General Diet Plans and Questions - Doin it the old fashioned way #2!




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aphil
09-09-2001, 01:21 PM
Hi all,
Welcome to our new thread-the old one was getting mighty long! That is a good thing though-it means we have been giving each other all that wonderful support and encouragement.
To the newbies to this thread-we are a group of wonderfully supportive women who are counting calories or WW points and excercising to get or stay fit. We do not low-carb, take a ton of weight loss supplements, or do other quick fixes. We also talk about what is going on with our lives, and share stories and interests with each other. We have become great friends.
The mainstay of our support group now is myself-Aphil,
Willbethin,Southern Gal, Sadiegirl, and Atkhorses. We welcome anyone who wants to join us, and we want to hear about your good days and your bad. We will support you and encourage, never to beat you up for something you shouldn't have ate.
Welcome,
Aphil;)


southern gal
09-09-2001, 10:04 PM
The other thread really was getting long! And what a nice welcome to anyone who wants to join us in our weight loss venture! Ditto what aphil said - this group is super supportive and I personally have really welcomed all the encouragement!

Hope everyone had a good weekend. I've still got to get school stuff ready for tomorrow (why am I always writing lesson plans on Sunday night?!!!) so I will catch everyone later.

Southern Gal:dizzy:

willbethin
09-10-2001, 02:13 PM
aphil, i am sorry , sometimes i get confused with all the posts i read. i hope you are feeling better, sorry for all you are going through. great new post.

i did have a great weekend, i overate, but had fun. i am back on track though , today. southern gal, congrats on the weight loss, woo hoo. good for you.

lets keep up the great attitude girls.


sadiegirl
09-10-2001, 05:04 PM
Hi aphill, southeren gal willbethin and others. I am still sticking to my plan and weigh in is tonight. I am hoping that it shows good results. I want to crack the 200 soon.
Sorry to hear about the not feeling well. a lot of people are getting sick withcolds lately.

246/202.5/165

aphil
09-11-2001, 01:15 AM
Hi all,
Sadiegirl, hope the weigh in is good-I'm pulling for you!
Southern Gal-Thanks for the support-I need it! ha ha
Willbethin-Hope you had a good time this weekend.
Girls-I found a great stress releiver-shopping on e-bay! It's addicting, but I love it. I did it today when the kids were sleeping, instead of cleaning! I'm taking your advice! I felt naughty! I love to shop and bargain hunt, but don't have the time to take the kids all around with me, so this was awesome! I found a vintage Big Bird Wilton cake pan for 1.50, I am going to use it for my son's 1rst birthday in the spring. (My mother in law and I collect the shaped pans for all of our parties)
Well, I am feeling better today-less stressed and more energetic. I am still taking my vitamins, and even went to the park with the kids-thanks Atkhorses for the advice!
My mom called me today and ran into my old high school flame, and she said his wife was bigger than me-so that made me feel better!
:devil:
Well, gotta go to bed now,
Take care
Aphil

willbethin
09-11-2001, 08:39 PM
hey guys, southern gal , you are soooooooo busy, but i bet it keeps you out of the kitchen.

sadie, how did that weigh in go???

aphil, bet it made you feel good about the other girl being bigger?? you better watch your money, shopping online can get out of hand, but if you are having fun, go for it.

well girls, i had a horrible day, eating wise. here is what is happening, i was suppose to babysit a girl in my daughters kindergarten class and now the mom wants custody of her back so that fell through, and that was my winter job, now i find myself back in the kitchen because i just dont have enough to do, i have to get busy. i will have kids to watch, only when kids have off of school, so they will be busy days. i cant gain back the 13 lbs i lost. i was doing so well.:?: i still excercise and drink my water. i am sure i will figure this out, but in the mean time, i have to stay out of the kitchen.:(

aphil
09-11-2001, 09:23 PM
Hi all,
Hang in there Willbethin!
I am pretty frugal as far as the online shopping goes-I always keep track of what the shipping costs are, and just add that in with the price to see if I am still getting a deal. It's the browsing I find the most fun!
Hope you all are doing well...
Aphil

aphil
09-14-2001, 07:08 AM
Hi all,
I haven't heard from anyone in a couple days...I hope everyone is alright-I don't know what states you are from, so I hope you aren't in locations close to what is happening.
Southern Gal-thanks for the instructions for the Mad Hatter cake.
Well, I am leaving today to go to the in-laws-Jasmine's party is tomorrow. I will check in Sunday when I get back.
I'll pray everyone is alright.
Aphil

willbethin
09-14-2001, 09:58 AM
it is so sad what is happening. me and mine are fine. i gained 2 lbs this week. and now i am on a whole new plan of action. i guess it is really not doin it the old fashioned way, but it is healthy and gives you a variety of excercieses to do.

it is the body for life, i started it yesterday. i like it cause one day a week, you get a free day, no excercise and no planned eating. eat what every you want. and you switch off, from aerobics to upper body then next day aerobics and the lower body.

i really did need to change my excercise a bit. i hope you guys are doing alright.. have fun aphil.

how is everyone else doing?? you might find me lurking around the body for life boards, but i will always check in here.

aphil
09-14-2001, 12:50 PM
Hi all,
Glad to here from you Willbethin.
I do the same sort of exercise schedule the BFLer's do, and aim to eat protein at every meal to keep my blood sugar stabilized like they do also, but I just cannot commit to the 6 scheduled meals a day in their plan, and the exercising only on an empty stomach-I have to get my excercise in when the kids will allow it, no matter when I've eaten. I was able to do stricter bodybuilding style eating regimes before I had children, but now it is just not possible!
Mrs. Jim seems to be the leader of the BFL threads, and seems nice-I hope it works for you.
I hope you will be able to stay on the program, and will continue to come and see us! If you find the strictness isn't working out for you, you always have a place here.
Aphil

willbethin
09-14-2001, 03:07 PM
i did some weights workout on my arms, but i do like his excercise routine, so i can get every part of my body going. i know what you are saying about eating the 6 meals, i can only try. but these days without a job i can really concentrate on this program. i just hope i can keep it up for the long haul. i knew i could come here for back up. i will let you know how it is going.

willbethin
09-17-2001, 07:40 AM
how is everyone doing?? i am doing good, even with getting in 6 meals, which i havent accomplished yet, i can only get 5. i calculated everything i ate one day, and i was within ww points. i just thought with eating 6 times a day i was eating more, but i am not. i often read in the past of people eating little meals throughout the day, instead of 3 big ones, and it turns out this might be for me. i dont give myself a chance to get hunger pains, i eat every 2 to 3 hrs. i just hope i can keep this up. hope everyone is doing well on their eating plan. and getting in that water and excercise. have a good one.

aphil
09-17-2001, 11:46 AM
Hi everyone,
Hope everyone is doing okay-I have been busy, but thought I would check in and see how everyone is doing. jasmine's party went well, she had a real good time.
I just bought a Madame Alexander Princess Diana doll for my mother for Christmas-she is a collector. My husband is going to kill me!:o
It will be worth it.
Things have been going okay with me-my hair loss seems to be slowing down a bit, so hopefully it will start thickening up again in a couple months. I have been staying about the same weight, which is my goal for now until I am feeling a bit better.
Southern Gal and Sadiegirl-where are you? I am curious how your losses are going.
Well, gotta go,
Aphil

sadiegirl
09-17-2001, 09:21 PM
Glad to hear from everyone. I am down another pound this week.

willbethin
09-18-2001, 10:47 AM
hello all, sadie girl, you are doing wonderful. how much is that so far?? keep going girl.

aphil, i am glad to hear you are on your way to feeling better. if the doll puts a smile on your moms face it will be worth it.

i think you are making a wise decision to maintain your weight while getting yourself better. you can always start losing when you are feeling 100%. then you can give your eating plan all your attention. you will get there. weigh in is thurs morn. but with this plan, alot of people say they gain muscle cause of all the different excercises you do. so i dont want to really watch the scale. but i am doing well with it. take care.

sadiegirl
09-18-2001, 07:01 PM
Hi willbethin! I started out at 246 and am now at 200.5 which would be 45.5 pounds. I am hoping to soon break the 200's. It has been a long road.

willbethin
09-18-2001, 08:51 PM
hey girl, you are there. wow you are awsome!!!!:) losing that much weight is something to be proud of. the most i ever lost was 17 lbs. i am only at 13 lbs right now. but i know with my never give up attitude i will get there. we all will.

hope everybody is doing well.

aphil
09-19-2001, 09:52 AM
Hi all,
Great job Sadiegirl! Can't wait to cheer you on when you break the 200 mark!
Willbethin I hope you are doing well on your new plan.
Southerngal, how are you?
Well ladies, I am going in to the doctor to have a lot of bloodwork done. I am still losing hair, and in the past month I have lost about 1/4 of it. I am going to have to wear a hat in a couple weeks if they can't figure out what is wrong. I have been so upset about it. My husband just doesn't understand-it's not like a man losing his hair.
I was really depressed last night-I told him now I am going to be fat AND bald. I just don't know what to do!!!
It is really scaring me, I keep thinking of all the things that could be wrong with me.
I am trying to be positive though, especially in front of my kids. They love me no matter what, and I keep trying to think of them.
I hope you all are doing well, and pray that I work through this soon.
Keep losing girls!
Aphil

willbethin
09-19-2001, 11:07 AM
hi aphil. i feel so bad that you are going through this, i cant even imagine what you are going through. good job keeping positive around the kids, till you know for sure.

what a scary thing losing your hair, i know i would be crying everyday, you are right about it not being no where near when a man loses his hair. i am sorry i dont have any good advice for you but to hang in there girl, and do let me know what is happening to you. i will be thinking of you, lets think positive thoughts.

i am doing good on my plan, but i am going to give in to pms today, it is my moms birthday and i am going to have a hoagie with her and probably a piece of cake, if it wasnt pms i could probably order something healthier, but i will have half for lunch and half for dinner or save for another day.

hang tough girl.

livein
09-19-2001, 01:10 PM
:?: How do I determine how many calories I need to lose weight? I weight train 2 times a week for 40 minutes and I do some type of cardio for 3 days a week for 30-45 minutes. I am 5'7 and I am currently at 170. I would like to lose about 30 pounds.

I have seen so many different calorie ranges I don't know what to follow. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

MrsJim
09-19-2001, 01:34 PM
Livein -

I don't often post on this board, but I saw your query below.

The best way to acertain how many calories you need daily is to calculate your BMR. There's an excellent site, www.hussman.com/eas, that has tons of info. However, if you just want to skip to the BMR Calculator, go here: http://www.hussman.com/eas/bmrcalc.htm

I do encourage you to read the useful info on the site, though - you'll learn a lot on how our bodies work as far as burning fat and gaining muscle (which causes you to burn even more fat!).

Take care...

baskoflove
09-20-2001, 12:12 PM
Hi guys! I am with you. I am not critical of whatever you do, but the fact is there are a few things that have to mesh to keep this nasty stuff at bay.

1. The old adage is true; it didn't come on in a day and it won't come off in a day.

2. YOU MUST BREAK old habits that cause you to eat forever, ie., tv eater, bed eater, stress eater, etc. We all have them!

3. Permanent weight loss must be a life goal and you must not look at it any other way. You have to eat what your body needs and leave the other stuff alone. Each of us is different and our body works well on different things. Losing weight is never a quick fix but a lifetime commitment. Sad but true.

The really terrific thing is that is can be done if we have patience and perserverence and accept those bad days as just something that happens and keep on going.

I have to lose about 200 lbs. I am not planning on being 140 in 6 months. I know it will take time. I am going to do this this time.
I was on Richard Simmons food mover and lost 60 lbs but I gained it back as soon as I quit using it. It is a terrific healthy program just like WW but it is not right for me because I WANT more control. What I mean is I am working on it this time. I found out my metabolic rate/calorie intake, how much I need to lose weight and what not to go below. I have put together a notebook with calorie counts in it and three weeks of menus I have set up for myself I worked hard at this and it took awhile to put together but I think it will work out great for me. I am also starting a walking plan slow at first but I will gradually get there.

Well, I have to go. I am at work and someone brought me something to do.

SEE YA Donna
:)

willbethin
09-20-2001, 01:16 PM
hello everyone, i am baack. welcome baskoflove, cute picture. it really sounds like you have got the right attitude and a terrific plan. go for it girl.

i was on richard simmons too and it wasnt enough food for me. i was on ww and just recent lost 13 lbs. until last week i decided i needed a change and once again i am finding, that it is too strict with the eating plan.

so here i am once again, doing it the most non restrictive way, eat less, eat anything i want when i want and make healthier choices. excercising and water is not a problem, i just have to get this eating thing down. i am not a quitter so i am gonna do this. i have about 50 more to lose. good luck. this is a very supportative group here. visit more often.

now i have to go to the body for life board and tell them it is just not for me, although i did learn alot from this program, i feel i cant stick with the eating plan.

willbethin
09-20-2001, 01:26 PM
hello, i just want to start by saying, i have learned alot from this program and i love the excercise part of it, but i cant do this eating plan, i am feeling deprived, like i cant have what i want until my freeday which is making me want the food more.

sometimes i just want to have a yogurt for snack and not eat a protein with it. sometimes i want a glass of milk with a piece of fruit. point is i feel i am being told what to eat and when to eat it. it feels to restrictive for me. i am thinking about food to much, almost obsessing over it. watching the clock, trying to get in every meal. i know it sounds like i am whining, but i need to eat what i am in the mood for. not what a list tells me what to eat.

i love his book and the positive attitude and i got a lot of new food ideas too. you see on ww or just eating healthy plan, i could have worked the hoagie and piece of cake into the plan. with bfl you cant. thank you for your support and good luck with your plan.

i dont feel like a quitter, because i am still striving for eating less, making healthier choices, excercising with his plan i love his excercies, and drinking my water. i will be on the old fashioned way board again.


oops, this was suppose to be in the body for life board.

Bev
09-20-2001, 06:01 PM
Has anyone used diet power to help them track their calories. I was wondering if it was any good.

willbethin
09-20-2001, 07:30 PM
sorry i cant help you i never heard of it.

2BFIT1
09-21-2001, 08:46 AM
I just want to tell Willbethin that we will miss you on the BFL board. I wish you luck in your journey to be healthy. Remember to do your exercises and make healthy food choices and you will do fine. :) Just remember though,"If you do what you 've always done, you get what you always got".

In answer to It's my life~~~I have not tried diet power BUT there is a free site called Fitday ( www.fitday.com ) where you can enter the foods, activity, etc and it will automatically calulate your totals (calories/protein/carbs,etc) . You can view my public journal on Fitday at this link if you are interested. Just click on the back-arrow to view the previous dates. Your private page will show you graphs and different reports that are not shown on the PUBLIC pages. I highly recomend it.
http://www.fitday.com/webfit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=silbar

~~~Sil :wave:

atkhorses
09-21-2001, 10:48 PM
Hi Guys, I'm back. Been vbusy with kid's school.
Been working out steadily and must admit, like willbe thin, I've tried or rather added something new! I'm counting carbs, actually the Atkins first 2 weeks, I don't know what it's called, but it works like a diuretic I think. I feel great and energetic. I've been doing so much research on this dieting thing and I was coming to a standstill with not losing, so I'm giving this a whirl.

I'm also trying to figure out how weight training/muscle building plays a part in losing. More later on that one.

Hope all is doing well. I'm still doin it the ole fashioned was because I'm not going over 1420 cals/day!!! Just eating different stuff. Let me know what you all think and thanks,
Kelley---atkhorses

aphil
09-22-2001, 02:48 PM
Hi all,
I went to the doctor and had some thyroid tests done to see if that was the cause of my hair loss, but it was okay, and it seems to be hormones and stress. So hopefully in a few weeks, it will stop and I wil start to feel better.
atkhorses-you wanted to know what we all thought of the Atkins-I personally do not recommend it. There are some muscle building benefits to eating more protein, but the induction phase of the diet is too strict and unhealthy. You are allowed no starch, fruit, and only minimal vegetables and you are putting your body into a false starvation. There are plans to lower carbs, that are healthier-if you want to go that way, try reading Protein Power, or Body for Life. These plans limit carbs, but still allow you the healthier ones like fruits and vegetables and whole grains. Where you get into trouble with carbs is the refined ones-biscuits, cake, bagels, donuts, Pop-Tarts.....
An easy way to spot these is if they are white or close to white in color, and have 1 gram of fiber or less. they cause a spike in blood sugar and cause you to be hungry sooner. Try eating bread with at least 3 grams of fiber a serving, and rice, or a baked potato instead of these. Also, by cutting out fruits and a lot of vegetables, you are losing fiber, vitamins, and antioxidants.
2BEFIT1-I am glad Willbethin is back with us. I don't think the problem with her weight loss is by not doing BFL-a program cannot work for you if you cannot stick with it.
Willbethin-try to work on not so many extras-drinks, etc. on the weekends, and I think you will see better results. You should definitely stick with the muscle building excercise you are doing-it will make a big difference in how you feel and look. I am glad you are back. You just need to buckle down a bit more.
I totally understand how you feel about being on a strict plan like BFL and it making you wnat to eat even more. I am the same way. I also am not into plans like BFL or LA Weight Loss that push their meal replacement bars or shakes. If I want protein, I would rather eat an egg or yogurt for half the cost and better taste.
Well, I better go-you all take care.
Aphil

southern gal
09-22-2001, 09:53 PM
Hi girls!

I feel like I've been out of touch for a while. I've had one sick child and then I caught the flu from him, so I was sick. Plays havoc with my exercise and eating program! I'll be back on track next week though.

Glad to hear everyone is doing well. Aphil, hang in there. If it is the stress that is causing the problems, you are dealing with it. Things will surely settle down. I've added you to my prayer list. Keep up the positive thoughts.

atkhorses, I have to agree with Aphil about the Atkins program. I've done it but it is so restrictive, it seems unhealthy. I gained back what I lost as soon as I quit the program. There are lots of followers of the low carb plans, but I know it is not for me.

willbethin, I've tried lots of different programs too. I am an avid reader, and check out every new program that comes along. Maybe one of these days, we will find the one that is perfect for us. In the meantime...we'll just do it the old fashioned way!

Hey, sadiegirl! Have you hit that 200 mark yet? You are sooooo close! I'm cheering for you and can't wait to say congratulations!

Welcome newcomers! We are glad you could join us! Hope everyone has a terrific weekend. Catch you later!

southern gal

willbethin
09-24-2001, 08:30 PM
hi everyone, i am just catching up on everyones posts.

2bfit, i just saw your post , thanks, i am still trying to figure it all out.

sadie, southern and aphil. thanks for your mentioning me in your posts. i am still trying to work things out. but i am not giving up and i always excercise and drink my water. i do need to get more strict with myself and figure out how i want to eat for the rest of my life.

atkhorses, i do agree about carbs, i feel they do make me want to eat more, but i cant stick to lowcarb diets. i am still ,like you forever reading and trying to put the information i read about all the eating plans to suit me. i just have to pick one,and get determined, i have to be stronger. which while reading bfl i was really getting motivated. i did only give it one week. the excercises and motivation i get from his plan are great, i just have to get the eating down, because it is all healthy stuff . i do not like to take supplements or protien shakes though.

hope everyone is feeling better. and still striving for a healthier lifestyle.

sadiegirl
09-30-2001, 10:25 AM
Hello everyone!! I have not had a whole lot of opportunity to check in here. I am down under 200 to 198.75. I was glad to finally break 200 as it has been too long that I have seen numbers under 200. I hope you are fine aphill & willbethin.

willbethin
09-30-2001, 07:50 PM
sadie girl, boy am i proud of you, good job girl, bet you feel great!!! keep up the good work.

hope everyone else is doing good. went to the shore this weekend, i did get french fries with cheese on the boardwalk, but i did split them with two other people. i usually get a whole bucket of fries for just me, so i felt i did better than i usually do.

was feeling a bit run down today, cant tell if it is my allergies or i am getting a cold. took some aspirins and benedryl so i hope i am feeling more energetic tomorrow to excercise. looking forward to starting a new week. new month new attitude. take care girls.

southern gal
09-30-2001, 11:29 PM
Hi all!

Sadiegirl, way to go!!! I know it feels great to see those numbers go down - I'm really proud of you for sticking with it and getting there! Yeah!!!

willbethin, what will power! Fries with cheese is a hard one to pass up. Smart thinking to share with everyone else!

I'm not doing great but tomorrow starts another week - and another month - and another chance for me to get on track! It's 11:30 here and I have to get up at 5:45 so . . . . . . . . .goodnight, girls!

Southern gal;)

willbethin
10-01-2001, 08:07 AM
thanks southergal, yup, new month new attitude, lets do it girls. we can be strong. lets just choose to eat healthier, eat less junk, excercise and drink at least 8 cups of water a day. sounds so easy right??? we can do this.

aphil, hope you are feeling better. not everyone can get online as often as me, (being recently unemployed) so i hope everyone is doing well.

livein
10-01-2001, 02:40 PM
Can you tell I'm new? I posted this as my own thread, when I thought I was posting here!

:dizzy: Okay, I have tried to do WW for almost a year. Never really doing well. I promised myself that I would start counting calories. I have begun today. I worked out, I had a good breakfast and lunch. I just had 150 calories worth of cookies. I'm kicking myself. I suppose I have the all or nothing notion.

My point?? I guess I would like to hear what everyone else's experience has been. Granted, I know the more healthy selections I make, the better but can I lose if I do have some treats? As long as I stay in my calorie limits? Which by the way is 1400-1600.

Any advice would be appreciated.



:D :o

willbethin
10-01-2001, 02:53 PM
well where do i start?? never really did the calorie counting ,but have tried ww which i guess is almost the same thing, just counting points instead.


since april 28th i have been on no diet approach, ww points, low carbing richard simmons and body for life.

but what is for me is no more diets. i am trying to eat less of my favorite foods, less junk, but i still have it just once in a while and less of it. excercise and 8 cups of water a day.

when i am on a specific program i think about food all the time, how much points do i have left should i eat this or save calories for later.

i am just trying to eat sensibly with a little indulgence now and again. i have to stop obsessing over what i can and cant have.

i will eat what i want when i want, it is up to me , without any program telling what i have to eat and when i have to eat it.

since going on and off diets, i lost 13 lbs since april 28th, very slow i know, but i have to be patient and stick with this way of eating for the rest of my life and stop jumping on every new diet program that comes along.

this is just my opinion and what i choose to make a life style for me. good luck in what you do and hope to see you around.

i do still have 50 more lbs to lose. and the most important thing is to never give up trying to get to your goal.

livein
10-01-2001, 03:08 PM
Willbethin-
I had read a book not to long ago called, "Intuitive Eating". It is basically that exact concept. I lost 15 pounds that way. I just ate better and exercised. I felt like that wasn't good enough and I started to try WW again. I swear I have never stuck to that for more than a week. Now, I am back on the roller coaster of diets again. The comments you made about obsessing about food are so true. That is exactly what I do when I know I'm 'dieting'.

I appreciate your advice. Sometimes, it takes a stranger to tell you something you already know. I guess I should focus on whether I'm hungry or not then counting calories or points. It's so hard to believe that it could be so easy. Good luck with your weight loss.

willbethin
10-01-2001, 08:34 PM
when i first started no diet approach the first time it took me about 3 months to lose 9 lbs, so i thought it wasnt enough either, that is why i went back and forth between all those diets. i think it was just recently i went back on no diet approach. i cant keep going on and off different eating plans. i have to just try, like you said to listen to my body and take control. eat when i am hungry stop when i am full, not ready to puke, from overeating.

c'mon we can do this. we have to get strong, we are stronger than the food. i hope you find the right thing for you. in the back of my mind i keep wanting to go back on low carb or ww points because they did work for a little bit, but they are something i cannot do for a lifetime. so i cant go back on any diet again, i will be setting myself up for failure.

i have to learn to do this myself. but not overeating and no more bingeing. and i know i am gonna have good days and bad days. but i am never gonna say again, oh i ate cheese fries, i blew my diet and then turn it into a binge for the next couple of days. that kind of thinking got me where i am today.















5'3 189/176/125

feeling horrible and ashamed and not wanting to go see people i havent seen in a while because of this weight.

i am gonna enjoy life, and stop trying to think of food so much.

lets do it girls.

southern gal
10-02-2001, 09:57 PM
Hi girls!

Welcome Livein! Like you, I've done the WW thing (actually, I've done the WW thing at least 8 times that I can count) and about a million other diets. If it's out there, I've probably tried it. And I do the same thing Willbethin does - totally obsess with food anytime I'm on a "program". As a result, I'm heavier than I've ever been - and I'm still obsessing with food!:dizzy:

My current approach is definitely non-diet. I pretty much eat what I want on 3 conditions: I exercise at least 5 days a week, I drink a minimum of 8 glasses of water, and I eat at least 5 fruits or vegetables a day. I feel like if I do that, I can have a "treat" without feeling so guilty about it. (On days that I don't follow my "conditions", I usually think twice before I pig out on something!) For me, it is coming off very slowly - but I can live with this. I can't quite shake the guilt feelings when I eat something I know has absolute no nutritional value but I feel like that is from years (literally) of "dieting" strategies.

I was always a size 10 or 12 (I was never a real small girl) until I had kids. After that I gained a ton over about 5 years and have struggled with it ever since. At my age (forty...something!), I'm trying to be realistic and realizing that I may never see a size 10 again. But I do want to be in better health and not be so embarressed to be seen. My kids deserve more from me than that. I want to have the energy to keep up with them!

Okay, enough about me (boy, can you tell I've been feeling sorry for myself lately?!!!):( Girls, good luck with whatever you are doing. I really feel that our "programs" have to be something we can live with - for the rest of our lives. Living without certain food groups (isn't cake a food group?) is not going to get it.

Best wishes to you for a thinner tomorrow!

Southern Gal;)

willbethin
10-03-2001, 06:39 AM
how is everyone doing???

southern gal, so true, so true. i have been staying the same, so i sort have been not feeling so good about myself, but i dont let it get me down anymore, and i certainly dont turn it into an all out pig out session. although i got some bad news about my grahm yesterday, she is back in the hopital, i over ate but not a binge and that is a step in the right direction. and i will be back on track today.

we will all have days where we eat something we know we shouldnt, but we will eat it and go on to our healthy eating plan. we wont feel like we went off our "diets again". we just enjoyed something we were craving and let it go. we should try to not do it too often though. good plan about excercise and water.

as for cake as a food group? i think it is, it is in the same food group as my cheesefries LOL. i just have to keep taking it one day at a time.

i agree about the kids, my daughter deserves more too.

my weigh in day is tomorrow, i fear i will probably stay the same. i had some good days and some bad days. i just have to work on more good days then bad.

lets just keep on trying, for if we give up and there are days where will still will feel like giving up, we will surely fail. we have to get to our goals, to feel better about ourselves.

Marshmellow
10-03-2001, 12:36 PM
I use Diet Power and highly recommend it. It lets you know how you are doing not just in terms of calories, fat, protein and carbs, but in terms of sodium and vitamins. It is easy to use and more than one person in the family can use it on more than one computer.(with privacy if they like using passwords).

I tried using similar things on the web and they were fine (and free) but the food lists on Diet power are really comprehensive and allow you to document your receipes and add food too. Also the response time is good.

It also lets you chart your exercise and gives you calorie credits for the exercise so people who are exercising more get more calories. It also banks your spare calories every day so you can see that binge didn't realy compromise everything. It adjusts your calorie limit based on how fast or slow you are losing weight.

But you have to enter in all your food and exercise or it does not work. When I use it, I lose weight. When I don't, I gain so ...

195/130/176

willbethin
10-03-2001, 12:46 PM
thanks for the info, glad this is working for you. congrats on you weight loss so far.

livein
10-03-2001, 03:12 PM
gfgf

Well, I'm not sure what happened. The chocolate chip cookie dough and I had a battle of the wills and I didn't win. That let to a bit of a binge. I seemed to have grabbed control as of now and I'm going to try to let it go and just eat healthfully for the remainder of the day. It just kills me that I crumbled so easily.

I am so sick of battling food.:dizzy:

I'm trying to teach myself that it shouldn't be so important but I swear that is a difficult feat.

On to tomorrow....

I suppose it could be worse. I could of gone on a three day binge.


PS- I use fitday.com to journal my food and activities. It's free and I could spend a million dollars on a program but it isn't going to do me a bit of good if I'm not following my plan.

willbethin
10-04-2001, 08:04 AM
we all have days like this, if we didnt we wouldnt have to lose weight. i really dont write anything down or go on any website to track my food and excercise. i pretty much know what to eat and how much to eat.

but it is a good idea to track your food , if it helps you stay in control.

i got a hoagie for lunch yesterday, normally i would eat the whole thing, but i got extra lettuce and tomato on it and only ate half of it slowly with a knife and fork and was able to save the rest for dinner.

these little changes are gonna get me to my goal. i am going through a rough time right now with my grahm who is sick and these times are when i tend to overeat or even have a couple drinks.

i am not gonna do that anymore. i still had my hoagie , enjoyed it and didnt feel guilty about eating it.

i kinda of am lucky, i think, because i hear so many people struggling with the sweets, ice cream , cookies. that is not my problem, i never crave sweets. but i do crave alot of carb rich foods. like potates, pasta, rice, french fries and pringles.

so i am working on eating more proteins.

i hope you have a better day today. brush it off and lets stay motivated. we can do it.

southern gal
10-04-2001, 11:41 PM
Hi girls,

Willbethin, sorry to hear about your grahm. That makes for tough times all around. Hang in there and I'm sending good thoughts your way for you and your family during this time.

Livein, I know exactly what you were up against with the cookie dough. Ironically, I went through 3 cans of the @#?& stuff last week - pretty much by myself (I can't even let the kids take credit for eating too much of it). Ugh! But, I put on my walking shoes and went out the door at 6:00 for my morning stroll each day in spite of that disaster. And the scales may not have gone down, but they didn't go up either.

Marshmellow, I've tried a couple of the programs where you log everything in. They are great - as long as you have the time to put in the info. I used one during the summer when I wasn't running 16 hour days teaching school. I can't seem to find the time to do it now. (It is 11:35 p.m. in GA now, and I have just finished getting spelling papers and my newsletter ready for tomorrow - do I ever get to bed at a decent hour?!!!):?:

Oh well! Girls, stay strong. I'll catch you later.

Southern Gal


;)

willbethin
10-05-2001, 07:12 AM
how is everyone doing??

i used to bake all the time when i was younger, that is when i could eat half the batter and never gain an ounce. i really dont have the stuff in the house anymore. but that is really not fair to my daughter, she always wants to bake cookies.

i have to get stronger about it. well i ate chinese food last night , way to much. the result for the week??? i stayed the same again.

i know it is better than a gain, but it is so frustrating that i cant make that scale move. i know i just have to have more good days than bad. i can accept i will have bad days but they are getting in the way of the scales moving.

this week i will be stronger and make that scale move by next fri.

southern gal, thanks for your thoughts, i am going to see her in a couple hours, i will let you know how she is doing, it is really hard.

aphil , i hope everything is alright, and hope to hear from you soon.

aphil
10-08-2001, 01:41 PM
Hi all,
I had to get updated and read everyone's posts.
I haven't posted in about 2 weeks (BAD APHIL!), I have been so stressed out, busy, and I have completely crumbled in the overeating department. I haven't even touched the scale-too afraid of how much I have gained back.
My hair loss has slowed down a bit, but still coming out a bit more than it should. Hopefully soon it will stop. I just need to stop letting things get to me so much.
We have found a home we like, and have made an offer on it-we are waiting to hear from the seller to see if we got it. I hope so-it is really nice.
I tell ya girls-I have been battling with a lot more than cookie dough!:o
I feel so terrible, but I am a stress overeater, and I need to get things organized in my life.
Sadie-I am SO proud of you! You are going to look so good this year at the holiday events. It is so great to see family you haven't in a while after losing weight! (It is even better to see people you don't like much after losing weight-ha! ha!)
Well, I am glad to be back-it helps so much to have people that care about you and your weight struggles. People in your family can support you, but they don't always understand.
Love ya all,
Aphil

willbethin
10-08-2001, 03:08 PM
so glad to hear from you aphil. hope you can get organized with the house and your life. that has to be taken care of first, then the weight will come.

i also stress eat. my grahm has to have triple bypass surgery, i have been so worried about her, but at leat i get to see her often in the hospital. she seems fine, doesnt seem so sick to me. she is a very strong woman.

i had a horrible eating weekend. i really want to stay away from the scales too.

one day at a time, gotta get control.

hope everyone is doing good. lets not give up!!!!!:)

Marshmellow
10-08-2001, 07:58 PM
:?:
Livein - I have those days where I feel like I am battling those chocolates, etc. and other days I have so much will power it causes people to envy me. (also I find the more I tell people I don't want the cookies, the more they giggle and wave them in my face) Gee do they think the way I look is healthy?

I like recording my calories down to the creamer and then at the end of the week I usually have accumulated enough to have a treat. Just knowing that you can have something within the week's time sometimes gives you the strength to postpone the battle.

Well Canadian thanksgiving was a total blow out, but I intend to fire up Diet Power again tommorrow and start anew again (for the 4 millionth time). One day at atime and forgive yourself for yesterday.

Nancy

aphil
10-09-2001, 04:42 PM
Hi,
Willbethin-I hope your Grahm is doing okay.
Marshmellow-I know what you mean about people waving food in your face. My hubby is the ultimate diet sabateur-he prefers curvy women like Kirstie Alley and that one chubby Playboy playmate-I can't remember her name-she looks like Marilyn Monroe and married that real old rich man....
He loves curvy women that dress classy and have nice full chests.
I am thankful for that-I know he isn't looking for someone thinner than me-but it doesn't make sticking to my diet any easier.
My absolute fave candy is Hershey's chocolate, and he put a gazillion bars and kisses in my Christmas stocking last year...I could have beat him!:mad:
He loved the way I looked when I was pregnant, too. What a weirdo-:lol:
Well, I better go for now.
Talk to you soon!
Aphil

sadiegirl
10-09-2001, 05:08 PM
Hello everyone!!! I am still on plan and have lost 52lbs. so far. 34 more to goal. women men like go in trends. Curvy is now.

willbethin
10-10-2001, 09:30 AM
hi girls, i see everyone seems pretty happy.

sadie girl, 52 lbs way to go!!!!!!!!! almost to goal, woo hoo.

aphil , my grahm has to get triple bypass surgery, it is a very emotional, time, and i am trying not to turn to food. i will get on scale, fri morn. some good days and some bad eating days, but i wont give up trying to get this weight off.

be careful all you sweet eaters, halloween is coming.

livein
10-10-2001, 12:20 PM
I did not have a loss last week so I started fresh on Monday. I'm doing pretty well. I have been trying to stick to 1400 calories daily. I guess what I was wondering was should I be keeping track of my fat grams as well? Or at least watching them? I usually don't go over 40 but I'm wondering if that is to high.


Another question I had was does anyone save calories? Like for instance, if I know you knew you had a wedding coming up would you eat lighter than your daily calories on other days to make up for what you will eat? I'm not sure if that makes sense or not. I'm just wondering how to handle special occasions, which come very often between my family and friends.
Thanks


Sadie,
Great job! You are truly an inspiration.

aphil
10-10-2001, 03:07 PM
Hi,
Livein-I sortof save calories at times, but not for long periods of time. If your calorie limit is 1400-1600, stay at 1400 for about a week, and that should give you enough to have a peice of cake and a glass of champagne at a wedding along with your meal, just choose the 2 or 3 treats at the event you REALLY want, not just pig out on everything because it is there.
Livein-40 fat grams is not too high-you should never go below 20, and thqt is real low. You need some fat in your diet . People who cut their fat too low have dry looking skin and may experience hair loss.
Willbethin-I pray your grahm's surgery goes well. My grandfather has heart problems, and both my grandfathers-in-law. I know what she is going through.
Aphil

willbethin
10-11-2001, 09:54 AM
thanks aphil, i am sorry for your relatives too, isnt it horrible??

she is haveing the operation this morning at 11:00 am it is 9:49 right now. they dont know if she is strong enough to survive. if she does, she has to go to a home, which i know she will absolutly hate, she said she doesnt want to ever go to one. she will not be happy there. i am just trying to keep my mind off of it and food.

i am doing alright today with food, i will weigh in tomorrow, excercise is done. i only have one glass of water in so far today, i better get drinking.

have a great day everyone. hope you all are doing well.

willbethin
10-16-2001, 09:45 AM
how is everyone doing? i have been falling off and on, so weight is still the same. 3 weeks in a row.

my grahm, made it throught he triple bypass, is very week and on her way to rehab. i feel a little bit better about that.

well, once again , although i do still agree with doin it the old fashioned way, right now i need a little more structure to my eating plans.

i am starting somersizing. i did try this before, but didnt even give it a week. so i am making it my goal to just get through the first week without a cheat.

she doesnt count portions, i need to eat till i am full. without feeling guilty about it.

well that is what i am doing now.

hope everyone is doing well.

aphil
10-16-2001, 11:24 AM
Hi,
Willbethin-I have been thinking a lot about you lately. I am glad your grahm made it through her surgery.
You have been off and on a lot lately, and going back and forth between weight watchers, BFL, and now Suzanne Somers. I don't really think it is one program or another not working for you, but maybe you are not as motivated to lose as you were when you started. I know how it is, and I tell you, it is easier to be motivated to lose, than it is to maintain for life once you reach goal weight. It is exciting to get compliments and to see the numbers drop each week, but when you are on a maintenance phase there's not as much to be excited about.
I think maybe it would help if you thought about why you decided to lose weight in the first place. Was it an emberrassing moment? A pair of your biggest pants getting too tight? A remark someone made about your weight? Write yourself a letter about how you feel about yourself and keep it in your pocket or purse. Take a picture of yourself now and put it on your fridge as a reality check.
This will help you.
The stress in my life is a big problem with my weight and I realize this. This weekend I had my dad and stepmother take the kids and I went out with my husband. I used to love to shop for clothes, and now I hate it. Nothing looks good, and I see all of the girls that look how I used to. I am only 26 years old and I look like I am 35. My husband loves me but I do not love myself. I have a lot of things I want to do again-and I am vowing to leave the stress behind and do the things I want. I want to lose weight, redecorate my house, and ride Harley's with my husband! Screw the rest of it all! :D
Willbethin-you need to find what it takes to get motivated again. I hope you do soon.
TAWANDA!!!!!!!(if you don't get this, watch Fried Green Tomatoes)
Love,
Aphil

willbethin
10-16-2001, 12:58 PM
thanks aphil, i do have a lot of things to figure out, i will do that.

sounds like you know exactly what you want, and sounds like you will do it.

you are right it is not the program i am on it is within myself to figure this out.

never saw fried green tomatos maybe i will check it out.

thanks again.

oldschool
10-17-2001, 09:06 AM
I I'm new on here and have lost 32 pounds by counting calories. I don't count carbohydrates or fat grams. I eat 2500 calories a day. I also exercise with weights 6 days a week. Bicep/Tricep/Back then Legs, then shoulders/chest and I walk everyday for at least one hour.

I find counting calories is cheaper than weight watchers and I don't have to figure out points for anything. I've also found out I don't have to eat very low calorie and have much better success.

I can't begin to tell how cool it is to find some people doing something simular to what I'm trying to do. Thanks for listening... well reading anyway. It's nice to meet all of you.

I'm married with no children

female
34
5'9
262/230/162

livein
10-17-2001, 09:33 AM
I work out 4-5 times a week. I try to eat between 1400-1500 calories. I also do heavy weights. I sometimes feel like I am not eating enough for all of the working out I do. Where did you come up with the conclusion that you should eat 2500? calories? I am tempted to up mine to 1700-1800.

oldschool
10-17-2001, 10:00 AM
I've come to that because it works for me, I've lost 32 pounds doing it this way. I burn around 500 hundred calories a day via exercise. That brings me to 2000 to 1900 hundred calories a day. A normal 153 pound woman who does no exercise needs around 2000 calories a day to maintain. My weight is falling and I'm not complaining. I work hard, I eat well and I'm losing weight. Plus I never messed up my metabolism with yo-yo dieting. Also I have a lot to lose. I expect when I hit a stall I'll drop down 100 calories or so. But that hasn't happened.

I'm very active, I play basketball, tennis a couple times a week. And I lose about a pound a week. Oh yeah, I don't speed walk (I walk normally) or workout with super heavy weights. The thing for me is being consistant. Being more active to me is way better than slashing calories to the well beloved 1200 or 1500. Slow and steady just works for me. Also it's easy for me to stick to.

People just has to do what works for them.

I use a biotrainer when I walk. If you don't know what that is checkout www.biotrainer.com to track my burned calories. Oh yeah, I also you this thing on my palm 3 www.nurticounter.com . that helps because I don't have to add, just put in the calorie amount and it adds for me. The only thing I was missing was support that lead me here. Alright I better get back to work.

5'9
262/230/162

aphil
10-17-2001, 10:24 AM
Hi oldschool,
Nice to meet you! I am glad you are doing so well!
It seems you are doing a great job with your excercise, and I am glad you are having success with your weight loss.
You are able to lose weight eating a lot of calories, and this is due to your exercise and also your current weight level. If you find you are reaching a point where the scales are not going down anymore, you may have to lower your calorie intake by a couple hundred calories. This will probably happen as you reach nearer the 200 mark.
I am glad to have a newbie to this thread to get all of us oldies motivated again! I am married with 2 children-3 and 6 months. I am artsy and like to do interior decorating, cake decorating, and sewing. I also love Harleys. I am a stay at home mom with such little ones, but I am a licensed cosmetologist and wedding coordinator.
We have some great girls on this thread-Willbethin, Southern Gal,& Sadiegirl to name a few. Willbethin and I get to post more often than the other girls.
We are glad to have you!
Love,
Aphil
:p

aphil
10-17-2001, 10:30 AM
Livein-Oldschool's weight loss at such a high calorie level is parlty due to her current weight, which is higher than yours. The higher your weight, the more calories you burn a day-so the lower your weight goes, you may have to cut a few calories to lose more.
How heavy are the weights you are using? I also weight train, and my stepfather is an exbodybuilder. This may also be contributing to your slow loss by adding muscle mass.
Aphil

livein
10-17-2001, 10:48 AM
I suppose my comment about heavy weights was misleading. I meant to say I am 'heavy' into to weights, meaning I do them often. I guess that didn't sound how I intended it to.

Anyway, I am beginnnig to think that perhaps I am not doing enough cardio. All of the classes I take at the healthclub have a lot of weights, and less cardio. I am starting to get myself on the treadmill to walk/jog. I am also going to try to commit to running with the dog at night, even if it is 20 minutes each night. I spoke with one of the instructors and she is going to lend me her heart rate monitor to help me get an idea of where I should be working. I am trying to remember that weight training is going to build muscle and therefore add weight but it's hard sometimes when the scale hardly budges.

I will admit, as far as eating goes, each week isn't perfect. I guess sticking with it is the key.

oldschool
10-17-2001, 02:19 PM
aphil hello, :)

You hit the nail on the head about why this is working for me.

Livein, I don't believe I do all that much cardio.... well yes playing basketball and tennis is fun for me and consided cardio but I do it because it's something I enjoy. (basketball with my husband, and tennis with my best bud) I believe the extra muscle tone I get from weight training in conjunction with the cardio and as aphil pointed out, my high body weight allows me to lose weight at this calorie level. You mentioned that you weight train, isn't it great to know our bodies burn calories for 24 hours after weight training? However I don't plan on ever eating below 2200 no matter how slow the weight loss becomes. I love sports, and I love food. What can I say. I don't think there are good or bad foods, just good tasting food and bad tasting food. Anyways I see that your doing great Livein, Keep up the fantastic work!


5'9
262/230/162

willbethin
10-17-2001, 02:21 PM
well i want to thank you aphil, for making me take a reality check. everytime i looked in my freezer and saw my veggie nuggets, veggie burgers, and my lowfat popcorn in snack closet, i would say what am i doing??? these healthy foods are not allowed on somersizing.

i binged for a couple of days, and i panicked, so i thought i have to do something really strict( i think i was punishing myself).

reading everyones posts, getting back to the real way to eat, i know this is where i belong.

for you newbies, take it from me, a person who has tried to leave this board, for three different programs in about a month, this is the place to be.

PATIENCE, PATIENCE PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS GUYS!!!!!!!!!!:) :) :) :)

aphil
10-17-2001, 03:13 PM
Hey all,
No problem Willbethin!!!!!!:dizzy:
Aphil

aphil
10-23-2001, 01:40 PM
Hi all,
As all of the regulars to this thread know-I have been really stressed the past few months, and have been suffering from hair loss and headaches from the stress.
I was told to up my calorie intake until the hair loss slowed down.
It has slowed, but not stopped, so I am slowly lowering my calorie intake back down-and making sure I take my vitamins.
I did not get on the scale during the time I had to eat more, and I finally did over the weekend-I had gained back all that I had lost. :mad:
I have brought my calories down slowly over the past 3 days, and I am back down 2 pounds to 198-which feels a lot better than the 200 on Saturday!
I am eating around 2000 right now, and in a couple weeks I will take it down to 1800-1900, and a bit more once I start to plateau.
I am starting the exercise back up really slowly-for now I am just doing yoga and some walking.
I feel better already-and I told my husband if my hair loss doesn't stop, at least I can be thinner and bald, instead of fat and bald!:lol:
I can't wait to hear from all of you.
Love,
Aphil

livein
10-23-2001, 01:50 PM
I went to a website called Food fit and filled out my information. It told me in order to meet my goal of 140, I should be eating 2115 calories a day. Is it possible? Not that I truly need that many calories but I'm curious as to why everyone has such different ideals, and how do we find out the real truth?

aphil
10-23-2001, 03:03 PM
Livein-
That sounds like a lot of calories to get to 140. It sounds more like maintenance calories to stay that way after you get to that way.
Peoples metabolism's are different, so it is so hard to say an exact amount for weight and height. I always start around 2000, and go down a little to see what level I can lose 1-2 pounds a week at. You should never go below 1200 though-you can slow your metabolism this way.
If you are near to 1200 and not losing, you may need to pick up your excercise a bit to speed your metabolism.
If that does not do the trick-consider your goal weight in accordance to your height and frame. My stepmother for instance is 5'11" and weighs 170 pounds-because of her height-she is a size 11 but looks very thin.
It would be unreasonable for her to want to wear a size 6-she would look sickly while someone who is 5'3 would look fine.
You have to figure out what works for you.
Your body fat level is another difference-2 women can be the same height and weight and wear a different size-depending on how fit they are and what their body type is-I always think "apples" look heavier than "pears" of the same weight because they have bulkier chests and shoulders-but apples always seem to have nicer legs with hardly any cellulite!
Hope this helps!
Aphil
200/198/150

willbethin
10-23-2001, 08:44 PM
how are you all doing???

aphil, i am very happy for you, sounds like you are really going for it, got a plan and everything. good for you.

this past week i had a couple of binge days and i gained back 2 of the 13 lbs i had lost. but i am back on track this week.

my grahm keeps going up and down with her health, one day she is fine the next she has a setback, she has a touch of pnuemonia, which at 84 and just haveing had a triple bypass is not good, she is in icu. but me being unemployed, i get to go see her alot, which makes me feel better , that i get to spend time with her.

still just trying to eat what i want, but less of it. still in the back of my mind, thinking of these stupid diets that had failed in the past. dont worry i am not going on anymore. just trying to eat healthier.

i am addicted to carbs though, so i have to just try to eat more lean protiens and veggies. nice to hear from you. keep up that positive attitude, that is what will take us to our goal, slow and steady, health comes first.

aphil
10-24-2001, 07:52 PM
Willbethin,
I am glad you are ready to stick with it again! We have to keep each other from backsliding and going back to the way we were!
I love bad carbs like pastries and candy, too-I can relate!
I still find I can eat less of it and feel satisfied if I eat it after a meal with a decent amount of protein like chicken or an egg.
I have a million things to get done, but I will post again tomorrow!
Aphil:)

willbethin
10-25-2001, 09:54 AM
how is everyone doing???

hi aphil, your are right, we cant keep backsliding. i have been eating more protiens, which has been suppressing my appetite, but now i have to learn to pick leaner protiens, with alot of protiens comes fat, bacon , hotdogs, and hamburgers.

you are also right about eating, some carbs with protiens, seems to satisfy.

lets just keep on keeping on.

my weigh in day is tomorrow, so i hope i at least lost the 2 lbs i gained last week.

sometimes with all this nutrition information, it all gets so crazy.:dizzy:

aphil
10-25-2001, 10:22 AM
Hi,
Well, at least the fatty proteins don't spike your blood sugar and make you crash and burn later-it's kindof a double edged sword-the fat in proteins if eaten in excess isn't good for your cardiovascular system, but things low in fat like a lot of carbs-spike your blood sugar and make you want more food! aaaahhhh!!! What's a fat girl to do! ;)
It's all in moderation-there is some merit to the high protein diets like Atkin's as far as blood sugar goes, but if you don't eat plenty of fruits you are missing all that fiber and cancer fighting antioxidants! Then the people on low fat diets have clear arteries, but their skin is all dry and their hair is brittle due to lack of fat! I am just going to eat a little bit of everything and say to **** with it! :lol:
Everyone knows too much of a good thing is bad-and when you vow never to eat something again-it's all you think about! Let's just try to find low calorie foods we enjoy-find new recipes to share with each other, and have that occasional small treat-but cut back a little before or after to make up for it.
Let's get our rears in gear-and hopefully a year from now they will be smaller and less wobbly!:^:
I am in a great mood today-my anniversary was this week-my birthday is next week and my stepmother took me and the kids out yesterday-and my mother in law just took the kids for 2 days so I can get some things done! yahoo! We are closing on our new house on Halloween, and everything seems to be going pretty smooth. It is 9:30 in the morning and I am just now starting to want a little breakfast-so things are okay.
I am going to use this time to myself to take a bubble bath, polish my toenails, and start taking some pictures down and in boxes to get ready to move!
Hope your weigh-in puts you back where you should be-I'm rootin' for you Willbethin!
Aphil

willbethin
10-25-2001, 11:06 AM
GREAT UPLIFTING POST, have to pick up angelina from school and i am still in my excercise clothes, so i have to go, but i will write more later.

good for you.:) :) :)

i am back, you are so right on the money about everything you said.(whats a fat girl to do) i like that. we just have to eat a little bit of everything. i am still gonna lean a little more towards the protiens, they do fill me up. here is what i had so far today:

homemade broccoli soup 1/2 cup, didnt really measure but i know it was about that, 2 slices of cheese with chickbreast in between, the lean kind of course. and 2 cups of water. that was 7:30 this morning and it is about 11:50 now and i am just starting to want lunch. i got 2 more glasses of water down and excercise is done. so ya see protien in the morning is working out best for me. on ww it is a 9 point breakfast, but i am trying not to follow any specific plan strictly.

enjoy time without kids, hope your anniversary was fun, congratulations.

hope everyone else is doing great. would like to hear from ya

aphil
10-25-2001, 01:44 PM
You do my sort of thing Willbethin-I will eat eggs for dinner and pizza for breakfast -I never set certain foods for breakfast or lunch.
Glad you are having a great day-me too!
Aphil:dizzy:

willbethin
10-25-2001, 08:19 PM
yea, i could eat anything for breakfast, never really ate breakfast food for breakfast. just another freedom we have on no diet approach, just eat what we feel like it, but we have to get a hold of how much we are eating. stop when we feel full. we can do this.

willbethin
11-05-2001, 11:05 AM
how is everyone doing, maybe some of us are falling of program or are just plain busy, for me it is both. i am still struggling to find a right eating plan that will work for me. i am truly addicted to carbs. i am trying to eat less carbs, and eat less. i havent lost any weight, but i havent gained either. i am really trying lose this weight, been on and off lately.

hope all is well. with everyone. would love to hear from you all.

aphil
11-05-2001, 03:50 PM
Hi Willbethin,
Been really busy, just closed on pour new house Thursday, and got possession this weekend. We are busy painting, doing some repair work, and picking out carpet, vinyl, etc.
I am holding steady at 197-haven't lost or gained either. I am working really hard on this house so maybe by the time we are ready to move I will be down a pound or two.
We need to remember food is not the enemy!!! Some foods are better than other, but for the most part, it is our habits and emotions that cause us to overeat. Food is associated with weddings, parties, holidays, funerals-we eat to celebrate, calm our nerves, feed our souls when we are upset-finish a granola bar here and there that our child didn't so we don't "waste it." Most of us today do not eat solely for hunger. That is the problem. We cannot go to the movies without having popcorn or jujubes- Halloween has just passed, and what started as a celebration honoring the dead turned into a candy orgey! Who decided that celebrating Jesus' birth at Christmas had to include ham and pies?!!!
Food should be enjoyed, but we let our emotions and family traditions tell us when to eat instead of our tummys!
Let's get a hold of ourselves!
We can do it!
Aphil

willbethin
11-05-2001, 05:07 PM
always love hearing from you. a couldnt agree more with everything you said. emotions, holidays you are so right. we do let them tell us to eat.good luck with the move, that can be so hectic. glad to hear you are alright, and at least we are not gaining. for the first time in a couple of weeks, i am haveing a great day, with water, excercise and eating plan. feel like i am comeing back.

aphil
11-06-2001, 10:09 AM
I am so glad you are having a great day-me, too!
My father just told me for a housewarming gift he is going to get us new living room carpet and new vinyl in the kitchen! They came over last night and we picked out the colors!
I was thinking Thanksgiving is just around the corner, and was wondering if you knew the best things to eat at this time of year.
Roasted/baked turkey is obviously better than deep fried, and white meat has a lot less fat and calories. Pumpkin pie is better than any sort ending in "cream" and the pumpkin has a lot of antioxidants. Baking thedressing/stuffing in a pan or making it on the stove is better than stuffing the turkey with it because it can't absorb the fat from the meat. Homemade gravy is one of the worst culprits, because it is made with drippings from the meat, so that would be the one thing I would definitely avoid-and light Cool Whip over real whipped cream on your pie is a better choice.
I hope you, too are doing well-and you are right-this remodeling and moving business is really hectic.
Take care,
Aphil

willbethin
11-06-2001, 10:52 AM
what a great house warming gift, that helps alot. looks like you answered you own questions about what to eat. you sure know what you are talking about. but i am afraid i cant help you with it, because this year i have a whole new attitude about the holidays.

thanksgiving is one day. not all november. so i am going to eat and enjoy, not pig out, but not worry about it so much. i need to eat what everyone else is eating or i will be miserable. just to eat a little of everything. so from now till then, be in control eat healthy, excercise, drink water, and then on that one day i will enjoy without guilt. try not to have leftovers around the day after. and get right back on the next day.

untill christmas. or christmas eve , they are both big eating and drinking days for our family. they are only days out of our lives, no need to pig out from thanksgiving till new year's eve.

if there are treats lying around, we have to have a little not pig out on them. we have to take control, instead of not having any at all. of course this is gonna be hard, but it is the only way we can eat what we want and still lose weight. we have to make the holidays enjoyable, instead of focusing on if we will blow all of our sensible eating plans, if we enjoy the holidays.

we know what to do , lets just do it.

glad you are going well too.

i dont even want to say it but i am haveing another good day, with attitude, food, excercise and water. i have to keep this up. the only thing i can tell you that i am doing this week different is, i am eating less carbs, i usually eat breakfast at 7:30, but i am waiting until 9:00 and for one meal a day is when i try to have my carbs. this is what is working right now, who knows, i am eating what i want when i want. just trying to eat less of it.

tupo_girl
11-08-2001, 01:01 AM
Hi everybody! What a nice thread here. I've been posting on the everyday excercisers for awhile but thought I'd check this one out too. My name is Pamela, tupo girl is really typo girl but I uh made a typo;). I gained 60 pounds while pregnant with my son in 2000 and really started getting my butt in gear this July. So far, I have lost 29 pounds by excercising and eating better. I try to stop eating when I'm full. At a party, I try to have the one dessert that appeals to me the most instead of trying them all. I'm trying to make November a no sweets month as much as possible so I can enjoy that pumpkin pie and 20 different kinds of Jello salads at Thanksgiving (ok, I won't try them all!). It's nice to read all of your posts and I find your attitudes very refreshing!
In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
11-08-2001, 06:39 AM
glad to see another face around here. congratulations on your weight loss, i have neve stuck to a program long enough to lose that much.

on april 28th thats my birthday. i decided no more diets, i turned 36. i was losing weight, without so much effort, just drinking water, excerciseing and eating what i wanted to just less of it.. trying to get control. it was working, but slowly, cause i wasnt starving myself. well after a while i started letting myself eat more and more cause i was getting inpatient with this process that works. since then, i had gone back to ww points, no diet approach, to low carbing and back again.

now i am back to just trying to cut down on carbs, but pretty much eating what i want when i want, just less of it. usually wiegh in on friday morn. but might start wieghing in on mon. morn, since i just got recommitted to no dieting. on mon.

i had lost 13 lbs and recently gained two of them back, so i am stopping before i gain it all back. i have 50 more lbs to lose. i am 5'3 female, highest weight 189 lost 13 i was 176 current weight 178 goal weight is 125.

it sounds like you have a great plan. keep up the good work. let us know how you are doing.

aphil
11-08-2001, 10:30 AM
Hi!
Nice to see someone new-Willbethin and I were beginning to feel deserted around here. I don't know if the others switched threads, or if they fell of the wagon!
Tupo, I am 26, and I was 200 after my daughter, who is now 3. I got down to 158 by calorie counting and exercise, and then a month later got pregnant with my son-sho is now 6 1/2 months. I weighed in at about 199 after him, so I am now trying to lose it again. I lost a few, had some health problems and had to stop cutting calories for a while, but now am able to start doing more.
Willbethin and I have been having trouble lately getting motivated enough to really get with it.
I knew I was heavy after my daughter, and what really gave me the motivation after her was when I entered her in a baby pageant and my stepfather video taped me taking her up on stage to get her trophy. I watched that tape later and cried because I saw how terrible I actually looked.
I know I am big now, but I think it is going to take another bad moment to really get me in gear again. I hate the way I look-and actually I could live with being heavier, but it is this awful flabbiness in my upper arms and inner thighs I hate the most. I have been looking at pictures of myself from last summer after I lost the weight from Jasmine, and I was exercising a lot and my thighs looked halfway decent-and I had a cute bathing suit.
It's not just the fat, either. I hate my hair, my skin tone has changed after having Raiden, nothing is right anymore!AAHHHH!!!
Tupo-please get my butt in gear!!!!!
Better go for now! Glad to have you!
Aphil

willbethin
11-08-2001, 11:52 AM
hi guys, aphil, sorry you are not getting motivated, there are so many things i hate about myself. that is why i have to change before i get into depression mode. i guess your sickness really did make your body go through a bunch of yucky changes.


but i will not have you talking so negative about yourself, even if that is how you are feeling. i want to let you in on a secret i wasnt gonna tell anyone, cause i thought i would fail again.

i have been off lately, so this is what i am doing, and i am on my fourth day of doing it. i dont know if you heard about carbohydrated addicts diet. but i started it twice before without success. the original book says to eat two meals of protiens and veggies, but you can have butter and oil too if you want. and for one meal a day you can have whatever you want. now they are saying you have to balance that one meal of veg carb and protien, but i dont. i eat a protien breakfast, i dont measure or weigh, ijust try to eat reg portions, like 3 slices of bacon instead of 6 like on atikins you tend to eat to much, and egg omlette made with 1 egg and 2 egg whites. and for lunch i usually eat what ever i want as long as it is within a one hour period. this includes sweets and maybe a cocktail or two. nothing is measered or weighed out. and for dinner, you could have proteins and veggies. nothing has to be lowfat. but like salad dressing you can have whatever you want, but one or two tablspoons with your other two meals. i know this sounds complicated if you dont have the book. there is a catch you cant eat in between meals.

this has been working this week so far, yesterday i had frenchfries for my reward meal(the one meal you can have carbs with for an hour) you can pick any meal for that, doesnt have to be lunch. i am by no means suggesting this and the weight loss is slow. but this is just an experiment i started on mon. so i will let you know if i lose anyweight on mon.

now lets get positive , you have lost weight before. you can do it again. lets get you motivated. i need to eat what i want and if that means i can have what i want once a day i have to do it this way. i can count calories which i give you so much credit for doing. i have confidence in you girl. how are you eating today?? i am babysitting so i have to jump on when i can. gotta go now. kids are going crazy. will check back with you , please dont give up. and dont stop posting, i am a little worried about you.

willbethin
11-08-2001, 01:10 PM
please ignore the program i just told you about, i am still not learning portion control on this, as i just got done my reward meal and ate entirely too much. i am very sorry , because i am supposed to be motivating you and i still dont have it all together yet. i was following the program, but i was allowed to eat all this stuff, but i eat things i dont even want cause i was allowed too.

i hope we can help each other figure this all out. i still say the only solution is everyting we want but not so much of it and everything in moderation(the old fashioned way, i also like to call it the no diet approach.) i hope i can still offer you some words of encouragement. we can help each other. i am not mad at myself or depressed, cause i am still trying.

aphil
11-08-2001, 03:58 PM
Willbethin,
Don't worry about me too much-I have a terrible self esteem when it comes to my weight and body, but there are a lot of things I do like about myself. I have a great husband, two beautiful children, and as far as myself, I can make pretty things, and I have nice teeth and small slender hands. (They are the only thing on my body that is slender-ha! ha!)
You are right, I have done it before. I will do it again, I just have to get it together. As far as the Carb Addict's diet, I have read it, as well as Atkins, Susan Powter's low-fat approach, Somersizing, Zone, .....
I find the best programs are like Weight Watchers and Richard Simmons food mover, because it lets you eat what you want like calorie counting-but limits the AMOUNT you eat. You seem like you are the same way.
For now, I am going to keep working my rear off on the new house, and try to get through Thanksgiving without eating everything in sight-I will allow myself dessert, but one thing that really looks good-not a whole plate full of every pie or pudding there!:^:
I have done pretty well today-and I haven't been gaining. I am trying to do deep breathing, and to purposely let small things like dusting furniture go longer than normal-because I am the type who stresses themselves out trying to get everything done-and end up never enjoying anything. I need to realize the world won't stop if the dishes aren't done right away! I push myself to do too much and I think that adds to my stress binges.
Well, I better get going-it is payday/Wal-Mart day in our family-ha! ha! My daughter has a Veggietales video about thankfulness and the character buys way too much at "Stuff-Mart", and Jas, being 3, thinks that is what Wal-Mart is...I must say, that is how I feel leaving there sometimes!
Take Care,
Aphil

southern gal
11-08-2001, 06:53 PM
Hi girls! I haven't been around for a while ... and yes, I fell off the wagon, (got run over by the wheel and buried under all the junk I stuffed into my body...) but I'm still working on it.

Aphil, I know exactly where you are coming from. One of my parents brought a picture she had taken last year of me handing her son an award. The flabby arms and pregnant looking belly were enough to send anyone into depression. But like you, I have so much to be thankful for - and I've brought the other on myself with my bad habits. Congrats on the new house! What fun to have something new to decorate with the holdiays coming up!

Willbethin, I've tried every diet known to mankind (I think I've told you guys before that I'm an avid reader - and I own enough self-help/diet books to stock my own bookstore). I still try every new thing that comes along but WW was the only program I was ever able to stick to for long enough to lose a significant amount of weight.

Welcome Tupo girl. I think all of us here have been in the same boat. I gained tons of weight having two kids 17 months apart - and have struggled to lose it ever since. I'm a 43 year old teacher with a top weight of 220. I lost back down to 145 at one point (on WW) and spent 4 years gaining it all back. I've lost the same 20 pounds or so several times since. I exercise at least 5 days a week and try to keep up with my calories. Fortunately, I enjoy the exercise and stick with it, but unfortunately, I like to eat and do well until I get in from school.:devil: I know what I need to do, but that is easier said than done. I'm currently at 212, after yo-yoing back and forth, and have a hard time staying motivated with the holidays coming up. Congrats to you on the 29 pound loss! Sounds like you have got it together. Hang in there and let us hear from you.

I've got to average grades (report cards go home next week) so I guess I better get to it. Glad you guys are still here and I wish you terrific, on-target days!

Southern Gal

devoted
11-08-2001, 06:59 PM
Hi Guys!

I posted here a few times in the past. I wanted to share something that happened to me and maybe it will work for you too!

Well, after losing over 60 pounds and having about 15 to go, I was getting frustrated because I did not lose even 1 pound in four months! I was doing everything right! Keeping my calories in range, exercising 4-5 times a week and weight training. In fact, I got so frustrated that I decided to try the "low carb" thing that is all the rage right now. I tried it for 2 months and didn't lose anything. Finally, I gave up on that and went back to my old fashioned way of losing weight... eating right, counting calories, etc. Well, evidently the short reprieve I had taken helped kick start my weightloss because I'm losing again... the right way! Anyway, I'm wondering if deviating from your usual plan for a couple of months and then coming back to it could actually help?? They say this works in regards to exercise, too... trying new things to keep your body guessing!

Well, hope you all have a great weekend!
Lisa;)

willbethin
11-08-2001, 07:04 PM
nice to hear from you southern girl. lets just all calm down here and get back on that wagon. let those wounds heal. i do agree that richard simmons and ww are the way to go. we do know what to do, and it is easier said than done. lets try to post more often, and maybe we can get motivated again. i know we can get busy, but we all know we feel better cause we have each other.

aphil , i am impressed, i am so happy to hear you say those good qualitys you have, i dont even have that many i like about myself. that is great, that veggie tales sounds cute. i have never been in a wal mart.

are we all ready??? lets get going, full speed ahead!!!!!!! lets get back to healthy eating.

souther girl, i too dont mind excerciseing it is the eating i cant commit to.:?:

hi devoted , we must have been posting at the same time, i just saw you post, thanks for sharing, and i am glad you are losing again. i guess i might try that, when i starting losing weight and get stalled, thanks for the tip. nice to hear from you. and again congrats.;)

tupo_girl
11-09-2001, 02:36 AM
I'm blessed because I have a live in trainer of sorts : my dad. He's very much into excercise and eating well and we keep each other in check. That really helps me out a lot. I don't have too much to say, but with support, we can do this!
In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
11-09-2001, 06:39 AM
hey tupo, that is great, especially being your dad, that is great quality time to spend together. nice to have someone right there.


well, just pick a day and say no more, feeling better about myself has got to be better than cheesefries. i hear this is how it happens ya know, just say no. and no turning back.

aphil
11-11-2001, 12:11 AM
Hi all,
Southern Gal, I am glad you're back!
Someday if I am brave enough, I will have to attach the picture of me at the pageant with my daughter-she looks great-I, on the other hand....
Talk to you soon,
Aphil

southern gal
11-11-2001, 09:37 PM
Hi everyone! Hope you have had a good weekend and everyone is rested and ready for the week to come.

Aphil, I know exactly where you are coming from on that picture. I burned the one the parent at school gave me ... too bad, her child was cute in it ...

Not a good week. I did my weigh in tonight and gained 3 pounds! Ugh! I am hoping that is just water weight (isn't that always my excuse?) but of course I know that the leftover Halloween candy and the meals we ate out this week did not help. The only good thing I can say is that I did all the exercise I set out to do.

Oh well, maybe next week will be better. I can only hope - there are just too many food oriented things this time of year ... and what can I say? I'm weak ... :dizzy:

Southern Gal

willbethin
11-12-2001, 07:00 AM
i am still struggling,good days and bad days, havent gained any but havent lost either.

southern gal, sorry you gained, that can be frustrating, i am weak too, my husband always wants to go the chinese buffet on sunday nights, i keep telling him to stop doing that, he decides at the last minute after i have had a good day of eating, i guess i should try to plan it in my eating plans on sun.

we will do better this week, glad you did you excercises, i slacked a little in that department, only 3 days this week, i usually try to do 4 or 5.

aphil
11-12-2001, 09:42 AM
Hi all,
done pretty well eating yesterday. Not gaining, not losing right now.
I was so mad this weekend-the lady we bought the house from had the bathroom painted pink, with bright blue, purple, and fuschia splash paint on the walls. It took me 2 coats of KILZ, and 4 coats of paint to cover it all up! I spent all day on it! She left all her leftover house paint in the garage that she used (like we wanted to keep those colors) and my husband had to keep me from taking it all over to her new house and doing my own splash paint!:o
I swear, this was the laziest woman alive-the house is only 8 years old, and I swear, she didn't clean the stove hood or mop the floor the whole time she was there! It is a shame to have such a nice house and not take care of it. Speaking of that-did anyone see Montel Friday? They had people with the messiest houses-and they gave the winner maid service and came in and cleaned her house and put in all kinds of organizers! Nothing like rewarding someone for being so nasty!:mad:
Have a good day girls!
Aphil

willbethin
11-12-2001, 10:31 AM
you are funny aphil:lol: wow you sound like you have got your hands full. you will be busy for awhile. keeping busy means not eating right??? no i didnt see montel, but you are right, maid service, cause you were too lazy to clean house???? not right.

me and angelina were invited my angelina friends to have a playdate at mcdonalds today for lunch, ya see i dont drive so anytime anyone invites us to go somewhere, for angelina i go.

so i already know i have to work small fries and cheesburger without the bun in my eating plans today.

i wasnt so lucky last night, hubby decided at the last minute to go to the chinese buffet for dinner last night, i cant just eat healthy foods there, when the other bad foods are right in front of me.

i will just have to make up for it during the week. hope everyone has a healthy day.

willbethin
11-13-2001, 09:58 AM
i am counting my ww points,i woke up with a great attutude this morning and ready to commit. i did this before,and lost 17 lbs in one month, without a binge without cheating and i even counted points for my weekend cocktails, now that is commitment. i just got lazy and didnt feel like counting points, didnt feel like watching everything that went in my mouth. well when you are trying to get healthy, there is no room for lazines, or i dont feel like doing this today. i did this before eating anything i wanted, sometimes fast food, treats, cocktails, carbs or protieins, i think it is just your attitude and willingness to commit.

i am not watching what i eat so much as to trying to stay within my 27 points. i had the most satisfying breakfast this morning, egg, bacon and tator tots=7 points, so i have 20 points left for the day. plenty of food. i can do this.

hope everyone is doing good.

tupo_girl
11-14-2001, 02:18 AM
well, I think we may be pregnant again! Got a faint positive line today and I certainly *feel* pregnant. I am calling the doctor tomorrow. I'm going to try to eat really healthy this time so I don't gain 60 pounds again!

Take one meal at a time, one day at a time. Just think: if you eat one healthy meal, then you can eat another. If you can do one healthy day, you can do another!! You can do it!
In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
11-14-2001, 07:25 AM
congratulations!!!!!! you are right, i once did ww points for one month straigt. last march, no binges and no cheating. if i could do it then why cant i stick to healthy eating now?? we can. yea, pregnancy weight is scary, you will be alright, cause you know what you did before and dont want to repeat it again, and dont worry so much about the weight, be happy and enjoy your pregnancy, if you are pregnant, let us know for sure.

me?? i am doing alright, i am finally gonna listen to everyone and know that planning will help me lose weight. my weigh ins are usually friday morn.

aphil
11-14-2001, 07:26 PM
HI tupo,
Congratulations! I knew Iwas pregnant before I even took a test with my daughter and had my first check up when I was only at 5 weeks, but with my son, I only tok a test because I was late-never had any morning sickness or tiredness-I had to go to the doctor to make sure I was pregnant, because I didn't feel like it!
I gained 60 with my daughter, and 50 with my son-that really wasn't bad for me because I was a gestational diabetic and had large babies, but it is so hard to lose it afterward! I know how you feel! :) It is definitely worth it!
I hope you will stay with us during your pregnancy and maybe with healthier eating choices and excercise, you will not gain as much. Congrats again!
I am SO sore! I worked painting and getting the floors ready for the carpet/vinyl installer yesterday for 18 hours! I was there another 7 today! I am definitley getting some physical activity in, and drinking water, so that is a plus!
Willebthin-glad you are having a good day-I am glad you are watching your points again! Do you think points are easier to remember than writing down calories? I am not a member of Weight Watchers, so I imagine I would have to pay to get the info about the system. It is equal to calories, but seems easier to do in your head. Have you checked out the fast food part of this site that has the points for fast food?
Better go,
Aphil

willbethin
11-14-2001, 08:23 PM
aphil, i get tired just reading how much you are doing on that house, you are burning those calories. i am having another good day, low carbs and not hungry. yes i copied out the sheets that has points for fast food, thanks. i am hanging in there. hope you all are too.

tupo_girl
11-15-2001, 12:36 AM
I miscarried today. It's been weird but I know God works things out for good and I trust Him. I was excited but I am really trying to enjoy the time with my son. What an amazing gift all humans are. I'm finally feeling better. I did comfort eat today but I'm in my 11's so I will behave tomorrow. Not quite sure where to go from here, but one day at a time.


Aphil: how big were your kids? Mine was 10 pounds, 7 oz and 24 inches long and I didn't have gestational diabetes!

In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
11-15-2001, 07:08 AM
i am really sorry to hear about your loss, i had one to, before i had my one and only child now, i was really upset, cause i waited so long to start having babies, ya know do everything right, meet guy, get married get a house enjoy my marriage ,just the two of us for a whil, then have kids, that ended up to be, when was 30. glad you are feeling better. i want to have another but my husband doesnt, i am upset about that.

good for you not turning to food. i think this was the only time i didnt turn to food either. it is to heart breaking.

geez, i feel for you girls, my angelina was only 5 lb 12 oz and 18 in.long.

i will be back to let you know if i can have two great days in a row.

hope everyone is well.

aphil
11-15-2001, 12:01 PM
Hi all,
Tupo-I am so sorry for the loss. I am thankful, however, that it happened now, and not after you became more attached and started preparing for another baby.
To answer your question, my daughter was 10 pounds 4 ounces, 23 inches long-and to make it worse, her head was 15 1/2 inches-average is 13 1/2. My son was taken prematurely by induction, and he was 9 pounds 4 ounces, and his head was also 15 inches. If I would have had him around my due date, the doc estimated he would be at 11 pounds! OW!!!!:o
I cannot have any more children for health reasons,my gestational diabetes was worse with my son, and another might throw me into having diabetes the rest of my life. I will probably get it when I am older, but the later the better.
Just spend this extra time you are given with your child you have, and you are right to trust God. My mother lost a baby at 7 months pregnant, and they found the baby had severe birth defects. It could be many reasons why this happened-or maybe God knew your son needed you to himself right now. Take care of yourself, you have friends here.;)
Willbethin, glad you are having a good day-and yes, I am wore out from the house. We are moving in over the weekend, and then I will be SO glad!
Aphil

willbethin
11-15-2001, 07:37 PM
alright aphil, almost time to relax, almost home, yea. well i did do good all day until dinner, i over ate a little at dinner, but it is pms and could have done alot worse, but at least it wasnt a binge. i feel i am still in control.

tupo , how are you???

hang tough girls. tomorrow is my weigh in, but i am not expecting a loss, just had a so so week, good bad good good bad, ya know up and down, but no bad binges.

tupo_girl
11-16-2001, 01:11 AM
I'm doing ok today. It's hitting home a little bit harder and I'm crying more but that is ok. While I'm not eating a ton, I am turning to 'comfort' foods although not intentionally. I was at one of my best friend's house today (she's also like a mom to me) and she just happened to give me sugar free Jello, chicken noodle soup, crackers and some soda. The same things that my mom always made me when I was sick! It was very comforting. We watched a Christmas movie. Then tonight, my sister came over and started talking about Ben and Jerry's low fat frozen yogurt and I talked her into going and getting a pint which she, my husband and I all shared. Someone at hubby's work had given him a little tiny stuffed teddy bear for the new baby before we lost it and he brought it home today. I hold it and cry and it makes me feel better to have something tangible in my hands. I'm sorry to go on so long! I don't really know what to do except flow with it which kind of sucks but I know God is gracious and will take care of us. Thank you for your love.
In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
11-16-2001, 07:30 AM
glad you are still posting, that might help too. sorry you are feeling blue, but, you are allowed to and take as long as you want to feel better. it is not gonna happen overnight. the foods you have been eating sound good, not overdoing it good for you. and it is nice to have all those caring people around you to get you through this.


i am doing good, altoug i stayed the same again, i know i am on my way, this is the third day, i am on my eating plan and i will make this work. next friday, i will be under 178 guaranteed!!!!!!!

aphil
11-16-2001, 09:22 AM
Hi girls,
Willbethin-glad you are doing better, and realizing what you are doing good and bad. I hope your weigh-in next week is good.
Tupo-I know it helps to have something tangible to hold, and I am glad you have good friends who are supporting you. You will feel better soon. Hang in there.
Well, we are starting the move tonight-I have a couple of paint spots to touch up where the installer rubbed up against a tacky wall, and then we are putting the baseboards back in those rooms, and then the appliances. I am also going to start bringing in the kids' things. We will move all of our stuff and the furniture tommorrow.
I am so proud of the painting I did on my kids' rooms! I always wanted a fantasy bedroom when I was a kid, so that's what I did for them. My son's is yellow, and I stenciled blue and light green stars all over the walls, and have border that has stars and moons all over it, and a switchplate shaped like a star. I made crib bedding and a valance out of old fashioned striped ticking material like they used to make pillows and feather beds out of-the valance is tab top, and I changed the pattern, so they don't fasten with buttons, but with bib overall buckles. It is adorable.
Jasmine's room I painted like a castle tower-the top of the wall is sky blue with painted clouds, and the rest is gray with light gray cobblestones painted on it. I just ordered her a bed skirt and pillows that have little kings and queens on them, and I am going to make velvety castle type curtains when we get in and settled. She loves it!
It has been a real pain to do, but it is very satisfying for me to have done it for them. I will have to take pics and attach them so you can see.
I haven't been eating the greatest, but I sure have goten a lot of exercise doing all of this work! I am so sore, I will be glad when it is all over.
Have a good one girls!
Aphil

willbethin
11-16-2001, 09:33 AM
ahil, you are sooooo creative, can you be my mom????LOL. i dont have a creative bone in my body and my daughter does, she would love for me to do that stuff. you are so busy. the food will come later, sounds like you dont have much time to think about what you are eating, just concentrate on not gaining right now , till you have more time to yourself. it will all come together. the rooms sound fabulous. i would love to see pics.

aphil
11-19-2001, 06:58 PM
Hi Ladies!
Well, we are moved in the house-it's not pretty, but we are here! :)
I have so much to do with putting pictures up and arranging things-I will be so glad when it is all done with.
Hope everyone is doing okay.
Aphil

willbethin
11-20-2001, 09:27 AM
aphil, glad you are in your house, now the real work begins LOL.i have been experimenting with low carb foods and i do find that i can stay fuller longer when i eat protiens. so i am doing good, not overeating, just trying to learn what works for me. i will let you know if i lose this friday, or i might weigh in on sat, just this week. give myself some slack for the day after thanksgiving, not that i plan on pigging out, but i do intend to enjoy myself and not obsess about food that day. or any day. hope everyone is doing well.

aphil
11-20-2001, 04:40 PM
Hi all,
Ladies-How do you help a friend who is making a huge mistake and asks you what you think, then won't listen?
An old friend called me and told me all about this guy she started dating-how sweet, sincere, wonderful.......blah, blah, blah,....well I recognized the name as someone I dated before I met my husband-and he is still using the same lines and moves as he was 7 years ago! She thinks he is so great, and asked me what i thought-and I told her to watch out! He has dated all the women in our county, and is moving on to others now I guess! This girl falls for every man who will treat her bad, and won't have anything to do with someone who truly likes her....Oh well...
Willbethin, you are right-the work has truly begun! I am wading in everything trying to get things put away!
Hope everyone is doing well!
Aphil

willbethin
11-21-2001, 12:05 PM
hello everyone., what is everyone up to?

aphil, i am not really good at giving advice, but i think you did your part by already expressing your feelings about the situation. but i know it is hard to sit back and watch when someone is making a mistake. and it is hard to support that. you dont have to agree with your friend, but if you dont want to fight with her, i wouldnt say too much more about him. i would just tell her, you know how i feel about this guy and if you want to continue to see him, i cant support this, and would rather not talk about it.

i overate yesterday, but i know why, and will try to avoid it in the future.

lets just enjoy thanksgiving tomorrow and not think too much about how much we are eating, let just try to control a little.

aphil
11-21-2001, 02:10 PM
Hi,
Hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving tomorrow!
Aphil

kd580
11-24-2001, 12:07 PM
hi guys,
im very bummed. its taken me 8 days to lose 1/2 pound and thats after counting every last calorie. the good news is i think i finally found the reason i cant lose. it looks like ive got wts. ive been taking my temp for almost a month& it is typically 96. ive got alot of the symptoms of hypothyroid too. i thought i had that last year.

im tired of feeling lousy from it. im calling my doc on mon. for an appt so i can try to convince her ive got wts cuz the 1 doc that treats wts near me doesnt take my ins.

tupo_girl
11-24-2001, 01:15 PM
Sorry I haven't been around lately! My dad started messing around with the computer and pretty much killed it. We've been using our old Mac but it's too slow to really get much done on it. We're in Iowa at my mother in law's! It's just been one thing after another but at least I'm finding the humour in everything. It all came to a head yesterday when ds broke out in an allergic rash all over his face. I think we're going to go home tonight!! I lost 3 pounds this week but I'm not really sure how I did that. I guess I've only been eating when I'm hungry and stopping when I'm full. There really weren't a whole lot of foods I was interested in on Thanksgiving (being a former East Coaster, some of these Midwest foods are still a little odd to me!!) so I guess that was good. I can't belive that if I lose 2 more pounds for next week I will be in the 150's! It feels very surreal (I was 196 when I started losing weight).

Aphil: glad to hear you're in your new house! The kids rooms sound absolutely fabulous!!!

I hope everyone else has a good weekend! God bless.
In Christ,
Pamela

kd580
11-24-2001, 05:46 PM
pam,

congrats on your loss! i hope everything works out.:)

willbethin
11-24-2001, 09:14 PM
hi everybody. congrats on the weightloss pam that is awesome. you are doing great.

aphil, busy with the house huh???

kd580 sorry if i sound stupid , but what is wts. hope you are alright. patience.

i have been just doing ok. so i keep staying at the same weight, i have to do better.

kd580
11-24-2001, 10:44 PM
hi willbethin,

dont sweat it. most people dont know bout wts(wilsons thyroid syndrome is similar to hypothyroid in its symptoms, but can not be detected in blood tests. It appears that Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome is due to the thyroid system getting bogged down, leaving the metabolism maladaptively slow.

Every other known thyroid condition has to do with glands and how well they supply thyroid hormones to the blood stream. But WTS has to do with the tissues and how well they process thyroid hormones supplied by the blood stream.


the only way to know is to monitor your temperature on a daily basis, mine is about 96 on average instead of 99 which is why i cant lose weight& i need a doc appt asap so i can convince her i have this and get on t3.

MrsJim
11-25-2001, 12:11 AM
You might want to read this...from the American Thyroid Association website:

http://www.thyroid.org/publications/statements/99_11_16_wilsons.html

And another from Quackwatch: http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/News/wilson.html

Basically, there is no current scientific basis for "Wilson's Syndrome". In fact, taking T3 can be not only useless but downright dangerous, which along with the non-existence of WTS is probably why your medical insurance won't cover it.

Heres an article from http://www.thyroid.org/publications/signal/signalv41.pdf :

T3 Toxicity Alert

In March, three Atlanta area women were hospitalized with thyrotoxic crises after taking T3 capsules compounded at a local pharmacy. Two of the patients were delirious and required ventilatory support for more than a week. All three women were being treated for "Wilson's Syndrome". Many more patients in Metro Atlanta and eastern Alabama - some with no evidence of underlying thyroid disease - have been prescribed compounded T3, and some have been found to have thyrotoxic serum T3 levels. The Georgia Drugs and Narcotics Agency is investigating...

Let me stress that I am not trying to rain on your parade here - the Internet is a wonderful place to find information but at the same time there are a lot of not-so-truthful places out there - I urge you to read the articles, talk to your regular doctor and find out the facts. The fact is, normal human body temp fluctuates...it doesn't always stay at 98.6 - sometimes it's a couple of degrees lower, sometimes a degree or two higher...

If you feel you have a thyroid problem, you may want to have your doctor do a biopsy, thyroid scan or ultrasound (I'm not a doctor but had a thyroid test done years ago when trying to figure out why I was so fat - BTW, my thyroid tested out normal!)

Take care!

willbethin
11-25-2001, 10:50 AM
hi kd580, how is it going, hope you are all right, let me know what doc says.

mrs jim is full of information, i hope you check out what she has to say.

like i said i never heard of it so i cant give my input, but if you feel something is wrong, you should go to doctors.

good luck.

kd580
11-25-2001, 03:56 PM
mrs. jim,

thanks for the info:)

willbethin- thank you for your concern:) will keep ya posted.

aphil
11-25-2001, 04:04 PM
what you are wearing, if you Hi all,
Kid580-I have also had thyroid tests done-not because I thought it was contributing to my weight, but for my hair falling out, and other symptoms. I was normal in that area also. Mrs. Jim is right-there are a lot of things that can affect your body temp besides thyroid-activity,clothing,diet-it is so hard to get something by that means of checking.
You never said how many calories you are eating, or what activity you do-that could mean a lot.
Willbethin and Tupo-I have been so busy-sorry I didn't check in sooner. The house is coming together-the weight will soon.
Take care,
Aphil

kd580
11-25-2001, 04:14 PM
aphil,

thanks. i try 2 eat 1500 cals. i havent exercised in a while, since summer.

willbethin
11-25-2001, 04:44 PM
hi everyone, i had a minor setback today mom in law stopped by with a cheesecake and cocktails, it is putting christamas light up day and we had some company and good cheer. i am trying to not go overboard, but know i could have had better control.

the excercise really does help. i have always excercised, but i kept eating like i always did, soon as i cut down on eating the weight came off. so i know i can excercise 4 days a week for 30 min and if i just cut back on eating and take control the weight will come off.

although i have never had a medical condition thank god, i have talked to people that have, and i dont know if i could do it, not only having to deal with a weight problem but medical issue to, i give those people lots of credit.

lets all hang in there and get to our goal(to get healthier, besides losing weight.)

aphil
11-26-2001, 11:00 AM
Hi all,
Having a good morning-am back on track! Willbethin. let's do this and look good this summer!
kd580-your calorie level looks okay-do not go any lower than that. A low calorie diet for a long time can slow the metabolism, so you need to exercise to speed it back up and burn calories. It sounds like you body is in conservation mode-and exercise will bring it back up. When you lose weight without excercise, you still look flabby, not toned and fit-just the same but smaller.
Try walking, or it you are short on time, Denise Austin has Hit the Spot or Shortcuts videos to tone your body in shorter amounts of time each day. You will also feel much better.
Let's do this girls!
Aphil

kd580
11-26-2001, 12:31 PM
thanks APhil,

i do exercise but not in the cild as i am very limited to begin with because i have cerebral palsy& cant do much but swim.

aphil
11-26-2001, 07:42 PM
Hi ladies,
It has been a good day-have stayed under my calorie limit-I will have a sugar free hot cocoa for a bedtime snack.
kd580-do you do any sort of physical therapy? If you do, that would also count towards your excercise. There are also specialty excercise videos for those who are disabled, are in wheelchairs, and the elderly. Hit excercise videos on your search engine on the computer, and go to a few excercise video sales sites. They will be under specialty or special needs type sections. I hope that helps. Any activity will help your muscles in your situation. Small things like doing ankle circles will help you-it is very important you keep moving, even if it is not much.
Willbethin-how was your day? Hope you have excercised and eaten well.
Tupo-how are you doing sweetie? I know you have had a rough time lately.
We can do this-let's look great this summer.
Aphil

kd580
11-26-2001, 09:38 PM
thanks aphil,

ill check it oyt. i dont have pt. today was very very bad for me.

willbethin
11-27-2001, 11:13 AM
hello everyone, how are we doing???

ahil you are sounding great, so glad you are back on track. well i for one am not going to be at this weight come summer time. i go to the beach alot and every year i say i am not looking like this again. well this is the year i mean it.

i am doing good, but i am starting to obsess about food again. i just have to keep it simple, eat when i am hungry and stop when full. i can do it. we all will do it.

how is the house coming??

we are back and we are serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kd580
11-27-2001, 01:20 PM
willbethin,

good for you!!! yesterday very bad day.

willbethin
11-27-2001, 01:54 PM
kd580, did you make doc appt. about wts?? sorry you had a bad day yesterday. i was doing so well today, until i just ate a big piece of leftover cheese cake with whipped cream.:mad: i told my hubby to take it to the boys at work, but he didnt. well i have to not turn this into a binge, i will try to eat healthy the rest of the day. hope you are having a better day today.

kd580
11-27-2001, 03:47 PM
willbethin,

thanks for your concern. i didnt call the doc because of what mrs. jim thanfully drew my attention to. there had been an article about 3 women who had taken t3 for WTS and ended up hospitalized for delirium so i dont know if WTS is real:)

im sorry for your setback. i know how you feel , thats how my day started yesterday.

willbethin
11-27-2001, 08:05 PM
so kd580 whats the next step, are you not feeling well? do you think it could be something else? i could have had a better day, i could be stronger.

hope everyone had a good day.

kd580
11-27-2001, 08:47 PM
Willbethin,

Thanks.... to be honest, im not sure. i started kelp today 2x a day. im gonna wait&see if that hlps:) doing ok, exercised a little today too.

willbethin
11-27-2001, 09:15 PM
good for you, i hope it helps. ok what is kelps??:?:

kd580
11-27-2001, 10:41 PM
THANX, ME TOO. KELP IS SEAWEED I THINK.

willbethin
11-28-2001, 07:25 AM
hello all, how are we doing??? i always wake up with a great , i am gonna have a good eating day today, i hope i can . have parent teacher conference with my daughter angelina , she is almost 6 yrs old. this will be my first one, but nothing to worry about she is a great kid.

lets have a great day.:)

tupo_girl
11-29-2001, 10:22 PM
It's been a rough couple of weeks, but I know that God is teaching me perserverance and through that comes maturity which is something I could always use more! I've been a little indulgent in some light chocolate ice cream but I'm finding that if I go with my natural appetite, I only eat abou 1600-1700 calories a day and that's not too bad! Emmett continues to grow and be a big busy boy. I did make almost all of my Christmas cards the other night!! Haha. I hope everyone has a great weekend.
In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
12-05-2001, 08:13 AM
i have had sooooo much trouble getting back on this website, since it shut down. it wouldnt give me my password, it would only give me my name. then i tried to re register and it said there was already someone with the same email address, i thought there would be no way for me to come back here.

well thats done. how is everyone doing? i have had a set back, i was fighting with hubby and it is pms week and i have been carb binging. i know, excuses , excuses.

i am having a good day so far today and hopefully i will lose the 4 lbs i gained. will tell ya on sat morn.

kd580
12-05-2001, 12:36 PM
willbethin,

yr not alone. ive had a few binges myself lately.

willbethin
12-05-2001, 02:55 PM
well i did it again today, this is the 3rd day, it has to end. it is so scary to feel so out of control. i have to take back control.:(

kd580
12-05-2001, 03:13 PM
i know how you feel. its very very hard, but you can do it!

willbethin
12-05-2001, 03:40 PM
why cant i remember this feeling when i overeat?? i am going food shopping soon, i am coming home with alot of healthy stuff.

willbethin
12-05-2001, 03:44 PM
i am online right now, how come my online, sign is not lit up??

kd580
12-05-2001, 04:18 PM
willbethin,

its because we love food to much to remember the bloating.lol.

willbethin
12-05-2001, 08:09 PM
thanks for the encouraging words, i just have to try it again tomorrow.

kd580
12-05-2001, 08:23 PM
no problem. you can do it!!

aphil
12-07-2001, 07:00 AM
Hi all,
I have been so busy with the house and Christmas shopping and all!
I am doing well, staying on track, and have lost 2 pounds this week of the weight I had gained back when I was sick! I had gotten up to 202 when I was brave enough to weigh myself, and I am now back at 200. I have been getting up with my husband when he is getting ready for work to exercise uninterrupted while the kids are still asleep.
I am so glad to be back on track!;)
I am doing really well-and have found a great Holiday treat without many calories. They have so many flavors of candy canes out, and they only have 70-80 calories each, and I can suck on one for an hour while I watch the tv in the evening. It really keeps me out of the cookies and things while not making me feel like I am missing out!
Well ladies, I'd like to hear how you are doing.
Take care,
Aphil

tupo_girl
12-07-2001, 07:26 AM
I don't know. I've been feeling very apathetic about this whole weight loss thing this week. I nearly cry every time I see a pregnant woman (they seem to be following me!) and I have a couple of friends who are pregnant and know that I have to keep what I'm feeling inside. Very difficult. I do seem to be PMSing and all I want is salt! I weighed in with a 1 pound gain today. Could be muscle though. My legs feel hard as rocks!! I probably would have done a lot better this week if I wasn't constantly hurting myself accidentally. Hopefully next week will be better!
In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
12-07-2001, 07:57 AM
hello, aphil, glad to hear you are back on track, sounds like you are busy, busy, busy. congrats on the loss, pretty soon, you will be out of the 200's and good for you for excercising!!!:)

sorry, you are feeling a little down, i havent been in a great mood either, last sat, i had a 4 lb gain and this week i am pmsing. i cant get back into the swing of things. trying again today.

aphil
12-07-2001, 09:25 AM
Pamela,
Why do you feel that you have to keep what you are feeling inside? That is the worst way to deal with things, and it is asking for overeating episodes.
I suggest you talk to someone-a friend, someone from church, a counselor. Like they always say-it's not what you're eating, it's what's eating you.
I guarantee your pregnant friends would be glad to break the ice and talk with you. It probably makes them feel even more uncomfortable that you are not talking about your feelings.
For all of us, I suggest we write down our feelings each day in a journal-as well as what we are eating/calories/points. You will start to see a connection between food and our mood.
PMS can no longer be used as an excuse here girls...I am scheduled to start here in a couple days, and I am doing well. I have been crabby, but not bingeing. The key is substitution. If that salt craving is kicking in-have a few fat free pretzels, if chocolate is the weakness-suck on a Hershey Kiss and not an entire candy bar.
We need to stop making excuses for our habits. My biggie was no time to excercise due to the kids-I just have to get up earlier to do it. All overweight women have excuses why we are that way.
Our husbands,kids,bosses,mothers-in-law,bills,losses,and periods do not put the food in our mouths for us.
I am here giving us all the swift kick we need right now. This used to be the most supportive thread on the forum-I want it to be again. We are beautiful, intelligent, winners, and losers!!!! We need to think of ourselves this way and get on track.
Celebrate what you have right now. See your body for the wonderful things it does for you each day, not just for your cellulite or flabby thighs.
Give thanks for what you have, and always know when it is bad it could always be worse, much much worse.
Hang in there girls.
Aphil

kd580
12-07-2001, 10:31 AM
hi guys,

im not doing well either, but we all can do this! i just wish i could make sense of this metabolism of mine! its so screwy. when i do what i supposed to, i either gain or not lose. when i go nuts eating all the junk food i can find i either dont lose, but dont gain, or gain almost nothing& sometimes even get a small loss. go figure! i am still mconvined though that my low body temp is connected to my inability to lose.

Aphil, wtg! youre doing great!!

pam- i know what you are feeling. i never went through that myself, but i watched my sister go through that pain for 15 yrs!! she couldnt get prego either, and now after 15 yrs of the pain youre feeling, shes 1 moonth away from giving birth to twins! so you see, youre not alone& if you give it time(and i mean time!) it may happen.

aphil
12-07-2001, 11:33 AM
kd-I really want to help you. Would you mind giving me a sample of what you eat in a day so I can analyze it a bit? Also-what is your current height and weight? Are you in your 20's,30's,...
What medications are you on?
It is very important even though we are calorie counting that we watch what we eat-if we are eating 1500 calories each day, but it is all Twinkies or bread-we are not doing our bodies any favors. Your body temperature is not really that low-it could be low due to your lack of inactivity due to your cerebral palsy.
Sometimes if we abuse our bodies too much by cutting out way too much calories for too long, or are not eating enough protein or vitamins-our body says enough is enough and will hold onto weight to survive. Have you done any crash diets? Juice fasts, Very low calories, using all of your calories on breads and carbohydrates and not enough protein?
Let me know your situation a bit better.
I am sure Mrs. J would agree.
Aphil

kd580
12-07-2001, 12:38 PM
thanks aphil. i post my menus on the share food diary thread in the buddy forum.

im not on any meds, no crash dieting. my temp not to due 2 inactivity im not inactive and its not from cp it never was that low before and i got all the hypo sysymptoms.

livein
12-07-2001, 12:52 PM
Well, I am back and forth from trying Weight Watchers to couting calories to a full blown binges. I just wonder if one day I will win this mental game. I don't binge because I'm hungry. I don't really know why I do it. I started Monday on a good note. I was on points until about an hour ago and then for some unknown reason I binged. I went back over my journals for the week and I was eating between 1100-1200 calories a day. (Yes, I know if I ate more vegetables they are free, I could have more) The fact of the matter is no matter how many calories I allow myself, I can handle it and then one day I just decide I'm going to eat 3 candy bars and some pizza and whatever else. Am I crazy? Does anyone suppose I need professional help? I work out often, I try to incorporate as many fruits and vegetables into my diet as possible, but I can not/will not follow any program. What gives?
Any advice for a really, really tired soul?:spin: :spin:

willbethin
12-07-2001, 01:33 PM
livein, i am going through the exact thing right now, i mean exactly what you are going through. i am really trying to do ww points, but i keep spending it on all the wrong foods, and have now been binging. i have got to get some control!!!!!!!!:mad:

i really cant figure out exactly why i am doing it , and that is the worst part.

aphil, is right!! thanks for the reality check. i will try harder, but i am afraid i had another bad eating day today, so i am doing it tomorrow.

my weigh in day is always on sat. anyway.

i hated paying money for going to ww meanings but i was really losing weight when i went. then my girlfriend couldnt go anymore and she was my ride. i dont drive, and wish i could go again. but for now i just have to count these points and eat more protiens and fruits. it is scary feeling this out of control and uncomfortable.


lets start supporting each other, and get back on track, starting tomorrow, are ya with me?????????????????

tupo_girl
12-07-2001, 03:31 PM
I'm feeling better. I reweighed (with all my clothes off) and it was 161. You're right I shouldn't be using PMS as an excuse. I'm trying to eat half portions of what I'm craving and I threw out some candy this morning. I did my video this morning too.
KD : thank you for your notes! I had a miscarriage last month (I have a 15 month old) but we've been trying since February. When I do talk about it, I get 'well you can always have another one' or 'you were only a few weeks along' etc. I know people mean well but it's still hard. Plus Dec 9 is my grandpa's birthday and he just passed away in March. I have a lot of grief right now and I just need to process it. Thank you all for your support.
In Christ,
Pamela

kd580
12-07-2001, 03:53 PM
youre welcome:)

livein, i sent you a PM.

kd580
12-07-2001, 04:21 PM
HI,

I STARTED A THREAD IN THIS FORUM 4 US TO RECORD RESULTS . ITS CALLED WEIGH IN 4 CALORIE COUNTERS. PLEASE GO THERE AND RECORD RESULTS. THANX:)

aphil
12-07-2001, 10:34 PM
Livein-your calorie level is on the way low end-that is why after a couple days on plan your body is demanding food. You will do better on about 1400-your binges will be farther between.
kd-I also had all the thyroid symptoms a few months ago, including hair loss-I was tested and it was negative-come to find out I was so stressed it was affecting my peripheral vision, because even the muscles in my eyes were tight! You will have to forgive me-I am a person who rarely takes a Tylenol-I control my blood sugar through diet-my stress through writing and yoga-I have a mild form of OCD and will not take Prozac/Paxil. (Do not picture Jack Nicholson by the way:lol: I do not have those symptoms!) My mother in law is the biggest hypochondriac in the world and takes a pill for everything-everything she reads about she thinks she has-I just like for people to be diagnosed with a problem before they consider it one. You may have it in your mind that something medical is causing your plateau, and it could just be your metabolism is a bit slow naturally. I urge you to see a doctor, and go from there. If something is wrong, you need to treat it, if not, you need to figure out why the slow loss.
Tupo-I hope you think about what I said earlier and talk with your pregnant friends about your feelings. I was once in their position-My bosses wife was pregnant, I became pregnant a couple months later, and then she lost her baby. We had been friends, and she just stopped talking to me. After a couple months, I came to work to find another girl at my desk-no notice, nothing...She just couldn't handle seeing me and made her husband replace me. So I lost a friendship and a job. Know what else? My stepmother goes to church with her, and fills me in on her-and she had twin girls last year-two years after her miscarriage she was blessed double.
Aphil
;)

willbethin
12-08-2001, 08:47 AM
hello, just checking in and ready to start getting healthy , and stop the excuses. i have to go to angelinas school today, from 11 to 100 , i am volunteering to help out with lunch with santa, so i am eating a late breakfast and waiting to eat lunch till i get home.

hope everyone is having a good day.

aphil
12-08-2001, 09:34 AM
Hey,
This is our new war cry for this thread! Let's paint our faces and do this!
Let's go ladies!
Aphil

tupo_girl
12-08-2001, 10:32 PM
Today was good! I got to spend the whole day with my sister and we went shopping and shared a dinner at the Olive Garden. I'm trying to discern whether I'm hungry or just sad or whatever.
Thanks for the tips on talking to friends. It is helping. My one friend has been very sensitive and I am very excited for her. I'm still talking on another board but I just don't want to be negative about it. But they are trying to get me to talk and that makes me feel like it's ok. I think the food thing is falling more into place again. I'm also trying to eat at the table! I would like to lose 5 pounds this month and I think I can do it! God bless.
In Christ,
Pamela

aphil
12-09-2001, 11:26 AM
Pamela,
I ams so glad yesterday went well for you! I am glad you are feeling stronger and want to do for your health again.
I am glad you are talking with your friend. I know from experience it means the world for her. Feel free to talk about your feelings with us, as well as the ladies on another board. You may also go the ivillage.com and they have some nice chat rooms there for parents, some I am sure to deal with greiving and trying to get pregnant.
I wouldn't worry about that too much though. We didn't try with either of our children, and since you have a son, you are obviously not having problems getting pregnant. God will make it happen when it is meant to be. Devote your time to your husband, your son, and most importantly, yourself. Treat yourself like a queen.
Willbethin-how was yesterday, and how is today going? I was wondering, when you have your occasional cocktail-what do you drink? I seldom drink, but when I do I normally have one small glass of wine or champagne, or if in a bar setting, an ameretto and diet soda-each is about 80-100 calories. Any drink that has juice or mixer with the alcahol (like fuzzy naval,marguerita,daquiri,whiskey sour,etc.) is really up there in calories-what you drink can make all the difference. Also light beer is about 100-140 a can or bottle, so it isn't as bad. If you normally don't like wines-a lot of them are real dry, try Arbor Mist-they are inexpensive, but not yucky, the tropical fruit one is nice and only about 80 calories for a 3/4 full wine glass (about 1/2 cup).
How is everyone's exercise going? I did a half hour on my exercise bike this morning. It felt really good afterwards. :D
Well, everyone have a good day! Hang in there, WE WILL DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aphil

willbethin
12-09-2001, 09:30 PM
hello, i had a busy day today, it is just that time of year.

aphil sounds like you are doing great.

i love the olive garden.

i usually drink club soda and flavored vodka. about once or twice a week, and i really want to stop doing that.

i was very much in control of my eating today and i know i will have a great week, hope everyone else does too.

aphil
12-09-2001, 10:16 PM
Willbethin,
As far as cocktails go-that is also a decent choice if you are going to have it-around 100 calories, if you are using a shot glass or bar measure to get 1 oz. of vodka. The soda water is also better than 7 up-less calories. If you do that, just make sure you figure it in your points, and do not let the drink tempt you to overeat after you have it.
I am so glad you had a good day. I went to my in-laws today for dinner and did well. She cooks up a storm, and I only had a serving of meat and some green beans-no fried potatoes, etc. She had Christmas chocolate all around the house, and I only had 1 solitary m&m-just enought o have a taste! I was so proud.
Well, I better go to bed now, take care!
Aphil

willbethin
12-10-2001, 08:03 AM
yes aphil, i do measure it out, when i am being good, i will measure 1 1/2 oz of vodka, which is 2 pts.

you did really good with the dinner choices. i dont think i would have been as strong as you with the potatos, good for you, you are doing great!!!!

see i could have just as well had a whole plate of potatos and made a meal out of that, never even thinking twice about any other food, that is how i know i am a carb adddict.

most of my food comes from carbs, i can eat a whole plate of angelhair pasta, and that would be my meal.

so these are the eating habits i have to change.

i am doing great today, with a 9 point protien breakfast. 2 cps of water done too. i am figuring it out.

aphil
12-10-2001, 09:05 AM
Hi all,
Weighed in this morning-another pound gone- three total in this past week! I got up again early with my husband so I could exercise, I worked on my chest and arms this morning with weights.
Willbethin, I am glad you are doing okay also! We need to stick together and do this! How has your exercise been going?
Ladies, are the rest of you still out there? I hope all is well.
I am so glad to be back on track!
APhil

willbethin
12-10-2001, 10:58 AM
aphil, congrats, you are really doing it. great job!!!:cool: :)

excercise is good, but the last 2 weeks i only got 3 days a week in, i usually do four.

i am getting it together, back to 4 days a week, excercise is already done for today.

hope everyone else is doing good too.

aphil
12-10-2001, 07:19 PM
Hello everyone,
Today has been a good day. My calories have ended up at around 1800 today-I have been staying between 1300-1900, depending on what me appetite is on that particular day. I am trying to listen to my body more and eat accordingly.
It has been going pretty smooth, at this rate I hope to lose a total of 6-8 pounds by Christmas-only 3 to go to meet the low end of that goal.
Willbethin-I am glad you have been doing better with your plan. Let's do this, and in a couple of months we can email before and after photos!:cool:
Have a good night to the rest of you Ladies!
Aphil
202/199/160

tupo_girl
12-11-2001, 02:18 AM
Aphil, again thanks for all the advice.
I'm feeling better every day. Today I ate very well, plus walked the Mall of America, did some laps, played with Emmett in the pool and did some other store walking. Boy, am I tired!
I'm enjoying our little tree and the birds outside. Talk to you later!
In Christ,
Pamela

aphil
12-11-2001, 06:13 AM
Good morning ladies,
It is about 6 and I am up, done the dishes, and am geting ready to get on the excercise bike. My mother is coming to see the kids and let me get some hopping done today! Mommy alone time!:D
Pamela,I am ecstatic you are doing well! A day of shopping is a great workout in a big mall! Same as going to the zoo and walking around all day pushing a stroller!
I am glad everyone is excercising and eating on track again! The key here is to rally together and give a swift kick if someone starts to slip, and get them going again, instead of going like dominos!:^:
Let's make a mental picture girls-sittiing outside this summer watching our kids play-it is warm out-we are sipping a cold bottled water. Our kids are having a great time, and so are we-we have a nice summer glow, and we are wearing white denim shorts that show off our summer color. They just happen to be a size or two smaller than what we are wearing right now.....very nice thought huh?.....Mental pictures,ladies.....Picture yourself looking good-and do what it takes to get that way.
Aphil

tupo_girl
12-11-2001, 04:50 PM
Wow, I can barely think of wearing a size 8 or 10 shorts. I can't remember the last time I was in those sizes. Jr high, early hs? I am very hippy though, so I may not be able to get down that low although the pants now are sitting very low on the hips! That's good for me! Hehe. I can't imagine being tan either. I'm MN white, the glare might blind ya, lol. But it is good to think that way. Thanks for the encouragement. I know that we can all do this!
In Christ,
Pamela

willbethin
12-11-2001, 05:44 PM
hello ladies,i am so glad to see all the positive attiutdes coming back. lets remember what this is feeling like. i love that vision of having fun with our kids on the beach, that is my favorite thing to do. alright, i am there.

excercise looks great for everyone too. i didnt excercise today, but no matter how tired i am when i get home from my dd's daisy meeting tonight, i have a date with richard simmons.

i put the excercising off this morning to go food shopping , so now i have to do it tonight.

lets keep going girls!!! we are doing great.;)

aphil, that is what we have to do, listen to our bodies.

Faith~
12-11-2001, 05:47 PM
aphil,
Just wanted to drop in and say Hi!

I'm 7 lbs down today and feeling like I can really do this. :) I'm taking it slowly right now, just counting calories (1200-1500 depending on how I feel) and walking. Thank you for all your help & encouragement, I may need a lot more of it to get me through the holidays.

Wishing everyone willpower though the holidays and may you reach & maintain your goal in the New Year!

Faith~
222/215/120

aphil
12-11-2001, 06:56 PM
Hi girls,
So glad you dropped by from the other thread! I bet 7 pounds feel really good! That is a great start!
Willbethin-I also have some Richard Simmons dance tapes! I do strength training 3x a week, and excercise bike or walk the rest-but use them on those days I just don't want to exercise-he makes it so fun! He is a great man to spend his life doing what he does.
Pamela-glad to hear from you as well-hey-right now I am white too! I'd blind everyone in a 50 mile radius!:o
Did well today-exercised,stayed within my calorie limit-had wonderful thin crust vegetable pizza for dinner-if you like veggies I urge you to try it-Pizza Hut thin crispy crust veggie lovers-only 200 calories a slice! It is nice to be able to have my veggies in something I really like!
I finished a lot of my holiday shopping today-just a couple more gifts to get now. Well, I better go-let's keep up the positive attitudes.
Aphil

willbethin
12-11-2001, 09:22 PM
hello, last post before i go to bed. hey that richard simmons stood me up, ok ok, maybe it was the other way around:lol: i just couldnt get motivated to do it, i am used to doing it around 10:00am. but i only set myself for a 30 min. excercise routine for 4 days a week, so i still have time to make it up.

aphil, the pizza sounds great. and faith congrats on the weight loss.

aphil
12-12-2001, 07:43 AM
Please go to Doin' it the old fashioned way #3! This one is way too long!
Aphil

kd580
12-12-2001, 08:45 PM
thanx aphil.

im here... my puter had a virus so i havent been around. tryin 2 hang in there:)