inactive till friday. Just know I'm thinking of you all though, and wishing you tons of be strong thoughts!!

miafluker
12-10-2006, 06:06 PM
hey Mel good luck with finals

martiniforme
12-10-2006, 08:05 PM
Jasmine: Thanks a bunch for the link :) I've heard that soybean can lead to a number of health issues if it's not fermented, just like the website suggests. However, I don't consume it on a daily basis, and I try to get fermented soy, and do not eat tofu (which is not as good as people think it is). Mostly soy is used as a way to ween me off the dairy.

In all honesty, unless you're feeding yourself off your own home grown garden, slaughtering your own live stock, laying your own eggs, and milking your own cow, there isn't a way to get away from everything.
Sad, but true. Even our "organic" vegetables are sprayed with herbacides, have chemicals added, growth hormones, the works. Preservatives are a killer, and are found in almost everything. I still hold strong and true to the belief of moderation. And in all honesty, if we ate like we did 60-80 years ago, we'd all be better off for it! That is what I'm trying to get myself back to. If I didn't live in such a cold place, I'd have a year 'round garden! But with only 3-4 months of garden friendly weather a year, I just can't grow enough to sustain myself (although I still like to grow my own tomatoes and herbs :)).

Jasmine31
12-10-2006, 10:12 PM
In all honesty, unless you're feeding yourself off your own home grown garden, slaughtering your own live stock, laying your own eggs, and milking your own cow, there isn't a way to get away from everything.
Sad, but true. Even our "organic" vegetables are sprayed with herbacides, have chemicals added, growth hormones, the works. Preservatives are a killer, and are found in almost everything. I still hold strong and true to the belief of moderation. And in all honesty, if we ate like we did 60-80 years ago, we'd all be better off for it! That is what I'm trying to get myself back to. If I didn't live in such a cold place, I'd have a year 'round garden! But with only 3-4 months of garden friendly weather a year, I just can't grow enough to sustain myself (although I still like to grow my own tomatoes and herbs ).

I agree with this whole heartedly! I have been racking my brain trying to come up with what to do. The fish everywhere is contaminated! :( On Dr. Mercola's site he does list another site where he found fresh organic pasture fed beef! ALSO pasture fed beef contains omega 3 and CLA!

I went there and some stuff is a little pricey but the gr. beef if bought in bulk, (I have a deep freezer and 5 kids) looks like it is about $4.19

http://www.grasslandbeef.com/StoreFront.bok?affiliate_no=302

http://www.mercola.com/beef/faq.htm

http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Detail.bok?no=83

Omega 6:3 ratio rivals fish and chicken, plus twice the CLA level of the 87% lean burger. Plus, great flavor with every bite. Buy 2 boxes and save an additional $25.00 by activating the 40 pound weight discount.
PRICE: $117.25
(FREE SHIPPING + $7.50 total handling fee per order)

If I get two packs of 25 pounds that is $117.25 x 2 = $234.50 - $25.00 when you buy 40 pounds and that = $209.50 divided by 50 pounds, that is $4.19 a pound.

(20% gr. beef out here is normally $3.50 a pound! So it is not that much more. I usually try to buy 7% when I buy gr. beef. On this website the fattier cuts have more CLA and omega 3 though probably cause they do have more fat! )

The 50 pound pack says it is $222.00 so if they give the 25.00 special off the value pack too it will be $3.94 a pound.

I think that is feasible for something that is not contaminated and is grass fed. I wish more places would do this!! Then the price would go down!

The other thing I liked was the roast. The chuck roast or bottom round bundle is $156.60 for 27 pounds. That breaks down to $5.81 a pound. A little pricey but I think it is worth it seeing as how we have roast about once a week. We have also been doing alot of rice and beans lately along with lesser amounts of chicken and adding in turkey so what we are saving with cooking more from scratch we can probably off set it a bit.

The other things seem pretty pricey though.

I looked at another website that wasn''t recommended by Mercola, found on my own and it was $8.95 for a pound of grass fed!!! SO that place charges even more!

Anyhow I know I probably sound crazy but I am really freaking out about alot of this stuff! If you still want to do cheese mande, see if they have tillamook, I switched to them cause they guaranteed for their cheese alone, NO BOVINE GROWTH HORMONES!

Ingredients:
Cultured Milk, Salt, Enzymes.

Some of the other cheeses say pasteuirized, does anyone know if "cultured" is better or what? Anyone has the 411 on culture let me know!

Anyhow, no BGH though. :D

http://www.tillamookcheese.com/FAQS/Growth_Hormones.aspx

A vital step in the process of making Tillamook cheese is the formation of cheese curd. In order to begin this development, a material is added to coagulate the milk. This material is an enzyme, a natural protein substance, which can cause certain specific chemical changes to take place. Only extremely minute quantities of the enzyme are needed to coagulate the casein in milk. For centuries, the only known source of a satisfactory milk coagulant for cheesemaking was an animal-derived enzyme. This enzyme, named chymosin, is commonly referred to as rennet.

We use the microbial/vegetable-based rennet (which has Kosher and Halal certification, and is approved for vegetarian products) to make all Tillamook cheese, with the exception of Tillamook Vintage White Medium Cheddar and Vintage White Extra Sharp Cheddar Cheeses. Our unique flavor profile of Tillamook Vintage White is a result of using traditional rennet.

The majority of the farmer-owners practice “pasture-based” dairying. Specifically, this means that for the majority of the year (March through November) the cows graze outside, except for twice a day when they are brought to the milking facility. During the winter (Late-November to early March) the weather is such that we keep our cows sheltered inside free-stall barns. These barns have areas for the cows to eat, exercise and sleep in clean, dry bedding. Their diets are customized and supplemented with grains and silage throughout the year.

Cow rations would consist of forages and grains that are balanced by a nutritionist so as to provide a complete ration that meets requirements for health, as well as milk production. The forage portion of the ration would vary somewhat between dairies but would include grass, alfalfa, and probably some corn silage. The grain portion would be a mixture of different grains, including corn and barley. They would also be given a vitamin/mineral supplement with their ration.

We want to assure you that antibiotics are not allowed in the milk we use, and we have a strict process to test milk for quality and safety before it is accepted.

While milking cows are not typically given antibiotics in their rations, as are other types of livestock, sometimes when an animal is sick it is necessary to medically treat them. In these instances, our farmer-owners treat their animals with appropriate antibiotics approved for this use. During their treatment the animal is taken out of the milk-producing herd, and their milk is not used until the cow is tested to show that the antibiotics have cleared their system.

As an additional precaution, every tank load of milk received is strictly tested for antibiotics. If any tanker tests positive, even if a trace amount is detected, the entire load will be disposed of immediately, never reaching you, the customer.

When I went to the realmilk site they suggest tillamook:
http://realmilk.com/where.html

Butter

The best commercial brands of butter are probably Organic Valley and Tillamook —they are pasteurized, but come from cows that are mostly pasture-fed. New Zealand butter is not currently available in the US. However, a growing number of farmers sell raw butter from pasture-fed cows directly to the consumer and ship within the continental US. Many of them place classified ads in Wise Traditions, the magazine of the Weston A. Price Foundation.

Anyhow so it seems Tillamook is the best iption for now! Real butter is more expensive but I have always loved it. I usually get it when it goes on sale and now after hearing everything about fake butter etc it is just the real stuff from here on out!

Jasmine31
12-10-2006, 10:17 PM
Nutrients in Butter

The Diet Dictocrats have succeeded in convincing Americans that butter is dangerous, when in fact it is a valued component of many traditional diets and a source of the following nutrients:

Fat-Soluble Vitamins: These include true vitamin A or retinol, vitamin D, vitamin K and vitamin E as well as all their naturally occurring cofactors needed to obtain maximum effect. Butter is America's best source of these important nutrients. In fact, vitamin A is more easily absorbed and utilized from butter than from other sources.61 Fortunately, these fat-soluble vitamins are relatively stable and survive the pasteurization process.

When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the world, he found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He did not find any isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) The groups he studied particularly valued the deep yellow butter produced by cows feeding on rapidly growing green grass. Their natural intuition told them that its life-giving qualities were especially beneficial for children and expectant mothers. When Dr. Price analyzed this deep yellow butter he found that it was exceptionally high in all fat-soluble vitamins, particularly vitamin A. He called these vitamins "catalysts" or "activators." Without them, according to Dr. Price, we are not able to utilize the minerals we ingest, no matter how abundant they may be in our diets. He also believed the fat-soluble vitamins to be necessary for absorption of the water-soluble vitamins. Vitamins A and D are essential for growth, for healthy bones, for proper development of the brain and nervous systems and for normal sexual development. Many studies have shown the importance of butterfat for reproduction; its absence results in "nutritional castration," the failure to bring out male and female sexual characteristics. As butter consumption in America has declined, sterility rates and problems with sexual development have increased. In calves, butter substitutes are unable to promote growth or sustain reproduction.62

Not all the societies Dr. Price studied ate butter; but all the groups he observed went to great lengths to obtain foods high in fat-soluble vitamins—fish, shellfish, fish eggs, organ meats, blubber of sea animals and insects. Without knowing the names of the vitamins contained in these foods, isolated traditional societies recognized their importance in the diet and liberally ate the animal products containing them. They rightly believed such foods to be necessary for fertility and the optimum development of children. Dr. Price analyzed the nutrient content of native diets and found that they consistently provided about ten times more fat soluble vitamins than the American diet of the 1930's. This ratio is probably more extreme today as Americans have deliberately reduced animal fat consumption. Dr. Price realized that these fat-soluble vitamins promoted the beautiful bone structure, wide palate, flawless uncrowded teeth and handsome, well-proportioned faces that characterized members of isolated traditional groups. American children in general do not eat fish or organ meats, at least not to any great extent, and blubber and insects are not a part of the western diet; many will not eat eggs. The only good source of fat-soluble vitamins in the American diet, one sure to be eaten, is butterfat. Butter added to vegetables and spread on bread, and cream added to soups and sauces, ensure proper assimilation of the minerals and water-soluble vitamins in vegetables, grains and meat.

The Wulzen Factor: Called the "antistiffness" factor, this compound is present in raw animal fat. Researcher Rosalind Wulzen discovered that this substance protects humans and animals from calcification of the joints—degenerative arthritis. It also protects against hardening of the arteries, cataracts and calcification of the pineal gland.63 Calves fed pasteurized milk or skim milk develop joint stiffness and do not thrive. Their symptoms are reversed when raw butterfat is added to the diet. Pasteurization destroys the Wulzen factor—it is present only in raw butter, cream and whole milk.

The Price Factor or Activator X: Discovered by Dr. Price, Activator X is a powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body absorb and utilize minerals. It is found in organ meats from grazing animals and some sea food. Butter can be an especially rich source of Activator X when it comes from cows eating rapidly growing grass in the spring and fall seasons. It disappears in cows fed cottonseed meal or high protein soy-based feeds.64 Fortunately, Activator X is not destroyed by pasteurization.

Arachidonic Acid: A 20-carbon polyunsaturate containing four double bonds, found in small amounts only in animal fats. Arachidonic acid (AA) plays a role in the function of the brain, is a vital component of the cell membranes and is a precursor to important prostaglandins. Some dietary gurus warn against eating foods rich in AA, claiming that it contributes to the production of "bad" prostaglandins, ones that cause inflammation. But prostaglandins that counteract inflammation are also made from AA.

Short- and Medium-Chain Fatty Acids: Butter contains about 12-15% short- and medium-chain fatty acids. This type of saturated fat does not need to be emulsified by bile salts but is absorbed directly from the small intestine to the liver, where it is converted into quick energy. These fatty acids also have antimicrobial, antitumor and immune-system-supporting properties, especially 12-carbon lauric acid, a medium-chain fatty acid not found in other animal fats. Highly protective lauric acid should be called a conditionally essential fatty acid because it is made only by the mammary gland and not in the liver like other saturated fats.65 We must obtain it from one of two dietary sources—small amounts in butterfat or large amounts in coconut oil. Four-carbon butyric acid is all but unique to butter. It has antifungal properties as well as antitumor effects.66

Omega-6 and Omega-3 Essential Fatty Acids: These occur in butter in small but nearly equal amounts. This excellent balance between linoleic and linolenic acid prevents the kind of problems associated with overconsumption of omega-6 fatty acids.

Conjugated Linoleic Acid: Butter from pasture-fed cows also contains a form of rearranged linoleic acid called CLA, which has strong anticancer properties. It also encourages the buildup of muscle and prevents weight gain. CLA disappears when cows are fed dry hay or processed feed.67

Lecithin: Lecithin is a natural component of butter that assists in the proper assimilation and metabolization of cholesterol and other fat constituents.

Cholesterol: Mother's milk is high in cholesterol because it is essential for growth and development. Cholesterol is also needed to produce a variety of steroids that protect against cancer, heart disease and mental illness.

Glycosphingolipids: This type of fat protects against gastrointestinal infections, especially in the very young and the elderly. For this reason, children who drink skimmed milk have diarrhea at rates three to five times greater than children who drink whole milk.68

Trace Minerals: Many trace minerals are incorporated into the fat globule membrane of butterfat, including manganese, zinc, chromium and iodine. In mountainous areas far from the sea, iodine in butter protects against goiter. Butter is extremely rich in selenium, a trace mineral with antioxidant properties, containing more per gram than herring or wheat germ.

One frequently voiced objection to the consumption of butter and other animal fats is that they tend to accumulate environmental poisons. Fat-soluble poisons such as DDT do accumulate in fats; but water-soluble poisons, such as antibiotics and growth hormones, accumulate in the water fraction of milk and meats. Vegetables and grains also accumulate poisons. The average plant crop receives ten applications of pesticides—from planting to storage—while cows generally graze on pasture that is unsprayed. Aflatoxin, a fungus that grows on grain, is one of the most powerful carcinogens known. It is correct to assume that all of our foods, whether of vegetable or animal origin, may be contaminated. The solution to environmental poisons is not to eliminate animal fats—so essential to growth, reproduction and overall health—but to seek out organic meats and butter from pasture-fed cows, as well as organic vegetables and grains. These are becoming increasingly available in health food stores and supermarkets and through mail order and cooperatives.

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#butter

Jasmine31
12-10-2006, 10:20 PM
Anyhow, lots of good info there and it just makes sense!! Back 100 years ago there was not lowfat this and that, that is not how God created food. Mothers breast milk is not lowfat1 I could go on and on. If anyone is interested feel free. One more link for ya:

Politically Incorrect: The Neglected Nutritional Research of Dr., Weston Price, DDS (http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/weston_price.htm)

That is a great article and alot of what I have been reading lately just makes sense. *sigh*

loveandlaughalways
12-11-2006, 12:04 AM
Mia-thanks for the will power dust it really helped today; I actually got my fanny up out of the chair climbed on the treadmill and did 90 minutes of walking and 30 minutes of playstation2 dance pad. I was sweating up a storm,but felt like I accomplished something for the day. Here is some :dust: for you!!

jasmine-I don't know what to say...I am in "awe" with all the information. It will take a while for me to sift through it all and take what I need from it. I knew there was bad stuff we were eating, but that is way more than expected. My sister who is 9 is allergic to mostly everything. My father found a farmer near by who let him buy a half a beef with no preservatives or garbage in it for $500. I think they were happy they did it.

I have thought about getting a freezer for our garage. That way I can get only the sale items at safeway and stock up.

loveandlaughalways
12-11-2006, 12:45 AM
Hun.e.b.-:goodluck: on your finals!! I hope all goes well!!

JasonsLea
12-11-2006, 08:59 AM
Morning all. TWO freakin weeks till Christmas!

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 10:10 AM
Hun e b:

Good luck with the tests! I know you will do well! :D

Mande:

The Myths of Vegetarianism (http://www.mercola.com/2000/apr/2/vegetarian_myths.htm)

Vitamin A -- A Vital Nutrient (http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb/6/vitamin_a.htm)

Just trying to keep ya informed hun! :hug:

I will be back to respond to everyone else in a second.

edit:

JasonsLea:

I know it is coming so quick!

loveandlaughalways:

I actually got my fanny up out of the chair climbed on the treadmill and did 90 minutes of walking and 30 minutes of playstation2 dance pad.

That is great sweetie! I just took it easy yesterday.

jasmine-I don't know what to say...I am in "awe" with all the information. It will take a while for me to sift through it all and take what I need from it. I knew there was bad stuff we were eating, but that is way more than expected. My sister who is 9 is allergic to mostly everything. My father found a farmer near by who let him buy a half a beef with no preservatives or garbage in it for $500. I think they were happy they did it.

I have thought about getting a freezer for our garage. That way I can get only the sale items at safeway and stock up.

Uugghhhh. I know it is alot! I started getting a panic attack last nite! I hate being this way. It is like I either don't care at all and "ignorance is bliss" and all that and I weigh 280 pounds and am not healthy, or I REALLY care and rack my brain trying to learn about everything and figure out how to be healthy. I know my dh says you have to "make it your own" and I know that is true like for some people fat smash works, for some, it is cal counting, or weight watchers etc. But this is NOT about thta. This is about my being healthy and living a long healthy life, not just losing the weight which I also want.

When there is tuna in the mercury and peanut butter is the most heavily pesticided of crops it is rediculous!

This a.m. I just found out that you "allegedly" can't get vitamin A from plant sources. I STILL don't UNDERSTAND THAT. That kind of irritates me cause I gheard that vitamin A is good for helping to protect smokers against emphysema and cancer. SO we have been doing romaine and have been doing carrots for months!

You can get it from butter, like 8% so that is good but you can't eat too much of that either! They mentioned liver and I hate liver!

1. Supplements of beta-carotene (or foods containing it such as orange and yellow plant foods) are NOT the same as those with vitamin A. Beta-carotene is the metabolic precursor of vitamin A; it must be converted into real vitamin A in the intestines along with the help of bile salts, thyroid hormone, and dietary fat. Infants, and those with diabetes, alcoholism, hypothyroidism, and/or liver or gall bladder problems cannot make this conversion. Additionally, the body's conversion of beta-carotene to active vitamin A is very poor: it takes roughly 6 units of beta-carotene to make just one unit of vitamin A. Be sure, then, that you pruchase supplements that very clearly state that they are REAL vitamin A and not beta-carotene.

I just had to remind myself last nite that all I can do is my best and it is up to God, not man, not vitamins etc when or how I will die. Or if I will be healthy or not. All I can do is my best to protect myself and God will have to do the rest.

I did look at my multi vitamin and it says 3500 iu ~ 70% (29% as beta carotene)

Anyhow where does your dad live? Are the cows strictly grass fed? That is awesome if so and no antibiotics etc. When we move to montana I am really hoping to find a local farmer too. Also hunting, from what I can tell deer are good to eat. I am really sad about the fish though. :( Has your family been getting fresh milk and cheese from that guy too?

Hun.e.B
12-11-2006, 10:13 AM
Good Monday morning everyone!! thanks for the well wishes on the finals!! I just had to pop in and wish everyone a wonderful day! Be good to yourselves!! Just because the holidays are upon us doesnt mean we can give up on our goals!! Have the best day today!!

~melissa

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 10:34 AM
You have a great day to hun e b! :D

Well my dh said I am down another .50 a pound this morning! WHoohooo!!! So I am officially in the 209's!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!! I SOOOOO Can't wait til I am in the 190's! That will be next!!!!! :D :carrot:

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 10:47 AM
stopeating:

What kind of cookies will you bake? :D

I would be so mad at the store!!!! DId you get any satisfaction about that?

Jasmine - 2 pounds!!! I am so excited.

Thanx! 2.5 now! ;)

miafluker:

hanks everyone for your opinions im just trying to make it past the holiday since school dosent start until Jan. stopeating dont feel bad i havent exercised the latter part of the week either. my inlaws are cooking racoon for dinner today i have to get use to these traditions around here im going to the store to get some chicken breast though and maybe a nice salad

SOunds good! :D

martiniforme:

Jasmine: YES YOU! LOL

hahaah Well actually it is on the 19th of Dec. I usually never post the REAL date! hehehehe

Sorry I haven't posted at all this weekend, DF came back home for a couple days, and then left again this morning. Originally, they were supposed to be in Edson, AB for 3 days, with 5 crew members. Well, things happen, and everyone comes up with excuses, and now it's a 6 day venture with only 2 crew members. Which really p*sses me off because DF is so dedicated to his job (FIL and MIL own the business), and it seems like no one else is. He came home in such a bad mood, I feel bad for him.

Awww. Tell him to keep his chin up! I am glad you got to see him!!

Anyway, I've got my menu for the next week all planned out. I'm heading over to the store to pick up what I need a little later today, and am going to spend the afternoon getting my laundry all done, and the house tidied up. The housework is always so light when I'm here by myself, I love it

You need to take time to relax too!!

loveandlaughalways:

I am in need of some serious mental change; I need some kick @#!%! Calories too high yesturday due to and no and I didn't feel like exercising at all. I think I didn't get enough sleep the night before last and I think it really effected my whole positive thinking. I was depressed

Awww, you'll do better today!!

miafluker:

my ? is why can't i transfer some of that strengh to my weight problems?
im going to plan my menu for the week

If you start eating the right combinations of food you will not need much will power! ;)

I'll go over my menu last week in a few.

martiniforme:

Green tea with pom? Never heard of it with that cool! I just got done getting green tea last week.

Also, my life hasn't changed too much with cutting back on my dairy. This may gross some people out, but I have less gas, and every couple of weeks I would get the big D, and that's kind of stopped. My stomach feels better for the most part, maybe I was lactose intolerant and didn't know it? Haha, that would be funny. Anyway, my digestive tract and bowels feel better.

I think it is because of all the pasteurization and homogenization. Glad you are feeling better!

ND GUESS WHAT?! I FORGOT TO MENTION!
I GOT TOM LAST WEEK!
That may not seem like a huge deal, but I haven't had anything, not even spotting, for over 10 months. YAY!!![/QUOTE]

That is awesome sweetie! Sounds like your body is much better cause of all the healthy changes! :carrot:

[COLOR="Red"]Okay I think I did all the personals, if I have left anyone out let me know and it was not intentional! :hug: to everyone![ I will be back in a few to update everyone on what I am up to!/COLOR]

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 11:26 AM
Okay here is my menu from last sunday til last saturday:

Sunday 3rd 1742 cals(fat 58 grams)

32 oz of coffee
5 tbs creamer
.90 of a cup of low fat yogurt
1.5 corn tortillas
1/2 a cup enchilada sauce
.50 a cup of chicken breast
1 oz cheddar cheese
1 cup of mashed potatoes
6 oz of roast beef
1 cup of spanish rice
pumpkin pie with no crust
3 tbs of gravy
5 spears of asparagus

Monday 4th 1562 cals(fat 43 grams)

1 slimfast low carb shake
1.5 cup of chicken breast
6 corn tortillas
1 serving of cashews
2 hebrew national hot dogs
.75 cup of beans
1 blueberry home made muffin
1 envelope of hot cocoa

Tuesday 5th(Katy's b~day) 2152 cals(76 fat grams)

3 little caesar pepperoni pizzas
5 stix of crazy bread!
1 cup of low fat yogurt
1 slice of american cheese
1 serving of turkey breast lunch meat
2 servings of ezekiel sprouted grain
1/2 a serving of cashews
1 serving of cake
3 tbs of frosting

December 6, 1306 cals(29 fat grams)

32 oz of coffee
5 tbs of creamer
1 serving non fat yogurt
2 servings of ezekiel bread
1 serving of am. cheese slice
1 serving of turkey breast lunch meat
1/2 a serving of cashews
1/2 a cup of beans
1 cup of spanish rice
.50 a cup of chicken breast
1 orange
4 oz of lowfat cottage cheese
.50 a tomato

December 7, 1265 cals(39 fat grams)

32 oz of coffee
5 tbs creamer
.50 cup of kefir
.50 cup of chicken breast
.50 a cup of spanish rice
1 serving of cashews
1 orange
1 apple
.50 a grapefruit
.50 a cup of blueberries
.50 an ounce of cheddar tillamookcheese
romaine lettuce
some spinach leaves
.50 a cup of chicken
1 cup broccoli
.50 a cup of carrots
.66 a serving of light ranch dressing
.50 a tomato
4 oz cottage cheese
2 mugs of green tea

December 8, 1171 cals(43 fat grams)

1 orange
1 cup of chili beans
1 tbs of real butter
1 slice of ezekiel bread
1 tsp peanut butter
.50 a serving of cashews
1 serving of tillamook cheese
.50 a tomato
1 tsp creamer
6 mugs of green tea
.50 a cup of spanish rice
.12 of an avocado
.50 a cup
1 corn muffin

December 9, 1344 cals(53 fat grams)

.20 of an apple
.20 of an orange
.20 cup of blueberries
.10 of a grapefruit
.40 of a cup of kefir
2 tsp of real butter
1 cup of spanish rice
1 cup of chili beans
2 slices of danola lunch ham
2 home made waffles
1.6 serving of tillamook cheese
16 oz coffee
1 mug of green tea

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 11:34 AM
That is a total of 10, 542 cals divided by 7 = 1506 average Wow! I have been doing really good! I lost 2 pounds from that sunday til that saturday and today i am down another .50 a pound. Oh and I was trying to be good the day after the pizza but I was not planning on keeping my cals that low for so many days, but ya know what? I was not that hungry! The beans really fill ya up! All those days I was not hungry once! I had to remind myself to eat! I tried to make sure I got a good balance of nutrients plus my vitamin. My walking average has even gone down this month and yet I am down two pounds in a week for the first time since october! Oct I lost 2 to 2.25 a week consistently and then november I did even better eating wise, less fat and walked my butt off! I ended up at like a 90 minute average vs. oct with the 57 average and I only lost like 1.5 a week! I looked over my fitday in oct esp. towards the beg. where I lost 5 pounds in two weeks and one thing I noticed was the fat grams where way up there!

I have been doing some reading. It just seems like your body needs the fats including sat fats to absorb nutrients and to lose weight! I do try to keep a good balance with the "good fats" nuts avocado olive oil etc. NO TRANS FATS THOUGH!!! I have completely washed my hands of those. Did you all know sat fat and cholesterol is in breast milk?

Anyways. It just seems that there is high fat in things for a reason. I am just going to try to watch my fat levels and not get too crazy with it and we'll see how I do.

dollypie
12-11-2006, 11:53 AM
My oh my look at all the chatty chicks!

Just popping in! Had a busy weekend and need to rest. Saturday was my splurge dinner night and I had some of the best chicken enchiladas I have every had in my life! They were so good! For feeling a little bit guilty I went to work out on Sunday morning, it felt good!

At my house it is very rare that we actually eat beef. If we do it is for an occasional steak and to treat the DH. DH actually hunts every winter and brings home one or two deer. This is plenty of meat for us and we even share with my brother. Some people don't like the taste of venison, but I have to agree with DH is how it is killed and how the meat is treated before it is processed. We only add about 5% fat to ground meat and then leave the rest in steaks and roasts. Also DH goes on one fishing trip a year with his Dad either off the coast. The comes back with so much fish that we have enough to last us for at least nine months. DH and I compromise he gets to have fun doing what he likes, but in the process he brings home food that we know is natural. Just my thoughts!

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 11:54 AM
Yeah just checked my walking average and its only 46.7 so far. I like to keep a 60 minute a day average at least so I better get moving! But the point I was getting to is that having an 87 minute walking average in November vs. I think 67 in October did NOT help me lose more, I lost less! :( So that is why my goal this month is a 60 minute average with adding in more pilaties and 9 minute abs!

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 11:57 AM
Hi Dolly! I like what yoou had to say especially about the deer. I can't wait til we move back to Mt. and dh gets to go hunting! WHat do you mean you leave the rest in steaks and roast? I know my dh told me when they chop it up or grind it deer is so lean they do add fat to it. WHat about the fish though? From what I hear most fish everywhere are contaminated now! :( Because of the coal factories I believe. I wonder if there is a way to check.

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 12:02 PM
http://epa.gov/waterscience/fish/states.htm

Just found this it says to check your states position.

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 12:11 PM
I found the Ca. one but not the one for Montana fish info. :(
edit:

I think I found it.

http://fwp.mt.gov/FwpPaperApps/fishing/fishconsumption.pdf

jcatron243
12-11-2006, 12:25 PM
Wow you guys take my breath away! So much info ans so many posts to catch up on.
I havent posted since last week sometime I have just been sick. My kids are better Thank God! but myself is another story. It all started on monday, I was so run down It was awful, Tuesday was a little better, but not much, wed and thurs sore throat, Friday I developed some intestinal bug I couldn't get out of bed except to run to the bathroom. DH came home to take care of the kids and to let me sleep, which was big help, that evening I was able to eat and even had to venture to the store for dog food and diapers. Sat and Sun, I was rundown, with a runny nose and TODAY someone turned on the faucet to my nose during the night and I cant shut it off!!! :( I have had such a tough time with my food choices this month and I haven't gotten the amount of exercise that I want, But I am still determined to reach my 1500 min goal.

K. Enough whining. You guys are so awsome!! I can't do personals because my brain isn't functioning but: congrats to those who lost!! Good luck on Finals Melissa. UMMM sorry guys MY brian is on drugs!! Have a good healthy day!

dollypie
12-11-2006, 12:45 PM
Jasmine,

Just like you would have a roast from beef I cook venison the same way in a crock-pot on low for about 8-10 hours so it is very tender. With steaks we usually sautee it in a pan or make kaboobs. We are in Texas and DH usually fishes in Matagorda, San Antonio, Copano, or Corpus Christi Bay. He is very aware of were to and not to fish. He stays away from the Houston area and more east towards Lousiana. Texas Parks and Wildlife does a fabulous job of keeping there website up for information about fish contamination. They also have a wonderful restocking and catch regulation program in place for both fresh and saltwater. The fish in my avatar are some of the one we caught last fall. The biggest on caught was 28", the largest you can keep. That one fish will feed 8 people easy.

loveandlaughalways
12-11-2006, 01:51 PM
There is a place for you gals to post recipes now in Healthy Chicks Recipes Thread. I started with two recipes so I hope to see at least one favorite low cal recipe from everyone here or more, because I am hungry and need more variety :D

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 05:08 PM
Jennie:

I hope ya feel better soon! :hug: You need to kick it into gear. I am eating pretty good and not much at all and feel great! I keep going over my fit day again and again making sure I put everything in right. Try more beans!
I need to kick it up with my walking too. I have gotten lax and seem to be losing more. :lol: Don't ask!

dollypie:

Jasmine,

Just like you would have a roast from beef I cook venison the same way in a crock-pot on low for about 8-10 hours so it is very tender. With steaks we usually sautee it in a pan or make kaboobs. We are in Texas and DH usually fishes in Matagorda, San Antonio, Copano, or Corpus Christi Bay. He is very aware of were to and not to fish. He stays away from the Houston area and more east towards Lousiana. Texas Parks and Wildlife does a fabulous job of keeping there website up for information about fish contamination. They also have a wonderful restocking and catch regulation program in place for both fresh and saltwater. The fish in my avatar are some of the one we caught last fall. The biggest on caught was 28", the largest you can keep. That one fish will feed 8 people easy.

That sounds great Dolly! What do you add to season the roast in the crock pot? That is a cute pic! I didn't know it was yours. Well I looked up fishing in Mt and it looks as if we may be safe at some places with the rainbow trout. Hopefully that is near where we will be moving to. If not, we will move closer. haha Dh and I were chatting at lunch, we already have one deep freezer and when we move there and send him hunting between that and the fish we will need two! :lol: I can't wait! After the holidays is when we are going to go talk to the judge and ask permission to move. I can't wait! I think hun e b lives up there, I should ask her about the fishing too.

loveandlaughalways:

Thanx for starting it! I will post some in there soon!

Jasmine31
12-11-2006, 05:11 PM
Vegetarians Told to Increase Intake of Vitamin A (http://sites.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/vegetarian_vitamin_a.htm)

Strict Vegetarians Can Develop Blindness and Brain Damage (http://sites.mercola.com/2000/mar/26/vegetarians_blindness.htm)

stopeating
12-11-2006, 05:52 PM
Hello! Okay crazy Michigan weather. We got several inches of snow last week and now it won't stop raining and it just all about melted!!:dizzy:

Okay so yesterday I made lots of chocolate chip cookies, snowballs, oatmeal raising (dh's favorites) and butter cookies. I won't share the recipes cause there is nothing fat free about these thing. ;) I need to make a couple of more sets and some candy so I took Wednesday off of work to cook and clean.

I had to make a formal complaint to my credit card company about the charges on my visa. It will take about a month for it to be fixed. :mad:

Still have this cold or something so my calories have been low (about 1000 for four days).

loveandlaugh - thanks for the new thread:)
jcatron -I hope you feel better soon:(
Jasmine - Great job on the calories. :)
Melissa- Finals are almost done. :dizzy:

miafluker
12-11-2006, 07:57 PM
guess what guys........the scale said 225.5 today so ill round it to 226 wich means i still lost 1lb:carrot: it may not be much now but the fact im finally losing excites me also i stayed on plan today:carrot: i worked out this morning and i ate right and as planned. How was everyone today? im going to have to take a look at those recipes i wish i was a little more creative

loveandlaughalways
12-12-2006, 02:21 AM
:congrat: :cheer: Mia on the 1 lb loss!!! i got on the scale this evening which I never do and it said 179.2; I checked it twice because I am always 181 to 184 in the evening. My weigh in date is wednesday morning. So lets hope it is real!!

Keep up the great work stopeating and good luck on the credit card dellima.

We just rented a cabin for our 3rd annual ski trip with friends. I hope to ski this year or just participate a little(I am afaid of heights). I will probably end up helping my 4 year old snow board which is exercise and fun too!!

JasonsLea
12-12-2006, 08:56 AM
Morning everyone. Congrats to everyone that has lost. TOM came last night and completely screwed up my WI this morning. Crapola.

Jasmine31
12-12-2006, 09:44 AM
Good morning everyone!

stopeating:

Okay so yesterday I made lots of chocolate chip cookies, snowballs, oatmeal raising (dh's favorites) and butter cookies. I won't share the recipes cause there is nothing fat free about these thing. I need to make a couple of more sets and some candy so I took Wednesday off of work to cook and clean.

Mmmm.... those sound yummy! DO you think oatmeal cookies are better since there is presumably less flour and more oatmeal? I am thinking about that.

I hope it goes well with the credit company!

I hope you feel better and hopefully you will shake some weight off!!

Jasmine - Great job on the calories.

Thanx!

miafluker:

guess what guys........the scale said 225.5 today so ill round it to 226 wich means i still lost 1lb

SOunds like 1.5 to me! Great job!!!! :D

it may not be much now but the fact im finally losing excites me also i stayed on plan today

I am always excited even if it is just half a pound!!

loveandlaughalways:

i got on the scale this evening which I never do and it said 179.2; I checked it twice because I am always 181 to 184 in the evening. My weigh in date is wednesday morning. So lets hope it is real!!

That is awesome! I would be stoked!!!! :D WTG!!

We just rented a cabin for our 3rd annual ski trip with friends. I hope to ski this year or just participate a little(I am afaid of heights). I will probably end up helping my 4 year old snow board which is exercise and fun too!!

Where are you going skiing at? SOunds like fun!!!

JasonsLea:

Morning everyone. Congrats to everyone that has lost. TOM came last night and completely screwed up my WI this morning. Crapola.

Hello! That sucks. I am just getting over mine but amazingly I lost still! :lol:

I'll get to me later. For now, some good things I started this last week. I picked up a box of green tea and was overjoyed to find I can drink it straight. I have also read it is just as hydrating as water for you only better cause it has antioxidants in it! SO I can use it in place of. Hooray! I also decided to cut out my 32 oz of coffee just to the weekend. That will save me about 175 cals a day just in creamer! I use the ammaretto or hazelnut. Plus it has like 5 grams of sugar per tbs and I have 5 tbs per day.

dollypie
12-12-2006, 12:39 PM
Okay ladies, I need some motivation today! Yesterday was a horrible food day, from the moment I walked in the house after work. Let's just say M&Ms, doritos, extra cheesy pizza, and soda later I felt miserable. I went to walk this morning, but I still feel really down. This is the point where I would normally just give up and gain the weight back, but I am really going to try and make it through today eating healthy!

loveandlaughalways
12-12-2006, 01:48 PM
Don't give up dollypie!! :hug: Believe me I have been there; I can't even have that kind of food in the house. i am way too vulnerable right now. I had way too many calories this last week on one day, but decided I was not going to give up and tried harder the next few days going lower on the calories to make up for the high calorie day and it must have averaged out because when I got on the scale this morning I was 177!! So don't give up as long as your average for the whole week is less you will stay the same weight or lose. Besides if you give up there is no other place to go..;)

loveandlaughalways
12-12-2006, 01:50 PM
Oh and here is some :dust: it helped me through this last week.

Jasmine31
12-12-2006, 06:48 PM
Dolly do NOT give up! There are serious health risks associated with eating like that!! You can NOT do that to your body. One day is okay and I am all for a break every now and then but you get right back on your healthy eating today! Look at me, look at my menu for last week. One day I had 3 pieces of pizza and 5 crazy stix and cake and icing and the rest of the week I got back on it and still lost two pounds! You can do it!!

stopeating
12-12-2006, 07:57 PM
Dollypie - I know how you feel. I've been there and done it so many times before, but I looked at your stats and wow!!:hug: You should be incredibly proud of yourself. Remember how you use to feel. Get out some old clothes and try them on. Someone told me its not a bad eating day, just a bad eating moment. Just because we choose to eat a bag of cookies at a sitting, doesn't mean the whole day is shot. Lesson learned and go on with it. I need to remind myself of this all of the time!:)

Jasmine31
12-13-2006, 09:43 AM
Good morning everyone! Guess who is down another .50 a pound? Yep! You guessed it! Me!!! The scale says 209 this a.m.!!! Wheee!!! I am excited!!! Only 4 more til I hit my x~mas goal, I have 4 days so I hope I can make it! This means I am down a pound since sunday!! :carrot: It also proves I am losing on my low cal, higher fat, 1 tbs of real butter and cheese every day diet. Muahahahahaah! I am going to throw a few lower fat days in there too though just to balance it out though!

martiniforme
12-13-2006, 09:44 AM
Hey everyone. Sorry I've been MIA for a few days, but I've just been so unmotivated. Had a really bad-last-couple-of-days. Somehow, I still managed to get down to 267. I could have lost more, but with very little exercise, and bad eating as I've had, I'm shocked I lost at all!

Dolly: We all have those moments, but you said it right. That was yesterday, today is today. In the long run, it matters what we do with today.

I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow.

Jasmine31
12-13-2006, 09:57 AM
Martini! You are still down that is great! WHat have you been eating? Has it just been higher fat or really bad stuff like sugar and stuff? Like I said in an earlier post in Oct. I had alot of high fat days and lost 9.50 pounds. The next month my average walking minutes were up 20 minutes more per day and my fats were lower, I was doing really good but I lost like 7 pounds, kept 6 off due to turkey day. Anyhow its like I said I have been doing reading lately and it seems that the body does want the fat. As long as it comes from fresh sources not processed crap. I went a little more into detail a few pages back but anyhow so I am trying this. And I have been losing on low cal, higher fat. I am going to throw a few days of lower fat in there just to balance things out though. Good luck!

stopeating
12-13-2006, 11:46 AM
Jasmine way to go!!:carrot: You are doing fantastic. :D

stopeating
12-13-2006, 11:48 AM
Martiniforme - I'm sorry you haven't been doing well.:hug: A huge congrats on losing weight! :)

jcatron243
12-13-2006, 12:18 PM
Hi everyone Dolly I feel the same as you, I am unmotivated at the moment. I am still getting in exercise, but due to my darn illness I have been eating all the wrong things. :( If you stay with me we can do this together, I know we can.

Jasmine31
12-13-2006, 12:27 PM
Thanx stopeating! :D I am cooking some beans today and I heard about some low cal wheat tortillas on the forum...La Tortilla Factory. cholesterol free, no sat fat, no added sugar, non aluminum type baking powder, no hydrogenated oils, contains soy flour, no dairy

50 cals each, 2 fat grams, 11 carbs, 8 fiber, anyhow I can't wait to try them tonite!

Jasmine31
12-13-2006, 12:28 PM
Jennie! Come on! You should be eating a bunch of low sodium healthy soup! :D

jcatron243
12-13-2006, 12:30 PM
It seems for me that no matter how hard, or not hard I try I just cant seem to get past 163 :( I have settled on maintaining for the Holidays, because it just seems that I need to find that AHA moment. I am a little sad bacause today starts the 5th month of my journey and I have no motivation. I want to lose 26 more pounds (The number I like is 125 but I will wait until I hit my initial goal to see if I want to lose anymore. ) I am still getting in my exercise which know is my saving grace. Anyway, sorry this is a little depressing. Its just my mood, I am still sick and I don't want to go to the doctor because I want the $$ for christmas.

jcatron243
12-13-2006, 12:31 PM
Jasmine, I know what I should be eating, thats what got me down the most.

I WANT IT SO BAD!! (To hit my goal that is) Okay enough whining, it is time to do something about it.
MY PLAN:
1. I am going to find a picture of me, at the weight I want to be at. Put it in the fridge!
2. I am going to write a list of everything that got me motivated to begin with and read it every time I want to eat something that is NOT right.
3. I am going to go back and see what I did at the begining and follow that.
4. Most importantly I am going to forgive myself for the last few weeks. Get back on my bike, go for my walks, and rack up the exercise minutes.

Hun.e.B
12-13-2006, 01:05 PM
Coming up for air!! Ah I cannot wait till tomorrow is over!! Then I get to clean house, its amazing how filthy one little home can get when its neglected for a week.

I was supposed to go on a field trip with my daughter today. Cross Country skiing. I'll be honest and say I was petrified....I'd probably end up having a heart attack! This weight is not good! But it got cancelled due to weather...which actually works out better for me because I need those extra hours to study. I've got my last 2 finals tomorrow!

Sorry I'm not doing personals! But, I've really got to take advantage of the kids being in school and quiet house to study in. You are all in my thoughts though! Jasmine..I saw you lost WAY TO GO!!!

Have a wonderful Wednesday everyone!!

~melissa

loveandlaughalways
12-13-2006, 01:32 PM
:hug: I am soooo excited; I have been in a rut for sooo long not losing just maintaining and now I found the right combination between exercise and calorie counting!!

I lost 3 pounds this week!!!! :woohoo: :cheer2: :encore: My :goodscale was good to me this week. Thanks for all the :frypan: :kickbutt: and :dust: or I would have never made it through this last week! Thank you all for :grouphug: !! :D


Hang in there Jcat, :hug: I hear it gets harder the closer you get to your goal weight; I was told you have to eat even less and much more activities and increase the exercise even more, but you probably already knew that. Its great you are maintaining!! But just think of how healthy you'll be with all that activity in your life. It's tough when you are so sick. You might have to go to the doctor even though you don't want to if your not getting better. A typical cold if that is what you have takes about two weeks to get over. You know rest, rest, rest, WATER, and chicken noodle soup (helps sore throat because of the salt or you could gargle warm salt water)!!

Jasmine- those tortillas sound great where do you get them at. We are renting the cabin in Bear Valley. We have to hike up to it bringing all our food in the snow about 600ft from the main lodge. It will be work but an adventure too. We will stay three nights skiing one day and playing in the snow the others. :congrat: on the weight loss!

Martini-Hang in there girl!!:hug: You are such an inspiration to me!! :cheer2: :congrat: on the weight loss!! It's hard to stay motivated during the winter and the Holidays. Just get up and start moving; you'll feel so much better!! Here is some :dust: it helped me this last week.

Hi :wave: Hi stopeating, Ennay, Hun.e.B, and miafluker.

ennay
12-13-2006, 03:43 PM
just wanted to say hi, i have too much to say so i cant find time to say any of it.

Jasmine31
12-13-2006, 05:25 PM
Uh Oh I just lost my post!

Jeni: I think taking a break and maintaining is fine, but do not forget to exercise and eat right! Remember this is not just about losing weight, but also about being healthy and avoiding heart disease, diabetes and cancer! You can do it sweepie!! ;) And do not ever feel like you are dragginmg us down. You are not and I keep meaning to tell you that pic of you and your dh is adorable!

Hun.e.B:

Good luck on those finals. Thanx for the congrats. I will be in wonderland by next month! :D I would of been scared of skiing too! :lol:

loveandlaughalways:

I am soooo excited; I have been in a rut for sooo long not losing just maintaining and now I found the right combination between exercise and calorie counting!!

That is so awesome! How many cals are you averaging?

I lost 3 pounds this week!!!!

WTG!!!! Wheee!!!

Jasmine- those tortillas sound great where do you get them at.

I got mine at stater bros. in the fridge section, thank goodness cause the nearest health stores are hours (by bus) away!
This is the website. I am sure you can find them at your grocery store. Some of the girls on the forum were talking about them and I am sure they live in other states! :D

http://www.latortillafactory.com/jadworks/ltf/jwsuite.nsf/sitewelcome/Home

I'll tell ya how I like them tonite!

We are renting the cabin in Bear Valley. We have to hike up to it bringing all our food in the snow about 600ft from the main lodge. It will be work but an adventure too. We will stay three nights skiing one day and playing in the snow the others. on the weight loss!

Thanx for the props! The trip sounds like fun! I can't wait til we move and can go do stuff. Before we lost the car we went out to the nearest lake over here a few times and had alot of fun. We were planning on going for like 4 days in Oct with the kids but the car....

ennay:

Is the baby keeping ya busy? Hope everything is okay and post when you get time hun! :hug:

Jasmine31
12-13-2006, 05:33 PM
Okay so now it is time for my update! I am still doing great food wise. I am going to try to keep the fat grams a bit lower for a few days. Tonite is sp. rice and bean and cheese burritos! mmmmm!!!

Okay so I think I am in a 16 now!!!!!

Okay about a month and a week ago or so we went and there were tow pairs of 18 jeans, not stretch. One was Levi low rise and the other another brand. Well the other brand fit so I bought em and was happy cause I was coming out of 20-22's. The other 18 was not going to even button not even with sucking it in, a big gap in the middle! Ok, no problem. A couple weeks ago I go back and try them on again and they fit!! Hooray! I did not buy them cause I still didn't like the low rise. Well today I am killing time waiting for dh to meet me for lunch and I got brave and tried on the 16's. They are snug, but they fit!!!!!! Hooray!!!! I am so happy!!! And to think, a month and a half ago the 18's wouldn't even fit! I did not buy them but I seen a "little black dress" By that time dh had come and I tried it on and it fit nicely, it is adorable! I put it on hold and am going to get it tomorrow!!! When I get a chance I will take a pic and show it off. The dress will be for x~mas and what a great dress to show off in to my family. They are really proud of me(grandma and 2 aunt's. Last x~mas I was 250, I should be about 205 by this x~mas and the last time they seen me was a few months ago when I was 235!!!! SO 30 since then and they thought I looked great then!!

miafluker
12-13-2006, 08:48 PM
hi everyone! i caved and weighed today down another lb scale said 224.5!
i cant believe it i changed my eating alittle and i have been doing alot better on my water and working maybe my body went into shock:dizzy: i just hate to .5 but hey ill take it im going to try not to weigh until monday i dont want to get disappointed because today i ate 1 or 2 things i shouldnt an snowball at lunch and a hotdog with no bun only ketchup to go with my salad at lunch and im about to drink a slimfast for dinner because its soo late and i just got home from work due to bad traffic and really bad fog. I dont want to eat to heavy this late. Anyways.........congrats on all the weight loss and the effort everyone made so far this week Yipee to us:hug:
P..s i also have been taking biotin vitams- a B-vitamine that promotes healthy hair and nails i think that may have been giving the boost i need in the am's to wake up

loveandlaughalways
12-13-2006, 09:29 PM
Jasmine-Congrats on getting down to size 16!!! :carrot: I'd like to see that black dress. My average for the last 7 days was 1600 calories. I had two really high days 2450 and 1900, but I had some low 1200 days as well. I never went below 1200. I also up'd the exercise this month to an average of 60-90minutes at least 3-5 days per week. I got some lean cuisines and anytime I didn't know what to eat and was starving, I popped one of those in the oven or I put a frozen chicken on my hamilton beach grill and weighed out some frozen cut green beans. I am eating four to five times a day now, waiting at least 21/2 hours between each meal and drinking plenty of water during the day. I hope it works again next week. Maybe my body finally stopped holdiing onto the weight...I don't know it's working for now.

Miafluker-I have heard good things about B vitamins. :carrot: Congrats on the weight loss!!:carrot:

Calejo
12-14-2006, 01:31 AM
Hey all! I've been gone for almost a full week due to internet complications... sigh. All better now though and the mouth is healing nicely. However, I have had a set-back. I've been sick for the last week or so and haven't been working out or eating as well as I should've. I have gained 2 pounds... (poopy), but I'm determined to lose it and then some. At this point I have to seriously buckle down to make my goal or even get close to it. Wish me luck! I definitely have to get more organized and strict with what I eat and my excercise.

ennay
12-14-2006, 04:31 AM
morning..ish

Well havent been around much because Saturday while cooking my coop meal, I got a cut under my finger nail while tring to unwrap a bullion cube - the foil point stabbed me. hard to type without the first finger

Anyway, its been hurting A LOT but my son has croup so I've been ignoring it. Tonight I was at walgreens so I picked up some neosporin, thinking if it was infected this would help.

Wrong

the neosporin reacted with the infection and 3 hours later I was bawling on the floor it hurt so bad. Like 8 cm labor bad. So I went to the ER at a bit after midnight for a f'ing bouillion cube (why the **** do they not use granules?) That will blow the cost savings of the coop all to heck. Not to mention the humiliation of going to the ER for a paper cut. :o

gets a little gross here, TMI warning:

The neosporin reaction had created a puss pocket which was trying to rip my nail off. They lanced it (no f'ing pain meds dammit) and then tortured me while they bled it out. Gave me a tetanus shot and sent me home...still no goddang pain meds. Really kicking myself now for not taking that prescription after alex was born.

anyhow, trying to eat a little as I couldnt eat earlier from the pain and it is manageable now. I'm supposed to do epsom salt baths 3 x a day until the infection goes away.

On the silver lining side, I had been told by some friends when dd was little that the local ER didnt do pediatric under 2 or 3 years old. Found out that is not true, so if ever we need to go for something like the continual vomiting we can go to the close and deserted one. (Note, I am writing this at a bit after 1 am and I hadnt left my house until sometime after midnight - that is a deserted ER). Although for something serious I dont know if I would bother.

OK off to take my mega dose of ibuprofen and hopefully get some sleep before alex wakes me.

miafluker
12-14-2006, 07:21 AM
wow ennay sorry to hear that hope i get better i know about the ibrophen the military gives the 800mg for any type of pain even though it dosent help much.
get better soon off to do my work out ttyl

Calejo
12-14-2006, 10:37 AM
ennay, I'm so sorry you had to go through that, and I hope you heal up soon and fast!

I've gone down by one pound, so I'm at my starting weight. Grr. I have 4 more days 'til the big weigh-in. I've been doing my excercises and I have my meals for the day planned out. I'm good to go, now I just have to stick to it, get plenty of rest (still wrestling with the cold) and drink lots of water. I've gone back to writing down all the calories I take in, I'm sure that will help.

Jasmine31
12-14-2006, 11:42 AM
Mia:

That is great!! If you had treats yesterday just remember, nothing tastes as good as feeling thin feels! Don't feel bad about the hotdogs, I have those once in a while. I get the hebrew national ones now, maybe have it once or twice a month and they have like 2 grams of fat and only 50 cals each!

b vitamins are great! Take a multi vitamin one to!

loveandlaughalways:

Jasmine-Congrats on getting down to size 16!!!

Thanx hun! I am stoked!!!! I thought I would have to be under 200 to get there! Does anyone else remember when they hit a 16 how much they were?

I'd like to see that black dress.

Soon I promise! It really flatters my curves that is what dh said. ;) I am going to pick it up today at Target. It was $27.99, not bad at all! That is a nice lil perk to losing this weight. :D

My average for the last 7 days was 1600 calories.

That is great!!

I had two really high days 2450 and 1900, but I had some low 1200 days as well.

Thats how I do it too. I need to try to make sure to get some high cal days in this week too. Next week between my b~day, and the week after that with christmas won't be a problem. hahaha Then new years is my daughters bday. *sigh*

I also up'd the exercise this month to an average of 60-90minutes at least 3-5 days per week. I got some lean cuisines and anytime I didn't know what to eat and was starving, I popped one of those in the oven or I put a frozen chicken on my hamilton beach grill and weighed out some frozen cut green beans.

That is great! Well done!!

I am eating four to five times a day now, waiting at least 21/2 hours between each meal and drinking plenty of water during the day. I hope it works again next week.

I also try to do the smaller meals too. It really helps even if it is just a yogurt or some nuts.

Calejo:
Hey all! I've been gone for almost a full week due to internet complications... sigh.

Welcome back!!

ll better now though and the mouth is healing nicely

So glad to hear that! :D

However, I have had a set-back. I've been sick for the last week or so and haven't been working out or eating as well as I should've. I have gained 2 pounds... (poopy), but I'm determined to lose it and then some. At this point I have to seriously buckle down to make my goal or even get close to it. Wish me luck! I definitely have to get more organized and strict with what I eat and my excercise.

Could you be retaining water?

ennay:

I am so sorry to hear about all that! :hug: Do you have any ins. to off set that? I sure hope you feel better soon and I will be praying for you! WHo knew such a small thing could do that. Are you allergic to neosporin?

Calejo:

I've gone down by one pound, so I'm at my starting weight. Grr. I have 4 more days 'til the big weigh-in. I've been doing my excercises and I have my meals for the day planned out. I'm good to go, now I just have to stick to it, get plenty of rest (still wrestling with the cold) and drink lots of water. I've gone back to writing down all the calories I take in, I'm sure that will help.

Congrats on the pound! Drink lots of water!!!

Jasmine31
12-14-2006, 11:42 AM
11-25-06 Saturday: 214 pounds

46.5 on belly button ( I read somewhere else after this that you are supposed to suck it in! SO I did both the following week)

12-03-06 Sunday : 212 pounds

44 on belly button (So a 2.5 inch loss that week!!!)

{41 sucked in}

12-10-06 Sunday : 210 pounds

43 on belly button (So a 1 inch loss that week)

{ 39.5 sucked in, so a 1.5 inch loss on that!}

Oh and if anyone has the 411~info on sucking it in to measure vs. not then please let me know!

Jasmine31
12-14-2006, 11:47 AM
Oh and I think I forgot to mention I am down another pound this a.m.!!! Whooohoooo!!!! :carrot: That is two down since sunday!!!! Wheeeeeee!!!! only 3 more pounds til I hit my x~mas goal and that is 5 pounds down for the month!!! I will be in onederland next January hopefull the first part for sure!!!

jcatron243
12-14-2006, 12:06 PM
Thanks Jasmine. I am actually feeling great today. My philosophy now is I control myself. I eat what I want not the other way around. I just feel like trying to lose with the holidays is too much. If I lose I am not going to complain!!! I am eating right and exercising, I am just not restricting as much as I was.

We have a big storm coming so I have to get prepared. Candles, Flashlights, food, Cleaning. The storm is supposed to hit between 2pm and 7pm and last 12-15 hours So I have to get a move on!!

Congrats to Jasmine and loveandlaugh and mia for your losses :)

Melissa~I hope your finals all went Well!!

Calejo~I hope you get better and have a better week!! Take care!

Ennay~ You poor thing, I cant imagine why they didn't give you any pain meds.

Okay guys have a great day!!

ennay
12-14-2006, 12:37 PM
jasmine - dr Oz says to suck in, otherwise you are getting skewed data.

i'm all left hand typig now as i soak in epsom salts--it does feel a lot better

jas-yeah i have good insurance but er still means $50 copay

ok now to left hand mouise

congrats to all who are losing!

ennay
12-14-2006, 12:43 PM
oh!!! forgot my big news! I have a bodyfat scale. i dont know how accurate it is, but it is probably a good relative measure. This morning for the first time I broke into the 30's! 39.7% still a looong way to go but getting there!

Hun.e.B
12-14-2006, 02:56 PM
Just popping in quickly before I gotta run to the postoffice and the school. Finals are over!! Yay!! I'm a little disappointed I should end up with 4 As and a B...I know thats really good but I'm a 4.0, so Bs really dont fly well with me....can you say overacheiver? LOL!!

Anyway the reason I'm posting is...Jasmine, you are supposed to suck in when you do waist measurement because you arent looking to see how your muscles contract you are measuring your omentum (sp?) (waist fat)Way to go on another loss! You truly are my inspiration!

An I saw other losses too when I skimmed through posts...way to go ladies!! I'm so proud of you all for sticking to your goals!! You give me something to aim for!! Keep up the great work!!

I shall return!

~melissa

Jasmine31
12-14-2006, 05:17 PM
dang it i just lost my post again! Ill be back in a bit! :(

dollypie
12-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Thanks for all you chicks for the support and motivation. Well I am back on track and have plans to cook a healthy dinner tonight for dinner and then clean the house. Jcatron I know we can do this together! I know why I have been feeling so down in the dumps too, my parents divorced two years ago and my Mom is still struggling and it kills me to see what she is going through....depression. It is so hard to help someone who doesn't think she needs let alone even wanting help. I had a talk with DH last night and he thinks that I need to take care of myself and I agree with him. It is just hard to see someone in so much pain all the time. Thanks again girls all of you are so awesome and really inspire me.

Calejo
12-14-2006, 05:53 PM
ARGH!!! I don't know how much more of this I can really take... aside from my divorce, my car, which only had ONEmore month to go payment-wise, broke down! I am just about at my wits end! :cry: I want a hug from my boyfriend, but he lives in NJ. grr. I think it is now time to implement my world-domination back-up plan... :devil: I'll need a coconut, a paperclip and a piece of twine... hmmmmmmmm............... and McGuyver.

loveandlaughalways
12-14-2006, 11:16 PM
:hug: Calejo-doesn't that figure...your car paid off and now it breaks down. I bet every car has a sensor on it and knows when the last payment is coming. I'm so sorry I hope it is fixed soon.

dollypie
12-15-2006, 10:25 AM
Jasmine here is the link about the omentum

http://www.oprah.com/health/yourbody/youdocs/youdocs_20061129_102.jhtml

jcatron243
12-15-2006, 12:22 PM
calejo :hug: That sucks, just sucks.


Dolly, My parents divorced when I was 17 (about 12 years ago) It is still really hard for my dad (mom is remarried) Its always hardest around the holidays. Just be there for her, and let her know you love her.

We made it through the storm with little damage (thank god). The reports say we got 58mph gusts but I know there were several that made the house sway!! I am thankful that there were no 100mph winds. At work last night we listened to the police scanner and it was awful, so many accidents, a street light actually fell of its pole and went through a windshield of the car below. (I freaked a little, both my mom and her family and sister and her family have to drive that way. ) The kids and I are going to be gawkers today (well I'll gawk they will go along for the ride). I am going to check out all the damage to our little town. I am praying it is as little as possible.

ennay
12-15-2006, 12:39 PM
we were without power most of the evening and night, alot of trees down here, gusts ~ 70

loveandlaughalways
12-15-2006, 07:47 PM
I used to love the crazy weather and the high winds and thunderstorms as a child growing up in Oregon. The weather here is boring!!!

Calejo
12-15-2006, 08:02 PM
I got my car back today, yay! it still idles a bit rough somewhat, but it's driveable. I was sooo good today. I work in a bakery of a grocery store and we had our biiiig event "taste of the season". Every department has samples and gives out free food to everyone including the employees. I tried some Chai Tea and maybe one other thing, but nothing too bad! I was a good girl. :p woo! I am determined to lose it again, so I'm firing myself back up, thank god.

Update: I also did my 45 mins. of cardio. Harder workout than ever before! I usually dance for that time. This time I jumped rope for the whole 45 mins. well, 40 mins. with 5 mins. of cooldown. But it was late, I wanted to say skip it.. (it was after 9pm) and I did it anyway. I'm glad I did too. :D

stopeating
12-16-2006, 08:18 AM
Good morning everyone! I've been MIA a couple of days. My dad's b-day was Thursday and we went out to eat. I did really good and ordered a salad. But then my son wouldn't eat his chicken and fries and I kept snacking until I ate his whole meal too! :o I was so mad at myself.

Then last night we had people over. I was good all day, but then we sat around the munchies into late in the evening and I ended up snacking all night. I tried to stick with fruit, but didn't make it. :(

Now I'm way to scared to weigh myself. I'm going to a 25 wedding anniversary today and my willpower is WAY down. I'm depressed. I'm going to ride my bike this morning for an hour. It's been a week since I've exercised. Hopefully that will help.

My cold is still hanging in there but it is getting better. :)

Calejo - I'm so glad your car was fixed!:) What a workout...Good for you!!:D

Loveandlaugh - If you like crazy weather, you should try Michigan.:) A foot of snow one day, rains for several days, getting into the 50's this weekend (unheard of) and maybe snow by Christmas. We actually want snow for Christmas but it's wacko weather. We will see.

Ennay and Jcatron - I'm glad you made it through the storm okay.:hug:

Dollypie - Great job getting back on track.:carrot: One day leads into a second, third, etc. :) You rock!

Hun E B - Four A's and a B???:D You should be very proud!

Jasmine - Three more pounds to go!!!!!!:carrot: You so motivate me.

ennay
12-16-2006, 07:58 PM
So....

Well I think i mentioned last week that my son had croup. I took him in on Monday for a bad cough and they diagnosed croup - treatment steam and moist air. Took him back Thursday because he wasnt any better, and they tried to do a pulseO2 on him and he was so wiggly they had a hard time getting a reading, but when they did it said 97% so they said, still croup, but gave him steroids expecting one dose to do it. When he wasnt better Friday we went back to the ped. This time he was asleep in the carseat when I got there and we did the pulseO2 while he was still sleeping. It started out 95-96% which isnt perfect but not bad for a cold and sleeping, but then it dropped to low 80's and back up to 90's and back down. It was showing a pattern of sleep apnea. The doctor came in and looked at the monitor and this time when we woke alex up she actually got to hear the cough (the other times he was stubbornly non-coughing) and then his O2 started staying in the mid 80's. So she put him on oxygen and an albuterol nebulizer and called an ambulance and we went to the hospital.

We did a second dose of albuterol on the way to the hospital. When we got there his o2 was around 88%, not good, but not scary, but somewhere over the next few hours the albuterol kicked in and it climbed back up to 97-100 when he was awake, but still 92 when he slept.

So we stayed the night and we got sent home with an albuterol inhaler. He tested positive for RSV which is really scary in a 10 week old.

He seems better now, but I am a little upset that as soon as we got home it seemed to get worse again. I am worried that maybe something in our house is irritating him.

Needless to say my diet and exercise for the week is pretty much non existant.

Top it off with dh and I just had a huge fight...arent we supposed to be relieved and supportive at this point?

JasonsLea
12-16-2006, 08:53 PM
Hi everyone! How is everyone doing? I'm doing great! I found my appetite suppressant: peppermints. See, I work in food service and those damn muffins and bacon ALWAYS get me! But today I took some of my mama's peppermints with me and whoola, not one sliver of bacon passed these lips. Peppermint and bacon just don't mix ya know? And I figure that the peppermints is better for me than the bacon. This post is very special. Why? Because this is my first post in this thread on my COMPUTER!!! We got it back from the shop yesterday and I am SO happy! Still a little bummed that I lost all that data but psyched cause it's like we got a brand new computer. I spent yesterday downloading updates and such.

stopeating
12-16-2006, 09:00 PM
Ennay I am so sorry. :hug: I'm so glad he is doing better. Does he have croup also? We went through that and everytime I took him to the hospital he would be better. They state it was the cold air outside and the car ride that would make him feel better so I started taking him for walks in the middle of the night. It is so scary and I feel so much for you.

I've had an ill child from day one and from experience I can tell you that fighting was pretty common in our home. It was so stressful on each of us to see him sick and it's always on the back of my mind.

They gave us a heart monitor also. It was hooked up to our son and if he had problems when he was sleeping, it would notify us immediately. The comfort was well worth the hassle. :hug:

miafluker
12-16-2006, 09:13 PM
Ennay im sorry your family is going through this. It seemed like my 9-month old was born with a congestion problem. She gets congested really easy and that was really scary the first couple of months because i thought she wouldnt be able to breath, for some reason it always acted up at night i had to start using an humidifer and add some essential oils like peppermint or eculpus to it. She still gets sick from time to time now that we moved to new orleans and the weather change is soo drastic. I wish you the best with your little one,
Sometimes stress can cause spouses to fight. My hubby and i fight alot more ever since we transitioned from military life, but sometimes it take thinking about how it was when he was gone overseas and how are relationship is normally. Men just do not seem to react to situations like women and right now I realized im still going through harmone changes even though im not going through post partum deppression i still have something my hubby says i havent been the same since he went to iraq while i was preg.
In short what im trying to say is that I understand to some point what your going through. Hang in there and we are here for you

loveandlaughalways
12-17-2006, 02:06 AM
hang in there Ennay!!:hug: Tough having to deal with a little one so sick and then an arguement with husband too!! My grandma always used to say "it will all work out in the wash."

I'm sorry your little one is so sick. I remember my oldest (he is now 13) having croup really bad as a youngster and asthma we later found he had milk and egg allergies. Thank God I was breastfeeding, I could only imagine if I wasn't because formula's main ingredient is whey! When we found out he was over a year old and just trying out cow's milk(he still got some milk products from me, but it was converted, and when we found out about the allergies from an allergist, I eliminated milk and dairy products using supplementation). When he was a year old, a small 1 oz cube of cheese made turn flush on his cheeks and he had so much mucous from his nose within 15 minutes that he couldn't breath. We had to read all the ingredients for bi-products such as lacto-albumin, whey, and casein and any egg products. We eliminated all dairy for 5 years retried him and he has been okay ever since. We still limit to some degree just out of precaution.

I don't know if this is useful...I just hope your baby is okay. Take care!!

loveandlaughalways
12-17-2006, 02:11 AM
I'm sure you know but, I also want to add that RSV is nasty for babies; RSV is an every day cold for adults, but very difficult and hard on babies. Which you may already know. Keep a close eye on your little one and call your doc if you feel there are any changes.

Jasmine31
12-17-2006, 04:23 PM
Everyone go here!

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1500152#post1500152

jcatron243
12-18-2006, 01:27 AM
Ennay :( I am so sorry your little guy is sick and had to have a trip to the hospital. My sisters little guy is having the same issues (he is 5 mo) Good luck and give him lots of loves!!

martiniforme
12-18-2006, 02:05 AM
Ennay: You're a bit of a "health nut" hehe, or so I've assumed/noticed. One thing I did learn with all the piercings that I've had is this:
If you won't stick it in your eye, why put it anywhere else?
My body piercer, Rob, taught me that. And he showed me studies they had done with various people who have had piercings in the past. So I tried it. These were my results:
Pain was more manageable, healing time (approx 6 months for the average piercing to be fully healed) was cut in half by 1/3, and it was cheaper!
What did I use?
1. Dr. Bronner's Lavender Soap (http://www.drbronner.com/index.html)
2. Tea Tree Oil (http://www.teatreeplace.com/)
3. Sea Salts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_salt)

Polysporin and Neosporin contain medicinal ingredients, some variations even contain codien, not to mention if you don't check for low phosphates, they can contain a high number of phosphates.

Just a tid bit of info for you :) I've had many, many piercings, majority of them being oral (center lip, corner lip, tongue, monroe, and medusa), and I LIVE by the above mentioned for most everything, and have had nothing but good experiences. At the very least, something you could look in to if you're interested :)

Sorry ladies, I responded to this one because it's an area that I pride myself in having studied quite extensively, and know a bit about. But be sure that I've read all of your posts :) Congrats to those who have lost, and chins up for those who are in a bit of a rut. We all have them (myself included, frequently!), and tomorrow is a new day :) If you've hit a plateau, there are a number of conventional (and unconventional) methods that you could look in to, ways to "kick start" your metabolism in to losing again.

I realize that I've been MIA. I was enjoying the free time I had to myself, but was enjoying it a little too much. I ate poorly, completely ignored my food schedule, and ingested far too many foods high in sugar. But DF is back, and I'm back on my "wagon." Not much more to report than that. Goal has changed for this challenge. To maintain, and lose what I can. No specific number, but I am definitely not going to come close to my goal. That's alright. I haven't gone above where I started, so for that I am thankful.

Hope you all had a great weekend!
~Mande