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Charbar
07-06-2006, 04:01 PM
I know this can be a touchy subject for some. I just want your opinions please.
My dh drank regular coke .. about 6 cans a day. It's been 2 weeks and we thought he would be losing weight like crazy. He is over 100lbs over weight like myself. But it's not happening. It's been two weeks. He has been drinking diet cherry coke. I've heard that diet coke can be very bad for you - and your body doesn't know what to do with it - even though it has zero calories.

So.. I was told.. put him back on regular and slowly take him off it. I've heard regular soda is better then diet soda - even with the extra calories. ie. drink one less soda daily.

I just don't understand why he hasn't really lost a ton of weight. I make all his meals for him - his food intake has not changed.

help!

Dana


Charbar
07-06-2006, 04:06 PM
I read this.. and it just got me thinking...

http://nancymarkle.com/fatter/

SwimGirl
07-06-2006, 04:14 PM
I've heard about people GAINING weight when they've switched from regular to diet soda, something about the aspartame and other artificial sweetners. I'd say try switching to something like iced tea or juice? I believe they both have less sugar than soda. How's his diet? Is he eating enough food? I know my boyfriend eats SO much food, but as long as he eats regularly he loses weight. Maybe entering his food into fitday, see how much he's having. Good luck! :)

-Aimee


chick_in_the_hat
07-06-2006, 04:24 PM
My body seems quite happy with consuming diet sodas....IMHO the important thing is that 12 oz regular soda = 150 calories....12 oz diet soda = 0 calories....I'm to the point now where regular soda tastes nasty.

I would venture a guess that either it will simply take more than two weeks to start losing...has he maintained the weight he is currently at for a while? Or has he been gaining? Maybe removing the sodas simply took him to his maintenance calorie level. He needs to create a calorie deficit in order to lose. The only way to really know would be to log the actual calorie consumption...or wait it out a couple more weeks. Tell him congrats for me on quitting regular sodas - I do think it is a good first step towards weight loss.

It was an interesting article, though. Thanks for sharing it!

Meg
07-06-2006, 04:31 PM
I lost 122 pounds while drinking diet soda (average of two per day) AND a pot of coffee every day. :shrug: Guess my body is like Gina's! :D

Seriously, weight loss boils down to calories in versus calories out. If DH isn't losing, it's because he's still eating the same amount (or more) calories than he burns off in a day. Would he consider adding or increasing exercise? It would help build that calorie deficit that he needs for weight loss. :)

kateful
07-06-2006, 04:34 PM
6 cans regular soda x 150 calories x 7 days per week = 6300 calories per week. So, if that's the only change he's made to his diet, he'd have a 6300 calorie deficit each week (unless he's eating other stuff to make up for the loss of the soda), which would equal a little less than 2 pounds per week. If he's lost 3 or 4 pounds in the last two weeks by losing the soda and not changing anything else, he's right on track.

buckettgirl
07-06-2006, 04:48 PM
Do not drink regular pop.
what hogwash... Your body doesn't know what to do with high fructose corn syrup, which is what regular pop is... SUGAR WATER.
if you want to gain weight and be diabetic, keep drinking sugar pop.
Calories make you fat - sugar pop has calories, so don't drink it.
No person can expect dramatic weight loss from simply from cutting out sugar pop - it can happen, but that shouldn't be an expectation. I agree that your husband might be maintaining now instead of gaining; or perhaps he is consuming extra calories elsewhere to make up for what the lack of calories from beverages (I doubt that you control everything that goes in his mouth).
I saw on Oprah a few months back - she had Dr. Oz on, and he said that when you consume a regular soda with a meal, you will eat more of your meal than if you drank a non-caloric beverage; it is all an effect of the high fructose corn syrup. Here's the link: http://www2.oprah.com/health/yourbody/slide/20060501/yourbody_20060501_350_202.jhtml

Sorry to sound to crude, but I'm not gonna beat around the bush.

Charbar
07-06-2006, 05:12 PM
wow.. I knew this was going to be a hot topic... thanks for the input ladies!

supernurse_mommie
07-06-2006, 05:49 PM
My biggest reason for switching to diet soda instead of regular soda was simply the gross amount of empty calories i was consuming each day. I was totally unaware that i was DRINKING the amount of calories i should be eating.. its crazy how that works sometimes. ... so i started drinking diet soda.. to eliminate the crazy amount of empty calories i was consuming. maybe your husband simply is not in a calorie deficiet yet.. has he figured up his BMR.. and then any activities he does?
Im with the whole philosophy that less calories in equals weight loss. You have to expend more than you take in. It actually takes a LOT of calories a day for me to maintain at my current weight. Once i figured that out, and took a good hard look at what i WAS eating.. it all became clear :)
Im def a calorie counter now.. ive read it takes 3000 cal burned to equal a pound of weight loss (correct me if im wrong here).. so i just have been figuring it out rather scientfically.. and im AMAZED that my body is cooperating.. lol..
I still have a nasty caffiene addiction... and i get headaches and cranky without it.. i SHOULD break that addiction.. i know.. but for now.. Diet soda is gonna have to do it for me..
One addiction at a time :D

trishn222
07-06-2006, 06:50 PM
I have weened myself down to 1 or 2 diet sodas a week. I think for me it is the need to drink more water. I am a beleiver in water and soda no matter if it is diet or full sugar is going to make you drink less water. Water is one of the most important things for weight loss. I don't think that he should go back to regular soda but maybe should ween himself a little from the diet. I am not saying you need to go as drastically as I did, but...I drank 5 or 6 diet sodas a day for a long time and before that it was full calorie. I did not loose while drinking the diet soda, but I did not gain as much either.

Trish

Safora
07-06-2006, 07:13 PM
ive read it takes 3000 cal burned to equal a pound of weight loss (correct me if im wrong here)

3500 actually....(Not to be pedantic or anything ;) )


I have heard that diet soda = weight gain as far back as the 80's. These are just old myths revived.

kaplods
07-06-2006, 07:42 PM
What do you mean losing weight like crazy? If he's made no other changes, giving up the six sodas a day would equate to only be about 3 to 3.5 lbs over two weeks. When you're over 100 lbs overweight, your weight can fluctuate more than that on it's own. It could take more than a couple weeks to notice the difference.

MelodyL
07-06-2006, 08:30 PM
I too was a huge Diet Coke drinker, I think that some people may gain weight drinking Diet Sodas simply because it makes them want to eat more food, but the Diet Soda in and of itself will not make you gain weight. I gave up most of my Diet Sodas for the same reason that Trish did, because it meant I wasn't drinking water. I too have a couple a week now and while I did go through the headaches, etc when I gave it up, I don't have them anymore and rarely have a problem getting my water in. I also notice my thirst more than I did when I was taking a lot of Diet Coke in every day, and I know that drinking a lot of water is a lot healthier than drinking a lot of Diet Coke. I am guessing that your husband is probably making up the calories elsewhere, or like someone else said he's simply maintaining now rather than gaining or his body just hasn't caught up and started losing a bit each week. I would definately not suggest he go back to drinking sugar soda, although I'm like Gina and simply don't like the taste of regular soda myself, but probably what he needs to do is keep track of what is going in his mouth throughout the day. Maybe if he kept track of all his calories for a week he'd see what he's really taking in and what he needs to do to lose some weight.

supernurse_mommie
07-06-2006, 08:48 PM
3500 actually....(Not to be pedantic or anything )

aha! well.. hmm.. back off to the mathmatical calculations.. :P

laugh if you must.. but keeping my brian busy helps me not eat :D

thanks

andoreth
07-06-2006, 08:52 PM
Everyone's pretty much chimed in this vein, but just wanted to add my statistic: 75 lbs down so far with drinking an average of 4-6 dc's a day. :)

kateful
07-06-2006, 09:30 PM
I quit drinking diet coke during the holiday weekend. I figured I'd give my coworkers a break during my detox. :) In order to avoid the caffeine headache, I changed to iced tea, which I've always really liked but lacks the punch of diet coke. However, like some smokers only smoke when they drink, I crave a lot of snacks when I drink diet coke. I was hoping the switch to tea would resolve that. And, it appears it has helped.

Stevi-rocks
07-06-2006, 09:50 PM
I think both are nasty, unnatural, and unnecessary ( not that everything has to be natural) For me, the "Over the top" flavoring just encourages bad eating choices. I can now appreciate an unsweetened glass of tea or a huge bottle of H2O after a killer work out. But thats just me.

thistoo
07-06-2006, 10:23 PM
aha! well.. hmm.. back off to the mathmatical calculations.. :P

laugh if you must.. but keeping my brian busy helps me not eat :D

thanks

I'm only laughing because I'm the exact same way. Counting calories/figuring out calorie deficit is the first time in my life I've ever *enjoyed* doing math.

supernurse_mommie
07-06-2006, 10:32 PM
LOL i totally understand you.. at least im not alone !! I dread most kinds of math, even balancing my checkbook.. but there is something so EMPOWERING about being able to calculate your weight loss.. :)

Now.. if i could just figure out the equations to deal with sodium related water retention.. and of course.. that TOM.. i'd be on to something im sure!

kateful
07-06-2006, 11:04 PM
LOL i totally understand you.. at least im not alone !! I dread most kinds of math, even balancing my checkbook.. but there is something so EMPOWERING about being able to calculate your weight loss.. :)

Now.. if i could just figure out the equations to deal with sodium related water retention.. and of course.. that TOM.. i'd be on to something im sure!

If you could do that, you'd have my vote for president in 2008. :D

Misti in Seattle
07-07-2006, 03:44 AM
This may be unpopular among soda drinkers :) but I am firmly convinced diet soda and artificial sweeteners DO make you gain weight and, in any case, they are just plain not healthful. One of the best things I ever did for myself was just pretty much stop drinking the stuff completely.

But in any case, just switching from regular to diet coke is certainly not going to cause "weight loss like crazy." Take healthful eating and exercise.

Sandi
07-07-2006, 10:47 AM
Congrats to hubby for giving up the "regular" stuff. That's a huge step!!! You said it's been 2 weeks. Has he lost any?

It may just be that the reduction in calories may allow him to not gain, but it's just not enough to make him lose. Like everyone else said - calories in - calories out.

But there is no way I'd switch back to regular pop. Stick with the diet. Great first step!! :carrot:

DollyR
07-07-2006, 11:29 AM
When I moved to Korea I stopped drinking diet soda and a lot of coffee. (Although I do drink in the cup in the morning and an occasional starbucks.) I think it had something to do with eating more korean food and just loving my big bottle water cooler in my house. Plus Korea is VERY dry in the winter so you tend to drink more water as is yellow dust season.

You know what changed for me after I got off the soda.... Dentist visits. My dentist gives me great reports .....no cavities, good gums now.. etc.....I have a little tartar here and there but overall he says my teeth look great! It might not be the same for anyone else here but I just thought I would add this benefit for me. I also do not eat a lot of really sweet foods as much because I just don't. (Even when I was in Vegas I was so excited to have gelato and I lost my taste for it.) Five years ago I was all about the cupcakes, cake, cookies and diet coke. My tastes just changed.

barbygirl43
07-07-2006, 12:40 PM
I know when my dad was diagnosed with diabetes that was the first change the doctor suggested was the switch from Coke to diet drinks. (He was more of a 12 pack or 2-3 liter a day kind of guy.) He dropped 45 pounds in a month just with the switch. Of course he is diabetic too. That's been a few years now and his weight has slowly started creaping back on but only because he eats more of the sugar-free treats than before ;).

I think we've seen on here to each is own when it comes to diet pop.

SuchAPrettyFace
07-07-2006, 01:45 PM
I just read in Woman's World that when you drink Diet Soda, your body is expecting calories, but hen it doesn't get them, tries to find them in other avenues, so maybe it holds onto the calories it does get?

I'm not sure after all this is the same magazine with a different new diet plan every week & 3 pages later a bnch of fatty or sugary or salty recipes. ;)

I know my doctor told me not to drink anything other than water, but I have special circumstances.

However, special circumstances or not, I am NOT drinking water w/something fun like (thin crust veggie) pizza. So I choose caffeine free diet sodas, and the biggest downfall for me is, you have to buy them in a 12 pack. So if you want different flavors for variety, but only drink maybe 2 cans a month, you are stuck with 40 cans of diet soda staring at you.

Too bad you can't mix & match. 2 cans of Peach Fresca, 2 cans of Diet Root Beer, 2 cans of Sierra Mist Free, 2 cans of caffeine free Diet Pepsi, 2 cans of caffeine free Diet Dr Pepper, and 2 cans of diet Squirt. :(

Jen415
07-07-2006, 01:53 PM
SAPF, I wish we could mix and match like that too! I get bored easily with having to drink 12 of the same sodas! And did you say PEACH Fresca??? Haven't seen that here yet!

Soda isn't one of my vices, so I only have them occasionally...usually if we are out at the pub with friends. I've been sticking to tea, Crystal light, or just plain old H2O.

Goddess Jessica
07-07-2006, 02:00 PM
However, like some smokers only smoke when they drink, I crave a lot of snacks when I drink diet coke.

For me, real pop is like the crack of my diet. If I'm eating something special, like pizza or hamburgers. I want real soda. If I've been partying the night before, the first thing I want in the morning is a real coke. LOL. I am sooo predictable. You would think I would know if I am craving a real soda, I am not behaving myself!

activeadventurer
07-08-2006, 10:33 AM
I have never been much of a soda drinker one way or the other but I did notice that when I tried adding sugar free jello and a few sodas to my diet my weight loss came to a screeching halt while eating about the same.

I have read in a few sources (most recently from the Eat Right 4 Your Type Dr Peter D'Adamo) that aspartame (a common artificial sweetener) is a metablolic inhibitor. I recently tried switching to products sweetened only with Splenda to see if that helps. Hasn't been long enough (only a few weeks) to see if that works for me. I think it is a pretty individual thing depending on your metabolism and sensitivites to food items. Certainly not an exact science.

Charbar
07-09-2006, 04:58 PM
wow.. Now I'm completely confused :dizzy: - good conversation, though. Jim is sticking to diet soda right now.. but we are going to try to aim to get rid of it all together.

synger
07-10-2006, 10:30 AM
I'm a two-can-a-week diet soda drinker. Most of the time I'll drink water or iced tea (a nice fruity Russian tea that I barely sweeten with a mixture of sugar and Splenda to get my husband to drink it, as he's a two-can-a-DAY regular soda drinker).

I deal with the variety issue the same way I deal with making big batches of food for the freezer. A new one each week or two, and then after a while I have a variety in the freezer. So one week I'll buy some Diet Coke with Lime and next week Diet Cherry Dr. Pepper. I'll still have some Diet Coke left over, and can alternate. The week after, I get something fruity, and I have three varieties. And since I'm drinking a few each week, I just move the "new" cans into the old boxes. So I pretty much end up with two boxes, both of which are a mixture of flavors.