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Thehopefulcry2
01-05-2006, 01:12 AM
Im trying really hard to stay on my diet... But I am hungry so much... .. I dont know what to do. I fear ill Just fail and forget about this whole thing like Ive done so many times before. *sighs* I dont know what to do :shrug:


honey-dipped
01-05-2006, 01:31 AM
Hang in there. You can make it! What kind of diet are you doing? You know your body really could be hungry if you are restricting calories and working out a lot. Please don't give up. I'm sure we can figure something out :).

elmay
01-05-2006, 01:36 AM
I don't know about your metabolic needs or how much you are eating, but I now realize I was starving myself with my previous weight loss attempts. The gym I go to uses something called "BodyGem" to check your resting metabolic rate. There are various calculators on the web -- using one of those, it said I needed 2100 calories/day just to maintain my body weight at rest (when I started this journey). The BodyGem came up with 2400 calories/day. I ended up setting a calorie goal for myself of 2200 calories/day. (I also exercise regularly -- I'm now up to 3x/week of strength training and 4x/week of aerobics). For the past 4 months, I haven't been starving and I have been losing weight. It gives me hope that I really can do this -- that I can get to my goal.

Like I said, I don't know your situation. But, I no longer think a person has to be hungry all the time to lose weight. I hope that this information is helpful to you -- I hope you're able to find something that works for you.


kykaree
01-05-2006, 01:42 AM
Are you in the 100lb club? If not get thee over there! There are lots of us with heaps of weight to lose. I was around your starting weight this time last year now I'm 201lbs. I felt like you too. The first six weeks were horrible, I hated to exercise, I felt tired and fed up, and then click something went off in my head, and it all became a bit easier. There are days when it's hard but other days when it's a joy.

The thing is, you can't go on a diet. There is never going to be an end to this for you (or me or anyone of us). You need to find a healthy way of eating and living that will sustain you f.o.r.e.v.e.r. coz honey there ain't no way you are going to work your butt off to lose 100lbs or more only to gain it back again.

And make sure you have set realistic time scales. I sat down (in tears mind you) once I found out just how heavy I was and worked out that I felt I could lose 50lbs the first year (I lost 61) and 50lbs the second. Then get the last little bit off in year three. If I lose it quicker hallelujah, if I don't, that's ok too.

I say this all the time, but losing a load of weight is a lot easier if you do this from a position of strength and positivity. If you allow yourself to think negative, losing weight is like pushing horsey poo up hill. If you do this because you like yourself enough to do it, and because you want to be the best you you can be, it's a lot easier.

One thing I do is every morning I stand in front of the mirror naked and really look at myself, This was really hard at 262lbs. But I felt I really needed to connect with where I was at. And as my body has changed, it's been quite exciting to really look and get to grips with the good things I have done.

Support is here, we've all been in your shoes, and it might be me that needs your help in a week or a month or whatever.

Hang in there chicken!

teahoney
01-05-2006, 10:29 AM
I'm wondering if you are eating too little. You shouldn't be hungry all of the time or else you will not stick with this. Do you eat small meals throughout the day? What do your meals consist of??

jenn_mullett
01-05-2006, 10:55 AM
I feel hungry all the time too when i am dieting but i believe its the mind over body thingy...i think i become hungry because I know I can't have anything else. Sometimes I find if I drink water it helps, or I just go for a walk and try to forget about it.

Jenn

lucky
01-05-2006, 11:10 AM
I agree that you don't have to be hungry all of the time. Granted, the couple of weeks are and adjustment even if you are eating at the higher end of your calorie spectrum. Still, those hunger pangs should fade as you get used to eating less.

I agree with the advice already given butI will add this. Consider, too, that once we've been overweight for a significant amount of time we tend to lose touch with our bodies' signals. I realize now that I used to think I was hungry if I wasn't full. If I was less than full, I thought I was starved. And, of course, there was head hunger when I was perfectly content but want to keep eating because the food tasted good and I want immediate satisfaction. It takes a lot of attention and a little time but I do think it is important to our success to reaquaint ourselves with what constitutes REAL hunger and learn to recognize when we are satisfied (but NOT full).

LovesBassets
01-05-2006, 03:33 PM
I also agree that you don't need to be hungry all the time when losing weight. I snack A LOT...and I'm talking 5 - 6 snacks a day. That way, I'm never hungry and I don't overeat at mealtime. Protein is also a great way to keep yourself satisfied longer. Try some snacks like cottage cheese, low-fat string cheese, or a protein shake. That may help.

Hang in there! You CAN do this!! :)

annk
01-05-2006, 03:50 PM
The feeling insatiably hungry bit about dieting has to be the worst! But to echo what many others have said, it helps to eat often! Eat too little and your body will just hang on to every pound its got! You will be amazed at how it does get easier; you just have to hang in there and soon you will find your cravings go down and your willpower goes up! Hang in there! You can do this and we are all here to help you!

:) :hug:

Thehopefulcry2
01-05-2006, 09:32 PM
Thanks you Guys. I dont know how much Im supposed to be taking in, I am trying to stick too 1,000 (thats what my mom told me....) But some days (more often than not) Im at like 1,200, or 1,500. I eat veggies fruit whole grain toast... those things... I dont know, maybe its just bored hunger... And I think Ill go over and Join the 100 culb thingie too... I dont know.. Im depressed by nature and Im sure thats whats making me think Ill fail...
~Heather~

cagirlygirl
01-05-2006, 10:18 PM
Aack! :fr: Good grief, girl! 1000 calories a day isn't enough to keep you sane, let alone satisfied. No wonder you're hungry all the time. :(

Try adding some more healthy food (lean protein, like Kate suggested would go a long way to helping fill you up) to your diet :eating2:. I'm not sure what you weigh, but you should lose weight just fine on about 1800 calories a day... especially if you're getting any exercise at all :bike:

And remember, slipping up happens. To everyone. It doesn't mean you're done. It just means it's time to get back on track.

Hang in there - sticking to it is the most important part! :hug:

cheers! :hat:
paula

honey-dipped
01-05-2006, 10:21 PM
1000 calories sounds way too low. I think the minimum reccomended is 1200 calories. I don't think it's boredom that's making you feel hungry. There are plenty of people who take in 2000 calories a day and lose weight and combine exercise. My doctor also told me that if one's body starts to think it's starving, then it will hold onto everything it can and that one could end up gaining weight. Snacking throughout the day will keep your metabolism moving and you won't feel so hungry. Starving yourself is not a good lifestyle change. You need to stay healthy! :)

Maybe you should go over to the board for depression also. I have been diagnosed with bipolar II and I know how tough it can be. Talking things out and even exercise can help get rid of some of the symptoms. That being said, there were different times in my life when I felt like I simply had no energy and I really couldn't function without the help of some type of medication. Maybe that is something you should look into also, if you haven't already. Take care and hang in there.

lucky
01-05-2006, 10:41 PM
Oh, 1000 is too low! At 275 pounds you should be able to lose weight on significantly more than that, especially if you are already exercising. If I were you I'd eat in the 2000-2200 calorie range for a week and see how that goes. From their you can adjust you intake downard if needed. Weight loss truly is a game of trial and error - so you need to play around a bit and see what works for you. But, my goodness, don't starve yourself if you don't have to!

srmb60
01-06-2006, 10:17 AM
A fitday.com account might help you. Even if you enter bedridden as an activity level, at your weight, you'll need more than 1000 cals just to run your bodily functions.
And I agree that you need not be hungry. Add a little protein to every snack and meal. That'll help you stay fuller feeling longer.

JayEll
01-06-2006, 01:30 PM
I agree with all these folks. At 1000 cals you could be doing yourself more harm than good.

-Try to get some movement or activity every day. A walk is a good idea. Or a swim if you have a YMCA or something like that. Just about any movement for about 20 minutes will help.

- Make a plan that allows you 1500 calories a day. Stay with that for 2 or 3 weeks at least and see if it makes a difference in your weight without making you feel hungry all the time.

Jay

HW: 198 10/1/05
CW: 185
GW: 155

Glory87
01-06-2006, 02:12 PM
1000 is definitely too low - you're just teaching your body that food is scarce and it should hold on to every resource to keep you alive. That ability to conserve is what kept your ancestors alive during famines and during wagon trains west - your body is trying to do a good thing, you have to work WITH your body.

I came up with a bunch of rules to help me lose weight. One was - never be hungry, if I was hungry I was doing something wrong. Another was - don't starve myself. I was very determined to reach my goal weight with a healthy, hot metabolism.

NowOrNever!
01-06-2006, 02:30 PM
Hmmm...(chiming in) 1000 is WAY TOO LOW. I think I missed your starting weight (275?) and at that weight, yes, somewhere around 2000 cals/day will get you a couple pounds off each week. I think 1500 is marginal at that weight unless you have the luxury of sitting around reading a book and getting massages all day to keep your mind off the hunger :-) The idea here is to find a level where you can lose a couple pounds each week and STAY on your program. Everyone else is right on--you need to mentally adjust so that you truly realize this if FOR LIFE. It's not like you're going to deny yourself all your favorite foods for x months, get to a weight that you like, and then GO BACK to how you were eating. So....when you allow yourself an appropriate amount of calories, you can also include occasional treats and realize that you don't have to completely give up the foods that you love; you just have to learn how to incorporate them into a more healthy lifestyle.

And...your mantra is that you actually do have to EAT TO LOSE....not starve yourself :-)

Welcome to 3FC!

Demeter
01-06-2006, 02:43 PM
Thehopefulcry2,
Stick with it! Make sure you're taking a multi-vitamin & maybe up your salt intake a little bit.
I'm only on day 4 but Oh-My-God, do I feel better than I did a couple of days ago!
It's like withdrawal & it does get better! It did for me.
Also, keep reviewing your food list & trying new foods - the more time goes by the easier it is to cook for myself with this more limited menu and I discover better combinations of food that actually taste good.
I'm cheering for you!

gingerjen
01-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Hi,
I know it is really hard at first, but believe me it does get easier. I had a lot of trouble at first trying to figure out how many calories I needed. I know the first week I went to bed hungry, which I know was a bad idea but we all learn from our mistakes. Now when I get hungry I think back to when I ate last and what I had. I know my body really gets hungry about every 3 hours or so, depending on what I ate. So I have a healthy snack. If it hasn't been long then I know I'm not really hungry, I am usually bored or feeling really compulsive. The thing is, thinking about why I am hungry has made a world of difference, and most of my hunger pains have disappeared so obviously I really wasn't hungry.
Just hang in there, it gets better and don't worry we all have our bad days. Good luck.
Jen

Thehopefulcry2
01-07-2006, 01:36 AM
EEP!:o I thought that that was the right amount, at least that's what my mom told me... I haven't been sticking to that though. I mean some days its 1,300, some days its 2000... I don't know... its hard... I don't really have the energy to exercise, I have Insomnia and don't sleep... so I usually am bushed. I cant afford to go to a doctor, I have no money, and I have UNTREATED Hypothyroidism. Yes. I know.... But when you don't have the money to go to the doctor what can you do? I feel defeated....:(

ZedAus
01-07-2006, 02:22 AM
I agree with everyone else that 1000 calories is WAY too low for you. You should probably be looking at 1800 to 2000 at the moment and even when you get smaller, I wouldn't go much below 1500. Your mom would have said 1000 because that is what we all used to think years ago. I remember trying to diet on 1000 calories a day and I was STARVING!!

Mind you, I don't know much about calories at the moment. I started my new lifestyle two years ago and I have managed to lose 175lbs so far without counting one single calorie. I've had a dietician friend give me ideas for what I can eat, although I started out pretty well on my own. I simply eat as much fruit and veg as I like, with a little extra carb and protein added to main meals. I have three main meals a day and three snacks. My snacks consist of a variety of fruit, yoghurt, diet jello, low-fat icecream, dried fruit and nuts, peanut butter on wholegrain crackers... ummmm... probably lots of others, but these are the main ones.

I started out my exercise routines with simply walking (if the weather was fine), or by marching and doing basic aerobics moves to music in the loungeroom. You should really try to find a way to get a little exercise in, even if you just start by walking around the block. I find that even when I am REALLY exhausted, after a little exercise I actually feel better. I now exercise twice a day as part of my daily routine. Treadmill first thing in the morning and exercise bike (only recently got that, before it was another walk on the treadmill) before dinner. When I first started on the treadmill, I was walking fairly slowly, but now I can get up quite a pace. I even did some jogging for a while, which I thought I would NEVER do, but it hurt my knee, so I have had to stop. Believe me, if anyone had told me a couple of years ago that I would have been doing this type of exercise I would have laughed in their face, but I'm doing it regularly and enjoying it (most of the time, when it isn't 100F, which it has been the last couple of days). Oh, the two pieces of exercise equipment sit in front of the TV, so I can catch up on the news or whatever while I exercise. That is an added bonus.

Please believe that you can do this. I started out at a much higher weight than you (350lbs) and I have been able to do it without ever really feeling that hungry. It IS possible.

Take care and good luck!

NowOrNever!
01-07-2006, 03:13 AM
Don't feel defeated! You will actually feel better once you start eating some more--REALLY. And you've got all kinds of folks here to "talk" with :) I don't know anything about it...is the hypothyroidism something that will improve as your weight drops? Would you Mom be willing to help you out as far as seeing a doctor about it right now?

kathyhegg
01-07-2006, 04:11 AM
I really think that it would help you to start moving, as well as eating 2000 cal a day. If you dont want to get bogged down with calorie counting, perhaps cut out anything that doesn't need preparation to be eaten from your diet. That is fruit, veges, low fat protein, dairy, and grains, such as oats and brown rice. You could pretty much eat these things till you are full.

The exercising, even if its only 5 minutes a day for the first week, should help your insomnia. Also try playing a relaxation cd before going to sleep at night, I find that can help, and cut out sugar and caffeine, and anything stimulating at night. (I've cut qwyzzle out of my evening routine in the hope of getting some sleep tonight. Its very stimulating.)

I hope I've helped.

kathy

DeterminedMe
01-07-2006, 07:59 PM
I just wanted to tell you to keep faith and hang in there. YOU CAN AND WILL DO THIS!!! That's what I keep telling myself. I just started on my diet about 5 days ago and I must say that it is a hard start. But I do eat at least 3 meals a day, now I am on a diet that has me eating 4 a day. I like it because it is a challenge because I have to follow this menu to the "T". I'm not saying that I don't get those cravings because I do, but eating throughout the day helps to keep you going and you won't feel hungry. I had to learn to eat until your satisfied, not until your full and unzipping your pants for more room (lol):nono: . So, stay encouraged, we are all here to help you through the good times and the bad times. :hug:

Thehopefulcry2
01-08-2006, 01:36 AM
I don't know anything about it...is the hypothyroidism something that will improve as your weight drops? Would you Mom be willing to help you out as far as seeing a doctor about it right now?

No, Hypothyroidism is something that makes your matbolism slow down... and No my mom wouldnt be willing to help. *sighs* Im still trying... I dont want to give up...

MorticiaAddams
01-08-2006, 08:35 AM
You need to eat every three hours. Breakfast,snack,lunch,snack,dinner,snack.

You can get in a lot of food in for the day and still be under or right at your calorie needs. Which should not be as low as you were on.
You have no energy because your body has no fuel to help it maintain and get moving. You cant sleep still because of the lack of nutrition.
Go to a library and dont pick one specific plan but look at many and read up on what they all suggest. Do what works for you.
Do what feels right for your body. If a plan is working that tells you to cut out the red meat ,drink no sodas, no pasta and get in lots of lean protein and its working for you that you dont feel deprived and you have energy then use those tools. And read more again and again until you find that you are finally getting it. That you finally had that moment that you understand completly what you should be doing.
Because no one plan ever worked for me. I took ideas from mens diets ,as well as womens diets. Its all what works best for you and your body.
Journal what you are eating , keep track of just calories and fats and maybe protein. Just watch what you are actually putting into your body so you can see where you can improve.
You can turn things around and get to that point where you see and understand what you should and should not be doing. Give yourself that and learn all you can because I know I have much much more to learn and it only helps me get closer to where I want to be in my life. Just like you can do for yours !! ;)

curlylocks
01-08-2006, 08:58 AM
i used to have trouble with insomnia... then i started walking everyday.. i could only go @ 1/2 mile at first... 10 months later i am walking 5 miles at a time... trust me if u do the walking u will have no troubles what so ever sleeping at nite!

too cold? i read on here one time a lady went to walmart with her pedometer on and walked all around the store for an hour...