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Cholie
08-20-2006, 06:49 PM
I have done my homework and research on the new hot topic of colon cleansing. Many health professionals and doctors are recommending it for overwieght pepole, and those with IBS, chronic constipation, and other digestive disorders. They are recommending it because your body's absorbition of calories and nurtients is better when your colon and digestive track are working correcty. https://www.drnatura.com/picture_gallery.html The link I provide here is very graphic, so if you have a weak stomach, I do not suggest reviewing these testimonials or pictures. This pictures show what colon cleansing can do for you. I am a chronic constipation sufferer, so this is something I am seriously considering. Is there anyone who has tried colon cleansing? If so, can you share your story and results with me?


nelie
08-20-2006, 07:18 PM
I've looked into it and most of the ingredients are easily purchased at a regular store for much cheaper. I highly recommend psyllium husk powder which you will find in colon cleansing products. It is a common ingredient of metamucil but you can also find it in health food stores. Also, I read an article recently that said common products such as lemon juice and garlic can kill parasites in your stomach if you have them.

Suzanne 3FC
08-20-2006, 07:28 PM
Colon cleansing has become the latest health scam to hit the marketplace. It's not exactly new, but has lately become more popular, due to the massive marketing efforts of the manufacturers. We've had a LOT of discussions about this in the DIW forum.

The nutshell version: Our colons do not contain toxins and colon cleansing is just a fancy way to get diarrhea and we don't gain any benefit from it.

The longer version: First, someone designed our bodies to be very efficient and we are naturally self cleaning. Eat your daily requirement of fiber and drink you water and voila! You're clean.

Second - The marketers of these products use a lot of scare tactics regarding toxins and parasites and other nasty things that entice us to place our orders as quickly as possible. That's all they are - scare tactics. If you DO have parasites, then you need to see your doctor for an antiparasitic drug and further advice. The term "toxin" is also used very loosely and no one can ever seem to prove what they are. The health experts say it's a myth and a sales tactic. The advertisements can sound so convincing that it's easy to believe them, but that's what good marketing is all about.

What these products will do is cause diarrhea and fluid loss. They won't improve your health. Doctors recommend we eat at least 25 grams of fiber daily, and drink about 8 glasses of water each day, to keep our bowels moving, healthy, and naturally cleansed.

Colon cleansing has the potential to be dangerous, and doctors don't recommend them unless you are preparing for a colonoscopy.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/col...ansing/AN00065 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colon-cleansing/AN00065)

http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsI...ews_detail.asp (http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.194/news_detail.asp)

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/100/105845.htm

If you are having problems with constipation, you may need to increase the amount of fiber and water you take in. If that doesn't work, see your doctor.

The only recommendations I've found for this type of product/treatment come from the manufacturers or other people with a financial stake in the product. I've not found one valid medical recommendation, as all of the resources I've checked have said it was hooey. Even Dr. Weil, well known for promoting natural products and treatments, says it is not necessary.


DeafinlySmart
08-20-2006, 08:05 PM
Increased fiber and even px strength fiber supplement doesn't work for me. My next step is Zelnorm (for IBS). I'm nervous about yet another medicine added to my regime. Ive had chronic constipation for 7 years (since the birth of my second son). I have increased water, decreased soda, changed my diet in other ways. My colon just doesn't work. I don't know that I would go to an alternative website cuz I know nothing about them. At least not without talking to my doc.

Cholie
08-20-2006, 08:10 PM
Thank you for the info.... :) I guess colon cleansing is not a healthy thing to do.

eadavenp
08-21-2006, 07:47 PM
apparently, the pysillium husk powder is basically making a "cast" of your intestine, which is the why it looks like there is so much impacted bad material coming out.

Stevi-rocks
08-22-2006, 01:44 AM
OFF TOPIC! Cholie you look like Debbie Gibson in your avatar. :D

rebeleagle1965
08-22-2006, 06:02 AM
I'm not an expert by any means, so anyone reading this feel free to totally ignore me- I have also had chronic constipation for about a decade. In a normal person with a healthy digestive tract, colon cleansing would be a totally unnecessary waste of money, and possibly even unhealthy. But chronic constipation is also extremely unhealthy! Our bodies gather the nutrients from foods we eat by being absorbed through the colon and into the bloodstream, so chronic constipation causes a multitude of problems. The obvious is malnutrition and/or slower metabolism, from the improper function of this nutrient absorption process. Moreover, the diet of the average american is not clean, unprocessed, unpreserved foods, so the toxins are not a product of our colons, but a product of what we choose to ingest, which is left in our bodies for an abnormal length of time. A polluted environment in the colon causes an overgrowth of harmful bacteria-not exactly "toxins", but definitely "toxic". If the colon is designed to pass things along to our blood, it makes sense to me that all of the other chemicals in our food could as well, and the longer it's there, the worse it will be. And I havent even touched on the painful topic of hemmorhoids!
Being chronically constipated CAN affect your health-ask any doctor. It causes fatigue, headaches, depression, metabolic problems, foul body odor/breath, unhealthy skin, hair, and nails, and much more. These are not just the result of a physical blockage.
Anyone to whom this problem is new should consult their doctor, try to identify the cause of it, and try to use the suggestions in the previous posts about modifying their diet to correct it. But for me, fiber alone does not work-in fact, it makes the problem worse.
I tried the drnatura product, and it works for me. I got two months worth, and a few days after starting I was going 2-3 times per day, instead of once a week. I stopped 2 weeks into it, because we travelled back to our home state and I didnt bring it with me. During that time was the only time in about 8 years that I went to the bathroom without the aid of some kind of laxative. I haven't finished my supply yet, so I can't attest to lasting effects.
I never had any scary occurances like those pictured on the website, but the incidence of parasitic infection is more than you think. Cambridge University published studies of caucasion children in the U.S., Canada, and Europe that were tested for infection with positive results in different areas ranging from 30%-80%. Not 3rd world countries. The world health organization estimates that 1 in 4 people in the world are infected at any given time, most without symptoms. Not all colon cleanses include anti-parasitic components. I don't think they're necessary if you don't make a habit of eating undercooked meats, you haven't travelled outside the U.S., and you wash your hands regularly.
Yes, you can buy fiber and psyllium husks cheaper than a colon cleanse, but if you check the ingredients on any cleanse, there are much more expensive and hard to find herbs listed. I can't state for a fact that any or all of these herbs are a necessary component, or why they would be effective. But I can say that a cleanse has helped ME, and fiber, psyllium husks, tons of water, exercise, and even laxatives have not.

Shalia
08-22-2006, 08:05 PM
If you have chronic diahreah or constipation, ask your doctor to test you for celiac. Both are fairly common side effects, and a change in diet will solve the problem.

Heather
08-23-2006, 08:34 AM
Just to add to the scam aspect, here's a link to a site which talks about how the psyllium husk creates the illusion of removing nasty bits from our colon.

http://www.rawveg.info/coloncleanse.html

In other words, there may be an alternate explanation for how the product produces such scary looking results, other than the fact that there is nasty stuff needing to be expelled from our bodies.

I actually ran into an infomercial yesterday about colon cleansing and watched it for awhile. I was not surprised by the scare tactics used. Psychologists have found these tactics to be VERY effective, but that doesn't mean truth is being dispensed. They invoke authority, make excellent use of scare tactics, present one-sided arguments and do a lot to create cognitive dissonance (make you feel like a hypocrite if you don't care about your colon). Again, these tactics are very effective in scaring us.

rebeleagle1965
08-24-2006, 12:19 AM
Psyllium husks do produce some weird results. Psyllium alone has never worked for me-when I was doing Atkins, which can cause problems with constipation due to the lack of fiber in the diet, lots of people on that message board suggested using it because it worked for them. It's made to work by creating soft bulk in the colon that is easily passable, much the way fiber helps.
Psyllium husks are cheap, and so is fiber. Even the rawveg report suggests using them-psyllium doesn't create an illusion, it does help remove waste, and so does fiber.
When I tried to use things like metamucil, psyllium, etc, all it gave me was a stomachache. I still wasnt able to go to the bathroom, so I would just have more bulk built up. The cleanse that I'm using has things in it that also make the bowels contract (hope I'm not being too graphic). There are prescriptions out there that do the same thing, but I'd rather try natural elements before I resort to more drastic measures.
Most people dont need a colon cleanse product, a colonic, or anything more than dietary components. If you eliminate normally, why would you? But anyone who's had the problem I have knows that desperate causes call for desperate measures....

luckyducky
09-09-2006, 12:16 AM
using those type of "stimulant laxatives" actually is causing a "rebound" effect on the colon, I work a lot in the endoscopy suite, and have seen the actual results of stimulant laxative aka colon cleansing abuse. There is a condition called melanosis coli, it is actually damage to the colon wall causing it to become black, commonly seen in stimulant laxative abuse. Not only does the intestinal wall turn black, but, it also makes the intrinsic muscle to become more lax, which is what caused the intestine to move slowly in the first place. My experience has been, folks who use stimulant laxatives are very reluctant to stop using them because the constipation that goes along with it is uncomfortable until the colon heals itself into working normally for that person again, ( can take awhile).
The colon absorbs water and , just for clarification, the small intestine is what absorbs the needed nutrients from the food, the large intestine then eliminates the waste product, there are no " toxins in there... the liver and kidneys are what actually "detoxify" the body. The good Lord put our bodies together the way he did for a certain reason, I don't know why, but, I think they work pretty darn good for the most part without our interference. I hope you do your research clearly about the "natural elements" just because it is "natural" doesn't necessarily mean it is good for you to use on a regular basis. heck, Foxglove is a very pretty perennial herb, but it is also a VERY powerful heart medicine, now, you wouldn't mess around with a heart medicine would you? Now, if someone marketed it as something to cleanse your body, would you know that it is a very dangerous drug? This is just a hypothetical question, just for comparison sake, I would more likely go to a dr who has some knowledge of homeopathic remedys than buy something from someone at an herbal store. I always figure, if they are selling something then the opinion they have is biased, but, I am more naturally skeptical anyway. I like drs, and believe they actually got into medicine because they wanted to help people... Anyway, sorry for the soapbox, this is a sore subject with me cause I have seen the damage people do to their bodies inadvertantly. Hope another opinion helps.

Jennig
09-10-2006, 07:36 PM
ok i go for colonics quiet a bit.. i LOVE them.. its different to taking duiretics etc. its done by a machine and it cleans u out. I lost a lot of weight after it.

mainly because your colon has pockets and debris gets in there and doesnt come out. when i watched the "cr*p" no pun intended coming out of me i was disgustd. I saw moldy undigested food.. you got to think that ISNT good for you. there was food that i could identify like the girl said to me Hey did you eat carrots i was thinking omg like 5 days ago!!

I know its gross to talk about but now im a beliver in it. AFter watching Dr. Gillian mckeith on You are what you eat.. she recommends EVERYONE does one.

they also look at ur poop to see whats in it if you suffer from yeast etc.

the procedure is 1hr. here is how its done DO NOT READ IF YOUR FAINT HEARTED




They insert a well lubricated tube in your bottom its not huge

you lay comfortably on your back.. the machine starts by putting body temp water through your colon.. you feel as if you need to go to the bathroom.. once the fluid is in.. the stop the machine.. hold it for a moment whilst massaging your colon to get all the stuff loose.. then they hit the release button and there you go!! you see it all come out.

They do this a few times until you feel the water go all the way around your colon.. ITS A GREAT feeling.. and you really feel energetic a few days after it.

just thought id let you know :)

Suzanne 3FC
09-11-2006, 12:44 PM
Jennig, the only weight you lost was solid matter in your intestines, which would eventually move it's way out of your body anyway. Have dinner and you've gained it back. You don't lose any body fat from around your body. I think what you viewed coming out was perfectly normal. We don't normally view our excrement while it's still going through the digestive process when it's covered by strange bacteria and other matter that we don't normally see, lol. So I'm sure the sight was not very appealing, but it was nothing to worry about.

Colonic irrigation can be very dangerous and is usually frowned upon by the medical establishment unless used for specific reasons, such as preparing for medical tests or surgery.

According to WebMD: The dangers, Black says, include spreading infection from contaminated equipment and harmfully altering the chemical balance of the colon. A major function of the colon is to absorb minerals such as potassium and send them through the bloodstream. Colonics could wipe out these minerals and thereby cause deficiencies.

From Harvard:
Colonic irrigation can potentially cause severe adverse effects and must be carefully administered. People receiving frequent treatments may absorb too much water, leading to electrolyte imbalances in the blood, nausea, vomiting, heart failure, fluid in the lungs, abnormal heart rhythms or coma. Infections have been reported, possibly because of contaminated equipment or as a result of clearing out normal colon bacteria. There is a risk of bowel perforation (breakage of the bowel wall), which is a severe complication. Deaths have been reported.


Colonic irrigation should not be used in people with diverticulitis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, severe or internal hemorrhoids or tumors in the rectum or colon. It also should not be used soon after bowel surgery (unless directed by your health care provider). Regular treatments should be avoided by people with heart disease or kidney disease (renal insufficiency). Be sure that the equipment used is sterile and that the practitioner is experienced. Colonic irrigation should not be used as the sole treatment (instead of more proven therapies) for severe conditions, and it should not delay consultation with a qualified health care provider for a potentially severe symptom or illness.

Suzanne 3FC
09-11-2006, 12:53 PM
using those type of "stimulant laxatives" actually is causing a "rebound" effect on the colon, I work a lot in the endoscopy suite, and have seen the actual results of stimulant laxative aka colon cleansing abuse. There is a condition called melanosis coli, it is actually damage to the colon wall causing it to become black, commonly seen in stimulant laxative abuse. Not only does the intestinal wall turn black, but, it also makes the intrinsic muscle to become more lax, which is what caused the intestine to move slowly in the first place. My experience has been, folks who use stimulant laxatives are very reluctant to stop using them because the constipation that goes along with it is uncomfortable until the colon heals itself into working normally for that person again, ( can take awhile).
The colon absorbs water and , just for clarification, the small intestine is what absorbs the needed nutrients from the food, the large intestine then eliminates the waste product, there are no " toxins in there... the liver and kidneys are what actually "detoxify" the body. The good Lord put our bodies together the way he did for a certain reason, I don't know why, but, I think they work pretty darn good for the most part without our interference. I hope you do your research clearly about the "natural elements" just because it is "natural" doesn't necessarily mean it is good for you to use on a regular basis. heck, Foxglove is a very pretty perennial herb, but it is also a VERY powerful heart medicine, now, you wouldn't mess around with a heart medicine would you? Now, if someone marketed it as something to cleanse your body, would you know that it is a very dangerous drug? This is just a hypothetical question, just for comparison sake, I would more likely go to a dr who has some knowledge of homeopathic remedys than buy something from someone at an herbal store. I always figure, if they are selling something then the opinion they have is biased, but, I am more naturally skeptical anyway. I like drs, and believe they actually got into medicine because they wanted to help people... Anyway, sorry for the soapbox, this is a sore subject with me cause I have seen the damage people do to their bodies inadvertantly. Hope another opinion helps.

I found your post very helpful, thanks :)

Jennig
09-11-2006, 03:32 PM
Oh yes i agree. it wasnt weight loss as in fat loss. it was matter and water. I only get them once every 4 weeks and for every report that says they arent good theres 2 that say it is.

Remember when Acupuncture and chirproctory came about the "medical community" to this day oppose.


and what you view coming out isnt normal. Ive done a lot of studying on this and spoken to a lot of specialists. Unless you go to the bathroom after EVERY meal the medical assoc. says you should have a bowel movemebt "3-4 times a day". Well i was lucky for 1 in 2 days.

Your colon has pockets where un-digestive food gets stuck. Its not for everyone. just like dieting isnt for everyone. I suffered from Candida which is excess yeast etc. I found this really helped me a lot.

here is a link http://www.colonic-association.org/hydrotherapy.html

I found it very beneficial

Jennig
09-11-2006, 03:33 PM
things i was worried about was food i ate well over 72 hours to 5 days ago seeing it come out undigested.. not good.

here is the place i go you can see the machinary and they do explain it better http://www.colonic-irrigation.uk.com/colonic.htm

luckyducky
09-11-2006, 09:30 PM
To make it perfectly clear, I work in the endoscopy suite often in our local hospital, I am a surgical technologist, I have seen thousands of colons, and I have never seen "undigested food stuck in those pockets"... I do believe the pockets you are referring to are diverticulosis, a condition occurring in many of today's Western culture diet, we here in the States call it the "meat and potatoes diet". These pockets fill with stool, same thing that comes out... no peanuts, no popcorn, no nothing but, stool... undigested food, sounds to me more like an undiagnosed food absorption problem, as far as defecating more than once per day, I don't know a dr in their right mind who would say that you need to go that often, many people don't go as often as that, some don't even go for more than a week or more, but, here is the thing, that is NORMAL for them! Please be very careful with the colonic cleansing, to throw off your electrolyte balance is just asking for trouble, I am not an expert on what can happen then, but, I can factually state what is inside a colon, first hand experience you know... Please talk to a REAL dr before trying anything like colon cleansing, it actually CAN be harmful for you! Ok, once again, off my soapbox, hopefully, this information at least makes some people think twice before jumping on the colon cleansing bandwagon...

jazzi
09-11-2006, 09:49 PM
I have had a colonic/colon cleanse (2to be exact). The Dr. I went to gave me a diet to follow to help keep my colon clean and help me remain regular. I decided this was a good option for me because like many people I was suffering from constipation and had tried laxatives and colon cleansing supplememts from nutrition stores with no change. The colonic changed all that and I lost 10 pounds. I don't know if this helps but I can sayit worked for me and I have not had any health related problems from it.

DeafinlySmart
09-12-2006, 07:02 PM
Not that I've done the things mentioned in these posts but LOL...using the bathroom every other day..dang I should be so lucky. I go weekly. It really hurts if I go beyond that. Some "better" weeks I go a few extra times with a few pebbles. My 3 year old out poops me any day. I know that's gross..but thta's my life for the last 7 years. I'm currently talking to a doc about it.

nelie
09-12-2006, 09:55 PM
This isn't a subject I like but...

I used to go every few days and that is how I liked it. I preferred that over every day. Now I go minimum once a day, quite often twice a day and sometimes even more than that. As soon as I eat something first thing in the morning, I have to go. Then usually a little later in the day, I'll need to go again and sometimes before bed, I'll need to go yet once more.

All I did was change my diet and gradually my body changed. I eat lots of whole foods and very few processed foods. Sometimes I'll take psyllium husk powder but that isn't an every day event and usually it isn't even a full serving.

A lot of things have to do with our habits. Our body isn't supposed to need "help" to make us go to the bathroom or else we'd really be in trouble as a species. What is our problem is our diet.

rebeleagle1965
09-12-2006, 11:36 PM
Sorry for this lengthy post ladies, but I'm dragging out MY soap box.
The fact that we aren't SUPPOSED to need any help going to the bathroom, and that God made our bodies efficient is absolutely correct.
That being said-Adam and Eve didn't eat quarter pounders with cheese, or lean cuisines, or anything else that is prepackaged, or full of preservatives and a myriad of other chemical concoctions. Heck-even our meat supplies are full of hormones and chemicals! I'm sure that there is a very small group of people in American society that eat only natural, organic, and unprocessed foods, but the rest of us MAY end up with problems due to what we have eaten for our entire lives-even if these things are considered healthy.

The American Medical Association defines chronic constipation as evacuating the bowels 3 times per week or less, and that evacuating twice per day is normal-so no offense luckyducky, but if you don't know any doctors that would "in their right mind" say that we should go that often, then apparently you have yet to ask them-and you shouldn't tell people with concerns about their digestive health that it is normal to go more than a week without a bowel movement-that can actually be dangerous. I'm sure your words of warning were well intended, but stating (twice) for effect that you work in the medical profession, and then advising incorrectly hit a nerve with me. A surgical assistant has no more training in digestive health than a dental hygenist. And the diverticulosis you talk about? You yourself say that it is a condition common to our western "meat and potatos" diet, hello, that's us! I'm sure most people do only have normal fecal material impacted along the colon-you say that like it's not a big deal. That alone can have an ill effect on our health, because it blocks nutrient absorption.
While I agree that a colonic or colon cleansing products could be dangerous for people who do not need them, I also think that the longer all of these impure things stay in our bodies, the more harmful they can be. Yes, if it is done unnecessarily, a colonic COULD upset the delicate balance of bacteria in the body. Not to be too crude here, but so can douching-and Summer's Eve isn't considered evil! And yes, there is a risk of infection from the chance that the administering equipment may not be sterile-but I'm sure that it's quite a lot less than the risk of getting a tattoo or an ear piercing-and quite frankly, there have been PLENTY of cases of that happening, yet we think nothing of it. The only factual evidence I have been able to find that colonics, NOT colon cleanses, can be truly harmful is if they are used too often, and the user does not replace the electrolytes lost in the process. There have in fact been a few rare cases of death in very elderly people for this reason.
Below is a link to a family medicine site stating the reasons for and benefits of colon cleansing, that is in no way affiliated with any product or company.
http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/colonic_irrigation.jsp
Actually, many doctors do recommend a colonic in certain cases, and often it is considered to be an integral part of cancer treatment. In fact-a colonic is very similiar to an enema-the only difference is the amount of water used-and many doctors REQUIRE the use of an enema before childbirth. The risk of infection and/or tearing from the apparatus used is the same as with a colonic.
On that note, isn't the equipment used to perform an endoscopy of the digestive tract even more invasive than that, and does it not carry the same risk of tearing or infection? Don't get me wrong-I'm not foolish enough to believe that equipment in a hospital (or the abilities of an actual physician) isn't much more safe than going to a spa. My point is that these things CAN occur anywhere, and people HAVE gotten infections from hospitals, and complications from procedures generally deemed to be safe.

There is a risk associated with any medical procedure or medication out there. The decision we all make anytime we have surgery, take a pill, or even have an x-ray is whether the possible benefits outweight the possible risks.

Suzanne 3FC
09-12-2006, 11:55 PM
It's true that we are putting a lot of things in our bodies that were not on the planet when our bodies were designed. Big macs, canned chili, and even salad dressings with several inches of unpronounceable ingredient lists may well be doing harm to our bodies in many ways. But the solution is not to fall prey to potential colon cleansing scams that are not beneficial anyway. The solution is to just quit putting the crap in our mouths, eat healthier, drink more water, and get plenty of exercise. Then what comes out should be as healthy as what went in.

I don't think anyone disputes that this sort of treatment may be necessary as advised by a physician for specific uses. The problem, as I see it, is that there is a whole industry out there that is taking advantage of the average persons lack of knowledge in this area, overwhelming them with false information and scare tactics, in order to sell a product/service that is probably unnecessary in almost every case. It should be up to our physicians whether or not we need something like this. Not the sales lady at the local health barn.

nelie
09-13-2006, 02:10 PM
I would agree in that we should focus on improving our health through diet, exercise and the proper fluids rather than using products to cope with our poor habits.

Rebeleagle, Not to get off topic but since you mentioned douching and comparing it to a colonic. Doctors advise AGAINST douching as well as every health website I've seen. It kills bacteria and killing the healthy bacteria can actually cause infections and other issues. The same for colonics, it can rid your colon of healthy bacteria which our colons need.

rebeleagle1965
09-13-2006, 11:01 PM
I hope my posts weren't misinterpreted-maybe they are just too long to get my point across, here :^:
I don't think that douches are necessary or not possibly harmful to some people-but they are found in any drug or general store, people have been using them in some form for hundreds of years, and no one is out there with a picket sign in protest of them, or claiming that they are a "scam out to get your money". Any commercial selling anything (including this) is made to make you feel that you NEED that product, and that doesn't necessarily make it some evil entity. I actually stated that douching CAN BE harmful-I'm not promoting it, just comparing it. Maybe that got lost somehow.
Yes, if it is done unnecessarily, a colonic COULD upset the delicate balance of bacteria in the body. Not to be too crude here, but so can douching-and Summer's Eve isn't considered evil!
I agree that the majority of the population does not need any kind of help in this department, and that dietary correction would most likely be the best route to go.
Most people dont need a colon cleanse product, a colonic, or anything more than dietary components. If you eliminate normally, why would you? But anyone who's had the problem I have knows that desperate causes call for desperate measures....
I ALSO agree that anyone with a serious enough problem to consider trying a colon cleanse or colonic should try dietary correction (i.e. stop putting the "crap" into our mouths, or something as simple as fiber), AND consult their physician for advise. I'm not advocating anyone running out to the nearest health barn for medical attention, or even buying a product of any kind, or getting a colonic.
In a normal person with a healthy digestive tract, colon cleansing would be a totally unnecessary waste of money, and possibly even unhealthy. But chronic constipation is also extremely unhealthy! Anyone to whom this problem is new should consult their doctor, try to identify the cause of it, and try to use the suggestions in the previous posts about modifying their diet to correct it.

I feel so strongly about this because it has been a serious problem for me, and many other people, and I hate to see this being dismissed so nonchalantly. These threads should not be one sided, and every one like this that comes up seems to be shushed away quickly with criticism. Alot of people come here for information, and reviews of products/experiences before they try, and whether that be bad news, good news, or both-I thought that was what this particular forum was intended for. I'm just trying to show the other side of this, and it isn't all a dangerous, scam based, unnecessary capitalist fraud. We are all entitled to our own opinions, and I know that many don't share my views on natural medicine. I personally do not wish to be on any long term medication (with known side effects) for anything if I don't have to, or have surgery, or both. People have been using natural medicine forever-many doctors today are trained in holistics because it can be a useful alternative.
Case in point-
When my daughter had chronic ear infections, the doctors' first response was always antibiotics. The problem is, those caused more problems, like yeast infections and yellow teeth. A doctor trained in holistics gave me the option of a natural remedy, she never had to take antibiotics for that again, and soon outgrew the problem. Some of you (and even some doctors) may not agree with what I did, or that it was risky or even stupid not to opt for our "modern technology", but it worked, she avoided surgery, and I am thankful that I had that information and opportunity available to me, and that I wasn't only given one opinion and scared away from everything else.

nelie
09-14-2006, 09:32 AM
I know you were comparing douching to colonics but you were comparing something that is harmful and doctors advise against to prove your point about something you believe isn't harmful (flushing healthy bacteria). That is why I mentioned it.

Basically, just because something is sold and marketed doesn't mean it isn't harmful. People are out to make money and they will do whatever possible to make it. If they can try to make people believe they are doing something "healthy" then all the better. It is kind of like people used to believe ingesting mercury was beneficial until they found out that it was very deadly.

MollyElise
09-28-2006, 12:26 PM
I used to get very constipated but do not like to use anything that assists in my bowel movements. Here is my low cost, healthy cure for constipation.

1 day a week make a full pound of dry beans (black, black eye pea, pinto, garbanzo, etc.) they cost about a dollar, all you do is soak them, then cook them in water w/ some seasonings (and I add onion & garlic to EVERYTHING) for a couple hours or leave them in a crock pot.

Then eat 1 cup every day as a snack or with rice and a salad for dinner.

You've got a filling snack, that is very cheap, high in protein and will keep you very regular.

Also, soy products are really good about getting things moving along, but you have to start small and work up to large servings or you will get severe cramps.

my ivy
09-28-2006, 12:50 PM
I'm post lap sigmoid surgery 2 years ago chronic constipation and lack of fiber along with side effects of meds caused me to have 7 feet of my intestinal track removed (diverticulitis) scary at most you must go regularly if not please do concern don't just say oh well maybe I'll go tomorrow... Bad choice. I was even tattooed for a baggy how scary is that. By baggy I mean the one that you go potty into then trow away and put new one big hole on stomach. I now know how dangerous it is not to listen to body always drink plenty of water ,fiber, and exercise.
do be afraid.

Keep regular and healthy.