Hi Suzanne: I feel exactly the same way. I was not told about the price of the lites till three days later and feel they were purposefully not telling me till I had signed up. And they they pretty well twisted my arm saying I would not get a rebate if I didn't buy $1,000. worth of the bars, and I could not buy them by the week.
It really hindered my weight loss for awhile because I was so angry, and since I quit using the bars, and only use the soup, I am finally seeing a little weight loss. Also I quit weighing three times a week, and went to once a week weigh-in and twice a week counseling and that has helped too.
Rosie
Repo girl
01-30-2006, 03:15 PM
Barb- Way to go!! And with 3 dinners, too. You are doing so well.
Mary- Sorry things are playing out this way. Everything is going to be fine. Congrats on getting DH on board, let us know how he does, maybe he can inspire a few other DH's around here!
PURPLEPIRATE99
01-30-2006, 03:21 PM
Barbara - Here's to you - you LOSER!!! AFTER ALL THE POTLUCKS!!!
I feel really discourage today. Not sure why, but maybe it is because I weighed at home last night and had gained one pound. I told my self I wouldn't be upset about it. But I am.
I did go out and drink on Friday night. I took two carb craver pills like the girl at my center suggested. But I didn't eat anything. But I did drink too much. However, I made a dozen or so trips to the bathroom.
Got right back OP the next morning. I even went to the movie that night. I only had half a child size popcorn and counted it as a starch. I am not really sure why I seem to gain everyweekend and then work all week just to lose the same pound. At this rate I will never lose any weight. I will just maintain the same weight.
Anastacia
Repo girl
01-30-2006, 03:40 PM
Anastacia- Sorry you are feeling low. Be sure to get all of your water in, and then some, because alcohol will make you retain some water. Also, squeezing a lemon into a glass of hot water and drinking it down really helps with water retention. Hope you get feeling better about things. I'm sure you will see a loss soon!
Has anyone read a book called "Body Clutter" by Marla Tilley, the Fly Lady?
m_everett
01-30-2006, 03:42 PM
Barbara- WAY TO GO on the loss over the weekend!!! :carrot: And thanks for the advice.... I'm just hoping that the scale moves in my favor tonight ;)
Anastacia- I know EXACTLY how you feel....the weekends for me are the WORST!! I'm always dreading the WI on Mondays cause I usually have one night of the weekend when I'm drinking and I have to bust my butt to make up for it. I usually do okay but I know that I could do so much better. I'm just taking it day by day, week by week,.....It'll get better...
Good luck!! :goodluck:
-Marisa ;)
Big Bootie
01-30-2006, 03:50 PM
Thanks. I hope you guys are right. I have been drinking 80+ ounces of water a day, but I still have problems with water retention. Not just from the drinking either. I had some problems before I started there. I take off my socks and shoes at night and have lines from them. I don't know if I can drink the warm lemon water, but I may have to try it. Any other suggestions for the water retention? Maybe that is what is slowing my down. I haven't lose my water weight yet.
marbear
01-30-2006, 03:52 PM
Are you getting your liite salt in? The potassium helps you expel water weight. Have you thought about taking potassium?
Mary
Big Bootie
01-30-2006, 03:58 PM
Yeah, I am getting my lite salt in. Maybe I will try the potassium. I am going to WI today, so I will see what they say as well. But I will be stopping at the drug store on my way home for some potassium.
juliemarie
01-30-2006, 04:28 PM
Anastacia-
Alcohol will cause you to retain water and definately the movie popcorn. And you probably should have counted a fat with that as well. Try the lemon water to see if that helps. Oterwise-really watch the sodium intake. You haven't been on the program very long. I would recommend not "tweaking" the program at all until it's second nature.
Gamababa3
01-30-2006, 05:18 PM
Did you all read the front page that they are going to a new server to help this site run smoother. They are looking at trying to replace it this weekend. The site will close while this is happening and it might take some of a little longer to get back on. They recommend reading a good book in the mean time. If I read it right we won't be able to access the old files.
shennie_97
01-30-2006, 05:19 PM
Rebecca, try a baked apple for the constipation, the diet can do that to you sometimes.
Heather, :bravo:
Suzanne, I felt really upset when I found out you can get the program without lites, but I got mad then thought about the $ I spent and said I can’t get it back so I might as well make sure I get what a paid for. Truthfully, you aren’t hurting them at all for not going. They have been paid, it is up to you to make sure you get the service you paid for.
For all of you thinking about the rebate, remember that you will probably pay more in bars than the rebate will be. But the rebate is for keeping the weight off for a year, not for WL. The rebate says you will eat a bar for a day and keep within 5 lbs of your goal weight.
Barb~ :bravo: to you too…I’m glad someone read that on the front page, but I am sooo upset, what will I do at work, I might have to actually do work :cry:
Anastacia~ glad I don’t have to call you bootie anymore ;)
I agree with julie about not tweeking quite yet.
Also don’t expect any magic with the CC pills, and also the movie theatre popcorn is 2 starches and a fat for ½ the small one. Be sure to get in extra water too. But if you didn’t eat one day and then went to have the popcorn the next day, your body might just want to keep those extra calories for fear that you won’t eat again. Just get back OP and when your body gets back to regular it will let the weight go
Gymgurl
01-30-2006, 05:24 PM
Hey guys.....
Mary hang in there!!
Oh what a weigh in day....stayed the same again.....UGHHHHHH...so they look at my plan and tell me I'm not eating enough variety...so now they have me eating a clean day...like tuna chicken rice cake....and a heavy day with beef and potatos....this will make my calories range more up and down...the only thing she found that she thought was wrong was natural sugar free peanut butter....I have 1 1/2 tbs in the am as protein...oh but that is limited...no so in my book and less it is full fat.....OH they make me mad...so I told her this stinks cause I can maintain my mweight myself..which I have for two yrs....so I have to go meet with someone else on wed to see if they have any other ideas......oh well
BRIGHT SIDE: I'm eating more then ever and not gaining....I'm learning some hea;thy behaviors....but damn I want to lose if I paid for this..LOL
Leah AU mom
01-30-2006, 05:33 PM
Hey guys.....
Mary hang in there!!
Oh what a weigh in day....stayed the same again.....UGHHHHHH...so they look at my plan and tell me I'm not eating enough variety...so now they have me eating a clean day...like tuna chicken rice cake....and a heavy day with beef and potatos....this will make my calories range more up and down...the only thing she found that she thought was wrong was natural sugar free peanut butter....I have 1 1/2 tbs in the am as protein...oh but that is limited...no so in my book and less it is full fat.....OH they make me mad...so I told her this stinks cause I can maintain my mweight myself..which I have for two yrs....so I have to go meet with someone else on wed to see if they have any other ideas......oh well
BRIGHT SIDE: I'm eating more then ever and not gaining....I'm learning some hea;thy behaviors....but damn I want to lose if I paid for this..LOL
I hear ya' Stick with it. I'm no nutritionist, but it seems only logical to me that if you are eating fewer calories than before LAWL you should begin to lose. Wow....how brilliant!!JK
Bobby18
01-30-2006, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the support guys. I know that I am only hurting ME by not following the program and going to the COD. That will change. We are going on a 2 week vacation this summer to N.Carolina and I want to look good in shorts and tanks. My dedication is renewed - thanks again.
Suzanne
nikkijo
01-30-2006, 07:06 PM
Gold is 2P, 2S, 3V, 3F, Fa, D
but I think you should be lower than 200 for gold (I was thinking about 185-190)
Oh my gosh!! I'll starve!!!:(
nikkijo
01-30-2006, 07:08 PM
Gold is 2P, 2S, 3V, 3F, Fa, D
but I think you should be lower than 200 for gold (I was thinking about 185-190)
Oops never mind........it's only one less vegetable.
nikkijo
01-30-2006, 07:10 PM
Nikkijo - Interesting at 200 they plan to change you. I was told Saturday I would NOT change until I hit 190. I almost wanted to argure with the woman but knew it would do no good. The difference is portion sizes of the protein. You eat 4oz of beef, 6oz of chicken and so on ( all pre cook weight). The other sizes are the same. I was given the plan to look at the other day. I guess to tease me LOL.
Sarah
well I was just peeking at my chart so maybe I read it wrong
deetsmom
01-30-2006, 07:12 PM
I hear ya' Stick with it. I'm no nutritionist, but it seems only logical to me that if you are eating fewer calories than before LAWL you should begin to lose. Wow....how brilliant!!JK
The three of us ought to form a club. I am, for the first time in my entire program, REALLY fed up with LAWL...:mad:
My home scale had me at 132.8 for the last two days, this morning at ONE THIRTY FOUR!????!!!
I am on a steady GAIN trend at teh center, which is such a joke since I am eating barely enough to sustain life by normal standards. I did a lame walking tape three days ago and have done what they told me with eating. TOM is due next week and I dont usually have PMS gain, so that excuse is out. I havent had a BM in two days either. I did have some chicken last night that was a little EXTREMELY lightly breaded and fried in a pan from a restaurant, but there is no way that made me gain over a pound...plus, this doesnt excuse the incline all LAST week of .2 at each visit (total of .6).
Before I was complaining about maintaining, now I am horrified of this gaining trend, its ridiculous. I called my center today and told them I wasnt coming in, that I would not do this to myself, that I am up on my scale and can not deal with the way I will feel when they have to write it in my chart and look at me as if I am hiding some cheats or something...
I am finally seeing the light, that 124 was never going to happen, as is 130. I just dont think my body was meant for it. Im accepting that the size I am is where I will stay and WTF, why wasnt I satisfied with being in a 2/4 and Small tops?! How ridiculous! This is gods way of saying, "see, dope...you are small enough, so to spite you, Im making you heavier just to show you!" If this gaining trend ever stops, I WILL NOT complain anymore..I just dont want any more gains!!!
nikkijo
01-30-2006, 07:28 PM
Has anyone read a book called "Body Clutter" by Marla Tilley, the Fly Lady?
No, but I love Fly Lady!!!
Gamababa3
01-30-2006, 07:30 PM
Suzanne nice to hear your wanting to work the program now. Were all here to support you.
Deets sorry to hear your so frustrated, but it is justified. I hope you do try and be happy at the weight you are and maybe if your not stressing and watching your weight daily you will start seeing a loss again.
shennie_97
01-30-2006, 08:08 PM
:hug: :hug: not much I can say, but you seem like you need a hug.
I think you have done great and maybe it is just time for you to head into the land of maintenance. I heard it is beautiful there, they have trees made out of starches and even one with fat. You will love it over there... hope to come live next door to you soon. ;)
The three of us ought to form a club. I am, for the first time in my entire program, REALLY fed up with LAWL...:mad:
My home scale had me at 132.8 for the last two days, this morning at ONE THIRTY FOUR!????!!!
I am on a steady GAIN trend at teh center, which is such a joke since I am eating barely enough to sustain life by normal standards. I did a lame walking tape three days ago and have done what they told me with eating. TOM is due next week and I dont usually have PMS gain, so that excuse is out. I havent had a BM in two days either. I did have some chicken last night that was a little EXTREMELY lightly breaded and fried in a pan from a restaurant, but there is no way that made me gain over a pound...plus, this doesnt excuse the incline all LAST week of .2 at each visit (total of .6).
Before I was complaining about maintaining, now I am horrified of this gaining trend, its ridiculous. I called my center today and told them I wasnt coming in, that I would not do this to myself, that I am up on my scale and can not deal with the way I will feel when they have to write it in my chart and look at me as if I am hiding some cheats or something...
I am finally seeing the light, that 124 was never going to happen, as is 130. I just dont think my body was meant for it. Im accepting that the size I am is where I will stay and WTF, why wasnt I satisfied with being in a 2/4 and Small tops?! How ridiculous! This is gods way of saying, "see, dope...you are small enough, so to spite you, Im making you heavier just to show you!" If this gaining trend ever stops, I WILL NOT complain anymore..I just dont want any more gains!!!
deetsmom
01-30-2006, 08:24 PM
Ill gladly move in...just as long as I dont go up any higher, LOL!!! I cant WAIT to see what maintennance is like, but there are still 6 long weeks of stabilization first! And Super Bowl Sunday the day before my stabilization starts...what timing!!!
textjewel
01-30-2006, 09:10 PM
Shennie - loved the visual about the land of maintainence. .
Deets - don't throw in the towel completely! haven't you fluctuated any during this journey? (I am NOT saying that you should aim lower, but just don't make yourself crazy!) There are times the scale is up (and mine doesn't show fractions, so when it's up,it's up) - and for no reason at all - I've been POP for days. .
Nikki - how tall are you? I moved to gold when I hit about 188, and I'm 5'4". Also, the portion sizes for protein are about 2 oz less on gold than purple. So it *is* less food.
Gymgirl -are your clothes fitting any different with all the exercise you do - even if the scale isn't showing any loss yet?
Julie
thnknthn
01-30-2006, 09:28 PM
Hello Ladies!
I feel like I need to pass on my DH's words of wisdom to you all, as it helped me out. When I was getting frustrated because I felt that I was not losing fast enough and he saw me on the verge of tears, "He said, you were very happy every day and greeted me with a smile until you started this diet, and if you think getting skinny is going to make you any happier you are sadly mistaken. You have to be happy with where ever you are at no matter what that scale says, and if this is the new you I will cancel the diet myself. Because I Love You!"
I thought you all might need to hear what he said because it sure made me think twice about everything. I thought mabey some one might need to hear this right now so I am putting it out there.
Hang in there girls lets be happy today no matter what the scale or COD says.
See you real soon!
Bernadette:cb:
Talk at you all soon
deetsmom
01-30-2006, 09:51 PM
OMG Bernadette, gotta love the DH:) What a keeper. So sweet! For me, I wasnt happy before (self image wise, otherwise, yes- but I am now:) I dont let this consume my entire day, theres no room in my busy life for that, y'know?
Karebear50
01-30-2006, 09:52 PM
Gymgurl, how long have you been on a plateau? I was so frustrated because I plateaued for literally like 2 weeks. But, now, I have dropped about 4 lbs. since last Thursday. So, hang in there. But I know your frustration.
Do you ever feel like we have to weigh in too often? I understand the going in 3 times a week, it keeps you more on track. But every other diet I have done tells you to weigh yourself once a week. With LAWL, I have to keep reminding myself that I am not always going to have a huge drop, especially when it might have just been 2 days between WI.
deetsmom
01-30-2006, 09:53 PM
theres definitely a love/hate with WI for all of us, I think. Congrats on the loss!
slimmerKim
01-30-2006, 09:56 PM
I'm also fed up with LAWL. I've lost 40 lbs and am only 5 lbs from goal (which is a high weight for my height of 5'1"). But now I can't lose anymore and I just dread going in.
The exercise is killing me, I think - it's so good for me, yet I'm sure I'm gaining muscle (I started Oct 1st, so that's 4 whole months of regular cardio when before I was doing NONE). They gave me more food, put me on Blue, but something is still not working.
It's so frustrating. And I know that many of you are probably thinking that it's just not a big deal - but to be working hard and stuck is so disheartening.
I'm making myself go weigh in tomorrow no matter what - I've only been going once a week b/c i can hardly take it. I have only 3 weeks of weight loss left and then I'm moving on to maintenance no matter what. It's so strange b/c I know if i was on maintenance, they'd be thrilled with how I'm doing. GRRRRR
marbear
01-30-2006, 10:01 PM
Deets, sometimes ya gotta realize you're going into a valley to realize you were on a hill, ya know? I'm glad this TEMPORARY GAINING TREND has made you realize you are one skinny chick. You've had 3 kids, so that is like a double zero to a non-mom ;) You'll lose your weight again. I think you're gaining because the green plan is pretty much starvation station. I bet if you just went stabilization now you'd start losing again.
Gymgurl, wish I had the enthusiasm for exercise that you and Star have.
I'm not losing, but I'm preoccupied with this medical junk. When I found out I may have surgery tomorrow, I took the LAWL gloves off. I graze the entire day before surgery because I am so scared of that empty, empty hunger feeling. I have grazed so much I may moo here in a minute.
Mary
deetsmom
01-30-2006, 10:10 PM
Deets, sometimes ya gotta realize you're going into a valley to realize you were on a hill, ya know? I'm glad this TEMPORARY GAINING TREND has made you realize you are one skinny chick. You've had 3 kids, so that is like a double zero to a non-mom ;) You'll lose your weight again. I think you're gaining because the green plan is pretty much starvation station. I bet if you just went stabilization now you'd start losing again.
Gymgurl, wish I had the enthusiasm for exercise that you and Star have.
I'm not losing, but I'm preoccupied with this medical junk. When I found out I may have surgery tomorrow, I took the LAWL gloves off. I graze the entire day before surgery because I am so scared of that empty, empty hunger feeling. I have grazed so much I may moo here in a minute.
Mary
Im on Gold, but no matter...anyway,you are such a wonderful spirit, truly, there is more important things in life than a number, Ill be thinking of you tomorrow. I feel like such a baby, Im going for a routine OBGYN visit and was worried cos you never know what they might find, and here you are facing such a scary day...Im ashamed of myself :o
CandlePrincess
01-30-2006, 10:52 PM
just wanted to post a good day! WI today I was down exactly 1 pound. I'll take it. I do get frustrated with the food choices and it's hard for me because typically I am not a planner and things have to be so planned out or I don't get all my foods in. I have a notebook that I now refer to as "the book of Food." My husband thinks i'm nuts but if he didn't know this after 12 years of marriage then he's the nutty one!
Still working toward my Spring Break goal!!!!!
marbear
01-31-2006, 12:14 AM
I'm in a bidding frenzy on ebay for Luna bars (outbid me and I'll cut 'ya...just kidding). Anyway, I think I'm high bidder on 3 lots, and all of them have between 40 and 80 bars. Yikes! I'll probably get outbid on all of them, but if I do I have a watch on an auction of nothing but lemon zest....65 lemon zest...you'd think I'd be tired of them since my last ebay venture yielded almost 100 lemon zest, but I love 'em...I'm like Shennie...just rollin' with the lemon bars. Those South Beach bars just taste old...maybe they don't sell well or something...it's like eating stale rice krispy treats. I think the Luna will help me get back on plan like before when I was hard core.
Deets, you're not a baby...going to the doctor makes you think about what CAN go wrong, no matter how healthy you are, and that is why we all HATE GOING TO THE DOCTOR. I haven't cramped or taken meds since this morning, and not to be too graphic but I passed tissue this afternoon...maybe that was the very last bit. They say you will stop cramping when the last tissue releases from your body, so I am thinking good things about this lack of cramps.
I'm SO pumped about having this behind me so I can be a HARD CORE, CIRCLE COUNTIN', FOOD WEIGHIN', SODIUM CHECKIN', PROTEIN BAR EATIN', WATER GUZZLIN', SCALE HOPPIN' LAWL CHICK once again.
Mary
sarah135
01-31-2006, 07:16 AM
I am going to WI this am. I am so frutrated with this program I could scream. I have done as well with the exercise and NO results. I first month was great but this month has been down right terrible. I know I have been doing good on my eating. It's just not working. I am thinking about asking for a refund if I do not see a change today. I wonder haow that works? Maybe I won't I have to wait and see.
Sarah
Gymgurl
01-31-2006, 08:36 AM
Mary that is so good to hear! I have been praying for ya girl!
Sarah let us know how you did...I have been feeling that same way
Slimmerkim.....what happend at weight in chick....let us know....
I'm still here writing my food down...and feeling frustrated but trying to focus on the positive!
PURPLEPIRATE99
01-31-2006, 09:40 AM
Good Morning Ladies--
Deets - I'm so sorry you are frustrated, but I agree with Mary - you will probably start losing again once on maintenance and not stressing too much about it. I wonder if that extra lb would be pre TOM weight - didn't you say it was on it's way?? You look wonderful - I'm glad you are finally realizing how proud you should be of yourself!!
Mary - I sure do hope that those "NO CRAMPS" are exactly what you thought. I will pray that there is no surgery needed for you. I had to laugh at your last comment about the hard core LAWL girl - that was cute!! At least you are keeping a sense of humor.
Sarah - Good Luck at weigh in.....Let us know how you do
Gymgurl - I know it has to be frustrating, but maybe doing the up and down calorie days will help. That has been a good way of breaking plateaus for many people on different plans.....Good luck!! You luck great now!!
CandlePrincess - Congrats on the loss - a loss is a loss!!!
Slimmerkim - Results? waiting to hear from you too
Bernadette - Thanks for sharing the DH's words of wisdom - they are very true. I truly believe that was what got me back on track - was finally realizing to be happy with myself no matter what......it helps so much to keep focused......
Shennie - The visual for maintenance is enough to keep me motivated - it sounded so relaxing and nice.....;)
I tried to go back to the gym last night - I made it, but I was still very weak - My body is not quite back up to par. Don't know if I will attempt cardio - b/c of the sweating and heavy breathing - not sure if that would be good for healing blisters in my throat - hopefully by Thursday - I can get back to a normal schedule!!
Welcome and Good Morning to everyone else..Hope everyone has a great OP day!!!!
m_everett
01-31-2006, 09:57 AM
Hello ladies..... Well I had WI last night and just as I suspected- I was up .8 Blah!!!! And my counselor even mentioned the 'S' word to me---:o Supplement. She wasn't being pushy about it but saw that I'm losing a little slowly and suggested the Excel stuff cause she's 'obsessed with it'. Now I know that I'm not being POP and that's why I'm not losing as much as I couldbe. So I told her that I would think about it but asked how much it cost and nearly passed out when she told me it was 89 BUCKS for a month supply......So now I'm definitelynot getting it.
So, now I just have to prove it to my COD and myself that I don't need no stinking supplements and be POP....AHHHHH- this is going to be tough.....
Have a great OP day!!!
-Marisa ;)
PURPLEPIRATE99
01-31-2006, 09:58 AM
Marisa - You can do it - just remember - do it for yourself!!
Tee625
01-31-2006, 10:10 AM
Ok I don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I did TO this weekend I barely lost anything. I went to weigh in and I was at 162.8. Which is only 1lb from last week. I also did a TO the weekend before that to hoping that would help but nothing is working... any suggestions anyone.
Loves Saddlebreds
01-31-2006, 10:11 AM
Hi All - I'm back after 10 days in Tokyo, it was fun but a total diet disaster!! I couldn't really stick, too much change in diet, too many opportunities to cheat when you are eating out all meals...Food choices were just so different..blah, blah, blah... I finally got the guts to get on the scale this am and I am up 6 pounds - ouch!!
I'm cranky, suffering from major jet lag and couldn't summons it up to do take-off. I'm just working to get back on track, measure my food and stick closely to my plan for the rest of the week. Hopefully, I'll undo some of the damage.
On the bright side - I didn't gain more than I lost so I am still at - 3 lbs, yippee!! I might even tackle the gym today to just walk or swim for an 1/2 or so....
I just wanted to stop in and say hi, I'm looking forward to February and a good start.
shennie_97
01-31-2006, 10:20 AM
Bernadette~ your DH is a sweetie
Karebear~ I think we have to change our ideas about weighing with LAWL, I weigh daily to make sure I am on track, but I know not to expect a loss each day. On the other hand I think I would not be as focused if I only weighed once a week because I would think that I had a few days “off” because I can still show a loss with the “off” days. I know a lot of WW’s people who have a cheat right after meeting because they have until the next week, for me I know one day leads to 20, so I have to keep myself on track and this is the way I do it.
Mary~ :lol: I am now heading towards month 6 of 2 lemon bars a day. Truthfully, they don’t make my mouth water like they use to, but they are still working for me.
Heather~ you are bottle of sunshine and are so great with the personals
Tee~ two TO’s in two weeks could be part of your problem. You have to give your body sometime to actually get some calories in to “eat off of” during TO. You will not loose not eating enough because your body will hold on to calories and you will be doing more maintaining then loosing. I would suggest getting Op and having a variety in your plan. I would also have a few light days since your body will probably be so happy with the extra food it is about to get, it will hold on to it for dear life. I was really surprised when I ate a heavy meal one day and ended up with a lb loss overnight and didn’t want to believe that eating can make you loose, but it is true.
:welcome: back saddlebreds, Toykyo sounds like it was wonderful
shennie_97
01-31-2006, 10:32 AM
Ugh!! So what am I doing wrong?? I pasted the text in from tickerfactory.com, but the text is ALL that shows up! HELP!! :dizzy:
use the first code they have when you get to the last page. not just the URL.
I think it is BBcode, but it is int he first box. Highlight the entire code (about 4-5 lines) and paste the whole thing. Then you can click preview to see if it works before you post and keep tryign until it previews right, but it shoudl be the first code.
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 11:24 AM
Morning everybody!! Yesterday I was POP all day, not a little bite of this, or a snitch of that, nothing but OP food. It is really the first time in a long time that I have been able to do so. I know from cheating all weekend that my WI will probably not be that great this week, but of course, I have it coming. My dad shot an elk this year, and shared his meat with us. I had elk steak fajitas for lunch, and elk stroganoff for dinner. I don't like deer or antelope at all, but this elk is really good, and very lean. If you ever have a chance to taste moose, go for it. It is the best of all wild game. Today and tomorrow will be no red meat, of course! I think that I will make hummus again today.
Deets- I am so glad that you are seeing the big, or should I say small, picture. You have done great!
Mary- Thinking of you. Hope you don't moo any minute now. That could be very tramatic for Eli!!!
Heather- Big thumbs up for even trying to go to the gym. I can't seem to get my butt moving for nothing. Maybe I should have DH tie me to the back of the 4 wheeler and run me up and down the street!
To those of you who are frustrated: I am truly sorry that you feel this way. My mom had a similar experience, and did get her money back. She did LAWL for about 6 weeks, and never lost a lb. She has had gastric bypass, though, and could not possibly consume the amount of food and water required, even on green.
Bernadette- Thanks for the words of wisdom. Sometimes we all need to hear that!
Shout out to Shennie, Star, Beanie, Carmen, Sy, Fiona, Britt, Andi and all of you other lurkers!!!
deetsmom
01-31-2006, 12:06 PM
I just got in from my OBGYN annual appt..they had my weight at 132 today so go figure. My dr said I have a very "athletic" heart beat, LOL! He said I should run a marathon:) Gotta run back out now for pre-school, catch you all later!
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 12:07 PM
BTW, I had a funny story to share. On Sunday I bought a bag of Hershey's SF candy bars to try to beat an awful craving. I ate a few on the way home, then tossed the bag of stuff from Walmart on a chair in the living room to make lunch. Later, I could not find them. I discovered that my 3 year old had stolen the bag and eaten them all in her bedroom. Well, the candy got revenge on her for me, in the form of bad diareah from the artificial sweeteners. That will teach her to eat my candy!!
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 12:09 PM
Deets- It must have felt so good to go in at that weight. I keep thinking that my gyno will die when he sees me again, should be down close to 100 lbs by the time he sees me, compared to last time I was in, uh, 3 years ago. Has it been that long? Oh, boy, I guess it is time for a checkup.
Big Bootie
01-31-2006, 12:56 PM
Well, all my worrying was for nothing. I lost 1.6 lbs over the weekend. I was so excited and felt 10 times better.
The lady at the center suggested the hot lemon water or asparagus for the water retention. I don't want to eat asparagus, and does the water have to be hot? What's the difference if it is hot or cold?
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 01:08 PM
Your body absorbs it better and gets to work faster if it is hot. Glad you showed a loss!
PURPLEPIRATE99
01-31-2006, 01:29 PM
Anastacia - Congrats on your loss
Katie - not exactly how good that tie up thing would work - but I bet your husband might enjoy it if you were BN!!! heheheheheh
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 01:32 PM
Yeah, I had to get rid of the BN goal, it just didn't work out....
m_everett
01-31-2006, 01:56 PM
Anastacia- Way to go on the weekend loss!!!!:cb: :dancer: :woo: :high: :cheer: :goodscale :carrot: :bravo: :cp:
Whew- sorry I got a little crazy there :dizzy: Gotta love those smilies :D
Purplepirate- thanks for the advice. No more gloating- it's POP for me :carrot:
Big Bootie
01-31-2006, 02:07 PM
Thanks for all the congratulations. I feel great. I guess I will try to drink it hot, although it sounds disgusting. If I am unable to do it I will try it cold, it can't hurt I guess.
shennie_97
01-31-2006, 02:08 PM
Well, all my worrying was for nothing. I lost 1.6 lbs over the weekend. I was so excited and felt 10 times better.
The lady at the center suggested the hot lemon water or asparagus for the water retention. I don't want to eat asparagus, and does the water have to be hot? What's the difference if it is hot or cold?
and not Hot, hot, warm is fine enough, like tea temperature.
PURPLEPIRATE99
01-31-2006, 02:14 PM
Marisa - I've so been there before. I used to do WW faithfully, but I feel like I learned the system good enough that I could cheat it and still win - well, guess what ? it didn't happen and cheating was cheating - whether it was myself , my journal or just the fact that I knew I was sabataging myself.You can do this - I finally proved it to myself - just had to try something different....You go girl!!!
Katie - Well at least the DH is happy now - maybe it will be just the "feel good" exercise you've been looking for....;) ;)
slimmerKim
01-31-2006, 02:20 PM
I did it - I MADE myself go weigh in and I was up 1 lb - but that's OK! First, it wasn't more than a lb :) Second, I went overboard on Sunday - my son's birthday! and Third, my counselor was GOOD.
So after my last rant about LAWL, I'm going to say something good. I'm still frustrated at the difficulty of the last part of my journey, but this gal really was good.
First, she's not a regular and I haven't met w/her before. Then she's pretty overweight and I tend to get irritated by that at a weight loss place, but SHAME ON ME b/c I found out she has lost 67 LBS! OMG, good for her! My three kids go with me to weigh in and they all get on the scale. My 4 1/2 year old is 37 lbs and my 6 y/o is 41 lbs, so I tell her that if she held both of them, that's about how much she's lost! Can you imagine carrying that around all day (this was after I remarked that I have "lost" one of my children!). WOW
So she never says anything about a "gain" just asks me how I'm doing. I told her that maybe this is where I'm meant to be and if I have to go to stabilization at this weight, I will be fine with it. And she said, that's great and you look awesome!
She did set some goals for me and I am going to try really hard to stick to the plan this week, which means I'll have to take the harder road to get up there 3 times, but SHE inspired me.
Anyway - i was up today but I have already filled out my diary for today and plan to stick to it!
Way to go to all the other losers!
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 02:23 PM
Slimmerkim- I love it when you have inspiring visits like that!
Tee625
01-31-2006, 02:57 PM
Slimmerkim, it's nice to hear stories about good counselors who really try to be helpful.
Leah AU mom
01-31-2006, 03:01 PM
I am going to WI this am. I am so frutrated with this program I could scream. I have done as well with the exercise and NO results. I first month was great but this month has been down right terrible. I know I have been doing good on my eating. It's just not working. I am thinking about asking for a refund if I do not see a change today. I wonder haow that works? Maybe I won't I have to wait and see.
Sarah
Hey Sarah,
They say you average 2 lbs. a week, so if you lose a lot of weight fast, your body will slow down. . How much did you lose in the first month?
PURPLEPIRATE99
01-31-2006, 03:06 PM
Slimmerkim - that's great that you left extra motivated!
green0923
01-31-2006, 03:11 PM
Hello, ladies! Well, I'm so excited to have found a forum for LAWL! I joined a little over a week ago, and have done really well so far!
Day 1, I was STARVING, but that was because I didn't space the food out. I was so worried I would run out of calories by the end of the day ... but then at the end of the day, I realized I had not used up all of my portions.
Anyway, I have had a much easier time of it since then!
I am on the red plan, no lites. I have LOTS to lose, but am really inspired!
My biggest challenge right now is that I travel for work occasionally (in fact, was out last week, will be out next week, and then again two weeks later). This creates a big issue when everything is catered. But I'm hanging in there!
My other challenge ... how much water is too much? I have really gotten to where I crave the water, and find myself drinking 10+ cups a day many days. The counselor I saw yesterday told me they didn't want me drinking so much, because it would cause me to retain water. I don't get how drinking more water is important to keep you from retaining water, but drinking too much causes you to retain? Any advice?
I hope everyone is having a good day.
Mary...hoping you start feeling better very soon.
Deets...Congrats on the 132 dr. weigh in. I'm sure you are feeling great. I know what you mean about being down about body image etc. I agree that self worth is not about how much you weigh or how good you look, but when I was at goal before, I felt happier about the choices I made and that I was taking care of myself and trying to live a healthier life. With children, I'm also conscious of how much they are influenced by the things I do. For example, I really don't love water, but I've been drinking bottles and bottles on LAWL.. My kids usually complain about drinking water, but when they see me drinking it, they'll ask to have some.
marbear
01-31-2006, 03:21 PM
Deets, if you're 132 on doctor scales, that makes you 120 in real life...ha! Just feels like that when I go to the doctor I guess.
Leah, my 2 y/o son loves to drink water...he used to only want to have juice or milk, but now that he is older he wants to be just like mom. A couple of the moms in playgroup tease about how he just wants to be me when he grows up...very cute, even though I know he will think I am a lame hick one day very soon. I gotta get that good example in before my lame hick days begin ;)
Mary
Mary
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 03:21 PM
My DH got in big trouble with me this morning. After he got dressed, he comes into the kitchen complaining that his slacks were hung up yesterday a little damp. He told me that I need to get the laundry more dry before I take it out of the dryer. Now, it is true that I have PMS quite severely right now, (one of my daycare moms is gonna be lucky if she does not get the wrath when she shows up for her kids today, but that is a whole different rant!) but that comment from him really irritated me. I asked him who he supposes goes to all of the work to wash, dry, and hang his clothes. I pointed out that it is certainly not him, yet he absolutely never thanks me for all of the effort I put out on his behalf, but if there is ONE day, that ONE pair of pants feels DAMP, he thinks he has the right to jump in and tell me what I should be doing differently. So, of course, he says, "Well thank you. I do appreciate all that you do." Guess what, if I have to shame you into saying it, it does not count!
Leah AU mom
01-31-2006, 03:22 PM
:welcome2:
Hi Erin,
I must admit drinking too much water is not a problem I have ever had, 10 cups doesn't sound like that much to me though. We are suppose to have 8 and with carb cravers they say more..
About eating out, or catered meals, try to have water or a lite before your meal, so you won't be starving and then look at what is offered and think about what they have that will fit in your plan. This plan can really work anywhere. I just have to take time to think about the right thing to order and change my habits from some of the things I might have ordered before LAWL (I have done this plan before and reached goal..I'm now working on losing some lbs. that I gained by falling into old habits)
We can do this:cheer:
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 03:24 PM
Erin- My center said that I was drinking too much water too. They said that I could have 100 oz of water, plus my usual coffee in the morning and tea in the afternoon.
Gamababa3
01-31-2006, 03:24 PM
My husband has done is own wash since we have been married which is going on 16 years. I tried doing is wash years ago and he comes home to see his what used to be white shirts now pink:) My kids as they were old enough all did their own wash also. Have enough to do on my own.
Congrats on the weight loss you all are doing good.
I have a lot to do around the house today. Having company over on Sat for what I told them will be a healthy potluck:)
Leah AU mom
01-31-2006, 03:29 PM
Deets, if you're 132 on doctor scales, that makes you 120 in real life...ha! Just feels like that when I go to the doctor I guess.
Leah, my 2 y/o son loves to drink water...he used to only want to have juice or milk, but now that he is older he wants to be just like mom. A couple of the moms in playgroup tease about how he just wants to be me when he grows up...very cute, even though I know he will think I am a lame hick one day very soon. I gotta get that good example in before my lame hick days begin ;)
Mary
Mary
Isn't it funny to see your children imitate you? especially when it's a boy!!!!My DS is 2.5. It cracks me up when he wants to put on makeup when he sees me putting it on.. It kills my DH, but it's just because he's around me all the time. I have two daughters too, and he got some of their nail polish and painted his fingers and toes. I'm painting a bad picture of my son, he is really very boyish I promise. In fact he is soooooooooo different from my DDs. He came out of the womb growling and making boy noises. Now he'll make a gun or fire hose out of stick or anything that he can aim at you. My girls never did that.
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 03:33 PM
I won't allow toy guns in my house, since my DH and DF hunt, and I don't want my kids to think that guns are toys. I am amazed at what my son and daycare kids can turn into guns. Legos, toy hair dryers, etc. It used to make me so mad! Now I am used to it.
lawl all the weigh
01-31-2006, 03:49 PM
I can't believe I did this but I am getting starch stingy, today for the first time in being on this diet for 8 months I ate a six inch subway sandwich and pulled the top bread off. Do you guys do that all the time?
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 03:53 PM
All the time, sandwiches, hamburgers, you know...
PURPLEPIRATE99
01-31-2006, 04:07 PM
Haven't done the sandwich thing out yet - just the wraps, but I'm definitely planning on it - yes, I would be way starch stingy.....
shennie_97
01-31-2006, 04:18 PM
I can't believe I did this but I am getting starch stingy, today for the first time in being on this diet for 8 months I ate a six inch subway sandwich and pulled the top bread off. Do you guys do that all the time?
I pull the bottom bread off all the time. In fact i often get the oat wheat bread becaus ei don't like the oat part and that way I can't eat the other bread. When you only have 2 starches, you have to use them wisely.
green0923
01-31-2006, 04:24 PM
Leah and Repo, thanks for the info! Also, I spoke with the center director about all of my travel, and she is going to meet with me this week before I head out of town to help me plan how to make this work.
Her initial advice was the following (when traveling):
1. Load up on fruit for breakfast (stay away from the pastries!). Include a bagel/lite cream cheese as appropriate.
2. Load up on veggies for lunch.
3. Skip the fat, since what we eat will most likely be cooked with lots of butters and oils.
4. Eat a sensible dinner. Cut the portion in half if necessary.
5. Pack low-sodium V-8's and drink as necessary.
6. Order a glass of wine with dinner if you aren't getting your fruits in.
7. It's important to get all of your portions in. But, if you are not getting all of your portions in, the starches are the best ones to skip.
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sarah135
01-31-2006, 04:44 PM
Okay everyone I have to praise LAWL. As everyone knows I WAS completely
ready to quit this am. I decided to go to WW because of the varity. Well I went in and was down 0.6 lbs. from Sat - not bad. But still I was not happy. I have been POP for a long time. I called and spoke with the center manager. She told me I had to talk to the area manager (AM), of course at this point I was feeling the run around. When I got home from my arrands I called the center back and the AM answered. She spoke with me for about 25 minutes about the plan, whats happening in my life and changes in my work schedule that I have had recently. I was so impressed. She put me back on BLUE plan -which is the plan that I lost the weight on. At the end of the call, she gave me her cell phone # and told me to call anytime with ??s. And next week we would get together and look at everything.
She also said that for some reason at the end of the second month it is VERY common people slow down with their weight loss and then pick back up. She really does not know why. She asked me to give them one more month. So I agreed.
Anyways, KUDOS to LAWL from me. I will keep everyone posted.
Sarah
Chklithunder
01-31-2006, 04:49 PM
Sarah - YAY for you and I'm SO glad you got someone who was attentive to your concerns. Bravo that you decided to stick with it awhile longer!
Repo girl
01-31-2006, 04:59 PM
I am so glad to hear that Sarah! You know, for the few crappy counselors out there, we really do have a lot of great ones.
brittyboo07
01-31-2006, 05:32 PM
Well chickies i have run into a problem. I missed my Jan 31st goal i was aobut 1.25 lbs from my 10 lb goal for the month. But i start my exercise program tomorrow and i was really wanting to be down that 10 lbs so that I would be really ready for my two week body adjustment to the exercise. I was good over the weekend and was OP but not POP i dont think i got all my water in. Its a little bit disheartening to have a little stall before i hit the gym tomorrow. Oh well I will just have to work it extra hard and be very POP the next two weeks while my body adjust.
Glad to see that so many of you are doing so well. Keep up the good work and ill try to post tomorrow night after my workout to let you know how the biggest loser workout was.
marbear
01-31-2006, 05:39 PM
Britt, one pound from goal is GREAT. 10 lbs in a month is a big goal. Hopefully I'll do as well as you this month!
Mary
nikkijo
01-31-2006, 06:59 PM
Nikki - how tall are you? I moved to gold when I hit about 188, and I'm 5'4". Also, the portion sizes for protein are about 2 oz less on gold than purple. So it *is* less food.
Julie
I'm 5'10" and my goal weight is 152
2bfit06
01-31-2006, 07:02 PM
Hello everyone,
I don't want to sound negative in anyway, but I just need to get this off of my chest and move on. I had been consistently losing and gaining the same 7lbs for the last 10 weeks. I was totally ticked off and told them that everything they were suggesting wasn't an issue for me. They told me they were going to email the dietician to get me some help and that took another two weeks. Of course by then, I was ready to quit, but I still had 7 weeks left and of course you know they don't want to refund you any money. I had and have been following the plan to a T, but no real results. I tried my hardest not to get frustrated, but my center is not really any help. Well finally today, I got a call from the manager who is leaving on Saturday and she said that they were switching me to the blue plan. To try it for 10 days and see if things start working for me again. She's leaving and I don't care for the other counselor. Our center seems to have high turnover and they never really get anyone in there that has a clue.
It wasn't like this 4 years ago when I went the first time. After my 7 weeks are up, I am not renewing. I am going to try and do it on my own. This makes me sad.
Thanks for letting me vent.
I hope that everyone else is having great success.
marbear
01-31-2006, 07:44 PM
2bfit, sorry this time around isn't working. I guess it is all about the counselors, you know? Is there another one close by that you can transfer to? This problem should have been resolved weeks ago.
I'm looking at the top sirloin and green peppers I have in my crock pot and not feeling hungry. It dawns on my- Do a day of TO to get the ball rolling. I am doing ONE day worth of TO just to get the sodium out and then hopefully be back on track now that my cases of lunas are arriving.
Later,
Mary
hkychik
01-31-2006, 08:03 PM
Hi all! I was browsing today and found this site! I've spent the last hour reading posts - what a great, supportive group this is.
I joined on Friday, did the take off on Sunday and Monday, - started my plan today. I am happy to read about substitutes, as I really didn't want to shell out more money for the lites.
I'll be checking in often!
sarah135
01-31-2006, 08:13 PM
Hello everyone,
I don't want to sound negative in anyway, but I just need to get this off of my chest and move on. I had been consistently losing and gaining the same 7lbs for the last 10 weeks. I was totally ticked off and told them that everything they were suggesting wasn't an issue for me. They told me they were going to email the dietician to get me some help and that took another two weeks. Of course by then, I was ready to quit, but I still had 7 weeks left and of course you know they don't want to refund you any money. I had and have been following the plan to a T, but no real results. I tried my hardest not to get frustrated, but my center is not really any help. Well finally today, I got a call from the manager who is leaving on Saturday and she said that they were switching me to the blue plan. To try it for 10 days and see if things start working for me again. She's leaving and I don't care for the other counselor. Our center seems to have high turnover and they never really get anyone in there that has a clue.
It wasn't like this 4 years ago when I went the first time. After my 7 weeks are up, I am not renewing. I am going to try and do it on my own. This makes me sad.
Thanks for letting me vent.
I hope that everyone else is having great success.
2befit06 - Please read my story from earlier today and found someone that will help. Even if you have to call the 800#.
Sarah
marbear
01-31-2006, 09:04 PM
Lori, don't rat us out on the subs:lol: ...they're come up with some lame excuse, but I am living proof that you can sub lunas for lites and knudsen's for TO and still get good results.
Mary
dawn78
01-31-2006, 09:27 PM
I haven't posted for awhile. I was out of town for a few days and when I returned home I was sick with the flu. I haven't been able to be POP, I just didn't have an appetite for the last 3 days. I see I have a lot of catching up to do so I better get reading. Talk to you all on the February thread!
marbear
01-31-2006, 09:48 PM
Yeah! I lost that 2nd auction..now I just hope I lose the third so I can bid on one of my favorites..the LEMON.
mary
Leah AU mom
01-31-2006, 09:51 PM
My DH got in big trouble with me this morning. After he got dressed, he comes into the kitchen complaining that his slacks were hung up yesterday a little damp. He told me that I need to get the laundry more dry before I take it out of the dryer. Now, it is true that I have PMS quite severely right now, (one of my daycare moms is gonna be lucky if she does not get the wrath when she shows up for her kids today, but that is a whole different rant!) but that comment from him really irritated me. I asked him who he supposes goes to all of the work to wash, dry, and hang his clothes. I pointed out that it is certainly not him, yet he absolutely never thanks me for all of the effort I put out on his behalf, but if there is ONE day, that ONE pair of pants feels DAMP, he thinks he has the right to jump in and tell me what I should be doing differently. So, of course, he says, "Well thank you. I do appreciate all that you do." Guess what, if I have to shame you into saying it, it does not count!
You go girl!!!!!!!!!
hkychik
02-01-2006, 12:14 AM
Thanks Mary - no ratting here! Now if I could just figure out how to sneak in full strenth Mtn Dew!
thnknthn
02-01-2006, 01:22 AM
:welcome3:Lori
Glad you found us! The ladies on here have always been good to me, jump right in any time. Be seeing you around!
Bernadette
PURPLEPIRATE99
02-01-2006, 08:16 AM
Good Morning Chickies --
Sarah - That is wonderful news that you are getting the support you need and are willing to keep trying - that is what it takes - keep trying until you get WHAT YOU WANT!!! I'm very happy for you - hopefully the plan switch will get you going again......
Lori - :welcome: and yes these chickies are absolutely wonderful!!! So what hockey team do you like? I'm a Hurricane Fan.....I was supposed to go to the game on Saturday b/c they retired Ron Francis's jersey - but I was soooo sick.....
2befit06 - I sure hope you can find a way to make it work - don't give up. Hopefully you can find another center close enough to at least get some support that you need. Maybe the 800 number can help you too - I really hope that you don't give up - These ladies gave help you and give you the support that you need as well.
Mary - Hope your bids go as you want - you are so funny. You're going to have to buy an extra freezer just to keep up with all your lunas......I bought three boxes from the drugstore.com while they were on sale and I feel like I have a ton of them - plus I had bought some of the pria complete nutrition ones at Sam's too. I actually went and bought this wire mesh container so I could keep my lunas on the kitchen island - they look so cute sitting in that little container - almost like they are in a vending machine. My DH laughs at me.......
Good morning to all you other chickies!!
Deets - Hope you are doing well - haven't been on too much lately. Don't forget us now that you are skinny and beautiful!!!
Shennie - Hope your not working too hard - Don't want that Dorito Devil to come and snag you...heheheheh -Your too close to the maintenance heaven you described - plus Deets will need a neighbor before she gets too lonely.
Katie - Hope you got your massage - or are planning it soon so that you can feel some better. I'm feeling a need for one myself. The DH got me a certificate for a day spa for my birthday in NOv - wanted to wait till after the holiday stress was over to use it!!! Hope you found some answers to the soy/stomach problems!! I will have to ask my chiro next time I go - he does alot of nutrition and kineisiology(sp?).......
Barbara - Where are you??
Britt - Great on starting the gym. You've done wonderful and only 1 lb from goal is great!~!! You will see it start melting off after you get to the gym on a regular basis - plus it will give you more energy for school too!!
Wake up west coast...yes, I know it is still only 5 am there - but hey - we always miss you in the mornings.:hug: ....:carrot:
marbear
02-01-2006, 09:50 AM
Katie, I had a similar situation with my DH and the laundry...and the dishes...and anything else involving cleaning. He is an engineer, so that means he knows the absolute best way to do ANYTHING :rolleyes: . I just said he was so much smarter and better than me that I didn't feel fit to do the dishes anymore...so he needed to take over permanently. Girl, he has not complained since. Same thing with his laundry...he complained until I DID go on strike. Now I will throw stuff in the washer and dryer for him, but not fold it, iron it, or put it away (you know, the hard parts). Let me add I am NONE TOO PROMPT in pulling his crap out of the dryer...leaving lots more ironing work for him. HA! Don't play games with me buddy...because I WILL OWN YOU.
Day one TO today...gotta go get ready for my mom's club business meeting. Yawn.
Mary
hkychik
02-01-2006, 11:21 AM
Sorry, haven't figured out how to quote an actual message in a repley - "Lori - and yes these chickies are absolutely wonderful!!! So what hockey team do you like? I'm a Hurricane Fan.....I was supposed to go to the game on Saturday b/c they retired Ron Francis's jersey - but I was soooo sick....."
Thank you for the warm welcome! I like the Flames - although we don't live anywhere near an NHL team. My son plays on a travel team, and I adminstrate for the association he plays for. We do have a WHL team in town, and we go to lots of their games - this Friday, they are tinting the ice pink and using pink pucks in support of breast cancer research....
Chklithunder
02-01-2006, 11:50 AM
Please post in LAWL Losers & Friends - February 2006