LA Weight Loss - Please refresh my memory on gold w/o lites

08-09-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm looking for the Gold without Lites plan portions. I have been using the lites since I started but I'm thinking about going to an all food plan to cut back on sugar. I asked this question several months ago and I got the answer then but I can't find it now. Can someone please refresh my memory on this? Thanks.

08-09-2006, 01:48 PM
Gold w/out lites: First up your protein by 2oz. (Beef would be 6oz, chicken would be 8oz)

08-09-2006, 02:27 PM
:) Thanks Evette. I appreciate your quick response!

08-09-2006, 08:39 PM
Isn't gold without lites just purple?

08-10-2006, 12:35 AM
I'm a little confused. I'm gold with lites (actually only getting one). Do they only add the extra ounces in the protein servings and one veggie? Doesn't the lites, if you're eating two bars a day, total around 380 calories? How does an added veggie and a little more oz. in protein compare in calories?


08-10-2006, 01:08 AM
Patty - I've been confused on that same fact myself. I'm gold with lites and was told if you cut back to just 1 lite a day, you don't get to add anything; you have to give up both lites to add the protein and veggie that Evette shared above. If you tell the folks at LAWL that this doesn't make sense, they will more than likely tell you that it's not just the caloric count they take into consideration, but it's also the chemical balancing of the proteins/veggie mixture. I wish they could draw me a picture, because it really doesn't make much sense. I guess that's why I continue to bars...not only do I like them, but I feel like the trade off isn't really worth it. Of course, I'm not losing as fast as I'd like and may need to give up the bars one of these days.

08-10-2006, 09:07 AM
Patty--you are not alone in your confusion! I'm with Joni--I'd rather have the bars than the piddly "make up" they allow. Plus, I really like have my "treats" sometimes it's lites, lunas, or Kashis--I'm not picky

08-10-2006, 09:11 AM
I thought you just moved up a plan too, but remember that Katie isn't doing Lites, and she's on Red...

I would talk with COD to see what they would say, but maybe Katie will "weigh in" (lol) on this topic too, because she's less than 25 lbs from her goal too.

08-10-2006, 09:25 AM
Isn't gold without lites just purple?

I think it is just purple. So confusing! I agree with you gals...the calories from the absence of the bars does not exactly equal the substitution of 1 more veggie and 2 extra ounces of protein. But that's what I've been doing. :?: It's working. I'm down another pound this morning! 154!! whoo-hoo!

08-10-2006, 09:30 AM
I am really confused now, i thought the bars count as 1 starch 1/2 protein don't they??? i haven't been steady on my bars i take them one day and just forget about them the next but iam still losing weight so i must be doing something right i guess.

08-10-2006, 09:38 AM
Evette - WOO HOO!!! WTG Girl!!! You were stuck for so many weeks, but your persistence is paying off. You are an excellent example and inspiration to all for riding out a plateau. I will remember you the next time I am stuck!

08-10-2006, 10:01 AM
Thanks Cassi!! Can you believe I'm losing weight while it's TOM!?! Go figure, but I'll take it. You're doing great too! High-five!

08-10-2006, 11:20 AM
In my COD the policy is if you don't do lites they move you up a plan. Gold to Purple, Purple to Red, red to red 1, red1 to red 2

08-10-2006, 11:21 AM
Winkie - Congrats again on the weight loss its so great to break through a plateau!!

Repo girl
08-10-2006, 11:43 AM
I started on red without bars, and I am still on red without bars. My COD says that more than likely I will enter maintainence still on red. I hope so. This is truly a plan I could follow forever, no problem. As far as subbing or not subbing the bars, just realize that not getting enough calories will seriously delay your weight loss, so if you do stop losing, I would certainly be moving up a plan. To me, I like more food so that I am not getting too hungry and binging.

08-10-2006, 09:42 PM

During your time on this plan, did you find times when you couldn't get all the foods in. I do and I have such a hard time forcing myself to eat a fruit or something so that I can check off the circle. I'm just not hungry. It's 7:40 here and I'm currently short a dairy, fat, and two lites. In the past I've had the problem of not being able to fill myself up, so this feeling is strange.


08-11-2006, 01:08 AM
Hi Patty
I've only been OP for two weeks and I feel the same way most of the time. I'm on red plan and often I can't get everything in. My COD commented on it the last time I went in but I refuse to eat if I'm not hungry.

08-11-2006, 04:22 AM
Patty and Sandie - Most of us went through this at the beginning of the program. After my first 7 weeks or so, I stalled. I moved my fruits up to where I have one for breakfast (I do this by STARTING with the fruit so I get it in, and then one for mid-morning and one with lunch (Starting the same way). If I didn't get my mid-morning fruit, which is 99% of the time, I eat it with lunch, or sometimes mid-afternoon. COD said to have your fruit early since it has sugars and was stalling me. Once you lose your 1/2P, you will find it easier to get the dairy in since you will have it with breakfast a lot. I found it easier to add cheese to something, or have a string cheese as a snack or with my meal. I usually end my day with a Lite because it has become my dessert, and a way to signal to myself that I am done eating for the day. The other lite is my mid-afternoon treat around 3:30. I have also found that spreading my meals out and eating little bits consistently keeps my blood sugar level. I don't "crash" in the afternoon, and I don't come home from work to raid the cabinet while I cook dinner (another good use for 1/2 dairy string cheese).

Just remember that your body needs the calories. You may not have a problem right now, but if and when your weight loss stalls, you may need to add calories, not cut more. The program has you on a certain number of exchanges for a reason.

I decided at the beginning that since I am spending lots and lots of $$$ for the program, I am going to "buy into it wholeheartedly" and do exactly what they say. I am going to work with the program, not fight it. I did this for a few reasons. (1) If I am spending the $$$, I'd better do the program right; (2) If I work the program, then if I don't lose weight, then it is not my fault, and I can get a refund; (3) This was my last shot before considering surgery, and I promised DH I would commit to a program for 6 months.

I have been doing this for four months, and I have lost 36 pounds. I have tweaked things here and there, and have been rewarded with results. Surgery is no longer an option. A lot of us will gripe about the COD counselors, but the truth is, LAWL is a business, and they are not non-profit. Some counselors could receive better training, and less focus on sales, but in general their hearts are in the right place and they are trying to help. You are paying them for their time, so if you aren't going to at least listen to their suggestions, why waste your money? I have found that the people who get the most out of the program are the people who put the most in. It is hard to let go of all of our past thinking about what works, but when I joined LAWL I knew I was going to do it differently. I had done WW so many times, I could run a meeting probably better than them. And, with WW in mind, the phrase that kept sticking in my head when I joined LAWL (for the first and only time), was, "IF YOU DO WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE, YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS GOTTEN". I didn't want to join WW again, lose 10 lbs. and then quit. Yes it is more limited, but maybe I shouldn't drink 5 light beers, count it as 10 pts and be on program. I needed the extra support of 3x WI and limiting my food choices until those choices became habits.

Sorry to go on so long, but I thought you might appreciate some insight from someone who has been where you are quite recently.