Exercise! - I can't help it, I just HATE exercise...




Less of Lena
04-18-2006, 12:05 PM
I don't get it. What's wrong with me?

I've been avoiding exercising lately because I really, truly HATE it. I was good for a few months. I kept trying to convince myself how "good" it was for me. I kept telling myself that I could "learn" to like it. It never happened. I was not able to fool myself. I hated it as much (maybe more) after a few months as I did when I started. As a result, I've fallen into avoidance mode in the past month. Why? Because I get absolutely NO joy from exercise at all. NONE. I absolutely HATE IT.

I've done everything I can think of to make it more enjoyable. I've done everything I can think of to eliminate the excuses. I don't have to deal with driving to/from or working out in public gyms (and all the nastiness that can be there), because I set up a bona-fide home gym in the basement. I have a TV, DvD player and IPod station down there. I have a big fan to evaporate some of the sweat. And I still HATE it and do everything in my power to avoid working out.

Even just going for a walk is pointless. If I have no destination, why go? I live too far from anything to walk to it. I'd rather drive anyway because I actually enjoy driving and I can get there (wherever "there" is) in the shortest time possible. And I don't have to take a shower after.

I think that's a big part of my avoidance. No matter what I do for "exercise", I always have to follow it up with a shower. It just seems like such a big waste of time. That, and the fact that I see no immediate, tangible results from exercise. No whopping 3, 4, 5 pound loss the day after. Perhaps if the scale visibly moved as a direct result, I'd be more inclined. Whether you agree with this or not, the scale is my motivator, since all my health indicators are already normal (and always have been).

To all of you who feel so great afterwards, to you who just LOOOOOVE to exercise, I just don't understand. All I ever feel after exercise is hot, tired and nasty-sweaty. None of those are good feelings to me. Do you actually like feeling like that?

What's wrong with me? Why don't I like it?

The whole concept of exercise puts me in an incredibly foul mood. :mad:


happydaisy
04-18-2006, 12:13 PM
I'm with you on the sweating. It is gross and I don't necessarily love that aspect of working out. But I do get a workout high and it just gives me more energy for the rest of the day so I do like it. I like it a lot more in the morning though rather than taking a chunk out of the middle of the day where I then have to take a second shower etc.. When do you try to workout?

srmb60
04-18-2006, 12:23 PM
Oh Lena! I hate to see you in a foul mood. Let me see ... why don't you tell us what you do do all day and maybe we can just jazz it up so it uses more calories. Maybe right now formal exercise isn't for you.
We need to cheer you back up cuz you've come a long way already!


jillybean720
04-18-2006, 12:36 PM
Lena, darlin', you've read my mind! :dizzy: I haven't exercised in MONTHS because I just plain don't like it. I know I should--believe me, I know aaaaaaaall the reasons why it's good for you. I used to exercise just about every day. There was even a point a couple years ago when I was doing cardio 6 days a week and strength training 4 days a week. I did this for months (and still got penty of sleep), yet I never felt more energized or anything like that. I fell out of the routine because, quite frankly, I didn't miss it :p

I've tried exercising in gyms (both co-ed and all-women) and at home. I don't really like working out with others because I always get frustrated if I can't keep up (even though I know we're at different fitness levels and I shouldn't compare myself to others). I've used machines (treadmills, ellipticals, recumbent bikes, weight machines), free weights, a stability ball, and videos (Tae Bo isn't bad--I like the kicking and punching!). But, like you, I hate that I have to change clothes and shower and yuck yuck yuck. It turns my 20-30-minute workout into this big routine. As it is, I get up at 4:45am--any earlier, and I might as well not even bother going to bed at night :dizzy:

Oh, and like you, my physical health factors are all in check--no major injuries, no high blood pressure, no high cholesterol, etc., so if everything is working okay in there without exercise, then why bother? I know I probably won't be so lucky forever, but that's why I'm trying to lose weight now.

I don't want to be a flabby, disgusting 150 pounds when I get there, so I know I NEED to do some exercise to tone up. I just don't WANT to do it :p

So yeah...I don't have any suggestions. I don't have any magical thing to say to motivate you or inspire you to workout. I just have a firm understanding of where you're coming from and a kindred solid hatred for exercise :devil: But I also realize that it is a necessary evil in order for me to achieve my personal physical goals, so eventually (soon), I'm going to have to just suck it up and deal! I mean, honestly, I'd rather eat McDonald's every day for dinner instead of cooking (my, how I hate cooking!), but I don't because that woud be a step in the wrong direction, and NOT exercising certainly isn't going to help any, either.

Less of Lena
04-18-2006, 12:39 PM
I tried working out first thing in the morning. Not doable. I'd have to get up at 4:30am, which is just not sustainable for me. I already get up earlier than I would like. I think it's criminal that the morning people have decided the world must get up before dawn just because they do.

After I get my shower and get going for the day, it's hard to work in exercise because of the required shower afterwards. An hour workout ends up taking a minimum 2 hour chunk out of the day once you add in prep time before (changing into workout clothes) and after (shower and yet a third change of clothes). And since I already took a shower, it just seems like such a waste of time, not to mention all the additional laundry from 3 sets of clothes a day.

At night, I'm just not in the mood. I want to relax, not get all hot, tired and nasty-sweaty.

I just don't know what to do to get out of this frame of mind. :?:

jillybean720
04-18-2006, 12:47 PM
I just don't know what to do to get out of this frame of mind. :?:
I don't think I'll ever get out of this frame of mind--just have to learn to deal with it. How did you get out of the state of mind for overeating or eating too much junk?

nelie
04-18-2006, 12:49 PM
I guess i'm some where in the middle. I really do like exercising for the most part. I've been doing 1 hike a week once the weather turned nicer because it is challenging, gets me some fresh air and lets me see things I wouldn't normally see while sitting at home. I like going to the gym and doing weights because I can see an improvement in my strength. I like doing cardio at the gym because I can see an improvement in my ability. It also translates well to my ability to hike.

I like the challenge that exercise presents and I like seeing an improvement in my body and in my abilities. I enjoy getting sweaty and taking a nice hot shower afterwards. I love showers.

I know what I don't like and that is working out at home. I don't know why but it is so boring to me. I'll try sometimes when I know I can't get exercise otherwise.

Exercise likes and dislikes are very personal. Exercise is healthy for you more than the fact that it helps you lose weight. Muscle built helps increase your metabolism. Cardio exercise keeps your heart and vascular system healthy. In general, it helps you stay mobile and limber. I exercise today because I want to be able to exercise tomorrow. I don't want to end up with mobility issues in my old age nor do I want to end up with conditions that could've been prevented if only I had incorporated some exercise into my life. My weight loss has stalled ever since my most recent start. Its frustrating but I continue to watch my portions and exercise. I'm not perfect but I'm better.

Those are my reasonings and that is my thought process. I know you have to find your own.

miss_elisha
04-18-2006, 12:50 PM
I don't like it either, for all the reasons you list. Sweaty--ick. Shower--time consuming (plus, I have majorly dry skin and it dries me out even more and my dr. told me to only shower every other day--how gross is that, especially if I'm working out).

But I'm trying to force myself to do it anyway. I know that to get my body into the shape I want it in, I MUST exercise, no if, ands, or buts about it. I WANT buff arms and legs, defined abs, all of that, and therefore I HAVE to exercise. Dieting can help you lose weight, but muscles require movement.

I tell myself that all that sweat is melted calories running off of me, never to return.

I do visualization (this is going to sound really silly) of little... umm... "creatures" in my body (if you've ever seen Shrek 2, my "creatures" look like the magic factory workers) shovelling fat into a big furnace. I imagine all the little fat cells screaming as they burn up in the flames. And then I laugh a wicked little laugh and sentence them all to burn!

Yeah, so I'm a big weirdo. I know.

Really though, I use the scale as my motivator too. I do have high cholesterol, but you can't exactly walk into the bathroom and check your cholesterol on a daily basis. But as for seeing immediate results on the scale... well, you can't expect that with anything. You said you won't see a 3, 4, 5 pound loss the day after an exercise session. That's true, but you also won't see a loss like that because you avoided a cheeseburger and had a salad instead.

I say do whatever you have to do to talk yourself into it. You don't have to like it; you just have to do it.

~Elisha

NotTheCheat
04-18-2006, 12:59 PM
One of the amazing things for me this time around was finding out that I really enjoy exercise. It has totally changed things for me. However, when I started I could barely walk up the stairs to my house - I knew I needed to increase my fitness or I just wasn't going to be able to live my daily life.

If you are losing weight without it and you don't care about the other benefits such as increased fitness and endurance, why force yourself to do something you hate? All my life growing up I always felt like exercise was punishment for being fat. My mother was always signing me up for something else to try and help me lose weight. I was never introduced to anything just because it might be fun and I might actually enjoy it. Therefore to me exercise was always fat people torture that I must endure because there was something wrong with me.

Somehow that has changed now and I am excited to get fit enough take a martial arts class. You never know - you might find something you like, and at that point it would provide reason and incentive to increase your fitness. But why torture yourself about it?

The only other thing I can think of is to learn how to sneak it in. Park a bit further from your car, take the stairs, etc. Also, you could design some mini 10-minute workouts, which might be enough to get you going but wouldn't get you all sweaty and nasty. Sure they aren't as effective as a prolonged workout, but in building fitness something is better than nothing.

aerotigergirl
04-18-2006, 01:04 PM
Elisha---I love your visualization routine! I sort of know how you feel... When people ask me "have you lost weight?" I think to myself, no, i didn't lose it at all... I know EXACTLY where it is... on the floor at the gym, where I left it.

I agree with Elisha, though. I know it sucks to have to budget time to exercise daily, but it really is worth it. Muscle burns more calories than fat does, so if you can increase your muscle while you're decreasing your fat, then the pounds will come off that much faster!

What about trying things that aren't "exactly" exercise? I mean, I really enjoy going mountain biking and I enjoy riding my bike to school each day. I don't think of this as exercise, even though I know I do get some benefit from doing it. If you can find a similar activity that you enjoy, it will feel like less work, maybe?

I work out at least an hour a day, and sometimes I do that during the middle of the day. This does mean that I have to shower afterwards. But, I don't let it turn into a huge ordeal. I run into the locker room, change (less than 5 minutes), workout (about an hour to 1.5 hours), run back to the locker room to shower (less than 7 minutes), get dressed and comb my wet hair (less than 5 minutes) and I'm out the door on the way back to my regularly scheduled day.

I realize that going back to work with wet hair might not work for everyone. (I'm still a student so no one cares what I look like, fortunately.) Wish I could be of more help. The thing I like about exercising is that it makes me feel like I'm "paying my dues" so to speak. I really want a body of a certain type, and I know it's not going to come to me if I'm not willing to work for it. When I've worked out hard at the gym, I feel proud of myself as if I'm doing everything in my power to get the body that I want. And I do find myself energized after working out. Wish I could be of more help.

Ilene
04-18-2006, 01:13 PM
Lena -- You just need to find the right exercise or activity that works for YOU... There's so much out there exercises wise you just have to keep trying to find the right activity ... Keep us posted on your progress....

I just found this quote: "No one said it would be easy, they only said it would be worth it." and it is worth it :yes: ... In the long run, eventhough you are very healthy right now, eventually your BP, cholesterol, etc, will change, then it may be too late...

Cafe Ole
04-18-2006, 01:16 PM
I am in this group of hating to exercise due to sweat, getting too hot & then getting headaches. But now that I have been consistant for over a month now it is easier, I breathe easier, I have more energy in the day, I want to be toned and not flabby when my weight is gone (which really makes it worth it), and if I don't I feel crabby and not as upbeat. Mind you it took me a couple weeks to get there cause I sure hated it and cursed it in the beginning. :lifter:

--I agree with Ilene, once you find exercises you like, you sill stick with it more. For me, I do the stairs, I walk around campus (it is so pretty right now) and I do my tummy tape & weights alternating with my Bowflex

sf40
04-18-2006, 02:02 PM
I've been exercising regularly since September and I don't really like it. As a girl and young woman, I managed to stay active and slender without doing any "intentional exercise" and just really hate the idea that now I need to. As kind of an aside, it just seems funny to me that we have so many devices, etc. to make life easier, then we have to exercise because life doesn't burn as many calories.

Anyway, I have many of the same issues as you. I don't like getting up in the dark to exercise before work. When I get home, I want to enjoy my family and dinner. Don't like to shower in the middle of the day, etc. What is working for me now is to not shower first thing in the morning, but shower after my workout. When my schedule changes, I may have to re-think that. But I like what exercise is doing for me, so I will find a way to fit it in my day forever.

The only exercise I really like is biking with my family, hiking with friends and/or family, and lifting weights. I tolerate cardio and do as much variety as possible to keep from getting bored. I also do a lot of intervals because I find it much less boring than just plodding along at the same speed/intensity.

Someone mentioned visualization. I really used to hate getting sweaty. In fact, if I broke a sweat I thought I was working out too hard ... Now, I want to break a sweat and love it when my hair is all wet. Why? Because I imagine that it is my fat melting! :D

Less of Lena
04-18-2006, 02:03 PM
Thanks, everyone -- it helps to know I'm not just weird. Well, ok, maybe I'm still weird, but that's another story... :lol:

I do like to golf. I'm not very good at it, but I have fun trying. And I rarely take a cart, I almost always walk. And I don't mind having to run directly home to shower, because I've usually had a good time on the course.

But golf isn't "exercise". Last week, I proudly told a trainer I got out and golfed and was promptly told it didn't count as exercise. It didn't have any strength or cardio benefits, so it was just a nice activity. ((sigh))

In any event, golf is weather dependant and seasonal (I can only play in Spring and Autumn -- Summer is too hot). And besides, unless someone starts paying me to do it, I just can't afford to devote the time or money required to do it on a daily basis. Maybe once or twice a week, but that's it.

It's funny, NotThe Cheat -- I've always looked at exercise as punishment, too. Punishment for not having been born with a fast metabolism. Like I had some control over that...

I do try to "sneak" stuff in, like you suggest. Walking the parking lots, running up and down stairs more than necessary when at home, ping pong with DS a couple of times a week, mallwalking every now and then... But I always feel like the Exercise Police are behind me, screeching, " IT'S NOT ENOUGH, SLACKER!!!! You need to do MORE MORE MORE!!!!!" And then I shut down.

Jilly, I don't know how I got out of the fast-food mentality, it just sort of happened. I don't "crave" healthy food, but I can easily say no to non-healthy ones. Not really an effort, not sure why. Maybe because I never really had "cravings" of any sort to begin with. And I'm just trying to be more cognizant of portion sizes with the healthier alternatives.

Nelie, Aerotiger, your attitude is the one I keep thinking I'm supposed to have. But it isn't happening for me. I know I *should* feel like that, but I don't :(.

I'm extra dry, too, Miss Elisha. Maybe that's one of the reasons I don't like taking extra showers -- too much time lotioning up AGAIN, after. And drinking more water isn't the answer. I drink a minimum 72 oz a day and I'm still dry. But I run to the bathroom a lot.

I guess I wouldn't mind it not being easy if I could at least see good solid results... I just feel like I put in a lot more than I get out...

fikustrees
04-18-2006, 02:06 PM
I used to hate it and now I love it. You need to change your attitude first of all as long as you are thinking I hate this I hate this I hate this, guess what, you will hate. You have to re-frame it in your head. I used to love fast food and hate vegetables. It took a long time but thinking about how disgusting fast food is, reading about it and the calorie counts and what they do to it, it all started to change my opinion now when I do eat that stuff I hate it.

It works the same with working out. At first I couldn't stand it and it was so hard, but I got obsessed with trying new videos and learning new things. Now if I have free time I will spend all day working out. My list of hobbies is ever growing and I just joined a gym. This summer I want to learn to swim.

Think about what kind of person you are and what motivates you.

Are you competative? Join an online challange where your workout so many minutes a day.

Do you like having a goal in mind? Start training for a mini-marathon. I know right now that seems probably like something you could never do, but you can, it just takes some training.

Do you care about different causes? Raise money for one of those breast cancer walks.

Do you have lots of stress and poor body image? Try Yoga. Feel too much rage to do yoga? Try kickboxing

Want to feel like a kid? Get a Bosu ball or a mini trampoline and a video to go with it.

Love animals? walk dogs for your local shelter.

Like dancing? Join a dance class, tap, samba, hula, bellydance, jazz, ballet, hiphop, they have classes for all of it.

You said you like your car- for strength start pushing it places!

Hate to sweat? start swimming or buy an aqua jogger to use in a pool or join a aquatics class.


I could go on all day! If this doesn't help tell me what you do like in your life and I am sure I can come up with something.

The best part about trying lots of new things is that while you are doing your experimentation you are still burning major calories and pretty soon you will able to do all kinds of cool stuff that you would never have thought of before.

And you will have more energy to do everything! That is the BEST benefit. It takes a while to get into it but I am sure you will eventually come around.

Good Luck!

Less of Lena
04-18-2006, 02:07 PM
Well, not lately, becasue I haven't put in anything, because I've burnt out. But you know what I mean... When I *was* exercising, it wasn't giving me the big payoff. Which, I guess, is why Ive stopped.

srmb60
04-18-2006, 02:11 PM
Let me at that trainer! What load of horse crap! Golf is indeed a worthwhile exercise! Remember move more and eat less. Golfing is moving more! And it counts!

kykaree
04-18-2006, 03:20 PM
Ditto Susan, I was about to whack the trainer over the head with an organic carrot!

It all counts. I just happen to be an exercise lover. I don't know how that happened really, as I spent 32 and a half years avoiding it. Now I swim, do cardio at the gym, weight train, I've started classes like dance and body combat and I do yoga and pilates.

If you hate it, you hate it. Your doing the right thing by adding incidental exercise and your golf.

The world would be very boring if we were all the same (and my gym would be even more crowded!!!)

I tend to exercise at the end of the day, due to my schedule, so have a shower at the end of the day. I too hate showering during the day. I get a bit tired of changing clothes all the time too.

Do what you can do without going more nuts than you already are :dizzy: It's no use doing something that you hate, and for what its worth, it sounds like you are doing the right things, given your base hatred of exercise.

Ilene
04-18-2006, 03:37 PM
Lena -- The "big payoff" as you call it takes a LOT of time and commitment and patience, we alllll want the magic pill and pooff we're slim!! Ain't gonna happen :no: ... find something you like and just do it, golfing counts too, just move it to lose it ...

You know something? When I weight train I barely sweat :no: ... You could do weights then wash your face, pitts, anything else you want, then you're good to go... Just a thought...

Goodbye Chubby
04-18-2006, 04:19 PM
I think it was JillyBean 720 that described exercise as a "necessary evil." That is the best way I've ever heard it put. I hate exercise with a passion, but I force myself to do it 17 times a week. I also had the mentality that if I didn't see results right away, why bother taking the trouble to exercise. So that's why I jumped in a bit excessively, but saw results fairly soon. I liked what I saw, so I've continued working out the same amount (granted, I cheat at times too).

The biggest thing for me is that I love to read. If you can find a really good book that can suck you in, it's a little easier to take your mind off the horrible torture you're inflicting on yourself. It at least makes time go by more quickly (make sure it's an interesting book, boring books actually make the time seem longer; I've made that mistake). With tv, there are commercials that allow the mind to wander back to how much you hate exercise; with just music, your eyes are free to wander back to the clock; so I find a book to be the most engaging activity.

Also, I feel no shame in admitting this: I don't shower after I work out. There are others at my gym who don't either; we just can't spare that kind of time during the work day. I towel off the sweat and wipe myself down with a wet paper towel, apply the deoderant and go on my merry way (oh yeah, I put some clothes on before returning to work :p ). Understand though, that I'm not insensitive to those around me. I've even asked my coworker who sits next to me (she's someone I can trust for an honest answer) if I ever smell after working out, and she's said that I don't. I've been around coworkers who also go to the gym and don't shower, and I have yet to find an offensive odor. Even if you're a heavy sweater (I sweat like a man), you don't necessarily smell bad enough to warrant a shower after every workout. Although, I do go through 3 sets of clothes during the day, which really makes my laundry pile up - another unfortunate side effect of the evils of exercise.

I have found that I'm starting to 'almost kind of sort of enjoy' working out with my weights and stability ball at home, but only the ten minute portion when I work the upper body. I guess that's a start, but I doubt I'll ever be able to say that I enjoy exercise, but at least I'll be able to say that I enjoy being slim and fit. Good luck trying to convince your body that something that feels so bad is in actuality really good.

jillybean720
04-18-2006, 04:48 PM
The biggest thing for me is that I love to read. If you can find a really good book that can suck you in, it's a little easier to take your mind off the horrible torture you're inflicting on yourself. It at least makes time go by more quickly (make sure it's an interesting book, boring books actually make the time seem longer; I've made that mistake). With tv, there are commercials that allow the mind to wander back to how much you hate exercise; with just music, your eyes are free to wander back to the clock; so I find a book to be the most engaging activity.
Oh, one thing my sister does that I wish I could do (I don't have any exercise equipment at home) is she sets her treadmill so she can see the tv and then plays the old season episodes of Gilmore Girls on DVD (I love that show!). Of course, this would work with any show--an hour episode is usually at least 45 minutes on DVD, and a half-hour show I would think is maybe 22 minutes. That way, no commercials, and you KNOW it will be a show you like!

Jayde
04-18-2006, 05:08 PM
The biggest thing for me is that I love to read. If you can find a really good book that can suck you in, it's a little easier to take your mind off the horrible torture you're inflicting on yourself. It at least makes time go by more quickly (make sure it's an interesting book, boring books actually make the time seem longer; I've made that mistake). With tv, there are commercials that allow the mind to wander back to how much you hate exercise; with just music, your eyes are free to wander back to the clock; so I find a book to be the most engaging activity.

A good book is great on the mill when you are walking, especially one with large print. What helped me throught the "I don't want to but have to exercise" mentality was my portable DVD player. My husband bought it for me so I could put it right on the treadmill. (Yes, he makes sweet and helpftul gestures sometimes. ;) )

Some people like to watch action movies. I prefer movies with both a great musical score and lots of dialogue. Also, I watch movies that I have seen before so I am free to watch parts or just look up and listen as if I were listening to a book on tape.

Of course it takes at least 2 workout sessions for me to finish an entire movie. But there are no commercials. Just me and my favorite movies. After doing this for awhile I've found that I don't need the DVD player as much anymore. Sometimes just walking and looking out the window is enough.

I don't care for sweating. But I love what the exercise does for me and how it makes me feel afterward. I also really enjoy a shower after a workout. It feels good to be disgustingly sweaty and then freshly clean with loose cotton clothes on.

I like eating certain junk foods. I mean I could really enjoy the experience, except that afterwards I know I will feel ill. So actually I can say I HATE lots of junk foods.

I don't always like exercising. I mean I don't always enjoy the experience, but I love how I feel afterward. Physically and mentally.. so yes, I have to say that I DO enjoy exercising. It's all a matter of perspective.

Ilene
04-18-2006, 06:37 PM
Another thing that may help are books on tape or CD or you can download them on a MP3 or iPOD... That would work better for me because I get too intense in my workout to read. When I run I have a radio where I can listen to all kinds of music and the news and radio hosts silly jokes, yea I LOL when I run :lol:...

Less of Lena
04-18-2006, 08:13 PM
I tried watching a movie once while treadmilling. It was a terrible, horrible awful movie, incredibly boring and made treadding that much worse. I used to try to tread during American Idol (barely tolerable), but ever since Mandisa got booted I lost all interest in the show and haven't watched it since. Come to think of it, I don't think I've treadded since then, either :lol:.

Maybe a better movie would help...

I can't read while treadding. I bounce too much.

I don't always enjoy the experience, but I love how I feel afterward. Physically and mentally.

I wish I could say that. If I could anticipate loving how I felt after, I'd have more incentive to do it. Instead, I dread how I'm going to feel. Before, during and after.

LadyFirelyght
04-18-2006, 09:40 PM
I felt like that for a very long time, Lena. I still do sometimes. In the beginning I HATED exercising. I avoided doing it at all costs. But it came to a point where I had to decide which I hated more: being fat or getting sweaty. I think you can tell which one won out.

I love to dance. I've never taken lessons or anything, but I love just shaking my groove thang. When I don't feel like "exercising", I dance for half an hour. I usually have so much fun that I don't even feel like I've done anything. And you know what they say, "Time flies when you're having fun" :D Keep going, Lena.

nelie
04-18-2006, 10:26 PM
I do find cardio on a machine boring if i'm not listening to music. The music helps the time go by faster. Today, I had the image of the girl in "Run Lola Run" while I was on the elliptical and I did 25 minutes total.

Lena, I do think you will get there. Don't beat yourself. I think there are very few people who actually enjoy every aspect of exercise.

eadavenp
04-19-2006, 12:51 PM
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Also, I feel no shame in admitting this: I don't shower after I work out. There are others at my gym who don't either; we just can't spare that kind of time during the work day. I towel off the sweat and wipe myself down with a wet paper towel, apply the deoderant and go on my merry way (oh yeah, I put some clothes on before returning to work :p ). Understand though, that I'm not insensitive to those around me. I've even asked my coworker who sits next to me (she's someone I can trust for an honest answer) if I ever smell after working out, and she's said that I don't. I've been around coworkers who also go to the gym and don't shower, and I have yet to find an offensive odor. Even if you're a heavy sweater (I sweat like a man), you don't necessarily smell bad enough to warrant a shower after every workout. Although, I do go through 3 sets of clothes during the day, which really makes my laundry pile up - another unfortunate side effect of the evils of exercise.



Count me in the who the heck needs to take a shower camp. When i workout, i sweat a clean, healthy sweat that doesn't smell like BO... it smells like sweat but not in the bad, nervous BO way. It is hard to explain, but very true. I have a good friend who is in phenomonal shape. She is an educational therapist and Tae Kwan Do champ (in the women 40+ category she was actually nationally ranked for a while) and she told me once, not being able to shower was not an excuse not to exercise. That is why we have deoderant... towel off, slap some on and get on with your day.

As for hating to exercise, i do too. Ill go thru phases where i am great about it (and my doctor loves that bc it has great mental health benefits) and times where for two or three weeks i couldn't make myself run if my house was burning down. You definitely arent alone, but the fact that you are trying to figure something out is a good start. Eventually you will find something that works for you.

Ready2ShedLBS
04-19-2006, 03:50 PM
i hate to see that you feel so adament about not exercising. I might go Dr. Phil on you for a minute, but you have GOT to change your mentality about working out. No one said you have to work out for long periods of time.. start with ten mins. Then go from there.

I for one know.. that when you are very heavy that exercise DOES feel like a waste of time, because you dont see results as quick as someone who is smaller does. Eventually though you will start to see bones you have never seen before, collar bones, wrist bones, knee caps, cheek bones, ect. Then eventually you will see muscles youve never seen. I have been there, I know exactly what you are going through, but you have to change your mind. Like someone else said.. I decided that I hated being fat, more than I hated exercise. Yes, the scale is a motivator but know that losing more than 2lbs of fat, a week isnt healthy and if fact is highly unlikely.. 52 weeks in a year 52*2 = 104. Thats an enormous amount of weight.

Another thing that helps me is I look at older people, 50,60,70's who walk like snails, and have canes. The human body isnt meant to freeze up on you.. its not something that "just happens" unless you have some type of disease that freezes the joints. There are 80 year olds out there, that have more endurance than I do at 24. Ive seen them, and I am in awe. What did they do different? They took care of themselves. We were built to move. Humans werent built to drive cars everywhere, sit in front of the TV on the sofa, in front of the computer.. ect.

You may not have health problems YET.. but you will. My grandmother is 73 years old. She has always been overweight, never exercised intentionally, and never really ate like she should. At 73 ( which is not that old), my grandmother can barely walk, she cant eat the things she once enjoyed because she over endulged in her "healthy" years, so for her... there IS NO moderation, she cant have it at all. My grandmother has been on a downward spiral since she was 50! For me.. thats in 25 years.. I have too much to do, and that is too little time for my health to go south. My grandmother barely knows who her loved ones are anymore. Yes I attribute this to her weight, I have researched and there are studies that have proven that obesity kills brain cells and is linked to Alzheimers and other brain disorders. She is also on a plethera of meds... its sad that her whole day revolves around taking her next pill, and eatting what may as well be cardboard. Especially when the 80 year old at the gym is leaping on the treadmill like a freakin gazelle. Makes me very sad that she didnt take care of herself because she will never really know what we have become and who our children are. I do not want my children, grandchildren or even great grand children to know that feeling. Thats my motivation. Sorry I have just come so far, Im very passionate.

Ilene
04-19-2006, 10:36 PM
Ready2ShedLBS -- Thank you for going Dr. Phil!! Excellent post :cp: and oh so true!!

Less of Lena
04-20-2006, 12:34 AM
I really appreciate all your responses, even when you go all "Dr. Phil" on me :). Your comments, coupled with some self-analysis, are helping me crystalize what it is I hate about exercise.

To be honest, I have to say, as politically incorrect as it may be, I still hate exercise. I just do. It's always been my contention that one can't control feelings or emotions. Feelings/emotions are what they are. They just happen. However, one can control how one deals with or acts upon those feelings and emotions. And that's what I'm trying to do with this extreme, lifelong dislike of exercise, trying to figure out how to deal with it.

I think I've identified 5 major points as to the Why.

1) Exercise is "punishment" for not having been born with one of the "good" bodies.
Addressed in a prior post.

2) The Exercise Police
No matter what I do, it's never enough. Never enough quantity, never enough quality. The Exercise Police are always inside my head, calling me a slacker and demanding MORE MORE MORE. They remind me that everyone else is doing MORE MORE MORE. You did 10 minutes? Great! Now do 15 more!!! When does it stop? If I already feel like I'm being tortured, why would I want to do MORE MORE MORE?

3) Lack of emotional and/or physical results
If I derived enjoyment from exercise, I'd probably be more inclined to do it. If I saw tangible results, I'd probably be more inclined to do it. Sadly for me, I get neither. Gym, classes, personal trainer, workout DvDs, none of it is really enjoyable for me.

I haven't seen any real, measureable results. I'm not asking for extraordinary results (although extraordinary results would probably motivate me to do MORE MORE MORE :) ). I just want to get a payoff commensurate with the effort I expend. And, aside from clothes feeling ever so slightly looser, I'm just not getting that.

I've also never, ever gotten that endorphin rush everyone promises, even when I do MORE MORE MORE. I've gone to classes and mingled with super sweaty spandex'd tanning booth babes who rub water bottles over their foreheads while grinning from ear to ear and proclaiming how Grrrrreat! they feel. Me, on the other hand, all I ever feel is drained and gross (and inadequate, because I don't feel grrrreat!). I've never, ever felt grrrreat after exercise. That leads me to the next point.

4) Sweat
I absolutely positively hate being sweaty. Plain and simple. Don't like the feeling at all. I avoid getting sweaty whenever I can. Because getting sweaty means that I have to...

5) Shower (and head to toe lotioning) after
It's required. I can't bring myself to just towel off and slap on more deoderant and cologne. I'd spend the rest of the day or night worrying that I was stinky and offending others. All together, it just sucks up soooooo much of the day.

So, all of this bundled together leads me to conclude I have some sort of Exercise Anxiety. I dread (in advance) how I know I'm going to feel after (yucky), so I avoid because I don't want to intentionally make myself feel so yucky for no tangible payoff. Then, I feel guilty for not doing it. So I end up feeling bad either way.

((sigh)) Don't think I've resolved anything with all this, but I guess it helps to try to sort through my thoughts. Thanks for your help.

Oh, and I'm one of those "older" people... and I don't walk like a snail :).

Ready2ShedLBS
04-20-2006, 01:28 AM
Well hopefully you will find something that you can do. What you may need to do is get some of the weight off through just dieting and then when you become lighter you will enjoy exercise more? I know when I was bigger I would have rather taken a beating than exercise.. it was so overwhelming, I was like man no amount of exercise is going to put a dent in this blubber. So I lost some weight through just dieting.. and did that until 70lbs later, granted it took a few years where as if I would have exercised it would have came off faster, but it came off none the less. Then I was like bump this.. Im gonna (as we say in the south) "Git'ter Done" Thats what I am doing currently. It feels great. Just work on positive affirmations and I think you will be ok. Losing weight is TRUELY more mental than it will ever be physical. The physical is the easier part, its getting over the mind block that is the true challenge. Good Luck, and you will do this! Im glad you dont walk like a snail :lol: means somewhere along the line you have been nice to your body.

Daisy Boo
04-20-2006, 01:48 AM
i apologise in advance if this seems rough.

if you want to lose weight, you have to do some sort of exercise. i am sure you could just watch what you ate and keep up with incidental exercise and the weight will come off eventually - but not in the same time frame as if you exercised. not to mention all the other health benefits from doing cardio of some sort on a regular basis.

don't get me wrong, i am not a gym junkie. i don't go to a gym - i work out at home. i get bored very easily and feeling like a big, fat slob is not motivating at all and it takes alot of pushing to do that extra bit of exercise that will make the difference (fingers crossed).

with all due respect, whats the big deal with having to have a shower? i work out in the afternoon when i get home from work and if i haven't the time to shower directly afterwards, i don't. however, i will have one before going to bed. a quick 5 minute shower never hurt nor did it make that much of a dent in my day time wise. all in all, it wouldn't be more than 15 mins out of your day would it? its not just that i might be a little smelly, but i know i don't want to get all pimply and breakout from not showing off the sweat.

for me, the way i see it is that i have to make exercising as routine as brushing my teeth in the morning or loading the dishwasher at night. if i see it as an additional chore, it puts me off. that voice in my head saying "oh, but you've had a rough day, why not just watch tv and take a load off for the night" or "what difference will it make anyway" is a constant battle that i need to get over. i agree that you must change your thinking towards exercise and just move. i don't think i hate exercise, more like i hate the idea of exercise. but once i get going and get it over with i feel like i have accomplished something and then to feel my muscles a little bit tight the next day is a reminder of how hard i worked the day before.

how about yoga or tai chi? i don't really sweat doing yoga, but geez can i feel it the next day.

the only thing i can suggest is that you find something that can be fun instead of old, dreary, repetitive workingout. perhaps team sports like volleyball, softball, netball or even tennis, squash, etc. yes you will get sweaty, but hey, that's seems to be part of the gig with exercise. you might not notice as much if you are distracted with the competition of the game or the people you play with.

alternatively, how about breaking your exercise up into groups throughout the day. do 10 minutes in the morning, 10 minutes in the afternoon and then another 10 in the evening. before you know it you have done 30 minutes of exercise for the day.

or a workout buddy. someone that you can talk to while working out might distract you from what you are doing a little bit.

you are just under the weight i am currently at and i know what you mean when you say that you don't fit the mold of a gym bunny and just feel drained afterwards. i think alot of us feel that. you have to remember that it is not a quick fix and it will take time and effort to reach your goal. you didn't put the weight on overnight, and it won't come off overnight either. think of the long term reward and not the short term ones. this is a constant battle for me too.

you know that you have to exercise and that is the bottom line. exercise = calories out, which is essential to weight loss.

friendlykat4u
04-20-2006, 11:21 AM
Lena: I'm with you! I absolutely hate working out. I hate gyms too. I used to belong to one years ago and I went faithfully 5 days a week for maybe a year or more. I did like the step aerobics, not b/c I could do them but b/c they had great dance music to it! :D

But even that wasn't enough motivation for me to keep going. I don't get the exercise "high" either. Exercise actually makes me very tired and sleepy.

I started working out at home about 4 weeks ago (using a Norditrack Eliptical), I do 20 mins in the a.m. NO WAY I can work out in the afternoon. After work I'm dead tired, I go home and cook dinner, and after that I just want to relax. I get home around 6 pm and go to bed around 10, so I don't have time for a big work out production either. I'm probably half asleep when I get on the machine in the morning (5:45), but somehow I manage not to fall from it...lol. :D It makes me feel better after b/c I got it done & out of the way. I do that 5 days a week, which for me is a HUGE step.

Elisha: I absolutely love your visualization thing, and you're not a weirdo, I think that's a great idea and I'm gonna try it too! :D

NotTheCheat: You just made me have a realization, maybe I hate exercise so much b/c I've always been overweight and my parents were always pushing to work out so I'd lose the weight. Plus I'm tall 5'10' and in high school they "made" me play basketball b/c of my height, nobody thought to ask if I'd enjoy it, and I hated every minute of it. I also saw it as torture! No wonder I hate it so much!

I guess it all boils down to finding something you enjoy. I went to ME (Acadia Natl Park) last year and I went on big hikes w/my husband every day and I loved it and wanted to keep going. But I have no nice mountains around here. A walk in the park is not the same. I like climbing on rocks and enjoying the ocean view. And I've always tought about martial arts, I'd love to join a class but I think I'm too out of shape to do that. Maybe once I get in better shape.

Fikustree: You're right, attitude determines a lot of things, but that's not something easy to change. Especially when you feel like you "have to" do things. But you're right on the money about evaluating what kind of person you are and figuring out what motivates the person. I guess that is the key to enjoying exercise. I gotta sit down and evaluate myself! :D THANKS!

Ready2Shed: Absofreakinglutely! Health is my biggest motivator right now. I went on a cruise in Feb, woke up in the middle of the night with bad pain in my arm. I immediately thought blood clot, heart attack, I was in tears and I was alone. I honestly thought I was going to die right then and there, ok I'm a little paranoid about that kind of stuff too I admit, but let me tell you, what a horrible feeling, I was so scared! I WANT to be healthy, vanity has moved so much lower on my list, not b/c I don't care how I look, of course I do! But health is such a precious thing that we have to take care of it. Once that's gone, nothing else seems to matter!

Wow.... sorry for the long post, I guess I had a lot to say! :D

midwife
04-20-2006, 12:28 PM
Friendlykat4u, Don't feel like you need to be in any sort of shape to begin martial arts. I joined taekwondo in January and hadn't been very faithful about exercising up to that point. Since then I have lost 14 lbs (slow I know--but I am not in any particular rush) just by going to classes and watching my portion sizes. You can work as hard as YOU need to, not as hard as anyone or everyone else. There are women of all ages and sizes and abilities in my program, and that is really what inspired me to join. I love the goals of achieving different belts. There is a cameraderie that develops. My muscles are stronger and leaner (and I can do real pushups now!) Everyone is very supportive of everyone else (kinda like here!). I love exercising in my bare feet, although others wear special shoes. In general, I dislike wearing shoes...

It is a great workout, that is true, but you start with what you can do and go from there. I can do a lot more now than I could in January. If you are thinking about it, maybe watch a class or two and then do a class or two...you'll start out as a beginner...just like everyone else in the school did! Those fast powerful blackbelts started out brand new one day...just like you!

Oh, and did I mention it is fun? An hour flies by and I am sorry it is done and time to go home. And then I look forward to the next day and the next class.

Ready2ShedLBS
04-20-2006, 01:19 PM
Ready2Shed: Absofreakinglutely! Health is my biggest motivator right now. I went on a cruise in Feb, woke up in the middle of the night with bad pain in my arm. I immediately thought blood clot, heart attack, I was in tears and I was alone. I honestly thought I was going to die right then and there, ok I'm a little paranoid about that kind of stuff too I admit, but let me tell you, what a horrible feeling, I was so scared! I WANT to be healthy, vanity has moved so much lower on my list, not b/c I don't care how I look, of course I do! But health is such a precious thing that we have to take care of it. Once that's gone, nothing else seems to matter!

Wow.... sorry for the long post, I guess I had a lot to say! :D

I know what you mean about that.. I used to have anxiety attacks all the time, which can be misconstrued as heart attacks.. I went the hospital alot because of it, they would shoot me up with demerol and send me on my crazy little way. It wasnt until I started exercising that they are almost no exsistance, I used to be able to count on them everyday. I lived my life in fear of one. Now.. I still get them from time to time, usually when I have been dealing with stress, but not like I used to.

NotTheCheat
04-20-2006, 01:49 PM
First, I don't think you need to wait to lose weight to exercise - bigger people can definitely exercise, they just need to modify things to fit their level. I am still over 300 pounds and I am at the gym usually at least 4 times a week. When I exercise at the right level, I really enjoy it. I am VERY careful not to push myself too hard (but enough) and to not compare myself with others.

Second, you do not need to exercise to lose weight. One of the biggest losers (in the nicest possible sense :)) on this site is Howie and he wasn't able to exercise because of his back: http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1186694#post1186694
Exercise helps in many ways, but it is not an absolute for losing weight.

friendlykat4u
04-20-2006, 02:16 PM
Midwife: How often do you go? Is it expensive? Unfortunately I'm on a very tight budget. But I've always thought about it, and funny how the mind works, but I never think of it as "exercise". I think that I'm interested in it b/c it's a mix of spiritual/body thing. Right now I'm doing WW and doing my 20 minute work out in the morning. I've lost 15 lbs in 5 weeks which is great. But I'm not in a rush either, as long as I'm moving in the right direction and changing my bad habits into good ones. :) Plus health is my main motivator right now. So the more things I do to improve it, the better. :) Do you have any recommendations as far as what things to look for in a place?

Ready2Shed: Make matters worse I also got very seasick! That was my 1st cruise ever, and probably the last one too! :D I'm glad you're doing better with the anxiety. :hug: It's terrible what stress does to you!

NotTheCheat: Thanks for the link, I'll have to check it out. :) I know that weight loss comes down to what you eat and how much you eat, and that exercise is a very important compliment, but working out alone won't get you results either. That's why I'm trying very hard to combine both b/c I'm an exercise hater...lol. But it's b/c I haven't found the right work out for me. I'm going to follow Midwife's advice and look into a martial art class. I think I'd enjoy it a lot.

midwife
04-20-2006, 02:58 PM
My membership is about $50/month...but that includes unlimited classes...and there are a TON of classes. I attend on average 5-7 classes a week, so 20 to 35 classes a month. The more I go the more of a bargain it is! My studio offers taekwondo, kick cardio, ju jitsu, hapkido, weapons and pilates. I go to taekwondo, kick cardio and pilates (I could do more, but I limit myself so that I can get other stuff done!). My "uniform" was included when I signed up, but the top has long sleeves so I bought a t-shirt. Now that I am moving along through the belts (barely, but it's there!) I bought a "hogu", which is protective gear for sparring. I bought it because my son also does it but is reluctant to spar so I wanted to get out there and show him how it's done! Haha! However, contact sparring is not required at my studio to move through the belts.

I also have a testing fee of about $45 per test, but most people only test 2-3 times a year, so that expense is spread out.

All of this applies to my studio, of course, but it is very close to the other martial arts studios in my town. There is one woman who takes taekwondo, weapons, hapkido, and kick cardio. She probably is there 15 or more hours a week. And she pays the same I do.

I figure about 2 bucks a class ain't too bad! Regular gyms in my town charge $99 a month.

If you want, PM me and I will send a link to my studio. Mine is family owned, and I love supporting local family owned businesses. Adult class members range from moms and dads of kid students, to college students, to single kid-free adults, to a guy who qualified for the Olympics. There is a wide range of talents and physical fitness! But the moms who have been doing it for awhile have ALL shared that they have lost weight, whether it was intentional or not. It just really works to bounce up and down and kick and hit things.

HTH!

Less of Lena
04-20-2006, 07:16 PM
Seems like finding the "right" form of exercise is as much a matter of trial and error as anything else. Lots of good suggestions from folks here of different things to experiment with.

Finding something that's both enjoyable AND can fit into one's lifestyle can be a challenge, though. Example: as I mentioned in a prior post, I enjoy golf even though I'm not very good at it. I'm willing to tolerate the sweatiness it creates because I enjoy the game. However, even a 9-hole run (about 80-90 minutes of actual play-time) takes a good 4 hour chunk out of the day when you factor in driving time, set up, driving immediately back home and showering up after. I don't know about you, but I just can't afford that more than once or twice a week. And we aren't even talking about the financial hit.

Today, I took several short walks (trying to hit that 10K mark). Nothing long enough to get outrageously sweaty, so no extra showers necessary. I also did some lifting. Nothing a trainer would be impressed by (they'd probably just yell MORE MORE MORE!!!!), but some.

I don't want to throw in the towel. I just want to get a (realistic) payoff commensurate with the effort expended. You see that 19 pounds lost in my ticker? It's been there for over a month. It's been fluctuating up and down by about a pound and a half in half pound increments since mid-March. That's not motivating in the least.

Oh, and Daisy, no offense taken, dear! But I do challenge you to take a shower, dry off, completely lotion up from head to toe (skipping lotioning more than once or twice a week isn't really an option for me), get dressed and clean up the bathroom in 5 minutes or even 15 minutes. And I'm not even talking about doing hair or makeup. I've timed myself and I can't do it, and I think I'm pretty efficient.

SilverVixen
04-20-2006, 07:51 PM
The only thing I can say is that you have to decide what you hate more. You have to decide that you hate being overweight more than you hate exercise.

I made the decision eight months ago that I was going to change my body for good and that it would mean sacrifices to get what I wanted. I knew it was going to be a long and frustrating journey, but I was determined to get there.

While I may not "looove" exercise, I find that I am addicted to it, or more specifically, addicted to the benefits it brings me. I love how good I physically feel, the energy I have, and I love my sleeker body. It may take some sweat, but boy, is it worth it! :D

Regards,

~Silvervixen

Ready2ShedLBS
04-21-2006, 12:21 PM
Losing weight before starting working out was just a suggestion. Sometimes people find it easier to start working out after losing some weight.

nelie
04-21-2006, 12:50 PM
Lena, I love love love love weights and when I lost around 70 lbs the year before last, it involved very little cardio and mostly weights. All stuff you probably already know but muscle burns fat, muscle helps define your shape, etc etc. I can understand your frustration, I've been watching my food and exercising for over a month and the scale hasn't budged. I stare at it in disbelief as it mocks me. I have to use other things to measure my improvements such as my clothes fit looser and I notice my endurance is better. How do I go from not watching my food too carefully and irregular exercise to watching the foods I eat and my portions plus adding in regular exercise but yet nothing from the scale? I don't know. Usually you lose weight and then hit a plateau instead I hit a plateau without losing weight.

tomei
04-21-2006, 03:13 PM
I am the same way. I hate walking, I hated cardio after a while, I hate kickboxing, I hate hate hate the dance cardio videos, I hate dancing (which explains the former) and probably just about anything else in the same group. I do love Swimming though, but the pool here is always crowded by the time I get up.

My solution was DDR. Dance Dance Revolution who don't know it, is a Video Game where you try to hit some arrows on a pad with your feet to music. I have always been a Gamer and always loved DDR, so when I was looking for a solution for getting in my workout, I thought of it and it works great. The arrows distract me enough so that I don't notice how much my body is tired or hurt, and there are so many songs (and mixes) you can choose from that it doesn't get boring. You can also unlock songs, characters, and etc.

You just have to keep looking untill you find something right for you. My problem was mostly that the pain ended up distracting me too much, so I got something that was distracting! It's not too costly either, around $100 for the game and a good pad (2" foam, don't get the little cheap thin pads that are $10.. get a nice one for $40). That's very good considering I don't have the money to go to a gym every week.

Ready2ShedLBS
04-22-2006, 09:55 AM
all off subject and not that important.. but If you hate dancing why did you get a dancing video game?? Just the fact that its a video game?

kookiemonster
04-23-2006, 11:11 PM
I've been excersizing only since january this year trying to get in 3 runs a week, and although I really like running, just getting myself out the door is still hard. It's like a mental game with yourself and eventually I just force myself to, but I know it's worth it.

Honestly, the only thing keeping me going everyweek was signing up for a race, that way I had to do the training in order to do the race. Now that it's over I'm looking for a new one to keep going. :)

Now working on strength training is another story lol, maybe in the future...