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DonnaS
01-10-2006, 10:20 PM
Has anyone used or seen the Supreme Pilates machine that Gunthy Renker has out?

It's portable, so I'm leary about the flimsyness of it so to speak.

It would really be ideal right now, while we are remodeling the basement into a workout area, if it solid and I can fold it up and put it away, I'd be willing to spend the money, the basement isn't going to be finished for a while (6 months), and it would give me something to vary my routine with.


Suzanne 3FC
01-10-2006, 10:46 PM
Someone else mentioned that the other day, and she also wanted some testimonials before buying. I've not been able to find a website for it. Do you recall if the infomercial mentioned a website? I have a regular pilates machine and love it, but I'm curious to see what everyone is talking about :)

DonnaS
01-10-2006, 10:59 PM
I happen to have it in my favorites, incase I decide I do want to buy.:)

http://www.supremepilates.com/

It's almost $300, probably a little over with shipping, I haven't gotten that detailed in it yet, I caught the tail end of the infomercial. The portability is what I'm really interested in, but if it portible and not solid, then it's a waste of money.


DonnaS
01-10-2006, 11:00 PM
I have a regular pilates machine and love it, but I'm curious to see what everyone is talking about :)

Once we have our basement done, I want a regular pilates machine. A friend from work has one, and took me over to her house at lunch, I'm in love.

MrsJim
01-10-2006, 11:42 PM
I happen to have it in my favorites, incase I decide I do want to buy.:)

http://www.supremepilates.com/

It's almost $300, probably a little over with shipping, I haven't gotten that detailed in it yet, I caught the tail end of the infomercial. The portability is what I'm really interested in, but if it portible and not solid, then it's a waste of money.

$300 is EXTREMELY cheap for a reformer...and looking at the picture, I can see why. I dunno, it just looks rinkydink to me...too short for one; how are you supposed to lie down on it? How much weight is it supposed to support? The website doesn't give any info on that.

http://www.supremepilates.com/images/3a.jpg

I searched "Pilates Reformer" on Amazon and came up with a few choices, including this Stamina Pilates Performer (http://www.pilatesequipmentdirect.com/catalog/shopping/Stamina_Pilates_Performer__8482__Pilates_Reformer) at $279.00:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BNTQ4C.01-A3SHHEDXIOES3R._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

or for a few dollars more (currently $299) there's this "premier" reformer that looks a LOT more sturdy (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000AMRN1C/qid=1136950804/sr=8-6/ref=pd_bbs_6/103-3265130-0173416?v=glance&s=sporting-goods&n=507846)than the Supreme Pilates setup, at the same price:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000AMRN1C.01.PT01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

If you *do* plan on buying the Supreme Pilates machine, I would advise trying to find somewhere that sells it where you can view it *in person* and try it out before you buy - yup I KNOW they say "30 day money back guarantee* and yada yada but you still have to pay the shipping back to them...which can add up to a pretty penny!

Suzanne 3FC
01-10-2006, 11:53 PM
It seems awfully expensive for what it is. They offer a 30 day refund policy, but you have to pay shipping. It's $39.95 shipping to you, and goodness knows how much to send it back, so you could still be out a big chunk if you aren't happy with it.

I can't imagine that it would be a better option than, say, getting the Winsor Pilates DVD set that doesn't require any equipment.

Suzanne 3FC
01-10-2006, 11:58 PM
Overstock.com offers a pilates performer for $150, like the first one you linked, MrsJim, and it also has a stand. http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=886863

Stamina also sells refurbished models on their site, for $119 (with low shipping)
http://www.staminaproducts.com/productdetail01.cfm?ProdID=55-4290&SPEC=Y
Plus they offer the fancier one you linked for $199.
http://www.staminaproducts.com/productdetail01.cfm?ProdID=55-5510A&SPEC=Y

This is the one I have http://www.staminaproducts.com/productdetail01.cfm?ProdID=55-4650

MrsJim
01-11-2006, 12:04 AM
It seems awfully expensive for what it is. They offer a 30 day refund policy, but you have to pay shipping. It's $39.95 shipping to you, and goodness knows how much to send it back, so you could still be out a big chunk if you aren't happy with it.

The company probably gets a commercial rate, which unless you are fortunate enough to have your own business or get some sort of employee discount, is likely to be considerably less than what us 'regular folk' would pay...not to mention shipping insurance etc.

Dang Suzanne - I forgot about Overstock!!! :dizzy:

DonnaS
01-11-2006, 11:28 AM
But how much space do the others take up? I'm working with space constraints until we get the remodel done, which is taking longer than planned because of unexpected things that keep popping up.

I really in my head new it was too good to be true, and it must just be out, because they aren't even selling them on ebay yet. I thought Gunthy-Renker was known for their quality though, which was making me hope.

marbleflys
01-11-2006, 11:39 AM
OK I CONFESS!!!! (sorry Mrs. Jim, MEA CULPA)

I have the Supreme Pilates, (it was a weak moment after Labor Day, before I knew what I was doing I was on the phone....). However, the GOOD news is the following:

It's NOT flimsey...it is VERY heavy, sturdy but has little wheely things.
It does fold flat
the DVDs are OK, but don't show all the moves in the infomercial
Here is the bad news.....
they don't send you enough hook clamp thingies to (think dog leash) leave all the springs attached at one time...I had to buy more at Home Depot.
If you want a stronger spring, you would have to order it separately from a Pilates site (the trap table is the proper name).

Unfortunately I cannot give a results review, because shortly after I rec'd it, I had an accident (fractures and surgery) and I was unable to play with it. Then for the holidays I moved it to another room and have not yet set it up...( I missed a lot of work and am still catching up).
Now I SHOULD be using it to help me get some flexibility back....

Amarantha2
01-11-2006, 01:28 PM
Marbleflys, was it easy to put together, other than not having all the clamps and having to buy a stronger spring? Was buying the stronger spring an option that was given to you when you ordered the machine?

Sorry for all the questions?

Another option for a Pilates machine is the Total Gym Pilates adapter ... it may be they don't make these anymore, but for a few years they were marketing the TG with this unit that adapted it for Pilates. A friend of mine has TG with this option and it's rather nice, in my opinion.

marbleflys
01-11-2006, 01:34 PM
no need to apologize...and there is practically no assembly. (just wing-nuts).

the stronger springs aren't offered with this.....I searched them on another Pilates site that sold the professional version.

BBL, thanks!

DonnaS
01-11-2006, 05:06 PM
Another option for a Pilates machine is the Total Gym Pilates adapter ... it may be they don't make these anymore, but for a few years they were marketing the TG with this unit that adapted it for Pilates. A friend of mine has TG with this option and it's rather nice, in my opinion.

The TG doesn't offer it that I could find, I keep looking on sites like ebay and such, because that one is portable also.

marbleflys - So when you did get to workout on it before your accident, did you like it? Did you need to buy the stronger springs to make the workout "tougher". I have the Windsor tapes and the ring, so I'm hoping that I can adapt those to the machine, and use some of the movements that I'm learing from a class I'm taking at our Rec Center.

Amarantha2
01-11-2006, 05:18 PM
Thanks, Donna and Marbleflys.

Marbleflys, my question is the same as Donna's ... why did you get the stronger spring? Was it to enhance the workout or because the original spring wasn't suitable at all? :)

marbleflys
01-11-2006, 05:27 PM
Hi Donna:

(sorry, I should have stated the obvious not leave everyone dangling). Yes, I do like it better than the home versions of reformers you can get for about the same price). The springs are fine with the tension they provide but if you are more advanced or like that football player who is in the ad, you might wish something *tougher*. I like the wooden bar especially for abs. with short springs and of course the legs go on the long springs. The straps are well made and there is plenty of room to leave everything attached if you have enough snap-links. The padded portion is thick and the standing arm work is easy to switch to.

Now here is the infomercial tacky part.....When I purchased mine it was a LOWER price (maybe an error on Gunthy's part). I saw the infomercial again after I got it and thought ?????Huh?, so I checked my credit card and order info....My total was about $180.00 with S/Handling....and it does come UPS "3 EASY PAYMENTS OF>>>>>" go figure..

I think they keep changing the price after they see their marketing scores.

marbleflys
01-11-2006, 05:35 PM
oops, let me clarify......

I did not get the stronger springs, I just saw them on a website that sold equipment.

However, they are available if you would want them, I think about $40. a set? and you could adapt them to this machine.

DonnaS
01-11-2006, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the info, I'm really considering it, it would work well within the space constraints that I have right now, and I don't mind spending the money, because I'm spending it to make me healthier, and when we do get our basement finished and I have the space, I will probably get one of the models that doesn't fold up. This one will more than likely go to my mom if she doesn't have one by then.

MrsJim
01-11-2006, 09:35 PM
I'd say to keep checking eBay and elsewhere for cheaper prices...they probably jacked up the price to take advantage of the big post-holiday exercise market when EVERYONE and their uncle want to buy fitness stuff.

Marbleflys - thanks for the info - I'm used to the Reformers at my gym :shrug: and it's hard to tell from such an ittybitty picture sometimes...I would definitely get stronger springs, myself, from what you said!

DonnaS
01-11-2006, 09:53 PM
Oh I'm absolutely going to. I told myself I couldn't buy anything until I lost 25 pounds, which is my first mini goal for the middle of April. I figure by then I will be getting bored with the routines that I have, and the prospect of a new routine will keep me going.

The penny pincher in me is also hoping that I find it for cheaper on ebay or something of the sorts, because I know when we get the remodel done I want to upgrade. I really like the one that Suzanne has . . .

Suzanne 3FC
01-11-2006, 11:38 PM
The one I have will come apart and fold up so you can slide it under a bed or behind a door. However, it's very heavy and awkward to lift on and off of the stand, and would be best done by two people. The stand isn't as easy to store. It comes apart, but it's too high to put behind a door or under a bed. I leave mine out and ready to use. I like it. But I've never used a professional machine, so I don't know what I'm missing :)

DonnaS
01-12-2006, 12:14 PM
So I'm going to wait a couple of months before I buy anything, unless while scouring the classifides or something I come across a Total Gym with the pilates attachment, or if by some way I come across one of these Supreme Pilates machines.

Then I was showing hubby the machine that Suzanne has, and he said that once we get the remodel done, he'll buy it for me as a way to go for the weight lost. That one I won't have to worry if it comes apart or not, in fact it won't come apart at all, it will just always be there and ready.

christineu
01-19-2006, 11:08 PM
I have one of the older, home model reformers that has 4 cords- I think I got it 7 or 8 years ago. I did have to buy a seperate stand, as it wasn't available when I orriginally purchased mine. I haven't used it in the past couple of years due to complecated health issues, but I will say I love it and look forward to getting back on it as soon as I can. I have used top quality, professional Total Gym's at a couple different physical therapy places- and I'm talking about the ones that cost $1000+, not a couple hundred buck- they never seem to feel as smooth & as supportive. I don't know if its the shoulder pads and how they give me a point to check my alignment, laying flat versus the incline, or what, but the feeling is sooooo different then on the Total Gym...to the point I would tell my physical therapist I would rather do the exercises at home. One big plus for me is how easy it is to increase/decrease resistance on my Pilates. Most of them do fold in the middle and don't take a lot of space. If you do get one, go for the the 4 cords- it is worth the little extra...plus the carriage is wider so you have more room, which is always better, especially with some exercises.

Amarantha2
01-20-2006, 11:20 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience, Christine. I just found out that a gym in the next community down from me has a major Pilates studio. It is a subsidized rec center so the price seems reasonable. I am going to find time to check that out ... I do wonder what it'd be like to train on on big, professional equipment.

christineu
01-20-2006, 11:59 AM
This is the one I have http://www.staminaproducts.com/productdetail01.cfm?ProdID=55-4650


Suzanne-

How do you like the rebounder part on yours? I see I can get the add on kit for mine and I really like the looks of it- but would like to hear how it works first hand.

Jen-is-unique
01-28-2006, 03:00 PM
I have a Pilates Performer JP and I LOVE it! It does fold up, and is not too much of a pain to put together, however, I find that I use it more if I just leave it set up all the time.

The Performer JP has a total of 32 exercises, plus whatever modifications you create on your own and really, really, works core muscles (abs,back). I bought mine on QVC and it's the best thing I've ever done!

DonnaS
03-27-2006, 11:12 AM
I found one of these on Ebay and ended up getting it for under a hundred dollars!! Including all the tapes and everything. I agree it doesn't come with enough of the clip thingy's hubby is going to stop at home depot and get me a few more tonight. But I tried it out last night and it really is sturdy. Once we get our basement done though, I want one that doesn't fold up. I haven't tried it yet, but I think I can adapt some of my Windsor Pilates movements to the machine.

Suzanne 3FC
03-27-2006, 12:54 PM
Congrats on your new purchase! I hope it works out well for you. Please keep us updated, if you don't mind. A lot of members have been curious about this machine and we'd all love to hear if it helps :)

marbleflys
03-27-2006, 05:53 PM
mine actually came with Windsor Pilates DVD....I keep it right under the bed, pull it out and set up and fold back up. The clip things are about $1.50 at home depot.

it's a very good home version, i use it at night to stretch my poor muscles, helps me relax.

DonnaS
03-29-2006, 02:59 PM
So I went home the other night, and was looking at what else came in the package, I got all the DVD's. I really like the Windsor Pilates one. It gives a pretty good workout, I can feel it after I've complete it. I really like the fact that I can get a good stretch.

It's really sturdy, my hubby is 6'5" and around 275 pounds, and he uses it also. He is a painter by trade, and he generally has been using it at night before we go to bed. He likes the stretch that he gets from it, so he doesn't feel so tight in the mornings. I can definitely see us getting some heavier springs down the line.

stillhopeful
06-04-2006, 10:48 AM
Anyone with any updated info? I saw the infomercial and now I am not sure that I can live without it.
http://www.3fatchicks.net/img/bar-chicks/chick01/lb/175/135/166/.png (http://www.3fatchicks.com/weight-tracker/)

DonnaS
06-04-2006, 10:04 PM
Both my DH and I have been using it and we like it. For the space that we have to work with right now, it works great. It is sturdy. I bought the extra tapes, and use the core tape in the morning then one of the additional tapes at night. I know I have lost weight and inches, but honestly, I don't know how much. I became really obsessed with the numbers on the scale and the tape measure, so I haven't weighed myself or took measurements in a while.

The thing that I can tell you though, is that I am a lot more flexible, and I think I stand taller, my posture has really improved. The movements are easy and very comfortable to do.

Jewelz
06-23-2006, 08:10 PM
Donna,

How did you find Supreme Pilates for under $100? I have been scouring the internet for weeks trying to find a good deal and even Ebay is over $250 with shipping. For others looking for reviews on this product, they have quite a few of them at http://www.fitnessinfomercialreview.com/. I am really hoping I can find a deal on Supreme Pilates because I've really been wanting to get it!

Suzanne 3FC
06-23-2006, 10:07 PM
Jewelz, she bought it on eBay, so that's why it was so cheap. I don't see any great deals on ebay right now, but watch it and you might get lucky too :)

Jewelz
06-26-2006, 05:27 PM
Thanks, Suzanne. Guess I will have to keep checking. Maybe the secret is out on this, so I might not be able to get it cheap ; )

infomericaladdict
07-11-2006, 03:41 PM
these are available on ebay now..

I bought one and am waiting for delivery.


if anyone has any other info???
THanks

Suzanne 3FC
07-11-2006, 04:09 PM
Thanks! Please let us know when you receive yours, and how you like it :)

DonnaS
07-21-2006, 10:18 PM
I somehow deleted my link to this thread. I found mine on ebay for a great deal, which I was lucky to do.

Both my husband and I love it, I have lost quite a few inches, but my husband has seen the biggest change. I usually do my workout in the morning and he does his in the evening. The person that I bought it from had all the tapes also, which I purchased, and I am glad I did, I like the variety.