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almost there
12-31-2005, 12:36 AM
I love my Diet pepsi and I was wondering if you can drink too much of it. I figure as long as I get my 8 glasses or more of water in a day, then I can drink my diet pepsi aswell. Is this a good way for me to be thinking, or should I really try to cut back on the diet pepsi?


BrunetteChic_2000
12-31-2005, 12:42 AM
I hope not, because I am a Coke Zero addict! I really don't think you can have to much of it, espicially when you are drinking water.

Deanna7272
12-31-2005, 12:57 AM
Diet Dew here girls.... I LOVE IT... My problem is that I am picking up the bottle of Diet Dew INSTEAD of water....


Safiyah_is_Fluffy
12-31-2005, 04:27 AM
i love diet cherry pepsi sooo good, diet soda always makes my throat kinda weird so i know i definately drink too much :(

HiImChristine
12-31-2005, 09:37 AM
i heard drinking diet soda makes people more likely to get fat. theres something about it.. i dunno it was on the news

srmb60
12-31-2005, 09:49 AM
My vote is for Diet Coke. As for the too much part. That may be in the eye of the beholder. It is a whole bottle of chemicals. As in all things, moderation is key. A couple of servings a day is probably not going to hurt you or your weight loss efforts.

lucky
12-31-2005, 11:29 AM
I've been drinking Diet Coke since forever and it hasn't inhibited my weight loss at all. It hasn't done anything for me nutritionally, obviously, but it hasn't kept me from losing weight either.

chick_in_the_hat
12-31-2005, 11:48 AM
I drink a lot of caffeine free diet soda (maybe 3-4 a day).....it hasn't killed me yet....I'm not saying it's good for me, but it's better than sugary drinks! I drink quite a bit of water as well (maybe 2 quarts a day)...so it's not like I'm not hydrated.

I.P. Freely should be my screen name. :lol3:

HatterasMermaid
12-31-2005, 11:52 AM
Diet Code Red Mountain Dew and Coke Zero! I also drink water like it is ...well...WATER! I try to limit my diet soda consumption to 1 or 2 at the max a day! On another site that I visit, someone mentioned that sodas are acidic and damaging to your teeth and gums. I hadn't really considered that fact.... but, well, it makes sense! (Of course, I didn't stop drinking my diet soda! ;) )

invisigoth
12-31-2005, 11:53 AM
Well, I've read that any carbonated beverages, regardless of whether they are diet are not, could lead to enamel damage to your teeth. I've also heard that it may be damaging to your bones. I've been told by my doctor that it may lead to ulcers too. So I try to keep away from sodas now.

Here's some links that I found:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKX/is_3_71/ai_93204932

http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/NTMarchive/600.shtml#bones

Altari
12-31-2005, 12:15 PM
Just MHO, but you're really doing yourself more harm than good by switching from regular to diet. You aren't altering how you eat to have a more healthful diet, you're just replacing something bad with something slightly less bad. And if you're only drinking a can or two a week, why not just spend the calories and have the real thing?

GonnaLooseitagain
12-31-2005, 12:58 PM
yes diet pop is also bad for you. I used to drink 2-3 20oz bottles of diet pepsi a day, I have stopped and now only have like 1 20oz bottle a week. I have had a 12 pack of DP in my fridge for 3 weeks now, and I think there are 8-9 left. Anything that is PROCESSED (like the artificial sweetners in diet pop) or even sugar, corn syrup, ect are bad for you, so eliminating or reducing your intake of them drastically will improve your weight loss efforts

Safiyah_is_Fluffy
12-31-2005, 01:20 PM
well I don't think diet soda can hinder your weight loss efforts unless you think you can consume more of other things because you had a diet soda, that's where people run into problems, my hubby is a macrobiotic councelor, pro organic etc etc, and believe me, soda of any kind is not good for your body, it contains some chemicals that may be carcinogenic (cancer causing) and too much carbonation is not good for your body either plus colors added, caffeine, etc etc, definately bad for you........

I drink it because I admit I am addicted and it quells my urge for having something sweet, I hope when I reach my goal that I can concentrate on eliminating this from my diet but for now its a crutch :P

as for processed foods definately bad, I really try to limit my intake of them and mostly eat a middle eastern style diet with organic grains and organic products when I can fresh veggies, sheep yogurt, lebaneh, pita home made dishes

sweet_pea
12-31-2005, 03:50 PM
diet soda can be extremely dangerous in large quantities due to the aspartame (artifical sweetener). the same is true of other "diet" products

here is an extract from about.com
There are three main areas that demonstrate serious potential hazards with aspartame use, especially long-term use.

1. Formaldehyde Exposure.

The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde.
Formaldehyde is known to cause gradual damage to the nervous system, the immune system and has recently been shown to cause irreversible genetic damage at long-term, low-level exposure.

The most recent, independent research shows that the situation related to aspartame may be more serious than simply regular formaldehyde exposure. This research on animals demonstrates that the formaldehyde accumulates as adducts (bound to protein molecules) in the organs (brian, liver, kidneys) and tissues of the animals when aspartame is ingested at relatively low doses:


"These are indeed extremely high levels for adducts of formaldehyde, a substance responsible for chronic deleterious effects that has also been considered carcinogenic. .... "It is concluded that aspartame consumption may constitute a hazard because of its contribution to the formation of formaldehyde adducts." [Life Sciences (scientific journal), Vol. 63, No. 5, pp. 337+, 1998]

Detailed information about aspartame and chronic, low-level formaldehyde poisoning can be found on the Web at: http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/abuse/methanol.html.

2. Independent Research Finds Problems With Aspartame.

An analysis of peer reviewed medical literature using MEDLINE and other databases was conducted by Ralph G. Walton, MD, Chairman, The Center for Behavioral Medicine, Professor of Clinical Psychiatry, Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine. Dr. Walton analyzed 164 studies which were felt to have relevance to human safety questions. Of the 90 non-industry-sponsored (independent) studies, 83 (92 percent) identified one or more problems with aspartame. Of the 74 aspartame industry-sponsored studies, all 74 (100 percent) claimed that no problems were found with aspartame. Details can be found on the following web page: http://www.dorway.com/peerrev.html.

3. Extremely Large Number of Reported Toxicity Reactions to Aspartame.

As of 1995 when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was quoted as saying they stopped accepting adverse reaction reports on aspartame, over 75 percent of the adverse reactions reported to the FDA Adverse Reaction Monitoring System (ARMS) were due to aspartame. After considering the fact that an extremely low percentage of adverse reactions are reported to the FDA, it becomes clear that there are millions of known cases of aspartame toxicity reactions and possibly many other cases where the person ingesting aspartame is either 1) unaware that their symptoms are caused or contributed to by aspartame; or 2) not yet experiencing clinically-obvious symptoms from the breakdown products of aspartame, but may eventually experience chronic health problems from the regular exposure to significant doses of formaldehyde.

Some of the many aspartame toxicity symptoms reported include seizures, headaches, memory loss, tremors, convulsions, vision loss, nausea, dizziness, conufsion, depression, irritability, anxiety attacks, personality changes, heart palpitationns, chest pains, skin diseases, loss of blood sugar control, arthritic symptoms, weight gain (in some cases), fluid retention, excessive thirst or urination. Clearly, regular exposure to a toxic substance such as formaldehyde may worsen, or in some cases contribute to the development of chronic diseases. More information on symptoms detailed in medical journals and in case reports can be found on the web at: or http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/adverse.txt.

mousie
12-31-2005, 04:14 PM
Eh. I was a diet Dr. Pepper fiend, totally cut off all sodas for a solid year, and it made no difference. None, nothing, nada, ZIP. I went back to diet sodas (diet cherry coke now) and I notice no difference. I drink plenty of water (3+ liters/day) and I stop drinking anything caffeinated at 4pm so I sleep through the night. Other than that, eh. Diet is less caloric than regular, sure. Regular contains HFCS, diet contains aspartame. You get to decide which evil you will partake of. For myself, regular is way too sweet and makes me gag. So I drink diet.

Thehopefulcry2
12-31-2005, 05:51 PM
My vote is for Diet Coke. As for the too much part. That may be in the eye of the beholder. It is a whole bottle of chemicals. As in all things, moderation is key. A couple of servings a day is probably not going to hurt you or your weight loss efforts.

Hi my name is Heather and Im addicted to diet coke!

There is ALOT. and I mean ALOT of sodium in diet sodas....

But I think drinking lost of water with it would help, Than again, what do I know?
~Heather~

wednesdaymorning
12-31-2005, 05:53 PM
She beat me to it :) ^

Also, there's a lot of sodium in diet sodas. That's what most of it consists of. That makes you retain water and look larger. I cut diet soda almost out of my diet (one or two a week) and it has helped a lot. Nothing wrong in moderation, but water is better for you. :)

almost there
12-31-2005, 06:00 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies back. I had to ask because I tend to drink about4-5 cans a day PLUS atleast 8 glasses of water or more. I wasnt sure if I should cut out the diet pepsi or if it would even make a difference. But yes, I didnt think about all of the sodium in it. I am going to try to cut back to atleast 1-2 cans a day plus my water after reading all of your replies. Thanks I hope everyone is doing well. Have a Great New Year!!

mousie
12-31-2005, 09:09 PM
Just an FYI, I just looked at a can of diet cherry Coke and it says it has 40mg of sodium. If you're following the guidelines recommended by the AHA, their sodium limit is 2,400 mg. Just so you know.

mdchick
01-01-2006, 11:05 PM
I've wrestled with this question for a while because I would like to be free of my addiction to diet sodas. However, I can say with anecdotal evidence that diet soda will not at all delay weight loss and may in fact promote weight loss. I have started to drink a lot more diet soda since becoming a medical student and have lost 10+ pounds in the process. My BMI started in the normal range and went to the more middle section of the normal range, so I don't think that it only applies if you have a lot to lose.

As far as the chemical additives, nothing have read convinces me that the additives will cause me any long term harm. The reasons for my wanting to quit diet soda intake are related to cost.

I guess one other thing to add is that every other medical student and physician I know drinks diet over regular soda. I guess I trust their judgment since they read all the relevant primary literature on the subject.

jillybean720
01-01-2006, 11:05 PM
Just an FYI, I just looked at a can of diet cherry Coke and it says it has 40mg of sodium. If you're following the guidelines recommended by the AHA, their sodium limit is 2,400 mg. Just so you know.
Yeah, I was gonna say...I"m pretty sure most diet sodas have way less than 100mg or sodium (most actually less than 50, if I remember my Coke Zero label correctly), which really isn't a lot of sodium, or at least not enough to cause water retention (unless, of course, you're drinking like 20 servings of the stuff a day :p).

I disagree with whoever it was that said you're doing more harm than good by switching from regular to diet soda. If soda is a must-have, then why not have a soda with no calories? Plain common sense, if you ask me.

As for the claims against aspartame and whatnot, all products have people who will react badly. Splenda has plenty of cases of people who have had adverse reactions, and yet, it's in thousands of products now. If it bothers you, don't drink it. If you're not feeling any side effects, then I say hey, drink up!

As for tooth enamel and/or gum health: if it's really something you're worried about, then drink with a straw--less of the soda touches your teeth this way.

As for bones, I have read that it's the caffeine that is typically blamed for prohibiting calcium absorption in bones. If you don't drink TOO MUCH (again, moderation is always key), then I don't think it would ever cause a problem.

There are even studies coming out recently that say that you can count diet soda as part of your water consumption for the day since that's what it mostly is anyway (check the label--#1 ingredient is water). If you're honestly worried about any of the chemicals or additives found in diet soda, then I hope you're also only eating fruits and veggies (wholely organic, of course, to reduce chemical risks from pesticides), fresh meat (as in from animals that have not been injected with hormones or fed processed or alterred foods), and milk from a cow you raised and milked yourself.

Honestly, I think that if diet soda is a major dieting concern of yours, then maybe you should look at the ingredients of some of the things we eat every day! In this day and age, you're ingesting chemicals (likely including carcinogens) no matter what, but so long as you balance your diet appropriately with enough "good" stuff, it shouldn't be a problem.

Short and sweet--if you think diet soda is hindering your weight loss, maybe you should cut it out completely for a few weeks and see if it makes a difference. Otherwise, bottoms up!

DaisyBug08004
01-02-2006, 08:20 AM
Diet soda is not BAD - but as I always say to my son "Too much of a good thing is still Too much". Look - the bottom line is that you could be drinking something better - like water (don't make those faces, LOL you know it is good for you!)... I think a little moderation might be just what the doctor ordered here. Let's imagine you normally drink 6 cans of diet soada a day... why not make a deal with yourself to drink three instead and replace the other three with water - or even a nice herbal tea. A compromise f you will...

I think the biggest problem I have with artificial sweeteners is that when I over indulge (and believe me - there is nothing I like better than diet, caffeine free dr pepper! LOL) I get a UTI. This is usually enough to make me cut back for a while...

I now try to drink all 10 glasses of water ( I drink 2 extra to counteract the dehydrating effect of my morning coffee) and THEN I allow myself one can of my precious dr pepper, LOL... Gives me something to look forward to.

Good luck to you.