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anirtak
07-19-2006, 12:46 AM
Here's the thing, I am about to vent a little here so prepare... I have been thinking a lot about this weight I carry around and of course about the food I am putting in my body. But with everything I have to worry about in my life I don't, definitely don't, want to get carried away on a "diet". :mad:

I want to enjoy eating healthy :) , I don't want to moan and groan about the hardship of eating a boiled egg every morning! So what is my point???? It is more an idea actually...I want to cook and eat and I want to enjoy food more now than I ever did before. I don't, let me repeat don't, want to be scared of food or count every calorie. The problem with me is that I have disrespected my body enough by feeding it junk aka overprocessed crap.

So here is what I have done, I am out to find the best healthiest food out there to put in my body, not food that will just help me lose weight, because come on this is not about eating rice cakes. Healthy means good for your heart, your mind, and your body (no insult to the rice cake just not my thing). This is about what we put in our body and how much we put in it. I am willing to work on both, but I am not willing to sacrifice the enjoyment of food when there are great options that taste great.

So if anyone is interested in talking about great food and tasty weight loss then lets go...:carrot:


CJ :)
07-19-2006, 01:28 AM
I only have one question - is it possible to insult a rice cake? I mean, the nicest thing you can say about it is that it tastes like packing peanuts..... ;)

andoreth
07-19-2006, 01:33 AM
Hmm, well, by creative and (sometimes) authoritarian use of portion control, matched with a few of the more basic calorie and fat-reducing cooking techniques (only those that do not have a detrimental effect on the quality of the dish), I find that there are no recipies that I am not able to cook and eat while still losing weight.

Examples that often make my plate: creamy chicken lasagna, chicken and tuna casseroles, runzas (beef, cabbage, and cheese baked in a bread dough), chicken cordon bleu, crab rangoon, quesedillas, brownies, ice cream, cakes, pies. and on and on. I also eat plenty of veggies, but I wouldn't say that any of those dishes would be shocking to a traditional diet plan. And, of course, there are a lot of main dishes, sides and desserts that are delicious and even easier on the "calorie bank account".

What I have done, though, is switch from a diet almost completely comprised of restaurant provided food (and pre-packaged meals) to one that is made at home. I have the control over what is put in the dish, and the size of the portion put on the plate. And yes, the food can be controlled while still being tasty!


anirtak
07-19-2006, 01:41 AM
Is it possible to avoid the struggle by eating great food and still losing weight. Portion control is key but I can eat a great salad with balsamic and olive oil and not feel like I surrendered anything. I can eat a terrific stir fry and enjoy every minute. I think it is possible to lose weight and eat great, I want that for my life. I will lose this weight I really know that I will, I will because at the end of the day it is about being healthy and happy, happy about what I put in my body and healthy because I put it there.

BlueToBlue
07-19-2006, 03:15 AM
I have found that I have given up a lot of the recipes I used to make before I was counting calories. There are a lot of things on Andoreth's list that I don't think I could fit into my calorie budget. I look at every lasagna recipe I can find, but I have yet to find one that is low enough in calories (my dinner needs to be under 400 calories per serving) and has a portion size that seems like it would be filling. I only eat 1400 calories per day, so there's just not a lot of room for pasta and for desserts. I have a section in my recipe file for "retired" recipes--i.e., recipes I used to make but don't anymore.

But, I have replaced the recipes I've given up with new recipes, many of which I really like. In fact, my SO commented to me the other day that one benefit of my calorie restriction is that I've found a lot of new recipes that we both really like. I let my subscription to Everyday Foods lapsed and instead now subscribe to Cooking Light.

I do count every calorie, though. I tried to lose weight by just focusing on eating healthy foods and it didn't work for me--not even a little. I also eat a lot less pasta, a lot less cheese, and a lot less baked goods and almost no desserts. But I've found other foods, like polenta, that I really like. Energy bars and low calorie pudding have become my substitute for sweets. Eventually, when I get to maintanence, I expect to add some of these foods back to my diet in moderation.

I eat a lot more fresh fruits and vegetables. The farmers market is part of my weekly shopping and I could not survive without it. I don't eat foods that I don't like (well, there's one energy bar that I eat because it is low in calories and high in protein, but the taste is marginal) and there are a lot of foods that fit easily into my calorie budget that taste really good to me. In fact, I feel like I enjoy food more. I don't know if it is because I'm not allowing myself to get overly full and I'm frequently hungry by the time I'm eating, or if it because of all the rain we had in CA this spring, but the fruit and vegetables I've been getting at the farmers market seem to taste better than in past years.

- Barbara

nelie
07-19-2006, 09:38 AM
I eat food I love every day. I love the taste, the texture and what it does for my body. I enjoy food now more than I ever have.

Grilled chicken (no skin) - love it and even can portion control myself with it
Brussel sprouts - love them
Zucchini - my favorite, especially grilled.
Tomatoes - I can eat these by themselves, love them
Cucumbers - good to eat alone or with other veggies
Sweet Bell peppers - add some hummus and yum
Pickles - nice salty treat, especially good pickles (no vlassic, I'm talking deli pickles here)
Fruit - I used to gorge myself on fruit, but find eating 2-3 servings a day, I really enjoy it and take the time to enjoy it. Blueberries, strawberries, plums, apples, kiwi, nectarines...
Nonfat plain yogurt - enjoy it alone or with fruit, a nice sour taste
Natural peanut butter - Heavenly... need portion control here but it is oh so good
Chocolate - Super dark chocolate, occassionally. I can't express the joy I have when I eat just one square of a dark chocolate bar. I savor it and love it. More than I ever enjoyed an entire chocolate bar.

I could go on and on and on...

I eat very simply though. I have a rice cooker which I make rice once or twice a week (leftover rice is reheated throughout the week). I steam veggies or sautee them in water. I have a pressure cooker which I cook meat or sometimes I'll oven bake meat. I would say that I stay away from recipes, except once in a while when I use my crockpot. I love food, I've always loved food and I think I will always love food.

Glory87
07-19-2006, 10:29 AM
I absolutely love the whole foods I eat and don't miss processed crap at all. Check out my Fitday, I love everything I eat and don't feel deprived. In fact, I feel radiant with health.

This was absolutely key for me - this is for the rest of my life. I couldn't possibly give up carbs my whole life, or live on ice berg salads and cottage cheese.

I have lost a lot of weight several times in my life. My goal was always to LOSE WEIGHT. When I hit my goal weight, I was done and could go back to eating the unhealthy crap that made me heavy in the first place. This time, my goal was to be HEALTHY - and there is nothing to stop, I want to eat this way to be healthy for the rest of my life. When I hit my goal weight, what I was eating didn't change, I just increased calories. I didn't make up the caloric difference with milkshakes and french fries, I just added MORE nutritionally powerful foods to what I was eating.

Here is my list of favorite healthy foods:

Fresh fruit - especially pomegranates, raspberries, cherries, tangelos and mangos

Hummus

Non fat latte

A really good stir fry over brown rice with lots of vegetables (orange pepper, shitake mushrooms, broccoli) and tofu

Baked sweet potatoes - in the oven, baked so long the sugar in the skin starts to caramalize (sp?)

Whole wheat tortilla, smeared with peanut butter, nuked for 30 seconds, wrapped around a banana

Dried granny smith apple rings from Trader Joe's (like candy)

Super fresh yellowtail sashimi

Home made guacamole with lots of lemon juice, black pepper, fresh tomatoes and red onions

Vine ripe tomatoes, just picked, still warm from the sun, sliced and sprinkled with a little salt

Whole cloves of roasted garlic

Trail mix - dried fruit and nuts, yum!

Waffles and natural peanut butter

Baked apple with blueberries

Warm, salty edamame

Red wine

Greek yogurt and blackberries (especially with a drizzle of dark honey)

Grilled vegetables - especially onions, asparagus, corn on the cob

Home made pizza with whole wheat crust, tomato sauce, spinach leaves, sun dried tomatoes, mushrooms, black olives and feta cheese

Cottage cheese with pineapple

Dark chocolate

Crusty bread dipped into olive oil and basalmic vinegar

mauvaisroux
07-19-2006, 10:31 AM
For the record, I hate rice cakes and egg whites and margarine! :p

I don't see the point if eating things I don't like.

My philosophy is to stick to eating fresh food and avoid processed food as much as possible.

This means no fast food, no frozen dinners, no pre-fab food out of a packet or box, no storebought cookies or other junkie items.

If you make it at home then at least you know what is going into it and there are no hidden fats, sugars or added chemicals. I refuse to eat mediocre or food just because it say's it's low fat or diet on the label. In fat about 2 years ago my DH and I rebelled against the low fat food industry because we were sick of eating diet food that didn't taste that great so we just switched over to eating smaller amounts of real food or making our own at home.

My husband and I rarely eat out now and when we do we pick a restaurant that serves really good food like and Indian or Vietnamese place.

We both work and have active social lives so we work with simple recipes with few ingredients for weekday meals and save the more time- consuming dinners for Sunday. If the recipe takes more than 30 minutes to cook, then I don't bother with it. :lol:

Making small changes in cooking methods, types and amounts of oils that you use, cutting back on salt and portion control all contribute to healthy cooking. Most of the recipes I use are low fat but if I see an ingredient I don't want to use then I leave it out or substitute something else in it's place. A couple of times a recipe has called for 2 tbs of oil to stirfry ingredients and I knew I could get away with less so I only used 1tbs. I always make a new recipe exactly as is then make adjustments to my own tastes the second time I make it.

Right now we are experimenting with vegetarian recipes and so far 5 out of five have turned out well. :)

I think this works for us because we menu plan and build our shopping list around a week's worth of meals and if an item is not on the list or we don't have a plan for it then we don't buy it. This reduces overbuying and wasting fruit and veggies and stops us from impulse buying things. We only buy what we need and incorporate healthy snacks into our plan. We also both brown bag our lunches to work except for Friday which is our lunch out with co-workers day. We've also save money doing this.

Glory87
07-19-2006, 10:35 AM
If you're really interested in nutrionally powerful foods for long term health and disease preservation, join us over in this thread where we are talking about a book called Super Foods: 14 Foods That Can Change Your Life (this is the book that changed my life):

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88688

If you want, you can also read my very long weight loss journey thread. It specifically talks about how I switched from processed to whole foods and the results (warning, it is long!)

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84601

Glory87
07-19-2006, 10:44 AM
I think this works for us because we menu plan and build our shopping list around a week's worth of meals and if an item is not on the list or we don't have a plan for it then we don't buy it. This reduces overbuying and wasting fruit and veggies and stops us from impulse buying things. We only buy what we need and incorporate healthy snacks into our plan. We also both brown bag our lunches to work except for Friday which is our lunch out with co-workers day. We've also save money doing this.

I do exactly the same thing. I menu plan on Sunday, look up recipes, make shopping lists based on those recipes and then only buy the stuff on my list for healthy dinners/lunches/snacks for the week. Thursday is my lunch with coworkers day :)

anirtak
07-19-2006, 11:10 AM
Sounds like we are all on the same page about food. The fat free industry is a gimmick and it sucks many people in, I heard recently that artificially produced fat free foods are not good because you lose a lot of the nutritional value. I along with most of you believe in moderation. I have gone to whole grains, and natural yogurts, I have cut out most desserts but believe in having a small piece of chocolate everyday. I make a mean salad, and soup is a staple in our home. I really believe that if you look at your life you can afford food that is great for you, especially when you cut out the fast food and morning lattes. Soup is one way I stay on a budget. Lets keep the food lists going because I am getting great ideas already! Some of the things I make include:

Baked chicken with tomatillos (can tomatillos) and a little water, I added brown rice to it last night.

Mixed greens with balsamic and EVOO (dressing goes a long way here), this is a great salad to add mandaran oranges, strawberries, or berries too.

I also do stir fry with brown rice...mmmm

Cucumber or watermelon with lime salt and chili powder...a power punch of flavor

Hummus, love hummus with toasted pita or rice crackers

smoothies, or an orange julius (4-6 oz of juice goes along way)

I am now a fan of turkey bacon

Chicken soup with roasted vegetables

Egg white omelet (add one yolk, spinach and touch of feta or olives)



Glory87 your list of foods closely resembles my own that its almost freaky. :dizzy:
Nelie, eat some brussel sprouts for me because I abhor them!:^:
Thanks to everyone!:p

mauvaisroux
07-19-2006, 12:44 PM
My food list:

Broccoli (a superfood :) )
Cauliflower
Potatoes (once a week)
Green beans
Asparagus
Tomatoes (another good one)
Romaine lettuce
Leaf lettuce
"Spring Mix" greens
Spinach
Cucumbers
Radishes
Peppers (red, yellow, green, orange)
Red onions
Bean Sprouts
Alfalfa Sprouts
Yellow onions
Shallots
Garlic
Green peas, fresh or frozen
Snow peas
Carrots
Beets
Avocado

Grapefruit (red)
Oranges (madarins are my fave)
Bananas
Assorted Berries (in season)
Pineapple
Kiwi
Mango
Cantaloupe
Honeydew Melon
Grapes (seedless)
Apples (granny smith and Macs)
Cherries (in season)
Pomegranates
Pears
Dark plums
Peaches
Nectaries

Nuts for snacking and to use in recipes:
Walnuts (whole)
Pecans (whole)
Hazelnuts (whole)
Unsalted cashews

Pantry Staples:
Canned tuna
Lentils
Chickpeas
Tahini
Navy/canelli beans
Dried split peas
Kidney beans
Barley
Whole wheat couscous
Basmati rice
Brown rice
Whole wheat pastas
Whole wheat/grain breads
Whole wheat pita bread
Bran flakes
Scottish oatmeal (I think it is the similar to steel cut oats)
Canned tomatoes & paste
Vegetarian soup stock base
Whole wheat all purpose flour
Whole wheat bread flour
Yeast
Powdered milk(for bread machine)
Raisins
Dried Apricots
Dates
Semi-sweet chocolate chips
Olive oil
Assorted vinegars (Red Wine, White Wine, Balsamic)
Light Soya sauce
Low sodium teriaki sauce
Chinese oyster sauce

Must have spices:
Nutmeg
Allspice
Cinnamon
Cloves
Bouquet Garni
Madras curry powder
Garam Masala (Indian Spice blend)
Chinese Five Spice Blend
Tumeric
Fennel
Cumin
Mustard seeds
Lemon pepper
Rosemary,Thyme, ect.
Garlic powder
Hot chili paste
Chili powder
Smoked Paprika
Dried chilis
Various hot sauces
Black peppercorns and peppermill
Coarse sea salt and salt mill
Honey

Dairy etc.:
2% milk
1/2 &1/2 cream
yogurt
strong flavoured cheeses
butter

Meat:
Turkey bacon (occasionally)
Organic beef
Organic poultry
Salmon
Fish sticks for hubby (only way he will eat fish :rolleyes: )
Frozen Shrimp
Eggs - free range, grain fed

* Note we haven't been buying meat lately as we are eating more vegetarian meals now.

Other:
Spanish peanuts
Peanuts in the shell
Tostitos
Salsa (we make our own sometimes)
Popcorn for air popping
Popcorn spices
Sunflower seeds
Organic dark chocolate
Granola bars
Jello mix
Pudding mix
The occasional tin of rice pudding
Natural peanut butter from the health food store
Pure fruit jams or homemade preserves
Wheat crackers
Good coffee
Decaf & herbal teas
Crystal Light
Bottled flavoured water
Birds' custard mix
Club Soda
Rose's Lime Cordial

In the summer I have an herb garden and in the winter I plant herbs in pots on the kitchen windowsill.

My favorites:
Dill
Basil
Flat Leaf Parsley
Chives
Cilantro
Mint

mauvaisroux
07-19-2006, 12:58 PM
My favorite cooking appliances:

Vegetable/rice steamer
Food Processor/blender
Mini-chopper
Stove top Wok
Breadmaker
Corningware casserole dishes
Crockpot (circa 1970's handed down by my auntie :lol: )
George Forman grill
Air popcorn maker
Good quality chef's knife
Freezer bag machine

Anyone else have items they love?

nelie
07-19-2006, 01:08 PM
Wow Mauv, I don't think I could list everything I eat, that is a pretty good list.

I have a rice cooker and I use a stovetop pan for steaming. I also use a crockpot. I have a foreman grill I use occassionally. I also have to say I love knives. I use my bamboo cutting boards every day.

I've also been thinking about eating less meat and eating other sources of proteins. My only issue is I don't know how to do it healthfully so I have to do a little research.

I forgot to add that I've been using a meal type shake in the morning called "ultimate meal" (www.ultimatelife.com). Even though I kind of think it tastes like nothing, my BF thinks it tastes like lima beans. Basically it has a balance of carbs, protein, fiber and healthy fats. I mostly enjoy eating it because it is full of nutrients and good stuff.

I also eat 1% cottage cheese as one of my protein sources.

Glory87
07-19-2006, 01:21 PM
I've also been thinking about eating less meat and eating other sources of proteins. My only issue is I don't know how to do it healthfully so I have to do a little research.

Using vegetables sources as protein can be a little tricky, since vegetable protein rarely is a "complete" protein - providing all the necessary amino acids.

(snipped from a website)

Dietary proteins are categorized into two groups: complete proteins, and incomplete proteins. Complete proteins contain all the essential amino acids, whereas incomplete proteins contain only some of the essential amino acids. Food that contains complete protein are meat, eggs, dairy, and soy products (e.g. tofu).

Proteins are made from amino acids. Our body is able to synthesize some amino acids, but there are certain amino acids that our body cannot synthesize so we must consume them in our diet. These amino acids, termed "essential" amino acids, can be taken from eating a variety of vegetables or from tofu. Animal foods such as meat, dairy, eggs, poultry, and fish are complete proteins because they contain sufficient levels of all essential amino acids.

Food that has incomplete protein are most vegetables, grains, and legumes.
Plant proteins tend to be limited in one or more essential amino acids. For example, beans are low in the amino acid lysine, while rice is rich in lysine (quinoa is a good example of a vegetable protein that is "complete").

Vegetarians must eat protein foods that have complementary amino acid levels so that the essential amino acids missing from one protein food can be supplied by another. It was once believed that complementary proteins had to be consumed at every meal. We now know that intentional combining at each meal is not necessary.

As long as you eat a variety of plant foods, such as brown rice, corn, nuts, seeds, whole grains, and wheat within each 24 hour period, your protein needs should easily be met.

Here's a little vegetarian protein chart for you to look at:

http://www.vegparadise.com/protein.html#Charts

GreatBigMonsterMomma
07-19-2006, 08:43 PM
My eating plan is Sugar Busters, so as long as I am careful with portions, I can eat just about whatever I want. My favorite "restaurant" is the Wilbur & Orville Wright Cafe and Grill (I know, a mouthful) on Hickam AFB. Our family of five (four who actually eat food ;)) can eat there for about $25. On base restaurants are one of the underrated perks of the military. It's right across from the O club, and so obviously has the same cooks, but I digress. My point was, I can get their pot roast and a double side of vegetables, and as long as I cut the fat off the roast I'm good to go. They do look at us funny for turning down a potato, but in Hawaii folks eat rice 3x a day! (Sticky white rice, which has a very high GI.)

I am most interested right now in relearning my hunger/satiety signals. It has weightloss slow going, but I'm not gonna be skinny & I don't want to be. I have a healthy body fat percentage right now even if I'm technically overweight. I'm good at eyeballing portions, but breastfeeding means that sometimes I need extra. :)

When we get back to Texas, I'm campaigning to get a little piece of land out in the country & start homesteading. That's what'll really make me happy. I never ate vegetables as often as when I grew my own as a kid. I much prefer my veggies raw.

I think that there are a couple of things that work together with food and dieting. One thing is we have been so conditioned through marketing to think that we have to eat really bland, tasteless stuff in order to lose weight. On a very basic level, and this is a matter of biology, we like stuff that is sweet and fatty. If you look at breastmilk, the ideal first food, it is sweet (it tastes like a vanilla milkshake, really) and it's got a high fat content. So from the start we're taught to like that.

But even breastmilk doesn't have the sugar content of the stuff we're taught to love, or the fat content. So what tastes good to us are things like chocolate cake, fried chicken, etc. And to lose weight so many of us go completely overboard in the other direction and cut out all the good stuff, or eat the packaged diet foods...And it's just doomed to failure, because it's not what we're born to enjoy, and most of us can't eat that sort of thing for long! It is possible to retrain your palate to enjoy much less sweet offerings (I couldn't eat the typical Yoplait anymore if you paid me to) and to not like fried things...but there's always going to be a yearning for what's "forbidden."

You can't beat biology.

almostheaven
07-19-2006, 09:57 PM
I always eat food I love. I haven't cut out "anything". What I've done is changed my daily diet to whole grains, lean meats, and good foods. But if I'm out and there's no whole wheat bread, sometimes I'll skip bread, sometimes I'll have just a small bit of it. Someone mentioned not finding low cal lasagna. I love lasanga, and have it. I just have a large salad before it. Since my husband won't eat any of it (whole wheat - blech! - is his motto), I don't fix it. I instead will eat that in a Smart Ones dinner (under 400 calories - though don't recall exactly how many). Now that my son's worked his way into solids, I may be able to start cooking lasagna again in the near future. Right now we're just concentrating on the Kraft Super Mac & Cheese (whole wheat).

There's never been a whole lot of foods I didn't like (except liver, pickled pigs feet, frogs legs, cow's tongue, and buttermilk - all staples of my family - blech!). The only things I really learned to give up was daily diet sodas in favor of water and white bread, pasta and rice in favor of whole grains. I will have the super mac & cheese, or a potato or rice, but I have small portions of them and larger portions of veggies, with a normal portion of a lean meat (grilled), and perhaps a small piece of a whole wheat bread.

I don't get burned out on boiled eggs for breakfast, because I rarely have them. Sometimes I'll take the boiled egg and add soy mayo and spread the egg salad on a mini whole wheat bagel. Or I cover that bagel with light strawberry cream cheese. Or I put a scrambled egg on there with a slice of cheese and maybe a piece of Canadian bacon. Other days I have cream of wheat or oats with raisins or bananas, perhaps with brown sugar or cinamon. And some mornings I just have fruit and yogurt. If I make breakfast boring, I'm going to tire of it and stray.

Even if you're working and don't have time in the mornings, egg salad can be prepared the night before. You can also premix scrambled egg or omlet and have it ready to cook (you can even fix it in the microwave). Instant oatmeal doesn't take about 10 seconds to pour on water and 2 minutes in the micro. Same with cream of wheat. And yogurt and fruit? No prep time at all. ;)

For dinners, I usually keep a batch of grilled meats. I break out the George Foreman and grill up fish and chicken to last several days. And if you've never seen the new Birdseye Steamfresh veggies, you really need to check them out. ;) Add a side of brown minute rice in the micro and jazz it up with some seasonings (Mrs. Dash, parsley, maybe some bullion).

I hate to cook. So my grill and microwave are my buddies. And cooking just doesn't take that long anymore.

almostheaven
07-19-2006, 09:59 PM
If you look at breastmilk, the ideal first food, it is sweet (it tastes like a vanilla milkshake, really) and it's got a high fat content.
Ok, I've never gotten the nerve to actually try it. But according to the cast of Friends, it tastes like canteloupe juice. :joker:

anirtak
07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
That is quite the list, thanks! :D You mention sunflower seeds which is great, I like to toast them, grind them, and add to soup. It gives it a nuttiness that is wonderful.

The vegetarian thing is something that I have gradually been moving towards. :cp: I can't say that I ever see myself giving up chicken or fish but I have cut out 90% of the red meat and I have incorporated many vegetarian meals during the week. I feel much better.

Lately I have spent less time eating but more time in the kitchen. It is a overwhelming feeling to change what you put in your body but its also very liberating. I don't do much of the low fat products and I am curious how many of you find that helpful. I have been replacing high fat products but things like cheese and yogurt ect... starts getting tricky. Can you simply make the usual with the usual ingredients and just portion control? I am curious how others deal with this dilemma. We have tended to be a sourcream/cheese/heavy cream kind of family if you know what I mean.

Glory87 thanks for that info!:bravo:

anirtak
07-19-2006, 11:39 PM
Almost Heaven I am going to try the soy mayo :goodvibes , I didn't know that it existed! I have struggled to get a morning breakfast routein going. On a normal pre-diet day my breakfast is coffee and occasionally some crap breakfast sandwich from a fast food place. Now, I have no energy :( until about midday and I can only attribute it to the low carb low sugar dieting. Many say my lack of breakfast is too blame. I picked up some Kashi cereal and that has helped a little.

I love to cook and now that I have to think about what I eat much more I am spending more time actually cooking. I have been trying things that I never have before just because why not make this "diet" experience fun, right?!!

Anyway I will try the egg and soy mayo thing this week, thanks!

I am leaving on a trip for three days (first trip since diet) and I am wondering about tips when going out to eat, what does everyone do? We went to Dave Barbecue the other day and I was lost the salad was horrible!

Glory87
07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
Can you simply make the usual with the usual ingredients and just portion control? I am curious how others deal with this dilemma. We have tended to be a sourcream/cheese/heavy cream kind of family if you know what I mean.


That's an interesting question. When I decided to change how I ate forever, I knew I had to like the foods I ate or I would never stick with it. For dinner, I ate fairly well, lots of curries, stir fries, pasta dishes, quesadillas, enchilaladas - I was practically a vegetarian (never bought meat for the home). I made adjustments to favorite recipes - less cheese, less oil, more vegetables (wilting spinach in pasta sauce for example) and retired a few (I used to make a great fried eggplant with blue cheese sauce).

For breakfast and lunch, I made big changes because I used to eat JUNK. Donuts, muffins and full fat lattes with whipped cream for breakfast, pizza for lunch.


I honestly do not feel deprived and have very few cravings (usually for steak, which is weird or peanut butter, which is not). I can sit in front of a plate of cookies or baked goods and not want any.

I do believe that our bodies are hard-wired to want fat and sugar - energy that is easily stored in times of famine. If you start to restrict calories, your body can start clamoring for what will replenish the loss the quickest. I was careful not to overly restrict calories and I eat a LOT of whole, healthy foods every 2 hours now (including a good ratio of protein, carbs and healthy fats). Maybe I don't have weird cravings because my body isn't missing anything?

Glory87
07-20-2006, 12:00 AM
I am leaving on a trip for three days (first trip since diet) and I am wondering about tips when going out to eat, what does everyone do? We went to Dave Barbecue the other day and I was lost the salad was horrible!

Ah travel. Did I mention I'm a corporate trainer that travels quite a bit for work? This year I have already spent 4 weeks in Asia and 4 weeks in Valencia, CA.

I have to do this forever, so I have to be flexible. A good example is this fall. I was delivering training in Australia. I was staying in a hotel, the vendor facility was out in the middle of nowhere. I had no way to pack lunch and no way to get to a healthy lunch. The vendor facility said they would arrange lunch for the week. Mon and Wed were greasy sandwiches with butter on the bread (ugh - thanks Aussies!), Tuesday and Thursday were Dominos pizza (2 of the 3 times I've had pizza since I changed my life).

I ate the greasy sandwiches and the pizza and nothing bad happened. I didn't gain any weight, I enjoyed the pizza (not so much the buttery sandwiches). A couple of weeks ago, my work had fabulous snacks with a meeting - chocolate dipped fruit, hummus, cheese, crackers. I skipped the chips and big ole chocolate chip cookies, but couldn't resist the chocolate fruit, hummus, cheese, crackers. I put little bites of each "treat" item on my plate, filled the rest of the plate with veggies and limited myself to ONE trip. Once again, nothing bad happened from eating brie and crackers, a piece of pita with humus and 1 chocolate covered strawberry, 1 chocolate dipped apricot and 1 chocolate dipped pineapple.

Find out if your hotel has a mini frig or microwave, these can make a big difference. I normally baggie up quick oats and dried blueberries. I take a bowl and a spoon and I have a healthy breakfast everyday. Maybe your hotel will offer continental breakfast, usually they have at least fruit, cereal/skim milk. The hotel in Valencia had a great granola, yogurt combo that I loved. I was also able to snag fruit to eat the rest of the day from the continental breakfast bar.

Apples and oranges are easy to carry around. I also like Odwalla bars, trail mix, soy chips, etc. When dining out, I just try to make the best decisions possible. I don't eat out of the bread basket, and stay far away from the chips at a Mexican place. Grilled fish/chicken is a fairly safe bet, don't be afraid to special order (ask for no butter, double the veggie side dish instead of rice/potato).

My overall rule is - try to do the best I can. Try to plan as much as I can, but don't freak out if life doesn't go according to plan. Life is going to be messy and unpredictable. I am going to eat things that I don't plan on eating. I will try to avoid my personal "big bads" (soda, fast foods, fried foods, packaged baked goods), but I need to remain flexible with the rest. I did not get to 200 lbs because of one work trip, I was 200 lbs because I consistently ate badly, every day, nearly every meal. Now, I consistently eat well, nearly every meal. I look at it like this - when I was heavy, one grilled chicken salad with dressing on the side would not have made me thin. Now that I'm maintaining my weight loss, one greasy pizza lunch will not make me heavy.

About breakfast, I absolutely love breakfast. My absolutely favorite breakfast is a whole wheat tortilla, smeared with natural peanut butter, heated in the microwave. Then I wrap it around a really ripe banana - it is freakishly good.

anirtak
07-20-2006, 12:18 AM
Glory87...I will have to trust you on the wheat tortilla, pb, and banana thing because I simply dislike wheat tortillas :( , maybe it is a brand thing and I haven't found one I like.

What about liquor, I am on a work trip with coworkers and it is a bet we will go out. I know I need to stay away from beer but wine can get pricey, what are my other options?

I look at it like this - when I was heavy, one grilled chicken salad with dressing on the side would not have made me thin. Now that I'm maintaining my weight loss, one greasy pizza lunch will not make me heavy.

I totally agree with you, but since I am only three weeks in this diet, I just don't want to cheat too much. When I am down 30, 40 pds I will probably feel better about eating pizza :smug: .

Glory87
07-20-2006, 12:38 AM
I'm not a big drinker. When I was actively losing weight, I had wine once - on my birthday. If you want to drink and be social, I would definitely "nurse" a drink and alternate alcoholic beverages with water or soda water with lime. If it were me, I'd have a single glass of really good red wine, but if you think wine would be too pricey (hellloooo expense account!) here's a thread LLV posted that lists the caloric content of alcohol so you can make an informed decision:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84216&highlight=wine

For tortillas, I like the 50 calorie La Tortilla factory tortillas. White tortillas would work fine too, there is nothing bad about with white rice or white potatos or white tortillas. I just prefer the more nutritional options if they are available.

cacmsc
07-20-2006, 07:17 AM
Glory87 wow you have really done a nice job explaining the good things to eat etc. Thanks for taking such time to share. I am going to use some of your ideas etc. I have been trying to lose and keep it off for sometime now. I have 12.5lbs to go. My total goal was 19lbs. so I am on my way. I eat pretty healthy and love to cook.
I think having variety makes a huge difference in sticking to the new way of eating. That way we aren't bored and slip up. For me I calorie count most of the time trying to stay currently around 1400 cals. I also try to watch portions, read serving sizes, eat fresh fruits, veggies and watch the bread. I use the George Forman in the winter months my grill in the summer. I yo yo 'd a bit and now I am in the mode to keep on track. The pictures from this site of a Glory whom lost so much wt. and met her goal is very motivating. Glory hurray for you!!!!!!!!!!Congrats! I have a site that I have been on for quite awhile very supportive and an every day most of the time event. It helps keep me on track along with my scale. I gave that up for a bit and went by how I felt and looked some lbs. creeped back on I need to use that white square to keep balance and my journal. Its nice to look back and see how you have done... For me it works well not everyone likes to journal. I will stop in again the info. was great thanks everyone.

almostheaven
07-21-2006, 06:58 PM
Anirtak:

You can get the soy mayo at the grocery store in the health food section. It tastes more like mayo than the fat free crap, and has about the same calories, but is probably all around better for you than the fat free.

I hate to cook too and sometimes will do a cooking spree and free things. So I once made my own breakfast sandwiches, using whole wheat bagels with an egg and slice of cheese. I individually sealed these and froze them. So then I'd just nuke one in the morning.

I haven't been able to skim the whole thread, but if you eat in the car, on the go, try to water down oatmeal with enough milk so that it's drinkable and take it with you in a cup.

anirtak
07-21-2006, 07:40 PM
I actually had some Kashi brand oatmeal this morning and it was amazing, it ostuck with me all day. I might try it on the go per your suggestion.

YP1
07-22-2006, 01:01 PM
When I'm at home I love everything I eat. It helps that I've started to love healthy food (the thought of a burger makes me want to throw up - not least because I've become 99% vegetarian since I changed the way I eat), but I don't deprive myself of anything I want to eat, if I want it enough. My old comfort foods like chocolate, wine, cheese etc are still on the menu, but I'm more aware of how I'm eating (or drinking) them, and I make sure that I limit them sensibly. So I usually only drink wine at weekends now, and I eat chocolate in much smaller quantities. I've found vegetables that I enjoy eating, and I incorporate them into my meals.

The big thing is that I make a bit effort to try new recipes as often as possible. I'll buy a new recipe book, or a magazine that I know will have good veggie friendly recipies in it and I go straight out to the shop to buy the ingredients. I don't put it on a pile of something to try someday, when I have something special coming up, every day is special enough to merit a new exciting recipe. Today I tried a new salad recipe (which was delicious) and I'm making a new tomato and spinach pasta sauce, both from a magazine I bought yesterday.

I eat cakes and ice cream from time to time, but most of the time I'm quite happy with berries and yoghurt (or when I'm feeling indulgent, cream), or a pomegranate (deliciously indulgent), or just plain old apples.

I actually got really annoyed on holiday recently because the food was so uninspiring - all the bars had pretty much the same menu, a lot of the stuff was pre-prepared and bought in, and I was just sitting there whingeing about how I could do a much better job! The days when I got to raid the supermarket and prepare my own meals were the highlights, eating wise!

Jayde
07-22-2006, 02:25 PM
Anyone else have items they love?

A good knife and cutting boardsssssss ;)
Ceramic cooking pots
pressure cooker (especially my electric one)
breadmaker (so wonderful for homemade pizza dough)
lots of extra refrigeration space.. (more than one frig)
variety of beautiful dishes

Jayde
07-22-2006, 02:41 PM
In doing the survey I almost picked the first category: "Everyday, if I don't love it then I don't eat it" but then realized that although most often the things I eat are both healthy and enjoyable to eat, sometimes I do eat things I don't because they are good for me.. I could really only think of a couple examples....

bitter greens.. I put them in a salad every now and then because they are good for me.. also because I think it is important that I stretch my repertoire of taste.

ginseng- (not recommended for someone with high blood pressure)... my blood pressure is low and I am also a "cold" kind of person... ginseng gives me energy but I don't really "love" chewing it when a piece winds up in my soup bowl or drinking the tea.