Support Groups - The Winning Losers Week of 9/10/06




AquaChick
09-10-2006, 10:52 AM
Morning Ladies!!!!!



Started a new thread....


AquaChick
09-10-2006, 11:06 AM
Amany- I'm glad I could give you some support. :) This is hard, it's maybe the single toughest thing I've ever commited to. I know you are commited too though, we all are. I'm proud of this group.

That being said, I did the raw diet yesterday, and I'm doing it again. I have a lot of cut up veggies left, so I'm going to eat them. I think it's working for me though. I don't miss anything really. The biggest issue I had was at after 6 PM I start thinking I should grab a piece of bread. I don't, but I fend it of with some sunflower seeds. I sprinkled some of Emeril's chicken rub on the seeds (it's just herbs and spices) and it was so good! They were spicy and garlicy, and it knocked that bread craving right out. I had a sugar craving each night as well, and I busted it with a banana. :cb:

I hope you enjoy the movie, it's always fun to get out with the Mr. :)

rkrs6673- Oh my gosh!!!! I am so proud of you!!!! :hug: That is fantastic. :)

Hun.e.B
09-10-2006, 12:44 PM
Good Morning everyone!! Are you ready for some football!!!? We sure are! I'm gonna make this quick because I need to get another chapter of finance read before the game starts.

Kenya....WOOOHOOOO!!! What an AMAZING accomplishment!! Girl, I'm so proud of you I could just scream! You've worked hard and its paying off!!! Way to go!!! I hope your test goes well!! I've got my first on Tuesday.

Amanda...I'm pretty sure that once I lose all my weight and get to where I want to be I'll need a tummy tuck myself. I've got a pretty bad apron. Its from having such big babies! Not something that I'd have to have but might want if that makes any sense.

Aqua....I just love you!!! I can always count on your enthusiasm!! You are doing so great! I'm glad the vegetables are going well for you!

Girls, I gotta tell ya, I did so well yesterday! I'm really proud of myself. I didnt overeat a darn thing. I skipped things I didnt need. I drank my water! I'm not even gonna think about exercise till after I see the doctor, I'm thinking I need to stop stressing about that because when I do and then dont or cant exercise I just beat myself up. So a Yay for me!

Okay off to get the wings marinating and finish my reading!! Have a great day today! Go broncos!!


Sugar-N-Spice
09-10-2006, 01:08 PM
Good Morning! Good Morning! It's football Sunday!!! I can't believe it's that time of year again, it means the remaining months will just fly by now.

What a night I had. Up n down, up n down.... I wish I would either be completely totally knock down sick or just be done with all this crap. My lungs are trying sooo hard to be productive and getting out whatever's in there but it's not working and I'm miserable. Not to mention, tired, cranky, and grumpy. Did I mention tired? :tired:

Kenya that is truly amazing!!! You have lost a teenager pretty much! Nothing can stop you now from losing the rest, you know how to do this! You're proof, slow and easy wins the race!!! Good luck on your test!

Amanda, I'm more than sure I will need some sort of surgery after all is said and done. When I lost all that weight in '01 I was shocked to see that my belly was shrinking and going down where I didn't think there would be much left hanging. However, this time around I don't think it's all going to cooperate! lol Having 3 big babies all by c-section has left me with quite a little apron. And lets not even talk about "the girls". Each pregnancy left me with huge gigantic boobs it was frightning..and then once they were born...they deflated like old party balloons. I nursed my first one and then ended up bottle feeding the other two. They were all so close in age, that I felt like I couldn't give all the attention they needed so I opted for the bottle. I shudder to think what my boobs would look like, had I nursed all 3. Probably scooping them up and throwing them over my shoulder, is what!!!!

Aqua, good luck with your veggie thing again today. It really seems to agree with you. So basically when you do this you don't get any protein in? Just be careful lady!!!

Melissa, WTG on a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet it sure felt good to feel in control. I knew you could do it! I think the smartest thing is to wait on the exercise and see what the doc says. Don't worry, I'll come find you at the starting line when he gives the green light. I promise!! Enjoy your time with family today!

Alrighty, well I have to get going and get dh off to work. After all the rain for the last 2 days today the sky is bright blue and gorgeous! I gotta go and pick up DD from her party later too, but first they were going swimming at the hotel one more time. Must be nice, huh? So anyways, everyone have a fabulous day and be good to yourselves. We have a new week, another new beginning if we need it, and our goals laid out before us. Let's do it right, shall we!?! :cheer:

OH. And. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil:

Amany
09-10-2006, 01:42 PM
Melissa!!! Congrats on an outstanding day! :cp: :cp: :carrot: :cp: :cp: You're rawkin' now girlfriend!! :dancer:
So an apron is what it's called. That describes what I have perfectly. I know the aerobics will help but, unless I have some other intervention, I think some of it will always be there.

Aqua - I'm glad you're liking the raw veggie diet. Switching up every now and then is a great idea. Hmm.... I think you may have influenced me some as well. I might do it once or twice a week. I think you may have started a trend here, chicky! ;)

Danielle - Oh hon, I hope you feel better soon. :hug: Just try to get as much rest as possible until you feel up to snuff. Have you tried a NyQuil or Tylenol PM in the evenings? Maybe it will help you sleep. Not that I'm into pushing meds, but sometimes you need them.

I just finished watching CFC. Angie Stone is sickening. Big time drama queen. Just the worst kind. Great tv though! Angie had Dr Ian so exasperated that I thought he was gonna turn into Harvey.
Speaking of the gp surgery! Wait until you hear Dr. Ian's comments. He said the same things that we did. Ladies, we're pretty darn smart. :smug: Of course Carnie got mad, but the some of the things she was saying today also confirm what we've been saying. I won't be specific. I don't want to ruin it for anyone.

Ok, I think I have a fitness video addiction. :dizzy: In the past week I've ordered Cardio Pilates, Super Callanetics and Leslie Sansone's Fat Burning 4 Mile Walk (which includes some jogging!! :D ). I'm gonna try to chill the purchases for a moment. :lol:

Amany
09-10-2006, 02:13 PM
By the way...

Thanks for getting us started again for a new week AquaChick! You and Melissa always take care of us. :)

I almost forgot!! Hope your walk went well Liz!!!! We're all very proud of you. :grouphug:

Amany
09-10-2006, 02:25 PM
Oops, I forgot...

AquaChick, I think the sunflower seeds are a great choice for the evenings. They have fat and protein. Plus they're a little salty. They're good for fending off those evening cravings.

AquaChick
09-10-2006, 02:51 PM
Hun.e.B- Hi! :) We have the Sunday ticket, so husband is glued to the T.V. for the remainder of the day. Tomorrow is the Vikings game, and that is our team, so he will be glued to Monday night football as well. Yep, it's a very big deal in this house as well.

Thank you for the sweet compliment. I wouldn't have made some crucial changes in my lifestyle if it wasn't for this group. I didn't know how important human contact could be for losing weight, but it has been the only thing that actually worked for me. Keeps me going every day. :grouphug:


Good job watching the intake yesterday. That's great. Yeah, don't hurt yourself. Hopefully tou will be well enough soon to get in some excersise. :hug:


Sugar-N-Spice- Hi! :) Sorry your so sick right now. :hug: Poor thing...
Yep, the veggies are sitting okay with me. I think I am getting some (a small amount albeit) protein from the nuts I'm eating. I've been drinking 1% milk and a serving of yoplait too. I guess that is vegetarian (dairy is okay), rather than vegan (nothing from an animal), but all the fruits and veggies are raw. I don't feel weak or anything, which I thought I would. No headaches, nothing...as of yet. The worst of it is after 6. That was when back in the old days I would eat ice cream or want some fast food. I've had to beat those cravings down with other things, but once I get the better choice in my system it calms me down. That has been the worst. When those "addictive" cravings come into play. I have to fight hard.

Goals for the week, well , I'd have to say, I've been wishing for a month to be in the 160's. I think I might get my wish by Friday. My cycle has arrived, and when it is over I do believe it will reflect on the scale. I think that might have played a part in why the scale didn't move at all for me last week. I have changed my excersise plan, Amany has inspired me to learn to jog. It has been incorporated into my walking routine, and it is plaenty intense. I have changed my diet to consist at least 2-3 days a week of fresh and raw fruits, veggies, milk, and yogurt... I will do it more though if I feel I can. It's been good to me so far. Why stop a good thing?
I think these changes have made it realistic for me to say my goal for Friday is 169 pounds, and to not give up.

Oh, and GO VIKINGS!!!!!! ooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

;)

Amany- I think it would be cool if you gave it a shot. I have been using spices and herbs, lime juice, and it makes it more interesting. I don't use and salad dressing at all. I make pico de gallo, slice up avacados, and I have been counting on fruit to knock out sugar cravings, nuts help with bread cravings. Today is my 3rd day in, and I'm not feeling bad. The worst is fighting old habits, which have nothing to do with hunger, it's all in the mind. I've accepted it might take years to get rid of compulsion cravings. I've also accepted that I may always have to battle with them, as long as I keep coming out in the lead I'll be okay.

I might "need" a tummy tuck someday. I have a deep "zipper" scar from my belly button down. I have adhesions so it is very deep. A doctor I had before actually gasped when she saw it. :( The women in my family have a hard time giving birth, four of us have these scars. My Aunt said hers was exactly like mine, and the adhesions snapped one day, causing her a hernia that was painful as all get out. She ended up getting a tummy tuck. She was sick of her stomach looking like a butt as well. I have high hopes that I can work my abs enough that it isn't so bad, but I don't think there is a lot I can do. Another doctor said they could cut the scar tissue so that it won't be so sunken in, but it will come back eventually. Anyway that's my apron story... it's more of a butt than an apron, but the same concept of weird skin on the tummy.

Oh, we might have to sit to coffee talk and discuss CFC and FOL later. lol...
We are smart. We are working hard, we are trying to educate ourselves on what it really means to get real and get healthy. We have also learned from our past mistakes, so we are very smart when it comes to being overweight and trying to change. We know what time it is. :D Where's my clock? lol...
Wow, you are a workout machine... you're making me feel lazy... lol!!!

No problem starting the thread, and thanks for the thumbs up on the sunflower seeds...

Sugar-N-Spice
09-10-2006, 04:24 PM
Yep, I forgot to thank you Aqua for getting our new week started! I guess I was all in a big ole hurry to start my whining, huh?

Amanda, you are certainly enjoying your new stuff! Its always fun to have different stuff to try. I was thankful to have a variety this last week, it kept me from blowing it off. Altho the last few days I haven't felt like doing any cause of this stupid cough. LMK how you like the new Leslie! I like her stuff a lot.

The apron thing is not fun. I wonder if its an inherited thing? My mom has it too? What really sucks is with my firts baby, my incision became very infected. The experience was so horrific I actually cried when I ended up needing another c-section with my 2nd. The one area that was infected the most, still to this day, gives me issues. It will ache and then itch like the dickens. And I'm sure having this glamorous designer apron on my front doesn't help! I wonder :chin: if I could get insurance to cover it since medically I do have problems still? Something to think about.

Aqua, I think its great that you like your eating right now. So important that we love what we're doing!

Oh yeah! Amanda thanks for reminding me about Liz! I hope that walk of yours was a good one!! And that you felt strong throughout it, most importantly!!!!

Definitely gonna have to go buy some medicine. Either that or I think dh may stick me outside! LOL

AquaChick
09-10-2006, 04:36 PM
Awww, you gals... it's no biggie who starts the thread. :grouphug: Thank you for the appreciation.

I think difficult birthing can be a family thing. My Aunt, Mother, Sister, and me have all had to have emergency cesarians with a classic cut. (up and down). It's awful. :(

Like you, my sister's became infected and she still struggles with it. She went through **** with that, it can be deadly. Mine healed very well without any infection (had it done twice) both times, but the scar tissue underneath is ridiculous. It causes pain if I sit down too hard and at "other times". I think you know what "other times" probably is. It's because the scar tissue pulls on the internal organs that it is attatched to. I think insurance should cover something if it will relieve you of pain and problems, but this isn't how it goes usually.

needhelp27
09-10-2006, 07:45 PM
Hey ladies,

I just wanted to say that I think you are all amazing and just reading what you write to eachother is so inspiring and so sweet. I just wanted to tell u that I applied online to a college today and i'm really excited. I just can't believe i am graduating this year! Well 183 school days, but who's counting? ahahaha.:cool: Anywho, just wanted to tell you cuz I was excited but now im not cuz I have math homework to do:mad: :( but hope to talk to y'all soon!!

Take care, Heather

Amany
09-10-2006, 08:05 PM
Hello Lovelies.

Aqua - I got all my stuff together for my 2 day vegan eating plan. I won't use that "d" word. :nono:
I have some soy sausage patties and almonds for protein. I bought avocados to make guacamole. I'll use it to dip my veggies when I want dip or something to put atop my salad. Plus strawberries to eat with my soy sausage in the mornings. I have baby carrots, zucchini (love it raw), broccoli and cauliflower. I'm ready! I think I'll have the yogurt too. I always drain it first though to make yocheese.

Hi Heather. I just love it when you drop in. Please keep us in the know about your college choices. I just know you're going to really enjoy your senior year.

Danielle - Can't wait to get the new Leslie! There are times that I think I'm bored with her stuff, but I always go back. Especially in the mornings when I don't like having my body jerked around. I like my exercise simple and challenging. Now when I do the Leslie Sansone videos, I make my movements bigger and kick higher. That way I get more out of them.
I really hope you feel better tomorrow. Don't you hate it when you get into your exercise grove and then get sick. But fear not! You'll be able to get back into the fire (Harvey talk ;) ) soon enough. I hope you sleep better tonight. We don't want hubby putting you out!

I can't wait until every watches CFC and FOL today. Both shows were just just fan-friggin-tastic!!
Thankfully we didn't go to the Pork House today. I'm not really much of a pork person. Sometimes I even hate to smell it cooking. We had Middle Eastern instead. It's really healthy too. It's my favorite next to Mexican. Still didn't see the movie. Hopefully next weekend. :( I don't know why my husband and I bother to make plans. We usually end up doing something different.

Hun.e.B
09-10-2006, 08:30 PM
Good afternoon lovelies!!! My boys didnt pull it off, that Ram defense was just too big and too tough, put way too much pressure on Jakey and boy oh boy did it show! Ouch!! Oh well, on to next week! Thanks you thank you all for the congrats on yesterday! Today is another story but I knew it would be, Sundays will be my "free" day. I'm hoping that once I get things going better I'll be more inclined to make better choices for football snacks. CFC and FOL doesnt come on here till later tonight!

Danielle...ugh woman I cant believe you are still sick!! Did you get that musinex? I'm so sorry that you've got to deal with this on top of everything else! Get better would ya! I'm lucky I think my "cold" was smoke related. Seems to be better already. Battle of the Mannings..ugh I'm so sick of hearing about them!! The media is so ******ed, one lady today says "and peyton says that the outcome of the game wont change their relationship at all" well DUH! did anyone think it would? I mean they are brothers for goodness sakes, they've most likely been playing each other their entire lives! this will be fun for them! Okay enough football ranting LOL!!

Amanda...yep its called an apron. Mines pretty bad, I cant believe I'm gonna put this out there but okay I will...LOL...if I have to run or do any jumping you can literally hear it flap!!!! Me and jumpingjacks...yeah we dont mix! LOL! But I had a c-section and my babies were 9 pounders so thats what I get!

Aqua...we've got sunday ticket too, my dh hasnt missed a bronco game since the 70s...yes he's addicted! LOL! Nuts are a GREAT source of protein and good fats, soy products as well but I've never acquired the taste for it. You are going to reach that goal of 160s very soon!! I cant wait to see that post!!!

Heather!...hey girl!! Great to see you!! So college thinking time already huh! Where would you LOVE to go?? I'm about to do some finance homework myself..fun times huh! LOL!! come back soon!


Dont forget to wear your red white and blue tomorrow in remeberance of 9/11! I'm off to get my homework done so i can finish off the night of football. Back on plan tomorrow!!

~melissa

TriciaK
09-10-2006, 09:16 PM
;) Well girlie girls..... Had the weigh in and I did really well. Since I started the diet, I am down 11 pounds. I couldn't be happier. They wanted to do my measurements, but I wasnt ready for an update on that yet. I asked them to wait until I got to 190. I think then I will see a real difference in all my clothes and everything. Now if I could just get myself exercising, I would see the flab start to tighten up. I have set a goal for myself of at least three times this week. I want to set a goal that I know I can reach... so I think I should be able to accomplish it!!!!

So proud of everyone and all their great accomplishments! I want to say, that I couldn't be happier or prouder of the women in this group. You are a constant support and a great pick me up. You make me laugh and I am so happy to share in your accomplishments.:hug:

Thank you for being here for me! I am a lucky girl... Well, I am going to do some laundry, make lunch, and get ready for CFC and FOL>.. Have a great night and an even better week!!!:D

Hun.e.B
09-10-2006, 09:21 PM
Way to go Trish!!!! You are doing so GREAT!!! I cant wait to see how many inches are gone with those lbs! And you'll see too, that once you start exercising the inches will really start falling off. Probably faster than just lbs. You can totally do 3 days this week!! I know you can! the first day is the hardest, once you can do that one you are cruising!!! You can do it!!! Have a great evening!

~melissa

AquaChick
09-10-2006, 09:22 PM
needhelp27- Hi! :hug: I think it is so exciting that you are applying to some colleges! I'm proud of you girlie. I know you can do anything you put your mind to. You are young, and the world is your oyster.


Amany- You're right. The "D" word is a four letter word. You are definately ready for your day tomorrow. I hope it goes as good for you as it has been for me. I like adding the yogurt. The milk, I don't like so much (I hate milk), but I drink it because I need the calcium and it adds a few more calories that I probably need. It's kinda tough to get enough calories when it's all raw fruits and veggies. I get pretty full on apples and stuff.

I'm glad you didn't go to the pork house. That clogs my arteries, and raises my blood pressure just saying it... :lol: My husband is a big bbq pork lover. He has a special place as well, the logo is a pig...a pig roasting something over an open pit... :rolleyes:

I only caught the end of CFC earlier, so I'm gonna watch here in a bit, but I did see all FOL... you're darn tootin' it was FAN FREEGIN' TASTIC!!! :carrot: I'm so hooked on celebreality.


Hun.e.B- My husband wants to go to Minnesota in November to catch a Vikings game. He's trying to lure me with the "Mall of America" as part of the trip. Before we met he took his Mother and brothers to a game... lol...

TriciaK - Hi! :) I'm so proud of you!!!! I hope my weight moves too! That is so cool, 11 pounds is a big accomplishment!

TriciaK
09-10-2006, 09:49 PM
Thanks Melissa.... MY fiance says that if you do something 17 times it becomes a habit.... so that means once I get started it is all that much closer to being a habit... ha ha....

Tricia

TriciaK
09-10-2006, 10:31 PM
Thanks Aqua... I couldn't have done it without all of your help and support. Let's hope for 11 more in the next 3 weeks!!!

Tricia

needhelp27
09-11-2006, 12:56 AM
Hey

Wow, I just did 3 hours and 45 minutes of just math 11 homework! i think my brain is gonna explode! This isn't even the hardest stuff! ughhhhhhh:mad: :( :eek: Anyways, im sorry I havent posted lots, i read what you all say but sometimes I just dont have time and now that i have tons of homework every night I might only be able to post on weekends.

I'm getting really annoyed at this Turbo Jam thing, it hasnt even arrived yet, my mom paid an extra $23.00 for it to ship in 2-5 days and its been about 3 weeks! I'm so mad! I have been exercising a bit but I was waiting to go all out on Turbo Jam but now i'm not sure i will ever get it. Everybody think good thoughts that it will arrive soon!!!!

Anyways, i'm off to do more homework (not math tho, thank god!) its easier stuff. Hopefully i can post before the week is up otherwise everyone have a great week and you ALL CAN DO IT!!!!

love ya,

Heather

brat_61886
09-11-2006, 01:34 AM
Hey Ladies- nothing all that new going on. i bought the fatsmash book today out of curiosity and i'm thinking about doing it. no meat for 9 days. thats really rough! oh well maybe it will help me quit meat all together. I really dont like eating meat when i think about how the animals are treated and i just read somewhere that we eat way to much meat. I dunno maybe ill start liking tuna or something. Well ive learned to keep my opinions to myself this weekend. my best friends bf is a totally jackass and says things like he can do better than her and get someone prettier, but when i said i really dont want him going to australia with us because i dont want to put up with their bs that is going to happen and that i would knock him out, she got pissed. I'm now considering going alone. I'm not scared of going alone and honestly after the year and ahalf i'm going to have with school, trying to lose all this weight and i'm hoping to be down to 140 by next summer, get my plastic surgery and be looking really hot at xmas for my trip, i'm going to really need the peace and to just relax and have fun.

Melissa- lol yeah i'm ready for football. but i only do the college teams and well i only watch my college team. hopefully we will do better this year!!!

Danielle- i'm sorry u dont feel good. sometimes drinking lime juice straight from the lime helps break up all the nasty stuff and bring it out. you might wanna try it. feel better tho! Nyquil PM will knock u out if u cant sleep tho.

Aqua- omg okay so now i never want to have kids!!!!! honestly i watch those shows on tv where people ae giving birth and i dont think i could ever do that. I think i would just have a c-section instead. being a mom scares me to death. i honestly thinks its the main reason why i dont sleep with guys. I'm so scared of being a parent. My parents didnt raise any of their kids. My mom has 4 including me and then my dad has 3 not counting my moms kids. then u see those nanny shows with the kids going crazy. i couldnt handle it. but at the same time i dont really believe in abortion. i mean i dont judge those who have had them but i know i couldnt do it. but anyways i'm going to need a tummy tuck too. i wish they would invent something to get rid of stretch marks already!!!!!

Needhelp- thats awesome that ur applying to college. its really hard. this is my second year and its sooo hard to not go out and party. goodluck and i hope u get in to where u wanna go!

Amanda- i dont think ive ever had middle eastern food. what exactly is it???

Trish- thats soo awesome!!! keep it up!!

okay so my take on CFC and FOL. okay Angie stone really needs to shut the F up already. seriously i probably would have slapped the girl by now. how does she expect to get better if she doesnt move her butt!!! my load i do a lot of activity and i cant breath. its called being out of shape!!!! Tina is like my favorite. She reminds me of me. she is like a mamma and that what i was in highschool. many phone calls at 2 in the morning from people crying and ya.
okay so FOL to me has just gotten trashier today. i would have been kicked off the show for beating new yorks butt.
lol okay so see why i need the spiritual books? people like angie stone that whine and ahve an excuse for everything drive me crazy and the same for people like new york who think they are better than everybody. i must accept i cannot change anyone but myself and hope to god if i ever run into people that like that he holds me back and gives me a lot of patience!!! okay i'm going to bed. night chicas...
i'm a really nice person although u cant tell from the CFC and FOL!!!!

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 09:22 AM
Good Morning Ladies!!! :coffee:



brat_61886- Hey sweetie! No, that's what we are complaining about, the "apron" from excess weight and the apron and scar from a c-sections. My c-section was painful! It was an emergency, so that's why it's such a bad scar, and it's so visable. No meds during the procedure either, all they did was put a gas mask on my face so I could pass out for a minute while they did the surgery. I felt the whole thing about 15 minutes later when I woke up and no amount of morphine could fix it. I am all for natural birth. It is natural, it heals better, etc... I don't think any healthy woman that can give natural birth should opt for a c-section. It can be risky.

Don't worry about being a Momma. It comes naturally. :hug:

needhelp27- Shooo, you've been busy!!! Bummer about the turbo jam. :( Take it easy sweetie.

Butterfly50
09-11-2006, 10:00 AM
Hello Ladies Jest wanted to check in have some bad news iam back up to 280 as of this morning. The back of my knees are hurting. They hurt alot to bend them for a lenght of time. I have to get back on plan 100 % I dont want to be like my sister and confinned to a wheel chair the rest of my life because I wouldnt lose weight and it totally hurt my knees. Well Better run have meeting at the school.

miafluker
09-11-2006, 10:05 AM
hi everyone how are you doing so far
needhelp27 i know how you feel im waiting for my turbo jam and booty ballet
i guess i have to have patience and that is something i dont have


Butterfly50 dont worry weight changes like that i had gained 2lbs last week but my hubby has been telling me that my stomach is going down and i noticed a change also
i tell you i think the scale is pretty discouraging

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 11:04 AM
Butterfly50- Good Morning!
Hey, try not to let the scale get you down too much. :hug: I hate the dreaded evil scale. I didn't go down at all this week, and I workout every day. I agree with you, excersise is important, but if your knees are gonna blow out- you have to think of something else you can do. (I'm sure you got that figured out of course lol...) I think at this point, if I were in your position, I would talk to my doc about this when I get the chance and see if they have some helpful advice, cut down my calories a little more ( I know it's hard, but you have a really bad situation here), and make the most of when I could do a small walk. You're really in a pickle, because when the knees are messed up it really makes weight loss even more difficult than it already is- but if you don't lose some weight it will make your position worse. I know this is hard, but we are here for you and I know you can still do this. I feel for you so much right now. I have known many people I care about that have had knee problems. I have seen a grown manly man actually cry because of knee pain. Even if the weight moves slow, with every ounce that comes off that is less pressure on your knees. We know you can make it through this.

miafluker- Good morning! I'm doing good this morning. :) Everyone's talking about this turbo jam, and now my curiosity is peaked. I am gonna have to take a looksy at those dvd's.

Hun.e.B
09-11-2006, 11:15 AM
Good Monday Morning lovelies!! Just flying by quickly, I used up my posting time this morning being glued to the tv watching memorials. And now I gotta get my little one off to school. Cant wait to dish about FOL!!! OMG it was so good! I'm rooting for NY now all the way!! Is it just me or did she get prettier? I dunno, she just seems softer, less dragqueenish. And maybe i'm completely off my rocker but she seems to suit flav. I wont even get started on Angie Stone and her "mentally I run on the treadmill" yeah well honey if mentally was all you had to do I'd be doing 5 hours on the elliptical everyday!!! Oye!!

Anyway I had to wish you all a FANTASTIC day!! I'll be back this afternoon, after grocery shopping to check on you all, so be good!! Have a wonderful day!

~melissa

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 11:29 AM
Hun.e.B- Good morning! :) New York has lost weight, and it appears that she has spent quite a bit of time in the gym. She's as wicked as ever... but I love it. You know, NY has an attitude, but- she has an understanding about a lot of things that most of these girls don't "get". I start to dislike her, then when they get her alone and she starts stating her point I think, "okay NY is cool". lol... I would prefer to see her win over any of the others, but we need to see what else unfilds. I have a tendancy to change my mind from episode to episode.

miafluker
09-11-2006, 12:05 PM
i know this is long but please read....

oh yea fol will be more interesting they have the most evil chicks up there now except deelishis but i think her attitude is about to change i predict that crazy or buckey will be the next to go then it will be only ny, boots, and dellishis left what a combo
im watching the memorials for 9-11 also it amazes me because i didnt really know about the plane that crashed in p.a. the ones in ny stuck in my mind... its depressing for me because im from n.y. so this is my homestate,even though i was living in north carolina at the time also my hubby is from new orleans his parents just finished rebuilding... but its the fact that in august is my hubby's anniversary when his family lost everything and sept is when my family was effected by a terrible action
i understand this is depressing but i have to watch this because sometimes i lose focus on what my husband is defending and why he had to go to afganistand and iraq but i tell you i am so proud of him

anyway i dont really want to talk about all that im determined not to cry today plus i have to keep my spirits up my best friends 23rd b-day is today

i do ask for you guys advise my hubby is talking about staying in the military as an active reservist to do aviation i have mixed emotions how can i support him and keep my feeling seperate i know it may be the best move but its scary as well guys i dont know what to think what would you do?

Amany
09-11-2006, 12:45 PM
Ok *rubbing hands*. Let's get down to it!

Celebrity Fit Club:
Angie is so full of crap it's not even funny. That said, I really want her to stay on the show because she makes good tv. Can you tell how much Ted is disgusted by her? I was also glad to see Dr Ian and Carney get into about the gp surgery. Right after getting into it with him about the surgery, she proved him right after weighing in. Also, I hate to say it, because she's likable, but I don't think the former Baywatch babe (I always forget her name) is going to be able to find the same type of work anymore. She's still a very beautiful woman, but her industry embraces and celebrates youth. I hope I'm wrong though. Lastly, isn't Tina doing an awesome job? Do you see how toned she's starting to look? She's working her behind off.

Flavor of Love:
Up until the last few episodes last season, I hate NY too. But then I was thinking that she's perfect for Flav. He obviously likes dramatic over the top women that are loyal and "real". That's her. Plus she's obviously no dummy. She knows when it's appropriate to clean up her act and be a lady; but she can get down and dirty with the best of them. I don't know where they got those women from this season, but it's like they went to the depths of the worst gutter imagineable and got the worst ones. NY makes them look even worse because she's so well put together.
The only one I can say I liked this season was the blond girl that he said wasn't right for the show. She wasn't willing to be skanky like the others. I sort of liked Beautiful because she seemed kind of reserved and classy. She definitely should have told him about the cold sore though. It was inconsiderate of her not to. Krazy is really pretty, but I don't really have a handle on her personality. She reminds me of the girl Flav sent home last season because of her "issues". Remember? She was the one that was still in love with her ex-husband.
As much as I love NY, and hope she wins, she was wrong to attack Krazy the way she did. She crossed the line there. Unless your defending yourself or a loved one from harm, there's never a reason to become physical. I'll bet Krazy is the only one she feels intimidated by. I can't wait too see NY's mom again! :lol3:
NY is a lot smaller. She has a blog on MySpace that I used to read on occasion. She was on this weird eating plan. In the morning she drank coffee and smoked and her one meal per day was a Lean Cuisine with a cup of frozen veggies added. I seriously think she has eating issues. Remember the way she would binge last season? Remember the way her mother was riding her about her weight. In front of other people too. Her mom is quite a piece of work. She looks like a horse, doesn't she? :lol:

Hi Britt! First of all I don't blame you for not wanting to go to Australia with your friend's boyfriend. Life is too short to put up with all that crap. I have a very good friend that lives in Mississippi. I We've been friends for about 13 years and I have never visited her because of her abusive husband. She goes to the National Baptist Conventions most years, so sometimes I'll meet her for a few days in whatever city she's in.
Middle Eastern food is great. A lot of the dishes are in Greek restaurants too. Most of the ones I go to are Lebanese. Some of the more popular dishes are Shawarma, Gallaba, Taboule, Grape Leaves, Shish Kabob, Baklava (dessert), hommous and Pita sandwiches. They use a lot of lamb and a lot of the restaurants have really good almond rice. If you ever find yourself in one, and are splurging, make sure you get some of the garlic spread with the pita bread. I could eat that stuff by itself. All day! Middle Eastern would mainly fall into the Mediterrean (sp?) food category, I think.

Aqua- I'm with Britt. You guys made a strong case for adoption yesterday. :eek: :lol:
It's still very early, but I'm enjoying my vegan eating plan so far. This morning I had 2 soy sausage patties with about 8 strawberries. I brought two little baggies with me today that each have 25 almonds. For lunch I have some cut up veggies and guacamole. I think my digestive system will love the 2 - 3 day break.

Bonnie - I was starting to have problems with my knees too. Since strengthening my legs and losing weight, my knees haven't given me anymore problems. I can even do lunges now. I'm not saying that my problem was the same as yours, but if you're able to go back to the walking that might help. Like Aqua said, the more weight off of them, the better.
Don't worry about going back up. It's a temporary situation and you had a lot going on. Don't even give yourself time to dwell on it.

Melissa - Yeah that mentally on the treadmill comment got to you, me and everyone else too! :lol: Did you see the Panel's expressions? Not ony has she irritated them, but she's getting on the nerves of the other participants as well. I knew Angie Stone was going to be a mess. Every now and then I'd read some article she'd done. This was years ago. She always came across as having a lot of self-pity and being somewhat dillusional. One of the things in particular that got on my nerves was how she'd go on and on about why she felt D'Angelo left her.
In case you never heard of him, D'Angelo is a singer. She's probably 10 years older than he is. Anyway, she would make these statements about how she felt he left her because the industry wouldn't accept his being with an older, heavy-set woman. I know that could very well be true, but D'Angelo was also a very young man when he'd gotten involved with her. And he was an up and comer whose career was taking off and he was getting a lot of female attention. I would venture to say that most men in their early twenties would leave a girlfriend under those circumstances.
I remember the very last interview I ever read about her. She was talking about how it took her 4 years to get over D'Angelo and that he'd never find a woman to love him the way she did. GET OVER IT ALREADY!! Sheesh! :rolleyes: Anyway, the woman is a perpetual victim. Anytime I've seen her give an interview, she's always talking about how victimized she is. No one understands her, blah, blah, blah.... We all have issues, but I can't stand those celebrities that always want total strangers to feel sorry for them.

Well, I'd better go. BBL

Amany
09-11-2006, 12:58 PM
Sorry Mia. I missed your post.
I can completely understand why you wouldn't want your husband to be a reservist. I have no idea how to advise you though. That's just way too tough. Of course you should voice your concerns to him. If he's ****-bent on doing it though, I think you should just support him as best you can. If you can't change his mind. Wow, that's a toughie... Sorry. I'm not much help with this one.

Yeah, all the coverage is sad. When it happened I was depressed for weeks. It wasn't until my nieces demanded to be taken to the movies and out for a good time that I snapped out of it. They were little kids then and, as far as they were concerned, fun was still important. They were just what I needed. I doubt if it would have been so easy had NY been my home state though. It makes me angry though, when people act as if they've forgotten 9/11 ever happened.

Then your husband's family is from New Orleans on top of it. You guys are dealing with a lot. :hug: Did you or he lose any family members?

I don't have a lot to offer, but I can certainly lend you my ear (or eyes for reading) when you need to vent. This is a great place to do it.

Sugar-N-Spice
09-11-2006, 01:05 PM
Hey guys. Just little ole me slumpin along this morning......... my stomach is sooooooo sore from all the coughing I've been doing. It really feels like I've been doing crunches for days. Ugh!!!! I took Nyquil last night and I guess I slept okay. I forgot to set the alarm this morning tho so woke up like a wild woman running around getting the kids out the door in time. I still feel like I was up all night coughing, so I dunno. I am way tired still.


:wave: & :hug: to everyone! I really don't have the patience at the moment to sit for personals so I'm giving everyone a big hug and be good wishes for this morning. I'm gonna rest as much as I can, DD has a rehersal tonight with the high school band for 3 hours. The middle school is playing with the high school on Friday night for the football game, so they have to practice practice practice! Ugh, I hope I don't pass out! :faint:

See you girls in a little while..............

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 01:09 PM
*wiggles into chair and cracks knuckles*


CFC- I love Carnie, I really do- BUT- she was soooooo out of line saying the rude comment to Dr. Ian. He has assisted on gastric bypass. He understand nutrition and how the body absorbs and moves food. Shame on her for that. I was quite pissed that she would call him irresponsible for his advice. Shame shame.

Angie makes me so mad. I would hate to have her on my team. She better not screw Harvey over. He wants to help her. She wants someone to kiss her !@# all the time, and she needs to get over it and get real to the fact that if she doesn't start working on it --it isn't about teamwork or prizes... her life is at stake and they all know it. Except her. :(

I love Ted, he looks so handsome!!! Wow!!! Go Ted!!! *wolf whistles*

I love Tina, she has been fair and square, she is really coming together. I compete against her, she is the same frame as me. She beat me this week. Again. :(

Totally agree about the Baywatch lovely. I do think she could portray someone in a movie, but hottie doesn't come to mind. You are right hon, you gotta practically be a fetus to get those kinds of roles anymore.

I love Crusher. He's such a happy go lucky sweetheart.

What's his face made me embarassed throwing his little fake jabs around to show off. He would get his butt handed to him in a street fight. No one likes little twerps that throw temper tantrums.

Vinnie needs to chill and re focus, he needs to quit defending Angie, it is not helping her get healthy.


FOL- All I can say is we'll see. I like NY, and Amany, you are right, she is probably the best for him.


miafluker- All you can do is just urge hubby to do his job the best he can sweetie. I know it is hard, and you worry, but he is doing what he feels he does best in his career right now, and it is very important to have your spouse back you up in that. Just tell him you love him everyday and keep doing whatever it is you do. He loves you. :hug:

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 01:12 PM
Sugar-N-Spice- I missed there hon... :hug: Take care of yourself. I know it SUCKS EGGS to be sick. (((((BIG HUGS)))) *Hands you a tissue* *places cold cloth on your forehead*

(can ya tell momma mode kicks in) lol...

sapphire35
09-11-2006, 01:53 PM
:flow2: GoodMorning :coffee:

Wow, I'm just cannot be gone for a couple of days at all. You ladies have been little chatter boxes. OMG, Friday evening you girls where on a role. :)

Danielle: thanks for comment on the 9 lbs. A friend of mine seen me on friday and I couldn't believe he noticed. It made my day when he commented on it. It sounds like your not feeling well at all. Load up on a little medicine and relax. Maybe your having crumming weather like we are, and you can just curl up in a little ball and rest.:hug:

Mia: Man thats a little complicated. Thats something only you and your husband can decide on what to do. I know its rough have to live at times without him. Once those guys take that oath of honor its hard talking them out something, especially with all these craziness going on. Like Amanda said you have to support what ever decision he makes. He needs your support to help give strength. If he does enlist, he will have a ton on his mind daily and just knowing your behind him will make all his decision easier and more powerful. :hug: I just watch the Katrina documentary on HBO by Spike Lee. It was a powerful film, man there is so much we didn't see and know. It was a real tear jerker. Sorry your having a rough day.

Eat a Bowl of Ice Cream that might cheer you Up! :flow1: JUST KIDDING!!!!DON"T DO THAT!:D

Melissa: Sorry My Rams beat up on your team yesterday! :D We needed that game, it might be the only one we win this year. LOl

Aqua: You doing unbelievable on those raw veggies. I just can't do raw veggies. I bet you weigh your 160 this week. Your definitely making some drastic changes, it should give your system a major shock. Your Husband is going to be buying you a brand new dress soon.:flow1:

Hello: Heather, I hope you get your video soon. I saw it advertised on TV the other day. I started to get it and didn't. I have so many tapes I just need to concentrate on the ones I have already.:wave: My goodness thats alot of studing your doing 3 hours, whew. Your brain is smoking!!!

Amanda: Hello Lady:wave: Sounds like you can start your own video store. Nothing like a variety, it keeps you from getting bored and wanting to quit. I hadn't heard that Detroit coach story until you said it. LMAO! Now I'm going to have to do some research and read about that.

Tricia: OMG good job on the 11 pounds,:bravo: we are both running tit for tat. You've got me nervous.

Hello: :wave: :wave: :wave: Sara, Iwantnewpants, U2girl, Britt, Kenya

I need to do some catching up with everyone. BBL

lovethatsara
09-11-2006, 01:53 PM
Good Morning :yawn: I am so tired this morning.

Butterfly- :hug: dont worry too much about weight changes it fluctuates. Just get back on that program. Don't beat yourself up!!!! We are here for you!

brat- I dont think I could handle the no meat thing. I really dont care what they do to certain animals either so I can see why you would want to refrain from eating meat all together.

mia - yogabootyballet is a lot of fun. I want to get back into doing that along with my walking everyday.

Mel - I've never seen Flavor of Love I dont have cable but all i really wanted to say is. " I mentally ride a treadmill everyday for years and nothing happened hehe"

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 04:48 PM
sapphire35- Hi! :hug: Thanks for the words of encouragement. You know, I am stiff fine today! I am amazed. I guess I am getting what I need, maybe I had gotten used to cutting my portions down anyways- so it's not so bad to eat a lot of raw fruits and veggies for me. Whatever it is, I'm not stopping until I get an honest craving for meat. Then I will have the meet, and proceed trying to stick to raw vegetarianism.

As a matter of fact I feel pumped. I had such a crappy weigh in last week, and it made me re-strategize. Now I'm feeling like I might exceed my expectations, and that just makes me crazy excited!!! :carrot: My jeans are lose now, and I bet I only have a few more wears out of them. There is a big gap in the back (3 inches), and about an inch and a half gap in the front. So basically they are falling off my waist, but I can belt them up. Unfortunately they are only a bit looser in the thighs. I could see by the measurements that my waist and hips were gonna be the first to get outta town though, so it's no real shock that this is how it is looking.

Well, you take care today hon! :hug: I'm glad I got to talk to you today.

lovethatsara- Hi! :hug: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA " I mentally ride a treadmill everyday for years and nothing happened hehe"

Oh my goodness I almost lost it when she said that... I am such a hardcore tread rider that made me NUTS!!!!!!! lololololol....

Sugar-N-Spice
09-11-2006, 05:15 PM
:barf: That is all I have to say regarding FOL. Blech!! I just finished watching this weeks episode..and all I could think about was how in that movie Dodgeball when the blond girl tells Ben Stiller's character that it was nothing, she just threw up a little bit in her mouth... Where ever did they find these women!!!! This is the first week where I have watched an entire episode, hard as it was to watch. I really had to hold myself back from switching the channel when some of them got too icky to watch. :barf: Some look like men, some look all used up.....OYE. I swear, this is all just for tv's sake, it's gotta be! lol Next weeks episode looks funny tho, when NY's mother shows up. I remember her from last season and she was pretty outrageous. I can only imagine what she'll tell Flav this time around! NY looks like she has been "pumped up" if ya know what I mean? If I recall last season her chest looked rather deflated and saggy. Or am I just seein things? I missed CFC darnit, I came in on it about 35 min. in and I decided to wait til I can catch the whole hour. I'm dying to know what happened the way you guys keep going on about it! I can imagine Carnie getting defensive about her gps!

Tricia, it's great to see you sweetie! I wish we were still having bad weather. Now it's 104 out and the sun is blazing. Monsoon season is over come this Thursday, so they say. Hopefully now tho we'll start seeing huge drops in temps! Keep truckin lady, your weightloss is awesome!! I can't wait to see what your next weigh in says!!!!!

Sara, hope you're having a great day!!

Aqua, still vegitating? heehee Pretty soon you're gonna grow roots! :p

Alright, time to get movin. I can't believe its already time to go get the kids. Didnt I just drop them off? LOL

miafluker
09-11-2006, 05:27 PM
hey guys i feel alot better now thanks for all the advise its pretty much official my hubby is more than likely going to do 3 more years in the military working on airplanes so he has a chance to go to school at night i voiced my opinion but we came to an understanding
so it looks like we are looking into relocating to v.a to do the next 3years
anyone lives there ?
in the meantime i will be finishing up my degree as well....
to answer someone's ? my hubby's father and nephew was missing during katrina but they were found in a shelter.... my cousin was doing an intership at the pentagon a few years before 9-11 so forunatley neither of us had any losts as far as relatives losing their lives from either event, though some of my hubby's family members are having a hard time mentally coping, my in laws though have rebuilt their home and everything is coming back together
anyway on a happier note
i got my water in:carrot: and im about to do billy blanks my turbo jam or ybb has not came in yet i got them off ebay so i hope i didnt get jipped
okay got to go the baby is giving me the evil eye

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 06:55 PM
Sugar-N-Spice- Hey! :) Yep, I am still going strong on my veggies. My husband ordered pizza for him and the kids tonight. I was very fine with it. I had a sliced apple and some sunflower seeds with Emeril's chicken rub on them. I'm still in the game!!! :carrot:

Yeah, some of those women on FOL are something else. Cold sores and poopin' in their pants. Pretty well sums it up... :lol:

miafluker- You go!!! Allright, she's getting her water and a workout!!! :hug: You're doing good.

lovethatsara
09-11-2006, 07:02 PM
Aqua - I think if that was all it took was to mentally walk that treadmill you would see a lot more skinny people.

mia - how much did u buy it for on ebay and for how many disks?

Danielle - im doing good how are u doing?

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 07:06 PM
Aqua - I think if that was all it took was to mentally walk that treadmill you would see a lot more skinny people.




I know, right?!?!!!!! lol.....:rofl:

Sorry, I'm busy right now...

But you're just sitting there....

Can't you see I'm mentally taking a walk on the treadmill?!?....

Amany
09-11-2006, 07:37 PM
Hi All.

Just wanted to let you know that I just posted my newest pics. Like always I hate them, but I think I'll be glad later. I'll be back with personals later this evening or early tomorrow before I exercise.

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 08:42 PM
Amany- Wow!!! You are noticably moving right along! You look great. :hug:

brat_61886
09-11-2006, 09:17 PM
Hey ladies, i'm really busy so i cant write much but i just wanted to tell you guys something i learned in chemistry class today. I was told that they are starting to you carbonminoxide on beef and things like that because it keeps the meat pink. personally i dont want that crap in my body. its not supposed to hurt you, but it keeps the meat from turning brownish like it does when its old so start checking the dates on things so you dont buy really old meat and end up sick!!! take care ya'll.

Amany
09-11-2006, 09:19 PM
OK, I couldn't make it an entire raw veggie day. BUT.... It's been a totally vegan day. I loved having raw veggies for lunch, but I had to go ahead and cook them for dinner. Just a bit. They were still very, very crunchy!!! :rofl:

Anyway, the veggies were very good. I still think I would like to eat vegan 2 or 3 days a week. A friend I used to have years ago made tofu / veggie stir-fry that was really good. I'm going to have to learn how to cook with tofu. Lots of protein. :)

:hug: Danielle :hug: - I'm sorry you've been feeling icky. Don't worry about personals. Please just rest until you feel better. You poor thing. :(
Omigosh, NY's mother. In fairness I'd be horrified too if my daughter wanted to be with Flav. In fact I think I'd drag her home. But the mom was just so mean, rude and nasty. That was uncalled for. She was abusive to Flav and NY. Regardless of what she thought of the man, he did try to be kind to her. So there was no need for her to have treated him the way she did.
I'm sorry, but I'm feeling rather jealous of your 104. There's a definite chill in the air here. The end of summer is rough on me. My head and throat have been achy since last night. Just the change of season blahs...

Aqua - Who knew that Isaac from the Love Boat was such a hottie! :drool: He is a handsome older man, isn't he? He's shaping up rather nicely. I think Angie wants people to kiss up to her too and beg her to stay. She also wants people to feel sorry for her and pity her conditions. Those people don't have time for that crap, they've got their own weight to lose. The need has to take time out from helping others to try to reason with her. :rolleyes:
Congrats on the loose pants! Boy, that must feel great. It's really nice to see the fruits of your labor, isn't it? This working out is the best thing for us. I don't know how my eating plan is going to evolve. It will stay healthy, of course, but I have to say that I am the most proud of my exercise. It's this exercise that's gonna give us the look that we want. It's also going to help sustain our loss the most. You're doing an outstanding job by the way. An hour of tread each day! That's admirable.

Trish - "Eat a Bowl of Ice Cream that might cheer you Up! JUST KIDDING!!!!DON"T DO THAT!" :lol:
Yeah, we're a bunch of Chatty Cathys. :D Amazing how the internet brought together a group of supportive women, who also happen to be blabbermouths and love trashy television?? :lol:
It's nice when people start to notice your progress, isn't it? It motivates you to keep going.

Mia - I'm glad your family is coming back together. I hope that time will heal their hurts and their sadness. I know you're not crazy about what your husband is going to do, but make the best of it. Thankfully, you'll be finishing school. So once he's done, you will have graduated and will be in a position to make things a lot easier for the both of you. I'll keep you guys in my prayers.

Sara - Yoga Booty Ballet? That sounds like a heck of a lot of fun! Oh no, I'm shivering and I'm breaking out in a cold sweat.... "I will not buy it. I will not order it. I will not buy..... I will not buy....."
Sara that was me going through fitness video detox. :lol3:

Ok I'd better go. I need to wash the dinner dishes. I want to get to bed as early as possible tonight. See you guys in the AM!!

Hun.e.B
09-11-2006, 09:37 PM
Good evening everyone! Its been one of those days where its just impossible to find a minute to sit and catch up! I'm waiting for dinner to finish so here I am! Sorry I missed all the chatter today!

Mia...I'm sorry today started off the way it did, but it sounds like you and dh have great communication and you'll make this new transition like a champ. I've always believed everything works out the way it does for a reason, you may not know what it is yet but you will one day. I hope this evening is a much happier one for you.

Amanda...OMG, you can totally tell a difference in your pics! You are just shrinking away arent you!!! How exciting to see such changes in such a short time. I know it doesnt seem short to you though huh? Keep up the good work! I know its all that exercise that is just cutting you right down. You look GREAT!

Aqua...you turn that frown upside down!! I think that is such a great idea challenging Tina, you do know that was a 2 week weigh in right? They dont weigh weekly as the show makes it seem. Plus shes in the very beginning stages of changing her life so naturally shes gonna lose faster. Never discount the amazing things you've done!! You are an amazing woman! You inspire me every single day. So you may not have lost 9 lbs this past few weeks but the life changes you've made will carry you FAR! And thats what matters more than the numbers on the scale!! Keep on fighting girl, you are gonna WIN!

Trish..all I gotta say to you is :p LOL! Jk..it was a hard loss to take but I suppose we'll recover!

Sara....you dont know what you are missing with Flav of love...well actually maybe you do LOL!! Its a train wreck and you just cant NOT look!

Bonnie...all the scale is telling you is its time to get back on the train and get to work. We've seen you make some amazing choices so far and you can do it again. You know what needs to be done and we KNOW you can do it!!!

Danielle...ugh I'm getting worried about you lady. maybe you need to go see someone, perhaps its more than a cold if its this violent of a cough. Its making the rounds in your family and you need to get well before it hits the kids (yes I'll bite my tongue now!! LOL) I hope you are feeling better tonight!

Brittni..I saw a story on that awhile ago, kinda gross isnt it. They say its totally heathy..I dunno! Another chemical to contend with!

I hope I didnt forget anyone! If I did I'm sorry!!! Dinner is almost done so I better get outta here! Have a wonderful evening everyone!! Todays been a GREAT day for me! the best I've had in months. Yay!!!

~melissa

AquaChick
09-11-2006, 10:34 PM
brat_61886- Eww. Is that really true? I would think carbon dioxide might be what they use? Carbon monoxide is poison, and I would think that would be illegal. Carbon dioxide is what we breathe out (I think if I remember science correctly) and plants breathe in, and they then produce clean air for us again. Whatever the case, I don't like my plants or my meat treated just to look "pretty". Shoot. I might stay a vegetarian.

Amany- Good job today! :) Oh, goodness. Cookem' all you want. :D The point comes down to giving the meat and other processed products a bit of a rest, plus the fruits and veggies are good for us in so many ways. Meat is indeed yummy, but we eat too much of it in our culture- I think we do anyway. Whatever one's opinion is on it, we cannot doubt that eating like that a few days has to at the very least assist in out weight loss progress.

Thanks for the congrats on the pants. My lower body wardrobe has one foot out the door. Just imagine my gray pants with one foot out the front door, and my husband kicking the rear of them really hard... lol....

Thanks for all the kind words, I couldn't do any of it without you all. I feel accountable, and responsible. I never had to do that before, and it's exactly what I needed.

Hun.e.B- Thanks for the inspiration. :) I really like Tina. She kinda reminds me of me. She's very nice, but she hates to hear excuses that can't hold water. She's commited and serious. Reminds me of all of us in this group.

I hope you have a nice night. :hug:

lovethatsara
09-11-2006, 10:41 PM
Amanda - congrats on the weight loss pics. I know I need to do some. Maybe I'll start tonight.

Yoga booty ballet is fun. i really should get back into doing my fitness dvds. I have a lot that i havent even tried yet, so far I Have:

YBB Beginners Basics
YBB Total Toning Basics
YBB Cardio Cabaret
YBB Hip Hop Abs
MCDonnalds Cardio
MTV Pilates
MTV Pilates Remix
Island Girl Tahitian Dance
Carmen Electra's Striptease Aerobics Volumes 1-5


I'm planning on renting some on netflix to see if they are worth buying. Mostly my excersize program consists mostly of Powerwalking afterwork. Im afraid if i get up early i'll be too tired for work. Do you have any workout videos that you would suggest?

Hun.e.B
09-11-2006, 10:50 PM
Island Girl Tahitian Dance huh...now that could be alot of fun!! Have you tried it?

lovethatsara
09-12-2006, 12:12 AM
Yes, My mom got it for me last week and she got one for herself too. It feels like a workout. :) I think in a couple weeks if I keep at it I'll be good hehe.

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 12:28 AM
HEH!! Look out boys Sara is gonna knock your socks off!! Thats gotta be a great ab workout, if its the kind of dancing that I think it is.

Kinda like belly dancing is so good for core. Thats what I really need to work on, I think it'd do wonders for all my other ailments if I could get a good strong core. Come to think of it thats something I could do off my leg. I have a stability ball. HMMM...can you smell the wheels turning? LOL!!

I'm off to bed! I've got a philosophy exam tomorrow, I'm not sure how to study for it, I've read the material, gone to class and gone over my notes. How do you study theory and opinions? We'll see how it goes! 'See' you all in the morning!

~melissa

brat_61886
09-12-2006, 02:02 AM
Aqua- Yes its carbonmonoxide. if you ever see someone with carbonmonoxide poisoning their bobies are pink. they look really flushed. its something about the toxin attaching itself to the hemoglobin or something like that. but like i said its not supposed to hurt you, just you might buy really old meat and who wants food poisening ya know??? Oh yeah a lot of the veggies u buy at the store have really nasty pesticides and i believe they are giving things like apples something to make them grow larger. plus fertilizer is really bad for you so to be honest either way we are screwed. Organic food cost so freakin much and who knows how organic it really is. my grandpa made a good point to me. is a farmer going to not put pestizides on his crop when qbugs (forget what kind) start coming in and couls very easily destroy the whole thing???

Melissa- the one thing in college that ive learned, no matter what, listen to your teacher and figure out their quirks. then write what they think is right. it really sucks but its probably the best way to get a good grade. good luck tho!!!

Sara- i wanna try the dancing thing!!! i love to dance. i used to go to the clubs all the time, but since i'm only 20, and i live in texas and cops are crazy here, i dont go anymore but i love to do it at home...its just not the same not having cute boys to dance with lol

Amanda-Looking hot mamma!!!!

Ladies its been a long and stressful day so i'm out.

AquaChick
09-12-2006, 08:46 AM
brat_61886- Yep ,you are right brat_61886,they sure do treat with carbon monoxide, I found a consumer report on it. I thought I had read somewhere that they treat it with carbon dioxide too, that's why I was really surprised, but you know what you're talking about. :) That's awful!!!! Thank you very much for bring this to our attention. There are so many things that go on that we, the consumer, rarely hear about- and it should be common knowledge. Thanks again for the info. :hug:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/consumer-protection/consumer-interest/meat-treated-with-carbon-monoxide-spoiled-meat-may-look-fresh-7-06/overview/0607_spoiled-meat_ov.htm

lovethatsara- Hi! :) :hug:

Hun.e.B- Hi! :) :hug:

Amany
09-12-2006, 10:17 AM
Britt - Thank you for educating us. Even if treating the meat with CO is supposed to be safe, the consumer should still know about it. Then he can make an informed decision. That's only fair.
Yeah, organic food is really pricey. And for the high price, the food tends to go bad fast without the preservatives. We're used to being able to keep fruit and veggies for a while. If we were to go back a couple of hundred years, I'm sure those before us would marvel at how long we can keep an apple or a head of broccoli. The other day my boss was joking about not being able to keep an organic banana from breakfast until lunch time.

Aqua - I think you're right about us eating too much meat. In fact the reason that meat is mass produced the way it is is because of our high consumption of it. Most cows intended for meat don't even graze anymore. When they used to graze on grass, red meat was much healthier.
When you said that we eat too much meat I remembered this program I'd watched probably close to 10 years ago. There were about 4 or 5 doctors and nutritionists involved. They were suggesting the same thing. When we cook a meal, we make the meat the central part of the meal, when it should be a side dish. Most of the people involved in the discussion said that we should only consume meat with one meal per day at the most. One of the doctors suggested that it would be beneficial to fast one day a week to give our bodies a rest from having to process food. So you're definitely on to something chicky.
BTW, I like Tina. But you like you more! :hug: You're doing a great job.

Melissa - I'm sure the exam will go well. You've been studying your behind off and you're a smart lady. ;)
I hope the stability ball works for you. Don't worry. You'll figure something out. I'm sure there's a way to get around the problem you're having with your back and leg.
Thank you for the compliment. I really can't tell the difference at all between September and August's pictures. I can tell the difference between June and September though. Plus I know I'm a little more toned and smaller. That's good enough for me. :)

Hi Sara - Woman, we need to get together and open a video fitness business. :lol: What do I recommend...
Well, Leslie Sansone's walking videos are always good. I prefer her in the mornings because my muscles and joints are just starting to wake up. Her stuff is very low impact. If you like to dance, and don't mind things a little complicated, anything by Donna Richardson is good. And fun. He's not a popular guy around here, but Fighting Fit, Fighting Fat by Harvey Walden is a good all around workout. The production quality is cheesy though. He has a video that is newer. I think it's called Celebrity Fit Club, but I haven't seen that one.
I think it's great that you have such a variety of workouts. It will keep you from getting bored. And you're muscles will continue to be challenged.

Danielle - :hug: I hope you're feeling better today. Have plenty of hot tea and water. Take it easy.

sapphire35
09-12-2006, 10:26 AM
:wave: Whats UP!!! Good Morning!!:flow1:

Brat: That is just gross (carbonmonoxide) and they wonder why we get cancer and all that other stuff that there is no cure for supposedly. For some reason I just believe there is a cure for cancer. We can send a guy to the moon but we can't find a cure for cancer, come on. Doctors would be broke if there was a cure, you gotta keep that money coming in. Its business, keep adding tons of stuff to our food product and will keep going to the doctor. Sorry couldn't help that.;)

Aqua: Goodmorning lady! I bet your on :cloud9: with all those inches and lbs your losing. Your doing outstanding and I applaud you. :cheer:

Hello Sara: You know dancing is the way Kenya lost her 100 lbs. Its really good exercise and its fun, if you like dancing. :dance: Although I will say I don't think I ever heard of Yoga Booty Ballet. There is just so many videos and DVD. Your like me, we both workout later in the day. I already get up at 5:30am just so me and my husband get off to work on time. It takes alot of effort and energy. So therefore I workout after work. I'd like to get up earlier but I don't always go to sleep early, so it makes it hard.

Well ladies I have been slipping on the water. I am only getting in about 52 ounces a day. I was getting in 72 or more. I want to get my work out up to 5 days and keep it that way and I have not been successful at that.

I'm going to have to set a weekly challenge. Maybe I'll stick to it better. You ladies were doing a weekly challenge in the beginning when I started. Should we go back to setting a weekly challenge as well as our monthly challenge? :?: Just thinking out loud.

sapphire35
09-12-2006, 10:40 AM
:bravo: Amanda: It seems like we always posting at the same time. lol. Standing Novation on the pics and weight loss. :cp: :cp: :cp: That is great weight loss in such a small time frame. You can definitely tell you're doing every and all the right things to be successful with your weight loss goal.

Butterfly50
09-12-2006, 10:44 AM
Hello Ladies Iam sitting here eating my oatmeal and awaiting for the plummer so he can finish the job he had to do last week. I jest wanted to say Thanks for all the encouragment . I will be getting busy here if I have to take one of my long walks tonight when it gets cooler.
Have my new Comp all put up jest waiting on the High speed internet to be installed and I will be in Business.Hopefully getting some good news this weekend My step son is thinking to go live with mother. :carrot: :carrot: Iam sorry I know I shouldnt be like that Butt!!!! I want my house back. Any way good timming I am having my Sons Bday party this weekend he will be 17 . I have to start checking in to Social security or SSi for him with his Joint Disease I dont want to wait till the insurance discountie him when he is 18 . I jest cant take that chance HIs meds run 1,500 $$ a month if he dont have it then in about 2 years he will have to be possibley in a wheel chair. So I have lots to do.
My knee is feeling a little better took some meds for it last night. Actually isnt my knee. It is the Tendion or muscle on the Back of my leg on the back of my knee. It was all swelled up last night . I think I am going to wrap it and hope it stays feeling better .
I better be going and get out of my PJs before the plummer comes . Best of luck to everyone and Congrats to everyone ...

Amany
09-12-2006, 10:57 AM
Morning Trish :wave:
We are becoming a little lack luster, aren't we? Honest to goodness I think it's just part of the process. We start off gong ho, and then run out of steam. Momentum will only carry us so far and then we start to become rather laxed. This is the time that we really have to start practicing diligence. Regardless of how we feel. Regardless of how much we'd rather sit on the couch, or how mentally drained we feel. This is the real part of the commitment, I think. Sometimes that means going on auto-pilot if you must. Just go through the motions. What you're going through with water now is what I was going through with exercise last week.

So now what you may have to do is think of ways to make yourself drink more water. Maybe it's just as simple as buying one of those two quart insulated mugs that keep the water cold. Or not allowing yourself to drink anything but water for a week. That will kick up your craving for it. Try to get at least a glass or two as soon as you wake up in the morning. That will usually get you set for the entire day. Then fill your bottle as soon as you get to work. Fill up again after lunch. Drink another glass or two when you get home.

I guess I've been having a lot of "sobering" thoughts lately. Not bad ones, but just sobering, realistic ones. It dawned on me last night that if I am to be successful I can NEVER come close to eating the way I used to. I mean I knew it intellectually all along. But I really felt it last night. All those goodies I like will have to be just occasional treats my whole life. And by occasional, I don't mean the weekends. I mean there may be a month or two that go by before I have something like one or two cookies. Or pizza. Or whatever fried or cheesy thing I like. Then I have to walk away from it until the next time. No binge weekends or binge weeks. No eating like a horse from Thanksgiving until New Years.

Man, this post is heavier and longer than I intended. :lol: Sorry! I know what you mean though. I guess all I'm trying to say is that this is probably the natural cycle of things.

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 11:19 AM
Good Morning Ladies! I tell ya, when it decides to cool off here it means it!! this saturday the HIGH is supposed to be 50 degrees! 50! I agree we need to do weekly challenges again and maybe focus on a different aspect of weight loss each week. We need to keep that gung ho going!

Brat...I think your grandpa is right, you just never know whats going on with our foods anymore, even with the organics. I havent grown a third eye and my kids dont have toes growing out of their foreheads so I'm thinking so far we are okay. LOL!

Aqua....I'm almost afraid to know everything they put in our foods! Knowledge is definetly power!!

Bonnie....I hope you have a fantastic day today!! Take those steps towards health! You can do it!

amanda....you are very inciteful today arent you! I agree, none of us can go back to the way we used to eat before, not if we want to keep the weight off. There was a reason we got to the weight we did and it wasnt from eating healthy. Its almost like you've gotta grieve the food. There are times to celebrate sure, but not for 2 months straight! LOL!!

Danielle...I miss you!!! I hope you feel better! I'm such a schmoo, I havent responded to an email you sent a few days ago!

Okie dokie, time to hit the showers. Fall season TV starts tonight, I'm almost sad about that, too much on to watch!!! Being a tv addict surely isnt good for me! LOL!! Have a wonderful day everyone!! I'll catch up with you this afternoon!

~melissa

AquaChick
09-12-2006, 11:20 AM
Amany- I love that you all try out these videos. I like hearing about them. I like Billy Blanks, and I'm going to give another shot at that DVD pretty soon. He is very motivating. I am also considering buying a stp and doing step aerobics in the near future. I see them do it on fit tv once in a while and I just wanna do it to. I yhink it's kinda neat to start a library of tapes. You're right, it fights boredom! And, it can be good for making sure you're hitting all sorts of muscle groups.

Is'nt it funny how instinct can take over? I never knew meat might be better off as a side dish, though I did know we probably consume more than we should. I gave it a shot with the raw veggies, mostly out of disappointment in my loss- I ain't gonna lie. But, now I haven't had meat in days, but I'm not craving it so much. I have one craving, and it is bizzare. Baked beans with brown sugar and thick slices of maple bacon diced up into it. I have no idea why, but I have been thinking about it for three days. There's no way in hades I'm putting something like that in my mouth after being such a good girl this week! lol...

Thanks for the nice words. :hug: I think you are doing a great job too!


sapphire35- Good morning! :hug:

I was really surprised they use that to keep meat looking good too. I'm so glad she told us! I wish I could afford organic, but I can't. Maybe if I stay a vegetarian (I'm thinking about it, especially now! :lol: ) I will buy organic produce as much as I can. I want to be healthy as much as I want to lose weight, so it's something to think very seriously about.

Thank you for the applause, and the good words. :) I am surprising myself. I think once I saw those pink pants sagging it really pushed me to kepp going and try a little harder, and it let me know it is working, it just takes time. I have so much support and motivation. I have you all, I have the info on 3FC, I have Celebrity Fit Club (Yes, it is a motivational tool for me), my husband quit being a stick in the mud and now he is so proud of me and roots me on, and I want to run into people I haven't seen in a while and see the expressions on their face. I know, kinda shallow... but you gotta admit, it's gonna be funny when people that haven't seen us finally do see us and we look like different people!!! :D

I know you can do it, and if you need a weekly challenge, we can come up with something. I think we should mull some ideas. Do you think weight challenge, water challenge? We could have something to keep you going in some area, and then the reward will be to win a certain smilie to put in your sig. Kind of a badge of honor within our group.
For eample, whatever week you win the challenge, you get to put the dancing carrot or something in your siggy

__________________________________________________ _______________

Week one challenge winner: :carrot:
__________________________________________________ _______________

Ah, I don't know. You ladies come up with good ideas all the time, we can think of something that will keep you motivated. :)

Butterfly50- Hi! Finally getting that fixed has got to be a relief.

I hope you feel better in the back of the knee area real soon. :hug:

AquaChick
09-12-2006, 11:22 AM
Hun.e.B- Good Morning!!!! :hug:

Amany- OH MY GOSH!!!! I was thinking the same thing yesterday!!! It will never be the same. If I want to stay healthy I can never eat a pint of Haagan Daaz at a sitting and 3 slices of Papa John's, it's over. I felt kinda sad and disgusted with myself at the same time... but reality set in.

I think we are making a breakthrough, and it is all a normal part of the process.

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 11:43 AM
Aqua...I think the badge of honor is a great idea!! Now what do we wanna focus on our first week?

~melissa

Amany
09-12-2006, 12:15 PM
Melissa, you made and excellent point about how we almost have to mourn the food. I think I will have to mourn the food and the habits.

I loved my old habits. They made me feel good. The food tasted good. The food was quick and cheap. I could go to any of the popular fast food places several times a week and eat for $5 or less every time. The newspaper is full of coupons for bad things from the grocery store than can be heated quickly in the microwave. And if it didn't taste good enough, I could simply load it up with shredded cheese. After and exhausting day at work, those things seemed like life savers.

Then there was my lack of exercise. I could go months without even thinking about it. I could sleep in every morning instead of getting up early popping in a Leslie Sansone video. I have to get up 40 or so minutes before I do it because I need time to wake up. And I can't exercise on cold muscles. It's easier to sleep in. It's easier to not exercise when I'm mentally tired or had some depressing news. I like laying on the couch and watching television. It feels good.

I'm giving up something that I love and am comforted by. I have to say goodbye to it. Let go of it. Somehow, in my mind, I have to literally funeralize it. As weird as it sounds, I think I'll actually have a ceremony of sorts. So when I start to slip back into my old ways, I'll remind myself that I'm having an unnatural relationship with something that has been dead and buried. A corpse.

Amany
09-12-2006, 12:27 PM
Aqua, I feel sad too. You're right though. I think we are definitely having a breakthrough.

sapphire35
09-12-2006, 12:43 PM
Amanda: I just did something crazy and lost everything I had wrote. But boy are you reading my mind today. I want this weight loss so much. We sit back and watch people eat whatever they what whenever they want and never gain an ounce. I know all about the different metabolism, PCOS, diabetes, genetics, and everything else that make us different. It feels like a diet to me versus a change of life right now. Which means lots of effort and control. I want to be able to walk to my pantry or frig and not frett about anything I pick up like its a chore. I want to feel comfortable with this change of life style. Like vegetarians do. You know what i'm saying? Don't get me wrong I'm not quitting are anything, no way! I'm just sharing how I feel. Yesterday I think Aqua said she was having veggies and her husband and children were having pizza. Hopefully at some point we can all eat the same thing our families do but within reason. 1 slice versus 3 and a salad. 1 piece of cake versus the whole cake. :D You know.

It seems like some of us are losing :dust: lately or is not as motivated as we were in the beginning. We're all exercising and trying to eat right but we don't all seem GUN HO about it. :running: Lets get Gun Ho again and watch the pounds melt away. Maybe we need to do a roll call, found our were some of our Ladies are? Definitely some weekly challenges. :boxing:

I guess I'm trying to keep myself fired up and everyone else.:flame:

Sorry for the soap box, today.

Amany
09-12-2006, 01:14 PM
Trish - I think this is a good day for us. I'm glad your so enthusiastic because it has me thinking that just because we're putting our old lifestyle to rest doesn't mean that we can't celebrate the new one. The new one is going to be better to our families and us in the long run, right?

So let's kick around a few more ideas...

I like the idea Aqua had about having the dancing carrot for a week.

I like what you've been saying about relighting our flames.

Maybe we should all start logging our water consumption next to the daily exercise on our September thread.

Maybe we should share some other interests too. Like maybe we could have a book club as well. Maybe once a month we could read a funny, trashy novel and discuss it. Obviously we'd want to avoid religion, politics and something really preachy on social issues. And for goodness sakes, nothing about food addiction!!! Of course, I'm sure it would creep up eventually. :)
Part of our problem is obsession. We're obviously obsessed with food, or none of us would be here, right? Maybe a good distraction will help us balance things out some. Part of cultivating our new eating habits is developing interest in other things besides food.

Just sharing a few ideas...

sapphire35
09-12-2006, 01:38 PM
I swear everything I type is getting lost today. :( Its actually getting quite comical. I feel great about today, now we're on to something.

Lets keep this weight party going with a little bit more pazzaazz. I love the book idea, I had just wrote that before my post disappeared. Except I had a weight loss book instead. But I love to read and I think the book club we be great. We discuss that along with our weight goals and challenges.:carrot:

Some challenges

1. exercise 5 days or more days for week
2. drink 100oz minimum a day
3. no meat for 3 days that week

shoot some ideas.

Hello Bonnie, and Melissa

miafluker
09-12-2006, 01:40 PM
hey guys a water challenge sounds great but right now i cant do more than 64oz because i was never a water drinker to begin with or maybe we can have like a meal rater kind of like how you ate that day and then grade it
i dont know im not really creative but let me know when something comes up
im so tired right now just got back from the dr with the baby i was there since 8am she had to get shots now she is going to be in pain all day my poor baby. im going to try to get some rest so i can get a workout in sometime today
oh yeah i messed up i got a double chez burger and fries from mcdonalds on the way home because i didnt eat anything all day and im famished
i should have ate breakfast anyway maybe i can do a challenge like that a stay away from fast food challenge or with fast food only 2x a month/ i dont know i think im a little dehydrated and crazy right now talk to you later
oh im getting pissed i havent recieved my workout dvds yet and i ordered them last thurs.

lovethatsara
09-12-2006, 01:49 PM
Melissa - Good Luck on your test today. I have no idea how you would study for theory and opinions. I'm going to rent some belly dance ones i thought that might look fun too.
Brat - I heard dancing is good, my nana said whens he was younger she lost her weight by dancing. If you like to dance go for it.
Aqua- HI:hug: How's everything coming along?
Amanda - Thanks for the recommendations! I'm going to have to try that out.
Trish - You do get up early! I get up at 6am, work from 7:30pm-4:00pm dont get home til about 5. it takes 30mins to get from my job to work and then we have to pick up my sister from her work before my dad drops me off at my apt (still no car) then 5pm I get ready for my powerwalking 6-7 I do that, then I take a shower eat I try to spend a little time with matt but i always end up falling asleep.

I'm getting really irritated with my other half. He wants to know how I'm doing then he critisizes me. He thinks that nothing works other than running. I'm sorry but this big girl cant run. I can jog but I like to powerwalk better. he told me last night I hope you dont feel bad when you dont loose any weight because you know that really doesnt work it's good just for fun but if you want to see results you need to run. I just wanted to tell him shut up and let me do what i want. I told him I wanted to try and get up early a few weeks ago and do my excersize videos in the morning and powerwalk at night. He told me that the videos will only be good to tone and strengthen not to loose weight and I should wait on doing them, and that if i excersized in the morning I'd be too tired for work.:mad: This coming from a twig with a high metabolism rate. sorry that wasnt very nice. Id just wish he'd stop bugging me about the running everytime i want to talk about my weight loss journey. It makes me not want to talk at all because I know what he's going to say next.

Altari
09-12-2006, 01:53 PM
Hi all!!!

I've been seriously MIA from everything - eating well, exercising and 3FC...because ::drumroll::

We got our house!!! Pictures will be posted once we're finished.

We've been cleaning and paiting and moving. My meals have consisted of getting as many calories as possible because I can only eat twice a day and sleep 3 hours a night. Hehehe...

I didn't do an official weigh in this week, but I measured a few spots and I didn't backslide, so that's good IMO. I'm jumping back on the bandwagon today, watching what I eat and exercising. A friend suggested that I try low carb to get the weight loss jump started, so I'm going to be doing that. I also quit smoking - promised hubby I would once we got the house. Nic fitting and low carb...hmm...I'll be tons of fun. :)

It's good to see that everyone else is doing so well. After skimming through it seems like there's a lot of progress being made this week. :carrot:

Amany
09-12-2006, 03:14 PM
Mia, that's a great idea! I daily grading system. I love it!
Don't worry about the McDonald's lunch. Just move past it.
Give the little one an extra kiss today. Poor thing. I hope she feels better soon.

Congrats Altari. Good to see you!

Trish - I was just throwing out suggestions. Maybe every month someone could come up with a different book. Weight loss wouldn't be a bad topic. It's just that I would prefer trashy! :lol: But I'd wait till my month to choose. ;) I'll go along with what the group decides. As I said, I think the only books we really should avoid are political and religious ones. To make things easier, I would also suggest that it be a book that is already being printed in paperback and we could buy from online if we wanted to. I never pay full price for my books.
Oh yeah, about the cancer... From what I understand some forms of cancer are being successfully treated with herbs in some of the European countries. Without chemo or radiation. But here, our pharmaceutical companies need to make their money. Our doctors usually don't learn much about prescribing herbs in med school. A lot of them only have maybe one or two nutrition classes. If any.
Speaking of meds, our doctors get kickbacks for writing prescriptions. It's really scary because patients need to become more and more educated about that sort of thing. We literally trust our doctors with our lives. I feel really privileged to be an American citizen. I'd rather live here than any place in the world. But I hate this dangerous relationship that our doctors have with the pharmaceutical companies here. But at the same time....
Most breakthroughs in medicine happen here. Needed medicine. Which is part of the whole gripe against people getting their meds from Canada. Most research is financed by the American companies. Ok, I'm babbling again.... :rolleyes:
Anyway, it's a very fine line.

:hug: I'm sorry Sara :hug: Weight loss and exercise works differently for everyone. The only thing that continues to hold true is that you have to be putting out more energy (calories) than you're consuming. Maybe try lovingly, but firmly, letting your guy know that sometimes what you need is a sounding board and a support system. Not criticism. You'll do what you feel is right when the time is right. When it comes down to it, this journey is yours. You have to do what you feel is most effective.

sapphire35
09-12-2006, 03:55 PM
Congrats on the house Altari, glad to see you back. A new house is a lot of work. The best part is decorating to me.

You know if your going to quick smoking now is the best time while your trying to lose weight. That is so hard to do, I hope you succeed with that. :goodluck:

Sara: I hope you keep doing what your doing. Sometimes people mean well when they're trying to give us advice, but just don't know how to properly deliver it. Tough love or advice isn't always the right approach, if its not wanted or given the correct way. And nagging just doesn't cut it either. I bet if he did the exercise videos along with you he probably wouldn't last all the way through.;)

I am going to start jogging tonight on the treadmill. I did hear somewhere that you lose more weight jogging than running. Who Knows, but it will be a change up. I tried it once last week and it wasn't so bad. I did the coolrunning.com version the couch 5k. Its for people like me who has never jogged before or was a couch potatoe. It teaches you to how to start running in 2 months flat. Its pretty easy. You warm 5min with a walk then 60 sec of jogging, 90 sec walking, 60 sec jogging, etc for 20 minutes. I did the 5 minute warm up walk, 60 sec jogging, 3 min walk, 60 jogging, 3 min walk etc for 20 minutes.

sapphire35
09-12-2006, 04:02 PM
what happens if you don't eat the right foods for the day or skip a meal? Are you don't try to eat at least every 3 hours?

Amany
09-12-2006, 04:11 PM
My goodness, we really are sharing the same brain today. I've been thinking of jogging on the tread at the fitness center a few times a week. I thought I'd tackle the stairs in my building first early in the mornings, but it's so hot on the stairways that it's stifling.
When I do my shadow boxing, I shadow box for 2 minutes and jog in place for 5. Jogging in place doesn't compare to the tread though.
I think you may have motivated me to start today. When I get home I might grab my gym shorts, water bottle and brand new running shoes and do it.

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Good Afternoon lovelies!!! First off I gotta say that I havent lost anything in pizzazz...why because I'm just starting! LOL!! Seriously today really is day 2 for me. You guys didnt know that did ya? Its like living a lie, oh I can give support up the wazoo but do it for myself...ppffft! Well thats a changin! I had some weak moments today especially at Costco, you know how they give samples, well they werent all set up so I was just a walking around and around and around the store waiting..mostly for the cheesecake because I love it so, and please one bite isnt gonna kill me right!! Well I was walking and walking and walking and my leg starts screaming so I ask myself...wft are you doing?! Get out of here, so I did! No bites, no tastes, no cheesecake! I came home and had a Slimfast shake and a pear instead! Yay me!!!! Ya know, if I keep this up I could possibly break the 240s this weighin!!!! *does a carrot dance* LOL!!

I gotta go back and read all these amazing posts today, I just skimmed through I was so excited to post my victory. But OMG girls!! Talk about some serious breakthroughs today! this is journal stuff!! I'm so proud of everyone!!

Mia...I'm set to do a water challenge if you are! I know I flaked on exercise with you but I just cant do it with this stinkin back/leg problem. Water I can do! I'm gonna set my water goal at 100 oz a day. I've been getting about 80oz lately. I challenge anyone to up that water for the next week!

I better get drinking I'm only at 20oz! LOL Cheers!

lovethatsara
09-12-2006, 04:42 PM
Did u guys realize we average about 13pages a week? sometimes more..

How many of us are there?

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Amanda...I think another thing to think about in regards to food is that you dont have to say goodbye to everything you once loved. The WAY we ate...YES!! Obviously thats not working for us, but there is a way to enjoy those foods in a healthier way. Who was it that had the healthy taco salad the other night? Making your own pizza with whole wheat pita bread as the crust. Did you know you could make one of those loaded with toppings for only 500 calories? And they are awesome!! Chicken tacos! Turkey burgers. These things dont have to taste bland and icky. We CAN learn a new way of eating the same foods. And then moderation kicks in! Frankly I'm glad to say goodbye to my old ways because they didnt make me feel very good. Think about your energy levels when you ate like that. And the aches and pains for no good reason...well the reason was your body wasnt functioning right. And compare that to now! So yes its sad to let it go...but HELLO, look at what you get in return!

Trish...I'm right there with you girl!! The old highschool cheerleader is gonna come out and you girls dont want to see me in my old skirt, you really really dont! LOL!! No meat for 3 days?? OOOH girl now that'd be a challenge for me!! Something to seriously think about!

Books...I LOVE to read!! I'm rereading the Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evanovich. My absolute FAVORITE series!! Has everyone else read these? I could talk about those characters like they were real people! LOL!!

You know what else might be fun...what if we had a night where we al made the same dinner? Find some lowfat/lowcal recipe, even low carb that we could all try. Even if its just a side dish. Maybe we could share our faves and all of us make it the same night??

What about a points challenge? Anyone ever done these before? They can be really fun and can really keep you on track doing what you need to do. I've got one if anyone wants the info let me know!

Sara...your other half is wrong! Toning up can have some amazing drastic results on weightloss. yes it takes a bit longer in the beginning because you start building muscle, but if you keep your measurements you'll see some serious shrinking. Muscle burns more calories than fat does so the more you can build up the better off you are. Those videos are great for that. Plus they get your heart rate up which obviously is GREAT for your heart! You wont find me running anytime soon either, not unless the neighbors wanna hear flap flap flap flap all the way down the road!

Altari...welcome back!!! Congrats on the house and on quitting smoking!! I'm so proud of you for that!! yes low carbing and no smoking, oh girl the next few days I'm gonna hide from you! LOL!! Be careful with your lowcarbing though, yes you'll lose alot in the beginning for that jumpstart but if you go right back into eating the carbs again it'll all come right back. Do it gradually, your body will thank you!! Ah detox!! LOL!!

Whew...LOL!! I think that shake gave me a sugar rush, either that or you girls have fired me up!!

~melissa

Amany
09-12-2006, 04:56 PM
:lol: Sara, we are small in number, but big in mouth. :lol3:

Melissa - How can we be a better support system for you? You're always looking out for us, I'm sure everyone would like to do the same for you.
Two days in a row is no small thing. It has to start somewhere, right? Congrats!

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Amanda its not you guys, its me. I can make every excuse in the world. But now I'm looking at things like this.....if I lose weight the pain will go away. That is what drives me. Lord knows I've got a million other reasons to do this but this is the one that is gonna keep me on the straight and narrow. Thanks for asking though! Everyone just keep doing what you are doing!

~melissa

Amany
09-12-2006, 05:08 PM
Melissa, it's definitely the habit. It's the habit had me eating too much of certain foods. And far too often. If I told you about the type of eating I'd been doing, your hair would stand on top of your head.

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 05:32 PM
OH I dunno about that I bet I could have given you a run for your money! LOL!! Thats all in the past though isnt it!

~melissa

miafluker
09-12-2006, 06:23 PM
yea i learned alot of tricks as far as eating like for one i dont like eating just plain egg whites so i use 1 whole egg and 1 or 2 egg whites vs 3 eggwhites to make an omlett or whatever

also i learned about a sunrise smoothie that is made with crystal light sunrise,strawberries and ice

i do the mini pizzas with bagels or flat bread and use 2% chez

the whole wheat spegetti does not taste any different than the regular(and im not an wheat person)

sarah lee bread taste like white
or either white wheat bread

the main thing i learned its not really about being low calorie you mainly have to realize portion size mean everything so i use a smaller plate so i cant tell the difference

edys light ice cream is alot better than reg. and there are tons of popsicles and fudgepops that are low cal

also i tend to use the outline that i learned with the micheal thurmond diet
i couldnt stick with the actual diet which consists of no salt or butter or dairy but the foundation was pretty good and that was
breakfast- protien , fruit
am snack- protein, fruit
lunch-protein, carb,veg
pm snack-protein, carb,veg
dinner-protein,carb,veggies

i had a hard time eating that many times but i would basically go by this
i think im going to start a grade my plate type thing
my favorite saying is more heads is better than 1

miafluker
09-12-2006, 06:26 PM
by the way melissa can you tell me more about the point thing, i do ww right now or was doing it was alot easier than counting calories because i can basically look in my fridge now and tell what i can eat without overeating

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 06:30 PM
Hi Mia!! See I dont like the whole wheat pasta its...prickly, its the texture I dont like. But you are right tastes the same if you can get past that. I like the Barilla Plus pasta and its got omega 3s added.

The sugar free dreyers icecream is REALLY good too!

You are so right, its all about portions and moderation. Thats exactly how I'm trying to look at things and just make better choices getting those portions.

the point challenge is basically each day you keep track of how many points you earn. And you set a point goal for yourself for the week or month. And then for example here is how you'd earn points:
1 point for drinking your goal in water
2 point for exercising
1 point for journalling
1 point for offering support to others
2 point for sticking to your eating plan
1 point for not eating past a certain time of night
1 point saying something nice about yourself
1 point for having healthy snacks

So for a perfect day you'd get 10 points.


~melissa

sapphire35
09-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Melissa thats funny a coworker and myself couldn't remember how to spell pizzazz, so we guessed. Lol. Good catch, am always at work so my typing is always fast and i tend to misspell alot of stuff. :D

But you have a lot of great ideas? We just all need to decide which ones we can we do as a group that would be fun and inspiring to all of us. I'm open to anything you ladies would like to try, cooking, reading, water, no meat, jogging, whatever.

Melissa you and Mia just gave me some great ideas for foods, and drinks that I didn't know of. That will help me with my variety of choices. Mia I also use the wheat noodles, they don't bother me at all.

Amanda: Let me know how you do with your jogging. I'm getting ready to go tackle mine in a few minutes at the gym. I'm going to try the whole routine for the full 20 minutes. Off and on rotatation of course. :carrot: You gotta start somewhere or it will never happen. Aqua has already started this if I remember correctly. How that going Aqua?

Amany
09-12-2006, 07:19 PM
Ha!

I'm gonna practice jogging in place at home. My reason? My husband isn't home and I rarely get to be home alone. I'm sure it would be better to go, but I'm just loving the solitude too much to give it up! :D

Hun.e.B
09-12-2006, 07:30 PM
LOL Trish I didnt even know you'd spelled it any different. I dont even know if I'm right! LOL!! See how observant I am!

~melissa

Amany
09-12-2006, 10:08 PM
I did it!!!

I jogged in place - and all around my apartment - for 30 minutes!!! I did five minutes of jogging and a minute of marching in place in intervals. Yes!!
Now, I'm sweating like a pig..... :o :D

miafluker
09-13-2006, 09:21 AM
hey everyone good morning i woke up with a question
i know when you exercise your suppose to hold your stomach in i have a hard time doing that so i i put on a girdle that does that would it be the same thing or different? im wondering
anyway my goal for today is to drink 64oz water today i think im going to come up with some type of motivation plan using mel's point system
well i hope everyone gets some will power dust in there day

Hun.e.B
09-13-2006, 10:00 AM
Good Morning!!! I'm happy to report that Day 2 was another smashing success! Stuck to my eating plan, had nothing I wasnt supposed to, healthy snacks, 100oz of water. Another big YaY for me!! The scary news is that I've got another trip to Costco to make today, I forgot yesterday to get juice and cookies for open house thursday night. Can I do as well as I did yesterday...of course I can!!! Nothing is worth giving up my goals for! not even cheesecake! LOL!!

Amanda...way to go lady!!! You did so great last night!!! How was the jogging? other than sweaty LOL! think its coming on the treadmill next?

Mia...Good morning! the point of holding in your abs when exercising is to strengthen your core muscles. The only way to work the muscles is to use them so I dont think the belt is going to do that for you. Unless someone else out there has some other info. Its really a hard thing to do in the beginning, at least for me anyway. You have to be totally conscious of it. Eventually it'll get easier and you'll have a nice strong core!

I was kinda surprised not to see Aqua here this morning, she's our resident early bird. I hope everything is okay. And Danielle was MIA all day yesterday!

Have a wonderful day everyone!! I plan on making Day 3 a success!!

~melissa

Amany
09-13-2006, 10:00 AM
I'm not sure Mia. The purpose of holding your stomach in while exercising is to hold the muscles tight so they can get the full benefit of the exercise. Plus holding them tight will help to stabilize the core. You don't want to cut off the flow of air though. That's why you shouldn't suck your stomach in.
Try concentrating on drawing your abdominals in and holding them tight. But make sure you breathe!! Use your lungs! It takes a lot of practice, I know. Try it when you're not exercising during the day as well. Those are not muscles that we're used to trying to control so it can be difficult at first. I have trouble with it too.

Amany
09-13-2006, 10:08 AM
Melissa, we posted at the same time. Congratulations on another successful day. Don't worry about Costco. You're stronger than that cheesecake! ;)
I hope the PTA appreciates all that you do. You're one busy mama!
The jogging actually felt good. After about 15 minutes, I got my second wind and it was great. Yes, the treadmill is definitely next. I'll go straight from work on Thursday. That way I won't be tempted to stay at home if my husband isn't there. If he stops his friend's house on the way home I'll never know it! :) That sounds awful, doesn't it? :lol:

AquaChick
09-13-2006, 11:25 AM
Hey ladies!


sapphire35- Yep, I jog/walk now. I do very limited increments, I never have been a great runner. I jog 5 and walk 10, and change the speed often. I do it for an hour a day. I think it is making me very strong in the legs. I can see muscles ripple in my thighs when I walk now. (no, it is not fat jiggling... I repeat: It is not fat jiggling.... :D lol...) It is also giving me endurance I have never known in my life. I recommend jogging to anyone that has prepared themselves. I don't think it's something someone like me could have just jumped into, and I am taking it slow. What I mean by "someone like me" is a history of heart problems that they should have cleared, and I think if you never did it you should ease into with fast walking for a while first. I sweat buckets doing this. I look like I had jumped in the shower fully clothed when my workout is done.

Well ladies, my husband bought me a lite chicken salad last night, and I ate it. So, I broke the no meat plan last night, but I am back on it again today. The salad really was light. Shredded boiled chicken, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and a very very minimal amound of finely shredded cheese. No dressing. I don't think it threw any wrenches at me, but it was big and I ate the whole thing, and I probably didn't need to. This is where I have been able to observe my most disturbing eating habit. Too much. I have been doing better, but I ate that salad like a rabid wolf and realized it when there were about 5 bites left. No wonder I got so overweight. All this progress and I still need to grasp the concept of portion control. You even need to learn to do that with healthy foods. But, to add, I'm sorry I ate any meat. I don't feel especially great about it this morning. I think I could easily adapt to vegetarianism, and I haven't even been eating that way a full week.

More good news is that my blue walking pants are falling off. So I can sing my song... *bada da-da-da another one bites the dust......*
Hubby says he can see I am shrinking and he gave me a big speech last night about how proud he is of me and he doesn't think he could behave himself on a diet like I have been , etc... :o It was really nice to get a big shpeel.

I'll be back later ladies, with more personals. :grouphug:

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 12:15 PM
:carrot: Good Morning Chickes:carrot:

Hello Melissa- don't worry you've got that whole Costco thing licked. Good job on the water yesterday. :cheer: It sounds like day 2 was a complete success. I'm like you, I love taking it one day at a time.

Amanda: I was so worn out yesterday after that jog. I did 5 mins of walking than 1 min of jogging at a speed of 4.8 on treadmill, 5 mins of walking, than 2 minutes of jogging. I did that for 20 minutes. I thought my legs were going to fall off. Then I did 30 minutes of strength training. Boy did that pump me up tho. Of course now you know I have to continue to beat that time on my jogging. I will do the same routine the rest of the week and next week I'll try to increase the jog to 3 minutes. I Hope!

Tonight my mother is going to go workout with me, yeah!:dancer: So we are going to take my baby and go the Rec-plex, (it a local YMCA sorta) and we are going to walk the track. While I push the baby in the stroller. They have this program for mothers with little ones. You can either power walk or jog with your baby in a stroller. Its suppose to be good for the muscles because of the weight of pushing the stroller. Plus the baby likes getting out and it lets her be apart of what I'm doing. My nephew said he wants to go and play basketball while we're there also. So kinda a family affair. My mom wants to go tonight and Friday with me.

Aqua: :wave: Whats up. Missed you yesterday. I'm glad your Hubby is being so supportive. :high: You are getting awesome results from all your hard work. It makes you want it more when you start seeing the results. I can't wait to see your weigh in this week! Your rocking girl!:belly:

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 12:25 PM
Mia: Goodmorning, boy your thinking everything on that abdomen aren't you? lol.:D I never would have thought of that. Unfornuately I don't know if it will work or not. I'd listen to what the other ladies said. I can hardly ever keep my stomach held in while I exercise.

Sugar-N-Spice
09-13-2006, 01:13 PM
Among the land of the living, yes I am! But barely. I slept all day yesterday hoping that maybe some extra rest would help me out. I think it did a little bit, but I still have this stupid cough that keeps me up all night. Even with Nyquil. I've done the meds, vicks vaporub, coughdrops, even the kids cough patches. Nothing lets me sleep all night. My lungs get so aggitated that it sets me into coughing fits for minutes at a time. Blech! I still cannot workout. I exert myself for 2 minutes and I'm coughing badly. Basically, this week is gonna be a bust I think. I've eaten, but then I havent'..it's been so-so. I hope next week is better!

Definitely practice holding your abs in even when you're not working out. I had an old Susan Powter video(anyone remember her? Stop the Insanity!!!) and she would always stress practicing holding your core tight throughout the day so that exercise would get easier. I am amazed at how much better I look when I do it too! Everything stops jiggling. LOLOLOLOL

It looks like everyone is doing super duper this week, I am so proud of all of you! Looking forward to seeing what those week end results will be! I see people doing things they don't normally do and finding success, that is absolutely fantastic!! How inspiring you guys are, I couldn't be prouder to belong here.

:grouphug:

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 01:25 PM
Okay what do you ladies think of this idea. :?: I saw this on a challenge thread. I think it would be a lot of fun to do.

Heres the jest of it. We pick somewhere we would like to go. Like say for instance I have family in Arkansas and they're sick right now. I would really like to go see them. But versus driving the 9 hours I would like to walk or bike to see them, whichever is best for you. It takes 567 miles to get there by car. We figure out how long it would takes us to get there if we were :running: , :ebike: , or :tread: . For Instance if I bike 9 miles a day it would take me 63 days so I could be there by early december. So December first would be my goal to accomplish this visit. Now Of course you know we're not actually going. We would just try to do these exercises as if we were.

And each day we would just discuss how far we got? I thought it was neat, what you ladies think. I'm I nuts or what?

lovethatsara
09-13-2006, 01:38 PM
trish thats a good idea. I'm going to pretend that Hawaii isnt surrounded by water and I can just walk across hehehe.

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 01:41 PM
Danielle Hello, dear I hope you get better soon. :hug: Being sick SuccccccKs! It good your up about for little bit today! You were missed yesterday. You keep taking care of yourself. You'll be on your feet in no time. Its getting colder here where I'am right now. And alot of my family is starting to get sick. I'm trying to keep my baby away from them. I don't want her catching anything, Knock on wood she is a year old and has never had as much as a sniffle. She gets RSV shots starting in Nov. Not looking forward to RSV season at all. Nor the season changes.

Aren't these chicks on here amazing!!! :carrot: :carrot: I Love that I found you guys. I checked out other threads but I really like this thread alot. You guys show accountability ever day and I like that. I have to thank Melissa for that. She gave me the invite. THANKS MELISSA.:thanks:

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 01:46 PM
sara, I'm definitely up for the challenge. We can go as far as we want. lol. And its free. When I get my 567 miles in by jogging and walking. I want to go to New York, whew!

Hawaii is going to be far, Man how long will you give yourself? I bet you can do it by early spring versus summer.

AquaChick
09-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Hi Amany, Hun.e.B,miafluker,needhelp27, TriciaK, brat_61886, Butterfly50, Sugar-N-Spice,lovethatsara, Altari,sapphire35, and anyone else if I missed them I'm soooo sorry! :hug:

:) :) :) :) :)



I think treading to Ireland might be fun...lol.....

Hun.e.B
09-13-2006, 03:33 PM
Hello girls!! Trish I love that challenge. We did it years ago and called it Tour de Slimfast (we were all using the Slimfast plan) and we toured the entire globe, man did we rack up the miles! I think its an excellent idea for an exercise challenge. I cant participate just yet but you know I'll be there cheering you all on to your destinations!!!

Its SO smokey here today, its just unreal how just standing out there I can feel myself breathing heavier and my throat is sore.

I'm having another successful day today!! Of course its only lunchtime but I'll win this battle! I just have to keep myself busy busy during my trouble time of day and i've got TONS of homework to do it!

I hope everyone else is having a fantastic day too!! Are you drinking your water?

~melissa

Amany
09-13-2006, 03:51 PM
Hello Ma'Ladies :wave:

Aqua - I know exactly what you mean about wolfing down food. It's like you're in a trance-like state and something else has taken over. I've learned how to deal with that.
Every now and then I'll stop eating, take a few swallows of water and ask myself if I'm satisfied. Not stuffed, but satisfied. Sometimes you'll have to give yourself a minute or two to figure it out. If I'm satisfied, then I immediately put the food away. If I don't, I'll be tempted to eat it. It takes practice. I still struggle with that a bit, but it's helped me about 80% of the time.
I figured out something very interesting while doing this. I have learned that, when I pay attention, I can tell when compulsion is creeping up. Honest to goodness, it's like a sort of muddled craziness or "busy"ness that I can sense creeping up and I feel like going into an eating frenzy. I have actually learned to recognize that. Yes, I know that sounds creepy. It feels creepy too.
If eating vegan works for you and makes you feel good then I think you should do it. But if you ever feel like having some fish or chicken, you should have it. Chicken is our friend. :) Weird thing about food obsession. It rears it's ugly head in many ways. You'll either overeat, fear food or become a food **** that wants to dictate what and how everyone eats. When we eat off plan we sometimes feel the need to punish ourselves; making us feel even worse and more discouraged. None of it is healthy.
I'm glad your husband is noticing your hard work. Doesn't it just put you on cloud 9? I think I kiss my husband everytime he tells me I look nice or that I'm toning up. :lol: It feels good and it's motivating. Another pair of pants, huh? Wow, you are doing a really fantastic job! :bravo: We're all proud of you.

Trish - Great job on the walk / jog lady! You're going to whittle away in no time. Then you did some strength training! You are really turning it around. You're doing fantastic. That fitness club of yours sounds great.

Danielle - You're starting to scare me. I think you should at least call the doctor. And go in if they want you to. One of my coworkers had the same symptoms as you and it turned out that he had bronchiitis.
Please be very careful and take care of yourself the way you'd take care of one of your children when they get sick. By now I'm sure you'd have called the doctor for one of them.
Drink plenty of herbal tea and water. I hope you feel better soon. :hug:

Well, I'd better go. Duty calls. I'll check up on you lovelies later. Bye!!!

Amany
09-13-2006, 03:57 PM
Melissa I missed you again! Congratulations on another successful day. :D

lovethatsara
09-13-2006, 04:07 PM
TRISH! - I just looked up miles and guess what? Hawaii is 2,390 miles from California; 3,850 miles from Japan. I'm going to be walking forever!!!! I guess I'll try and walk to california, I wouldnt be able to put myself on a map though because i wouldnt be able to tell where the mile markers would be. hehe.

Can I pretend I'm somewhere else and start from there? hehehe

Sugar-N-Spice
09-13-2006, 05:11 PM
Thanks Trish, Amanda & Aqua! :hug: I am feeling a little better everyday, its just taking its sweet ole time! :rolleyes: I don't have any fever and my cough is dry and extremelt annoying. I can really feel my lungs clench up when I start with the cough & that is the bothersome part. I keep waiting for whatever is in there to break up if there is anything? I just wish the cough would minimize or produce! LOL

Trish, seems like you've got a great idea for a challenge. Melissa did our "tour de slimfast" it was a lot of fun.

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 05:23 PM
Okay sara I've changed my location to New York, New York. I wanted to press myself a little harder. Plus I've always wanted to go to New York. I looked it up and it is 964.7 miles. That would take me approximately 4.5 months. I'm using a calculation 9 miles a day roughly.

Are we All up for this! :carrot: :carrot: If so lets get walking, jogging, and bicycling. We have a lot of ground to cover. I want to be at my destination by January. Before I freeze on the highways or get ranned over.

Wow Aqua Ireland, interesting. What do you like about Ireland? Isn't it cold there all the time? I'd loved to go Africa, just once! But I'm afraid to fly overseas, so I'll probably only get there by exercising.

Amanda I haven't gotten to the point of knowing when complusion is going to happen. Thats saying alot! You sound like your getting to the point were your not craving at all anymore. You got :dust: to walk away. Love It!!!

Thanks for the compliment on my work out. I'm just trying to keep up with you and Aqua. :woops: You guys workout more than I do right now!

Melissa: Will call it Tour De Highways. Good idea! Melissa join in whenever you can. I'm just grateful you'll be there to cheer us on and keep us on track.

Tour De Highways

New York 0 ml /964.7 mls By January

I shall start tonight.

Amany
09-13-2006, 05:25 PM
Danielle, I think whatever is ailing you will be over soon. Because I feel awful!

It's this change of season weather. One minute its cool and breezy, the next it's humid. Now it's cool and rainy and my sinuses are draining. I have the ickiness draining at the back of my throat. Yuck!! :barf:

When I leave here I'm going to the grocery store, picking up some soup (I won't even look at the number of carbs, calories or fat) and going home. Then I'm going to eat my soup guilt-free, take some meds and go to bed. I feel like it's getting worse by the moment.

I'm going to be in bed before 8 and pray that I can stay asleep until tomorrow morning. I may even make myself a hot toddy. With plenty of "toddy". :lol:

miafluker
09-13-2006, 05:27 PM
okay are you guys saying your doing 9 miles a day? how many minutes is that
i would love to join but all i plan to do for cardio is kickboxing and elliptical
would that work?

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 05:42 PM
Mia: The Elliptical definitely works, sure. Does it keep up with miles? I can't remember. I just used 9 miles for me, because thats about what I average. I'm getting anywhere from 9 or 10 miles on the bike (25 minutes). You can do whatever is best for you. Sometimes I only get in 2 or 3 miles on the treadmill, so thats all I can count that day. You get the drift. Maybe if the Elliptical doesn't having miles you can use a pediometer (however you spell it).

OMG Amanda are you getting the nasty flue bug too. :yikes: Girls!!! We can't let this weather get us. That toddy sounds good to me and I'm not even sick.:D Hope you feel better. Where falling like :df:

Amany
09-13-2006, 05:44 PM
BTW Trish. I think your plan is fantastic. I think I'll walk / jog / trot to Las Vegas!!!

Mia - I'm not familiar with the elliptical. It wouldn't happen to calculate miles, would it?

Amany
09-13-2006, 05:54 PM
:o I think I'll have to make it another city. Like Memphis or NY. Or maybe St Louis. I'm supposed to go there next June.

I'll be travelling by foot. If I walk to Vegas it will take me at least 2 years to get there. I think I got a little carried away...

AquaChick
09-13-2006, 05:59 PM
Hun.e.B- Hi! :hug: Glad to hear you are having a successful day! :)

Amany- I'm going to practice what you do. I can't believe how it must have looked for me to eat that salad. Sometimes I am really taken aback at things I never realized I did/do. I have to remind myself, hey chick, it's only food. It's sitting there on the plate and it only moves as fast as you force it to. I do not like that compulsion. Terrible feeling to realize what you have just done. :(

:hug: Thanks. I am proud of you ladies too.


lovethatsara- lol, you'll make it.... :D Nothing like a brisk walk....

Sugar-N-Spice- I hope you feel like a million bucks when that nasty cough finally packs up and heads outta town. Poor thing. I know I hate being sick. :hug:

sapphire35- I would love to see Africa at least once too! My maiden name is Irish, so I kind of have an attatchment to the Irish. I have more than one family heritage, but I have always been drawn to that particular place.


Okay, I will figure out my miles, and let you know how much I plan to tread a day to get there. I'm not afraid of throwing in a little more elbow grease...:woops:

AquaChick
09-13-2006, 06:11 PM
3844 miles .

** in Astro from Jetson's voice** Rut Row Rorge........

All right people. If I walk 12 miles a day, I can make it to Dublin in 320.33 days.

I'll do it. I can walk 12 miles a day.... ***husband in background*** "Run Forrest!!!!!! Run!!!!!!!"

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Amanda :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: 2 years, now thats a long time!

I have any of you seen the dance call "Lean wit Rock wit it". I swear these carrots are doing :carrot: :cb: that dance. If you can do what they're doing then you can do the dance. Its really popular now. Lol

Wow Aqua thats a big challenge. When should you be getting there Forrest?:D

sapphire35
09-13-2006, 06:24 PM
Amanda if you actually do come to St. Louis next year, we are definitely going to have hook up in our new skinny girl clothes and go out. Hehehehehe

miafluker
09-13-2006, 06:39 PM
Amanda :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: 2 years, now thats a long time!

I have any of you seen the dance call "Lean wit Rock wit it". I swear these carrots are doing :carrot: :cb: that dance. If you can do what they're doing then you can do the dance. Its really popular now. Lol

Wow Aqua thats a big challenge. When should you be getting there Forrest?:D

hehe the carrots do it better than me

AquaChick
09-13-2006, 06:49 PM
:lol:

It's gonna take me longer. I will be able to go 8 miles a day for sure. That's and extra hour and some minutes, but anything more will be a day when I have nothing else to do but run. I will get there sometime next year. I will make it though.

***fades off into sunset doing my typical sloppy run.... arms all flopping at sides and head facing up......****

lovethatsara
09-13-2006, 06:52 PM
wow i wish i had enough time to walk and run that many miles in a day. I have no idea how much i walk I need to get a pedometer

Amany
09-13-2006, 08:00 PM
Ok, if I walk at least 14 miles every week, I'll make it to St. Louis by June 18. Trish thank you for suggesting this to us!! :hug: :grouphug:
I can't predict the moment that a compulsion will happen. But I can feel it creeping up. I've learned to recognize the signs.
I've seen the Lean Back dance. :lol: That carrot and banana are hip, aren't they?? Oh wait.... You said Lean Wit It.... I am soooo out of the loop. :lol: I'm in my mid thirties and I don't have teens around me on the normal basis. I'm completely out of touch. :( :shrug: :lol:
One of my friends attends the Baptist Conventions every year. It's in St. Louis next June. I'm going to meet her there for about three days of it. While she's in the workshops and classes learning about the Bible, I'll be wandering the streets of St. Louis looking for sin!! j/k :lol: We'll definitely have to hang out.

Aqua Eight miles a day! You go girl!! I'm gonna try my best to keep up with you. :running: It might be kinda hard though. :faint:
:hug: Don't get down on yourself about the salad. This is a learning process for all of us.

Sara - Pack some extra walking shoes, chicky!!! You'll make it, you'll make it! :)

Well, I'd better go. The toddy is starting to kick in real good. :lol3: I haven't had a whole lot of carbs, so it takes it no time. :D

Hun.e.B
09-13-2006, 08:36 PM
Just poppin on quickly to say...you know you could also gauge it, by saying for every mile walked, biked, jogged, ellipticalled (is that a word? LOL) is 2 or 5 miles off your trip. For those trips that are thousands of miles away. You just gotta convert it thats all! Have a great night all!!

~melissa

rkrs6673
09-13-2006, 08:48 PM
Hello ladies- i am also just stopping in. I am so tired today and plan on getting in some great workouts this weekend etc. I hope everyone has had a great day! For me I am staying OP and I like being back in school because it keeps me busy etc. Anyway have a nice night ladies I need to go and cook and clean...oh the joys :)

miafluker
09-13-2006, 08:58 PM
okay here i go if understand correct it takes 940miles to get from my house to my in-laws in new orleans
so if i do 2miles a day then it will take me 470days to get there thats like 15months
good googly moogly okay mel i think im going to tweak it like mel said if i do a mile then ill take off a mile
also when i do kickboxing the calories amount that i burn will determine how many miles that will make it and each day i will increase what i did to challenge myself tomorrow will be day one

lovethatsara
09-13-2006, 09:23 PM
OK girls, I need some help! I'm going to try and get ontop of my weight loss journey. I'm making something right now to throw ontop of my fridge and probably one in my computer room at home that's going to be daily, weekly and monthly goals and then my reward chart for hitting my hot points (every 20lbs lost i'm going to reward myself)

I need some help with goals. my head hurts right now and I cant think. Right now for weekly I have excersize everyday, and for daily I have drink 100 ounces of water daily, eat all three meals a day expecially breakfast ( i tend to skip it) to aim for losing 2lbs a week.

What are some of your daily, weekly, monthly goals?

Hun.e.B
09-13-2006, 10:21 PM
you are totally on track, just expand from there, how many miles do you want to exercise this month? Or how many days in a month do you want to exercise, How many pounds per month...8? Or would you rather do inches lost monthly. The other thing you can do is go for points. Did you see the point challenge? Work one out for yourself and then go for X amount of points for the month. Daily...girl just take it one day at a time! But most of all dont forget to reward yourself! Non food rewards!

I overate dinner tonight and I feel so gross right now!!! How do we do that night after night? This feeling alone is enough to change my evil ways!! Ugh!! Portion control is a good thing!!

Have a lovely evening!

~melissa

Hun.e.B
09-13-2006, 10:23 PM
Dont forget to put motivational quotes on your fridge too! Like....nothing tastes as good as fit and healthy feels!, Nothing is worth giving up my goals for! I'm worth all the hard work!! Stuff like that!

~melissa

AquaChick
09-14-2006, 08:13 AM
Good Morning Ladies!!!!


Just wanted to say hi before I get rolling with my day! I hope you all have a wonderful and successful day!

miafluker
09-14-2006, 09:05 AM
you are totally on track, just expand from there, how many miles do you want to exercise this month? Or how many days in a month do you want to exercise, How many pounds per month...8? Or would you rather do inches lost monthly. The other thing you can do is go for points. Did you see the point challenge? Work one out for yourself and then go for X amount of points for the month. Daily...girl just take it one day at a time! But most of all dont forget to reward yourself! Non food rewards!

I overate dinner tonight and I feel so gross right now!!! How do we do that night after night? This feeling alone is enough to change my evil ways!! Ugh!! Portion control is a good thing!!

Have a lovely evening!

~melissa

mel i was reading something yesterday and it said when we skip breakfast it makes up hungry more later, so then we over eat at dinner which is worst because we dont use as much carbs then when the next breakfast we arent hungry because we ate alot the past dinner i hope im making since get some carnation instant breakfast its pretty good especially warm and it has protien and dairy plus it dosent cost as much as the protein shakes

Hun.e.B
09-14-2006, 09:56 AM
Breakfast is a habit that got instilled in me way back in the slimfast days. Thats why I loved that plan so much because even if I was in a rush I could always just grab my shake and go. Yesterday for breakfast I had a shake and a bowl of cantelope. I think what caused my overeating yesterday was that my lunch had very very little protein. And I didnt have my big salad before dinner too so I was HUNGRY! There was a time when i didnt realize the importance of that protein. But it sure proved its point to me yesterday.

Whew where is this morning going? Gotta get the first daughter out the door! This afternoon we have dentist appointments and tonight is open house at both the girls' schools but since I'm PTA pres. at one I gotta be there the entire night to recruit parents. Plus survivor starts tonight!!! Does ER as well? I gotta check on that!! Lets not forget homework too! Have a wonderful day everyone! I'll be back later to check on you!

Butterfly50
09-14-2006, 10:36 AM
Good Morning Ladies,
Things are pretty slow here. I have not been on plan here this week. The plummer is finally finished THanks God. No more shutting off the water. My Son I think is pretty much decided that he is going to his mom to stay for a while. Thank God on that one so with both of my problems finally done I can get on track and kicking some butt on exercise. I cant wait to have the housae all to my self from 8 am to 3 pm boy will I be back in heaven. I can do what I want and when I want. I know this my sound bad But I feel more comfortable working out in my livivng room with my shorts and my sports Bra most off the time. I feel that if Iam sweating that is all that matters and the clothes wont cling to me and make me feel uncomfortable. Thats jest my opion.
I see that since I have been on the side lines you ladies have done alot of chatting I havnt been able to get on too much still trying to get my Programs switched over to the new computer.. By the way I love it . I am jest having trouble doing my family tree program I have to goin and type all the info for the 3000 people I currently have in their. I will stop with the borning things . will be back in progress in no time.

Amany
09-14-2006, 10:36 AM
Mia - When I don't eat breakfast, I'm starving for the rest of the day. I overeat at lunch and dinner. Since I don't have much of an appetite in the mornings anymore, I have to make myself eat. Usually a piece of sausage and some berries. Or sausage and an egg. Or, like this morning, 25 almonds. The weird thing is that I'm always hungry around morning snack time (10 or 10:15). Even when I've had breakfast. It's like it takes my body until then to work up a decent hunger. :shrug:
I'm sorry I wasn't much help with they elliptical. Does it tell you what speed you're going while you're on it?

Melissa - You're so busy that I never want you to miss breakfast! :faint:
Just put last night behind you. Chalk it up to a lesson learned and move past it. You're still doing a great job. Keep it up, chicky!!

Aqua - Good morning lady!! :wave:

Sara - Try getting in two healthy snacks as well. They can be small. It will keep your metabolism going and keep you from overeating due to hunger at your next meal.

I feel a little better today. I still have a bit of that nastiness in the back of my throat though. I'd better not go the hot toddy route again. I had a hard time getting up this morning. I couldn't drag myself out of I'm sure it didn't help that I took some sinus meds too. I know I'm not supposed to do that...

A friend of mine mixing me up a batch of essential oils to send to me. She swears by it. Isn't that sweet of her. I have another friend who eats and onion by itselfs raw and makes ginger root tea. I'll do anything to avoid sinus meds because they dry me out horrilby and make me sleepy. Even the non-drowsy stuff.

Well duty calls. BBL!

Hun.e.B
09-14-2006, 11:00 AM
Amanda...I get hungry earlier too its because eating breakfast gets your metabolism going which is another reason not to skip it! It really is the most important meal of the day! I hope you are feeling much much much better today! We dont need another sickie!! *HINT HINT DANIELLE*! LOL!!

Bonnie...so things are going back to normal and you can get back to business!! I dont think it matters a bit what you wear to workout just so you do it!! I hope you get your house back soon! I know I love my quiet times of day where everyone is still sleeping or at work and school!

Aqua....Good morning sunshine!!!!

Hey I'm gonna do a fall challenge if anyone wants to do it with me. Nothing drastic and its a weight lost challenge. Where you make a tree and some leaves and you take a leaf off the tree for every pound lost. The first day of fall is September 23rd..next saturday so thats when I'm starting and fall is about 13 weeks long. Anyway, I'll get mine built and take a picture and post it so you can see what I mean. You can decorate for fall and challenge yourself!

have a good one!

~melissa

iwantnewpants
09-14-2006, 11:58 AM
HELLO FROM NO MAN'S LAND! :o

I've been terrible about posting this week. Up until today I had the great pleasure of working from the computer in my office that is still a dial-up connection. Yes, my boss is 9007 and doesn't understand the beauty of hi-techedness. Okay, so that's not a word.

Anywho, I've been keeping up on all the posts and all I have to say is that no one talked about the greatest FOL moment of last weekend....

Buckwild: "I just paid $30K to get my A#$ out of prison and I'm on probation. I ain't goin' back to prison for no one!" :carrot:

I don't think I've ever laughed that hard in my entire life! My roommate and I were on the floor!

Anywho, it seems like everyone is doing great! Which is fantastic!

I have to get back to my crummy job, but everyone have a fabulous day and I'll check in later! :hug:

Liz

sapphire35
09-14-2006, 12:41 PM
:coffee2: GoodMorning :cofdate:

Iwantnewpants: You've got me quacking up about Buckwild, she is so country! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Tell your boss he needs to get with the program and get some new stuff. How does he expect you to work effectionately under those conditions. lol

Bonnie: I'm glad all that plumbing is over for you. I bet you can't wait to start jumping around and sweating those pounds away. :carrot: You were going so strong not long ago, you were a machine. Bring it on girly!;)

Melissa: The fall challenge sounds neat. Of course I don't know how I'm going to make this tree. I'll wait and see yours. You are so involved with your kids and their school, I applaud you for that. :cp: I thinks that is just wonderful.

Aqua: Good Morning lady, How are you today?

Hello Amanda, Sara, Danielle, Mia, and Kenya. :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :dance:

Everyone is setting great goals and milestones. Love this. I got my 8.6 miles in last night and some strength training. I was shooting for 10 but didn't succeed. I try again tonight.

Gotta Go Baby is running a fever of 101.4. Doctor wants to see her. Someone passed a flue buggggggggggggggg! She doesn't even a cough or sniffle though. We'll see. BBL

miafluker
09-14-2006, 12:59 PM
yes mine has the distance and i have a pedometer my problem with breafast is that i normally have coffee then dont eat until like 10 or 11, also i get up kinda late because im fortunate enough to have a baby that sleep during the night and dont wake until 10am:carrot: but anyways i read that you should set and alarm clock so thats what im trying to do this morning i had an potatoe omlet made with 1egg,1egg white and the diced up frozen hashbrown and made a omlett out of it it was pretty good plus that means i had my protien and carb for the morning im trying to follow this body for life diet it seems really doable here is the site i know i cant give the link
just put the . before the com im not ding the acutal challenge that you sign up for im just using the info to do my own challenge it has alot of great info
bodyforlife com/challenge
Mia - When I don't eat breakfast, I'm starving for the rest of the day. I overeat at lunch and dinner. Since I don't have much of an appetite in the mornings anymore, I have to make myself eat. Usually a piece of sausage and some berries. Or sausage and an egg. Or, like this morning, 25 almonds. The weird thing is that I'm always hungry around morning snack time (10 or 10:15). Even when I've had breakfast. It's like it takes my body until then to work up a decent hunger. :shrug:
I'm sorry I wasn't much help with they elliptical. Does it tell you what speed you're going while you're on it?

Melissa - You're so busy that I never want you to miss breakfast! :faint:
Just put last night behind you. Chalk it up to a lesson learned and move past it. You're still doing a great job. Keep it up, chicky!!

Aqua - Good morning lady!! :wave:

Sara - Try getting in two healthy snacks as well. They can be small. It will keep your metabolism going and keep you from overeating due to hunger at your next meal.

I feel a little better today. I still have a bit of that nastiness in the back of my throat though. I'd better not go the hot toddy route again. I had a hard time getting up this morning. I couldn't drag myself out of I'm sure it didn't help that I took some sinus meds too. I know I'm not supposed to do that...

A friend of mine mixing me up a batch of essential oils to send to me. She swears by it. Isn't that sweet of her. I have another friend who eats and onion by itselfs raw and makes ginger root tea. I'll do anything to avoid sinus meds because they dry me out horrilby and make me sleepy. Even the non-drowsy stuff.

Well duty calls. BBL!

lovethatsara
09-14-2006, 01:43 PM
Okay so last night I wanted to scream! I'm not sure if the littest things are bothering me because i've been pmsing or what. I came home from work all happy, I set new goals up and little rewards, for every daily goal i completed i was going to put in 10cent for every 25cents and for every monthly $1. At first he said when I showed him he said i was rewarding myself twice. Then said my rewards I wanted were too expensive and he should start a jar of his own. I told him for what? He said just because I was going to have one. Then percedes to go on this whole speal about how all my gifts were expensive and were on a budget and that I shouldnt have to reward myself for doing something i already should be doing the reward should be getting down to a healthy weight not all this stuff, pretty much what your saying is the only weigh you can lose weight is if you get stuff. I finally just said okay. I really didnt want to fight, I was happy before I got home. I ended up not putting up the new chart i made.

I hope you girls are doing good :)

Sugar-N-Spice
09-14-2006, 03:09 PM
Howdy! :wave:

I think I may just be getting better. I spent all evening last night hacking and by around 1am I could feel some of it breaking up, I started sneezing a lot and blowing my nose.This morning hasn't been to bad despite the box of tissue I have to carry around. At least the cough isn't so violent this morning!

I love the idea for the exercise challenge. I think I will be heading towards San Francisco. Not sure exactly how far that is yet but figure its a good walk. :)

The fall tree is another super idea! I did this way back when and it was a lot of fun. The best part was getting to see those leaves fall. Can't wait to see yours Melissa.

I am terrified to weigh in tomorrow! I feel like I have gained. I've pretty much been a big lump all week and if I don't workout no matter how well I eat I just don't lose. Dh was trying to be thoughtful and brought home a shake for me a few times to soothe my throat. Ack! I can just feel the fat jumping back on me! ;)

Sara, girl you need to display that reward chart proudly! I'm sorry, but not to be harsh, your BF?, or was it your dad? I can't remember! Either way, he has no clue what you struggle with each day. Just how would he handle your journey if the roles were reversed?? I am more than sure he would love your support and know that no matter what you will always be there for him. Maybe you need to give him a reminder of what it would mean to you, but make it clear that negative comments are not welcome. He's supposed to be lifting you up, not tear you down!
Always know that we are here for you, I personally love your idea for rewards. :hug:

AquaChick
09-14-2006, 03:36 PM
miafluker- Hi! :hug:

Hun.e.B- Sounds like you have a busy day and evening ahead of you! :) Take care! :hug:

Butterfly50- A lot of us like to work out at home for the sake of comfort and privacy. Not a thing wrong with that. :) I don't wear a shirt when I work out, just a sports bra, unless my kids are around, then I wear my sports bra and a tank. I wear loose pants so they won't cling to me. I hate that too. I started wearing a sweat band on my head. I could care less what a geek I look like...lol... :D I don't particularly enjot sweat stinging my eyes either...

Amany- Aw, I hope you get to feeling better. :hug:

iwantnewpants- Buckwild... lol... that was something else.... she was so mad, that "mysterious accent" of hers just took off.... lol...

sapphire35- Hi! :) I hope that your little baby gets to feeling better. Poor baby. :(

lovethatsara- Hi! :hug: You DO deserve to reserve rewards for yourself. You know you deserve it, this is not an easy thing to do.

Sugar-N-Spice- Glad to hear you seem to be recovering a bit. Don't worry about the weigh in. Just do it, and whatever happens, happens. If it doesn't tell you what you want to hear you could drop kick the doggone thing back into the closet until next week if you have to. :D lol...

Sugar-N-Spice
09-14-2006, 05:39 PM
Amanda, I hope you are feeling better today. Can't have you getting sick when you are doing so well with everything, can we? Lots of rest, lots of fluids, and lots of cuddle time with dh is what I prescribe! One thing I gotta say is my dh really makes it comfy for me when I'm not feeling well. Sometimes it makes it hard to even wanna get better! LOL

Aqua, how ya doing today? Yep, definitely not going to worry about weigh in tomorrow, I know it's not going to be what I want. I may just skip the whole thing and not worry about it til next week. Why mess with my head?

Liz, great to see ya chicky!!! The look on Flav's face when Buckwilde's accent disappeared! Priceless!! :lol: Like I keep telling the other girls, sometimes I really have to refrain from wanting to switch channels, cause frankly, those "girls" scare me! lol

Trish, how are ya mama? I hope today is another super day for you, you're doing so well!

Melissa, we need to clone you. You are in 10 places at one time!! I guess on the plus side this could work in favor for you, no time to dwell on food, right? lol I hope everything goes well tonight at the school and lots and lots of people sign up to support the school!! You have done an awesome job the last few days, I am so very proud of you. Keep it up lady, good things are happening!!!

Bonnie, it's good to see you. :wave:

If I forgot anyone, I'm sorry. I'm headed out to go get my kids, but I wanted to drop in real quick!!! Be good ladies, I'll be back later.

:grouphug:

miafluker
09-14-2006, 05:47 PM
okay i forgot to put on my pedom but i did 20min of turbo jam today wow im tired hope you guys are okay im need a nap

sapphire35
09-14-2006, 05:50 PM
I am back, little one is to young to get antibotics. At least thats what the doc said. So she has a really bad sore throat coming along. :eek: She is suppose to let it run its course.

Sara: Don't get mad but my goodness, if he was my man I tell him to go **** himself. :frypan: But I know thats not the proper approach. So I agree with everything that Danielle said. He's got this attitude of, " just do it already, if your going to do. No incentives, No rewards just do it. He's basically saying you know you need to lose the weight, so lose it". But you know what that is definitely the wrong attitude to have. We need they're support so much, yes we're doing this for ourselves, but we're also doing this for them as well. We want them to be proud of the person there with or at least I do. We want them to care about our goals and be apart of them as well. This is hard, it is not easy and I know he can see how difficult this journey is. So he needs to be way more supportive and not so negative. That will on discourage you, as it did already. :devil: Ignore it and keep on going with your rewards. Don't get discourage you can do this SARA with or without his support. It will be harder if he doesn't conquer but you will succeed. Stay with us we are all here for you. I'm sorry he is being a jerk but I do believe he will come around.

Danielle: I'm so glad your feeling better. :hug: San francisco sounds fun. We're all going to be on the road for a while. :D

Mia: I'm so glad you have distance and a pedometer. Now you can be all over the Tour De Highway. The body for life diet definitely looks doable. I really have to watch my carbs. Because I like them alot and I will gorge on them. So I kinda just gotta stick to fruit and veggies and meat right now. I do do a few carbs here and there. Maybe twice a week right now. If its working don't stop still the weight drops. :carrot: :carrot:

sapphire35
09-14-2006, 06:15 PM
Amanda: Sounds like your feeling better. We need yah, stay up! It sounds like your practicing a little voodooooo. :D Are people going to be able to stand around you? Hope it works. If it does I'll be asking you send some my way.

We will definitely hook up when you come to St. Louuie. I was thinking man I better make sure my weight is all gone by then. So therefore you are another incentive for me to really lose the weight.

lovethatsara
09-14-2006, 07:07 PM
I went online gmail and they have chat... it went like this:

Me: I've thought a lot about what you said, about the rewards, and they are too expensive most of them. I'm going to rework it so their more realistic.
Matt: Rewards are good, as long as they are realistic...[
Me: it made me really upset though, that youíre not being supportive of me though.
Matt: I am supportive, but you have to be realistic
Me: yes I realize with that that it wasnít realistic rewards, that it was too expensive and our budget wouldnít cut it. what iím saying is that I come home happy everyday and want to tell you how iím doing but when I do your usually negative and sometimes I feel like maybe I shouldnít talk about it
Matt: The only thing I'm negative about was how much the rewards cost... other than that, it's all good.
me: i'm talking about what you always say " nothing will work other than running thatís it, donít bother doing the videos until after you lose weight it wont work nothing works other than running" or when I did do the videos you made fun of me. I want to tell you things I want to let you into my life more
Matt: But I was trying to help. Running will lose the weight, and the videos will get you in shape. The videos/walking can NEVER take the place of running. And you hardy even -run-
Me: I know I hardly run anymore. I know youíre trying to help I know that. The other day I told you I was happy about loosing 15lbs so far and you just said okay. And last night u said to loose 20lbs isnít that great itís not that much...itís a big deal to me
Matt: It is a lot, but it's not worth a hundred and something bucks either... not when youíre supposed to be doing this for your own health
Me: I am doing it for my heath but u should be happy Iím loosing
Iím starting to think you would like me better skinny....
Matt: I am happy. I want you to be healthy, the actually weight doesn't matter to be. But it seems to matter so a lot to you. I don't want you to die of obesity.
me: I guess what iím really feeling is neighbors that I donít even talk to say I look good, and my own fiancť doesnít even say it
Matt: You do, but your slacking on the running. Nothing pisses me off more than someone being lazy, and I haven't seen you run in like...forever. So yeah, when you -talk- about getting healthy and you won't do what needs to be done to accomplish that goal, I'm going to get pissed. Youíre cheating yourself.


I guess i didnt do as good as i thought i was going to.

miafluker
09-14-2006, 07:33 PM
hi im back i needed that power nap
i decided im going to tweak the challenge a bit sonce i also do workout videos im going to do minutes instead of miles so it takes roughly 20hours to new orleans so thats 1200 minutes since i did 20 minutes today then ill have 1180 left

Hun.e.B
09-14-2006, 07:45 PM
Sara...you need to tell Matt how incredibly unsupportive he's being. And by treating you the way he is he is holding you back from success. Its not a wonder you are in the struggle with weight that you are when thats the kind of support you've got at home. Now I'm sure he feels he's being supportive but all he's really being is passive abusive. It doesnt matter what your rewards cost, you deserve them if (and WHEN) you reach your goals!! matt is supposed to be your soft place to fall, and in my opinion hes telling you that you are a failure. Now how is that going to motivate you? the old saying goes, just because someone doesnt love you the way you want them to, doesnt mean that they dont love you at all. The same goes here, just because you arent fighting this battle the way that he wants you doesnt mean you arent fighting the battle at all. We believe in you Sara! I know you are going to win this battle! Always know that we are right behind you helping you in anyway that we can!! You can do this! You are gonna do this!! And NOONE can stop you!!!

~melissa

Amany
09-14-2006, 08:02 PM
Hey everyone.

I promise to get to personals later. Just wanted to say hello and that I'm going to make myself workout. Gosh I don't feel like it. I wish I didn't have problems with my sinues. :mad:

Sara - What it really comes down to is that your fiance should be supporting you. Not raining on your parade. Whether or not he understands why you're going about the way you are. You should not have to be put on the defensive about this.

Any time I'd talk to my husband about working out in the past he'd bring up doing wind sprints and shadow boxing. He thought they were the best thing to do along with brisk walking or jogging. I had no interest in doing them. So he let it be. Since then he's watched me do my videos and told me he was proud of me. When I went off to water aerobics he told me to have fun. Lately, I've asked him to show me how to do those wind sprints and I had him show me some shadow boxing moves. If he'd been bashing me over the head about this stuff, instead of supporting me, there's no way in **** I'd be letting him show me this stuff.

I have a plant hobby. My husband doesn't like plants at all. But guess what he bought me for my birthday? Two HUGE floor plants. Right now as I type this he's putting together a stand he bought for my plants. I didn't ask him to. He just knows that I enjoy my plants and he supports that.

I think if things continue the way they have with your fiance and you regarding your weight loss, it's going to cause a lot of resentment. It will also be stressful because you will want to have discussions with him that you won't be able to. He's suppposed to be the one person you can always rely on for a sounding board. You could eventually become discouraged. My point is that his attitude about your weight loss plan is harmful. Not neutral. Harmful. So tell him to get off your back! And let him know that you expect his support without sarcasm or criticism.

I'll be back a little later. Bye ladies!

needhelp27
09-14-2006, 09:24 PM
GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST GOT TURBO JAM, I'M SO FREAKIN EXCITED I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE IT, I WANNA START TONIGHT BUT I AM GONNA GET ALL MY MEASUREMENTS, WEIGHT, ETC. AND THEN START ON THE WEEKEND OR MONDAY. I AM SO EXCITED, YAY!!!!:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :cool: :spin: :cb: :cp: :dancer: :balloons: :whoo: I'M A LIL EXCITED!! HEHE! I JUST WANTED TO LET U ALL KNOW.

Our school is participating in the Terry Fox Walk tomorrow (if u dont know who Terry Fox is, :nono: then its a shame). I think it is 2 or 5 km, so that is exciting! Anyways, just wanted to let u know about turbo jam and im sorry i havent been on but u know, homework comes before anything else, other than family and working out. I will update as soon as I can with the turbo jam progress.

Lata, Heather

sapphire35
09-14-2006, 09:58 PM
Aqua: Chick what are you up to lately. You have been really low key.

Mia: You gonna turbo right to the moon if you keep that up! :carrot: Good work out!

I think minutes are alot easier to accomplish than Miles. Some people get 1100 minutes a month. For instance; aqua is averaging 60 minutes a day. Maybe we can try another challenge in minutes also.

We might ask the other ladies about that tweaking you did! lol. :D No, whatever is best for you. I'm just glad your participating.

Heather: Hi, sounds like your knee deep school. Education comes first of course. I'm so glad you got your turbo jam! :carrot: :woo: You have been waiting a long time. I think you were getting ready to scratch someones eyes out if it didn't show up soon.

Sara: Boy Amanda and Melissa gave you some really good advice. He definitely knows how you feel now. Don't back down. And don't get discouraged.

Gotta go take care of this sick little one of mine. Boy is she crankie. BBL

Amany
09-14-2006, 10:47 PM
Ok, I'm not exercising tonight. Dang it, I feel like crap and it's not going to happen. I'm starting to get some pain in my right ear. :mad: This will be a less than sparkling exercise week for me. I plan to get up early tomorrow and back on the wagon.

Bonnie - I'm glad you got your house back. Now you can do what you want. No, it doesn't make you sound bad. You're a woman enjoying her house. Nothing wrong with that. I like to exercise in a sports bra and gym shorts.

Liz - Buckwild was a hot mess. In fact that should have been her name. "Hot Mess"!. :lol: I have to admit that I enjoyed watching her. She was so darn funny. In real life, she would have gotten on my nerves though.
It's good to see you back. How was the walk?

Trish - You're in the exercise zone. You got the bug baby! :carrot: :ebike:
I hope the baby feels better soon.
I'll definitely be in St. Louie in my skinny clothes! If I'm not preggers by then. That's kinda what I'm hoping. But maybe I'll still get something tight and revealing. Just look for the pregnant broad with in the cut off halter and spandex pants! :eek: :lol3:

Heather!! :wave: - I love it when you drop by. I hope you love Turbo Jam. Make sure you report back to us after you've done it.

Aqua - Come back, come back, come back to us!!! :cry: Hope to see you soon chicky. :hug:

Danielle - I'm so glad you're feeling better. I'm still back and forth. Better one moment and feeling worse the next. Thankfully the weekend is upon us. It's getting cool here. What was the temp in your neck of the woods today?

Melissa - Just reading your posts make me tired. :dizzy: :faint: Girl how do you do all that?! You're inspiring me to get my act together though. I really need to become more organized. If you can do all that you do there's no reason for me not to do all the things I want to accomplish.

Mia - I'm glad you found a way to track your miles. You're going to do really well at this weight loss thing, chick!

Sara - Be happy!! Please just be happy. :hug:

Ladies, I ordered the book Protein Power today. I'm not planning to use that diet, but I want to gather all the useful information I can to tweak my own plan.

Did you guys hear that Pumkin from Flavor of Love is planning to marry another woman?? Hmmm..... Now that's interesting. I wonder if he singed on for this show expecting to find true love. Oh well, NY loves him. And she's back.

Well, my husband is putting me to bed now. He's fussing about me being sick and staying up too late. Have a great evening lovelies. :grouphug:

miafluker
09-14-2006, 11:29 PM
GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST GOT TURBO JAM, I'M SO FREAKIN EXCITED I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE IT, I WANNA START TONIGHT BUT I AM GONNA GET ALL MY MEASUREMENTS, WEIGHT, ETC. AND THEN START ON THE WEEKEND OR MONDAY. I AM SO EXCITED, YAY!!!!:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :cool: :spin: :cb: :cp: :dancer: :balloons: :whoo: I'M A LIL EXCITED!! HEHE! I JUST WANTED TO LET U ALL KNOW.

Our school is participating in the Terry Fox Walk tomorrow (if u dont know who Terry Fox is, :nono: then its a shame). I think it is 2 or 5 km, so that is exciting! Anyways, just wanted to let u know about turbo jam and im sorry i havent been on but u know, homework comes before anything else, other than family and working out. I will update as soon as I can with the turbo jam progress.

Lata, Heather i got mine today too! i did half of cardio party then passed out

needhelp27
09-14-2006, 11:33 PM
Amanda: I will definitly report back with wut happens

I am not gonna start till monday because it says that u should consult a physician before you start any exercise program so I hoping I can get an appointment tomorrow. I am also starting with the learn & burn so i dont pass out, haha. Anyways, I will let u know how the doctor goes, etc.

Heather

AquaChick
09-15-2006, 10:02 AM
:coffee: :sunny: :coffee2: Good Morning Ladies!!!!:coffee2: :sunny: :coffee:

Sugar-N-Spice- Sounds like you're getting back on your feet. :) That's good. I'm doing pretty well, actually I'm not gonna say I'm doing good. I'm pissed off. My weight is not where I had hoped it wold end up at this point, my measurements have hardly moved. *sigh*. Puts me in a crappy mood. I was going to type in "the pretty things are going to ****" above my new avatar but it wouldn't fit... lol... that sorta sums it up for me this past week... :lol:

miafluker- Good for you on the turbo jam. That's awesome, it feels good to get in a nice workout even though it tires you out. :)

sapphire35- I hope your baby is feeling better today. Poor baby. :(

I kinda faded off into the sunset yesterday. My mood is not so hot right now. I feel very angry and depressed over my weight loss. I changed my diet. I changed my routine. My cycle has left the building. I have done everyhting right, and I only dropped three pounds from my ZERO weight loss last week. :mad: I'm angry right now. At who? No one. At what? I don't know. I guess I'm mad at the idea that it is unfair that I have the diet that is no more exotic than a rabbit's, I work my butt off, and nothing is happening.

lovethatsara- Hi... :hug:


Hun.e.B- Hi! :hug: Good Morning...


Amany- It is hard to workout when you're sick. You don't have to, but sometimes I feel better afterwards if I do it anyway... but sometimes you need a break.

:hug: lol... I'm still here!!!! I'm just in a foul mood. I'm mad and I can't help it. I want to be thin, and I want the magic "POOF!!!!" and voila. C'est magnifique!!!! But.... uh... it ain't gonna happen, and I'm being sooooo gooooood, and I'm still feeling very deflated when I step of the scale. I just don't understand it. :cry:


needhelp27- :hug:

sapphire35
09-15-2006, 10:08 AM
:woo: GOOD MORNING! :cofdate:

Yeah Its Friday, But uh oh its weigh day.

Aqua: Now I know something is up, because your always the first one on here in the morning. I hope everything is okay.

Amanda: OMG my ears starting hurting yesterday too, my mom said I'm the one that probably passed on something to the baby. Thats for the concern ladies, Her fever did break yesterday for awhile. But I'm so tired :tired: today because she was up every hour on the hour last night.

Amanda I hope you do get :preg: its a wonderful feeling. I had to do IVF in order to get :preg: . I am so glad I did.

I'll shall be back ladies. I didn't work out yesterday either. Because of the little one.:(

Hun.e.B
09-15-2006, 10:13 AM
Good Friday morning lovelies!!! did you update your measurements today?? My good news is that I'm down 5.6 lbs!!! WOOOOOOOOHOOO!!!!! I had an outstanding day yesterday! Stuck to plan all day, got in all my water! The scale is moving in the right direction!!!

Heather...you arent excited or anything are you?! LOL!! I'm glad you finally got your turbojam! Enjoy it to its fullest! I have to admit I didnt know who Terry Fox was so I googled him. And he's canadian hence why I've not heard of him here. But what an amazing story!!

amanda....I sure hope you feel better soon! Good for dh for pampering you! YOu need and deserve it so you can get better!

mia....you are doing GREAT with that exercise!!! Keep it up!! Enjoy your new Turbojam!!

Danielle....I hope this finds you today feeling like a champ! Dont worry about what the scale says this week that cold medicine can really do terrible things with your metabolism. it makes me get really puffy too. Just back on plan and working towards your goals!!

Anyone else watch Survivor last night? I have to say that I REALLY dont like the split ethnicities. I think its just awful. When the african american team lost and one of em comments on how they let down their people...thats just not right! its not right for their people to feel like that and its not right for the tribe to feel like that. I also dont feel like I can hope for my races team because I feel like a racist in doing so. Now maybe thats my own flaw but its true. Noone sticks out to me as someone I like yet so we'll see. How funny was the one guy taking the bad wind out of the other guy LOL!! Got rid of the headache but now I've got a big red dot on my head...oye!

Okay, I'm off to shower!! Flying high today on a very successful week!! gonna make this next week another one!! I'll get my Fall challenge tree made this weekend and take a picture so everyone can see it!! have a wonderful day today!! Be good to you!

miafluker
09-15-2006, 10:14 AM
Aqua 3lbs thats amazing i know how you feel though i lost 1lb and 9inches but yet im still not satisfied

sapphire35, Amanda, ineed,Danielle and everyone else i missed we have alot of people how are you guys doing wwwwwwwake up! got something for you:dust:

sapphire35
09-15-2006, 10:14 AM
Aqua we were posting at the same time. Yeah you beat me, you are back. Girl 3 pounds is a lot. You stop fretting that is good weight loss. I only lost 2.4 pounds this week. But I'm okay with that. All your hard work is going to pay off and very soon.

Congrats on the 3 pounds!:carrot: :carrot:

Hun.e.B
09-15-2006, 10:17 AM
Trish...you and I seem to post at the same time or something, and we never end up posting to each other! LOL...so good morning!!

Aqua...I know that you know we all know how frustrating this journey can be. But you've gotta be realistic about what you are expecting of your body. 3 lbs in one week is AMAZING!!! You cant ask for better than that!! That means you cut your normal calorie burn/comsumption by over 10,000 calories for the week!!!! Girl thats damn near a weeks worth of food!!! You are kicking some serious butt!! And your clothes are falling off of you! This weight didnt come on overnight and its not gonna leave overnight! But things are changing! Last week when you didnt lose your body was just catching up, thats normal, thats how the science of it works!! I'm so proud of you and all you've accomplished! You truly are an inspiration for me! Way to go on an AMAZING week!!!

~melissa

miafluker
09-15-2006, 10:18 AM
hey everyone i was wondering if we can do a roll call i would love to get to know everyone individually so i was wondering if we can do a roll call and what everyone wants to be called

ill go first

1. miafluker aka mia





also what do you guys think of a daily challenge i get bored quick maybe we can come up with daily challenges for next week, what do you think

sapphire35
09-15-2006, 10:21 AM
Melissa I had to give shout outs to your 5.6 lbs. Unbelievable you go girl.:bravo: :cp: Good Job!

sapphire35
09-15-2006, 10:25 AM
Mia I am up for daily challenge. Your not going to believe this but the hardest one for me is 100 ounces of water a day. I managed to achieve that one day this week only.

Roll Call

1. Sapphire35 - Love to be called Trish.
2. 37 years old
3. Married
4 1 child - 13 months old

needhelp27
09-15-2006, 10:39 AM
needhelp 27 aka heather
Single
Grade 12 student
Canadian!! YAY:carrot: haha
No kids
age: 17

Altari
09-15-2006, 10:43 AM
1. Altari AKA Becky
2. 21 years old
3. Married
4. 3 girls - 4 years, 2 years, 9 months
5. Work full time, feel like there's no time for exercise. My posts are generally 5 lines written over the course of 30 minutes.

miafluker
09-15-2006, 10:43 AM
good morning heather
trish im the same way with water its hard to get 64oz in

miafluker
09-15-2006, 10:45 AM
1. Altari AKA Becky
2. 21 years old
3. Married
4. 3 girls - 4 years, 2 years, 9 months
5. Work full time, feel like there's no time for exercise. My posts are generally 5 lines written over the course of 30 minutes.

wow becky thats great you has a great week:carrot:

Hun.e.B
09-15-2006, 10:47 AM
So lets hit the water hard next week!!! Is there some sort of water blinkie? A waterdrop or something, we can see who can rack up the most water blinkies by meeting their water goal each day next week!!

1. hun.e.b aka Melissa
2. 20 14 years old
3. married
4. 2 girls ages 11 and 7
5. fulltime student at the University of Montana...go griz!

Hun.e.B
09-15-2006, 10:50 AM
:dance:
:rain:

Amany
09-15-2006, 10:56 AM
Ok. I'm sick. I'll be glad when 5 rolls around so I can go home. I have that icky sinus drainage that makes you feel :barf: Sorry if that grossed you out...:o

Ever put up with something for so long that it just starts to get to you?
I have an eleven year old step daughter. She came into the picture a little over a year ago. Up until then, my husband had no idea where she was for five years. Up until maybe three years ago, my husband had spent a lot of time and a lot of money trying to have his visitation rights enforced.

So anyway his daughter and her mom resurfaced a year ago. The ex said that she'd found out that she was bi-polar and that is what caused her to do all the things she used to. Years ago, she had dragged my husbands daughter to a police station and made a lot of allegations. I won't get into the details, but my husband had to hire an attorney to advise and spent six hours strapped to a polygraph machine. The police never believed the allegations so they resorted to that. The dates didn't add up and they felt that my husbands daughter had been forced to say certain things.

Starting last year, even though this woman has had another child and hadn't even laid eyes on my husband in five years, she tried to get him back. She went to every family member she could trying to get as much information as possible. For a time my husband and his daughter were getting reaquainted. The ex would drop her off and his mom's house and he'd pick her up. And they'd talk on the phone for hours. That went on from Sept last year until January of this year.

I spent last Christmas with my husband, his mom, her boyfriend and my step-daughter. It was nice, but I saw some behavior that I thought was a little strange. I didn't say anything, but I just sort of tucked it away for later. Like I noticed that she would at times purposely ignore adults when they spoke to her, she made some comments about a girl she didn't get along with that made me think she had some violent tendencies, and I felt like she would put on an act for my husband's mother at times. On top of that I noticed that when she'd talk to my husband on the phone, they would some how become disconnected when he'd be talking to her about the importance of school or advising her that it wasn't good to be so materialistic about gym shoe brands or jeans.

On January second she came to live with us. Her mom had checked herself into the mental ward of a hospital. She said that she'd been hearing voices telling her to kill her children. My husband and I had been told by his ex's mother that the state said that his daughter had to live with him or she'd end up in foster care. He didn't believe it and neither did I. He hadn't so much as received a phone call from a social worker. So how could any of that be true? But we figured at least she'd be safe with us. The experience was a complete nightmare.

To make a long story short my step daughter would like us one moment and be yelling at us an hour later. Literally. One day she was blocking me from going from the television area to the dining room. She told me to just go around. Another time she was "playing" and trying to get some money out of my hand while digging her fingernails into my fingers. We tried to take her shopping for school clothes and she yelled at us in the stores. She expected us to purchase her all designer clothes. Never mind the the fact that she had next to nothing when she came. Most of her clothes had been destroyed by her mom.

One night she didn't want to go to bed. So she refused to leave our bedroom and started kicking the side of the bed. Another night she gotten mad at us on the way back from Pizza Hut, so she wouldn't come out of the car. By this time, my husband and I were both tired of the whole thing. So we just left her there. We told her to come up when she was ready. Five minutes later she comes upstairs and leaves the door wide open. I had to tell her three times to close it. When she ate the pizza she just threw the toppings she didn't want on the floor or on the bottom of the refrigerator.

By that time my husband had already decided it was best to have her go back to her grandmother. They really didn't even know one another. By this time she was ten and they had not lived together since she was five. Plus they had only been betting reaquainted for about three and a half months. I wanted to give a little time though. I sat her down and told her that she was going to have to stop acting like that. I told her that we didn't have any drama in our home and that we weren't going to be held hostage by a ten year with bad behavior. Oh and I forgot to mention that she'd been told about the miscarriage we had last year, and made some statements about how she was going to be the only child he had.

What finally ended it all was a Sunday that we'd taken her to see her mom in the hospital. My husband and I were going to be in the visitor's lobby and she would visit with her mom in one of the private rooms. The people at the hospital didn't want my step daughter to be in the visitor's lobby with the other mental patients. So instead of visiting with her daughter for the only two hours she was allowed per week, the ex kept coming into the lobby to sit practically under our noses and look at us. The nurse came and had her go back to the room twice, but she insisted on coming back. Then on the way home it all came to a head. My husband had taken all he could her screaming at him to shut up. We took her back to her grandmother.

It had turned out the grandmother told us that the state would only let us keep the daughter because she didn't want to put up with her bad behavior. See, the grandmother had legal custody of my step daughter. We didn't know that at first. The ex claimed she had no idea how to get in touch with my husband and placed an ad in the paper. Since he didn't respond, of course, the grandmother got legal custody.

After that day, we've gotten plenty of crank calls from the daughter. I've been called a d*ke, slut, wh*re and a b*tch so many times by this kid that I'm barely even phased by it anymore. On top of that, she's told people that I hit her. My husband had already decided that she couldn't live with us, but I told him after the whole ordeal to really make sure it was what he wanted. Because at that point, I was never willing to live with her again. She and I will never live under the same roof again because I refuse to live that away.

Since then, the daughter has called my MIL saying that her mother keeps trying to kill herself. One time she said that her mother was out in the backyard threatening to stick her face in a puddle of water so she could drown. :rolleyes: That's a typical conversation. But meanwhile, my MIL can always hear the daughter being coached by her mother on what to say. Just last night she called and said that her mom was in the hospital again because she was trying to get her and her little brother in the car so she could kill them. She was calling from home and her mom was sitting next to her telling her what to say.

She's seen too much and been around too much. She's been manipulated too much. My husband said that the kid that used to live with him is gone. She's completely different. The sad thing is that it's not her fault. But the end result is the same. It's still impossible to live with.

We tried counseling for a while. Just her. Just my husband and her. And the three of us. After a couple of months of going once or twice a week, the therapist told us to stop wasting our money. She said that the mother was working against it all too much.

By the way, her mom is not really bi polar. She's pretending to be. About 4 or 5 doctors in a row have all determined that she was pretending. She keeps applying for gov't aid saying that she has a mental disability. True, something is definitely wrong with her, but it's not what she's trying to pretend she has. Having the daughter do all this stuff is her attempt to get a reaction out of my husband. But he's known her a long time and knows better than to fall for it. One time while he was talking to his daughter the ex just started hitting her for no reason and telling her she didn't love her. The daughter was in shock because her mom had never done that before. She'd only started doing it because she realized that the daughter was talking to my husband. It was to get his attention. We ended up just calling the police.

So I guess all this is really starting to weigh on me. I don't feel threatened by it. There's no stress on our marriage. It's just that it's all so weird and outside of the realm of anything normal. Who lives like this? Does this stuff really happen in real life? I guess so...

Anway, I guess I just had to get that off my chest. I can't really go into all this with any of my friends, cause it's just too weird. My family just likes to gossip so I wouldn't dare bring it up to all of them.

Ok. Sorry for bringing everyone down. I'll be back later in a better mood.

Hun.e.B
09-15-2006, 11:12 AM
Gosh Amanda, yes that would tend to wear a person down in a major way! I've got an 11 year old but shes a well adjusted, well behaved nice girl, who lives with both her birth parents in a loving, caring, nurturing home. That being said her and I still butt heads!! and there are times I'd like to drown her in a puddle too! LOL...jk not really! But in the normal, preteen hormone changing ways. I feel so lucky now after hearing what you have to deal with.

My first thoughts are that she needs counselling. And I feel its horrible for that doctor you were seeing to tell you to stop wasting your money, all he was saying was he couldnt deal with the problem. He didnt know what to do. I guarantee Dr. Phil would never tell you to give up.

I wish I had some words of advice, but I do know this. The situation needs to be taken care of before you get pregnant and bring home a baby. that kind of stresses can do too much damage to your prenancy. And having a baby in the house with such a unpredictable child, who has already shown signs of jealousy.

Its going to be a battle, but I'm sure the mother can be taken out of the picture. Or given only supervised visits if indeed she is as nuts as she sounds and poisoning the girl so badly.

I wish I had some advice. Just know when you need and want to vent I'll always be here for you! {{{HUG}}}}

~melissa

AquaChick
09-15-2006, 11:13 AM
:( Well Dang. :(

:hug:

Honey, I'm sorry you have had all this drama dropped on you like a bomb you never deserved, weren't expecting, and it should never have happened that way.

To be honest with you, I feel really, really bad for the child. She is taking all of her anger out on the easiest target. :( I'm sorry you are being put through that.

I wish I knew what to say you could do, but this is hard, and it is complex, and you can only deal with it in the way you best see fit as it comes. I'll pray for you.

Please, if you need to release your feelings, post it. You need to let all this out. :hug:

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 11:15 AM
Good Morning Gang!

I swear, if its not one thing its another around here. I got a sick dd now. She was home with me yesterday and I thought for sure she'd be better today. Or that was the high hopes here, she was supposed to participate with band tonight at the high school football game. Poor kid's gonna miss it, I feel so bad for her. But what can ya do, she's sick!

I skipped the scale this morning. I'm just gonna work hard this week and hope I lose some by next Friday.

Melissa, wowzers chick!!! What absolutely freakin fantastic news this morning! I'm giving you the cloud :cloud9: today!!!! Keep it up lady, great things are headed your way. You are doing it!!!!!! :dance:

Aqua, I'm sorry you're not happy today. Seriously, as hard as it is to take, Melissa gave you some really great advice. She was gonna major in nutrition so she knows her stuff! I think you are doing great, 3lbs is awesome. I know you want it all off quick, but how healthy would that be? You're doing it just right. Be nice to yourself and really try to think of all the great things you've done for yourself. You are making lifestyle changes to ensure that you keep it off forever, the weightloss is just a really great perk. :) Chin up lady, you're super! :hug:

Trish, how's your munchkin today? Poor thing! Congrats to you on your loss this week! Awesome job!

Mia, :wave:

Heather, I hope you enjoy your turbo jam. I've wanted that for a while now. Of course at the rate I'm going, by the time I get arond to getting it, they'll come out with a whole new one! :lol: definitely keep your focus on school, you will never get that time back. Enjoy every second!

Amanda, sending you get well vibes!!!!! I hope you're feeling better today! :hug:

Alright, well I'm off to tend to the sick for now. Be good ladies!

needhelp27
09-15-2006, 11:23 AM
Wow, is pretty much all i can say at this point. I'm so sorry about everything ur step-daughter did to you, its not your fault, she is torn and she doesn't know what is real anymore and she feels abandoned and doesnt want to trust anybody even though they say they love her or whatever. I know a few ppl like that. She needs a sense of belonging and by her mother leaving and going to the mental institution, it just makes things even worse. Plus her dad wasn't there when she needed him most but it wasnt her fault it was her moms fault. She is acting all rebelious and wanting designer things, etc. because she is trying to fill a void with useless thing and what she needs is love but she doesnt want to or denies it because she thinks she will be abandoned again.

Thats my two cents but hopefully everything goes back to normal and maybe later on in her life she will realize what happend and apoligize, etc. I have to get ready for school, I will tell about the Terry Fox walk when I get home.

sapphire35
09-15-2006, 11:34 AM
Girl,:hug: :hug: :hug: You aren't bothering us at all. Thats why we're all here for support.
People go through this everyday, especially the families that adopt. Its hard to take in chidren that you didn't personally raise from baby on up. One of the biggest reason is because you don't know there personalities or behaviors.
You and your husband did everything you could ( counseling, etc) and it just didn't work out. I know your husband probably wishes he could do more to help His child. Its not his fault nor yours that your stepdaughter acts this way. Its definitely the mothers.
In behalf of the child, she definitely needs to be removed from her current situation. She is in a dangerous and abusive environment. Which is causes her to re-act the way she does. The grandmother may not be able to handle this little girl, she is older and it is asking alot. With that being said sometimes the best thing for everyone is to that the child gets help, and it mean she has to be placed somewhere where that can happen. You Know what I mean. The state has alot of great programs. I have taken several tours of different facilities because of United Way, they have great doctors and counselors. I no its sad :( and that may not be what everyone whats. But she is a child and she needs the proper attention that she is not getting right now. If she doesn't get the positive attention and love she is going to whined up being a Statistic, or pregnant and doing the same thing to her child because thats all she know. You don't want to see her whined up on the streets.
It is not to late she can still be helped and turned around. You guys may not be able to take her in. And trust me I do understand. I have several situations going on in my family right now, included my husband child (my Stepdaughter). But Your husband and you maybe able to help get the ball rolling to see that she gets proper help in a good facility.
She Needs love and she lots of it right now. She is only acting out because she is doing what she has be taught and have not been given affectionate wise.

Thats just my opinion. Amanda Dump on us anytime you want to.

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 11:44 AM
Amanda, hon I am so sorry you've got such an ordeal. :hug: :hug: What a real mess that all is and I don't have any good advice. Nothing that you don't already know anyways. Gosh, sounds like my inlaws aren't the only nutso's on the loose! My shrink classifies my MIL as a psychopath with no hope for rehabilitation, just by the things I told him she did. He was amazed that I seemed grounded at the time after what her & my SIL put me thru. So I can truly truly empathize with you. I just urge you to really keep those lines of communication open with your dh at all times. This has got to be really hard on him too so you both really need eachother to be open & honest. You know I wish you nothing but the best sweetie! Somehow, some way, things will get worked out, I just know it. I totally believe in karma & destiny and you deserve nothing but the best! Stay strong, we are all here for you. ♥♥

miafluker
09-15-2006, 11:46 AM
wow Amanda im not sure what to say i know its easier said then done but i had children before i married even though my hubby is a great stepfather i try to make sure i dont take his authority from him all i can say is that children especially troubled ones will try to push you to your limit, you have to show who has the upperhand and to not deal with your stepdaughter will be making her think she won and is untouchable. first you need to know where you stand as far as disapline im not talking beating or spanking im talking about talking and correction her, i know my hubby felt at first that he shouldnt disapline our kids because they werent biologically his but we came to the understanding that he was the father in thier lives and he had just as much right. so you and your hubby have to build a strong foundation and communication so she cannot try to play you against each other... if he says he isnt comfortable with you telling her whats what then im not sure what to do but if he wants you to take the authority role then you have to stand strong regardless of what she calls you let her see that none of that fazes you even if it does do not let her see it show her that even though she is acting like an azz you still care and she isnt hurting noone but herself and if she gets physical let her know that you have to defend yourself if that means keeping her off you or threatening to take out assult charges
it may seem harsh but if you let her get away with it or just not deal with the problem then it will escalate and become worse
and do not try to be a friend you have to be the parent
i can speak on this because i work at a group home for youths that range form thieves, suicidal teens, abused, and where some may be sexual offenders, i have seen alot these kids are druged up constantly these kids would try to turn the employees against each other because some employees would try to be their friends to make their job easier but as far as me i set the rules in the beginning and stuck by them, as a matter of fact im about to go back to work in a few weeks im still enjoying maternity leave
but the kids respected me and i showed them respect as well

i hope this helped some i do admire your strengh im not violent but im use to well behaved kids and i would have really put her in her place and let her know that i wasnt against her i was for her

miafluker
09-15-2006, 11:49 AM
and i thought my husbands adhd was a problem :hug: we are here for you

your hubby might need to consider a group home i saw so many kids change and go back to their families different


mel you can click on my water ticker and get to the page thats really the only thing i can find

sapphire35
09-15-2006, 11:50 AM
Mia OMG where did you find that water meter. Thats is so cute, I have to have it.

miafluker
09-15-2006, 11:51 AM
Mia OMG where did you find that water meter. Thats is so cute, I have to have it.

go ahead i like it too they only have one design but you can choose cups or ounces

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 12:59 PM
1. Danielle or Dani

2. 37 y/o

3. Married

4. 3kids- 13,12,10

5. Live in Phoenix, AZ

Amany
09-15-2006, 01:06 PM
Thanks. It's ok. I know no one can really give me a solution. I just needed to vent. Normally it doesn't bother me this much. Not since she went back to her grandmother's and I didn't have to deal with it at home. To stop the phone calls we forward them. There are about 5 different phone numbers she calls from. Some cell numbers. Others home numbers. We have Lingo VOIP and there was no way to block them, so the customer service person suggested that we forward the calls. So that's what we've been doing.
The only phone number that we don't do that with is the grandmother's. My husband has her to call him if she needs anything extra other than the child support. Also, his daughter is not allowed to use her grandmother's phone. She can use it when and if she's ready to apologize to me and act like she's got a little sense. My husband would be willing to see her on a normal schedule then. Spend the day with her. That sort of thing. But not in our home.
Either way, she can never live with us again. I don't want her to and neither does my husband. He just doesn't trust her because of what she's been taught. She's a very smart, manipulative girl. It's very easy to forget that she's only 11. You'd swear that she's 16. She even looks like she's about 15 or 16. She's very developed and very tall. Already 5' 8". I would definitely never allow her around my children. He doesn't want to either.
If he wants to have her placed in a facility, he'd be within his right to gain custody from the grandmother. Especially since his ex lied and claimed that she had no way of getting any type of correspondence to him. Even though she's not allowed to know where we live, she knows where all his family lives. He's actually considered that. The problem is that she'd end up in the same situation all over again. She can't come and live with us afterwards, so the state would allow her to be placed with the grandmother again. My husband loves her, but he no longer feels any real connection to her. He doesn't even know her. Plus there is somewhat of a danger factor. The daughter and the ex try to do things that could affect your freedom. At the very least it could cause of a lot of missed time from work and a lot of money. Quite frankly, we're just not going to go through that.
She'd already just been saying that I'd hit her. Plus that whole ordeal my husband had to go through is still very fresh in his mind. He always wonders how things would have played out if he'd had a different type of demeanor. Or wasn't as clean cut as he is. In a nutshell, we've given up. We're willing to meet her financial needs and pay for counseling, but we're not going beyond that.
Her mom is allowed visitation and the grandmother will never do anything to stop that. Even though she agrees that the mother is harmful, she doesn't want to be bothered with her granddaughter very often. So she gives her to her mom. My husband and I were told that, even if he filed for custody, the mother would still have the right to see her. Supervised visitation would only be an option if she did, in fact, try to kill the daughter. Just saying she heard voices that told her to do it isn't enough. Especially since doctors are on record as saying that the mom was lying. So as far as the state is concerned, she's just one of the many people who have tried to pretend to to be disabled to get a check. It's not uncommon.
In a sense, I'm sure she does feel that she's won. I'm sure she feels that she's asserted her dominance because I won't tussle with her. I'm sure she feels that I've wimped out. I'm fine with that. It's just not something I'm willing to fight. At the end of the day, she's just not my kid. I'm no longer willing to be involved. I'm not mourning the lose of anything. My husband is, but it's the loss of what she used to be. Not what she is now.
He and I talk about this stuff daily. Many times a day. Thankfully we've always been on the same page. If we weren't, I'm sure it would put our marriage in jeopardy.
I'm sorry if I brought anyone down. It's just that I think about all this stuff sometimes and it's just all too strange. Too nuts. My husband regrets not thinking all this through a lot more when he was in his early twenties. They got married two years after his daughter was born. She wasn't planned. He thought that if they were married, he'd be in a better position to protect her. You should hear him now cautioning friends and family members about having children with people you don't know well enough. I have a 20 year old nephew who confided something in him. He won't tell me what my nephew said, but he gave him a long lecture about condoms and kids.

Ok, someone asked for shouts-out....

Amany aka Amanda
33 years old
I live in Redford, MI
No children
Mood - Improving...

iwantnewpants
09-15-2006, 01:09 PM
Amanda:[B] That is just so awful. :hug: I am so glad that none of this has come between you and your husband. That's really a testament to how strong your marriage is. The only thing I can say is read the book [I]Toxic Parents[I]. Let's just say there is a little of craziness in my family. :D It in no way, shape, or form excuses your SD's behavior, but it might give you some insight as to why she acts the way she does. That is just so horrible and vent vent vent away. We are all here for you. :hug: :hug: :hug:

[B]Sara: Your fiancee is a bonehead and clearly knows NADA about fitness or nutrition. :cool: And you should tell him that. #1: Losing pounds is 100% about expending more calories than you take in. So, whether you're running, walking, crawling, or in a potato sack playing "find the potato", it doesn't matter as long as you are burning more than you are taking in. #2: The best/fastest way to lose fat, is to exercise only to the point that your heart rate is in the "fat burning" zone which is less than the "cardio" zone. Running puts you in the cardio zone. Walking (or something of lower impact, like your videos!) puts you in the fat burning zone. #3: If rewarding yourself is how you function best, then that's what you should do! And, you DESERVE a reward.....you've taken charge of your life, your body, your spirit (which is why you WON'T let his negativity get you down), and your health. We are all here for you! :hug: And WE SUPPORT YOU 137.6%!!!!

Aqua: Dude, 3 pounds is AWESOME! But, I have to admit, I know how you feel. I only lost two pounds this week and was really disappointed until I read everybody's posts to you. They are right! This is about making better choices and changing our lives. I'm standing up, fisting my hands, and doing a CARROT DANCE! :carrot:

Altari: Carrot dance for you too! Way to go on those lost inches! :carrot:

Melissa: Way to go on such a great week! Guess what.......:carrot: .....YEAH! Oh dear, my boss is starting to wonder why I've transformed into a carrot and why I'm dancing around the office.

Danielle: I am so glad that you are feeling better! I hate being sick. I always find myself craving copious amounts of creamy soups. So weird.

Trish: I hope your little peanut is feeling better! I'll be thinking about you guys today.

Mia: Good call on the minutes versus miles. This way, I can make it somewhere other than Cleveland. Not that Cleveland isn't cool....it's just that I'd rather go to Tokyo or something. And I'm all for a water challenge next week!

Bonnie: You have your house back! No SS....no plumbers.....just you, your shorts, and your sports bra! Hooray!

Heather: Congrats on finally getting Turbo Jam!

Alright Lady Pies, I need to get back to work! But everyone have a happy Friday! I'll BBL.

Liz

iwantnewpants
09-15-2006, 01:15 PM
Right right...

iwantnewpants, aka Liz
I live in Chicago, Illinois
I'm 28
Single, with great BF, no baby people (but my sister just had twins!)
Mood.....extremely hostile. Ha!

miafluker
09-15-2006, 01:21 PM
Thanks. It's ok. I know no one can really give me a solution. I just needed to vent. Normally it doesn't bother me this much. Not since she went back to her grandmother's and I didn't have to deal with it at home. To stop the phone calls we forward them. There are about 5 different phone numbers she calls from. Some cell numbers. Others home numbers. We have Lingo VOIP and there was no way to block them, so the customer service person suggested that we forward the calls. So that's what we've been doing.
The only phone number that we don't do that with is the grandmother's. My husband has her to call him if she needs anything extra other than the child support. Also, his daughter is not allowed to use her grandmother's phone. She can use it when and if she's ready to apologize to me and act like she's got a little sense. My husband would be willing to see her on a normal schedule then. Spend the day with her. That sort of thing. But not in our home.
Either way, she can never live with us again. I don't want her to and neither does my husband. He just doesn't trust her because of what she's been taught. She's a very smart, manipulative girl. It's very easy to forget that she's only 11. You'd swear that she's 16. She even looks like she's about 15 or 16. She's very developed and very tall. Already 5' 8". I would definitely never allow her around my children. He doesn't want to either.
If he wants to have her placed in a facility, he'd be within his right to gain custody from the grandmother. Especially since his ex lied and claimed that she had no way of getting any type of correspondence to him. Even though she's not allowed to know where we live, she knows where all his family lives. He's actually considered that. The problem is that she'd end up in the same situation all over again. She can't come and live with us afterwards, so the state would allow her to be placed with the grandmother again. My husband loves her, but he no longer feels any real connection to her. He doesn't even know her. Plus there is somewhat of a danger factor. The daughter and the ex try to do things that could affect your freedom. At the very least it could cause of a lot of missed time from work and a lot of money. Quite frankly, we're just not going to go through that.
She'd already just been saying that I'd hit her. Plus that whole ordeal my husband had to go through is still very fresh in his mind. He always wonders how things would have played out if he'd had a different type of demeanor. Or wasn't as clean cut as he is. In a nutshell, we've given up. We're willing to meet her financial needs and pay for counseling, but we're not going beyond that.
Her mom is allowed visitation and the grandmother will never do anything to stop that. Even though she agrees that the mother is harmful, she doesn't want to be bothered with her granddaughter very often. So she gives her to her mom. My husband and I were told that, even if he filed for custody, the mother would still have the right to see her. Supervised visitation would only be an option if she did, in fact, try to kill the daughter. Just saying she heard voices that told her to do it isn't enough. Especially since doctors are on record as saying that the mom was lying. So as far as the state is concerned, she's just one of the many people who have tried to pretend to to be disabled to get a check. It's not uncommon.
In a sense, I'm sure she does feel that she's won. I'm sure she feels that she's asserted her dominance because I won't tussle with her. I'm sure she feels that I've wimped out. I'm fine with that. It's just not something I'm willing to fight. At the end of the day, she's just not my kid. I'm no longer willing to be involved. I'm not mourning the lose of anything. My husband is, but it's the loss of what she used to be. Not what she is now.
He and I talk about this stuff daily. Many times a day. Thankfully we've always been on the same page. If we weren't, I'm sure it would put our marriage in jeopardy.
I'm sorry if I brought anyone down. It's just that I think about all this stuff sometimes and it's just all too strange. Too nuts. My husband regrets not thinking all this through a lot more when he was in his early twenties. They got married two years after his daughter was born. She wasn't planned. He thought that if they were married, he'd be in a better position to protect her. You should hear him now cautioning friends and family members about having children with people you don't know well enough. I have a 20 year old nephew who confided something in him. He won't tell me what my nephew said, but he gave him a long lecture about condoms and kids.

Ok, someone asked for shouts-out....

Amany aka Amanda
33 years old
I live in Redford, MI
No children
Mood - Improving...

girl you havent brung anyone down we all have issues i know mine contributed to my weight
i hope your stepdaughter sees oneday that you are a great role model your strengh inspires me

anyway on a happier note is everyone getting their water

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 01:45 PM
So Liz, how was that nekid train ride last week??? Ya never told us! :D. Congrats on those 2 pounds, fabulous!!!!

Amanda, sometimes no matter how much you want things to work out, everyone's just better off being apart. I have not had a relationship with my SIL for almost 6 years ever since she tried to hurt my Dh physically right in front of my children. Unfortunately the sacrafice was ending my relationship with my neice Kayla who I had practically raised since birth. I was so crushed when I finally admitted that was how things had to be, even tho I strongly feel that my family was the best thing for that child. My family had to come first, my kids, my husband. The situation with MIL came a year later and I chose too cut off contact with her personally, but she is so small minded and pathetic she hasn't seen my kids in just as long a time! All for the better IMO, nobody deserves poison in their lives regardless of where it comes from. You're a strong lady, I know you and your hubby will get past this and build a really nice life for your kids. Sometimes, in the face of situations like these you really do find out just how strong you are, I know I sure did.

Mia, your little water ticker is adorable. Is that on 3FC? Yes, I am right on track with water today so far!

iwantnewpants
09-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Danielle, the train ride was amazing. The strangest thing happened to me though.....:D

Nekid Train Ride, by Liz
Nekid Train Rider: played by Liz
Passengers 1-5: played by Latino boy band/singing sensation Menudo
Passenger 6: played by former child star Danny Pintauro
Passenger 7: played by Chicago's own Brian Urlacher


(Scene opens as Nekid train rider is reading "Harry Potter: The Order of the Phoenix". Nekid train rider drops her bookmark.)

Passenger 6: Hey, let me get that for you.
Nekid Train Rider: Gee thanks!
Passenger 6: Oh, it's no problem at all!
Passengers 1-5: Pero gracias!!! Quieres Orchata?
Passenger 7: I love Orchata!
Nekid Train Rider: I love Menudo!
All: Laugh in unison for 3.6 seconds and then break into a rendition of "Walk Like an Egyptian"

Scene.

I tell you. Chicago is the strangest place. :D

Amany
09-15-2006, 03:54 PM
Ok...

So far I've had about 80oz of water. No weight lost since last week. And I don't care. :D Seriously. Because I'm smaller. Plus, I really hate to admit this, but I have a favorite pair of pants that I wear once a week. They're just so dang comfy. Anyway, it's a pair of pants that I couldn't even pull over my rump just two months ago. And they're looser than last week!! Heck, they're almost baggy. :carrot: So, the scale didn't move. Big whoop. It will move soon enough.

Aqua - Chin up my friend. Easier said than done I know. But you're doing a fantastic job. Remember that our bodies always want to stabilize themselves. Especially after the initial big weight is lost. And you've already lost some major weight. Three pounds in a week is quite a bit. Especially considering your current weight and the stage of the game you're in. I know you changed your plan to spark a major, major loss. But you still lost! On top of that you found a new way of eating that you really enjoy. That's a lot of be proud of. Those are all huge accomplishments for just one week.

Danielle - I'm sorry to hear about your niece. It's the worst when an innocent suffers. Oh and the "outlaws". :rolleyes: :hug: Having inlaws is so strange. These are people you didn't grow up around, have values that are not like yours and all of a sudden you're now related and start spending holidays together. :dizzy: That's a lot to ask. Thankfully I love my MIL. She's gotten on my nerves on occasion, but nothing major. My husband also has an uncle, two cousins and an aunt that I like very much. The rest of them can take a flying leap! :lol:
I'm glad you're feeling better but I sure feel bad for dd. Poor thing. Give her some extra love from us. :hug: Hey, and just skip the scale if you feel like it. You have the special sick pass this week.:)

Mia - You are quite a woman! It takes a special person to do the job you do. And blended families can be a real challenge, but it sounds like you're really on top of it. Are you looking forward to returning to work?

Liz - I will have to take a look at that book. I find that when I can make an honest attempt at understanding my stepdaughter, I can honestly pray for her. There was a time when it was a real challenge because I was so personally involved. I had to pray for the strength to let go of my hostility enough so I could pray for her! We're not supposed to admit things like that, are we? Oh well. I find it better to be truthful.
Congrats on the weight loss lady. You are doing such a great job. Here's and extra :carrot: for you. Plus a :cb: :) Your weight will come off. The scale has to give up the pounds sooner or later. Preferably sooner. :lol:

Trish - I hope you feel better soon. I hate ear aches. They're agonizing. Thankfuly mine isn't achinig today. Last night was awful.
I want to lose at least another 50 pounds before I attempt to get pregnant. I want to avoid as many complications as possible. Sometimes I look at my husband or he'll do something to make me laugh and I'll think, "I hope our son / daughter looks like him. Or has his sense of humor.". He or she can inherit my brains though. j/k :lol: He's actually a very smart man. So, I think our kids will be covered. :D

Melissa - Congrats on the 5.6!!! That's amazing. You really deserve it. I'm glad you've had that victory. It will just get better and better too. Can you just imagine how we'll all be next year? Slimmer. Healthier. We'll feel more attractive. Have nicer clothes. :lol:
Oh Survivor...
I'm still not sure what to make of it. It bothers me too for anyone to feel like they have to represent "their people". I hate when people ask me to explain things to them about black people or black women. How could I do that. Every member of the same race doesn't think the same way or have the same experiences. Or even agree.
I remember being at a used book store one day and I asked the clerk about a book by a controversial author. He told me that I didn't look like someone who'd read a book by that guy. I wasn't offended but I have to admit that it took me off guard. I really didn't feel he was being malicious and I'm not ultra sensitive about those things. I had a really snappy come back though. I told him that he, more than anyone, should understand that you can't judge a book by its cover. :lol: But I know that the point he was making was that by liking that author it wasn't "representative" of a black person. It's too much of a burden to represent an entire group. Heck, I can't even represent the feelings and thoughts of my immediate family.

Well, I'd better go. It's funny. I feel like I've had somewhat of an awakening" about how I want to make healthier food choices for my life. I was just thinking that it's not enough for me that something is low carb, but I want it to be healthy too. Then, wouldn't you know it, there's a tasty looking birthday cake here today. :mad: *sigh*

Amany
09-15-2006, 04:06 PM
Liz, :lol: :lol:

iwantnewpants
09-15-2006, 04:24 PM
Amanda....I'm glad you liked the play. And thannks for the support regarding my 2 pounds. :D I'm glad your pants are falling off! Ha! I think I'll have to write a play about that! By next Friday, they should be down to your knees!

As for your step-daughter.....you are perfectly justified in having to pray for the patience to deal with her and in having to pray to let go of the hostility. That doesn't make you a bad person....it makes you a wonderful person. Most people would 1) not let of the hostility or make any attempt to and 2) would let it interfere in their marriages. You're patience and tolerance and understanding and ability to accept this situation for what it is is an absolute inspiration to me. As I mentioned, I have some terrible issues in my own family (hence the Toxic Parents reading) and I really am having a hard time being independent and not letting the negativity weigh me down. So you are a rock star to me. Kudos.

Now, let's go boxing and kick some arse.

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 05:44 PM
Okay, so I'm not the only weirdo who knows Menudo. :lol: Boy bands have always been a guilty pleasure of mine. lol Remember New Kids On The Block? LOLOLOL *step by step....* and don't even get me started about N'Sync or Backstreet Boys. :dizzy: Personally, when you mentioned Nekid Train Rider bending over in a trainful of people....:o scared me for a sec. Talk about a flash from the past..Danny Pintauro! LOL

Amanda, yeah I sure do miss my neice. I also have a 3 y/o nephew that I've never laid eyes on but have seen pictures of. My MIL is absolutely psychotic too, I've got stories that could curl your toes.My heart is still sad at the missed years with Kayla. She loved being with us, thrived in our family. Sad to think of what will become of her. SIL is such a mess, MIL is halfway raising the grandkids..makes me shudder to think they are/may turn out like their mother! And I wondered why I needed therapy! LOL You are so right about how you get thrown into someone else's family with their beliefs and morals. My dh and I grew up completely opposite, I had the 2 parents, extremely strict childhood & he had just his mom, left with nanny's for weeks on end while she traveled for business and pleasure. They were given every whim, guilt ridden mother and all that. While both dh and I have an awesome combination to parenting, Coming into their family was extremely stressful, altho not at the beginning. Took me many years to realize that not only was my SIL jealous of my relationship w/ my husband, but so was my MIL. They are both extremely jealous of my immediate family as well, if you can believe that!!! Realizing all the subtle things she tried to do to cause strife within our marriage...makes me so sick! I was told by my MIL in '97 (thru a nasty hate-filled letter) that I was not loved by her unconditionally (ask me when I EVER asked her to love me???), that I had to earn it, and that she COMMANDED respect because she was my husband's mother. She proceeded to lay into me because I did not have "enough" pictures up of his side of the family. ???? My family just happened to send me pictures frequently (we are all so big on the picture thing it's disgusting really! lol), so I'd put up stuff whenever I got it. I also, mind you, had pictures up of MIL, SIL & my neice that *I* had taken but it wasn't good enough. Apparently I was supposed to have dh's grandparents and his father (who he hasn't seen since he was 8?) and a myriad of other people who I don't even know. It is unreal the way this woman's mind works! All this in a letter she wrote after we'd been together for 5 years!! Anywho, after she literally drove us out of our home (long long story) I cut off all ties to her or of ever wanting a relationship with her. I was very vocal about that I would not stand in the way of dh choosing relations with his family if he so chose, but to not include me & my children could visit with their grandmother under his supervision as long as SIL was not on the premisis. She also tried to attack me too the same night as dh, accused me of "stealing" her brother away and called me a gold digger. Nice. All in front of my kids. The book Liz referred you too is a great tool I've read that, and toxic inlaws. Take a look in the self help/psychology section of your bookstore, there are tons of useful reads out there to help you understand what you are feeling and to help you cope.

News Flash:::: All 3, I repeat, ALL 3 of my kids are home sick. Guess I will be spending my weekend with the disinfectant and the washing machine. This is so not good!

miafluker
09-15-2006, 05:46 PM
Menudo? you have got to be kidding i use to love them my aunt had a poster in her room and i use to practice kissing it;)

iwantnewpants
09-15-2006, 06:13 PM
Danielle, are you saying I'm weird...:D

That is some rough stuff you just described. Family strife has to be my number 1 least favorite thing in the world. I've really been struggling with that lately.

Mia....props to making out with your Menudo poster. :o

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 06:14 PM
Mia... :rofl: :rofl: So, what you're saying is that now you're a professional kisser???????? Which one was it? The only one that stands out to me vividly was Ricky Martin. LOL

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 06:15 PM
Not saying you're weird at all Liz! If anything, I was quite worried about your *ahem*.... back end. :dizzy:

AquaChick
09-15-2006, 06:32 PM
Hey ladies! :wave:

Okay, I'm re-adjusting myself for another week. I blasted some Bowie and cleaned my house like a maniac, so I think I burned off most of that anger. Sorry if my typing is bad, my baby is sitting on my lap and he is seriously jamming... lol... head all bopping...

Sugar-N-Spice - Thanks for the encouraging words. I was sure I would drop to 167 or somewhere in that ballpark. I just needed to throw a tantrum I guess. :hug:


iwantnewpants - lol...I love the avatar!!! Mike Ditka is cool... :cool:

I know, 3 pounds is good. I hate the scale though. He's so judgmental. Much like the Chinese teacup... ;)


miafluker- That ticker is adorable! :D


Amany- Thanks for the chin up. :hug: I'm okay now. I spent some time doing heavy duty housework, it gives me something to be happy about for a while. I love a freshly deep cleaned house... mmmmmmmm.... pine smell.... bleach....mmmmm

*jumps up and goes WOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOO (like in the pine-sol commercial)*


sapphire35 - Thanks for all your support, and keeping your eye on me for the last day or so. :hug:

miafluker
09-15-2006, 06:32 PM
Mia... :rofl: :rofl: So, what you're saying is that now you're a professional kisser???????? Which one was it? The only one that stands out to me vividly was Ricky Martin. LOL

i dont even remember which was which but i know i was crazy about them and ralph machio(karate kid)
those were the days when it was about the jets,madanna, prince,bon jovi, richard marx i could go on and on and on but im giving a shot out ot my all time favorite kenny g

miafluker
09-15-2006, 06:34 PM
by the way what the heck is wrong with me i just finished like 10 min of turbo jam and did the ab section of yoga booty and then attempted to do my latin reggaeton dance workout but after 10min hubby came in and was staring messed my mood all up:dizzy: im just going to hit the ab lounge

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 08:09 PM
Hey, did we ever decide if we were going to start a book??? I'm just about to end one now, so good time for me. :)

Aqua, wanna come here and clean my house? LOL I wish I could find the motivation to clean top to bottom. Lately I tend to just do the necessary stuff like laundry, bathrooms & the kitchen. Don't worry chicky, you are doing an amazing job with your weightloss! Keep doing what you're doing, you're body will respond.

Hun.e.B
09-15-2006, 08:41 PM
I dont think anything got decided on, just lots of ideas thrown around.

Liz! Woman you are crazy! I love it!! LOL! Although I'm almost afraid to know what it is thats swimming around in that oh so creative head of yours! LOL!!

Mia...a smorgasborg (sp?) of exercise tonight! LOL!! As long as you keep that heart rate up!

Amanda's pants are gonna be falling off soon!!! LOL!!

Danielle...I had a sneaking suspision that whatever has invaded your house was gonna make its way to the kids. At least they all got it at once and you dont gotta stretch it all out over weeks and weeks. I hope the icky bugs leave soon!!! Ready to get back on track?

Did anyone watch Oprah today? They had those 2 docs on there again. I love this episode talking about what is good for your body and what isnt. The 5 things to avoid : high fructose corn syrup, partially hydrogonized oil, sugar, animal fats (sat fat) and enriched flour.

Just waiting for dh to get home so we can hit the parade of homes...oh to dream! Some day I'll have a house like that I swear I will! I also means we are eating out but with the rain and the cold I'm thinking a small chili from wendy's sounds fabu! Have a great night all!

~melissa

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 09:32 PM
Yes I saw Oprah today. Very interesting to see how great that woman looked just after 3 months. But honestly, I don't think it wasn't anything that I didn't know before. Or that anyone wouldn't know, for that matter! I think all of us would look that good with clean eating and lots of exercise. Sorta how we'll all look in 90 days! LOL. I thought dr phil today was a good one. Not sure if everyone saw it, we get him twice a day here for some reason. Anywyas, it was essentially about 3 women who had made changes for the better in appearances but still weren't happy. One woman had GPS and went from a 24 to a 4. She lost the weight and her dh gained. He said that she was just too hot, but she said she still felt heavy and large despite the huge change. Body image is so key on this journey of ours! How hard we have to work on making sure the outside matches the inside. I dare anybody to ever say that weightloss is easy! :nono:

Sugar-N-Spice
09-15-2006, 09:38 PM
Melissa, definitely ready to stay on track now that I am feeling better. It was bound to catch up to my kids, I just wish it woulda waited til after today when dd was supposed to perform. Have a great time tonight with the family. What's more, stay warm & dry! I hear its freezing up there already! No wonder chili sounds good to you tonight! Bbbrrrrrrr! And did I already mention how proud I am of you and the awesome week you had?!?! Just keep that momentum and I know you will see great results!

lovethatsara
09-15-2006, 10:25 PM
Sorry for the late roll call....

lovethatsara - Sara
22 years old, 23 in Jan
Engaged - December will be 3yrs
No Children - but i have some fish.
im an administrative assistant (sounds like an important way of saying secretary hehehe)

Amany
09-15-2006, 11:26 PM
Liz - Wow no one has ever written a play about me. Why I feel honored! And to have rock star status on top of it!! I hope I don't go all diva on you guys. Can somebody say, "Whitney Houston"? :eek: Yikes! :lol:
Thanks for all the support Liz. :hug:

Danielle - Three down?! Holy moly!! :faint: Well, at least they're all getting it out of the way now. Like Melissa said. Poor darlins.
I really hope I don't become a bad MIL one day. I don't know if I'm a good SIL or not. I mainly just try to stay uninvolved. Regardless of what I think (or thought) of my brothers' wives, what goes on in their homes is none of my beeswax.
I like Dr Phil a lot. I just hate that he's gone all "Hollywood". :rolleyes: He's still cool most of the time though. Speaking of in laws, I love his in law shows.

Aqua - Your house smells like Pine Sol and Bleach?? I'm jealous. I wonder what our apartment smells like. Let's see...*sniff, sniff* Smells like bacon! :rofl:
Congrats again chicky.

Melissa - I hope you like the parade of homes. I've heard of such things, but I've never done it. I think I'd like to though. Sounds cool. And motivational.
Oh, how I'd love for my favorite pants to fall off of me. Then I could buy my absolute fave pants. Victoria's Secret Jeans. They're the best jeans ever. The fit my body perfectly. Well, they used to. :(

I would love to read a book with you guys. Why don't we each suggest one and then decide on what to read? I'm sure there's a better way to go about choosing one though. Someone will mention something. Oh, I know!!

Let's list our fave books and our birthdays. We could go in order of birthday. Starting with the next person's bday. Or we can go in order, starting with January. :shrug: Just brainstorming.... I would love for us to read Watermelon or Rachel's Holiday by Marian Keyes. Her books have quirky, dark humor. Mainly rather fun though. Please chime in. Maybe by the end of the weekend we'll have figured something out. ;)

This is Marian Keyes' website: http://mariankeyes.com/

I made myself some toast earlier for my nausea. Now I feel like the bread is sitting at the bottom of my stomach like a rock. Ugh! Except for an occasional flat pita, I have had any type of bread in a long, long time. I don't think it agrees with me. But no more nausea! :D

Amany
09-15-2006, 11:34 PM
By the way, my Leslie Sansone 4 Mile came today. Four miles in a 45 minute workout. Can't wait to tackle it!!

lovethatsara
09-16-2006, 12:07 AM
I would love to do the birthday thing. I like to send e-cards :) for birthdays. :)

Sugar-N-Spice
09-16-2006, 01:48 AM
Sara, I think Amanda meant to use birthdays as a way to determine an order for who would choose a book if e decide to do a book club.

Amanda, yep the troops are sickies! They're driving me nuts is what they're doing! LOL everyone is grumpy and impatient. Just what I need when I'm trying to feel better. I can't wait to hear how you like the new @Leslie dvd! I can barely get thru the 3 miler right now! I like the idea of everyone putting out their fave authors or titles.

I overate dinner tonight. Not even sure where it came from as I wasn't feeling all that hungry. This is where that mindful eating has to come into play. *sigh* I am afraid this is stuff I am going to have to think about for the rest of my life. Some days I would really love to feel normal when it comes to planning meals, eating, just being around food in general. I'm afraid this is just one of those things I will always question, "why me"??????

miafluker
09-16-2006, 01:57 AM
good night everyone i couldnt sleep so i playes with my page but now im tired have a good night

p.s. i didnt meet my water goal ill try again tomorrow
i got sick of changing the water ticker every 2o min

AquaChick
09-16-2006, 10:28 AM
:coffee: Good Morning Ladies!:sunny:


Sugar-N-Spice- Sorry hon... one house is plenty.lol.... I have 4 males to clean up after.... :stress: I asked my husband yesterday if he was planning an arts and crafts project. He said "Why?" and I said when I went into his bathroom (yes he has his own private throne room) there were about 6 or 7 toilet paper roll cores and 2 or 3 empty beer bottles. *How did he manage a mess like what I found in less than a week? :shrug: * I couldn't decide if he was
A. going MacGyver on me, and was building a homeade bomb,
B. he was creating a windchime for a secret art class he was taking,
C. I had to accept that he is just truly lazy and can't find a wastebasket.

Amany- lol... bacon is a good smell!!! lol!!!!
Four miles!!!! You go!!!! Yay!!! :carrot:

Good morning to all of you ladies! :grouphug:

Hun.e.B
09-16-2006, 01:05 PM
LOL oh Aqua! I love your possible explanations for dh's slobness!! Mine is the EXACT same way!! He loves to have a beer in the shower, my dh showers twice a day...anyway never fails I get in there in the morning and I get to shower with a beer bottle! We wont talk about the rust stain it leaves! And noone in my family can hit the garbage can when they throw away their tissues so it never fails there is more tissue on the floor around the can than in it. And towels...hang them up...who woulda thunk it! Apparently dirty clothes go on the floor next to the hamper and not in it. oye I could go on forever! I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for my windchime!

Danielle...you are making changes everyday towards becoming more in control of that food. Dont beat yourself up over a slip, pick yourself up and get moving on. Wasnt friday nights your one night off anyway? So yeah you coulda done better but its okay! Tonight will be better. Youve gotta find your reason for NOT doing it. I think you need to go buy yourself a skinny outfit or get planning a vacation or something. Your reason NOT to forget about your goals!

Amanda...sorry hun but you are already a rock star!!! to us anyway! LOL! The parade of homes is really neat, to see these huge beautiful houses. Its funny though my favorite one actually was one that wasnt too huge, modest size but room for everyone. One house was so enormous and all i could think was....imagine having to vaccuum all this!!! 3 floors, all the stairs were carpeted and just wasted space everywhere all carpeted. I cant wait to own my own home! What is this nausea all about btw?

Mia...back on that water today!!! You can do it!! I know you can!

Sara....I remember there used to be a secretaries day..now its called administrative assistants day! LOL! I think mothers day needs to be changed to CEO day!

I like Marian Keyes...I think I read watermelon. Lets get a book picked for October though.

Oh JT is on MTV....he is just so damn cute!! I love love love that song! Makes me dance everytime!

Have a wonderful saturday everyone!!!

~melissa

Amany
09-16-2006, 01:24 PM
Hello Lovelies!!

I'm having some wicked cravings this weekend. So far I haven't given in but, oh mama, are they intense! I can't figure out if they're TOM related or from something else.

Yesterday it took every once of strength I could muster not to eat any of the birthday cake that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 people offered me at work. It was from my favorite bakery too! Ok, now how awful is it that I can rate at least 5 or 6 of the bakeries in the area? Then it just got crazier. Thinking about the cake brought on, guess what, a case of the "compulsions". Yep I felt my pulse quicken and I could imagine myself in a weekend long frenzy. Then because I kept thinking about sweets, I wanted a candy bar and had planned to eat one and get the craving out of the way. I decided against it and avoided the lunch room so I wouldn't be tempted. Then, wouldn't you know it, my mother called me and told me that my nieces were talking about how I used to take them to the apple cider mill when I they were little and they thought it would be fun if I took them this year. :eek: Freshly fried donuts, caramel apples, apple cider and all those other no-nos are the last thing I need to be around. Good grief!

Maybe it's the combination of TOM and the fact that I didn't have my afternoon snack with me that's hurting me. I'm sure eating the two pieces of toast last night isn't helping matters. Simple carbs can cause cravings. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I met my husband for lunch yesterday and he was craving my favorite store bought cookies. This is a man who rarely eats sweets. If he bought a package of cookies, he'd eat three and the rest would go stale. Who's ever heard of such nonsense?! Letting cookies go stale.... I've never done that before. :dunno: But I actually found stale cookies at his house back when we were dating.

Of course a couple of hours later he was over it. He wasn't interested in having cookies anymore. Is the man crazy?!! Doesn't he know that when you have a cookie craving, the decent thing to do is keep it for at least 2 or 3 days?!! :tantrum: The man just isn't human, I tell ya.

I will try to maintain my composure this weekend, but I can't make any promises. I'm feeling weak.... :( If I thought I could just have something and be done with it, then I would have it. But this weekend is really strange. I have feeling that if I started now, it wouldn't stop until Sunday night.

Know what I just thought about? I've lost 3 pounds in the past two weeks. If I was on CFC, would the panel bash me over the head? :dizzy: :lol:

Aqua - I'm also trying to figure out what your husband is up to in his throne room. It's thrown me for a loop. I'll have to consider it for a day or two and report back to you. :lol:

Hi Mia :wave: You'll get the water in today. Until you get going really good, it will be hit or miss. Then you'll always be drinking it. You'll drink so much water that you'll lose track.

Danielle - That's exactly what I meant when I mentioned birthdays. It's a way to select the books.
Yes, it does seem that we'll always have to be conscious of eating portions. I find that I do a little better when I purposely portion a bit less than I think I'll be satisfied with. Then, if I'm still hungry, I'll give myself about 15 minutes before I refill. Usually I don't. I can't tell you how many tricks I've come up with to keep myself from overeating. Those tricks are better than any diet pill ever could be for me. Diet pills do me no good. My overeating has never had a thing to do with me being hungry. I wonder just how successful they are for other people?

Well, I'd better go. Maybe doing some exercise will help to calm the frenzy.

Amany
09-16-2006, 01:31 PM
Hi Melissa!!! :wave: I didn't scroll far enough to see your post. I'm glad you had fun yesterday. There's a lady at my job that owns a huge house. She lives in the same neighborhood as some of the wealthier Pistons and her house is just as spectacular. Her husband is really wealthy. They don't clean their own house though. Gosh, I hope I don't offend anyone by typing this....
Every year or so she and her husband go to the Phillipines and bring back a cleaning woman. She lives with them for a year or so and works for food and shelter. Plus a small stipend. And that's how they keep their huge home clean for cheap. I was like, "Can you get in trouble for that?" She just laughed and told me I was "cute". Oh well.... :lol:
Don't you just love Marian Keyes? I've read most of her books. The only one I didn't like was Angels. Her books definitely have the same formula, but I enjoy them still.

Hun.e.B
09-16-2006, 01:41 PM
LOL amanda, I'm pretty sure thats illegal! OYE! Hey at least she recognises your cuteness none the less LOL!!

Stale cookies? I didnt know there was such a thing, imagine that!! LOL!

I have enjoyed Marian Keyes. Janet Evanovich and Harlan Coben are my favorite authors. I like Carly Phillips too but she's pretty....how to say this....fresh! LOL! Lets see who else...Jane Green (Jemima J is great!), Joanne Fluke, Jennifer Weiner, Meg Cabot, Sarah Strohmeyer...there are tons more I love to read!

~melissa

Amany
09-16-2006, 01:42 PM
Ok, I'll start off.
I suggest we read Rachel's Holiday by Marian Keyes.
My birthday is February 3.

AquaChick
09-16-2006, 01:48 PM
Hun.e.B- Is it possible we have married the same slob, er, I mean man? :lol: I always pick up clothes of the floor!!!! I find his socks in the oddest places.... one under the computer desk, and the other one will shed itself in front of the fridge, or some such thing.

One thing that annoys me to NO END... he will wear house shoes (aka slippers) OUTSIDE. What's the point of house shoes? Might as well wear your friggin' tennis shoes all over the house....

Mine loves to put a beer bottle up high on the medicine cabinet where I can barely reach it. It's a bit of a tradition for him. The other ones end up on the sink area.

:lol: I don't wanna think about a bathroom windchime either... I would hate to think how a man might find it funny to create a "breeze" to make the chimes move.... lol... bring on the air wick scented oils.... lol.... :lol3:


Amany- Hi Amany! :hug: I'm so proud of you! Way to dismiss the cake. That would be sooo hard for me too! I did the same last night. Hubby offered me to take a "mental health" break from the diet, but I did not accept. He also to us to brunch this morning, but I only had a black coffee and chit chatted. He was so proud of me. Felt good afterwards, but dang if I didn't wanna grab me some syrup laden pancake.... it was a testament to my will to lose this weight. I know I'm in it for real, and it feels good. You should feel good about your victory as well.

Shoot! I forgot about the apple orchard!!! We have one too, fresh apple donuts, funnel cakes, and any other pastry or fried apple, or chocolate dipped apple item you can imagine... Be strong Amany. We can still take our loved ones, we are different now. We have to remind ourselves we are different... :D

Honey, if you want a snickers, get a snickers... but,but these treats are special. As long as we relish it for its moment and not let it send us into a compulsive binge, it's okay. We have to learn to handle those oppertunities properly at some point. It could be a good thing for you to have a little treat while showing your abilty to portion control. :hug:

needhelp27
09-16-2006, 01:49 PM
Wut's Rachel's Holiday about?

needhelp27
09-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Also, what are some good sports bras for when you workout that will hold the girls in place??

Amany
09-16-2006, 02:04 PM
Needhelp I bought some sports bras by Curvations. The keep the girls in line pretty well.

Here's an exerpt from Rachel's Holiday. http://mariankeyes.com/books/rachelsHoliday/content/index.html

Here's the some info from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Rachel-s-Holiday-Marian-Keyes/dp/0060090383/sr=8-1/qid=1158426243/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-6838246-1327203?ie=UTF8&s=books

needhelp27
09-16-2006, 02:07 PM
I think that we should do that book, it looks good

Hun.e.B
09-16-2006, 02:28 PM
Oh curvation has great bras for a decent price! I like those! I've got the book on my list I'll have to check the library and see when I can get it in!

~melissa

Amany
09-16-2006, 03:36 PM
If you have any problems finding Rachel's Holiday, Half.com has it for 75 cents or you can buy used from Amazon for under 2 dollars.

I just finished Leslie Sansone's Fat Burning Four Mile Walk. Intense!! :carrot:

The aerobic part was great. It was just indoor walking and jogging. Very simple and effective. Oh, but the toning!! Good gracious! I had to stop a few times. I had sweat dripping everywhere. The backs of my legs are still tingling. The workout was just what I needed to feel better. Remember that frenzy I wrote about before. It seems to have calmed. I still have a craving, which I may or may not give in to. But I'm no longer in binge mode. Go figure. A good workout took away my desire to binge. Amazing.

I got the Curvation bras off ebay. I bought four of them for about $25. That included shipping.

Amany
09-16-2006, 04:06 PM
:lol: I don't wanna think about a bathroom windchime either... I would hate to think how a man might find it funny to create a "breeze" to make the chimes move.... lol... bring on the air wick scented oils.... lol.... :lol3:

There has been many a night that my beloved's breezes have awakened me from my sleep!!!! :fr: He was not very "be loved" during those moments. :mad:

AquaChick
09-16-2006, 04:48 PM
YOWSA!!!!! lol......:lol:

Men...they are something else..... lol...

God, I love them though....

miafluker
09-16-2006, 05:10 PM
hi
Trish,melissa,heather,Becky,Amanda,Elyisha,Dani,Li z,Sara.......
amanda you are making me want to try walk away the pounds but another workout video hubby would kill me

im doing okay on water today i caved and ate a pack of powdered donuts the weird thing is if i hadnt went to the store i wouldnt have even wanted themm, i have to work on that
anyway hope everyone is doing okay i need to go mop my kitchen

Hun.e.B
09-16-2006, 06:59 PM
Good Afternoon all. I finished my tree and I'm all set to start my Fall challenge next week. Here is a picture of my tree before. I think that next Friday after weigh in I'll take a before picture standing next to my tree too. And then another on the first day of winter, hopefully all my leaves will be gone from my tree! I put 30 leaves on the tree, I'm hoping to lose 26 of them! 1 leaf = 1 lb lost!

rkrs6673
09-16-2006, 07:26 PM
Hello ladies.. I have great news.. I am finally less than my drivers license :) It is silly but when I was way over 285 (maybe I was 350 at the time) I still told them that I was only 285. I just happen to notice that I was under it today when I was paying for something:) I can't wait until the day I am able to put my goal weight on it..

How is everyone else doing? I wish everyone a great day and wonderful weekend!

Amany
09-16-2006, 07:47 PM
Melissa - What a great way to stay motivated. I like the fall leaf idea. Can't wait to see you on the first day of winter!!

Aqua - You're a strong, strong woman. I would have had a really hard time drinking just coffee. You're doing such a great job. I don't think I remember you having any slip ups since before the liquid diet. You're such an inspiration.

Kenya - Congrats on the weight loss chick. Good seeing you.

Mia - I know what you mean. My husband is a shell of his former self. There was a time that I thought he'd put me out for buying all the videos. Now he knows he's been defeated. :lol:

Are you guys familiar with the guy that has the pet show that comes on Saturday mornings? He wears glasses and has all these pets around that shouldn't be getting along, but they do. To this day I think he gives those animals anti-depressants. Well, this morning he had some parrotlets on. I want some!

My husband, on the other hand, wants bats. Yes I said bats. He's already researched it and everything. We bought a television from a nearby person on Ebay. When he picked it up he saw the guy's pet bats and has wanted them ever since. We need to have a kid soon. I think we're both just looking for something to nuture. Have I ever mentioned that I have 50 plants? :dizzy: :lol:

I know our landlord thinks we're nuts. My husband asked her if it would be ok for us to have pet bats. A little while ago I asked her about running up and down the stairs. She said it was ok, but I know she's like, "wth...." :lol3:

Butterfly50
09-16-2006, 07:49 PM
Good Evening Ladies, Boy has today went well for me. I have been cleaning house all day here trying to get ready for a get togeather for my sons 17 th Bday tomorrow. Boy Cant believe that he is turning 17. To start off I no longer have the Step son here he has left and went to live with his mother for a while. THANK GOD. We were sitting here waiting here for him to go pick up his last check when his recruter called and told him it would be Dec before he could leave so I talked him into going to his moms and live their till he leaves. My house is so peacefull and all the kids Love that he is gone.
I dont know How I will do tomorrow But I plan on being 100% on monday and getting back into the game. BL starts on the 20 too I cant wait. That will be fun looks like they are going to be doing different too 50 People .

I better be going still ahve some more cleaning to doo. I am soo Excited and cannot wait till monday...:carrot: :carrot:

Sugar-N-Spice
09-16-2006, 08:19 PM
Howdy Chicks!

Getting a very late start on here today. I have been a very lazy girl today and have just started getting my butt in gear and cleaning house. It was nice to laze around a bit, but I can't seem to get past that guilt factor when I do it. So all in all, I don't know if I enjoyed it all that much! lol

Aqua, I think our husbands need to have a man convention of their own! They all sound very similar in their habits so maybe getting them together will be good. Mine leaves magazines everywhere in the bathroom and darnit if he can find the closet to put his shoes away. I can't tell you how many times I've tripped over those clodhoppers! Mine doesn't do beer bottles in the bathroom but for some reason lines them up on my kitchen counter. WHY? :dunno:

Amanda, I'm glad you liked your new workout! I can't wait to get my fitness level up to yours! You gave me a really good idea....maybe I will run up and down the stairs here at 3am just to say howdy to the neighbors up there!? Whatcha think? I could get some exercise and "be that neighbor"! They had company last night again so I'm a bit irked still this evening, can ya tell? I really commend you for having a grip on your cravings! I do not know if I could have been as strong,especially since you've not been feeling well lately. Good for you!!!

Melissa, love the tree! I'm gonna make one tonight I think. Might be good to see something visual to keep me going. All the while I'm thinking this, the other part of my brain is trying to figure out where to "hide" it so I don't have to explain it to anyone. How sad is that? Am I completely freaked out to have my family hold me accountable or what? ugh!

Mia, your powdered doughnut excursion is exactly why I HATE going to the grocery store alone. When I have dh with me there is no room for excuses, I wouldn't dare buy "bad" stuff while he's there. This is one part of my weekly routine that I am desperately trying to work on, I'm afraid it's been years though.

Bonnie & Kenya, it's great to see you ladies! :wave:


So I just finished scrubbing my bathrooms without hacking up my lungs so I guess this is progress! woo hoo! Actually it feels good to be productive, so on that note, I'm gonna go see what else I can find to do. Be good ya'll! ♥

AquaChick
09-16-2006, 08:33 PM
Heheheheheheh!!!!! I got another good man-ism for ya!!!

Have you ever sent him to do some shopping and he puts it all out on the counter like it's on display...? I walk in and I'm like, "okay thank you, good job, etc"...., but then I have to put all the stuff in the cabinets...

Hun.e.B
09-16-2006, 08:46 PM
Amanda you dont want a parrot! LOL! My mother had an african grey, he was a really cool bird and talked so much. But he ended up having to live with us for a couple of months and OMG! I couldnt wait to get that thing out of here! It was constantly making the LOUD beeping noises that the answering machine makes, or ringing like the phone. Or we'd be watching tv and he would just go off! Oh that high pitched scream he would do if you werent paying attention to him!! UGH! Oh and he'd throw his food! I'm sure not all birds are that way but I will never have another!

Danielle I didnt hide my tree its right there in the kitchen and i explained to my whole family what it was there for and what I was doing with it. They all seemed really excited about it, I bet your family will too! They want this for you!

Kenya...way to go!!! I lied about my weight on mine too! LOL! It used to say 180, when I renewed it this past september i put 200 just because noone is gonna believe 180...even 200 is a stretch! LOL!! Excellent job on an amazing accomplishment!! Keep up the good work!!

Okay...Sunday is my laundry day, but saturday i go and get everything sorted out into loads. Well SOMEONE!! went ripping through the piles looking for something and now its all in one great big pile in the middle of the hall!!!! WTF!? I'm a little pissed to say the least but I will NOT resort them. Everyone is grounded till its back the way I had it!

Oh and guess what...snow on the mountains here! In september! bubye summer!

Okay I'm burnt out from homework and i had to go to walmart on a saturday so you can imagine my mood! I'm gonna go make MYSELF some teryaki stirfry everyone else is on their own! Have a lovely night!

~melissa

Hun.e.B
09-16-2006, 08:48 PM
LOL...missed your post aqua! First of all I usually dont dare send my dh shopping hes hopeless! But I can say that yes when he does do something like empty the dishwasher or take out the trash or fold a load of laundry, you'd think he cured cancer! Shame on me if i dont praise for it! LOL!! Now why is it we love them again?

~melissa

Sugar-N-Spice
09-16-2006, 09:06 PM
Heheheheheheh!!!!! I got another good man-ism for ya!!!

Have you ever sent him to do some shopping and he puts it all out on the counter like it's on display...? I walk in and I'm like, "okay thank you, good job, etc"...., but then I have to put all the stuff in the cabinets...

This is EXACTLY what I go thru EVERY week that dh is with me. He will take it all outta the bags but then leave it on the counter. Almost like so he can marvel at his great accomplishment? I tell him great, now when you can carry a watermelon in your gut for 9 months 3x, pack up a 3000sf home ALONE 1 week after giving birth with 2 other small chidren underfoot, clean house, cook, do laundry, AND help with homework all at the same time, come see me!


Melissa, I know I know..my attitude about this whole thing is bad isn't it? I guess I am afraid of failing them all? Afraid of failing myself I suppose is a better answer. By having the tree out, by vocalizing this, makes it something to hold me accountable with them = YIKES. I am just lazy is what it is! By saying something means I actually have to follow thru! Why can't I just quit thinking and analyzing so much? I know what I want, and I know I can do it, I've done it before. WTH? :dunno:

Amany
09-17-2006, 12:39 AM
My husband is pretty good with a grocery list. The list has to be very specific though. In fact I try very hard to list the groceries in order of how he'll come across them in stores. That said, I've only sent him to the store with a list 2, maybe 3 times.

When we have new groceries the same thing happens each time. While I'm putting the food away, he's plopped in front of the television or the computer. I can always count on him to ask me for a beer, cup of tea or something to eat. Like I'm supposed to stop putting away the groceries to do that. He says that he doesn't know why that irritates me. Besides, he doesn't know where I put everything in my kitchen. :rolleyes:

A manism that irritates me is that sometimes I'll be in the kitchen making something to eat and ask my husband if he wants anything. No, he's not hungry. Ok. So I go ahead and make enough for just me. As soon as I sit down and get one bite, he'll change his mind and ask me to fix something for him. And will look at me like he's expecting me to fix it right then. If I tell him that he's going to have to wait until I'm done, he looks like a wounded child or something.

Hi Bonnie! :wave: I'm glad you have your peaceful home back. Good for you for getting right back on track. That's not always and easy thing to do, so :bravo:.

Danielle - I've been meaning to ask you how things had been going with your neighbors. Yes. Definitely run the stairs at 3 in the morning. Get them to exercise with you. Maybe that will tire their a**es out and all of you could get some rest afterwards.
Your family loves you. They will not see you as a failure. But if you don't want to display your tree you don't have to. Not until you're ready. It takes a lot to get your mind just right for all of this. I've been really struggling for the past two weeks. It's like I had to fix my focus so I could start and be successful. Now I'm at a point where I have to start really digging in to get the rest of it done. It's not easy at all. I shudder at the thought of even telling you what I've eaten today. :(
I guess the good thing is that I know I won't be eating off plan tomorrow. And even though I know the last two weeks haven't been anywhere near my best, they haven't been bad. Yes, these are setbacks to my progress but they are victories for me. I'm beginning to understand myself. Sometimes it just takes a while to get it together. You always say that losing weight is mostly mental, and you're right. The more you come to understand your eating and exercise patterns, the more successful you will become. If it takes time, that's fine. Just be patient with yourself. Besides, you're not looking for a quick fix. You want this to last a lifetime. Maybe for right now, focus mainly on your exercise. I think the rest will fall into place for you. :hug: You're going to do just fine. Is it you or Melissa who's favorite quote is "Progress not perfection."? It's a really great quote. You are by no means lazy. So please erase that from your mind.

Melissa - I think my wanting a bird might be a temporary feeling. Unfortunately, my husband really does want bats. :lol: Those parrotlets are so cute! They're even smaller than parrakeets. They eat more relative to their size, so of course that means they'd poop all day long. I think I'd be paranoid about killing them. If you keep them as pets you shouldn't use aerosols, plug-in frangrances, Fabreeze, cook with teflon pans, etc, etc, etc....

Mia - Don't beat yourself up over the donuts. Just keep up the exercise and keep drinking your water.

Aqua - The real rock star. I'm always, always so proud of you! :hug: I'm so glad that we're all a part of this group.

Sugar-N-Spice
09-17-2006, 01:07 AM
Amanda, the neighbors are "alright". Its about all I can say really. While the noise is not so annoying anymore...they just annoy me period. This weekend I've realized that there are ALWAYS people there. You wouldn't know it by looking in our carport, all I see are the usual cars...while I'm thankful that these idiots aren't clogging up my living space, it's a little unnerving to realize that we don't know exactly who's around either. What do they do, shuttle them in??? Today literally 6 people clomped down the stairs and not a strange car to be found. Just weird to me. Thank you for your kind words, I really needed them. It seems like I can go from being on cloud 9 and so willing to committ to this lifestyle, and at other moments I am so low and overwhelmed by the sheer volume of weight that I need to lose. Part of this could be due in part that AF is due at any time I think, so emotions are always high. However, I cannot let this be an excuse to not move forward. I know that I am the only one who can make or break this, no one's effort but my own will get me to my goal. I almost feel like a deer caught in headlights. I guess maybe I need to not think of the big big picture but just keep plodding along and see where it takes me in smaller doses. Thanks for listening, seems like you always are there at just the right time. :hug:

Now I can certainly relate to your dilemma with your hubby and food. lol Mine won't ask me for something made, instead he will just pick and nibble off what I've got. Til finally I ask in a huff, do you want anything!?! As I give him the evil eye of course! He is also worse than the kids for getting his dirty clothes in the hamper. Who ever said I was the maid??? Apparently he thinks so. And I wonder why I do not get paid! LOL :D

Hey, I meant to ask, did you get your callanetics stuff yet? Let me know how the book is, I've never seen that and now I'm curious. I dug out my videos the other day, but of course they're still just sitting there. lol

Sugar-N-Spice
09-17-2006, 01:08 AM
Oooooooo nice Avi, Amanda!!!! She's gorgeous!

lovethatsara
09-17-2006, 01:59 AM
Luckily I dont have to worry about the groceries. Matt and I usually go together and we both start bringing up stuff and once i get inside I put them away and when hes finishing bringing them up he helps put them away.

If he ever goes by himself he puts them away so I dont have to worry about that.

he likes lists and i just like to look.

Amany
09-17-2006, 02:49 AM
Sara - I think Matt needs to give our guys a short lecture about their responsibilities to the groceries. :lol: It's good to see you. How's your weekend going so far?

Danielle - I haven't gotten my book or dvd yet. I'm still waiting patiently. From what I've been reading, it's suggested that you do Callanetics for an hour twice a week. Is than right? I'm excited and scared all at once. I'm excited to get the results from the exercise. But I'm afraid of the exercises! I understand they're pretty intense.
Yeah, I thought I'd change the avi. She is a pretty girl. She certainly inherited her dad's good looks. He wasn't very happy to hear that she decided to start boxing. I can't say I blame him one bit. My husband boxed as an ameteur from the time he was eleven until his early twenties. Now, ten years later, he has occasional back pain because of it. It's a rough, rough sport.

miafluker
09-17-2006, 11:33 AM
here's the link http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1408563#post1408563