General chatter - American Idol returns - Was anyone else bothered?




Suzanne 3FC
01-19-2006, 02:07 AM
I used to love American Idol but I was completely unimpressed, yet slightly bothered by the season opener. I thought the judges were unusually cruel. It's one thing if someone comes in and it's obvious that they are just there for the attention, and have to know that they are not talented. But some people really do believe in themselves, and walk away crushed by ruthless insults by the judges. They didn't just insult their talents, but also made cruel remarks about their size, etc.

Is it just me? :?:


less me
01-19-2006, 02:12 AM
I use to love the show but as i see anybody is going to hollywood:mad:

4myloves
01-19-2006, 09:41 AM
I didn't watch the opener this year. I've decided to wait until they actually get to Hollywood just BECAUSE of the way the first shows are handled.

I'll tune in in a few weeks!


cinnamonspice
01-19-2006, 10:31 AM
I love AI, but I agree. I couldn't believe that they let the small little cowboy dude go through. Randy asked him if he had ever been on a plane, I feel like they were making fun of him because he is a small town guy. God knows the kid couldn't sing a note properly.

LaurieM35
01-19-2006, 11:47 AM
I love the AI show and really like watching the opener but some of the people they let through are just going to get their hearts pounded in Hollywood!!

jillybean720
01-19-2006, 01:10 PM
I watch the first audition episodes of the show purely for entertainment value. It really bothers me how many of the hopefuls leave crying and all angry, hurt, or upset at the judges, and yet they say that this is what they've been working for their whole life, blah blah blah...if that were true, they would have been rejected plenty of times before, so they wouldn't get so bent out of shape about this one! I was a Music Industry minor in college, so I knew a LOT of people who were trying to make it as performers--major critique and rejection are part of the game!

Idealperson
01-19-2006, 01:12 PM
I actually thought that the cowboy could sing and I was glad that he is getting some experience away from his sheltered life. I heard on the radio that one set of the twins from the first night have already been eliminated for buying a car using false indentification. I still love the whole show-start to finish, but I do think that some of the winners didn't deserve the title...like Fantasia and Rubin over Clay! :dancer:

Danzer5570
01-19-2006, 01:34 PM
I love the show, and the insults are what makes people want to watch. I have to admit it's so funny to see the judges' faces when they hear someone singing really bad. Some comments Simon makes are rude, but he's just a truthful guy. I think the thing he said about the bigger girl ("do we have a bigger stage this year") was going a little too far, however. Maybe he's going through some problems himself...he looks like he's gained a little weight. :p And Paula seems to be a little meaner than previous season...probably cuz she doesn't like all the publicity Simon gets for being mean.

FrouFrou
01-19-2006, 02:09 PM
I didn't see it Tuesday night but did watch last night. While I agree with Simon most of the time because he is being honest...I feel telling someone they are useless as he did last night was so very wrong. And the cowboy, I do think he had a voice, he just picked the wrong song and was nervous as ****. I also applaud the judges for letting him go through. At least he will get to experience something he has never experienced in his life, even if it is only to fly on a plane once or twice and that I think he will cherish the rest of his life.

What kills me is the ones that really think they can sing and then get angry because they are told they can't. Okay...they usually are there with family members and what the heck is wrong with them for letting their kids go that far only to be crushed? If my kid couldn't carry a tune I would be honest with them and tell them. I wouldn't let them do something that would or could possibly destroy them for the rest of their life. If they really wanted to sing and I knew that they can't, I would help them with getting voice lessons or whatever before they went that far.

That Zachary guy cracked me up because he/she couldn't sing and they told him so. So he got mad and said they were prejudiced. Ummm, excuse me. You dress like a girl but you get mad when people think you are a girl because you are a boy and then you can't carry a tune what-so-ever, please!

Anyway, I only watch the auditions because they are funny. Once they are through with them I am through with the show. It just gets a little boring after the first show. I mean, how many American Idol shows can they keep having? The only one I watched the whole way through was when Kelly Clarkson won.

NotTheCheat
01-19-2006, 02:53 PM
There were some pretty cruel comments, but that seems pretty par for the course with this show. I think they think that is what people want to see. I have no problem with pointing out someone can't sing, but some of the things did seem a little cruel. Like the tanned girl and asking her mother to come in to figure out how she could have become the way she was. Whether they like her look and think she can sing it doesn't give them the right to belittle both her and her mother for who they are. Or I guess they do have a right because at this point people should know better. We have all seen how they behave so it shouldn't come as a great surprise to the contestants. The remark about the one girl's size was definitely uncalled for - I am just glad they didn't do it while she was there.

At the same time, I am constantly amazed at how clueless people are about their own singing abilities. You would think at that point someone around them would have taken them aside and leveled with them. I also wish they would show people their performances taped and ask them again. Seeing and hearing yourself on video is an eye opening experience.

The one that got me was the guy dressed as the statue of liberty. I couldn't figure out why Simon stopped him so abruptly - the first two notes he sang sounded fine. There was possibly more to the audition that we didn't see, but that one seemed really abrupt.

happydaisy
01-19-2006, 03:03 PM
I was actually kind of glad they let cowboy guy go through. Just the experience of being on a plane and in a hotel will be so mind-blowing for him. I thought it was so cute when he was like "I've never really been out in public before." What I don't get is why they let "I talk to animals" guy through...:dizzy:

veggie
01-19-2006, 07:55 PM
Unusually cruel? Sounds great! ;) It is on here tomorrow for a very long 2 hours 50 mins or something! :eek: I'll record it and watch it in bits.

LockItUp
01-19-2006, 08:08 PM
I do think that some of the comments were mean, but mostly they're funny. You gotta realize too that they sit there for hours listening to people who should know that they suck, we only see a portion of it.

Ok, but the one that got me cracking up was the Deputy singing "I shot the sheriff but I didn't shoot the deputy", over and over and over and over. Or that one chick that sang "Blue moon, you knew just what I was there for" over and over, then broke into "When will my reflection show" and back to "Blue moon", I mean I guess it's sad in a way, but why in the heck didn't some one tell them they can't sing to save them the embarassment. I think that if some one is gonna be mad at the judges first they should be mad at the people who heard that horrible voice and encouraged them to go anyway, knowing.

ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE JUDGES ARE MEAN! What do they expect???

And I agree that some of the ones who have won didn't really deserve it. But then again I think sometimes they eliminate really good singers before the final few!

Kamily828
01-19-2006, 10:13 PM
That Zachary guy cracked me up because he/she couldn't sing and they told him so. So he got mad and said they were prejudiced. Ummm, excuse me. You dress like a girl but you get mad when people think you are a girl because you are a boy and then you can't carry a tune what-so-ever, please!


I thought the same thing. If you dont want to be mistaken for a girl, wear boy clothes!

almostheaven
01-20-2006, 12:15 AM
Everyone who goes on that show knows they may be rejected. Some of them know they will be rejected, but want their 10 seconds of fame. They all know that Simon will likely insult them unless they're something spectacular, which 99.9% of them are not. Yet they go anyway. It's all part of the show. It's like watching an episode of Jerry Springer without having any clothes ripped off. Yet people go on Springer too...knowing they're going to be insulted. Knowing they're making a spectacle of themselves. I figure if they don't mind it enough to put themselves on such display, I don't mind watching them make a fool of themself. ;)

jillybean720
01-20-2006, 07:57 AM
Everyone who goes on that show knows they may be rejected. Some of them know they will be rejected, but want their 10 seconds of fame. They all know that Simon will likely insult them unless they're something spectacular, which 99.9% of them are not. Yet they go anyway. It's all part of the show. It's like watching an episode of Jerry Springer without having any clothes ripped off. Yet people go on Springer too...knowing they're going to be insulted. Knowing they're making a spectacle of themselves. I figure if they don't mind it enough to put themselves on such display, I don't mind watching them make a fool of themself. ;)
Yeah, but the people on Springer get paid to be on the show. These people volunteer to be spectacles :p

grapecoffee
01-20-2006, 09:37 AM
OKay, I have to say I only watch American Idol the first 2 weeks. I, personally, loved the little cowboy. He was the sweetest and you could hear he had talent, but he didn't have training. He had charisma, he made me want to smile anyway. I would love to see him win it, but there is the fact that he has never had a very public life. I think that might make him uncomfortable and keep him from being a fantastic singer.

Then again, I liked the red haired boy who sang the old school songs.

charliekay
01-20-2006, 11:10 AM
i love that show,and to me they didn't seem any different then other years,i love it.i wish i could sing real good,i would love to be on that show.

almostheaven
01-20-2006, 11:19 AM
Yeah, but the people on Springer get paid to be on the show. These people volunteer to be spectacles :p
Think it has anything to do with the nudity bit? Maybe AI participants should start taking off some clothes. :D

sabriena
01-20-2006, 11:29 AM
I haven't watched this seasons show yet. I usually watch the beginning of the shows and then stop when they pick them and go to hollywood.

They probably are being meaner than the other seasons because that's why a lot of people tune into it. Especially after what, 4 years of the show it gets stale. They have to try to do something to keep the audience coming back!

jillybean720
01-20-2006, 11:58 AM
I honestly don't think they're being any meaner this season than in the previous seasons. I think it just always seems worst in these first audition episodes because you see SO MANY bad performances whereas for the rest of the season, you only see people who at least have a shred of talent. It's not like the judges have ever really been "nice" in the past.

Simon's comment about the larger woman ("do we have a bigger stage this year?") was actually the only "fat" comment he made, and he didn't even do it to upset her since she was leaving and didn't hear. That's MUCH nicer than he's been in the past--remember the blonde twins last season? He called them fat right to their faces and told them to lose weight even though they were maybe 150-160 pounds and rather tall.

charliekay
01-20-2006, 12:00 PM
no they shure haven't been nicer in the past,but i love simon,i think he is soo cute!!!

EZMONEY
01-20-2006, 12:27 PM
I have watched American Idol since the start. Each season has become more rehearsed ~ edited ~ and boring....we wade through all the idiotic " I NEED attention" stiffs to see the few unscripted naturally funny ones. If we didn't watch, they wouldn't show them. The ratings are higher than ever.

The he/she IT got EXACTLY what it wanted! The freak will be able to tell the story EVERY FREAKIN' DAY for the rest of it's life ~~ and IT will! Crying "why can't they accept me for who I am?" when their entire lives they scream out "look at me EVERYBODY I am differen't!"

Rehearsed ~ Edited ~ Predictable ~

Watching every minute of it ;)

jas80
01-20-2006, 01:00 PM
the super tan plastic girl made me giggle. reminded me so much of paris hilton it was disgusting.

jillybean720
01-20-2006, 01:05 PM
the super tan plastic girl made me giggle. reminded me so much of paris hilton it was disgusting.
Yeah, and that she auditioned TWICE--they showed clips of her in 2 different outfits. She reminded me a LOT of Ashlee Simpson :dizzy:

Tani
01-20-2006, 07:27 PM
Yeah, and that she auditioned TWICE--they showed clips of her in 2 different outfits. She reminded me a LOT of Ashlee Simpson :dizzy:

I saw that too! I thought I was imagining things ;)

almostheaven
01-20-2006, 10:12 PM
Paris Hilton was the first thing came to my mind when I saw that freak show! I wouldn't have such a problem with the tan thing IF she didn't have such an ATTITUDE! I like how Simon goes "Tell us about the tan" and she responds about who she is, so he again says "Tell us about the tan" and she starts talking about what she's going to sing, so he sighs and again says "Tell us about the tan", and Miss Tude goes "That doesn't have anything to do with the audition". Uh oh! You do NOT tell the judges that your appearance, personality, OR voice have nothing to do with an audition for an IDOL. This isn't JUST a singing contest. You can be the best singer in the world, but if your tude sucks, who's gonna be interested in listening to you?

Fat in Hong Kong
01-21-2006, 12:59 AM
I haven't got a problem with the judges criticising their singing ability ... if they're crap, they're crap, and need to be told. And if they are obvious time wasters, I say get rid of them before they open their mouth. But I do feel that the comments Simon made to the young 17 year old girl wearing her prom dress were totally outrageous ... I felt so sorry for her I could have cried! His comments to her were totally unecessary, she must have been crushed poor kid.

However, no matter how much some of the comments make me cringe, I am addicted to watching the whole show from start to finish!:D

almostheaven
01-21-2006, 12:37 PM
I haven't got a problem with the judges criticising their singing ability ... if they're crap, they're crap, and need to be told. And if they are obvious time wasters, I say get rid of them before they open their mouth. But I do feel that the comments Simon made to the young 17 year old girl wearing her prom dress were totally outrageous ... I felt so sorry for her I could have cried! His comments to her were totally unecessary, she must have been crushed poor kid.
The only problem with it though is they are there to be judged on how well they can be an "idol", not just a singer. And Simon's comments on the dress were hitting on the problem with that one. Idols don't wear prom dresses on stage. They have individuality, but they also have flare and style. A prom dress just isn't an idol type style. They're looking for those that have the voice, and can dress the part, act the part, have the winning personality and all.

jas80
01-21-2006, 01:06 PM
She reminded me a LOT of Ashlee Simpson :dizzy:

...now that you mention it.

LOL

Catsgetnhealthy
01-21-2006, 01:33 PM
What I don't get is why they let "I talk to animals" guy through...
*****
Just to get at Simon, I think.

Eldubu
01-23-2006, 11:59 AM
I was pretty choked! Did anyone else notice all the bigger men getting in, but when a large woman goes through, Simon makes the "do we have a bigger stage this year" comment. He's an arse!
As for the talent...oh my! Some of these people are insane! Do they really think they're talented? I mean, I would never dream of telling someone that their singing was horrible, but they are going on a show where they KNOW they will be criticized. I thought it was mean how they called in the mom of the girl who wore loads of makeup and tanned, so they could laugh at them both! What about the girl who sang a song with swearing in it? NICE! Way to win them over!
Does anyone else wonder why Paula Abdul was picked as a judge? She seems like she might be nice and all, but she is not a good singer herself. I only watch the beginning, because I get a kick out of the people who try to get in. It's entertainment. I do feel sorry for some of them, though, I am kind of embarassed for them. They go in there with real expectations and get kicked down pretty harshly sometimes. Oh well, it's part of the package, I guess.
Why does it seem so many of the contestants who truly CAN'T sing, always say their mom encouraged them to go on there because "she says I am so talented"? That's a cruel Mom! I guess all mom's think their babies are special, but....

:eek: :nono: :barf: :shrug: :fr: :faint: :no: :ziplip: :tape:

liz321
01-24-2006, 12:00 PM
I don't think Simon or Randy sing either.....not sure how they picked the judges.

What ever happens to the winners of American Idol? I know about Kelly Clarkson........but are the rest doing anything worth mentioning?

Liz

jillybean720
01-24-2006, 12:19 PM
I don't think Simon or Randy sing either.....not sure how they picked the judges.
Simon is a big-wig for the record company that offers the winner a recording contract. Randy is (or was?) a producer, I believe--he often mentions how he worked with stars like Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. As for Paula, I don't think they got her for her singing ability (obviously), but rather because she is a package performer. She is a singer/dancer/performer, which is what I think they look for in an American Idol: the package deal.

I think it's a good mix of opinions. Paula comes from the performing side, Randy comes from the producing/studio side, and Simon comes from the "how-can-we-make-money-off-this-performer?" side :dizzy:

Kelly Clarkson has done quite well for herself, but not until a few years AFTER she won AI. Ruben had a horrible single released called "I'm Sorry 2004" (made VH-1's top 10 worst songs of 2004 list, I believe). He and Fantasia I guess have a few singles out that get played primarily on R&B stations and not really pop stations, whereas Kelly's music is more widespread. I also have only heard Carrie Underwood's first single once or twice--I'm guessing she maybe performs mostly country now? I really think they need to pick an idol who is happy in the pop realm in order to actually fulfill what fans are looking to get from the show, ya know?

Eldubu
01-25-2006, 05:29 PM
You know, I am enjoying watching the show right now, because it makes me feel very good about myself! Hahaha!
Did anyone else get choked up and get chills hearing that young girl sing? The one who sang "Cowboy Take Me Away", which I thought she sung even better than the Dixie Chicks! I almost cried hearing her! She had BETTER make it into at least the top 10!
I am not even going to get into the whole thing about that Rhonetta chick...yikes!
I was mad though, that they didn't let the ventriloquist in, he was a good singer. I was very happy for a number of the people who got in, so far they have chosen a few, though, who really shouldn't have made it, but I guess it's nice to give others a chance. I guess they'll get weeded out in the first few weeks of actual competition. I may actually find myself watching the whole thing this season.
:dizzy:

almostheaven
01-25-2006, 09:14 PM
Forget the Idol winners. Most people listen to the losers. Clay is at the top of all of them, and I love Kimberly Locke's "8th World Wonder".

1dayatatime
01-26-2006, 09:29 AM
I'll be honest, I never watch this show. I've never watched this show and have never had an interest in watching this show. BUT the other night I did catch a couple of the people, including the little squeaky voice girl that had the most awesome voice I've heard in a while. When she came out of the doors, it made me tear up. She seemed really genuine and was extremely talented.

Whether I watch from here on out, we'll have to see. I doubt it but I might check in to see how that young lady is doing.

kmccann
01-26-2006, 08:25 PM
I am a loyal idol watcher. I have watched every season so far and have come close to picking the winner every year. I know, I need to get a life. I just love it because I love to sing and I love music and it's also funny to watch people make fools of themselves.

I think the girl that sang the Martina McBride song, her last name is Pickler, from Albemarle, NC will at least be in the top 10 this year. I am a little bias because I live in NC but the ones from here have done okay for themselves so far. Fantansia has a lot of songs that are on the R&B stations and I think Clay is doing well on gospel and love songs mostly.

Claire de Ravin
01-27-2006, 12:40 PM
I also thought the make-up girl looked like Ashlee Simpson! I thought I was seeing things.

There are a few people who shouldn't have made it through in my opinion.

What did you guys think of Simon's dramatic leave on Wednesday's episode?

jillybean720
01-27-2006, 01:32 PM
What did you guys think of Simon's dramatic leave on Wednesday's episode?
What a little drama queen! Like he's never had to put up with comments from the other 2 before? I understand being frustrated, but he is also there to do a job, and there were still contestants to be seen.

almostheaven
01-27-2006, 01:56 PM
What a little drama queen! Like he's never had to put up with comments from the other 2 before? I understand being frustrated, but he is also there to do a job, and there were still contestants to be seen.
All part of the act. Kinda like when one of the other's got all hissy and went missing in the first or second season.

jillybean720
01-27-2006, 02:00 PM
All part of the act.
haha, oh, I know, but it actually turns me OFF of the show more than it makes me want to watch. I mean, they had ads for that part all week ("this week on American Idol: what could cause Simon to storm out of the audition room?!"), and I knew it was just going to be something stupid and not really a big deal. I prefer the drama come from the contestants and not the "experts." But I suppose all the little 12-year olds out there thought it was a big deal ;)

Safiyah_is_Fluffy
01-27-2006, 07:38 PM
gawd I can't believe some of the people, I was embarassed for them....

PeekabooICU
01-28-2006, 11:46 AM
I wonder what the ones who really think they can sing, think when they do see and hear themselves on tv. I bet alot of them will say they had an "off" day rather than realize that they really can't sing.

I think Simon can be too cruel tho. To tell someone that they look like the Incredible Hulk's wife? Thats terrible. Or to tell them they are fat. There are much nicer ways of just saying no without making a person feel horrible about how they look. Sometimes he gives really constructive criticism but it is very rare. He is at his worst when the audition shows are on.

tobetheman
01-28-2006, 02:25 PM
I was not gonna watch any of this season,my parents do all the time, esp. the beginning and end (sometimes skipping the mid shows). Then i heard about the attitude and I tuned in. Yep, there ruder but it's entertaining as heck. Let's not forget these people are trying to enter into a industry that is plagued by the very things they are attacking competitors on. No offense to all of them, but a few do deserve some hard criticism. I still like simon the most, don't care for the other two. simon, is okay and honest at times, others he's just a plain jerk. oh, well.

techwife
01-31-2006, 06:41 PM
I was so happy for the cowboy dude. I may be seeing things, but he reminded me of a very young, geeky Chris Isaac. I think he has the potential and Simon saw it. I get really mad at Simon, but I think sometimes he's only saying what most people are thinking, but are too afraid to say so. My predictions are that the girl that was there with her famous Aunt that Randy knew will go very far. She was from NC. She was AWESOME. So was the blond girl with the pink top that was brought up by her grandfather because she was ditched by both parents...at least ditched by her mom...I can't remember what happened to dad. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with the cowboy kid, though, once they clean him up. And I also liked the girl with the red flowered dress that sang the Bjork song. She had a lot of confidence in herself and that is really awesome.

okay..let's see what horrors tonight brings us! I dont' even want to talk about the crappy ones because..well..Simon has said enough for all of us, I think. ;)

atamata
02-01-2006, 01:38 AM
I've only watched one or two shows recently. And yeah, I must agree that people deserve the criticism. Someone's gotta tell them they can't sing or hold a note... or for some to not hold the note for so long! But i don't agree with the judges criticising how one looked or dressed or what not. That was just plain rude, it's nto constructive critasism, no matter what anyone says.

*for some odd reason, i can't spell critasism correct*

jillybean720
02-01-2006, 07:58 AM
But i don't agree with the judges criticising how one looked or dressed or what not. That was just plain rude, it's nto constructive critasism, no matter what anyone says.
I do think it is necessary to comment on clothing or overall "look" or appearance. I mean, they're not looking for just a singer--they need someone they can sell, and it's a package deal: talent AND visual appeal. I know I can sing, but I know that at 280-something pounds, I would never be the next American Idol :dizzy: Also, if these people really plan on making it in the entertainment industry, physical appearance will be a major factor at ANY audition, screening, interview, etc., so they need to be told if that appearance is hurting their odds.

techwife
02-01-2006, 08:21 AM
I agree that people need to be told that they don't have the correct look for the business, but Simon is so rude. I mean, sure, telling someone honestly that their size is a deterrant for their success in the field is being honest, or to tell someone that they need to ditch wierd clothes or maybe tell them to calm down a bit on the high notes or to flat-out say they cannot sing is fine. But, when a large man is trying his best and Simon says, as he's leaving, 'is there any food left at the buffet?' or something to that effect was soooo uncalled for. I know he said something about lunch.

And, I'm also mad at some of these people's friends. I mean, that guy with the American Flags shirt was so genuine in thinking he'd go somewhere and he seemed to have a small posse of friends waiting for him. I was shattered at his results and felt so sorry for him. His friends needed to be more honest with him in telling him he really shouldn't humiliate himself by singing in front of Simon Cowell. BUT, I also wonder at some of these people's genuineness and sadness being a little bit show and played-up drama...I mean, they HAVE to know, at the end of the day, that they just don't have it going on...you know?

And then, when I WISH they'd shown Simon's reaction, they don't...Like when that girl came out in those painted-on jeans singing "I like big butts and I cannot lie" and spanking her fanny, etc. Now, THAT is a reation I would have liked to have seen from Simon.

And what was up with Paula not liking the girl that sang "Redneck Woman"? I thought she was great!!

Any other comments on last night's show?

techwife
02-01-2006, 08:22 AM
OH...and what about that guy with the goth/evil voice? He sounded like Satan barfing!! Holy Toledo!!

2CMEAGAIN
02-01-2006, 08:57 AM
I LOVE AI!!!!:D Simon is to die for~such a hoot!I did hate the bigger stage comment because that girl & her friends & family would have seen it & how embarrassing for her!!!!
I thought some good singers didn't go through & couldn't believe it!!!!
I too think Clay should have won & Fantasia not~that voice gets on my nerves!!!!:dizzy: She seems like a nice girl though.Carrie definitely should have won!!!!She's the whole package!!!:carrot:
This year should be interesting!!!

almostheaven
02-01-2006, 10:30 AM
I do think it is necessary to comment on clothing or overall "look" or appearance. I mean, they're not looking for just a singer--they need someone they can sell, and it's a package deal: talent AND visual appeal. I know I can sing, but I know that at 280-something pounds, I would never be the next American Idol :dizzy: Also, if these people really plan on making it in the entertainment industry, physical appearance will be a major factor at ANY audition, screening, interview, etc., so they need to be told if that appearance is hurting their odds.
Exactly. If it were JUST based on singing, there would not be an age requirement. Why? Because no one wants grandma as the next American Idol. What teenager would go to see her sing? Even if she had the best voice around.

[I agree that people need to be told that they don't have the correct look for the business, but Simon is so rude.
Which is another reason these people would never make it. They would get much ruder comments than that, and publicly posted in magazines and papers around the world, if they did manage to become successful. The world's a cruel place. If they can't hack it at the first audition, they'll never be able to hack being an idol anyway. I believe Simon has even mentioned this before when his rudeness has been commented on. But Simon is one of the guys who hires people like that. He's the one you have to impress. So when they tell him he's rude, they're not impressing him and he's not going to want to hire them.

atamata
02-01-2006, 02:47 PM
Which is another reason these people would never make it. They would get much ruder comments than that, and publicly posted in magazines and papers around the world, if they did manage to become successful. The world's a cruel place. If they can't hack it at the first audition, they'll never be able to hack being an idol anyway. I believe Simon has even mentioned this before when his rudeness has been commented on. But Simon is one of the guys who hires people like that. He's the one you have to impress. So when they tell him he's rude, they're not impressing him and he's not going to want to hire them.

I never thought of that. but that is a good point.

lakynsmom
02-01-2006, 06:24 PM
I too think Clay should have won & Fantasia not~that voice gets on my nerves!!!!

Wasn't Clay in competition with Ruben, and Fantasia on the season after them?

almostheaven
02-01-2006, 09:24 PM
Wasn't Clay in competition with Ruben, and Fantasia on the season after them?
Yup. I don't recall the runner ups with Fantasia, but with Ruben, both runner ups (Clay Aiken and Kimberly Locke) have made it bigger than Ruben ever will.

techwife
02-03-2006, 11:51 AM
Was anyone else as torked off as me about the sack of potatoes comment by Simon? :mad: Gawd...what a jerk!

FrouFrou
02-03-2006, 01:59 PM
I don't think Simon is so rude, just telling it like it is because no one else will. As far as telling someone they are useless, yes, but the comments about the clothes, etc. no. American Idol is not just about the singing, but also about an image. Of course you wouldn't know that by the people picking Fantasia! What were they thinking?!

LaurieM35
02-05-2006, 09:25 AM
I kinda felt like crying for some of those contestants, but you know the way some of them were singing or atleast claimed to be doing, what more can you expect.

almostheaven
02-05-2006, 11:13 AM
I kinda felt like crying for some of those contestants, but you know the way some of them were singing or atleast claimed to be doing, what more can you expect.
That they never try that again in public? :D

Siena1383
02-05-2006, 09:17 PM
I watched it last year for the first time, and I don't remember the comments being as malicious as they are this year. I do think the judges ought to try and maintain some semblance of respect for the people trying out, no matter how ridiculous they are. It's just wrong for them to be laughing at them. Even if they wait until the contestant is gone, that person will see the laughter and hear the comments when s/he watches the show on TV.

Re the cowboy, I think they were right to let him go to Hollywood. I think the decision was partially because they wanted him to have the experience, but his voice is good enough to at least let him go one more round, even if he isn't likely to be a finalist.

I wish they'd show all the contestants.

jillybean720
02-06-2006, 07:34 AM
I wish they'd show all the contestants.
Wow, that would take FOREVER :dizzy:

I would like to point out that a lot of the bad singers that we see auditioning have been put through to audition BECAUSE they are bad--for entertainment purposes. From my understanding, singing in front of those 3 judges is NOT the very first round of auditions--they must first sing for little unknown network representatives who then say whether or not to send them on to Randy, Paula, and Simon. Otherwise, they would never have time to really audition ALL of the thousands of hopefuls at each location.

And EVERY year, people say Simon is meaner than the year before, but I think if you go back and watch these first audition episodes of any season, you'll see he's not really changed. We just become more used to hearing him give the more constructive criticism in the later rounds, I think :)

veggie
02-06-2006, 08:09 AM
Yes the first auditions are in the stadiums, they show the stadium shots so I don't think they are really hiding that bit. Simon is hilarious, on the X Factor (similar show with added all ages and groups) in the UK, he said a female trio looked like before, during and after of weight watchers, that made me howl and I'm bigger than any of the trio. They all must know what they are getting into when they audition by now!