100 lb. Club - It pays to read the bottle....
06-25-2006, 12:24 PM
Boy do I feel stupid.
I take a few supplements every morning.
Glucosamine and chondroitin
and I take Fibercon.
Now, I work to get enough fiber, but I thought better safe than sorry and for guys - fiber and the lack there of and links to prostate cancer - so I thought, what the heck.
So, I have been doing this for 2 years. I would eat breakfast then take these supplements.
LOL well, today I am taking all of this and I happen to read the fibercon label. Warning, do not take this within 2 hours of other medicines. All bulk forming laxatives interfere with the absorption of other drugs. Well duh - had I thought about how those work that would have been obvious. They absorb water to build bulk as does natural fiber. If you take that with any other supplements or medicine, then it is going to get absorbed into the fiber and passed out of the body.
So - word to the wise - read the labels
and if you take fiber, take it at night and your other pills in the morning.
LOL man, I feel dumb.
I hope everyone is having a great day.
I wish you all the best!
06-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Charles -- ouch! The :devil: is in the details, huh? I think we've all done things like this! What gets me is when I do things for my health and then realize that I'm still screwing them up!
07-16-2006, 11:17 PM
Charles--Another little thing about the Fibercon is that you really need to drink a ton of water. What a nurse friend of mine told me is that when you take the fibercon without an adequate amount of WATER the fiber acutually soaks up all of the liquid in your stomach. Well obviously when that happens you are back to square one or worse. Also certain kinds of juice will also interfere with meds. Good Luck. Seems like when trying to do good we are actually doing more harm. Here is a great website if you are interested in doing a colon cleanse. <--linkosuction--> From reading the information it seems like everyone could stand a good cleaning. WARNING--this site is kinda gross but I think it kind of a reality check.
07-17-2006, 10:29 AM
Kimpo, I highly recommend avoiding the colon cleanse route. Unless someone has a special condition and their doctor recommends it as part of a supervised medical treatment, then it should be avoided. Colon cleanses, as well as the scare tactics they use to promote them, are the latest consumer scam. Scammers get us from all ends :lol:
07-17-2006, 12:13 PM
I take sugar free Fiber Choice Chewable Tablets. I don't see a warning on the bottle. It also states no water required! I always take them with lots and lots of water. I may have taken them with my supplements at times. I do make sure to take these everyday. But I use them in a different way. Say I'm really hungry (head hungry) and I know that I shouldn't eat I take these to make me fill "full".
07-17-2006, 12:14 PM
1 tablet = 2 grams of fiber.
07-17-2006, 04:48 PM
I don't colon cleanse, but I do a full body cleanse which addresses the colon as well. Greatest thing I've ever done for myself. I feel great! I don't see detoxing your body as a scam by any means.
Anyway, most people don't seem to get enough fiber in their diet. I started to add some supplemental fiber which has 4 g in 1.5 tsp in my shakes recently. Plus, I'm getting some yummy cookies that have 9 g of fiber in it with flax seed and all that good for you stuff. Definitely a tastier way to get your fiber lol. I figure one of those a day with my supplemental fiber and whatever fiber I eat throughout the day, I should be good to go!
I've heard about the water and fiber thing too. Like the fiber I'm using you have to take it with at least 8 ounces of water. Fiber from what I understand absorbs water, so you definitely want to make sure you get enough of that.
07-17-2006, 11:13 PM
Where are you getting the full body cleanse? Another thing you can also do a parasite cleanse. Sounds gross but to my understanding everyone has some type of parasite living inside us and sapping everything they can from us. I think that it recomends doing this roughly once a year after the first initial cleanse. I keep wavering on the colon and the parasite cleanse. I think to myself that if I have any of these things inside me do I really want to know but on the other hand I really dont want it inside me. LOL kimberly
07-18-2006, 12:29 AM
Wow, if we all have parasites in us sapping everything from us why don't we all die from that?
07-18-2006, 01:09 AM
Thank you Charles for the warning. I never would have thought of that if not for your post. :)
07-18-2006, 01:19 AM
Yeah, I realized that after taking the second dose one time that fiber and meds don't mix. Yet, I think taking one is actually very good esp. for those of us that find that when going down to the calorie range we need to be at to actually lose some weight. It can help u from raiding the fridge due to starvation esp. in the beginning of changing ur eating habits. I don't take one anymore but do each a low cal, low sugar, high fiber cereal to get that effect. Taking it by supplementation is still good but you wanna get some, some from your food when starting off. Just don't overdue it, remember u gotta eat food, and u gotta learn food control, not food avoidance.
07-18-2006, 09:20 AM
Kimberly ... there are links for more information about the cleansing system on my blog. The program consists of more than just cleansing ... goes into nutrition and overall health as well, and this is actually what I've been doing to lose weight even though it's not actually a weight loss program. Just works really well for those who do need to lose weight.
Anyway, I'm tired and rambly. If you have any questions, feel free to PM or email me.
Oh and yes, if you have any residents that need to be evicted, it should take care of that too. It's a gentle cleanse, but very effective!
07-18-2006, 09:50 AM
Re fiber: It is possible to get plenty of fiber just by making changes in your diet. I ran my nutridiary report, and over the past 10 weeks, I averaged 33 grams of fiber per day (low of 12 and high of 52 grams, 6 days were under 22 grams).
Change from white to wheat breads, white to brown rice, white to some multigrain pasta. Eat fruit! Or high fiber cereal. I do still eat some white breads etc, but eased into these changes over time. It was not something I could do overnight.
07-18-2006, 10:42 AM
I have noticed over the few years of my fitness journey that some topics inflame a lot of passion. Sex, Religion, Cleansing... :D
I have read the information about these and as a scientist, I find that I just do not believe what they claim about accumulated toxins etc. That is just me. However, I am a big believer in - if something works for you and it is not harmful - by all means - go for it.
Don't be fooled for a moment, weight loss, fitness and health are huge money making industries. While a lot of supplements and "miracle" pills and powders exist - I think for the most part the succeed in making you "lighter" by taking your money and putting it into someone else's' pocket.
I encourage everyone to actively search for information, check the source and look for items that debunk what seems too good to be true. Then, make up your own mind. If after you have read the pros's and con's and still want to give something a try - at least you are making an informed choice.
I wish you all the very best!
07-18-2006, 08:09 PM
I agree in researching anything before getting started especially when it has to do with your health (and finances lol). It took me 6 months to get started doing what I'm doing now, and I'm glad I finally did it. I certainly feel a lot better than I did before. The focus is on nutrition, cleansing, and a lifestyle change. This is no magic pill or anything. I don't believe there is a such thing. I know it works for me and many others, but it's not for everyone.
I never realized before that I didn't get enough fiber before I'd say about 8 or so months ago. Never gave fiber any thought, but I've learned a lot here recently. I'm working on the fiber and the water intake. I've already done a lot better in the nutrition dept lol.
07-18-2006, 09:09 PM
As far as the parasite cleanse goes it is not just fiber it gives a list of the herbs that are used. I am a firm believer in herbs as opposed to over the counter drugs. I realize that this is a HOT topic and everyone has their opponion but there is no reason to be smart. Everyone has their own opponion and I think it can be expressed in a nice way. I am not pushing the parasite cleanse but thought someone might be interested in learning about what may be living in our bodies. There are so many ways to pick up parasites especaially for kids. The following is the list of herbs used in the parasite cleanse. I firmly believe that cleansing is important. I saw the problems that my grandmother had just simply from being constantly constipated and taking laxatives. Just cause you are moving doesnt mean that you arent stopped up somewhere higher. Rhonda I will defently check out your site. Kimberly
Black Walnut Hulls
Prickley Ash Bark
False Unicorn Root
Grapefruit Seed Extract
Male Fern Root
07-18-2006, 11:57 PM
kimpo -- I'm sorry if what I said came across as rude. It's just that your earlier post was kind of scary ('sapping everything they can from us') and very vague -- no mention of what parasites you're taking about or what they do and what any specific dangers are. I was trying to lighten the mood (and I guess I didn't do a very good job :) ), but behind that was also a serious question: if there really are all these parasites living in us, why don't they do more harm? Why don't our doctors tell us about them?
I've taken a look at some websites that advocate colon cleansing and saw lots of testimonials from people and statements about all the icky things, but no hard facts or real evidence. Not even a lot of real information about what parasites they will deal with or why they are bad. I did see lots of gruesome images of things that are supposedly taken out of colons, however.
Frankly, a lot of what I saw looked like the kinds of scare tactics that are very commonly used. Research has demonstrated they are effective scare tactics and very persuasive. So, when I see people using these tactics, I get, well, suspicious.
Here is a website that argues that colon cleansing is a scam, and gives some information about what might be going on when you try a colon cleanse.
(mods, I don't know if that's a legal link or not. I know you might take it out. If it's out, you can google, "colon cleanse scam" psyllium).
Please note, I am NOT saying colon cleansing is bad for you. I don't know that. All I am saying is that the people who advocate it make me suspicious because of the kinds tactics they use. Like Charles, I agree that we should make informed decisions. He probably said it better than me, though. :)
07-19-2006, 01:29 AM
Hey thats ok--lots of stress lately and I guess I just took it wrong. I will take a look at the rawveg site. My brother in law is a herbologist (spelling?)I will see if I can get him to give me some information or a website that may be able to tell more about the parasites and the colon cleanse. He has alot of health problems so it may take me sometime but I will see what he may be able to produce. I guess there are pros and cons to everything in life. I guess thats why we look to others for advice so we can make informed decisions. I am really enjoying this site and hopefully it will help me make informed decisions about making a lifestyle change instead of just dieting and regaining. Thanks guys. Kimberly
07-19-2006, 08:55 AM
Kimberly -- I'm really glad you're enjoying this site -- it really is a great place! We don't always agree and sometimes we don't communicate as well as we would like, but the support is astounding. And you are right -- making a lifestyle change will hopefully stop the loss/gain cycle.
07-19-2006, 10:18 AM
Just to chime in..
I have to say I love taking fiber. It keeps me full and also helps with other stuff... I take psyllium fiber, which is the main ingredient in metamucil but you can also buy it by itself at health foods store (large canister ~9 dollars)
As far as colon cleansing goes, I read an article in First magazine a few months back that says common foods we eat cleanse out our colon of parasites including garlic and lemon juice. Also the article went on to say that there were symptoms for the people that did have parasite issues and eating garlic or drinking lemon juice solved the issue. Of course if I did think I had a stomach issue, I'd check with my doctor to see what the real issue is rather than a self diagnosis.
07-19-2006, 12:48 PM
All cleanses are NOT created equal. 'Tis all I have to say about that lol. nelie intersting info you posted. Will have to look into that further.
07-19-2006, 01:51 PM
You're so right about reading the label! Psyllium husks also should not be taken within 1-2 hours of medications/vitamins.
Caution should also be used when taking tums and/or charo tabs because they can interfere with the absorption of many medications. As a nurse, I've seen people hospitalized due to taking tums with their heart meds.
So, you can't be too careful!