After reading the horrible, rude and inaccurate comments on Jennifers journal I was outraged! Then I just wanted to cry!
I was fortunate to discover this board Feb. 2000. The hard work and improvements that these great chicks have done to this site over the past year and a half are phenominal! The love, support, education, participation, motivation that these three great women have accomplished on this board has helped thousands of us!
These women should be applauded NOT criticized!
Will you join me in thanking Jennifer, Susan and Amy?
If not for them, we wouldn't have each other either!
Well, I just went back and read Suzannes last journal entry. Now I really want to cry. These women have struggled right along with us PUBLICLY. They've posted their struggles, their ups and downs right along with us. Why in the world would anyone email them that THEY are failures?
Mother Hens~~I had no idea that those things were going on. I've taken your work on this wonderful site for granted. How? Because I come here time and time again to get the motivation and support that keeps me going. I'm so sorry that you have not been receiving it back.
What can we do?
Pooky
09-06-2001, 03:47 PM
THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU!!!! I can't even thank you enough because my post will go over!:lol: Jennifer, please don't stop journaling, just do it when you can and let us know how you are. I understand that as part creator of the site you are liable to draw criticism for those who are so obviously uneducated about weight loss, but you know what? There are thousands more on this site who are inspired by you, the fact that you have the same issues as everyone else, the fact that you care about the site enough to make a stand, and the fact that we are all behind you!
We all know how embarrasing it can be to show up at a meeting where everyone else is overweight, the beauty of this site is that we share who we are on the INSIDE and it doesn't damn well matter what we look like on the outside. We work on the outside in our own private worlds, but online, we are all human beings, struggles, gains, and losses and we are thankful that we have such inspiring people to look up to. No one here wants to be as thin as a supermodel, and no one here is looking for a magic bullet. We love and appreciate everything you've done for us you three--you provide us with a way to reach out to others who share our humaness, weight or not. Thank-you once again! :) :) :)
Pooky, a.k.a. Angela
LindaBC
09-06-2001, 06:57 PM
One of the most annoying things about the Internet is that often you have no way of getting to the source of a post so you can personally flay the sender to shreds. It's very frustrating to be bursting with all sorts of neat phrases and nobody to spit them out at.
After reading the letter to Jennifer I just want to say that I hope and pray that she doesn't think everyone feels the way Mr. or Ms Cline do. Everyone here greatly appreciates all the time and money you three put into this site. We also know that you're certainly not getting rich off of it.
If this Cline person is reading these posts (which I doubt), I'd just like them to take a look around the real world...you know, the one inhabited by mortals who are not perfect. There are still some doctors (fewer all the time thank goodness) who advise their patients not to smoke but they still smoke themselves. There are still preachers who tell their congregations to sin no more but are the worst sinners of all. There are famous sports figures who are supposedly role models for our children who have feet of clay (O.J. Simpson comes to mind)! There are spokespeople for companies and institutions who don't live up to the things they're supposed to represent. Poor Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, comes to mind. I recently saw a photo of her in one of those expose sheets wearing a swim suit and looking decidedly chubbier than when I last saw her speaking on the benefits of Weight Watchers.
Imagine having to always look your leanest because you're the spokeswoman for WW and never being able to let it all hang out. I certainly don't blame her or judge her. Unless a person is dealing with a weight problem for the very first time, he/she has no idea how difficult it is to lose and regain, lose and regain even more. It's not just the physical limitations imposed by the extra weight and the medical problems, but the emotional roller coaster ride, the shame, heartache, the self-blame. Hey, nobody is harder on us than we are on ourselves and who more capable of running a website such as this one than someone who has been there and done that?
That Cline person was totally out of line for saying those things to Jennifer and I wish he/she could spend just one day in her shoes.
Jennifer...we are with you 100%. Don't let those moronic comments get you down.
lakelog
09-06-2001, 07:32 PM
:wave: Hi all. Pardon my nosiness but I HAD to say something here. I am so shocked to say the least at this whole situation. It's ashame that people who don't approve can just type "www.somethingelse.com" and go somewhere else. What ever happened to if you can't say something nice then keep your mouth shut! I, along with everyone else out there, love this site and appreciate the friends that it has brought me. The girls on our forum are on first name basis and feel like we have known each other forever. I came here back in May from another board that absolutely treated everyone with "rudeness". They degraded everyones type or method of weight loss unless it was the same as what they used. Whoever didn't like it here should go there!
I personally want to say to Jennifer, Suzanne and Amy, THANK YOU for all that you do for this site. 14,000 people can't all be wrong here. Keep it up girls!
mgerby
09-06-2001, 08:24 PM
Dear Jennifer and suzanne
I was compelled to post after reading jennifer's journal entry.I have to say that this site has saved my sanity more than once and I have met some of the most wonderful people here.
I have never really gotten into reading your journals..so was really surprised when I did.You gals are so brave to put your thoughts into words and you seem much more real to me now.The pain that you expressed is so real and I'm sure almost all of us can relate to it in some way and it helps us just to know that other people relate and feel the way we do.
I don't think you would have the attendence on this site that you do if you all looked like models..we live in the real world.And you 2 are real people and I guess I didn't get that till today.I want to thank you so much for this site and the support that you provide to so many people.
I have never met you ,but I know if I did I would like you and give you a big hug for all your wonderful deeds.Thank you so much,words can not express how much I thank you.
Mgerby
nasus40
09-06-2001, 08:32 PM
I too need to offer my support. I have been here for a little over a year, and have lost over 50 lbs. I know that could not have been done without the constant suppport that I have found here. I also have made many positive changes in mylife because if that and have gained a poerosnal ability to be able to set goals and work towards them. I am facing a big change in my life now but have the ability to look to it with some encouragement and excitement where as it would not have happened before the weight loss. I have found self confidence with my losses that was not there before. I thankyou from the bottom of my heart. Thankyou.
jdoneil1
09-06-2001, 08:43 PM
Dearest Jennifer, Amy, and Susan,
I want to personally voice my sincerest and most heartfelt thank you for the web site. You can not imagine the help this wonderfule site you created has been to me in the last two years. Every time I'm ready to call it quits and live with the fat and the related health problems, I log onto this site and read until I'm motivated to try yet again.
Thanks to this site, your journals and links, and the awesome support for the various threads I've participated in, I've managed to stay one step ahead of the 275 mark and keep trying to lose the weight alltogether. Thanks to you and the other beautiful people at this site, I convinced myself to try yet another diet program and believe I've finally found the one that works for me. I never would have considered trying this program without the encouragement and support found at your web site.
As to the Clines . . . Well, my mother raised me to be too much of a lady to tell you what I truly think of them. :devil: Suffice to say that there are, unfortunately, some truly unhappy people in this world who seem heck-bent of making others as unhappy as themselves. Please forgive them. Then forget about them.
Whatever you choose to do with your lives and this site, please know that for this woman's life you have made a world of positive difference.
Thank you.
Warmest regards,
Joanne D. O'Neil
jenniwookie
09-06-2001, 10:48 PM
Ladies,
I am new to this site and have posted a handful of times in the past few days, but I want to say thank you for making this a positive, inviting, supporting place to come for those of us who really rely on this outside network of individuals who suffer the same overweight distress every day of our lives.
I think it is extremely sad that people with zero self worth need to bring down others who are trying to help encourage others, just to try and make themselves feel better. It's like my mother always told me -- if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I think all you women should be aplauded for your blood, sweat, tears (not to mention the time away from everything from family and activities and the financial drain) that you have all put in to this site to make it successful and bring us all together!
It's obvious that everyone here loves and respects you and are offering support during this difficult situation.
Jenniwookie
noranoranora
09-07-2001, 06:04 AM
I'm relatively new to this site, too. There are many ways to show support, lending a shoulder, let a friend rant.... you can also send money as a sign of support. There's a place where you can do that at the top of this page. If you have an account set up with Amazon.com you can do it fast and painlessly. Let's show our outrage with big piles of cash for these amazing women!!! :))))
Tippy
09-07-2001, 09:39 AM
I think my ears were steaming after I read those journals. How cruel, how vicious! I emailed Suzanne last night and hopefully, I was able to encourage her and Jennifer.
This site was here for me through many difficult times. My mother's death comes to mind. I was able to go to the chatroom for company and comfort. When I get discouraged with being disabled, I come to this forum to read and get motivated to try again.
I have no idea who or what the Clines are and what their agenda could be and, personally, I don't care. People like that don't understand that what goes around, comes around. Let God take care of vengence as He does such a good job of it! God bless!
peach pit
09-07-2001, 02:51 PM
Dear Suzanne, Jennifer and Amy,
I have been thinking about this thread since Janice posted it yesterday. I have come to the conclusion that there are just not enough words to describe the appreciation that I feel. Your site, these chicks have changed my life. There are real people sitting behind their computers offering words of comfort and understanding and advice not only about weight issues but also life issues. LIFE ISSUES....big stuff!
When I came on here, I began to low carb and I began to feel better physically. BUT! There was also a gal here who could read between the lines and reached out and just about single hanedly helped lift me out of a depression mode. I met her at your site. YOUR SITE!
I also was struggling with one of my children and his special needs (aspergers). I met a gal here who has a nephew with the same needs. She laughed with me and cried with me and we have grown very close. I met her here at your site YOUR SITE!
When we thought my mom had spinal cancer the gals here were terrific in there support. They laughed and cried with me and helped me get thru it. These are the chicks on YOUR SITE!
My sister Jiff: I wrote a post about being flippin mad...it is about 1 or two pages back. It had 50 replies to it. BUT what you don't see is what happened behind the scenes. One gal let me pick her nursing brain, one gal cut thru miles of red tape ..she made 7 phone calls. A gal in chat offered me her e-mail addy, One gal came to visit my sister. And then there were the wonderful souls who sent me notes of encouragement or called and who let me pour my heart out to them. One of these gals knows how much trouble I physically get in when I stuff my feelings. I met them right here...at YOUR SITE.
So my fluffy little Mother Hens, I am very grateful to you! Please do not let the nay sayers get you discouraged. What you have here is a wonderful place, built by wonderfull, loving Hens.
Are you old enough to remember this song from the Music Man?
Pick a little talk a little pick a little talk a little cheep cheep cheep talk a lot pick a little more!!!
and with harmony....
Good night Ladies....
keep on chirping!!!!
yours in FLUFF!
peach
scooby2
09-07-2001, 09:37 PM
I cannot describe how disgusted I am at the Clines, ridiculous letter.....how stupid are they. This site has 14,000 members, thousands of which have lost weight....Only an unahppy, insensitive person would do what that person did. Most probably they were trying to get thereaction they got...total contempt and disgust....
Jennifer, Amy Sue....you are heros to many!!!!:D
dottiejon
09-08-2001, 04:50 PM
I can only echo what the others have said.
This is a complicated struggle, most of us don't really know what our weight problems are from, it's like blind trial and error most of the time. We just keep trying. Having others there to give help or just talk is the only way to keep going.
I am convinced that I would have been gaining weight and giving up a dozen times over the past 18 months since I've been at 3FC.
Thank you for all your hard work, and for sharing this real problem so openly and honestly. It is that leadership that allows the rest of us to be honest with ourselves and each others in ways we may not be able to in our everyday lifel
I know by now that our Mother Hens know how we feel about them so I am un-sticking this. A wonderful thread, MamaJ! Thanks to everyone who posted.
And feel free to haul this up and add to it.
Suzanne 3FC
09-11-2001, 07:34 AM
Thank you all so much! We've been flabbergasted at the amount of support from everyone both here and via email!
To LindaBC, you doubted that the Clines would notice what you've all said here, but don't be so sure... the email was addressed to boardhelp@3fatchicks.com which is only found on the forum.
I'm not completely sure about them. I realize what they said was very crude and it hurt a lot. But part of me wonders if it was an attempt at "tough love" perhaps. While their letter didn't have the effect they hoped, the way it has generated this level of support has done more for us than you can realize. I'm starting to find my way again, and for this I have everyone here to thank :)
I've been searching for info on depression and weight gain, and have seen several references to going low carb as a way to bounce back. So you may see more of me down here at some point!
Thank you all again,
Suzanne :)
Tippy
09-11-2001, 08:39 AM
Early this morning, I was thinking of that letter from the Clines. I think for some reason, they wanted to hurt and discourage Suzanne and Jennifer and,perhaps, close down this site. Well, it certainly backfired, didn't it! They have no idea how much loyalty there is in the "members" of 3FC! We may never meet face-to-face, but just try to be mean to one of us and we rally together!
The Clines can go on with their sick and twisted lives, forever wondering why they are so unhappy!
I feel like I know so many of you since I arrived here 20 months ago! I remember all the laughter and the tears too. I'm so proud to be a small part of 3FC. God bless!