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sh3l5
06-16-2006, 12:37 PM
has anyone heard of that weight loss plan that is used by the hospitals for patients before major surgery. It reveolves around eating different types of food on different days. Thought I might try it, what are your thoughts on it?


andoreth
06-16-2006, 12:44 PM
I know that I read somewhere that these types of plans are urban myths, and that no one has been able to track down any hospital that has ever issued a plan like them.

Generally, I think it is best to stay away from "quick fix" types of diets, and instead search for the balanced, calorically moderate eating plan that you can sustain for a lifetime, and then use plenty of exercise to affect weight loss.

Excess weight is a long-term problem that needs a long-term solution. :)

srmb60
06-16-2006, 02:04 PM
I'm a nurse in a hospital that does surgery and no we don't.


sotypical
06-16-2006, 02:33 PM
I thought they just make you fast for a day or something before any surgery.

srmb60
06-16-2006, 02:38 PM
Clear fluids for a day or two. They like yer innards empty if they're gonna fiddle with them. But orthopedic or dental, ears, eyes, tonsils .... nothing to eat or drink after midnight.

Vampiric Addiction
06-16-2006, 05:25 PM
I dont know about elsewhere in the world, but I know over here for my surgery (abdominal, gall bladder and pancreas) i hadnt eaten for over a fortnight anyway so trhat wasnt an issue but as of midnight i wasnt allowed to drink anything at all.

But no, ive never heard anyone having a special quick diet for surgery like that

Suzanne 3FC
06-16-2006, 05:40 PM
The diet has gone under several names, such as the Mayo Clinic Diet or the Sacred Heart Hospital diet. There are several variations floating around, and usually last 3 days or 7 days and usually involve either hot dogs or cabbage soup.

The hospitals deny any affiliation with the diets and stress that they are unhealthy and should be avoided.

sotypical
06-16-2006, 05:54 PM
ewwww hot dogs for 7 days! I like hot dogs in all, but only ONCE in a while!

Jtjoray
06-16-2006, 10:05 PM
Yeah agree with you. I dont want to eat hot dogs for 7 days!

lilybelle
06-17-2006, 12:09 AM
I worked in several hospitals as a nurse for 20 yrs. and have never heard of a 7 day diet that patients were supposedly put on before surgery.

sh3l5
06-17-2006, 11:04 AM
The eating habbits stated in the diet seem a little easy to follow. The one day all you can have is fruit the next day it is veggies, the third it is a combination of both. Some days you can have meat and beef and other days you can have a baked potato. I think i might try it. A week cant really do any harm can it?

jillybean720
06-17-2006, 11:36 AM
A week cant really do any harm can it?
It's not that it will do any harm, but as soon as you start eating normally again, you're probably more likely to gain back whatever you lost that week. If all you're eating is mostly fruits, veggies, and a little meat, then you're likely only going to lose primarily water weight, not actual fat. I'm sure you've heard it a million times before, but I'm going to say it again: however you choose to lose your weight, it should be a plan you can stick with forever--doing short-term diets more often than not lead to yoyo-ing instead of permanent, sustainable weight loss.

And for the record, I have had major abdominal surgery in the past (sliced open from my belly button down to remove a 10-inch ovarian cyst, another cyst, and an ovary), and I didn't have to go on any sort of special diet. Food gets processed efficiently enough in our bodies that typically, you're just cut off from eating at a certain time the night before (typically midnight, although I've been cut off at 9pm for an early morning procedure the next day).

sh3l5
06-17-2006, 02:33 PM
I dont really understand why you say as soon as you start eating 'normal' foods the weight will pile straight back on again. I am really determined to get to my target weight, but at the moment nothin I try seems to work. I have even been blacking out due to eating not enough food and exercising too much. Its really disappointing when your doing this right, as you should be, and nothing happens.

I feel like crying when i look in the mirror, I made the huge mistake or not taking any pictures before I started to eat healthily and exercise. Still now I dont like what I see.

Glory87
06-17-2006, 02:41 PM
If you are blacking out, you are not doing it right.

sh3l5
06-17-2006, 02:43 PM
The doctor didnt think the black outs were related to my eating habbits, but every body else seems to think so.

LadyFirelyght
06-17-2006, 03:00 PM
I have even been blacking out due to eating not enough food and exercising too much. Its really disappointing when your doing this right, as you should be, and nothing happens.
Eat more and exercise less if you're blacking out. Obviously your body is telling you that SOMETHING IS WRONG. You're not doing *this* right if you're blacking out. Talk to a doctor/nutritionist about what would work well for you. It looks like you need a boost of help :)

Meg
06-17-2006, 03:14 PM
I am really determined to get to my target weight, but at the moment nothin I try seems to work.

Now hold on! Go back and read what you posted earlier today in a different thread:

In the last two weeks I have been doing sit down type exercises and I have lost two inches from the circumference of each of my legs.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87012

Sweetie, that's awesome! Two inches off each thigh in two weeks -- it doesn't get any better than that! Obviously something you're doing IS working. :D

Patience, my dear! You don't need to overexercise or starve yourself - you're already getting fantastic results. :hug:

The Real Me 1
05-07-2014, 12:15 AM
@sh315

Hi :0) Newbee here. Just found this site and LOVE it!

Just a little note on the "7 day" diet. I did the "Sacred Heart" version a few times over the years. It basically jump starts your metabolism (great if your metabolism has gotten sleepy LOL). It also helps to clean your system out and sort of reset you to a healthier eating plan (especially for the sugar addict...like myself).

It is not at all a diet to use long term. I have used it to get myself going up that hill. I have done it for 2 weeks before...but do not recommend any longer.

I then go into something like the South Beach. I have never really followed the SB to the T, but I have used it as a framework concept for eating.

I lost about 63 pounds about 8 years ago. Went from 197 to 134. The idea of using SB to maintain my healthy weight has worked up to now. THEN I HIT 40...UG. now Im back up to 160 and finding it far more difficult to shed than before.

Getting ready to get real serious with the Sacred Heart as the lead and then South Beach.

Olivia7906
05-07-2014, 07:41 AM
If all you're eating is mostly fruits, veggies, and a little meat, then you're likely only going to lose primarily water weight, not actual fat

:?: Ummmm, can I ask you what you base this statement on? This sounds a bit bananas to me. Food is food. As long as your calories are not higher than what you burn off in a day, you will lose FAT. I personally cut out meat for weeks at a time (for gallbladder purposes) and eat only fruits, veggies and healthy oils and lose TONS of fat and do not put the weight back on.

Mrs Snark
05-07-2014, 09:16 AM
:?: Ummmm, can I ask you what you base this statement on? This sounds a bit bananas to me. Food is food. As long as your calories are not higher than what you burn off in a day, you will lose FAT. I personally cut out meat for weeks at a time (for gallbladder purposes) and eat only fruits, veggies and healthy oils and lose TONS of fat and do not put the weight back on.


Since jillybean made that comment in 2006 she is unlikely to answer you. :) (her last post was some time in 2012)

Sally Pineapple
05-07-2014, 10:37 AM
The diets before surgery are for shrinking your liver so that they can move around with the added space. I know that is the reason for the clear liquid diet before WLS.

Olivia7906
05-07-2014, 04:14 PM
Since jillybean made that comment in 2006 she is unlikely to answer you. :) (her last post was some time in 2012)

HAHAHAHA!! I didn't even look at the date of this thread!! LOL! :dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

TweetyBird
11-04-2014, 04:16 PM
It is a quick seven day weight loss or intermittent every other month or so and definitely not for pregnant women.
The cabbage type vegetable soup is very good, can season to taste and I believe you can lose 10-15 lbs.
Sacred heart health diet: Lose weight and improve heart function
Sacred heart health diet or cabbage soup heart diet is 7 day eating plan which consists of special made soups and vegetables which you can eat in liberal amounts.
The diet is mainly used by overweight people with heart condition who want to lose weight quickly, before surgery.
Since sacred heart soup diet is based on low calorie soups and vegetables, it will not only help you lose weight but also clear the body from toxins and increase your energy level. The diet is also beneficial for people suffering from diabetes or bowel issues.
Diet has been known by many names, such as Spokane Heart diet, Cleveland Clinic diet, Miami Heart Institute diet, Sacred Heart Memorial Hospital diet as well as cabbage soup heart diet. It also seems that the diet mainly circulates from person to person and on the internet.

Like any other diet, sacred heart soup diet also has it's downsides. You may lack some of the vitamins and minerals since the diet limits the number of foods that you can eat during the day.

Because of this, pregnant women should stay away from sacred heart health diet and the ones who choose to implement this 7 day eating plan, should consult with their doctor.

THE 7 DAYS EATING PLAN
Day 1 Any fruit, except bananas. Cantaloupes and watermelon are lower in calories than most other fruits. Eat only soup and fruit today.

Day 2 All vegetables. Eat fresh, raw, cooked or canned veggies until you are full. Try to eat green leafy veggies and stay away from dry beans, peas or corn. Don't forget the soup. A baked potato and butter for dinner. Don't eat any fruits through the day.

Day 3 Eat all the soup, fruits and veggies you want. Don't eat baked potato. If you have eaten as above for three days, you should be few pounds lighter.

Day 4 Bananas and skim milk. Eat at least 3 bananas and drink as much milk as you want today, along with the soup. Bananas are high in calories and carbohydrates, as is the milk but on this particular day, your body will need the potassium and the carbs.

Day 5 Beef and tomatoes. You may have 10 to 20 ounces of beef and a can of tomatoes, or as many as 6 tomatoes on this day. Don't forget to eat the soup, at least once today since is vital part of cabbage soup heart diet.

Day 6 Beef and veggies. You can even have 2-3 steaks on this day but with green leafy veggies and no baked potato. Be sure to eat the soup at least once today.

Day 7 Brown rice, unsweetened fruit juice and veggies. Eat until you are full and don't forget to eat the soup. You can add cooked veggies to your rice if you want during the 7th day of sacred heart health diet.

DRINKS ALLOWED
Unsweetened juices
Tea (herbal)
Coffee
Cranberry juice
Skim milk
Lots of water

SACRED HEART DIET RECIPE FOR THE SOUP Note: You can add 1 quart V-8 Juice
1 or 2 cans of stewed tomatoes
3 plus large green onions
1 large can of beef broth (no fat)
1 pkg. Lipton Soup mix (chicken noodle)
1 bunch of celery
2 cans green beans
2 lbs. Carrots
2 Green Peppers
Half a head of cabbage
Rosemary, oregano, curry, chilli and black pepper to spice it up
CONCLUSION
Sacred heart health diet or cabbage soup heart diet will help you lose weight since it consists of fruits, vegetables and especially soups which are all low calorie foods. Also, the diet is pretty low in saturated fat, it doesn't contain any processed, simple carbs and it is virtually trans fat free.
That being said, the bad side of it, is that sacred heart soup diet limits what kind of foods you can eat. It limits protein containing foods and lacks healthy fats, while there is no complex carbs coming from whole grains, besides brown rice, on day seven.
The American Heart Association and the Sacred Heart Medical Center have stated that they disclaim any connection with the diet.
However, sacred heart health diet can benefit you in more ways than one, besides losing weight. There is no need to be on cabbage soup heart diet for more than 7 days.