Support Groups - "Every-Day" 21-Day Challenge -- Do it till you've got it!!

12-13-2005, 07:26 PM
Okay, everyone, as is the tradition, I start a new thread when I personally start a new challenge.

Below is a short explanation of how this challenge works so all you newcomers can take a look and decide if you're game or not! I hope you are! Hop aboard and enjoy the ride. We've got a great bunch of supportive people, so I hope you'll give us a try. A lot of people try for a while and then disappear.. I hope some of you will keep trying. There is NO shame in starting over. Remember, it's not over till you give up. And our motto around here is:

NEVER GIVE UP!!...Just start OVER!!


It works like this: you decide you'll do something for 21 days straight, every single day, so keep it doable. Then you count through 21.....and if you flub it, you MUST go back to zero and start over again. Everyone will be on different days. You can start anytime. At the beginning of the challenge you declare what level it is -- Level 1, 2, or 3. Level 1 means you feel it's a relatively easy challenge for you and means you only give yourself ONE pause day (see explanation of pause days below). Level 2 would give you two pause days and so on...

With a pause day you pause in your counting and continue the next day with the number you left off with. Pause days are NOT substitutes for days, i.e. Day 12 -- Day 13 -- Pause Day -- Day 14..... I suggest taking a pause day late in the game (better to go back to Day 1 early on) if you need a break or screw up when you're well into the challenge, meaning, when you're on Day 15 or something like that.

In any case, the trick is to keep going. The momentum builds and it's great incentive to stick to your guns, cause if you don't.........back to START you go. :( And the really great thing about this challenge is that you are forming new habits that will wipe out the old! AND, you get to do it with a great bunch of really supportive people to whom you are accountable! :grouphug:

Please join us!! :wave:

12-13-2005, 07:35 PM
Okay, people! I'm starting my new challenge today...more on that later...maybe just another crunchie...and here's the new thread. Will write more later.

Fish -- Thanks. The food poisoning was awful. It still is. I still have stomach pains but only sometimes. I was still very weak yesterday but ate, even though a lot of it was junk, and feel a lot stronger today. I am determined to get out and there and to the gym today, if only for a bit of light movement and jogging perhaps AND I am going to put only GOOD things into my mouth. Yesterday when I was walking past a vegetable shop and seeing how cheap the veggies were I was thinking, damn! I could save so much money AND lose weight AND do great things for my body and skin if I would just concentrate on eating fresh vegetables. The money I p'ss away on garbage food, prepared foods...ugh!! This is going to stop!! :mad: Well, Fish, I'm glad to see you're setting out on a new challenge. I was typing on the old one and when I realized you were starting a new challenge too I thought, okay, time for a new thread. So here it is! Good luck!

Apple -- Stay away from CBETA's pasta! :nono:

ees -- Thanks for the welcome back! I sure can use it. Feeling very beaten down.... :( But I WILL prevail!! :sunny: More later!

I'll be back!! :wave:

12-13-2005, 08:08 PM
Morning Red, thanks for the new home. I'm sure we will fill it soon enough.
Bad news about that food poisoning but did you enjoy HK while you were there?

I hope you do go on the veg dash. It is so easy and so good for you. I thought veg in Japan were very reasonably priced.

I'm on day 9 of my no bread challenge and to be honest I am not missing it much now. I'm still doing abs/ crunches but not on a challenge. I have to think up some harder ones now. These are getting so easy I'm doing 30 or 40 of them on reps. Pity there is little change in gut. Still we keep plugging away.

Okay, time to dash. Gotta love it when you're busy.

12-13-2005, 08:22 PM
hey red hope u are feelin better!

day 9 >>>> 1287 calories

12-13-2005, 08:28 PM
I'm with you Apple - CBETA's cheesy pasta sounds soooo good! And I just ate :cry: so a lot of this extra hunger I've been having lately has GOT to be emotional/false hunger.

I took your advice Fish and had a nice big salad with my sandwhich at lunch today, and it really seemed to help! I lasted a lot longer between lunch and my afternoon snack than I did between breakfast and my morning snack :) Yay! Thanks!

I'm thinking it has been emotional hunger maybe :dz: I'm thinking maybe it is a lack of grains in my diet - not lack of, but not enough. So tomorrow I'm going to have more grain schtuff.

One thing that I am not crazy about as far as dieting goes, is that I think about food SOOOO much more than I normally do. I am much more productive about it this time around though! When I think about food, I read articles on or, look up recipes and try to come up with new foods to buy when I go grocery shopping next so that I keep it interesting. It is not all that bad to think about food a lot - at least my health is a higher priority than it used to be! :halffull:

Nice to read you Red :) I've never had food poisoning, in addition to the pain and sickness, it sounds frustrating - not being able to work out. Hope you were able to do it!!

Alt - as far as the substitution of carbs... I'm not sure if I do that!! I first started cutting out refined sugars a while ago. I still have them from time to time, but it's been a while since I went from a lot to none so I can't remember what my first reaction to it was. A few things come to mind though. First, since you are losing sugars - maybe the carbs in whatever you have been eating are a natural substitute to your body. Whatever it liked getting from the soda and chocolate maybe, it can kind of get from the stuff you have been substituting it with? That's not really helpful, is it? :p When I cut down my sugars, I purposely tried to eat extra fruit. I made 'pretend' desserts for myself so that I would have a treat to look forward too. Strawberries in sugar free yogurt or cottage cheese, farina (made with milk, hmmm creamy) with cinnamon and banana, apples and sugar free peanut butter - or even better, sugar free almond butter. That stuff is divine! As far as soda, I cut that out a while ago as well as fruit juice. I LOVE the stuff! If I want a soda, I drink seltzer - flavored or I add a tiny bit of fruit juice, Seneca Falls apple juice I believe is sugar free, if you are concerned :P... Anyway, I don't know if you are looking for substitutions for your substitutions - hope this helps! How long ago did you quit smoking?! Congratulations!! I am also an ex-smoker, 4 1/2 months :D

12-13-2005, 08:29 PM
Shad -- Hello there. You're very welcome. Figured I should start a new thread even though I hadn't finished my last challenge. It got derailed. I had every intention of finishing it and was doing great but the illness won. Still, it's hardly a loss. My abs are much stronger. You really can't see much difference because there still is too much fat on top of them but I do see how my upper midsection is more raised and pulled-together looking nonetheless.

To do the veggie thing I think I will have to find some sort of base that I really like, into which I can throw just about any vegetable and have it taste good to me. It has to be easy, so just boiling or microwaving....nothing like a zapped sweet potato with a bit of butter...yum!!

You're doing great with your challenges. Sorry to hear work and things are a real problem these days for you. Sure hope things get a bit better for you. People are losing any sort of Xmas spirit, aren't they? It's all irrelevant here, even if there are decorations out. Fine with me. The 25th is a work day, big race here and I prefer not to even think of Christmas. Makes me sad for old times....

As for Hong Kong, I would say, no, I didn't enjoy it much. It's hard for me to enjoy a place where I don't speak the language and am not expected to and not encouraged to. I don't know what HK was like before the handover but I think I would have liked it even less. I am not an Anglo-Saxon fan, I must admit. Something cliqueish, something pretentious, false, cold, I don't know...and this time in HK I had a lot more contact with the expat crowd and it left me feeling very unpleasant. I mean, we're all foreigners and supposedly have things in common, but I felt I had very, very little in common with them and was actually put off by the entire scene, this feeling of "looking down on the natives." Unlike Japan, where foreigners actually do learn Japanese, the expats in HK don't and the Chinese don't seem to want or expect them to. I found myself wanting to speak Chinese but realize Cantonese is extremely hard to learn....which makes me want to learn it all the more. Getting sick really ticked me off. I don't like places where things are just so iffy and people aren't caring about hygiene. Of course, it may have been the water. The one thing that was nice were the stores. There were clothes that fit me, unlike Japan, where there is nothing. I wish I had had money to buy things. It was perfect. Big enough sizes, yet petite, which is what this short, stocky one needs. I don't think HK is at all for me though. Being vegetarian means I can't eat the food. And the smell of the spices they use was actually making me ill. There is something...I don't know what it is...that you smell everywhere and I hate it. I was glad to be back in Tokyo. Still, I wish I knew Cantonese.... :shrug:

12-13-2005, 08:59 PM
Thick vege stews with a spice or two or soups. I loved that soup that you get everywhere in Japan with a bit of tofu and a bit of veg in it. It was good and filling. As for the kumara (sorry sweet potato) with butter, try it with a natural set low fat yoghurt and see how you like it. (I think it is better than sour cream). I add a bit of fresh (but I suppose a little dried stuff would do) mint, tarragon and/ or oregano to mine. I could happily live on that.

I found HK to be noisy, smelly and choked. And I was only there a short while. I can sort of understand where you are coming from with the Anglo Saxon colonisation type thing. Japan never had it - apart from Okinawa I guess) and has therefore stayed essentially Japanese. Hong Kong doesn't quite know where it fits. Certainly the Brits were not the best settlers in the world - great explorers and colonisers - everywhere they colonised in Asia says the same thing. Indians I have spoken to talk about the British Raj and give the impression they would like to spit at the same time.

Oh good, some more work has landed on my desk. Time to do something.

12-13-2005, 09:20 PM
Shad -- You're talking about miso soup. I don't enjoy it much anymore. I eat it and it is very good for you but I am tired of the dashi (fish-based) stock that's usually used (this is in Kanto, not Kansai). But you reminded me that I love miso itself and it makes an excellent base, adds a lot of body and flavor and requires no cooking in like spices do. Thanks for the reminder!

"Doesn't quite know where it fits"....yes! that's the feeling exactly. All these Chinese with English names and British accents who still have a hard time understanding, American...though I don't have much of an accent and I do speak very clearly...

The noise and choked feeling of HK I can take I suppose. Coming from Tokyo it seemed quite empty actually. Still, I only know it at the best time of year. The smells do get to me though as I have a very sensitive nose.

The racing scene as well, the riding I saw there was horrible, the conditions of the stables and training were horrendous, so unnatural, and I know nearly every horse is killed as there is no breeding. I did enjoy speaking to the foreign jocks, mostly the French and South Africans. Was down at Happy Valley and the place was packed with Brits and Aussies. Again, the Aussies seemed a lot more fun. The Brits came across as total stuffed shirts, looked so incongruous in their fancy suits with beer guts and pints in their hands. I don't know. I guess it's an American thing with me..... ;) need things a bit more scruffy, laidback and straightforward. Australians, Kiwis I tend to enjoy. Oops. I better shut up.

Oh well, HK is bizarre. I wish I could enjoy it more but I know I won't unless I can get a feel for the lingo. It was the same in India. The weird not-English, not-Indian feeling I had from the city people. I preferred the country folk, but then I was conversational in Bengali and that was the key I think. Anyhow.....

12-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Okay, trying to get a bit caught up here. Feel a LOT better today. Have some power back. I was just so run down yesterday. Guess it came from not having eaten much. Amazing how a couple days without food can really deplete you.

curly -- Thanks for the get well wishes. You are doing amazing things again. I understand your wanting to bomb the scale. How can it not be moving? I don't understand that at all. If I were eating as little as you I would be losing weight like crazy. What goes? :dunno:

alteon -- I am really against all this no-carb stuff. We NEED carbohydrates. It's as simple as that. Most people are simply confusing the processed foods and empty carbs for the real thing. Yes, get rid of those but keep the others. Wheat bread and oatmeal, unless it's whole-grain and totally whole grain, which is very hard to find outside of Europe, and unless it's steelcut oats, also hard to find, are still processed. Go for real foods, meaning foods that have not been changed by man's hand. Eat vegetables and fruit. Eat brown rice. These things can be found in natural food shops, which can be hard to find too depending where you live. I don't think it would be easy in Wisconsin. But it's probably easier than Tokyo (it's only recently that you can get brown rice here easily) and mailorder works fine. I would first worry about changing the KIND of food you eat and then worry about cutting down on carbs and really this is only another means of cutting down on calories, which is the only way you're going to lose fat.

ees- The same goes for you and the PMS eating. Read alteon's part above. You've got to get away from anything processed. It's a waste of calories and not filling and that is what your body wants. You can easily get by on 1800 if you cut out the processed food.

stage -- You're doing great. Good luck on your new challenge! :flow1:

Phys -- You too. Keep it going!

CBETA -- You sound to be doing well. You'll have to give us some reminders on just what your letter challenges are. And we're glad to have you here.

swimming -- You're still there with us! Enjoy your trainer. I have one with my racer on it. It works very well.

Sushi -- How's it going with you? Oh, and a belated congrats on completing your running challenge! :cp: :woo: :cp: Way to go!!! Anything on the burner?

marble -- So, are you on a challenge right now? Yes, now I see, you are. What is it exactly? I've been so out of it. I'm glad to hear you're feeling better and are able to move more. Please take care and don't have any more accidents!!

chai -- How about you? Are you still with us?

carla -- Where are you!?!??! :dunno: Come back and give us a shout or two! :cb:

Phoe -- Are you feeling ok? Back spasms? What were they about?!??! I think you should set yourself a challenge that is more doable, like me with the crunches, something that can give you some confidence. Don't give up, ok? We want you here! :yes:

Ok, anyone I missed?! I hope not, but if so, get in here and tell me about it! Newbies, lurkers! Come out and give us a holler! Everyone is welcome! :wave:

12-13-2005, 11:56 PM
I am pleased with myself today. I gave blood for the first time today. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I also managed to avoid chocolate. They gave me cookies to get my sugars up. I opted for the peanut butter. I knew that there would be cookies there, and I used that as part of going and doing this. Now that I've done it, I'd like to do it again eventually, with out "bribing" myself with cookies. I have low blood pressure as a rule, so I almost passed out.

Today is day 15 for the soda and day 11 for the chocolate. To whoever asked me when I quit smoking, I quit 4 years ago....that was nothing compared to me trying to lose weight.

Last night I had Chinese food for supper. Naughty, yeah...but good. I did not have fried rice, however.

As far as my carb issue. I am beginning to think it's not the type of carbs but how many I eat. I just think I need to vary my food choices more than I have been. I ate the cookies with out guilt because they served a purpose. Shockingly, they kept me full for a long time. As for whole foods, there aren't that many stores around here. I live in town of maybe ten thousand if you count the out lying areas...there's one store that has some rices and things. My husband and I have switched to brown rice and wheat products, and have started to get racist about our food. No more white stuff. We ditched the peanut butter about three weeks ago. I almost had a heart attack, but now I'm okay with it. Lately, apple sauce has been my poison of choice. I suppose it could be worse. One thing I redeem myself with is that when I do eat carbs or "carby" things, like Raisins and Carrots, there are worse things I could be eating.

Thanks to all for answering my carb question. Advice, opinions, they all help. I'd love to go to Tokyo. There's a huge optical fair there. I'd be in heaven to go there. Other cultures fascinate me, especially Eastern cultures.

12-14-2005, 03:42 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 1
No Chocolate Day 12
*No Soda Day 30 * Challenge Completed* Goal December 25th.

12-14-2005, 09:08 AM
i think going thru menapause has an effect on weight loss Red........ :( LMAO must pause everything!

And i have been at this since march so i think my body is fightin back!

12-14-2005, 09:47 AM
Pilates / Lifting Day 3 = complete!

I was on auto-pilot this morning. I woke up, I did pilates, I ate breakfast, I went to work... and here I am. Nice.

12-14-2005, 12:22 PM
Today has just begun, but I am not overly worried about it. We're getting a snow storm all day today, so work should be slow.

I was thinking of everyone who is doing a challenge involving exersize. I'm already on day 16 w/ no soda, and it's gone by really fast. Also, you must get some good results w/ doing it for atleast 21 days. I know that my problem is keeping up with it. That's a great challenge to take on, and I applaud everyone who is doing a challenge, but especially the exersize related ones.

In a moment of guilt, I realized that although I post on this site, ask a lot of questions, I don't really show the support I feel for everyone, and I'm sorry for that. I don't want anyone to think I don't care about any of you. Just at times I am bad with words.

Thursday and Friday I am going out to eat. Normally I wouldn't do this, but it's been very long standing invites. However, since I got to choose were we eat, I have chosen places with a decent variety of healthier foods. I am debating about the possibility of taco salad. I just put lettuce, mild sauce and meat on mine. No great shakes.

Well, I have to go shovel. I'm happy I didn't give blood from my right arm, as my left one's a bit sore yet.

12-14-2005, 12:26 PM
Yesterday was day 2. I went crazy at the gym - lifted weights for 15 minutes and then ran on the treadmill. I was going to do only 2 miles (which would have put me at 35 minutes of total exercise for the day) but went ahead and ran 4 miles instead. :dizzy: So I ended up working out for almost an hour total:carrot: I think today I will just do yoga to try and stretch out from the lifting and running.

Work is slow, I am cold and grumpy and am SO looking forward to my cruise and warmer weather. Only 24 days away - and I still want to lose 4 pounds before then! I suppose I should have a few more crazy days at the gym!

12-14-2005, 12:35 PM
In a moment of guilt, I realized that although I post on this site, ask a lot of questions, I don't really show the support I feel for everyone, and I'm sorry for that. I don't want anyone to think I don't care about any of you. Just at times I am bad with words.

I think that I'm in the same boat as you! I feel like I use a lot on this site, but I'm more of an 'answering questions' than a 'giving moral support and congratulations' kind of girl. I really appreciate when people write little comments to me, but somehow it just overwhelms me to try and do the same!

But in the spirit of friends -- HURRAH!!! to everyone! I adore this thread and I love during the day when I check and someone has posted.

12-14-2005, 03:09 PM
Day #7---15 mins. of cardio and wts. (i'm definitely working a sweat!)

Day 8-:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot:

18 mins. of cardio/wts. I can feel a slight soreness in my flabby buttisimo

I went to ortho doc yesterday and new xrays still show fracture but my mobility has improved. I have more PT exercises to do and was told to do 2 sets of 18 reps. 6 days a week.....HAH! I can only do one set of 6!:o so I guess I have a ways to go. i am sore, but need to use the arm.

I'm not overeating, but not losing any either, I guess my metabolism just went coach Carla!:drill: :coach: :coach: :coach: I keep eating the RIGHT things like fresh berries/ cantelope and good protein but my body wt. has a mind of it's own:?: :mad:

red, sorry to hear about the tummy-ick. Now here is a stupid decent is that *instant* Miso soup taste you can get in the asian markets in the US? I haven't tried it, but am curious as I've had it in restaurants and enjoyed it. thanks for the info.

12-14-2005, 03:46 PM
The return of the prodigal Carla...

Sometimes I think I disappear from time to time just to see if I'm missed. And I was! You like me! You really like me!!! (Brief Sally Field moment there.) :lol:

Day 11 completed yesterday for both challenges. (I was tempted to do a chocolate binge, but did the math and realized that if I use more than one more pause day I'll still be on this challenge on Christmas eve, and on Sunday I have a dinner party, so... I'm determined to finish the challenge this time.)

My buzzer just went off, and I'll have to head to the laundry room soon or risk finding my dainties piled gracelessly on a bench. Yes, it's the dark ages here: when the building was put up 30 years ago, they didn't put in a plumbing system that would accommodate ensuite laundry in the units. So although I have an illegal dryer up here, a washer could too easily cause sink backup in the units under me. It's almost enough to make me move. But I won't. (The old ladies who live here - and I mean REALLY old - love the shared laundry so they can chat and have social contact.)

Anyway, I realized the other day I had actually lost one third of the weight I want to get off! :woo: :carrot: :carrot: :woo: (Hence the chocolate urge - desire to celebrate/sabotage.) It's a little tough right now, as I'm cold all the time, but I can't really say I'm hungry. And that old demon, after-dinner eating, still has me in its sway. At least now I'm munching on fruit and cheese instead of my usual crackers or whatever.

Marble, you're amazing. All banged up and broken, and yet you're still exercising! I'm really glad you're doing well - if I'm not mistaken, you'll need lots of strength for family gatherings in the next few weeks. Have you managed to dig out from under the mountain of accumulated work at the office? As for the weight, if you continue on your virtuous path, you're bound to see a sudden surprise drop one of these days.

Red, dear Red. What a pain to have been sick when you're not even home with your cats and your own "stuff" to comfort you. But you've certainly been posting prolifically, so you're on the mend for sure! I know what you mean about wonderign why we eat all the wrong things when veg is cheaper and often just as easy. Lately I've been buying lots of bagged salad greens (lazy, lazy me!) and I'll just grill some meat or fish (you could use tofu?) and toss it into a big bowl of salad with some crumbled feta and a cut-up apple or pear or some grapes and a few pine nuts and some store-bought caesar lite dressing and it's SO good - and FAST. It has really helped on those nights when I'm hungry but lazy and am on the verge of opting for a big sandwich followed by many bad things. And congrats on those nice tight abs hiding under the winter padding! I'm not ready to start working on the squishy middle yet.

Alt, don't worry about not giving individual messages. I think we all end up writing a message when someone else's post speaks to us, and of course various people find they have a special affinity with other specific posters, and also the longer you hang around the better you know everyone and the more you'll have to say.

Curly, if you'd like, I can give you the short version of the diet I'm following (supposedly 1200 cals, but more, I think) which has helped me move that ticker at last. Maybe it would give you the jump start or metabolism boost you need to see some action? Let me know, and I'll PM you.

Yikes :yikes: ! My laundry! Gotta run.

12-14-2005, 04:06 PM
thanks carla.. there really isnt much more i can take out of my diet, i eat no white flour, no high glycemic foods, no bread, no sugar, watch my carbs ... lmao not much else left.. hahaha

12-14-2005, 04:26 PM
Carla, Carla, Carla.....babbling about your lingerie, chocolate and parties. It must be nice to have a real life, SIGH! :?: Of course you are missed!:hug: :hug: :hug: Your posts are filled with lots of fun stuff. Do tell us about the exciting, *everyday exotics* you meet!:corn: :corn:

I also love lite ceasar dressing, but make it even lighter by adding lemon juice to it. (I think the no poundage lost is the result of sushi and constipation, or it could be stress from constant sparring with the devil-daughter:devil: ) Back to salad dressing. Fat-free italian with a splash of lemon/minced garlic and snip some dry (no oil, just dehydrated) sun-dried tomatoes in it a great treat.

I've been doing blackberries, raspberries, kiwi and cantelope every AM (in a desperate effort to help my poor GI tract) and a mini omlette with mushroom, red pepper and FF cheese.....I pick through lunch and do a turkey or chicken (home-made not pre-fab) burger with onion/pepper/mushroom for dinner. I still have the 3 boxes of chocolates that were sent as gifts from 8 weeks ago. no food interest, no fun interest, I'm too tired!

The happy part is I'm getting my NEW furniture for the living room next wednesday!!! I am very excited...(there is no cat hair on it yet either!)

12-14-2005, 04:40 PM
Hello all, since I do plan on actually starting some 'weight lifting' in my pilates/lifting challenge, and since I might have to switch to food challenges when this one's over... maybe this isn't too off-topic.
Can you look here
and tell me what you think?

12-14-2005, 04:58 PM
Good morning, all. I wasn't planning on getting up this early...before 5...but couldn't sleep with too much bothering me, so I got up, but will probably lie down again later.... :blah:

I am still not totally well (as if I ever will be...) and so haven't started a challenge. I did walk to the gym yesterday and back. I was going to go into the gym and do a very light bit of movement there but then realized I had forgotten my card. Not that that is really a problem (you have to fill out a form) but it was a ready excuse. Having been away, I had moved my card somewhere else. Even the walking was hard in the beginning, but I was feeling good by the end. So that was nearly two hours' total so it was progress. Today, I will try to ride. In any case I will be getting in exercise just getting out to the stables.

carla -- I am glad you decided to come back and see us. Of course we miss you, well, I miss you. Your posts add tremendous warmth and humanness to the thread and I look forward to them with great anticipation! The atmosphere on the thread varies a lot these days. It's not as cozy as it once was, not without our mez and some others. But, I guess it's up to us to set the mood and then just leave it at that instead of trying to react to whatever is out there. This is a problem I am having to deal with now and something that is getting me very down. My teacher of long at the riding club has left and I am forced to work with a kid whose riding and sentiments are totally out of line with mine. It is really bothering me and I have no alternatives that I know of. Sigh. I will just have to learn to set the mood myself as well. Okay, getting off tangent there...

Yes, it was awful in Hong Kong being sick, but I was saved by the kindness of two Japanese friends. One lives there and came over and she and her little boy stayed with me all day bringing me water and juice and a bit to eat when I finally could. The other was at the track and calling repeatedly with reports and comments from the action there, which was a lot better than the Chinese, no-sound 'cept the announcer broadcast on TV. Three of the Japanese four did very well, a first, second and fifth.

All my thoughts about healthy food went down the drain yesterday..well, not totally, but none of the vegetables I bought got eaten. I guess when you're sick, you tend to do "sick" things. Perhaps too the vegetables and fresh fruit, being full of natural roughage, are not really want the body can handle just it, no matter how healthy they may be. My morning oatmeal was wonderful though. That is excellent that you are eating salad greens, and sometimes lazy pre-packaged is the way to do it. You do what gets you there...that is my motto. What you described is the way I normally eat, that is, when I am healthy and feeling full of life. Ah-oh, nice abs will be fading if I don't get back crunching soon.

You ARE doing well with the weight loss, aren't you? You seem to be securely in Onederland. I remember when you were in and out and more out than in. It must feel great (when you think of it) to be under the psychological-barrier mark. I was thinking yesterday I want to do that by the end of the year. Don't know if it's possible but I can try. 70 kgs is my mark, haven't been under it in probably years now. It would be nice, though I know the only reason I'm getting there now is because I've stopped doing much weight training and have dropped muscle weight. Still, as long as I keep moving and get tight and toned and then get the fat off as well, I should be okay. In fact, that's the body I now want, something like those yoga bodies you see everywhere these days, strong and lithe.

marble -- You DO sound like you are getting better every day, eating well and all. Great! About the "instand miso soup taste," I really couldn't say. I don't know what it is, what brand it is. There are all types. You can get soups that are just full of chemical additives and I would think that's probably what those are. Then again, maybe not. I don't think there is any "miso soup taste" though. It probably is real miso, dehydrated. I would try to get some actual miso and just make your own soup. It is probably easier to get used to that way as, by itself in soups, it's not bad. It's mixing it with seaweed and fish-based stock that I think makes it a bit too alien for Western tastes.

Phys -- It's nice to have your support and of course we'd rather have it or not but don't worry too much. It is a bit overwhelming to respond and sometimes I too just don't. It takes a kind of response system to deal with. I copy the posts, make separate files, made a response template and work backwards. But I consider that my obligation as thread starter. Just do your challenge and reap the benefits. You get out what you put in and everyone is looking for something different. BTW, what does the Egy Kis Lany under your name mean? Just saw your last post. I think your plan sounds good. I too need to be fit and toned, not just a smaller, weaker, version of what I was. Weight loss without exercise (and that doesn't mean just a bit of walking here and there) inevitably involves muscle loss and a loss in tone. I wouldn't pay much attention to the scale when you start adding in good exercise. It really does play havoc with the scale. You will likely feel bigger too, because you are stronger. And you may look bigger because you have more presence. But I would focus on measurements and clothes size to measure your progress. Remember, you can always change your posture and appear smaller and weaker if you feel a need. :lol:

Fish -- Sounds good with the exercise. At your weight, you're going to need "crazy days" to make a dent. You will feel so good by your cruise. Ah, I miss the hot days of summer....

alteon -- Same goes for you as Phys about posting and support. But remember, you don't have to be "good with words," any will do. Nice going on the blood donation. Yes, I agree with the exercise challengers. I have been reluctant to do one except for the crunches due to time concerns mostly, but also because I probably already get in some sort of exercise every day. It's hard to quantify it and I would probably end up doing the same thing every day for a challenge and that would be tedious and probably too much. The crunches are good. Good luck on doing an exercise challenge yourself. Start small. And, shoveling snow is great exercise!

curly -- I find your situation quite discouraging and am looking forward to the scale moving for you as much perhaps as you are. You'll have to change something, won't you, but I can't imagine what from your reports. Then again, maybe you are changing in other ways that we don't realize, like tightening up, adding muscle...that would possibly not be reflected in the numbers.

stage -- You have achieved liftoff! :cp:

12-14-2005, 05:12 PM
Marble, if you had to go to the same parties I've been invited to, you wouldn't envy me my social life at all. (How do you spell obligation? p-a-r-t-y.) As for the lingerie, the least said the better. Stretched out and very, very tired, and me too cheap to replace it yet. And since I'm not eating the chocolate, just whining about it, that's no fun either. :cry:

As for your demon spawn, I'll see your nasty daughter and raise you one drunken, self-centred, heavily-smoking LOUD stepmother. I just love the holidays - not.

I might try cutting the salad dressing with lemon juice, it sounds good. And I've also been indulging in lots of fruit, especially raspberies when I can find them. As for your GI tract, I know an excessive amount of wine usually gets mine moving nicely the next day. ;) But I don't have a lot of trouble in that area, so I don't really know a lot of tricks, apart from increasing bran and hi-fiber-food intake, drinking lots of water, going to Hong Kong and drinking the water like Red :rofl: .

12-14-2005, 05:15 PM
Thanks red....I'll check out the packages/cans of the grocery....What IS "real miso"? ( I'm not an asian food afficienado--but my long time manicurist is twanese, so I can call her, she'll tell me what to buy). I also bought fresh seaweed salad, but it is dressed with sesame and a smokey oil, very good in small amounts (like what you get as an appetizer when you eat Korean in NJ).

Red, I do hope you bounce back soon, a light bland diet is probably better at this time anyway. (chicken broth) Too many veggies might make you cramp. The walk sounded like a better work-out anyway. Don't let the kid make you crazy either, riding should be a pleasure, not stressful.

BTW, where is mez? I hope all is well with her.

12-14-2005, 05:22 PM
I did send Mez a PM, but got no answer. I know I miss her sweetness and warmth, and want her to come home to us.

Mez, if you're lurking out there, let us know you're all right!

12-14-2005, 05:22 PM
If you find any asian market (and a grocery store with a nice international section) you should be able to get miso.

Miso is just a fermented bean paste (much tastier than it sounds!!) and I used to get it in a jar that I kept refridgerated. It was a paste, sort of, and I could add it to hot water or broth and then add in seaweed, mushrooms, tofu, green onions for a 'traditional' type soup, or you can put in whatever you want that will taste good to you!

The miso will settle in the liquid, though, it doesn't 'dissolve' so don't be surprised to have little clouds of miso rise when you stir the soup. Delicious!

12-14-2005, 05:24 PM

I'll see your LOUD, self-centered, heavily smoking step-mother and raise you a 350 lb. X-husband with heavy drug/alcohol use, anger-agression issues, gray hair and a full stomach and beard...(He looks like a VERY angry Santa without the red suit).:crazy: :rofl:

I've never had GI problems before like this, but I think a good dose of magnesium citrate might be called for. (that's the stuff you drink the night before you have imaging with injected dye, preferable non-ionic--and must be clean as a whistle for pics.):D

I guess a few rounds of oatmeal or shredded wheat are called for too.:o

Thank you Phys, i think I know what it is now, sounds great! I will look for it.

12-14-2005, 05:24 PM
I'm making the commitment to get at least 45 minutes of some kind of physical activity into my routine everyday. It can be walking, biking, swimming, pilates, martial arts or powerwalking. Just 45 minutes every day of some type of physical activity. I'm going to make this a level 1 challenge.

12-14-2005, 05:29 PM
Red - Thank you! I'm excited about my new plan, and hope not to freak out too much on the scale. I tend to be a daily weigher, and it might be rough for me. But since I'll be so FREAKING STRONG ARRRRG!!! I think that I'll manage. And "Egy Kis Lany" is Hungarian for "One Little Girl." When I studied abroad and would go to the house of my friends, their parents would always refer to me as the 'kis lany'... not b/c I was little, but b/c I was unmarried. Still a kid until I get hitched, I guess. They also told me that I head really nice teeth. (As it turns out, that was only b/c I smiled so much and no one was used to it.) In other events, I'm sure that now you'll remember to bring your membership card to work out and be all set for the next time, right?!

marble - When you make that oatmeal, add a few tablespoons of ground flax seed. It's yummy and fiber-rific.

Minaa - Woot! Good luck and keep us posted.

12-14-2005, 05:37 PM

I'm actually hungarian/czech. and just about fell over off my chair laughing, (have to watch I don't break something else). I think your spelling is off...but about the unmarried little girl & "nice teeth"....that is sooo typical. (they also check horses teeth too) What part of hungary, small town, village?

12-14-2005, 05:40 PM
Marble, I think you win. But surely you don't have to spend the holidays with him?! And don't you have a lovely mother to even the scales a bit?

Think Metamucil!

12-14-2005, 05:49 PM
no I never spend the holidays with him, the 11 year marriage was quite enough, but his image is like a tumor.

Apple Blossom
12-14-2005, 06:27 PM
Day 13 SWN, Day 12 WALK

I think it's funny, Carla and Marble's banter about "loved ones" and then minaaa sticks her humble post inbetween all that! Welcome too our wacky group, minaaa!:dizzy: :twirly: :dizzy: :twirly: Best wishes for a successful 21 days!

I'm in a bit of a rut lately, even though challenge wise I'm ok. I think I'll have to take my last pause day today for walk, leaving me with a long way to go...I've just been eating too much.:mad: My next challenge will have to be a food related one, I think. I guess I'm just waiting for another spurt of inspiration. And I'm too busy and stressed out to focus on anything!!! It's not the holidays, just the hectic weeks in December when the kids have lots of stuff going on. It's my daughter's birthday today!! She is 6.:hb:

Carla, I didn't realize you were doing so well!!! Congrats!!
And hello to everyone else out there too!

12-14-2005, 06:37 PM
Curly, if you'd like, I can give you the short version of the diet I'm following (supposedly 1200 cals, but more, I think) which has helped me move that ticker at last. Maybe it would give you the jump start or metabolism boost you need to see some action? Let me know, and I'll PM you..
Carla, could you post a copy or send me via PM, I am curious to see what I can do to jumpstart mine.
Thank you,

12-14-2005, 06:45 PM
Hello All!

Unfortunately I think I'm going to fail my challenge! :hungry: Yesterday I went above 1800 by about 40 calories... today was bad. I ate plenty and often but was shaking and moody within an hour of each meal.

Red - I totally agree that processed foods are no good! I don't eat much of them... although have recently replaced some meals with Slim Fast 'cause I like them (shame on me!). But not in the last couple of days when my hunger problem started. I do enjoy a soy drink that contains Splenda and drink a glass a day usually... maybe it is messing me up because it is a liquid? :dizzy:

If I list what I've eaten today... maybe someone will see something I can switch? I'm thinking if I fail the challenge, next round I will do 1800 a day, but I am allowed up to 200 calories more per day the few days before my period.

Here is what I've eaten so far today: Breakfast - 3/4 cup Uncle Sam cereal (organic with flaxseed), 1 Cup Milk, Blueberries, added flaxseed and wheat bran
Snack - .5 Cup Cottage Cheese, Med Banana
Lunch - Chile Con Carne (ground chicken, veggies, beans, sauce), 1 Cup Veggie
Snack - 1 Toast (10 grain organic bread), 1 tablespoon Peanut Butter
2nd Snack - 1 Toast, 1 tablespoon Peanut Butter, 1 cup+ milk, Apple
3rd snack - Pear

Dinner will be chicken picatta, 1 cup+veggies, 1 small potatoe... dessert hopefully only popcorn and 1/2 pomegranite or else I'm over 1800.. actually, I can't even have those 2 :( 'cause I added a cup of milk I didn't mean to have and had more peanutbutter than I originally wanted to. Looks pretty good to me - I should be full! But iss not enough!! Any advice would be great!!

I have always had issues with food just before my period. I tremble, get moody - edgy if I haven't eaten in an hour, hour and a half... and extremely sedate within 20 minutes of eating. I had pretty much fixed the issue by eating nice sized snacks/meals every hour - but being on a diet may be making it tricky for me this month? I dunno!

Red and Alteon - The stores in the US are carrying more whole grain breads and steel cut oatmeal is now being sold in most grocery stories (at least near me, I am near a big city). That said, I don't know that the whole grain wheat bread is the real stuff, but I would guess that what is sold in Whole Foods and Trader Joes is. Also, Giant and Food Lion have health/organic food sections now - usually an entire aisle or more!

Sorry that this post is all dedicated to me and not saying hi and whatnot to others. I pretty much got as far as Red's post and had the idea to post today's menu for advice. I am sooo tired! I slept through the night last night without waking up for a snack. Hopefully tonight I will do the same and I should be golden. Then I will catch up on how everyone else is doing!!
:crossed: Let's hope I make it under 1800 today!!
Thanks so much!!!


Sushi Penguin
12-14-2005, 07:08 PM
Whee, a new thread. :)

Haven't had time to post over the past few days... but I've been doing my crunches. Sunday was Day 15... it's Thursday, so this morning I completed Day 19 - almost done!

I think I'll be starting a new running challenge in the next couple days, and another one or two - leg exercises and small weights for arms, or two in one... I'll see.
Need some advice for weights first though... anyone? We have 2 kg and 4 kg weights at home. 4 kgs is a bit much to start with for me, I think. But how many reps, what moves...?

12-14-2005, 07:58 PM
Wow, some action here. And I have to get out soon. Had another little nap. I realized the reason I probably was not sleeping well was because I was too cold and I was lying there all tensed up just to keep warm. Added a couple blankets and that did the trick. Dozed off, interesting dreams..okay, up and at the oatmeal, then off to see the horse. I miss her so much when I don't see her... :(

By the way, mez did contact me. She is apparently going through some personal problems now. I would like to know she is okay though but I think it is not a time she can devote time to a challenge or us. I do miss her though.

ees -- Oh, it's perfectly OK to dedicate your post to yourself as long as you get as far as my post! :lol3: I don't know what chicken picatta is or what Uncle Sam cereal is but do know that all cereals are high in calories, so you must be careful if you're eating them a lot. You're going to have to cut out peanut butter or at least cut back to absolutely no more than 1T a day. It's very healthful and all, but it is nearly the same as eating butter, in other words, pure fat. I love it and am in the same boat as you. But when you realize that you just tallied up over 300 calories eating it, and it is not going go to do much to give you energy or keep you full (yes, yes, I know fat is satisfying but that is not ees' problem right now) you'd be better to get something with more bulk. As for whole grain breads, unless you are eating things like German Vollkorn Brot, which is pretty strange stuff, not what Americans would even consider bread, you are only getting a mix of whole grain and regular. Of course, that in itself is nothing bad, just trying to find somewhere you could improve to make yourself feel better. You sound to be eating a LOT of food, so if that doesn't do it, then I don't know, maybe you just need to up your overall calorie intake. How tall are you? Also, watch all the added flaxseed. Again, very nutritious, but nuts and seeds are very high in calories. I would cut all this out before your period and then add it in later.

CBETA -- Be careful about "jumpstarting" anything. 1200 calories is WAY too low for you and at the weight you are now you should see nice progress. Too fast is NO good!

Apple -- Glad to see you moving along. Let's not get too ambitious now. Try to get that walk in if at all possible. I know yesterday the last thing I felt like doing was walking. I'm just too depressed these days and though I got out I nearly turned around and went home a few times and that is strange for me. But after a while, I did feel better. I think we focus on our feelings way too much. Then again, you're busy and stressed.... I hope things get easier for you soon. Yes, minaaa gave us a bit of comic relief there. She must be quite brave! :lol: Oh, and a happy birthday to your little girl! :spin:

Phys -- Ok, thanks for the translation. Yes, I always wonder about those Eastern Europeans not smiling much. Hard lives, bad teeth? A combination? Daily weighing is definitely a no-no unless you can take seeing the scale do major flipflips. I mean that. Weight training..if you're going heavy, will make you sore and being sore will have your body holding water. It's nothing to worry about but it looks and weighs like fat.

minaaa -- Hello there! :welcome: It sounds like you have a great challenge ready there. Good luck!

marble -- Since Phys has answered your question on miso I won't, except to add that here it usually comes in plastic containers or just in soft packages, not jars. Also, never boil it as that will kill all the good things from the fermentation. I'm a vegetarian so chicken broth is not for me but yes I will watch out for the veggies. As for the walking, walking is ALWAYS a part of my day, the workout would have been on top of that. I usually jog 3-5 km and then do weights and the crunches. The kid at the club is not so much making me crazy as I just don't like the way she rides, so abrupt, so unrefined. My teacher was very, very good. The whole atmosphere at the place is a real downer and I wish I knew another place to go or I wish I could get good enough (this is why I stay) to be able to ride my horse the way I want to. My ex-teacher may come back. She is the owner's wife (very strange relationship they seem to have) and is ill (that is the excuse) and taking leave. But, you are right. Riding should be a pleasure (though it is very disciplined what I attempt to do) and perhaps I should just think, there are other areas I can progress in, other than what I was doing with my old teacher. I am now out in the big ring and concentrating on what to me feels like kid stuff, as I was doing more refined positioning polishing all along in the small ring. But, you need both to get good. It's not doing calculus and then going back to learn the math tables. I have major holes in my learning for many reasons. Grin and bear it perhaps, eh?

Sushi -- Good going on your challenges. What moves are you looking at for your weight training? Just arms? Legs too? Look around the Web for beginning moves. They are everywhere! Or get a book on basic bodybuilding. Also tons of books out there. It's easier than us trying to tell you what to do. I can give you tips once you're doing something, though.

12-14-2005, 08:19 PM
hey guys..

yes i think i am making progress even tho the scale seems to be stuck for me now... becuz with my circuit/resistance training everyday... even at my weight of 238 i am wearing size 16 jeans and size 16 clothes... I am 5 foot 6.. but i am also large framed.. so maybe i am replacing the fat with muscles!!!

day 10: ugh only 980 calories cuz i have had a upset stomach today and didnt feel like eating... tho i did manage to get my protein in with the protein powder... just didnt feel like having a lot of food sittin in my stomach..

12-14-2005, 08:34 PM
Ees: the only thing i can see in your menu that could be a problem is your pnut butter... i would try to find a low-carb sugar free type...
and the potato... but thats becuz i dont eat potatoes... (high sugar) they say sweet potatoes are better for u

i would check the amount of sugar in the slim fast as well.. u would be better off making a shake with whey protein powder its better for u and no sugar and the increased protein takes away the hunger...

sugar makes you want to eat more>> bananas are high glycemic .. berries and apples are better for u

just my 2 cents worth... lol

i read somewhere that each gram of sugar is equal to a tablespoon

p.s. be careful with your soy intake.. they have discovered that a lot of soy can mess up your thyroid .. but i guess it would have to be huge amounts..

12-14-2005, 08:38 PM
No Desserts/Treats Day 1
No Chocolate Day 12
*No Soda Day 30 * Challenge Completed* Goal December 25th.

Hi everyone! I still have to make it through rehearsal before I can change my numbers.

12-14-2005, 08:43 PM
Sushi, if you can go to the library and borrow Strong Women Stay Slim, (author: Nelson?)there is a 20-min weight program for beginners. It's extremely easy, but is a good place to start, and will give you an idea what size weight to start with. The weights you have should be fine - the 4kg shouldn't be too much for bicep curls, and the 2kg MAY be a little high for triceps, maybe not. The one problem is you get stronger very quickly, and might need to get bigger weights before too long. But the ugly ones (no nice coloured foam covers, just clunky metal) are fairly cheap.

Ees, if you're losing weight on the cal count you're on, why change anything? I'm sure Red would okay a bonus few calories for PMS, especially if you set that as part of your challenge. I looked at what you're eating, and it seems pretty good to me. One caution about the 10 grain bread: multigrains are often NOT whole grain, but white flour with fun stuff added. Even if they are all whole grain, they have a lot more calories than plain old whole wheat (sunflower seeds etc). So it's wise to check the label. And I was ecstatic years ago at WW to discover that cottage cheese (which I hate) is also often fairly hi in calories. I'm pretty sure if you do some research (internet or library) you can find advice on craving-busting food for PMS and TOM. Higher protein should help a little.

I'll give a very abbreviated version of the diet I'm on: each day I'm supposed to eat 1200calories, which I don't have to "count" as calories. I'm allowed:

- 1 dairy (milk, yoghurt..., total equivalent of 170cal)
- 1 restricted veg (beets, carrots, peas, onions... equivalent about 40 cal)
- unlimited free veg (asparagus, lettuce, peppers,green beans... about 20cal)
- 4 fruit (apple, half banana,12 grapes, half mango... about 60 cal each)
- 3 bread etc (1 slice bread, half cup oatmeal, half cup rice, small potato... each serving about 70 cal) No carbs after evening meal.
- 7 meat/protein (1 oz meat, 1.5oz fish, 1 oz cheese, yoghurt, 1 egg, 2 oz tofu,one third cup beans...75 cal) Weigh meat after cooking, remove skin and bones. Recommended: 3 to 7 meals per week use legumes instead of meat).- 3 fats (one eighth avocado, itsp butter, 1 strip bacon, 2tsp PB, 1 tbsp salad dressing etc.... about 45cal each)

I'm supposed to drink 8 cups water, eat every 4 to 5 hours, NEVER SKIP A MEAL, avoid sugar, sweets, alcohol. If I really want a drink, one drink = 1 to 2 breads, depending on cal count.

The food lists are a lot longer, but this should give you an idea. And I've continued a daily FF DQ frozen fudge bar as a free treat. I'm allowed to count caffeine-free diet drinks as water.

And of course, exercise is recommended.

Curly, your diet is already so restricted I don't know what you can do, especially since I know you exercise lots. Maybe if you try a week writing EVERYTHING down and working out the calorie count to make sure there's nothing amiss? Maybe you're already doing that. Could it be you need to eat more, or to see-saw between higher and lower calorie counts? And maybe you just need to grit your teeth and keep on keeping on until you leap off your plateau and lose a lot all at once. Your 50 pounds off pretty much prove you know how to lose!

This is too long already, so I'll save anything else for later. Maybe another salvo in the Toxic Relatives war...

Marble, I love your new avatar.

12-14-2005, 09:29 PM
Hi everyone!
Looks like everyone is pretty far into their challenges, but I'd like to join in on the "fun" :) I am a major sugar/dessert addict and really want to get that under control. I also like cereal way too much and eat it all the time, justifying it as healthy since it's whole grain, but I know that much is too much! So here's my challenge...No sugar, desserts, or sugar substitutes for 21 days and only one serving of cereal each day. Ahhh. It scares me just writing it, but I know if I take it one day at a time it will be possible. I look forward to getting to know you all!

12-14-2005, 10:56 PM
yep carla... that was my thought as well...That perhaps i was over in calories..
thats y my challenge this time is to chart my food in fit day and track my calories everyday.. I also thought maybe i was eating more than i realized.. id say an average of 1350 per day . one day i was near 1400 .. i went and calculated my calories with the bmr formula and it says i should be around 1200... so maybe i need to drop them down a tad,,

i am not sure how estrogen & menapause figures into all this but perhaps thats an issue as well.. But like u say if i keep at it i will bust the plateau..

12-14-2005, 11:43 PM
Hiya all, what a chatty bunch. I'm on day 10 of my no bread challenge. I'm not even missing it now and missing even less the indigestion I was having.

Can't reply to you all. I'll just go over the few things I can remember.

eesa - I think you need more veges and less bread/ snacks. I'm not a PB fan but I do know it is high in most of the things you are trying to cut down. Substitute some of the fruit for veg as well - since these are higher in sugar. And are you drinking your water? Lots of it. This will stop the cravings for a short period of time. My favourite saying is - If you feel hungry, have a large glass of water, wait 20 mins and if you still feel hungry - eat. If you don't feel hungry then maybe the body was looking for re-hydration and not food. It is easy to mistake those urges.
As far as bread goes, the coarser the flour the better it is for you. Multigrain is indeed refined flour with birdseed in it. I like it, but I know it is not as good for me as wholemeal with seeds. Buy a breadmaker and make your own - uhuh maybe not as you then eat twice as much.

Curly, I think you need to mix it up a bit. 1200 calories are light for the amount of exercise you do. Menopause certainly plays havoc with weightloss so that could be part of the problem too.

Hi to IDGRL2005 and minaaa. :welcome2: Two brave souls to join in the mayhem and madness.

Red - are you sure this is still food poisoning? It is going on a long time. It's always difficult when some one new takes over a training class. Their schedules always look different and the methods always are. Stick with it and do as much practice by yourself (with the horse of course) to stay with the things already learnt. Look after yourself for goodness sake. Forget the challenge and concentrate on getting better. No more HK for you young lady - listen to Mother now!

Carla - with the undies all over the laundry!! Hello. I can't upstage the Christmas guests since I quite like all my family and friends. No gairy fodmothers or step mothers (loud or otherwise). Too far to go back now to glean the other words of wisdom from you.

Outa here on a fast camel. I have things to do, people to see and I guess I ought to do some work as well. That's what they pay me for.

12-15-2005, 01:32 AM
Wow 2 pages during one day. I cannot keep up, guys!
Welcome IDGRL2005 and minaaa, good luck. I know it is much harder to do a challenge over the holidays and I would like to congratulate you on your bravery!
Let me begin by saying hello to everyone, I missed you guys. I read everyday, but because I did not work out yesterday I felt embarassed to post. Until last minute when I fell asleep I kept on thinking about that work out and thinking if I shall get up and go do it, so not to feel so guilty. Well today is a new day. Though I am in a California, it is cold here as well... California type cold - low 50s, or slightly below. Since I did not report in yesterday here is the truth..
This is for Tuesday (yesterday):
For all 3 challenges I took a pause day.
as I said I waited to go to the gym, then got really upset, did not feel like drinking 3rd bottle of water and had 1/2 bannana, 1/2 avacado, 1/3 piece of bread and 1 slice of fat free smoked turkey after 7pm. I was so proud of myself for saying "no, thank you" to some chocolates offered by my manager during the day. She was proud of me as well, and even removed them out of site not to temp me. Yet after eating past 7 those items listed above, I got a small square piece of Ghirardelli Dark Chocolate. I hated myself, but today I am back on track.

Challenge A( 3 bottles of water): Level 2 (-1) - DAY 11 (Dec 14) finished
Challenge C( no food after 7pm): Level 3 (-1) - Day 11 (Dec 14) done.
Challenge B(daily gym - 1h, or some other major physical activity no less than 3 hours: Level 3 (-3) - 2 days accumulated from last week and for yesterday. I don't feel like going anywhere today. After that pasta, and yesterday's failuture, my 3 pound loss of the weekend went out the window. Gosh it takes so little to go wrong and I am back to square one literally. So tomorrow will be a restart of this challenge.

Again today I saw a bag full of toffe, chocolate, and fudge with and w/o nuts by the printer. I wanted it, but it was as if I was in slow motion each time. I came towards them, picked up my print outs and left. Several times in a row. Felt great....Yet, I do think of them and miss them somehow.

Finally also yesterday I got to expressing my guilt and such to my ex. We talked, or rather I cried and he listen trying to make me feel better. He offered me a challenge related to smoking. I am a light one, like just a few cigs a month, for some party if I can bum one from someone.... So he challenged me to quit it for good. The problem is that I kind of like it... But currently due to exercising cannot have any even occasionally as it later screws up my breathing for an entire week when I do cardio. I think I shall take challenge, he means a lot to me, and I know it would mean a lot in his eyes. He himself, with my help went down from reg Parlament to Light, then to reg. Capri (female smokes) to Capri Ultra Lights (I smoke these). Then he finally quit cold turkey for good 21 months ago... and not a single since then.

Oh, oh red...
I just wanted to clarify I was not planning to go down to 1200, I know I need to be around 1800, yet, I am examining what I eat to see if I could do some substitutes. One thing I'd like to do, is to show the 2 types of breads I like and see what you guys think. So far my ratio is low for protein and high either in fats or carbs. Today was the first day I was able to avoid it. How? I replaced rice, potato, pasta, whatever non meat during lunch and dinner. I think I will have to choose either have meat or one of the afformentioned items. Also refined sugar and oil. I use some kind of reduced sweetner, non brand called White Satin. Looks and tastes like sugar. What do you guys use? May be honey in tea is better? I don't drink coffee or carbonated drinks, well very rarely, like may be like 10 times a month. And oil? what do you guys cook on. I use very little of it, but that amount is exactly what tips the scale of my fat to carb to protein proportions. Normally when I make fish or chicken, I put small teaspoon on a large skillet, where I make 3 portions. Brown onion in it and then put chicken breast skinless, fat cut off allover. Once chicken turns white, I add 1/8 of cup of water and then simmer to make sure it is cooked through. How can I go down in oil? (currently 1 tbs, is 120 cals, with 14 grams of fat, into 3 is still 5 grams each time.)

Please forgive me for a long post.
Good luck and have a happy end of the week....
For those sick, feel better.

12-15-2005, 02:53 AM
Hiya Redballoon! I am still here, just "off the wagon" at the moment - Exams got the better of me and I am just trying to get through them without focusing on much of anything except *not* shoving my entire head into a tub of haagen dazs or slurping down a bowl of spaghetti and meatballs with extra cheese as if I were a hungry doberman. I am hanging in there and will be back on the 21 day challenge wagon as soon as my head stops spinning! Thanks for asking, though!

Keep on Truckin!
Erin :carrot:

12-15-2005, 03:35 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 2
No Chocolate Day 13
*No Soda Day 31 * Challenge Completed* Goal December 25th.

Well today I made it through, two staff potlucks, TOM starting, and rehearsal with all my challenges firmly in place! I do need to get back on my ab challenge, but not until after this weekend is over!

12-15-2005, 06:00 AM
It's been a bit of a day in one way or another. Day 10 is now over. I think the next challenge is going to be something to do with water. I am definitely not drinking enough. Naughty me!

Just a plea to all of you out there who are driving - please take it easy and carefully. There are so many things that can and do go wrong in a split second. Tonight I witnessed an accident in which a man was killed. The nightmare will live with me for quite a while. So whatever you do, just take that little bit of extra time to look both ways if you are crossing the road, or check that there really is nothing coming or that you have the room to make that turn.

Be careful out there.

12-15-2005, 08:02 AM
Ok, night here. Just catching up as I haven't really decided on a challenge yet. Well, I have, but I will probably start tomorrow. I got a ride in this afternoon, hugged my horse :love: !! Yippee!! It makes everything feel sooo much better.

Heh, did you see the full moon tonight? Beautiful!!

Shad -- Oh, Shad! I'm so sorry you witnessed a fatal accident. How awful! Thank God, I never was right there at the time of an accident but I have come on them very soon after and they stayed with me for a long time, so much so that I didn't want to walk past the place. Hope you feel better soon.

stage -- :cp: You probably should tell us a little about what you're doing. You mention rehearsals and all but I haven't a clue what it is you're rehearsing! :shrug:

chai -- Glad to hear from you and glad to hear you'll be joining us soon again. "Head into a tub of haagen dazs" :lol3: Don't you dare!!! :nono:

CBETA -- Ok, good, glad to hear you're not thinking of starving yourself! Good for you on that chocolate save!! :bravo: And come on, one square is NOTHING to hate yourself about. I don't want to hear you hating yourself about anything, you hear?!?! Oh, and love the descriptive episode!

"...Again today I saw a bag full of toffee, chocolate, and fudge with and w/o nuts by the printer. I wanted it, but it was as if I was in slow motion each time. I came towards them, picked up my printouts and left. Several times in a row..."

I was getting chills! :eek: Sounds like the next from Stephen King!! :rofl:

Smoking is a filthy habit. Makes your teeth brown, your breath stink, will give you lines around your mouth and dry your skin! Quit! I did. It's been about 15 years I think. Went cold turkey AFTER many attempts to quit. Finally it stuck.

Heh, gotta get to bed. I'll try to answer your other questions later on food. Ask me again if I forget, ok?

curly -- We gotta blast that plateau!! :mad:

ID -- :welcome3: There is no "pretty far into the challenges" really, so don't worry. People often have to restart and new people start all the time or regulars add new challenges, making them doubles and triples! Actually I guess I am going to restart my ab challenge instead of saying I'm starting a new one. The other way is really a copout. Yours sounds like a great challenge, a tough one, I take it you'll make it a Level 3, right? Good luck!

12-15-2005, 09:30 AM
Day 4 Pilates/Lifting Challenge - COMPLETE! (3 pause days left!)

That's right, I tried to snuggle in close to my sleepy boyfriend, but he was all *grumble, mumble* "trying to sleep, arg..." so I got up and did my pilates. Good thing, too, eh?

Yo reggelt, Marble! I studied a semester in Budapest (the Buda side) at an honors kollegium. It was for students outside of the city, and most of them would go home on the weekends. It meant that I would get to go home with them to their (non-english speaking) families for a few days and get absolutely taken care of. By the time I left, I could speak magyar well enough to get pretty much whatever I needed but couldn't really talk about emotions (and I wasn't so good at talking about the future...) but now most of the hungarian is lost except for things that I'd never say in polite company (Huncut vagyok! <-- I am naughty!) I did a little travelling around Europe before I came back home (to the states) and Budapest remains my favorite city in the world. It was 'depressing' sometimes, I guess, but with time it seemed so much more -real- and -honest- and when I was finally able to make some friends (there didn't seem to exist the 'aquaintances' relationship like here), there was no limit to how close and warm and loving it was. I think about it all the time. I miss the families asking if I was too cold or too hungry. I miss the villamos. I miss pogatcsa.... *sigh*

Ees - I can only wish you luck, as I have no advice, really. But my thought is that if you are SHAKING due to food problems, forget the %^$#*ing challange and eat a small portion of something good for you.

Stagemom- TWO potlucks?! You must have a will of steel. I have one next week and I feel like I'm already overeating...

IDGRL - Welcome and good luck!! What level is your challange? Be sure to set that, and then you can take advantage of pause days!

Shad - Hooray for no indigestion and thanks for the driving tips... it's important to be alert now more than ever.

CBETA - No hating yourself! Focus on the good things you're doing, and you are doing a lot!

Ok, that's all for now. Back to work.

12-15-2005, 10:57 AM
Hi everyone! Day three went well. I have been sticking right under 1500 calories every day this week. Maybe I need to go a little lower than that to lose this last bit of weight.

I am in a bit of a funk :( - I know I have lost weight, my smaller-sized clothes are starting to fit again - but I am feeling chubby/flabby. I think part of it is the cold weather? I really need to move to Southern Florida, or maybe Arizona or the Las Vegas area. I hate winter so much! :mad: I don't know, I just know that I feel frustrated and unhappy with my life, my job, my lack of friends. I feel as if everything I do is for naught. Then, just to add another irritant, UPS comes to the door this morning with a junk basket from Harry & David's that my SIL and her family sent us. Filled with cookies, chocolate, popcorn, etc. So not only do I have to avoid all the yummy things in the stupid basket, we have to reciprocate with a gift that I hadn't planned in our budget.

Enough about my problems - I hope everyone is doing okay.

Shad, I can't even imagine how horrible that must have been for you. I hope you will be alright. :hug:

AppleBlossom - happy birthday to your daughter! 6 years old, I bet she is adorable!

Eesabella - you are not *failing* your challenge if you have to start over, you are just starting over. Every day that you try, you are doing something positive for yourself. (Yes, there is some "physician, heal thyself" that could be pointed directly at my above rant, but we are cheering up eesa, not me:D )

Curly - I hope your tummy feels better today. My stomach was very upset last Friday and I didn't want to do anything at all.

12-15-2005, 11:02 AM
Fish - Is the basket opened yet? Why don't you just pack it up and send it out, and then call up and marvel that you both picked out the -exact same- thing to send each other for the holidays! *grin* Two birds with one stone, eh? You don't have to eat it -or- buy it... you can pay only for shipping.

12-15-2005, 11:03 AM
What I'm doing- Community theater, Beauty and the Beast, opening night is Friday. Tonight is our last dress rehearsal. My kids and I have done community theater for the last 4 years and it is so much fun. It makes for a super hectic time during opening week though.

12-15-2005, 12:27 PM
hey Fish>>> RE-GIFT lol

12-15-2005, 12:34 PM
HI all. Yes, mine is definitely a level 3. Today is the first official day. I just have to keep telling myself "just for today" but 21 times :) I'm hoping by the end the cravings for sugar/sweets have gone down.

12-15-2005, 01:03 PM
Curly and Phys Dom - great idea :D However, I have a feeling that DH has already busted into that bad boy.

12-15-2005, 01:09 PM
Well, crap. There's always next year, right? *wink*

12-15-2005, 02:34 PM
Hello group!

Took me awhile to read the postings....I will refrain from babbling away today...

Day #9!:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot:

18 mins. of wts/ cardio....I didn't WANT to, but then I couldn't post, so I did and am glad I pushed myself.

Red, thanks for telling me NOT to boil, I guess I will add at the end. sorry I didn't realize you were not a carnivore. But while you are on the mend, how about making up a nice large batch of vegetable soup/stock and freezing portions for later use?

I was glad to hear that Mez is OK physically and send her my very best {{{vibes}}}:goodvibes :goodvibes for an end to her termoil

Thanks for all the GI suggestions...I was considering abdominal dynamite. I seem to be losing about 2/10s of a lb. per day but my belly area is puffy...I give new meaning to the term "Full of SH****), however, my pant-legs are roomier and my rings are loose. I still see a flabby buttisimo, but that's what I get for laying on it for 6 weeks....perhaps I have *Glutteous-Pancake Syndrome*?

I guess I should jump on the wagon with a foody type challenge, but I'm not overeating anything unless you count berries/kiwis and that seems rather stupid. There are tons of different fatty foods all over my building, but I'm able to just pick one cookie, or one small choc. pretzel and that's enough. Last night i had a chicken burger with onion/pepper/mushroom and tomato, then one small lemon puff girlscout cookie. A glass of merlot to wash down my Aleve.

OH and BTW, ALEVE can cause constipation AH-HAH!:shrug: :?:

BBL---oh Carla, does your SM smoke DuMaurier? or Players? (back in the good old days, I'd buy a carton of dumaurier duty-free, :devil:

12-15-2005, 07:23 PM
day 11>>>> total calories = 1,182

12-15-2005, 07:50 PM
Wow! I made it yesterday! Whee Hew! AND halfway through dinner I got full - a bit uncomfortably full :shocksn: so I saved the rest of my meal for later. I'm happy!! But I'm down to 30 calories left for today. And I usually have a lot of snacks at night - I'm not into the not eating before bed rule. I read that people burn approximately 500 calories in their sleep... I guess that means if you don't eat much at bed, you can burn off some fat? Wheeeel... I think my fat nudges me awake when that starts to happen :lol:

I'm a-gonna try not to ruin the challenge tonight! I think since some of this must be PMS-type of emotional eating, I'll try to keep busy and drink lots of water. If I don't make it - I'm going to do the challenge over plus up to 200 cals more just before my period.

Alt and Phys - I have the same problem! I want to comment/support... but sometimes it takes some effort - especially since this thread is so busy!! :spin: It's nice to know that there is no need to feel guilty - because I appreciate both of you as equally as I appreciate those who write specifically to me, so I would assume others feel the same 'bout me when I miss writing to them! And Phys forget the %^$#*ing challange and eat a small portion of something good for you. :rofl: Thank you! You are so right... not to worry though, I'm no fool - no bit of pride is worth shaking and biting my boyfriend's head off. If I fail the challenge, I still made it 11? 12 days! That's pretty cool. The goal is to make a habit permanent! Not be able to say, "I made it 21 days" - though I really do want to do that!!

Red - on that whole grain bread. I think I may have tried a kind like that before! My sister bought this dense, moist, all-grain (it just looked like mooshed grains) bread-stuff at Whole Foods once. I liked it - like you said, not what I'd call bread exactly, but it's good. Maybe I'll get that instead of my half-fake, half grainy "whole grain" bread next time :p Thank you and everyone else who gave me so much advice!! :hug: I really appreciate it!! You know, I got to thinking I knew it all when it came to nutrition :snooty: (not that I was doing it all nutritionally, just that I knew what I should do). Turns out I have plenty to learn!

IDGRL - I admire you for going for a no sugar substitutes challenge!! You may just inspire me to give that a shot! :goodluck:

Joy - I am actually not going for a low carb diet, only to not eat refined sugar. I have nothing against foods with a "high" sugar content. I put that in quotes because it's relative... the amount of sugar in an orange or potato is MUCH lower than a candy bar, and not really comparable to me. When I eat too much refined sugar - particularly over the course of a few days, I tend to have more cravings for it, get moody, etc... I experimented with eating lower sugar fruits, veggies, grains, etc... and it turns out the sugar content in most foods don't effect my general health!! And YAY to that because I'm terrible at restricting myself.

One question about whole grain breads - is whole wheat flour okay? What about semolina? People tell me that white flour is like eating refined sugar... does the same go for other flours? If not, than I would assume whole grain bread made with wheat flour isn't too bad (although not as nutritious as the real stuff)???

Fish - is your period coming? Not only do you retain water just before your period, but when your estrogen and progesterone levels drop, so does your confidence. I've read that taking a warm shower, shopping and receiving a back massage are all non-food related things that you can do to get your happy-juice back!

Okay this post is yet another WAY long one! Better stop now :p


12-15-2005, 08:11 PM
This thread "saved" me today! As if the goodies from the potlucks were not bad enough yesterday, today the staff room table was covered with about a million different yummy looking cookies. I almost had myself convinced that I could have just one, when I realized I would have to take a pause day on both of my challenges since the cookie I wanted had chocolate frosting on. I'm so glad now that I made it out of the staff room without eating a cookie! Thank you to you all for being here!!!!!

12-15-2005, 08:35 PM
YAY! So glad to hear that you passed on the cookie Stage - and that this thread is working for you!!

12-15-2005, 09:51 PM
ees -- Yes, that sounds like Vollkorn Brot, what your sister got you..squished grains...yes! :lol: White flour IS wheat flour, it has just been refined. Whole wheat means that the entire grain, including the husk and all, has been ground. That's where a lot of the vitamins and fiber is. Like with rice, they first whisk off the outer parts and then use that (in wheat grain case they grind it up). A lot of people have wheat allergies, thus the interest in nonwheat grains. Also, other grains, such as rye, don't shoot your insulin levels up (lower G1 index), so people like them. Usually if you read labels you will see that whole wheat is only part of the whole, i.e. they're using refined wheat flour along with the whole stuff. Anything that takes your body longer to digest, anything that doesn't get into your bloodstream too quickly helps dieting as it keeps you full and doesn't send blood sugar levels shooting around like crazy.

Here's a link to what the German bread looks like when imported.

Here's some other things that may be of interest.

12-16-2005, 12:34 AM
Day 1 completed--no sugar/desserts, only: one serving of cereal, one tablespoon of peanut butter

Apple Blossom
12-16-2005, 01:22 AM
STILL Day 13 SWN and Day 12 WALK. Took my last pause day for both. Too busy to walk and forgot the SWN stuff. DH will be home tonight, so I don' t think I'll have any trouble finding time to walk for the next week. Should finish right on time for X-mas!!!
:wave:Hello everyone!

12-16-2005, 03:23 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 3
No Chocolate Day 14
*No Soda Day 32 * Challenge Completed* Goal December 25th.

12-16-2005, 04:51 AM
This 21 day deal sounds like a great deal. I mean really if you can make it 21 days why go back right. Mind if I join in. One of my biggest probs is drinking cokes. Probably drink 400-500 calories a day of Dr. Pepper. Pretty smart huh? Is it okay to start with just limiting intake to one Dr. Pepper per day. I think that sounds good. So that is my plan. Thanks for the idea.

12-16-2005, 07:06 AM
Well, here I am again... I keep losing track of you guys as the thread moves so quickly. I have some thinking to do. I am not sure that this 21 day thing is the best thing for me as I keep failing.
: ( I guess I'm going through the blues here....
I am trying the best I can but I keep losing my momentum.
Maybe I need to try a very easy 21 day thing, but it hardly seems worth doing if I make it too easy.
Do I challange myself to just get out of bed each day and go through my day? : ) Hmmm.
I'm not starting day 1 of anything today, I am here becuase I have been doing this 21 day thing off and one and feel I want to be part of things, yet I am not a "winner" in any way.
Maybe I just need Red to come in here and use her BAT on me.... remember that Red?

12-16-2005, 07:13 AM
Hello Derry! :wave: Where have you been?! :shrug: I DO remember the bat but I never used it. That was a jolly thing, right?

No, I am much too much of a pacifist for bats and things although people are always thinking I am so scary. I really don't understand where this image comes from. I think it's just because I REALLY, REALLY know how to lay down the line! :lol3:

Anyhow, if you keep failing at the challenge then it sounds like you need it. How can it be too easy if you keep failing at it? Huh?!?! ;)

Look, I'm starting up two things today again (just hadn't felt like posting yet but today, Dec. 16 was my Day 1) and they seem easy and are really but I know (because if I don't do a challenge I don't do them consistently) that I need the challenge to make them habits.

I think you need to do something that you want to be a habit, if only for three weeks. Ok? Think of something. My challenge is going to be two-part (but NOT separate). I am reducing my coffee intake to just my morning dose. No more coffee the rest of the day. I can have ONE mug of tea at another time but NO coffee. The other part is to do my ab work every day, 10 sets of 20 reps. I was up to Day 11 on that until I got derailed with food poisoning in HK.

Okay, Linda? Got your thinking cap on?!?! :idea: And look, don't think so much about motivation and all that. Half the time the last thing I feel like doing is whatever thing it is for my challenge. But I do it anyhow and then I just come in here to chat and moan and whine and rant or whatever...anything but the challenge...but I do the challenge...because those are the rules and it's like the entrance fee to all the other stuff I really want to do here (the moan, whine part). So, why don't you do the same. Take your cue from me and carla and Shad (hey guys, it's for a good cause!) and just come in here to UNLOAD! :rofl: We'll sop it up and if we can't handle it all...well, we'll just ignore you..and talk about what day of our challenge we're on, ok? :high:

12-16-2005, 09:06 AM
Hello Everyone! Well!! I did it! Stayed under 1800 again! Everyone proud of me?! :p I'm really bad at keeping up with how many days it's been - lol I'm going to end up tacking on days by accident! Oh well, the more to make a habit of this.

So I think yesterday was day 11! My period should be here in the next three days, and it seems to have gotten a little better over the last two days (my blood sugar), so I may make it! :dance: :hat: :dance:

Linda! I am not a "winner" in any way.. You are SO a winner! I'm going to quote myself talking to CBETA a bit about getting back on the horse and how winner-like that is. CBETA - You were telling Linda Oh! Look at that :p it looks like you were congratulating CBETA on her determination to keep trying. Sowy, just had to point that out! that you don't deserve a pat on the back because you have tried to start your diet over and over again. I believe that you absolutely deserve a pat on the back for your determination! I quit smoking - I tried to quit soooo many times over the year before I actually quit. I tried to quit 3 times I believe it was in the same month that I actually did! A website I went to said that the more times you try to quit, the more likely you are to succeed in the end. With each attempt you gain more knowledge about how to quit... Oprah quoted someone else on a recent show, "Power is strength over time." You try to diet and fail, you use your strength to try again and again and again. As Oprah said, "One day you wake up, and you are powerful!" You are probably gaining something EVERY time you try a challenge Linda!! Even (and maybe even more so) when you don't make it... because I believe you gain more character picking yourself back up when you fall, than when you walk without tripping!

Believe me! I know it's rough not doing would you set out to do. Each time I "failed" at quitting smoking, I felt ashamed... embarassed to show my face around people who knew I was trying. But you know what? Each time I tried again I felt more and more proud of myself and I started to feel less ashamed to try again! So KEEP AT IT! Hold your head high for not completely shying from the thread! And look back and see if you have gained anything yet from all of the effort you have put into trying!

Red - you are terrifying :lol3: j/k. Thanks for the links on whole grains!! I really appreciate it! So what would you do for flour? If you want to bake? Do you used different recipes or something?!

Stage - I just wanted to say :dancer: :carrot: WAY TO GO!! :carrot: :cp: 32 days of no soda!! It's so nice to see that the challenge is not just something to get out of the way for you, you really want it to be a change! What an inspiration!!

IDGRL2005 - congrats on day 1!! I dunno what kind of peanutbutter you eat - I just wanted to recommend trying sugar free kind (it's just ground peanuts - roasted or not)... you can get it at health stores and some other stores. The "raw" kind is a bit yucky, but the other kinds are just as good or better than the sugared kind! Just a recommendation - the less refined sugar you eat, the easier it is to stay away from because you'll have less cravings.

Okay!! Going to visit a friend and exchange gifts today. Speaking of staying away from sweets :crossed: this will be rough. I swear I am living through other people with my gifts this year. I bought this friend and another a raspberry tea drink mix and chocolate florentine cookies... and for my dad and boyfriend's parents a HUGE box of nastalga - it's $30 - probably 3 pounds worth of candy from the 1950s. YUM! :devil: <- made me do it, I think I did it so I can excuse myself and have some.


12-16-2005, 09:36 AM
Day 14 completed, both challenges.

Just a quickie for now, nasty undeserved headache here. :headache:

Ees, I don't know about the others, but I have nothing against WHEAT flour. The point I intended to make was that you might want to avoid WHITE flour. Whole wheat flour is fine unless you have a wheat intolerance. So you don't actually have to subject yourself to yummy lunches of peanut butter on vollkorn bread! Just look at the ingredients, and make sure it's 100% whole grains, only whole wheat or whatever. Multigrain breads CAN be fine, although often a little higher in cals, you just need to check the ingredients list to make sure they're not just wonderbread with birdseed. (And there is the advantage that all that birdseed does provide roughage. :lol: )And I'm pretty sure unground flaxseed just goes right thru you, so no extra cals there. Anyway, I buy 100% stone-ground whole wheat sliced bread, and occasionally a multigrain 100% whole wheat, and they are yummy and easy to find.

12-16-2005, 10:23 AM
Good morning all!
ees- You are right about the less sweets less cravings! I noticed that even after my first day because usually something sweet (even what I thought was my perfect innocent little sugar free hot cocoa) ended up triggering binges. I will definitely look into the sugar free peanut butter. Well I had my cereal and peanut butter dose this morning so I'm done with my "treat" for the day and looking forward to facing Day 2 with no sugar/desserts/SF stuff! I know you guys can all succeed today!!!

12-16-2005, 10:46 AM
Pilates/lifting Day 5 NOT YET completed (3 pause days left), b/c I plan on doing 1-hour pilates when I get home from work instead of teh 20 minutes this morning (the 20 minutes doesn't really give me a burn at all anymore... so I think 1 hour after work will be a nice pick-up.)

Hooray for talking about bread!

12-16-2005, 10:50 AM
Derry: the challenege is not so much about making the 21 days as it is making it thru the days that u have completed... don't look at it as failing... look at what a great job u are doing to make it thru the amount of dyas that you have made it... (umm did that make sense) OK in simple terms

making and starting the challenge (a hard one) is better than doing nothing or just picking an easy challenge that you know you can make it thru??

12-16-2005, 10:52 AM
Good morning! I squeaked in just under 1500 calories yesterday, and spent 38 minutes at the gym (17 of weights, 21 of running (2 miles)).

I am in a better mood today. The sun is out, and it is a little warmer out than it has been. While I was on the treadmill yesterday I kept telling myself "23 more days, 23 more days" (until my cruise). Then I can be in warm, sunny weather for a whole week:sunny: :sunny: I cannot wait!

Eesabella - it is actually the week after my period. I know all the funky hormones and stuff (hey, i'm a lawyer, not a scientist) will affect my mood. Poor hubby has to put up with it all the time. I think yesterday was just a bad day though. I get really gloomy and sad sometimes. Warm baths definitely help! Shopping helps too, but if I go to the mall right now with all the crazy christmas shoppers, I will probably end up poking someone in the eye:devil:

Stage Mom - that is fantastic that you passed up the cookies! Knowing that you have to "waste" a pause day really helps stay on track, doesn't it!

12-16-2005, 12:03 PM
Hello all :wave: :wave:

I'm still here! Been crazy busy :dizzy:

I'm on day 12 of my no soda challenge!! :carrot: :dancer: :cb:

I rode my bike on my trainer on wednesday, I really liked it but my tail bone didn't. OUCH! I even put a gel seat cover on the the seat. I'll have to get used to it.

Good luck to all!

And Merry Christmas! :ginger: :mrsclaus: :tree: :coolsnow: :hohoho: :snowglo: :gift2:

Tina :)

Apple Blossom
12-16-2005, 01:16 PM
Day 14 SWN and Day 13 WALK
My cat died yesterday.:( I don't know why. She wasn't sick. I found her under the bed. The only thing I can think of is that since she was a kitten she has had a heart arrythmia and maybe that finally did her in. She was 13 yrs old. :(

12-16-2005, 01:18 PM
Swimming, your tailbone will toughen up in time, but not until you've suffered a lot. :lol:

Curly, I'm still looking for a plateau-breaker for you, although I notice the scale has moved a little for you. Have you tried the Fat Flush Diet? You do it for two weeks, and there's a lot of mumbo-jumbo about specific supplements and no pepper and c**p like that, but it's basically lo-cal and fairly rigid, and you will lose weight over the 2 week process. And you won't starve, although you may be bored half to death. And it's no good if you don't like cranberry juice (NOT cranberry cocktail) and lemons... If you can't buy or borrow the book, let me know and I'll email you the basic daily diet I followed. But it's too strict for Christmas, I think, maybe a good New Year's start.

And for Marble, who's all bunged up, this week's issue of the awful supermarket rag Womans' World has a 3-day fruit fast that would probably get something going. Or kill you. :lol3:

Red, I'm not ignoring you - there are so many posts that require my pompous, know-it-all answers, I just don't have time for the usual socializing. :rofl: And I still have that dratted headache - maybe I'm not eating enough...

I'll try to post better tonight. Right now I really should get out since the snow has stopped and before the shopping hordes get off work.

12-16-2005, 01:45 PM
Apple Blossom - I am so sorry about your kitty.:hug: I think it is even worse when you don't have any warning that they are sick.

We had to put my (12 year old) kitty to sleep right before christmas about 5 years ago and I still get sad about it. :cry: I am sending you warm thoughts, and I hope you are okay.

12-16-2005, 01:59 PM
Apple>> sending hugs.. its so hard to lose a family member...

12-16-2005, 02:33 PM
Apple, so sorry to hear about the puss cat. It is so hard to lose a much loved family member. Thinking of you.

I've lost what day I am up to. I think today is 12. I'll go back later and look but I'll get this post done if it kills me before the thunder and lightning returns as it will before too long. Our weather patterns are a bit weird this year.

Poor Carla - she has a big horrible headache. Could this be because you ARE ignoring Red??

Swimming - that's the reason I hate the bike with a passion. None of the seats on any of the variety of bikes fit this butt.

Red, I don't find you terrifying at all - after all I have spoken to you by phone and seen your pic on your biography and you seem to have all the usual accoutrements in all the usual places. Pacificist - well maybe!!!!! Me, I like the feeling of swinging that piece of 4 x 2 with the nails in the end to get the point across. Some folk you literally have to punch the information into! Okay, so I am a bit of a taniwha (dragon, witch, monster) but I am loveable. By all means use my name to emphasise the point.

:welcome: to Trixie o whose post seems to have got lost in there and who has joined up on a NO SODA thing as well.

Right time to go and get up my ISP who insisted on me doing a toolbar update which now very annoyingly keeps insisting my details are wrong. Here goes with yet another whingeing e-mail which will not get properly answered and which will be followed by yet another survey to find out how well the problem got solved followed by ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BEING DONE ABOUT IT. Bah Humbug. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Better go get some breakfast, the dragon's blood pressure appears to be rising.

12-16-2005, 04:15 PM
DH just called - it seems I don't have to worry about the contents of the evil gift basket anymore - our stupid head dog pulled it off the kitchen counter and ate ALL OF IT while DH was outside checking the mail and chatting with the neighbor. So, Sammy is now at the vet's office, so that they can induce vomiting so that he doesn't die from all the stupid chocolate and cookies he wolfed down in 5 freaking minutes. I can't decide if I am angry because he is a BAD DOG or scared that this is going to make him really sick.

12-16-2005, 04:34 PM
Apple, my condolences on your kittie, it must have been a terrible shock. I hope you can take comfort in knowing she probably just went to sleep all cozy and comfy and somehow didn't wake up. So now she's purring away in peace up in the big cathouse in the sky, while you come to tems with the loss. Here's some :hug::hug::hug: - our supportive arms around you.

12-16-2005, 05:23 PM
Morning, all. I am NOT in a good mood this morning as I have to go in to work early. They have arbitrarily and without warning moved the deadlines up. It is so ridiculous.
Must try to get my crunches in today and NOT forget them. Yesterday I ate chocolate and it wasn't until I was lying there this morning (things dawn on me at the crack of dawn) that probably the reason I ate the chocolate even though I usually am unmoved by the stuff, was because my body was wanting the caffeine. How sly of it?! Well, it's not going to get it today! :nono:

Apple -- I am SO sorry to hear about your cat. :cry: What a horrible shock that must have been for you, to find her under the bed like that. I am so sorry, really, because I know how empty it feels when you lose a loved furry one. Like carla says, take comfort in the fact that she is surely at peace and watching over you. :hug:

Fish -- And, what is this with your silly dog?! It sounds like he knew your dilemma and was helping you out. I do hope he is ok. I don't think it'll be a problem at all, after all, it wasn't poison he ate and if they can induce vomiting, which they can, he'll be ok. The vomiting will probably take more out of him than the food would. How did he get through the wrappers, I wonder? Or was everything open and loose? Does your dog have a real sweet tooth? It sure sounds like it.

Shad -- Hi there. thanks for giving carla a kick. I am feeling very neglected. You know, I actually wished I DID like beating up on something. It would be a great release. As it is, I have no release really other than crying and weight training and that I don't want to do anymore because I am trying to get rid of all this muscle. It's strange but swinging things around just depresses me. I guess I am just a very inner kind of person. Sigh. The only thing that really makes me feel better is being with animals, especially the horse and the dogs. Cats actually don't do that much for me, though I have three of them. I think cats are actually MORE like me and that's why they don't give me that much. But, I DO love them. Sigh again. Poor Apple. Good going on sticking with your challenge. Today is my Day 2. I WILL get through it.

swimming -- You'll have to look into getting another saddle for your bike. I don't think it's your tailbone hurting. That would be next to impossible unless you are doing some pretty strange sitting! There are all sorts of good saddles for women out there. It's not so much the size of the posterior, it's the width of the pelvis. A women's pelvis is wide and the seat bones are far apart, thus making most bike seats very uncomfortable. They are totally NOT made for women...figures. Check out this place for bike saddles made for women by women. The Liberator is great. You see the width of it? Yet, these are saddles made for women who race and so. It's not about fat. It's the bone structure.

Phys -- "Hooray for talking about bread" ?!?!??! I don't get it. Are you really into bread or something? :lol:

ID -- Definitely get sugarfree peanut butter. I would eat nothing else. And when I'm doing no sugar challenges I stay away from all artificial sweeteners too. They're bad stuff as it is and just make it harder to train your palate OFF the sickening sweet of refined sugar.

carla -- I feel totally ignored. :( Birdseed? Just what ARE you eating?

ees -- Your post rather confused me. All those quotes. I need things very simple, especially these days.... ;) But I do know you were giving derry a great pep talk. Thank you!! Yes, as carla says, there is nothing wrong with wheat unless you have an allergy. Normally, I just try to stay away from refined flour. And I never bake. If I did I would try to use wholewheat flour I suppose or any other flour, buckwheat, rye. I'm glad to hear you're beating the preperiod cravings. :cp:

trixie -- :welcome: Excellent! Get that soda out of your life!! :spin: So glad the challenge is helping you. What a save that was!!!! :eek:

stage -- :bravo:

marb -- How are you? Moving right along? Great on Day 9! In your post to carla you mentioned SM. What does that stand for? I tell you, all these acs really get to me. I just heard from mez again, so, yes, leave it to say, that "physically" she is ok... I will send her your warm wishes.

Well, gotta go. Hello to anyone I missed. Wish me well, ok? I need it.


12-16-2005, 07:18 PM
day 12>>>1142 calories

12-16-2005, 07:53 PM
Flour - for baking - hmmmm.

Well there is the refined stuff we all know and which gives the best results to sweet biscuits, cakes etc. But there are others. Now these are some that we can get around here - they make a slightly heavier style products but are perfectly fine for breads, muffins etc.

Wholemeal with husks,
Stoneground (also wholemeal type flour)
Maize/ corn flour - not the nasty white cornflour stuff this is bright yellow and somewhat similar to polenta.
Rice flour (makes a fairly plasticy type of bread - but that might be my cooking)
Spelt. (An old style/ type of wheat which is rich and heavy, tastes nutty and has lots of 'bits' in it.)
Semolina flour.

Think that is about it. Want to bake? You don't have to go with the norm. Strive to be better than the norm!!!! Sorry getting on my :soap: again.

Gotta go.

12-16-2005, 10:23 PM
Day 14 done, both challenges. In spite of going to a craft fair with lots and lots of samples full of chocolatey goodness. (If they had been offering samples of wine, I would have been sunk. :lol: )

Red, I must say I'm getting a little worried about you - it seems you've been sick/blue/fed up for too long. So now I'll devote ALL my attention to you until you beg for mercy and plead to be ignored again.
Why do you want to get rid of your muscles? :?: I'm confused! Surely you need lots of physical strength for the riding? Or do you really want to lose bulk but develop longer, leaner muscles? Maybe pilates and yoga - not that I can do either with my ultra-stiff joints.
Marble's "SM" was a reference to my toxic stepmother. We were competing to see who had the worst relative(s). She won on quantity (terrible ex-husband, inconsiderate daughter), but I won on quality... In fact, that's the subject of today's rant, which I'm cleverly slipping into my Red-focused post. I called the horrid SM today (she's old and lonely). When I said no need to have sweets on hand at Xmas, I'm trying to lose weight, the response was all "Haven't you lost that yet?" (Imagine appalled, disgusted, shocked tone of voice.) And when I said I had 66 lbs to lose, and had already lost 23, no praise or kind words or congrats. Just "I've lost 5 pounds. But then I don't eat... :blah::blah: Me me me :blah::blah: me me me..." :bomb: Petty complaint, I know, but I've spent the 30 years since my father died being nice to a woman who has almost always found a way to make me feel bad - the same woman who had my brother and me sent off to boarding school in a foreign language just slightly over a year after our mother died suddenly. All out of some misplaced sense of loyalty. And now she's too old and lonely to desert (not many people like her, and the few who did are falling like heavily-smoking flies). End of rant. It's just a pain because I was feeling so good about finally getting the weight control on the right track. And sad :( that I should be this bothered by these things at my age. :shrug:
But we were talking about you, Red. Sorry about the digression. :sorry: What's with the early starts at work? Don't they know you've been sick? Maybe the early start means you'll finish early enough to spend extra time with your horse - she must have missed you while you were away and then sick. Speaking of horses, does yours get extra carrots :carrot: :carrot: and apples for Christmas? (Or, more likely, she gets some every time you see her.)

Gotta go. :wave: I'll try to post better and cheerier tomorrow. Meanwhile Zen is getting restless waiting for his bedtime snack. I swear he eats more than me...

12-16-2005, 11:56 PM
And by the way, Red, don't think the irony is lost on me: I spent half of a post supposedly devoted to you ranting about MY problems with someone ELSE who's as self-centred as I was being... Time for another session with the shrink. ;)

12-17-2005, 02:04 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 4
No Chocolate Day 15
*No Soda Day 33 * Challenge Completed* Goal December 25th.

Opening night is over, now I must get to bed!

Sushi Penguin
12-17-2005, 02:55 AM
Before anyone wonders where I've disappeared -- just haven't had time to post. One day left on crunches challenge after I took a pause day on Friday because of being too tired to do them. Haven't started a new challenge yet, but probably will today or tomorrow. :)

12-17-2005, 02:02 PM
Hey I'm Back! lol I haven't posted on 3FC in such a long time. I missed doing 21 day challenges..lthey really help to motivate me and I definatley need some motivating right about now lol I"m 145 lbs , 15 lbs away from my goal :) I am going to make my challenge to :
a.) stay witin my points everyday, no bonus points (I've been using those a lot latley)
b.) exercise at least an hour, 3x a week, but do my push ups and sit ups everyday
c.) not eat after 7:00 pm ( my cravings usually start at about 8 lol)
d.) only drink water, flavored water no soda

I am going to make this a level 1 challenge (

Sushi Penguin
12-17-2005, 06:57 PM
Alriiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... Crunches challenge - Day 21 done!!! :cb: :cb: :cb:

12-17-2005, 07:05 PM
Quick post! I went off my challenge yesterday!! Not because I was hungry either - my friend had some yummy food at her house :(. Today is Day 1 1800 and under - up to 200 calories more if needed before my period!

More later - haven't had a chance to catch up on the reading here!

12-17-2005, 07:10 PM
Morning, all. I am proud to say I completed Day 2 of my WACKO challenge. This is what I am deeming my caffeine cutdown and crunch challenge. Wacko is for "wake up (instead of relying on caffeine) and crunch." I know there are extra letters and all in there but I feel wacko and thought it close enough! :lol: I admit my crunches were not very well executed last night. I was already under the covers and about to just say I was starting over. But then I thought, to h@ll with that, I will do them and wiggled them off. They have gotten easy and I plan to up the intensity by doing variations but for nights like last night, I am calling it OK!

vanessa -- Glad to see you back. You see, you DO need us after all!! We welcome you back into the fold, which is quite a big one these days. That's an awful big challenge you've taken on...and right before the holidays....I am impressed! And making it a Level 1?!?! Are you sure? That means you're allowing yourself only one pause day...well, heck, the original 21-dayer didn't have ANY pause was cut it or run. Yes, I have been considering going all out NOW instead of slumping through the rest of the year, feeling down and dumpy and then being like the rest of the crowd (not here!) and making New Year's resolutions..So, I think I am going to try to plan just how I could get more exercise in and regulate my food intake while still giving myself a bit of leeway. Really, it's all about just being vigilant, instead of allowing any old thing into my mouth. Last night I did go out for beers with a coworker but I had about one to his every three! Ok, he is a young guzzler, but still, normally I would have been matching his pace or close to it..and I did leave when a friend of his came along and I didn't like the guy. Normally, I would have stayed anyhow and just felt worse. I AM making progress! Ok, sorry for the babble. :blah: It's the morning (allowed) shot of caffeine! :coffee: Welcome back! and good luck! :goodluck:

Sushi -- I wasn't even aware you were doing a crunches challenge... :?: I am OUT of it. In any case, congratulations!!! :bravo: :cp: :woo: :encore: :woo: :cp: Great going!!! How do your abs feel now? Do you notice any difference?

stage -- :cp: You are another stellar challenger but also another (relatively speaking, curly!) silent one, you are. Are you going to clue us in on what all the rehearsing and now "opening night" is about?!?!

curly -- I really hope that scale moves for you. I don't know how you get by on so few calories! :strong: Wow! :eek:

ees -- Too bad about the challenge. Didn't you have any pause days left? And don't go giving us any food porn here. I am having trouble enough staying away from yummy things.... ;)

12-17-2005, 08:26 PM
carla -- Hi there! Wasn't ignoring you. Just doing my posting in stages here. Thanks for your concern about my extended blue stage. I am certainly every bit as concerned as you, but, well, what is there to do but just keep trying to make things better...and I do that, that's why I'm in here. There is no real need to worry I guess, I mean, it's just me, your sensitive type in a world that leaves you much by the hurrahs as by the horrors. I'll get by. ;) That said, don't think for a moment that any sort of devotion is wasted on me. I soak it up like a dry sponge. It feels wonderful! :goodvibes

I am feeling physically MUCH better, considering that last night's beers were consumed as a kind of spiritual with which I hoped to kill the bitter aftertaste of my Hong Kong adventures in the company of one of my more sensitive young coworkers. It was pleasant, though the beer really did not sit well with me physically. There's a gym party tonight and I'm going riding before that. I suppose I could ride, go to the gym, work out and shower and be there for the party. I may try it. I wouldn't have to drink and could always just head off when I felt like it. I think one of the things I want to focus on in the coming months is simply finding more people like me (may God help them) instead of just hanging with anyone (which I think is good but it takes its toll). The gym is a good place to start I suppose.

And I had to laugh when I read your question "why do you want to get rid of your muscles?" It DOES sound bizarre, doesn't it? Yes, what I meant is that I want to chisel down, make them leaner, longer (whatever that means really). You're right, pilates and yoga are perhaps the two best things for dressage, that and some heart training cardio. Swimming would be ideal but I just can't stand it. Running is my choice, if I can just get enough weight off so I can keep going without injuring my feet. I would love to have a yoga body, flexible AND strong, able to run for hours. Pilates I can't stand...all that wriggling, wraggling around on the floor like a dying tuna. BUT, if I can do it long enough to like the results then maybe I can make it a habit.

As for the horse, she gets carrots, apples, sugar each and every time she sees me, which is surely why we get along so well. I wish getting out of work earlier would allow me to see her but it actually means the chances are less. It's so far out that the only way I could do it would be to start work later and then go early in the morning to see her. I was doing that a bit in the summer. In the winter it's not really plausible because often the ground is frozen anyhow. Well, I could SEE her but I couldn't ride. Anyhow, the whole situation with the horse needs improvement. Little bits, little bits, I suppose. And the early starts at work is just the fools being fools and arbitrarily changing deadlines with lame excuses about snow-clogged roads somewhere in Japan and how the trucks need extra time to get through. It sounds nice but it's a crock of bull we now know and are sick of it. Oh, well, we put up with it, because we can't do much, but I did get the desk chief to allow us to leave early if we came in earlier and not get docked.

Ok, enough of me. You did ask...

You, on the other hand, are doing utterly fantastic with your challenges and your weight loss and I don't want you to allow any old biddy to smog your party. Ok?! :nono: Old people get cranky and bitter and they take it out on anyone who comes near, even though the only people coming near anymore are the very ones helping them out usually. I would be careful to just NOT talk about anything that could be dragged through the mud. Or you could just go along with reply, to the shocked "haven't you lost that YET?!?!?" just play it back with, "oh, I KNOW, isn't it incredible??! I think it's great that I've been able to hold on to it this long. It shows amazing tenacity of not only fat, but spirit....I'm thinking maybe I should rethink the whole idea of trying to lose it and actually go for a weight gain, you know, like really try to GAIN 100 lbs or so instead of losing 66 more. So, you know, maybe you could really stock up on the sweets for me, have a couple crates of fruitcake and chocolate truffles on hand and at least a magnum of champagne and.....?!?!" and just go on and on until your SM is looking at you (or the phone) wondering if you or she has finally, truly, lost her mind. :lol3:

Well, carla, I gotta run. I feel much better now. Thanks! :hug:

12-17-2005, 08:41 PM
Day one complete!
Stayed within my points
Drank lots of water :)
Completed my push ups and sit ups

Redballoon- Yes I do need you guys!:hug: I know itís a big challenge before the holidays but I think that I need to have it like that otherwise Iíll slack off and I know how much easier it is for me to gain during holidays..with all the goodies that are out. I figured I might as well go all out. Iím sure about level 1, and I plan on not trying to use any pause days like the origional 21 day challenge because I know that if I use one, then Iíll want to use others lol. Good luck on regulating your food intake and getting more exercise, I know you can do it! And yes give yourself a little leeway, just as long as you donít go overboard. Congrats on the beer situation, its good that you cut down on them, you really are making progress!! :D

Eeesabella- Iíve went off my points a lot the past two weeks, and have eaten like a pig, not because I was hungry either but for the mere fact that there was yummy food in the house:) lol It happens to all of us. Staying away from the yummy stuff is hard lol. Good luck with your challenge!!

Sushi Penguin- CONGRATS on finishing your 21 day challenge!!!:carrot: :carrot:

12-17-2005, 10:20 PM
Day 15 in the bag! :carrot: :carrot:

Tomorrow is a pot luck party - which I'm sort of co-hosting. Since I'm a bit of a hermit, I'd really rather beg off, but that would be unpardonable. So I've almost decided that my contribution will be some oven roasted veg. They caramelize beautifully, so for me they're almost like candy, only legal. And I'm seriously considering NOT using my pause day, as I've already said, in order to finish the challenge on the 23rd. (I'll really need the option of drinking while "home" for Christmas with the egregious SM. At least now I stay in a hotel, which makes it less stressful...)

Sushi, Baby! You and your abs have another success under that no-doubt increasingly flattering belt! Way to go.
:carrot::carrot: :xcheer: :xcheer: :cheer: :balloons: :bravo: :balloons: :cheer: :xcheer: :xcheer: :carrot: :carrot:

Vanessa, welcome back, and good luck on your tough challenge.

Fish, did your dog recover all right? Am I right in assuming the little devil ate most of the wrappers as well as the goodies? :ink:

Apple, if you're lurking, I hope you're doing okay after your sudden loss. I've been thinking about you and your kittie. :cry: :hug:

Red, thanks for the lovely post. Being hypersensitive myself, I was concerned that I had somehow offended with my rant. (I have an irrational tendency to take on all free-floating guilt anywhere in my vicinity - another little quirk to keep the therapist from going broke.)
I'm confused about not riding when the ground is frozen? :?: Does that apply everywhere, or would Canadian horses be sturdier? (I do realize there's a difference between dressage and hayride/farm horses, but still...) As for your muscles, I just don't know what to say. :dunno: I tend to think if you're the type to bulk up, that's what you're stuck with. I know the muscular calves I developed running and hiking have stuck around in spite of several years of near inactivity. Even tho my preference would definitely be the long lean thing. And I've never really thought of pilates as wriggling like a fish. Maybe I wasn't doing it right? :lol3: Actually the only part I enjoyed was finding my true spine or whatever they called it. (Okay, so it did involve a little wriggling.) My inflexible joints and lack of abs made the rest of it pretty humiliating.

I think I'll quit here for today. Tomorrow being Sunday, I should find time to send some more devotion Red's way. Anything to keep our mighty :drill: leader happy! ;)

12-18-2005, 01:04 AM
Day 3 complete: No sugar/desserts (even sugar free ones), only one cereal/peanut butter serving.

12-18-2005, 01:13 AM
Wrapping up day 13 of no soda challenge.

Has been a really busy week for me, I missed 3 days of exercise because of shopping for gifts after work (did christmas with my parents and sister and family this weekend). I totally resisted all temptation to drink soda. I didn't want to start over my challenge!! :D

Hey red, I guess it's not my tail bone that hurts (yes that would be strange), but the bones that come together in the groin where you sit on the bike seat (I guess that is the bottom of the pelvis). Man it hurts while I'm riding and afterward. My female parts get numb also. I looked on the website you suggested. The measurements for the Liberator are the same for the saddle I have except for the cut out in the middle. Does it really make that much difference? If it does let me know. Also could being overweight be part of the problem too?

Well good luck to all!!


Sushi Penguin
12-18-2005, 03:19 AM
Alright, I started a new running challenge - Day 1 is done with 10 mins 3 seconds. I was aiming for a 10 min minimum for a start, adding 30-60 seconds every day. :)

12-18-2005, 08:42 AM
yesterday was day 13 for me.....

1298 calories

12-18-2005, 12:51 PM
No Desserts/Treats Day 5
No Chocolate Day 16
*No Soda Day 34 * Challenge Completed* Goal December 25th.

Sushi- :encore::encore: :encore: Congratulations on completing your ab challenge!:encore: :encore: :encore:

Red- I think WACKO is a good name for your challenge. I would consider myself wacko if I tried to give up my coffee addiction. I did actually answer about what I've been doing, it's just back a few pages. --What I'm doing- Community theater, Beauty and the Beast, opening night is Friday. Tonight is our last dress rehearsal. My kids and I have done community theater for the last 4 years and it is so much fun. It makes for a super hectic time during opening week though.-- We had three performances yesterday, and two today. :stress: :eek: :fr: This next week, now that school is out, I will have more time to actually post and chat, rather than semi lurking and just posting my numbers.

Carla- I have a potluck today too, I'm not sure what I'm taking though. I'm frantically searching WW recipes to try to find something. It has to be easy, with relatively few ingredients, and not need to be heated since I will be at the theater. I do already have my own veggie salad to eat to keep me safe and legal.

12-18-2005, 03:28 PM
Again I was tied up and did not post for 2 days. But this morning after reading up on everyone's reports, I see lots of examples of staying away. It makes me happy and sad at the same time. Happy, because you care and continue on with what you set out to do, and are winning this long battle. Sad, because when I read you call the food "yummy" and that's a cue that you'd really like to taste some, but simply know that once you take a bite, there is nothing that can stop you.
As a final feeling I am proud of you, regardless of my previous feelings. Because you are in control avoiding digging a whole for yourself, savoring your health and beauty which has taken hours of work.
As for myself. There've been a few moments when chocolate was available at work, I wrote about those. I too did not take any. Why, because I'd rather have a soup and not experience stomach emptiness and grouling that eat a piece of chocolate which will make me desire more and will leave me empty. Yet, somehow everything feeds into this idea. I am super lazy at times, and with my b-day on today I decided to do absolutely NOTHIGN at home. I know if I cook I will cook plenty, I love that feeling the next morning when you finish a party type salad from celebration. But the biggest problem, I will overeat, not terribly may be 2200 calories, but I just don't want to. Why so much work, to bring more work onto myself? Nah.
So instead, I went for lunch on Friday with group 1 of friends, ex took me to dinner (Mediterranian) where I ate 1-1/4 square of his meat, 2 tbs of rice, and some other salad like appetizer items. Yesterday I just had a cup of soup and 3 inch roast beef sandwich with another friend who took me out. And today a few are comming over for tea and cake. I will just make it a lunch. Why I asked myself? Because next year, I want to celebrate this with a special someone somewhere somehow.
You know my parents called this morning and wished one thing for this year. Became under 200 lb. Can I do it? I don't know, but I sure will try.
So here are my stats:
Challenge A( 3 bottles of water): Level 2 (-1) - DAY 12 (Dec 15) finished
Challenge C( no food after 7pm): Level 3 (-1) - Day 12 (Dec 15) done.
Challenge B(daily gym - 1h, or some other major physical activity no less than 3 hours: Level 3 (-0) - still not began my challenge. Was at work late and came home tired. Will have to wait to 12/19 to start again.

Challenge A( 3 bottles of water): Level 2 (-1) - DAY 13 (Dec 16) finished
Challenge C( no food after 7pm): Level 3 (-1) - DAY 13 (Dec 16) done.
Challenge B(daily gym - 1h, or some other major physical activity no less than 3 hours: Level 3 (-0) - Start on 12/19 again.

Challenge A( 3 bottles of water): Level 2 (-2) - Not enough only had 2 :-(
Challenge C( no food after 7pm): Level 3 (-2) - ate dinner late. after around 8
Challenge B( daily gym - 1h, or some other major physical activity no less than 3 hours): Level 3 (-0) - Start on 12/19 again.

As for my little thing that counts, yesterday when I was offered some belgian chocolate for my b-day I refused. Thankfully, she was trying to buy them on the spot, and no money were wasted.
I've been away for the last 20 min talking to my very best friend, who is a guy. He wished me so many things, and one was most important. "Become what you want to be, but never change your warm, giving character, it's been wounderful that i have a friend like you". I cried yes I did. It's so sweet to hear these things.
Have a good day guys, take care.

12-18-2005, 06:34 PM
Good morning, all. Getting a late start here and feeling very tired and sore. It's no wonder. Yesterday was a very long day. I did ride and it was tough as the wind was very strong and horses were spooking and because one horse would have been dangerous out in the big ring, I had to either go in the big ring (which I chickened out on) or ride in the area where the round ring used to be (what I opted for.) That means a much tougher ride for various reasons I will not go into to bore the laymen. Suffice to say I am feeling it in my butt and back today. Then, I went directly to the gym and ran for 5K, did the crunches AND some weight training. Then I went in search of a meal, found a great curry place, then back to the party where I had minimal food and NO alcohol. I was beat and had to take a bus home (I was NOT walking) that left me off a good 20 mins. from my I'm beat today, but feeling accomplished. :yes:

I am going to split my challenge after all. I allowed myself a small latte yesterday afternoon to help me gear up for more exercise and the party. I don't want that to affect my crunches though so I'm splitting the challenges, which are Level 3s, btw, just because I don't feel like starting over and I am feeling like I want to be easy on myself. ;) So, today is Day 3 for caffeine and Day 4 for crunches.

12-18-2005, 08:06 PM
Trying to get caught up here with everyone. It's tough but I am very happy to see so much action on the thread. I hope it will continue over "the holidays," which are really not holidays at all for me. I am happy to say that the gym will be open through New Year's, which is the big holiday time of year here. Of course, you have to pay extra and, if I'm working, I won't be able to make it because they close early and open late, but, such as on New Year's Day, they will be open. It is actually very crowded on the 1st, mostly with the real hardcore addicted and otherwise borderline demented types like myself. :lol3:

CBETA -- "Examples of staying away?" What do you mean, examples of not overeating or not posting? I think you mean the former. Calling things "yummy" does not mean you'll be out of control if you have a bite. Yummy things will always be yummy, at least I kind of hope so. It's about EXCESS, That is always the problem. There WILL come a time when you can just have one bite and I think you are getting there or at least doing it at times. Good for you! And yes, if you really want to you will easily get under 200 lbs. But you've got to want it and also want to STOP making excuses. You're probably going to have to change certain images that you have about being thin as well. Your tendency to eat, to nurture others, will no doubt always be there. It's whether you allow that tendency to be connected with food or not. It needn't be, at least not to excess. Food IS nurturing, too much of it is simply not good. Anyhow, I'm getting off on a tangent here. I just want to wish you good luck and determination. And wait, did you say yesterday was your birthday!?!?! Wow, Happy Birthday!!! :woo: Best wishes for a VERY happy year!! :yes:

stage -- Thanks for the briefing. Yes, I see your post there with the description of what you are doing. Sorry I missed it. And I am glad to hear you'll be able to chat more. As for caffeine addictions, are you taking in a whole LOT of caffeine? I hope not. It is really bad for you in quantity. You're almost through your no chocolate challenge. If you say you're on no dessert/treats and no chocolate, is that basically a no-sugar challenge when you put the two together? Sounds like it. Continued good luck!! :goodluck:

curly -- :cp:

Sushi -- Congrats on liftoff on your new challenge! :bravo:

swimming -- Good going on Day 13 in the bag. I'm sure all the shopping and walking around was ample exercise to sub for your missed days. About the seat, I don't know. Yes, those would be what some people call your "seat bones" that are hurting, well, actually the flesh that is being squished under them on the hard saddle surface. Being overweight will definitely be a factor as it puts more pressure on the skin. Your nerves there will get used to it, oddly enough, and it will get easier. I know this from doing heavy squats with a loaded barbell on my behind my neck. In the beginning it hurts, then gets less painful. If you feel both seat bones then your saddle is probably wide enough for you. Yes, I think the cutout in the middle does make quite a difference but I'm not certain as I don't have one myself. I should buy one as I have the same problem and often stay off the bike because my parts are already hurting from riding the horse. Being overweight also greatly affects that area as well so things will get better as you get thinner, though I'm not sure how overweight you are (don't have the signatures up in front of me here). For now, I would try to add padding to your bike seat with a cushion or towel and see if that helps. Also, try to put more weight onto the pedals. Some exercise bikes have weird positioning though and won't allow for it. In any case, I hope you can get more comfortable. It's a real bummer when you're determined to exercise and then are slowed by equipement problems or injury.

ID -- :cp:

vanessa -- Congratulations on achieving liftoff! :cb: I hear you on the pause days. It's hard to learn to slack and then be strict again, easier to just be strict sometimes straight through. Good luck and thank you for the words of support. The drinking-to-make-it-interesting is a bad habit with me and one that I don't need anymore. I used to do it when I first learned drinking in Germany and was left behind with all the dialect being spoken (very different from my school German). Still, it helped me learn. But, I don't need it for Japanese any more and I really don't need to be shooting the b with my English-speaking coworkers!

carla -- Good luck on your party. Try to focus on enjoying the people, not the food and you'll be okay. What exactly is caramelization of veggies? I don't think I ever had it though I've heard of it a lot. My mother was a dietician and we were raised with a keen eye to nutrition and caramelization sounds like a no-no... :lol: Imagine you thinking you had offended with your rant! No way. Besides, so what if you had. If there's one thing I think touchy people need more of it's more offensive remarks to build their resistance. :rofl: Guilt is not in my vocabulary, which I have found to be rather bizarre, seeing as there seems to be so much of it around. I don't lay it on people. I don't accept it. I think being forcefed Catholicism as a kid is what did it. I rebelled totally. And, oh yes, pilates is definitely a wriggle. Sure, not all, but I call it that just because I don't like it, so there! :p Frozen ground can cause injuries to the horse's legs, that's why it's not permitted at my club. And, yes, of course, horses can walk around on frozen ground no problem (and surely those Canadian critters as they look quite sturdy) but when you are forcing a horse to move in a certain way (which is what dressage is all about) the horse cannot be careful as she would be naturally, so you have to take responsibility for providing good footing. Well, I gotta run. I am sooo looking forward to more indications of devotion from you, carla!! :spin: Yippeeee!!!

Fish, Apple, I second carla's concern for your dog, Fish, and YOU, Apple, after your loss. How are you doing?

12-18-2005, 09:41 PM
day 13>> 1287 calories

12-18-2005, 10:07 PM
Completed Day 1 yesterday - today is almost over and I'm going strong!!

One thing that keeps me coming back to this thread often is that if I don't, I won't be able to keep up :p This is aside from all the really cool people here of course!!

Apple! I am so sorry about your cat! I don't know if you have seen this before, I hope it brings you some comfort:

Thank you to everyone who gave me information on flours!! I REALLY appreciate it! Especially being told to strive for better than the norm in my baking :p hee hee, thanks Joy! I'm more excited about your list of flours than the list of foods I ate the other day - seriously, I want to try spelt!!

Like Vanessa, I am going to attempt 21 days straight. This is a level 2 again, but this time I'm going in it with the intention of making it 21 days straight!

Happy Birthday CBETA! I'm so glad to hear that you have such a loving and caring friend - what a sweet thing to say, about staying the same and whatnot. I would quote it, but I wouldn't want to confuse Red ;) (j/k I confused myself when I wrote that post).

Sushi - Congratulations on completing your ab challenge! Whew! All of these ab challenges have inspired me! I'm going to try to come up with one to start tomorrow - I'm thinking attempt (daily) and work up to completing the ab routine on this Denise Austin DVD I have.

I don't like pilates either Red - but because I find it to be REALLY hard. I have a lot of respect for people who do pilates (go Phys!!). If you are interested in yoga, I highly recommend this DVD: and this book: No food porn, I was going to confess to everything I ate the day I slipped... but I guess it would be cruel if I did, huh?

I really hope your dog is okay Fish!!

Carla - your SM sounds awful! Bless you for being so sweet and keeping her in your life!! I would not have done the same.

Okay, that's all I have to say right now! Hope this week goes well for everyone!


12-18-2005, 10:31 PM
Day 2 done here!
-Exercised on my gazelle and bike for an hour
-Completed my sit ups and push ups
-Drank plenty of water and stayed within my points

IDGRL2005 - Good job, Day 3 done! Keep up the good work

justkeepswimming - Congrats on day 13!I find it hard to keep on track with my exercising when its so hectic too. Good luck on your challenge!

Sushi Penguin - Good luck with your running challenge..which is something Iíd never be able to do lol

curlylocks- Good luck on your challenge!

stagemomx3- wow youíve got a few challenges going there! Lol I find it hard enough with one but you seem to be doing great on all of yours, keep it upand good luck!

redballoon- Youíre doing great with the running, crunches and weight training! No beer I see, thatís great! Iíd be scared to death to ride, but I hope you enjoyed it. Good luck on you challenges!

eesabella- Good luck with the going 21 days straight, we can make it!!

12-19-2005, 06:43 AM
Hello, everyone. I have notched another day on both challenges. Hurrah! :cp: The crunches hurt today because I think I really did them well yesterday, slowly, going for more burn..I opted out for a cup of tea instead of coffee with my lunch, so I'm okay there. The eating wasn't the best...someone gave me delicious Lebkuchen as a Xmas present...but it was okay. What kept me afloat was thinking of the excellent day I put in yesterday :cloud9: and knowing I just have to do more and more of them until at last they are the habit...too much dwelling on how bad I feel and then just feeling worse about things. I am going to try to think of my accomplishments and meditate on them when I feel myself being sucked into the feeling of..."what the heck, what does it matter anyway..." :nono:

vanessa -- Great going on getting through Day 2! :woo: A whole hour on the cardio! :cp: the rest as well and staying within your points. You'll knock off those 15 lbs in no time flat. Thanks for the cheers. Yes, no beer is a great thing. I used to be very scared to ride..actually I still am...but I work through my fear...imagine warm, quiet balmy days of summer in my head as I'm riding to calm me and stop me from panicking. My horse did not act up for me, which was great. I don't know if it was just coincidence or if she was calmer with me (I doubt that). I think it was just that she wouldn't have acted up where we were. If I had gone out in the big ring she probably would have as she did for my teacher a few times before I got in. She spooked, ran off a few times, did her little bucking bronco thing but the teacher stayed on..apparently she didn't like some rustling noises over in the far corner of the ring...probably is a den of wolves over there just waiting to burst out and GIT her!! :eek:

ees -- Congrats on Day 1! :sunny: You can believe you'll be left behind if you don't check in here often. It really gets hopping some days, doesn't it? I know that poem about the rainbow bridge. It is nice. I also like the one that I think they recited at the Trade Center after 9/11, the one about .."do not stand at my grave and weep..." Do you know it? Apple, do you know it?

Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there; I do not sleep.

I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond glints on snow,
I am the sun on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain.

When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.

Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there; I did not die.

When one of my former teacher's young horses died in a freak accident I made a picture I had of the horse and superimposed that poem over it, then put it in a black frame for her. It's really pretty, though I think it was kind of lost on her.

Well, good luck on getting through without pause days. You can do it! And yes, please keep things simple for me! :dizzy: I hear you on the pilates. I KNOW it's good for me, that's why I have a hard time with it! :lol: That yoga DVD you mentioned got great reviews on Amazon. Maybe I'll give it a try...first to get a DVD player...and yes, NO food porn (oops. I did mention Lebkuchen before! :eek:

curly -- You keep it up! That scale has just GOTTA budge!! :dancer:

Ok, let's see, where are some of our regulars? Shad? marb? And those newbies trixie-o and minaaa, come on, there's no shame if you've fallen. :sunny: Get back up! chai, Phys, you doing OK? :listen: derry? alte? Anyone I missed? Come in and post! :wave: New people are ALWAYS welcome!! :cheers:


12-19-2005, 11:04 AM
Red - Well it's a good thing that I don't know what Lebkuchen is! I'm tempted to look it up though... think I will... OH! I know those! I thought it would be something I have never heard of and wouldn't make my mouth water... I've had them and they are not gross! That poem " not stand on my grave..." gave me chills when I read it just now! I just read it again - so beautiful!

Great going on cutting down on your coffee!! I did that a while back, I know how hard it is!! I know you can do it - trust me it's worth it!!! How many crunches are you doing for your challenge?

It is really refreshing to be at such a busy thread! The first one I got involved in cleared out quick. I wasn't sure if people would come back or not and I made it my goal to write in it every day :lol: so I ended up writing to myself for a week!

Vanessa - congratulations on Day 2!!! I made it through Day 2 myself!! Go us!! :dance: I'm glad you are on track with me, if I forget where I am, I'll just check and see where you are!

Today will be Day 1 of doing my Denise Austin abs - wew hew! I'm thinking I will alternate it with 8 minute abs (yes, I have all the cheesy ones) if/when I get bored or they get too easy (CAN't WAIT!). Later All!!!

12-19-2005, 11:12 AM
Pilates / Lifting Challenge:
Friday - Day 5 complete (1 hour after work of pilates!)
Saturday - **PAUSE**
Sunday - Day 6 complete (20 minutes w/o the video)
Monday - Dat 7 NOT COMPLETED (2/3 pause days left) and I'll do this after work.

What a busy, hectic weekend... I overate the wrong things and drank a beer and was slovenly in general. How on -earth- did I manage to loose a little weight? (Even with all of the SALT I had!?!) Somehow, after my indulgent weekend, I feel like I didn't really deserve it. Interesting.

Does this mean that taking care of my body (eating right, working out) is becoming more rewarding than simply dropping pounds?

In summary, this weekend -- I had a Gyro and greek salad with all of the sauce and dressing, I made (and consumed) bourbon balls, I attended a party and drank beer and ate bean dip with tortilla chips in vast quantity, I ate steak fajitas (real, authentic mexican-style grilled) with homemade (by me!!) corn and flour tortillas, I made and ate some of a reindeer cake, I had wonton soup and vietnamese pancakes.... yikes! What **didn't** I eat? I think I pretty much just got sick of being "on a diet" and wanted to just eat what I wanted to. And I did.

Congrats on everyone for keeping on... and for posting. It's a lot to read after the weekend, and I enjoy it.

12-19-2005, 11:55 AM
Hi more dancing carrots....I only made it through Day 9...then life intervened.

getting ready for holidays consumed me. But I should get some credit for shampooing the carpets, shopping and cleaning? and I'm eating properly and my pants are much looser. no real splurges except for one small snickers bar (left over from halloween--it was going to go stale!)

Thanks for the MISO info. I found exactly what you described at the asian market....bought the yellow...what is the red and white? (beans I guess)

Good news is that I am feeling much stronger, (but after carpet shampooing I had to lay down on a heating pad and take a pain med. because I thought my shoulder might fall off)!

too busy to catch up on the posts right now, but Phys. I did read your response to the hunky questions. Yep, there is nothing like a traditional hung. pamper you.


12-19-2005, 12:23 PM
Hi everyone! Well, I am back to day one today. I did my exercise like a good girl, but went over my calories by about 150-200 both Friday and Sunday. :dizzy: Had it just been Friday, i would have made it a pause day, but with both days and the holidays coming up, I am starting over.

My stupid dog is doing just fine. Thank you all for asking. The vet's office gave him an emetic (sp?) but he refused to regurgitate and after 4 hours they gave him something else and told us to pick him up. All weekend long I kept telling him that "gee, I could have a piece of chocolate, but you ate it all!" Then he would put his head on my lap and wag his stubby tail!. We found some of the wrappers this morning in the back yard (gross!) but it seems to have not affected him at all.

Congrats to Sushi Penguin for finishing her crunch challenge! Hello to everyone else, and welcome Vanessa! I will chat more later. For now I have to do some work!

12-19-2005, 01:03 PM
Day 4 done! woo hoo! this is getting easier!

12-19-2005, 01:56 PM
No Desserts/Treats Day 6
No Chocolate Day 17
*No Soda Day 34 * Challenge Completed* Goal December 25th. ~~PAUSE~~ Day, my Secret Santa gave me a cold Diet Coke and it was just to tempting!

12-19-2005, 03:16 PM
It just happened again. My nice long post disappeared. I don't have the time or courage to start over now - will try to check in later.

Today is Groundhog Day for both challenges (Day 16, one pause day left for each).

12-19-2005, 03:48 PM
ess and red.
I read your comments about beer. I personally do not like it a bit, but I do like other alcohol mixed drinks like daquiry, margarita and especially apple martini. Strangely enough, though it was my b-day yesterday i had ZERO alcohol. Seriously not a sip. I did not even realize it until this morning. This one is definatelly a first b-day w/o even a glass of wine, since I turned 12 or something.
As for my weight. My b-day greated me a full 10lb loss since the day I started. I still need to change the ticker, but not until Friday when I am sure that the loss stuck with me. I had no breakfast, ate a moderate lunch, and for dinner went to a sushi place with friends. All an all though it was someone a sad b-day. I cried a couple of times, eveyone wished for my weight loss and it was somewhat bitter-sweet.
Challenge A( 3 bottles of water): Level 2 (-3) - Not enough only had 2 :-(
Challenge C( no food after 7pm): Level 3 (-2) - DAY 14 (Dec 18) Done
Challenge B( daily gym - 1h, or some other major physical activity no less than 3 hours): Level 3 (-0) - Start on 12/19 again.
So for A I am on day 13. For C I am on day 14, and for B I am day zero as of Yesterday 12/18. This means no pause day for water and 1 pause day for dinner after 7pm.
Good news: 3 more days not including today before a company shutdown till Jan.3.

12-19-2005, 04:12 PM
How is this for keeping up with everyone! I'm writing twice in one day (so far)! I did my abs today - daaaaamn that was hard! I used to work out A LOT - almost every day, lots of aerobics, yoga and what's it called? Pushups, situps, etc... I've been slacking off a lot. I do some yoga now a few times a week and have walked a handfull of times. I've been slacking on the situps more than anything - and boy did it show today! I was a-huffing and puffing! I'm happy to get back to it though!!

Fish - I am so happy to hear that your doggie is okay? What kind do you have? Sorry to hear that you went back to day 1! This time will be better!!

CBETA - I'm with you on alchohol, when I think back to how I used to drink 2 years ago - I can't believe it! I could really hold my liquor - I used to go out all the time! I loved beer especially, and doing shooters. Now I'll have one drink every few months and I get a nice little buzz going. Congratulations (early?) on your 10 pound loss!! That is excellent!! And look at you!! You are 2/3 of the way through two of your challenges!! Way to go!! No worries about having to start your other challenge over, you'll do it this time! I'm happy to hear that you get a long break from work!!

Okay, I am HYPER!!! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: Weeee!! Just had a bunch of grapes - I'm going to use the energy to clean the house!

12-19-2005, 04:12 PM
How is this for keeping up with everyone! I'm writing twice in one day (so far)! I did my abs today - daaaaamn that was hard! I used to work out A LOT - almost every day, lots of aerobics, yoga and what's it called? Pushups, situps, etc... I've been slacking off a lot. I do some yoga now a few times a week and have walked a handfull of times. I've been slacking on the situps more than anything - and boy did it show today! I was a-huffing and puffing! I'm happy to get back to it though!!

Fish - I am so happy to hear that your doggie is okay? What kind do you have? Sorry to hear that you went back to day 1! This time will be better!!

CBETA - I'm with you on alchohol, when I think back to how I used to drink 2 years ago - I can't believe it! I could really hold my liquor - I used to go out all the time! I loved beer especially, and doing shooters. Now I'll have one drink every few months and I get a nice little buzz going. Congratulations (early?) on your 10 pound loss!! That is excellent!! And look at you!! You are 2/3 of the way through two of your challenges!! Way to go!! No worries about having to start your other challenge over, you'll do it this time! I'm happy to hear that you get a long break from work!!

Okay, I am HYPER!!! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: Weeee!! Just had a bunch of grapes - I'm going to use the energy to clean the house!

12-19-2005, 04:38 PM
Good morning, everyone! :sunny: I am being positive in putting a sun here in order to steel myself for the cold and dark outside, the numb hands in the cold water, the freezing wind on my, I will think warm thoughts of summer days....up and at 'em. It's the start of a new day and I am up early to get to the stable and then back home and then up into the snow country on a story I really don't want to do. Oh well...I shall consider it an adventure.

CBETA -- What a wonderful birthday! Even the tears were good ones, right? I don't know. The fact that you ate so well and had zero alcohol is a major accomplishment. It may have been a bit sad but I think it was a good sad, one where you are bidding old habits good-bye and good riddance. It shows you are learning to take care of yourself and what's this!??!! 10 pounds gone!?!?! WOW!!! :cp: :encore: :cp: That is utterly fantastic!!! :cb: I'm sure most of it will "stick" so I am congratulating you now. Way to go, girl!!! Much continued success!

carla -- Oh no!! I hate that when you lose a post. I so look forward to them. :( Please get your courage back up (or learn to work in a separate file, saving regularly, and then :eek: cutting and pasting!!) Double groundhog, eh? Hmmm. Hope it was nothing did have your potluck, didn't you? How did that go?

stage -- Secret Santa? Not the good kind, I'd say! :lol: Good going on the sweets progress though! :bravo:

ID -- :cp: What's your challenge again? Glad it's getting easier, whatever it is! :yes:

Fish -- Too bad about starting over. You are a stickler for the calories. Just a bit over like that and I will pass it by! Glad to hear your dog is ok. So he did eat the wrappers. Wow, does he really like sweets that much or aren't you feeding him enough?! ;) Good luck on your challenge. I know you can do it. I take inspiration from your ways!

marble -- Here is a link to some miso info. Glad you got it. Hope you like it.

So, I take it you're back to Day 1, right? I hope so. Keep it going. You can do this through the holidays as well! :yes: So glad to hear you're feeling more energetic. Watch you don't overdo it.

Phys -- It DOES sound like you're learning to take care of yourself more and enjoy it more too! Great news! But let's keep what we call "food porn" to a minimum for us, ok?! :nono: You can list all your GOOD eating here, but anything else will be considered cruel! :lol3: Then again, like I always say, it is the quantity, isn't it...and I did mention those Lebkuchen. Glad I don't know what reindeer cake and Vietnamese pancakes are though. What is your lifting challenge, btw?

ees -- Glad to see so much of you! :) And glad you liked the poem. I think it is beautiful and so sad and it expresses my feeling of death. It is part of my philosophy and I use the poem to comfort me with the passing of so many of my furred friends. Yes, I know the cutdown in caffeine is very important. I did it for a year and then got back into the bad habit. In the beginning, the caffeine would affect me so much, then I got used to it again, which just shows what a powerful drug it is. The benefits were huge and I urge everyone to cut way down. Read the book "Caffeine Blues" if you ever need motivation! Good luck on your ab challenge. I just do 10 sets of 20 of your basic crunches and up to the side diagonally and on my side. I may get a video and follow that on days I have the time. Good idea!

12-19-2005, 05:00 PM
To make up for the food porn of this morning *blushes furiously*...

for lunch I went to QDoba and had a grilled veggie taco salad without the shell. I had extra corn salsa and lite sour cream -- with no cheese. They load on the lettuce, some fat free ranch-y dressing, corn salas, DELICIOUS grilled veggies (they taste like fire, yummmm) and then sour cream. Heavenly... and 350 calories. Better?

As for the 'lifting' part of my pilates/lifting challenge... I have yet to actually do it. I was hoping to start lifting weights and so I planned either pilates or lifting as my challenge (either is a muscle-building, non-cardio workout) but haven't managed to get the lifting in at all!! All the better when I go to Louisville with the 24-access free gym.

12-19-2005, 06:02 PM
Sorry, I've been flat out over the weekend with other things. Had a tourist trip with a young Japanese friend on Sunday and Saturday was spent working around the house, organising the cat, having dinner with my DS2 and his girlfriend.

I'm still on track - day 14 I think. I took a pause day on Sunday as we had dinner at a friends place and they had made dukkah - which you can't eat any other way except by dipping a piece of bread into oil and then into dukkah. So I had a few slices, it was good.

I haven't got time to go back through all the posts at the moment so I'll just answer the ones I can see.

Eesa - Spelt is called spelt here in Australia. I don't know if they call it the same thing in the States. But you should be able to find it, or find out about it from a health food shop or off the internet - great thing the internet. Seek and ye shall find.

Vanessa - exercise sounds great, keep it going, keep it up.

Red - what am I going to do with you???
What kept me afloat was thinking of the excellent day I put in yesterday and knowing I just have to do more and more of them until at last they are the habit...too much dwelling on how bad I feel and then just feeling worse about things. I am going to try to think of my accomplishments and meditate on them when I feel myself being sucked into the feeling of..."what the heck, what does it matter anyway..."
Sounds like you were having a blue, blue day at that point.
Winter is always the time of our discontent. The cold, the winds, the job, that awful "do I hafta?" syndrome. The heck it doesn't matter!!!! You matter so just hibernate when you have to and then get back among us who are waiting on your every word - yes even Carla! As for the second post - yes the snow and ice are an adventure. Go on out there - get that story and make it the best you have ever done.
Are you feeling a little blue because of the lack of Christmas celebration and not being near the nearest and dearest or even just some folk who look, speak and remind you of home?

CBETA - Happy Birthday to you. It sounds to me like it was a very successful birthday for you. 10lbs gone is completely AWESOME!

Sorry, I gotta go, but reading through the lists it sounds like most of us are doing quite well. I'm still doing the abs routine, it has now become part of the cardio routine and I do them between bouts on the treadie or eliptical or bike. So that's one habit I more or less seem to have formed.

Before I forget - here is one of the birds we fed on our trip round the Gold Coast on Sunday.
Catch ya

Sushi Penguin
12-19-2005, 06:21 PM
Day 2 of my new running challenge is done - I ran for 10 mins 30 sec. Aiming for 11 today. For some reason it gets really tough as soon as the watch shows 8 min 4 sec :lol:

12-19-2005, 07:43 PM
day 14>>>> 1289

12-19-2005, 08:19 PM
Red, Shad, Ess, and everyone else. Thank you for the b-day wishes.
I guess I am doing ok. At least this week a tiny bit less hectic as were the previous 2. I am counting down the days.
There is a possibility I will drive up to lake Tahoe for a couple of days, but even then I hope I can do my water and early dinners. Though I know the only way I can stay in the saddle and not mess then up if I just drink nothing except water after dinner. That will be challenge but I think I can manage.
My friends did they they'd like to hang with me there, and it feels good to be needed.
p.s challenge A - 2 bottles of water for today are down. 1 is at the gym. I am good on that. As far as food, had a salad for lunch. I was so hungry for it.

Apple Blossom
12-19-2005, 08:52 PM
Thank you all for your kind words.I'm doing OK, caught up in the holiday rush. This is the first time I've ever felt really overwhelmed by it all. But having a 1 1/2 year old around adds to the chaos. Plus my mom and 2 brothers will be here. Last year it was just us. Anyway, I miss Nellie a lot. It's weird not having a cat around, I've always had at least one. we'll go rescue a cat from the pound after the holidays.
Fish, my dog does stuff like that all the time, but usually he just swipes vegetables or bread. Once he ate 5 or 6 tomatoes from our garden that I had picked and left on the kitchen counter. And he carried them into the family room so he could eat them off our brand new carpet! @!##!!*! Dog....
I wasn't able to walk on Saturday because I had company and I would have suggested we all go for a walk but it was raining. I'm going to start again, but maybe not until tomorrow. Still doing the sit ups. Day 17!

12-20-2005, 01:28 AM
Thanks, Shad. I'm on my way out the door. Will try to get a good story. Just worried about all the snow that's been dumped up there (near Toyama). Wish me luck.... :wave: Should be back tomorrow (Wednesday).

12-20-2005, 02:02 AM
I think I'll give technology another chance, and rewrite my lost post. I would take Red's advice on cutting and pasting and stuff, but have no idea how to.

Today is Day 16 complete for both challenges. The wine one was a little dificult, as I have an almost full bottle of very good red just sitting there going bad, but... Only one pause day left on each.

Actually, Red, I have a small bone to pick with you. I read thru your post about splitting your challenge into two, and for the life of me can't see the difference between that and my much maligned semi-pause concept. And for even suggesting it I was called naughty and given a public spanking! (Not that I didn't enjoy that part...) I checked back, and on Nov 28, o fearless leader, you reminded me that adding extra bits to a challenge was what made it challenging (I had the exact wording in the missing post). So what gives? Could I have just split my challenge, thus making it possible to get thru to the end of the 2 days on at least one of them?

The pot luck was tasty, and of course when the time came to decide about indulgence, there I was with a glass in my hand eyeing the cheesecake. And of course, there's no point in wasting a pause day on a single glass, so needless to say this morning was heavy going. Including on the scale, where I hope the one lb gain was all salt and grease. I really, really must learn moderation. But maybe not in this lifetime.

Red, if you roast root vegetables in the oven, they eventually soften a little and become very sweet and a little crusty on the bottom. No sugar or caramel added, I swear, only a little oil or even salad dressing. They were an enormous hit at the dinner, even the parsnips and turnip and brussels sprouts.

Marble, if you're still bunged up, I recommend an evening of excess like I had. It led to a quite remarkably satisfying bathroom experience this morning..
It's good to hear you're getting your energy and range of movement back, but sad that you've had to quit at Day 9. Are you starting up again now, or waiting til after Christmas?

Edit: So Red, I just reread your post shutting down my semi-pause idea. Is it possible I misunderstood, and you were tellig me then I couldn't semi-pause but COULD split my challenge after I had started it? If so, my apologies for the aspersions cast above, and 50 lashes with a wet noodle to me for discarding a perfectly good, almost complete no-wine sub-challenge. Rats!

12-20-2005, 02:51 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 7
No Chocolate Day 18

12-20-2005, 03:02 AM
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Carla -Cut and paste is easy. You can do this when you have written your post in word or whatever program you want to use or when you have written it in here and before you submit it. I always copy mine before I post so I can paste it in again should I lose it the first time, and again should I lose it a second time - third time forget it, paste it in word and come back later when you've finished throwing things.

Put your cursor at the beginning of the post so that it flashes before the first word. Hold down the left mouse button and drag the mouse to the end of the post. You should see the post change colour (become highlighted in techy terms). Now if you let the mouse button go, the highlight should stay there. Now hold down the Ctrl key ( it's usually at the bottom left of the keyboard although on a laptop it may be somewhere in the top right corner). Then press C. This copies the post. If you are using word, once you have highlighted the stuff to copy, you can click the clipboard button on the toolbar instead of the Ctrl+C. Okay so far? Now you have copied the text to the computers memory.

Then go to the place where you want the post to be permanently ie in the Quick Reply box or the Go advanced screen. Put the cursor somewhere in the field (generally top left) and hold down the Ctrl key again and press V (V for victory) You should see your post or your text displayed in the field.

If the above is all mud, slush and snow and I haven't explained it clearly enough then yell (loudly) I'll go through it again. S l o w l y.

Red, have a good time, take care and come back as soon as you can. We'll be waiting and missing you.

12-20-2005, 10:09 AM
Well, all, I have completed
DAY 7 of my pilates/lifting Challenge by doing my pilates on the floor while my pizza was cooking last night.

Also, I've met my December weight loss goal... though, to be fair, I started the goal the Monday after Thanksgiving, so I've had a bit of a headstart (plus all of that over-indulging-right-after-pigging-out-so-it's-a-lot-of-water-and-easily-lost weight from Turkey day and the weekend....)... but 8 lbs is 8 lbs, regardless!!
Maybe I'll work into that goal keeping the 8 lbs off through until the end of the month... that would be a good idea, I think, as it's likely to come back at least a little this weekend...

12-20-2005, 11:39 AM
1378 in calories and 40 minutes on the elliptical.

I am a little stressed about getting through this weekend. I have a funny feeling that I will be starting the challenge over again on Monday - I have no problem with the exercise, but keeping the calories down with all the tidbits is going to be difficult. My sister and I are trying to have a healthy menu, but the rest of our family is bound into the traditions of mashed potatoes, gravy, pie, snacks, sweets, etc.

Here is our planned menu:

Appetizers - cheese/cracker/veggie tray; crab dip; stuffed mushrooms
Soup - chilled champagne basil fruit soup
Salad - blood orange and avocado with frisee (or other spring/mixed greens)
Starch - mashed potatoes and gravy; roasted winter root vegetables (I will be having the roasted veggies);
Main dish - honey baked ham with a cranberry-orange sauce
Dessert - pumpkin pie with cool whip; blackberry cobbler with light vanilla ice-cream

I am going to try to not nibble all day. Or at least try to stick to the veggies - but it is so hard! I just have to remember that I need to fit into my swimsuit!

PhysDom - way to go on meeting your December goal!!! That is fantastic!

12-20-2005, 12:40 PM
Fish - I'd love a recipe for that soup! It sounds wonderful. So does the salad -- but I haven't seen blood oranges in any of my supermarkets.

Apple Blossom
12-20-2005, 01:13 PM
Day 18 of SWN. Almost done. I am afraid I have gained weight. I am also afraid to step on the scale. I'm just eating with out thinking. And it has to stop. I fear I will be one of those New Years resolution people. Well, if I start after christmas I guess I can keep myself out of this catagory.:p
What I really need is a jump start, Carla? Did you mention some fruit fast thing? I think if I can be hungry for a couple of days I will feel better and be better able to stick to it. I might even schedule a fasting day sometime next week. Anyway, I really don't like the way my body feels right now.
Great job physdom!! You must be feeling GREAT!!!:cp: :hat:

12-20-2005, 02:17 PM
PhysDom- Congrats on meeting your weight loss goal for December, yes 8lbs is 8lbs!!

Fish- Could you please post the soup recipe, it sounds YUMMMY!

AppleBlossom- I've had really good success following South Beach phase 1 for 7 to 10 days to jump start weight loss. It's basically only eating veggies(no carrots) and protein, with a little dairy. No fruit or carbs. for the limited time. I'm following it for this week leading up to the weekend.

Red- Good Luck:goodluck:

12-20-2005, 02:39 PM
Ask, and ye shall receive! We are not making the Madeleines because we are doing this as a first course rather than a dessert.

Blood Oranges can usually be found at Whole Foods, possibly Trader Joes? You probably won't find them at a safeway/giant/albertsons. They are a little smaller, maybe tennis ball sized. The flesh is a beautiful ruby red (like ruby grapefruit in color) and they are a little sweeter (i think) than a regular juicing orange.

Chilled Basil-Champagne Fruit Soup with Madeleines Recipe courtesy Emeril Lagasse, 2005
See this recipe on air Tuesday Dec. 27 at 8:00 PM ET/PT.

Recipe Summary
Difficulty: Medium
Prep Time: 30 minutes
Inactive Prep Time: 2 hours
Cook Time: 40 minutes
Yield: 6 cups
User Rating:

2 Granny Smith apples, peeled, cored, and roughly chopped
1/2 honeydew melon, seeded, peeled, and roughly chopped
1 1/2 cups water
3/4 to 1 cup sugar
1/4 cup freshly squeezed orange juice
1 teaspoon lemon zest
2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
2 tablespoons chopped fresh basil leaves, plus extra for garnish
1 cup rose brut Champagne, chilled
Madeleines, recipe follows

Combine the apples, honeydew, water, sugar, orange juice, lemon zest and lemon juice in a 2-quart, heavy saucepan. (The amount of sugar varies depending on the sweetness of the honeydew. If the honeydew is very sweet, use 3/4 cup of sugar, but if it doesn't seem as sweet, increase the sugar to 1 cup.) Bring the mixture to a boil over medium-high heat, reduce the heat to medium low, and simmer uncovered for 20 minutes.
Remove the pan from the heat, add the basil to the pan and puree with an immersion blender, or in small batches in a blender (be sure to use caution when blending hot liquids in a blender). Transfer to a clean container and refrigerate until thoroughly chilled, at least 2 hours.

Stir the Champagne into the soup. Ladle into 6 small chilled bowls, and garnish with additional chopped basil and 2 Madeleines per serving. Serve immediately either as a first course or a dessert.

12-20-2005, 02:52 PM
Hello Everyone! Made it Day 2/21 - Abs and Day 3/21 - under 1800!

:elf: Go Phys!! :elf: That brings your total to 17 pounds lost! Wow! You must really be able to see a difference now!!

Fish - Your menu sounds sooo good! Ooh, just noticed that you posted the recipe - YUM! I'm going to pass the recipe onto my mom! Thanks!

Joy - That bird is beautiful!! I saved the picture to my desktop, it's so cute!

Red - Did you have fun at the stable yesterday? What is your horse's name?

Apple - I never tried a fast or cleanse thingy. Let me know how it goes! I'm too scared to try a fast, but a fruit or veggie cleanse sounds good. How do you like yours Stage? Does it get boring? Why do you have to go so many days... and is it only good if you are doing a low-carb diet?

My Christmas tree kind of smells like natural gas. We don't have natural gas... so no worries about that. My boyfriend doesn't think it smells, but eeee-yuck! I do! He said that someone sprays the trees on the highway so that people don't steal them (they are supposed to stink, but it should be more noticeable). Hmmm, what else... oh! I found some low calorie, sugar free, sugar substitute free "cookie" recipes if anyone is interested. I brought some Splenda-made treats with me for Thanksgiving so I would have something to eat and not go overboard with the real sugar stuff. This time I'm aiming for no substitutes either. Haven't tried them yet though.

Bye for now!!

12-20-2005, 03:05 PM
I'd like to see some cookie recipes! And thanks for the congrats, Ees. The truth is that I don't -see- a difference at all, but my clothes are a lot looser (even my pants in the thighs!!) so I know that I must be smaller. I *must* be... but can't see it. *shrug*

And thanks for the recipe, FishWoman.

12-20-2005, 03:08 PM
eesabella- Sorry your tree smells bad, yuck! The SBphase 1 is not a fast, it's suppose to be to get you over carb/sugar cravings, then in phase 2 you slowly add back in carbs and fruits.

Fish- Thanks for the recipe!

Anyone else with yummy holiday menu item recipes to share?

12-20-2005, 03:10 PM
Here's a lower fat eggnog recipe that I plan to try for Christmas Eve.

Christa's Low fat Holiday Egg Nog
Try the low fat version of this delicious holiday drink! Your guests will never know the difference. The recipe works well with or without alcohol.

½ cup of egg substitute
3 tbsp of sugar
8 ounces of nonfat condensed milk
12 ounces of skim milk
1 tsp of vanilla
3 ounces of rum (optional)

Whip egg substitute and sugar together. Add both milks to the egg mixture and mix well. Add rum if desired and chill for at least 4 hours. Sprinkle nutmeg over top just before serving.

Makes 10-12 servings
Nutrition information per serving:
144 calories
5 grams of protein
24 grams of carbohydrate
0 grams of fiber
0.5 grams of fat

Sushi Penguin
12-20-2005, 04:58 PM
Ran for 11 minutes yesterday evening, so it's Day 4 today. :)

12-20-2005, 05:21 PM
They sound delicious, don't they? :lol: I took the recipes down - message me if you want them!!

Thanks for the egg nog recipe Stage - all I can say is YUM! I am NUTS about egg nog!

Sushi - congrats on making it to Day 4!! :)

12-20-2005, 05:49 PM
Apple, the fruit fast I was talking about was in the last issue of Woman's World or Woman's Weekly. I haven't tried it myself, and it sounded a bit extreme. I think you might do better with a week of the Fat Flush Diet, which has a three or five-day quick loss version. The author is Gittelman. Sorry I'm not being more helpful. but I'll try to find the exact title of the quick loss version. Maybe you should wait to weigh in until you've got a diet and all the ingredients on hand to start right away if necessary... And by the way, I've been losing nicely on the 1200cal diet doctor diet I described a few days ago, where you count portions instead of actual calories. Maybe you could try that? (Of course right now I'm having a hungry day, so I won't be losing this week. After Christmas I can get back to the strict version.)
Good luck!

12-20-2005, 06:45 PM
Why am I toturing myself? I made peanut butter balls today! I love peanut butter balls. I would have to take a pause day on BOTH of my challenges to have one though. Why oh why did I do this to myself?????

12-20-2005, 09:09 PM
day 15>>>1279

all the goodies sound yummy!

12-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Oh No Stage!! Did the PB Nugget recipe get you going? Are they really bad for you (the ones you made)?

12-21-2005, 01:34 AM
Day 5 completed- no sugar/sugar free stuff, only one serving of cereal/peanut butter

12-21-2005, 02:34 AM
Day 17 wine challenge, last pause day on chocolate challenge (mugged by marzipan, which counts in my "chocolate" challenge), so Groundhog Day/Day 16.

Shad, thanks for the copy and paste lesson. I did actually understand it, but still need to figure how to make it so I can see posts on one side of the screen while writing answers in Word on the other side. It would make it a lot easier to respond to everyone. By the way, are things going okay with the wayward brother? And the job hunt?

It's not looking good for me to compete my challenges, but I'll keep trying. At this point the chocolate one would require that I behave up to and including Christmas Day. Yeah, right. Like that's going to happen. The wine will be okay as long as I don't indulge before visiting the awful SF starting Christmas Eve - not a visit I really want to endure without alcohol, although I've done it before.

It's late, so I'll sign off now. Tomorrow a contractor is coming to give me advice and an estimate on a kitchen and/or bathroom reno, not that I can afford either. (I got the BIG scary Visa bill today, and there's still a lot of other outstanding expenses to come in January, so renos may be a bad idea... :( )

12-21-2005, 02:48 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 7 *PAUSE* I had a peanut butter ball, but before I dipped it in the chocolate!

No Chocolate Day 19

Only 2 more days to go!!!!

12-21-2005, 06:12 AM
Hello all. I am back in Tokyo. Up on the ski slopes (no skiing) this morning, the sun made a rare appearance (they say) and it was beautiful. Could see the Japan Sea and Sado Island from up there, where there was already 4 meters of snow and plenty more on the way. The scenery and the nostalgic feeling of being around all that snow (Pittsburgh used to get lots when I was a kid) was payment enough, thank God, as I spent 4 hours trudging around looking at the expensive esthetic salons and hotel suites (the top one goes for $2,000 a night!!) :eek: It was starting to annoy me. Zoomed back to Tokyo on the bullet train and all is well. Kitties fine, used to their person being away for a day or two. Challenges still intact.

All this food talk, recipes... I know it's the holidays and all but please be considerate of all those trying to lose weight ;) and try to keep the recipes to lowcal or healthy ones...I think that's what they all were, but I'm getting worried :stress: we're going to turn into some Oprah magazine thread, with how to lose weight tips and groans of "the scale won't budge!" :shrug: side by side with rich, calorie-packed recipes and full-color food-porn centerfolds. Please remember some of us are on VERY low-calorie regimes! CB, your plea for cookie recipes was I HOPE, one for low-cal cookie recipes (really, is that a concept), no?!

Fish, you CAN do it. You have a cruise coming up. You DON'T need this holiday gluttony! :nono: Think of it as others, like me, having nothing else to look forward to! You do! Get into that swimsuit and, more!, look smashing in it!!

Will write more later.


12-21-2005, 07:52 AM
Here's a photo of where I was this morning...ocean and island of Sado are vaguely visible in the background in upper right...

On the right is a photo of Nozomi, one of my three...

12-21-2005, 09:19 AM
Day 8 Pilates/Lifting Challenge COMPLETED last night with 60 min. pilates.
Day 9 Pilates/Lifting Challenge COMPLETED this morning with 20 min. pilates.

I always feel a nice -stretch- when I do my pilates in the morning that I just don't get after I've been up and working all day. I don't have time to do the 60min, though, and the 20 isn't giving me a burn anymore. I think that I'll be glad to move on to lifting -- then I can always feel like I'm doing something substantial.

Also: I'm wearing a new pair of slacks today, size 10, and they make my butt look cute! I forgot to cut the stitching on the pockets, though, so I can't make proper use of them and that's a pain!

I'm jealous of Japan... *sigh* Wait, that doens't make sense. I'm jealous of Red in Tokyo...

12-21-2005, 11:10 AM
Hello Everyone!

Day 2/21 - Abs!
Day 4/21 - under 1800

Sorry about the recipes Red! I think that calorie/fat content on them aren't too bad. I figure that I could have 2 without it killing my diet - but as you know, I am eating more calories than most dieters do (so far). I'll take them down and people can just message me if they want them! Thanks for the pictures! Beautiful view! Your cat is ADORABLE!

Carla - I don't know if I can explain this as well as Joy would be able to... but you can have Word and 3FC side by side. On the very top right, you should see the minimize, resize and close buttons (a line, a box and an X). Hit the middle one - the box/resize button. That should shrink it up (on both the Word and 3FC). Then hover your cursor over the edge of the internet browser or Word doc. This should bring up arrows going either way. Click and hold (hold the click :p) and drag until you are satisfied. I recommend putting one on top and one on the bottom. If you do it side by side, it may make it a bit trickier to work with! Hope that helps!

So glad your size 10's fit Phys!! Woo hoo!!! :hat:

12-21-2005, 11:36 AM
Sorry Red I didn't know posting recipes on this thread was a no no. :sorry: I'll go take mine down. IT is a low cal. version, but I would not want to be anyones down fall!

Phys- Congrats on the size 10s you ROCK! :encore:

12-21-2005, 12:30 PM
Red, your kitty is adorable! The ski slopes looked gorgeous as well.

I am back to day 1. Yesterday was a horrible, rotten, no-good day at work. I didn't get home until 11 p.m., I didn't work out, and I ate under 900 calories, almost 200 of which were a huge glass of wine when i finally got home.:o

I am still crazy busy at work, but the day seems to be going better, so i thought I would pop in and say hello. "Hello!"

Chat more later!

12-21-2005, 03:52 PM
Stage!! Ees!! Don't take your recipe down!!! :eek: I was kind of kidding and, like I said, they WERE lowcal recipes, right? I was worried about seeing the thread turn into some recipe corner of NOT lowcal NOR healthy recipes. You'll have to get used to my humor. I usually am saying things "tongue in cheek" ;) and I was worried of what was to come! :yikes: not what was up there. Please don't take me wrong! :cry:

12-21-2005, 03:53 PM
Gosh, Red, way to make her feel bad.


(I guess I'll try and learn to start dishing it out around here...)

12-21-2005, 04:12 PM
Monring, all. Up early, gotta get out. Just wanted to say that my challenge is still on track, have to figure out the days. Probably is somewhere like Day 5 for caffeine, Day 6 for crunches. The last two nights I did the crunches very late, but I did them! Hurrah! Glad you liked the photos. The cat is a "she." She's very strange, uncannily smart, not a cuddler but wants to be near me. I found her starving in a park but came up to me and wouldn't leave me be. I named her "Nozomi" because it means "hope," or "wish" and it was in tribute to whatever it was that kept her going, some hope of being taken in and cared for or something. It was all she had as she probably would have died very soon after if I hadn't put her in my backpack, turned around and brought her back home and then went to work.

Phys -- make who feel bad? stage? NO! stage! ees! :hug: Phys, dishing what out?!? I am the only one who gets to dish it out around here!! :lol3: And carla and Shad usually can't be stopped so they do it too! We are older and wiser and can't be changed at this point! and DON'T be jealous of me in Japan!! You would most likely NOT want to be here if you were! It is a horrible, horrible place :lol: and as for the work in the mountains, it being beautiful was my only payment. All I got to do was look and ask questions and take pictures. Didn't even leave there with a meal in me, but they did drive me to the station, after which it was a three-and-a-half hour train ride home with four transfers. At the resort, it was all so out-of-limits for me. Some of the rooms went for $2,000 a night!! It was making me irritated and depressed thinking of how people can and do spend their money. What would I care, I was thinking? Do they think I was going to write about this? Then again.... At this resort, they say they have people flying in there by helicopter. The life of a reporter is one where you had better learn NOT to be jealous! or at all bitter. You get to mingle with the rich and famous and go to their playgrounds, but you can't go in and play yourself!

12-21-2005, 04:31 PM
Stage!! Ees!! Don't take your recipe down!!! :eek: I was kind of kidding and, like I said, they WERE lowcal recipes, right? I was worried about seeing the thread turn into some recipe corner of NOT lowcal NOR healthy recipes. You'll have to get used to my humor. I usually am saying things "tongue in cheek" ;) and I was worried of what was to come! :yikes: not what was up there. Please don't take me wrong! :cry:

This is what my comment referred to -- but just joking.

I didn't know that you were a reporter. I'm glad to hear you 'report' that your challenge is still on track! Until tomorrow -- with hopefully another day to mark down...
Have a great evening!

Apple Blossom
12-21-2005, 04:52 PM
Day 19 SWN. Only 2 more days to go. Thanks for all the tips. I'm thinking about 1 fast day, only water, 1 fruit day, and then 1500 cals. My husband will be out of town for a couple of days between X-mas and New Year's so I'll start then...
Fish, I'm sure you will do fine, you counted cals on Thanksgiving for goodness sakes!!! I'm sorry about having to go back to day one.
I have to go, my son is miserable today! Bye!

12-21-2005, 05:58 PM
It's 2pm here, not sure if I was missed, but I sure missed you.
Company shotdown is comming up and today our boss took us for Lunch. I am glad she picked a sushi place, though my choices were semi-good. I did have some tempura. If all works on Friday I am going up to Lake Tahoe. NO skiing but may be some cross contry ski or just playing in the snow.
Food and challenge behaviour have been really bad. Mainly because I've not gone to the gym. Why? I feel like I cannot push myself. I am still strong and the other day even after taking a tiny piece of chocolate I looked at it and w/o remorse threw it into the trash. Felt good...seriously, I wanted to grab all of the chocolate in the office and throw it away. Strange me.
The water challenge is the only challenge I was doing really well on. I am starting to even crave water, one thing though it is uncomfortable as I have to leave the meetings several times a day to go use the restroom.
Challenge A( 3 bottles of water): Level 2 (-2) - DAY 16 (Dec 20)
Challenge C( no food after 7pm): Level 3 (-3) - DAY 15 (Dec 20)
Challenge B( daily gym - 1h, or some other major physical activity no less than 3 hours): Level 3 (-0) - I don't know when I will start. I am hoping if I do go to Tahoe, I will be active and outside full days, so I can then start my challenge and continue when I return.
Thank you for all the warm birhtday wishes. I am very fortunate to have found all of you.... Happy Holiday wishes if I do not talk before the holidays.

12-21-2005, 07:09 PM
day 16! :) 1211 calories AND today was my christmas party at work... i am so proud of myself ... No cake, no candy, no cookies... and believe me there were a lot of tempting things!!! :)

p.s. Red your kitty is sooooooo cute!

12-21-2005, 08:11 PM
Apparently I am allowed to get stuck in and dish it out - so I probably will!!!

Curly - you are a star. All things going on around you and you keep on keeping on.

CBETA - there are times when you just feel that you can't carry on any longer. Sometimes it is because the body has just taken enough and refuses to carry on. When that happens to me, I just set a new date a couple of days into the future to go back to it. I had one of these sessions about 2 weeks back and I took 4 days off the gym, then pushed back into it. That works for me.

Red - sounds funny to me that you weren't able to look at the luxury and feel the quality - how are you supposed to give a good report if you don't know what you are looking for? Here, they take the travel reporters in, quarter them over night, ply them with food and drink and then dare them to say something bad!!!! Love the pics. Lucky Nozomi. She found you to look after her. She looks well enough now.

I've fallen off the challenge again. But not badly - just not thinking straight, only I don't have a pause day left so sliding down the snakes and back to square one. Too bad. After Christmas will see me back in the groove again.

I think I posted some pictures here of the weekend trip to Tamborine and Currumbin. Now they are on the website so if you want to go see some beautiful birds, a croc or two or a koala up a gumtree, and the wicked witch of the east casting a spell or two, click this link. and enjoy. The slideshow is the best way to view them.

Gotta go. Morning tea is happening today. More food than you know what to do with. I shall be good.

12-21-2005, 08:41 PM
Alright you all are freakin me out just a bit. :p Some day I will learn what is tongue in cheek and what isn't. By the way DH tells me often that I have no sense of humor. Which is not exactly true, I just don't always think his jokes are funny.:D

12-21-2005, 11:16 PM
Just checking in! :)

Finishing up day 17 on my no soda challenge!!

Oh man, I didn't realize I was so close :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: !

I counted it twice to make sure!!

I am at 552 min on my exercise goal of 800 min for December. I just gotta keep it going, and going, and going (energizer bunny) :ebike: (close enough LOL).

Good luck all! :D


12-21-2005, 11:31 PM
Hey Everyone!

What is everyone doing for the holidays? I'm going to my parent's house. They are surrounded by farms - it's reeeeally relaxing! My 3 sisters will be there (2 live in NY, 1 in Ohio) one with her boyfriend, one with her girlfriend and one with her cat! One of my sisters had surgery on Monday, so she will be in recovery. It's supposed to be a quick recovery though! She had a rod put in her leg about a year ago to help her with her hip problems. It was taken out on Monday. It's pretty cool! She has been dealing with problems with her hip since she was 12, this surgery seems to be the first thing that has worked! So far so good!

What are everyone's holiday traditions? We eat a lot Christmas Eve night (not me this year!!)... then Santa puts our stockings on the ends of our beds in the middle of the night. Then one of my sisters (always the same one) wakes everyone up around 4 in the morning and makes us open our stockings together... tries to convince us to do presents that early :P. Then we open gifts and lounge for a while. Then my mom or I make breakfast for everyone. More eating, playing :) good stuff! Really exciting, huh? I'm definitly going to try to get my mobile sisters to walk to the neighbors to pet horses!

Red - I figured that I ought to take down the recipes anyway - because although they are low-calorie, they are comparable to regular cookie. Eh :P well I posted them to the recipe area of the site! I figured you didn't really mind... and hey, we wouldn't want this to turn into the Oprah/recipe thread ;) I can't believe they didn't feed you on your trip!! That's nutty! I love the story of how you found Nozomi! That is SO sweet!!

Ha ha Stage! I think THAT'S funny (the whole thing with your hubby). What does tongue and cheek mean?

Beautiful pictures Joy! Thank you for sharing them!! What were you feeding those birds?

Curly - you ROCK!! :twirly: :hyper: :twirly:

CBETA - I always miss you when you haven't written in a bit!! I'm glad to hear that you have such great plans for the holidays!

Apple!! You're almost there!!!

Hello Fish ;) hope this week eases up for you!

Okay, I was just telling my boyfriend about this thread and the challenges. He wants to know if it is ever anyone's challenge to jump up and down? :p

Talk to you later!!


12-21-2005, 11:39 PM
Oh Joy! I just looked at some of your other pictures! You take beautiful pictures and I LOVE your gardens!! You are so talented!!

12-21-2005, 11:44 PM
The stuff they feed the birds with is a mixture of honey, water and condensed milk (sweetened variety no doubt) Apparently it is very very sweet. They also get some nuts and seeds later in the feed session, after they have done the tourist bit and let everyone ooooh and aaaah over them. The park has a 'feedometer' which sort of gives the number of birds. Theres 4 categories. Full house - means more birds than the people can cope with, then there is full flock, which means the birds extended family group and flock (immediate family). Now immediate family might mean 1000 or more birds. I can't remember the category that meant the least number of birds. Feel free to download them to your desktop if you wish. Actually that single close up of the bird drinking is better than the one I posted the other day.

12-22-2005, 12:31 AM
:cookie: No Desserts/Treats Day 8

:chockiss: No Chocolate Day 20- Doing the I can make it one more day happy dance. :carrot:

:candy: For Christmas we will be going to my Aunt's Christmas Eve morning, to celebrate with my extended family. Food, drink(coffee!) opening a few presents, chatting with cousins I don't see very often. Christmas eve we go to my SIL's for Christmas with DH's family. Food, drink:xcheer: (alcoholic I'm not driving, and my MIL is there!) Christmas day is at our house. We will get up, the kids will open their stockings, we'll eat breakfast, then we'll open presents. My parents, two brothers and their wives, and my niece will be here for dinner. My Dad cooks! He's making prime rib for those that want it, and turkey breast for the rest of us. Along with other traditional fare.:tree:

12-22-2005, 12:34 AM
Today is Day 18 of no wine - so far. The no choc challenge is toast, and the cake wasn't really that good. Neither was the chocolate that followed. :( Just not in the mood to be good!

Curly, Happy Birthday! :hb: Today is also Marble's birthday. Sagittarians or Capricorns? I'll have to look it up.

Red, it sounds like you didn't much enjoy your brush with luxury. Surely you'll be paid for the ensuing article? Bummer that they didn't at least find a broom closet with a lumpy futon and a bowl of noodles for you. :kickcan: And hey, they could have made you hitch hike to the station, so what's all the whining about? :lol: I'm pretty lucky, I guess, when I travel with hoity-toity groups I stay in the same places as them, although without the "upgraded" rooms and fancy-schmantzy meals with free booze.
As for Nozomi, she's a doll, and lucky to have found you. Some days I feel there are no coincidences, and that you were meant to walk by her little self at that precise moment, just as I was meant to walk into the Humane Society the day my funny little Lily arrived.
Now Red, you've done a good job ignoring my challenge of your split challenge. So what's the deal? Is it legit to subdivide a challenge after it's underway? Understanding these challenge rules is just too challenging some days! (If I keep using the word "challenge" it'll stop making sense. Try saying it quickly 10 times in a row. Challenge challenge challenge challenge...) :dizzy:

It seems to me several of you are on the verge of completing challenges! Once I put my new instructions (thanks!) into action and try a split screen, I'll be able to scan through and see exactly who, but not right now.

Great news! Swingers clubs are now legal in Canada! :woo: Sometimes I wonder what the rest of the world thinks about us up here in Canada. Silly me! I almost forgot that the rest of the world is so very NOT interested in Canada and it's shenanigans.

Ees, the above "Great news" comment is a sample of tongue-in-cheek, in case you wondered. I'm not into group sex... And Stage, don't get freaked out.

Today I saw the doctor who did my deviated septum surgery. As I expected, I have to go back for a touch-up in the new year, since it's really no better than before the surgery. This time no general anasthetic, at least.

Since I've blown my sweets challenge anyway, I think I might break down and make my Christmas cakes after all. (Don't worry, Red, no recipe. But they are such good cakes even those who hate fruit cake gobble them up.) I make the cakes to give as gifts, but the danger for me is the way the batter seems to mysteriously migrate northwards from the bowl and scrapers...

Nighty-night, sleep tight, don't let those bedbugs bite!

12-22-2005, 12:44 AM
Carla, I'm not ignoring you!!! I was just too busy to say much of anything and wanted to give you a PROPER response...but, since you're antsy....NO, no funny semi pauses...and YES, go ahead and split the challenge. I thought I said that...well, I did, but I guess it wasn't clear. I really don't expect people to listen to me anyhow...Sure, added factors to make a challenge really hard are good...but sometimes we realize we took on too much to handle, so sure, split it then if need be. I try not to do it...but with this last one, I had just started out and thought, well, why not....I hadn't realized your NOT splitting your last challenge meant you had to end it! Yikes! Why didn't you say something...well, I thought you were going to split them..I'm not able to keep track of what people are doing too much...I'm too much of a simpleton! I feel bad about the misunderstanding, so I've got an 'bout you put this challenge on hold, just pause it....and revert back to your old challenge and finish that one up....that should get you there by Xmas, no? Whadya say? We can't have our dear carla feeling bad when she's doing so GOOD!! :spin:

12-22-2005, 12:47 AM
;) Great news about the swingers clubs Carla! Perhaps DH and I will have to visit Canada soon? NOT, well at least not for that reason. :D

Happy Birthday Curly!:woo: Did I miss it being mention somewhere? I can be very obtuse sometimes!

Tongue-in-cheek= I don't mean what I'm saying, but I'm trying to be funny. AT least that's what I think it means?

12-22-2005, 01:31 AM
Dear Carla doesn't feel bad, but she isn't doing so good either. No need to dwell further on the split challenge/semi-pause debate, I think I've got it now. (Although I did briefly consider splitting my chocolate challenge into milk chocolate and semi-sweet chocolate subchallenges :rofl: Just to drive Red nuts.) I think I may just be restarting both challenges after Christmas, I simply don't feel like behaving right now. I still have one vino pause, I think. Gotta check on that...

Today we had a fairly mild (I thought) snowfall, and traffic was almost at a standstill. Of course we're not used to snow here in Canada... (more tongue-in-cheek...). The amazing thing was that at every intersection the drivers were being incredibly considerate and letting people into the flow of traffic! I couldn't believe it - I suspect the return of the body snatchers, and pod people at the wheel of all those eerily polite cars. It would all go so much better if everyone had snow tires on, but as a person who kept driving with a dangerous wheel bearing for the last 6 months, I guess I should just shut up. :o (I thought the noise was from the exhaust. I would have been so surprised if the wheel had fallen off! All repaired now.)


12-22-2005, 03:23 AM
Today is Day 18 of no wine - so far. The no choc challenge is toast, and the cake wasn't really that good. Neither was the chocolate that followed. :( Just not in the mood to be good!

Curly, Happy Birthday! :hb: Today is also Marble's birthday. Sagittarians or Capricorns? I'll have to look it up.

Wow. They are Sags just like me. Interesting why Fire signs have most of weight problems, or is it my statistic that is off....

12-22-2005, 03:28 AM
CBETA, Fire signs with weight problems??! Don't be silly! That's as absurd as carla thinking she's going to "drive me nuts" because she wants to split semisweet and milk chocolate! I mean, really, I think I beat you to it on the crazy part... :crazy:

12-22-2005, 03:30 AM
I did not know someone liked my stories. I actually try to remind myself not to write long posts, but often I want to say so much....
Anyway, called friends trying to find out what to take to Tahoe, but their daughter got sick and they were driving back. They offered to stay in their place in that cabit, but it will not be fun w/o them, so we are not going.
Instead I will vouch to go to the gym tomorrow....On Saturday I will make sure to meet up with friends and have a get gifts really. Russians do gift exchange just like for Chrismas, but at New Years. Yet not everyone does it among friends. Last year my parents bought a tool set for me, as it was something I needed to hang mirrow and pictures at my new apaprtment, this year they gave me a nice present for b-day I really do not feel like comfortable if they give me more presents this year. For sister and grandma, I've not planned anything, and for a few friends locally....well I bought electric tea-pot for close friends...that's all.
I've been feeling in doubt. Tomorrow, day before shutdown, will be an ultimatelly crazy day for me. So many things need to be completed before I leave..I am sure I am going to be at work late...
My simple resolution for the next week or so, be at the gym at least once every two days.... I think I can manage the food intake and water, but gym is what I need...

12-22-2005, 03:31 AM
CBETA, Fire signs with weight problems??! Don't be silly!
are you a fire sign?

12-22-2005, 03:37 AM
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Come on, now, you CAN'T say it doesn't show!! :rofl:

12-22-2005, 03:38 AM
isn't it strange?
fire burns all in it's way, but we fire sings have such a hard time burning?

12-22-2005, 03:40 AM
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

red, what's "big 8/8 CB"...not sure what the abbreviation stand for?

12-22-2005, 03:40 AM
I'm a capricorn, what does that make me?

12-22-2005, 03:41 AM
"Hard time burning?!?!" No way. The only thing I have a hard time burning is all the fat because I keep shoveling in the fuel like I was stoking the burners for a flight to the moon! :lol3:

12-22-2005, 03:43 AM
CB is you, dear CBETA! 8/8 was my debut to this world!

And stage, that makes you a stable Earth sign. Those Cappies just work their way along, slowly but surely, getting better every year!

12-22-2005, 03:46 AM
8/8 - you've got to be kidding me. That gymnast friend I was telling you about, thin and eating aftere 9......
Her b-day is on 8/8!


Stage, ..dont' tell me your b-day on Dec 26 or Dec31 or it?

12-22-2005, 03:46 AM
I thought I was an earth sign, but I wasn't sure. I think I need to look into astrology more. My birthday is 1/13, it's on a Friday this year!

12-22-2005, 03:48 AM
"Hard time burning?!?!" No way. The only thing I have a hard time burning is all the fat because I keep shoveling in the fuel like I was stoking the burners for a flight to the moon! :lol3:
you are right... it must be all of that excess fuel. Interestingly enough, even the choices I make in life follow the same thought... buy it now, or save it for later and buy again later.. excess is better than lack of there off.... hmm something to ponder.

12-22-2005, 03:53 AM
Well, CB, (that's you! I abbreviate everything) it just shows I gotta fire those engines more instead of just dumping fuel into 'em! Our minds and bodies are still programmed to deal with lack and to SURVIVE. We think we will always have access to food but our bodies and minds are not really convinced. Well, I mean, heck, we may not, BUT, I think the chances are pretty good. I think the only way around this "Great Depression" mentality (althought you're too young for that and not from the right country, though I guess Russia had its share of lack...) is to just NOT think about it and NOT care about caution. Yes!! Fling caution to the wind!! CARPA DIEM. Live like you were mortal.... ;)

And, CB, you can read more things about people (like birthdates..and I mean this nicely) if you click on their name, release, a menu pops up, and then go to "view public profile." Some people have written things, others like to remain anonymous. Check it out.

12-22-2005, 03:57 AM
Well, CB, (that's you! I abbreviate everything) it just shows I gotta fire those engines more instead of just dumping fuel into 'em! Our minds and bodies are still programmed to deal with lack and to SURVIVE. We think we will always have access to food but our bodies and minds are not really convinced. Well, I mean, heck, we may not, BUT, I think the chances are pretty good. I think the only way around this "Great Depression" mentality (althought you're too young for that and not from the right country, though I guess Russia had its share of lack...) is to just NOT think about it and NOT care about caution. Yes!! Fling caution to the wind!! Live like you were mortal.... ;)
That's true, Russia had it's own depression and most russians are somewhat pessimistic... as many promisess are given daily, but never anyting changes.... (joke always is "they promissed it will be a bright future and it will get better, they just forgot to mention, when and for whom"... I do know about US Great Depression. I did go to High School and Univ. here... but reality is sometimes it gets the better of me...

12-22-2005, 04:04 AM
CB, that was not meant as a remark on your knowledge. A "Great Depression mentality" is something that people like my grandparents, who actually went through the Depression, got and could never really get over. It caused them to like store dollar bills in their mattresses and things like that, just in case the banks went under again....yes, like you said, just being pessimistic AND overly cautious...which, if you really thought about, we could take like this...think of every meal as being your last for a you want to make it a can of soda or an apple (or other healthy calorie equivalent)? Or, you could say, do I want to risk getting diabetes when I may not be able to get medical care or be able to pay for it? Better to get healthy and fit. Sounds like the best insurance to me, right?

12-22-2005, 04:11 AM
Okay, I am determined to make a dent in my room and get my exercise bike (at least one of them) set up and ready to roll. I blew off the gym today because I thought I would go very early tomorrow...THEN I realized tomorrow is a holiday here (Emperor's birthday) and now I can't go at all because they open late and I have to be at work.....darn! So, I am determined to work up a good sweat on the bike...IF I can get it set up tonight! Wish me luck! :ebike:

12-22-2005, 04:23 AM
Red, I have confidence, that you can setup your bike AND work up that sweat you've talked about...if not I would hope you are not going to take a Pause day and you will find someother means of exercising.
(I had a girl at work once, she lost 50 pounds. How? she was embarassed, so she would run up and down the staircase for an hour just to work out....)
I trust you....

p.s. I am a newby here and until today I did not know you were a journalist, could you tell more about that job. I am curious to know what you do...(if you do not mind me asking)

Have a good day... I am off to bed.

12-22-2005, 05:09 AM
CBETA -- Thank you! :hug: for your vote of confidence. I just moved some stuff around. I COULD set the one bike up in the kitchen as a temporary measure, just, well, because I SAID I would get it set up and I WILL. I am annoyed that I forgot about the gym opening late tomorrow because I really did want to get a workout in and had my gym gear to go directly after riding today, then didn't because I thought I would do it tomorrow. Oh well, if I can get my bike set up again I can get some good fat-burning workouts in. I use a pulse monitor and can push my heartrate up and KEEP it there! :yes: Right now, I'm taking a break because the dust I kicked up is making it hard to breathe and this is where the asthma kicks in if I don't let it settle....I have a very bad allergy to dust, but thank God, NOT anything in a barn, hay, fur, or hair. I can hug my cats and horse! :dizzy:

Actually, CB, my pause day would be for the crunches only, which I WILL do. The exercise is just something I always do and need to do more of to get this excess burned off. Sure wish I had excess in my bank account! Stair running is fantastic exercise and would knock most people out just to walk up.

Tonight is the office yearend party and I am NOT going. There is no way I could go and NOT drink beer and it would probably end up as a LOT of beer and I just can't be bothered to go in there on a day when I'm not scheduled to be there. I'm thinking of all the calories I'll save and I won't risk making a scene, a fool of myself....again! :dancer:

Well, there's not that much to say about my work. I do a lot of different things, but my best is writing...not that you would know it from the drivel I come out with here, eh?! ;) I used to do the assigned work, where I had to interview anyone they told me to. At the time I was on the features desk. It was interesting but you have to do a lot of research just to be able to ask halfway intelligent questions. Sure, meeting celebrities and all is cool but it wears off, unless you are into living vicariously. I preferred to go deep instead of shallow and wide and thus concentrated on horseracing. So, I have that as kind of a niche here now. All my writing is freelance now as the work I do at the paper 3x week is editing, headline, caption writing, page layout. But I get asked to write stories still, especially things like this recent ski resort trip, which is PR work for the ad department, stuff most people hate and journalists who think the word only means going for the Pulitzer, debating politics, muckracking and otherwise changing the world in big ways are loathe to do. I do it because I can and I need the money. I really should work on my writing, getting published more, set goals, become more knowledgeable...:lol: I like interviewing people, getting inside their heads, their beings, finding out what makes them tick and letting other people (the reader) know so perhaps he or she can learn from it. This is my forte I would say, if I were asked if I had any. I especially like talking to people who excel in their areas and have talked with a lot, mostly athletes, but also musicians, film directors and such. I should do more writing. There's not that much money in it and like I said, you start realizing people are people and there's not that much new that is going to come out of them. Gotta go where the money is...wish I knew....

Hmm, what else? What do you want to know? Anything in particular? About writing, interviewing, getting stories or so or are you just being curious?

Well, OK, sorry to bother any others with this long post. I probably should PM it. Okay, back to the dent-making.

12-22-2005, 07:48 AM
lol thanks u guys but my birthday is oct 14th ... I'm a libra :)

12-22-2005, 10:08 AM
Oooh! Curly, I'm 15 October!

12-22-2005, 10:45 AM
Wow, y'all went crazy with the posting last night!

Let's see, I am still at day 1. I worked 12 hours straight and by the time I got home I couldn't even talk myself into doing yoga. I stood and stared at my yoga mat for about 10 minutes until DH gently led me to the sofa and gave me a cup of soup. I managed to eat a little more yesterday, but still not very much (just over 1000 calories). Today should be much better. All the rush-rush is out of the way because most of the partners I work with are out of the office today and tomorrow. All I know is I am going to the gym today, OR ELSE!!! Two days in a row with no work out makes Michell a grumpy girl!:mad:

And stage, that makes you a stable Earth sign. Those Cappies just work their way along, slowly but surely, getting better every year!

StageMom - I am also a Capricorn! Jan. 4th is my day - i can't believe i am going to be 36 years old - hey! I hear it's the new 18 (or maybe 40 is the new 20? I get confused:dizzy: ) Red is precisely right (of course :D ) about the dogged determination of us Capricorns. If we decide to do something, it may take a while, but it will get done.

Okay - so it wasn't Curly's birthday, but it is Marble's? Happy Birthday to someone, anyone! let's have some cake:devil:

12-22-2005, 11:03 AM
Oops, Curly, I think I'm the guilty party. I misread your post and thought "birthday" where you had clearly written "Christmas" party. :doh: Even dumber, since I'm a Libra too and we had this conversation back in October.

Stage, you're not only a Capricorn, if I'm not mistaken (again), you're a victorious Capricorn on the last day of your chocolate challenge? :woo::woo::woo:

12-22-2005, 11:07 AM
hey thats ok... i can go for a slice of cyber cake anytime!!... my bf's birthday is jan 5th so he is a capricorn(work aholics)

12-22-2005, 01:28 PM
Day 6 completed! Mmmmmmmm there were some yummy looking no bake cookies, but then I'd have to take a pause day, so I passed them up. Thank goodness for this thread! Today is day 7.

12-22-2005, 01:34 PM
Good Morning! Yes I'm on my last day of my No Chocolate challenge! Tomorrow I think I'm going to have one of my *food porn to follow, do not read if you will be tempted *

*food porn*chocolate p.butter balls*food porn*

that I stashed for breakfast!

12-22-2005, 04:42 PM
Hmmm in looking up astrology stuff I've found that I'm suppose to be compatible with Taurus and Virgo. My DH is a Pisces, do you think this is a problem? *tongue a little in cheek*

12-22-2005, 05:28 PM
Good morning, all. Just figured out where I was on my challenges. Yesterday I took another pause day, intentionally, with the caffeine, so that leaves me one left. Was feeling too tired and wanted a lift. So today, at the start of the day, I stand at Day 5 done for caffeine, Day 7 done for crunches. I have yet to take a pause day for the crunches! :yes: I just may be able to get to the gym tonight. I learned we have another ridiculously early deadline today, and I will leave the place right after. No one to distract me out drinking as they'll all surely be dreadfully hungover from last night's party. Maybe I can get a bit of a workout in after all! We'll see.

Good luck on all your challenges.


Sushi Penguin
12-22-2005, 05:54 PM
Here I am...
Haven't done any running over the last 2 days. I was dog tired after work on Wednesday, but no idea what the reason was yesterday... so I'm either on Day 4 still, or will be starting over... Don't want to be starting over! I'll have a look at my calendar, to see if there are any obstacles looming in the near future, if not, then I'll just continue.

12-22-2005, 05:58 PM
Morning all,

Since my challenges are down the drain, and are not going to be resurrected until I get back from Adelaide, I thought I would just pop in and see what you have all been up to. Busy, busy I see.

It's been a hectic week so I haven't posted regularly. I guess everyone is feeling the same way - I'm so over the 'festive season' and the heat and the crowds. I'm now waiting for next week when I can get some good food back in the house and start eating properly again. Our weather is predicted to be hot and sunny for Christmas Day 37C (104F) and 36C and storming for Boxing Day. What fun. I should check out Adelaides weather since that is where I will be for the next few days. It can get stinking hot down there too.

Fish - I do like that menu for your Christmas dinner. I think I might like to try the Champagne soup myself. Maybe at my New years bbq. Soup at a bbq? Well why not. It will no doubt be hot AGAIN.
And I see your birthday is the same day as my DS2. Nice people Capricorns. I get on well with them since I am Taurus - another earth sign.

Curly - you are dead right about Capricornians being workaholics. My DS2 is 4th January, holds down 2 jobs, gets something like 4 or 5 hours sleep per night six nights a week. Has a GF and an active social life - when he is not asleep. For relaxation he is renovating his house and garden. Huh???

Red, did I gather right that you did not party on last night? No bad headaches or anything. If that is the case, well done. Good luck on making the gym today. You can do it.

Don't have a great deal of time this morning so I won't reply individually to all. Sorry. You all seem to be doing well on the challenges.

So :wave: to stage, curly, ID, Phys, CBETA, ees, Carla, Marble, Mez (if you are lurking), Apple and huge apologies to those I haven't mentioned

I probably won't get near a computer for a couple of days from tomorrow (Saturday) so I'll take this opportunity to wish you all the best for a grand and happy Christmas, be it with loved ones, on the bowling alley, in the snow or cruisin' along or if you happen to be in Japan, working. I hope that you all have a wonderful, wonderful day. The good lord willing and the rivers don't rise (huh! with this heat one can only wish!).

12-22-2005, 06:44 PM
Sushi -- Good to see you back. Hope you're still rolling along on the challenge. Do you still have pause days, or is that why you're looking for obstacles, to see if you would rather just start over? Perhaps you could expand your definition of "running" to include some other exercise that would get your heartrate up (such as stair climbing) that you could do during the day when you're busy. I know when the exercise is limited to machines and other apparatuses it makes it harder to do when you get busy.

Shad -- Glad you could pop in. Are you in Adelaide now? Guy at work is from there. I think you're perhaps the only one in the Southern Hemisphere, so the "heat" of the holiday season is not a factor for the rest of us. Wow. Looks like you've got really hot days in store for you! Sending you cool thoughts.....

I don't even have the holiday season to worry about. Sure, O-shogatsu is busy here for the Japanese but not me. I'll be at work on New Year's Eve and the second. And we don't even get any extra pay. I really can't think of it because it ticks me off too much. Which is one of the reasons I, yes, did NOT go to the party last night. It's really the last place I want to be when I'm trying to have a good time. There is nothing anymore to chat and be optimistic and cheery about at that office and I'm not stupid enough to go chugging down alcohol just because it's free.

I think I may have hit a little mental breakthrough! It's too soon to say and I realize I am going to have to keep reminding myself, but yesterday, something just seemed to click with me. I just starting thinking, what am I waiting for? Why do I keep putting off the weight loss? I know HOW to do it. What am I waiting for? I think it was a combination of really riding my horse and seeing results! (she'll respond to what I do but no more, which means I have to be extremely proactive) :yes: and saying no to things like office parties, places I don't really want to be, doing things I don't really want to be was like, heh, yeah, I don't like the excess fat on me. What am I doing with it? Get it off! Instead of going out in search of sweets and junk, I had a sweet potato, went to bed hungry after doing my crunches but thought, well, this is what it takes. DO what it takes! Let's hope I can continue this feeling. It feels so neat, so resolved, so sensible!

Thanks for the pat on the back on the non-drinking and the word of encouragement for the gym tonight. I think I should be able to go.

Here's wishing you a Merry Christmas too! I will be at the racetrack, but not putting any bets down, just hoping for a good race. Take care! :wave:

12-22-2005, 06:53 PM
Now I am still in Brisbane, just wishing away the hours till tomorrows flight.

12-22-2005, 08:24 PM
No Desserts/Treats Day 8

No Chocolate Day 20

Ummmm, hanging head and blushing!!! Pause day for both of those!

12-22-2005, 09:02 PM
day 17>>>> 1278 calories

ummm carla will our next challenge involve Gazelles???

12-22-2005, 09:42 PM
Hey Everyone!

Day4/21 - Abs - the first 10 crunches I thought, "hey this getting easier!" but closer to the end I did NOT feel that way at all!! :p
Day 6/21 - under 1800

Joy - You really have travelled a lot!! I was checking out all of the places you have been... England, Japan, New Zealand (but you are from New Zealand, right?), Scotland, Chicago... that's so cool!! I love to travel but get to do it as much as I would like!

Only one more day Stage!!! You can do it!!! :cheer:

:woo: Happy Birthday Marble!! :woo:

Carla - So why do people say, "tongue and cheek"? Now I understand what it is, thanks! What does the phrase mean? :p I used to obsess over figuring out phrases like that... Like "with bells on" (people used to say that back when they travelled by horse and carriage... so if the carriage would be wearing bells, it would announce their arrival) and "worth your while" (that should be obvious, but I always thought it was "worth your wild" so that one took me a while).

CBETA - Hey! What are the Russian New Year's traditions for Christmas and New Years?

Red - I have a question for you about your profession! What kinds of things to you write about in your racing articles? And... I still don't get why that hotel wouldn't feed you if that was a PR visit! Sheesh!

Good night all!! Hopefully I will get to write tomorrow... otherwise I probably won't come by until Monday - unless I need some motivation to stick to my challenges over the weekend!


12-22-2005, 11:46 PM
ees -- It's "tongue IN cheek" Tongue AND cheek is, I think, involved in some of the more advanced positions of the Kama Sutra or at some of the sleazier strip clubs ... :lol3:

I write about the race in the racing articles! Like any sporting event, how it went, how the race unfolded, the finising positions, the comments from connections. Others stories can be news items or interviews with top people in the industry... here's a sample story from The Bloodhorse (an American racing magazine that I write for). This is not my story but it is similar to ones I do.

Yeah, as for the ski resort thing, reports for PR are often like that. They must figure the money they spent for the ad is all they need to do, but like Shad said, how can I get a feel for the place if I don't feel it myself. Just walking around being told what is done is stupid. In all fairness, I did get one meal the night I arrived, but the next day was the tiring day and nothing then. And then, after four hours, it was like, "ok, we're done talking to you...bye!" It was only because I said, "can you take me to the station" that it seemed to occur to them. I could have said, "Feed me!" and "Give me one of those hot-oil massages and a facial" but I doubt they would have obliged. Besides, I had a long trip home and just wanted to get out. I figure I'm not going to be able to go into any detail anyhow....oh well. Japanese are not good at dealing with the media, from what I've seen, and I've seen a lot. They don't seem to know what speaks to readers, mostly because the writing here is not very good and you don't get nice PR pieces, they all come across as blatant ads.

Apple Blossom
12-23-2005, 02:36 AM
Day 20 SWN and I have only an hour and a half left of today to make it 21! Wouldn't it be terrible to mess up on day 21. As soon as I am done posting I will do my sit ups and weights. (Don't get distracted, DON'T GET DISTRACTED)
Red, I hope your JUST DO IT feeling sticks with you for as long as it takes. I'm waiting for that lightning bolt myself....
Went shopping for myself yesterday, I desperately needed new pants after wearing out the knees in one pair and spliting the seam of another...:o
I hate spending money on clothes I fully intend to shrink out of, but it's not happening. Pants shopping has to be the #1 most depressing shopping activity for me.:p I had terrible negative self esteem last night...I weighed myself with clothes on earlier todayand the news was not good...:kickcan:
But it will all turn around! I must end on a positive note! Tomorrow is anither day! And I'm about to finish a challenge! :encore: See you all tomorrow!!

12-23-2005, 10:23 AM
Oy! I managed to make yesterday an actual day 1. I did 30 minutes on my elliptical after I got home at 9 - but before I ate some dinner. I knew if i ate first, I would not work out, so i went ahead and did the elliptical even though I had eaten only breakfast and an apple. I just ate a little dinner, because I was feeling sort of ill, but then at about 11 I was still ravenous, so I toasted up a slice of bread with cheese and salami. Still ended up at only 1141 for the day. maybe my stomach is shrinking. It could shrink on the outside as well as the inside, that would be nice! More likely i'm just tired and grumpy and even eating is too much effort.

So, Apple? Did you make it through day 21? I am sure you did!!!

Stagemom, you are close to 21 on your chocolate as well - one more day, you can do it!

Talk to you all later!

12-23-2005, 10:40 AM
Today is day 19 on my no soda challenge! :carrot: :carrot:

I haven't decided what to do on my next challenge. Hmmmm, I'll let you know.

Merry Christmas!


12-23-2005, 11:51 AM
Ive been getting my jeans and tops from the thrift stores... no use in spending a bunch of money on clothes that i plan to shrink out of...

12-23-2005, 01:16 PM
Day 19 of no wine completed yesterday. As for chocolate, since abandonong the no-choc challenge I've been wallowing in a vat of sweets, trying to see how quickly I can get back to 200. :( The next challenge will have to start on the 27th, I think. New Year's is not a prob for me, as I have no sweetheart :cry: and no family excesses planned. The last of the parties is on the 28th.

Another mag (First) has done an article on the 3-day fruit diet. I think it's a sign that I should do a quick fast between Xmas and New Year's, just to get rid of this silly bloat before it moves the rest of it's lumpy family in. So, Apple, wanna plan to do it together? The mag is in the supermarkets now, it's one of those weekly ones, sort of a tabloid but not gossip. It has a 3-day menu in it.

Oops. Back later.

Apple Blossom
12-23-2005, 01:52 PM
OK, Carla, you're on. Just let me know when you want to start, since you have that long as it's over by the 31st. New Years eve is a big munch fest for us. We don't have a big meal but there are appetizers all over the place!! I will have to be under control but a fruit fast on that day is out of the question!!!:hat:
I finished the challenge! And I plan on keeping the sit ups and weights going but I don't have to do them EVERY DAY anymore.
I have to think up something really good for my next challenge. Probably looking at a calorie limit and another walking challenge....
Might not post for the next few days, although I might check in to stay in touch. Happy Holidays everyone!!!:xcheer: :han: :ginger: :clause:

12-23-2005, 02:12 PM
For those wondering about tongue-in-cheek, there's an explanation at Wikipedia, including the origin.

Apple, it may have to wait until the 1st - which will give you plenty of time to acquire the mag. There's also a website I'll check out - if it's any good I'll PM it to you. I'll still be at my wicked SM's on the 26th, so can't start then (not worth the grief explaining it, being mocked, etc). And I have the party on the 28th or 29th, and you have the 31st.... The article claims a 9 pound loss, so I think 2 or 3 lbs is reasonable, as long as I get back on my doctor's diet right after and stay there.


:carrot: :carrot: :dancer: :dancer: :woo: :woo: :hat: :cp: :cp: :dance: :bravo: :bravo: :dance: :cp: :cp: :hat: :woo: :woo: :dancer: :dancer::carrot: :carrot:

12-23-2005, 02:38 PM
Champeens indeed.

Big yahoo to Stage and Apple.

:carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug: :carrot: :cheer: :hug:

Can't stop, got a lot of things on the go until I go to the airport this afternoon.

Wishing you all a safe, warm, happy and fun filled Christmas.
:gift2: :ginger: :xcheer: :hohoho: :gift2: :ginger: :xcheer: :hohoho: :gift2: :ginger: :xcheer: :hohoho:

12-23-2005, 03:56 PM
Busy. Busy. No time to catch up. Just wanted to say a big Congratulations to Apple and stage for completing your challenges!! :cp: :woo: :cp: Apple, just want to say I'm especially proud of you for not giving in despite other stress! :yes: I think a calorie limit may help you knock the weight off, but I would keep it HIGH and very doable so you don't just set yourself for failure, especially if you're feeling blue. Hope you get that new cat soon. There are SO many who need you desperately!

I can report another day notched on both my challenges, which means Day 6 on caff, Day 8 on crunches are done!! Hurrah! :sunny:

:tree: :ginger: :tree:

12-23-2005, 06:31 PM
Day 7--pause day...cold stone ice cream got the best of me! Shoot!!! But today I'm back at it day 7 again...this time it will be better!

12-24-2005, 02:08 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 9

No Chocolate Day 21 :carrot: I actually finished day 21 today! ;)

12-24-2005, 02:30 AM
12/23------ 1267 calories total gym- 1.25 hrs

:cheer: apple & stage :cheer: way to go!!!!!

12-24-2005, 03:22 AM
ID, stage, curly, way to go!! So, stage, we got you a day early. Just taking our cue from carla there.
vanessa, where you hiding?
Everyone else, I've just been too busy to catch up. Hope you're all doing well. derry, where are you?

Sushi Penguin
12-24-2005, 05:28 AM
Okay... I blew my second running challenge. It was more or less of a decision, though two "pause days" in a row are at the core. I'm just trying to upload some photos into an online photo album, and it's not working and driving me nuts...

I'll be re-starting the running challenge after Christmas, and a second one as well. And no, the running challenge is about running, so I won't be expanding here. Any other exercise would be just as difficult to fit in - for running, all I need is to put workout clothes on and go for a walk. I don't really have opportunities to exercise here, other than the hateful stationary bike, but that's my other challenge.

Anyhow, hope everyone is having a great Christmas! :cb: :cheer:

12-24-2005, 07:09 AM
Ok, all, I'm calling this a day. I'm taking a pause day on the crunches, just because I haven't yet and I just want a break. Caffeine is okay, so Day 7 done on caff, Day 8 holding on crunches.

It's Christmas Eve here and I had a long time. Got to ride then rushed in to the office for a shift. Big race tomorrow and I'll be reporting from the track. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas!! :clause:

12-24-2005, 08:25 AM
Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to all the challengers!!

Thank you all for all your support & help on my journey this year....... We will work even harder next year!!!!

LMAO might even dust off the Gazelle!!!

12-24-2005, 12:41 PM
It's Christmas Eve, and the kids are not the only ones excited in my house! We have two family functions to get through today, they should be fun though.

12-24-2005, 03:54 PM
It's around noon. I am here to tell the truth. I blew my other two challenges yesterday. Hmm interesting thing though I found that it's harderst to keep up with water and dinner during the weekend. I almost have to not go see friends if I want it done properly. It's hard, though. I think my next start approach will be to not waste days during the week no matter what happends. This would mean I need to have something ready so that in the case I am late off work I can eat it right at work, rather than cooking it home.
I am planning to restart the challenges tomorrow or on Monday, but I know 31st will be the toughtest day to manage.
Happy Holidays.

12-24-2005, 09:00 PM
Hi Folks! Wow, Note to self: do not wait a few days before checking posts on 21 day challenge thread! Boyo I thought I would never catch up. I just want to check in quickly and say I am still here and rooting for everyone who is still on the wagon! I am restarting challenges after the holidays as there is just too much going on here and keeping myself from going completely insane is enough of a challenge during the holiday season! :) HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!!!! We are doing family gift exchange tomorrow and then various other forms of family togetherness, so I may not get to post again for a few days, but I am still here in spirit!!

Keep on Truckin!
Erin :carrot:

12-24-2005, 11:53 PM
At last, another little smilie for a completed challenge. :carrot: :carrot: I survived Xmas eve with the dreaded SM - and without wine. To be honest, there's a very slight chance I've lost track of a day somewhere and am really only on Day 20 today, BUT I'm taking the credit anyway, since I did actually get to Day 22 no wine last time when I thought I couldn't split my challenge. (It's all too complicated, but I'm pretty sure I had Red's approval on this one.)

The chocolate/sweets/junk food situation has, however, been downright embarassing. :p So I think I'll either be back to challenges on Tuesday or else after the last party of the year on the 28th (29th?). There'll be the fruit fast with Apple, maybe a Gazelle challenge with Curly?, a return to spinning... maybe I'll even start doing the little 20-min Strong Women Stay Slim (?) weight workout. Whoa Nellie! Is Carla setting herself up for failure again or is she setting herself up for failure! No, I won't try to do it all at once. But it's really time to get started exercising again.

Right now I'm tucked into my slightly seedy little hotel bed, missing my cats and winding down from a long day. The weather has been very warm - above freezing - so the drive down here was good, easy and fast. The Weather Channel is threatening rain/snow. I just hope it'll hold off until I get home on Monday, I hate driving in winter.

The wicked SM situation has been better than expected. In fact, I've noticed that the more I dread it and talk about the impending horror, the easier it all is in reality. :shrug: She even remarked on my weight loss, so all is forgiven. It'll never be a fun or relaxing experience, but all I need to do is put on my big girl panties and stop whining, and it's not so bad. Enough on that.

Reading back a little, I see a few blown challenges reported - and some suspicious silences. :lol: No matter, tomorrow is another day, and Monday is an even better day for starting anew. It doesn't hurt to "cheat" or fall off the wagon from time to time. The important part is to NOT let that cheating or falling become a habit. (Lecture to self...)

Red, does it bother you working on Christmas Day? I'm not sentimental about it myself, and would probably spend the day cleaning or something if I were at home. I haven't mentioned it, but :bravo: for staying away from boozy parties with people you don't really care for. Will you be drummed out of the journalists' union for passing up free beer? :lol3:
Here's a stupid question for you: I know you do dressage. Is what you do sort of like the Lippanzer horses? I know yours isn't a stallion, isn't white, and doesn't do line dancing, but are the moves similar? I'm trying to get a mental image.

Finally, I'd like to wish a very, very merry Christmas and/or Hannukah to you all: Red, Shad, Curly, Marble, Apple, Fish, Derry, ees, CBETA, Sushi, Stage, ID, Chai, Mez (if you're lurking out there, you're in our hearts and thoughts) - and anyone I've forgotten :o I'm very grateful to my entire cyber-family for their support, patience, entertainment, and affection. My life is richer for knowing you. :grouphug:

Enough sentimentality! Some one call the schmaltz police! Enjoy tomorrow, and here's hoping Santa is kind to you. :hug: :hug: :hug: :wave:

12-25-2005, 03:04 AM
No Desserts/Treats Day 9 *PAUSE*

12-25-2005, 03:22 AM
Finally, I'd like to wish a very, very merry Christmas and/or Hannukah to you all: Red, Shad, Curly, Marble, Apple, Fish, Derry, ees, CBETA, Sushi, Stage, ID, Chai, Mez (if you're lurking out there, you're in our hearts and thoughts) - and anyone I've forgotten :o I'm very grateful to my entire cyber-family for their support, patience, entertainment, and affection. My life is richer for knowing you. :grouphug:

PPKS which in translation means " will sign under every word of foresaid" and Happy Holidays to you Carla

12-25-2005, 09:10 AM
Hello everyone and Merry Christmas! whatever your religious affiliations. I REALLY don't understand the hubbub about not being able to wish people a Merry Christmas! If the Japanese and Thai and Cambodians can do it, then anyone can. It's about so much MORE than the birth of Christ, and heck, even if it wasn't, I think we can all take part in other people's holidays!!

Ok, I'm back from the racetrack and two beers with some acquaintances. It was a good race, though the horse I (and about 160,000 people at the track today) wanted to win didn't. Still, a French jockey riding here won and I was able to wish him Merry Christmas, saying "that certainly was a great Christmas present." Then I met up with some university prof and he invited me out for a few beers. Everyone just laughs when I say, "Merry Christmas" because it's not on Japanese minds at all...though there are Christmas decorations up and all. Anyhow, I am taking another pause on the crunches just because I was super busy today and forgot to do them before I left for the track and I don't feel like doing them now. The caffeine was okay, so my challenges are together again. 8 and 8 now, I'm pretty sure.

Ok, gotta get some shuteye. Up to ride super early tomorrow, then for the racing writers semiannual meeting and yearend party tomorrow.

To all, a good night! chai, curly, carla, CB thanks for the wishes. Ditto carla's little schmaltz there! :yes: :grouphug: And, no, carla, I don't mind working at all. I prefer it. I DO like to do something special, something for me, and a big yearend finale race like the one today is perfect. I wish it was on Christmas Day every year. I would not have liked to sit in the office and do a shift there though. No, I don't mind "working" but it's gotta be a bit special in some way. And no, the union people are overjoyed that I was not soaking up their beer, leaving all the more for them. And yes, Lippizaners like the ones in the Vienna Spanish Riding School are doing dressage, and very high-level movements. My girl and I are no where near there, but yes, we are in the same stratosphere. I will try to find you a video clip that shows what we aim for. At our level, it's more just good riding, on the bit. Dressage is really about schooling the horse, conditioning its muscles, being in harmony and in unison, from the basics on up. The basics are everything really. The fancy moves all build on that.

To everyone who has made this thread such a hopping success, a big THANK YOU!! I hope to see you all back in the swing of things, those of you who fell out, and continued success and persistence to all you who are still cruising along successfully!

Oh, and carla, I think you are saying that you completed a challenge, right!!?!?! Well, congratulations!! :bravo: :cp: :woo: :encore: :woo: :cp: Well done!!!

12-25-2005, 10:39 AM
december 24th>>>
day 19
Pause day

december 25th calories :( 1703

12-25-2005, 08:43 PM
No Desserts/Treats Day 9 *PAUSE*

I only have one more pause day left for this challenge!

12-26-2005, 10:37 AM
Howdy ya'll :wave:

Yesterday marked the 21st day of my no soda challenge! :carrot: :cb: :dancer: :woo: :cheer: :carrot: :cb: :dancer: :woo: :cheer: :carrot: :cb: :dancer: :woo: :cheer: :carrot: :cb: :dancer: :woo: :cheer:

Christmas Eve and Christmas day were fairly challenging. We had Christmas Eve dinner at my house w/family and of course everyone was drinking soda. But not me :nono: I was drinking unsweetened tea. Then on Christmas Day we went to someone elses house and I took a gatorade because I knew that there would only be soda to drink. :D

Well at least one good thing has come out of this challenge (besides the obvious me drinking no sodas and losing a few pounds) my oldest daughter stopped drinking sodas also. :o

Well I can't decide what to do for my new challenge. I have a couple of ideas, I kind of want to do 2 at the same time but I don't want to over do it.

I'll let you know in a couple of days what I decide to do.

I definitaly want to keep my no soda challenge going forever. Believe me it is a challenge.


12-26-2005, 01:16 PM
Tina- Congratulations on completing your No Soda challenge.:carrot:

I think I may need to repeat my No Soda challenge! It is definetly a hard one though!

12-26-2005, 02:12 PM
Hello Everyone!! Hope y'all had a Merry Christmas! Mine was splendid! I even made it Xmas Eve on 1800 Calories! Paused on Christmas day though :) Paused both days on my tummy routine - yikes! No more pauses left for that one!

Congratulations to Swimming, Carla and everyone else who completed their challenges!!!

Day 8/21 - under 1800
Day5/21 - Abs

That's where I am now :)


12-26-2005, 02:19 PM
:cheer: Tina!! way to go!

Carla: lol i was watchin dr phil today and decided to pull old zellie out i got in 15 min of zellin..

that was enuff cuz i worked out for 1.5 hrs this morning..

12-26-2005, 05:58 PM
Swimming! I must say, your challenge went SWIMMINGLY!!! And at Christmas to boot!
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Curly, Phil is on in 15 min here. I may turn him on (but don't tell Robin! :lol: )although I've already poured and consumed a glass of nice crisp instant white relief, so Zelling may be counterindicated. Then again, it would be a shame to waste your good example...

I'm home from the wicked SM's house, starting recovery. It may take a couple of days before I remember I'm not ALWAYS wrong about EVERYTHING. Grrrr.... I did try to :tape:, but indulged in one or two tiny :tantrum: :tantrum: And now I'm trying not to :bomb: since the whole thing makes me so :mad: Later tonight I'll remember I'm a grownup (in fact a rather old grownup), not a toddler, and I'll calm down. We need a deep-breathing, "ohm" smilie to insert here.

12-26-2005, 06:24 PM
Good morning, all. Already the 27th here. I notched another day on both challenges yesterday, so it's Day 9 done for both caffeine and crunches! :dancer:

carla -- Good luck on your recovery. The best antidote is to get back doing what YOU know will make you feel better, not instantly, but in the long run, right?

curly -- what a workout! Great going! :cp: And way to go on your challenge. I can't believe you're almost done with YET another one! Just two more days. You're amazing!

ees -- Wow! Keeping the challenge going over Christmas, with a well-planned pause day. Excellent work. You can do that abs thing. Just be sure to get them done as soon as possible in the day. I have one more pause day on mine. Almost took it last night, but then didn't because I knew I was just being lazy and didn't want to risk using up my last day either. Go for it!

swimming -- :bravo: You did it! :cp: :encore: :woo: :cp: :woo: Three cheers!! And what fantastic planning that was to get you over some rough spots. That is real challenge spirit. I am impressed! :cp:

stage -- You can do it too! Just plan and think how much you want to notch another completed challenge! :yes:

12-26-2005, 06:55 PM
So did we all have a nice time? And did we all behave? And did we all shed a few tears because it's all over for another 364 days? It seems some of you did. Big CONGRATULATIONS to all those who managed to stay on the wagon. Madcat on my other thread is proposing an Eat Clean Week this week and I shall join her, just to get me back in the swing. More challenges to come after the weekend and new year is over.

I had a nice time in Adelaide. Met so many people it took some time to sort out the various relationships. I sat with Tullah - DS1's g/f Mum and she was talking to everyone - Greek to the SIL's mother, Italian to the woman across the table and English to me. All in the same breath. Every one else talked at once as well, I guess it saved time. The tables groaned with every type of delicacy imaginable. Steak, sausage, chicken kebabs, greek salad, pork, prawns, pasta salad, coleslaw (all with cream based sauces and heavy on the garlic). The prawns had a side dressing of cream, garlic, tomato, brandy. Then there was Almond Torte, Pavlova, Baklava, fruit, cheese, biscuits and of course the drink. Anything from soda to scotch with Retsina, brandy, wine etc in between. And that was just dinner! Supper was yet to follow.
At given times, some one would come out and say have you finished with that cheese platter? and take it away and come out with another, and another. Different cheeses - how can I tempt the palate??? The fruit platter got replenished and we were urged to eat the pav and torte because there is more in the fridge! I think we need a smilie of a stuffed Shad about here. Very nice, very hospitable.
It was a joy to see the DS1 and see where and how he lives. Actually I am not quite sure that this is my kid? He is so neat and tidy! He really does look after his things. Doesn't have a huge amount of stuff, but it is all good stuff - as I would have expected from him.
I got to meet his new ladyfriend and the 20 or so of her immediate family. Let's see there was Tullah the mother, 3 sisters of the G/F, three husbands, at least 2 kids each, one of the husbands Mother and Father, and the sister of the husband, plus her DH. It took a while to work out which sister was attached to which husband and I never worked out the relationship of most of the kids. I'm sure there was more than 6 - or maybe it just seemed that way. That was through dinner and the evening. Others came and went and sometimes I couldn't even tell the difference. The DS1 is happily accepted there and they think he is a wonderful 'boy'. I did like the girlfriend. She is a very bubbly and extroverted lady but has her head screwed on fairly sensibly. He could do a lot worse.

Yesterday early, I went for a run around the neighbourhood. It was pleasant and not too hot. I'd worked up a good sweat when I got back. Later, I took the G/F, Mother and DS1 out to lunch and then we wandered around the city of Adelaide and the botancial gardens until it was time for the plane.

So here I am back in my quiet little space. Well it would be quiet if the cat ever shut up. There are times I swear!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, that's more or less the Christmas tale done for this year. Way past time that I should be dressed and doing something.

As big Arnie said - I'll be back.

12-26-2005, 08:04 PM
day 20>>> calories 1120

12-26-2005, 09:34 PM
Have taken up Curly's challenge, and done 15 very gentle minutes on Zel while watching Phil. Amusing tha it was about people who are always right - I kept expecting to see my SM appear on the screen. Am now considering Shad's Eat Clean week - must read the thread to get the whole concept, but I'm hoping it can wait until tomorrow.

12-27-2005, 02:43 AM
Mine starts tomorrow as well Carla, so we will be eating clean together. I'm now about to plan out some menus for the rest of the week. I'm hoping that that will keep me from the fridge during the day.

Sushi Penguin
12-27-2005, 06:33 AM
It's crazy, I know, but I started two new 21-day challenges today... :dizzy:

Running challenge, level 2 - starting at 10 mins on Day 1 and increasing by 30 sec each day (though I reserve the right not to increase on a day when conditions are not favourable, be it health or weather). I did just over 10 mins tonight.

The other challenge is a level 3 one. It involves no sweets AND at least 10 min on the stationary bike each day, and cannot be split into two.

Day 1 is complete for both! :)

12-27-2005, 06:59 AM
Ok, so many of us are back and as I can see a did great during their time away and are back in the swing of things. I waited and not sure for what, perhaps for the rain to start banging...anyway.

A (will make a Level 3): 3 bottles of water daily
B (Level 3, no food less than 3 hours before bed time and w/o activity. So if I eat at 7:30 and seat doing nothing till 10:30 - it does not count. I must be doing something more useful than sitting at my laptop the entire time, be anything even washing dishes. What I am trying to do, I want to control my time and other aspects of my life)
C (Level 3, any kind of serious activity. Either 1 h gym or walking and such for a prolonged amount of time)

How did I do today?
A(3) H2O - DAY 0 (Dec. 26)
B(3) food - Day 0 (Dec. 26)
C(3) excersize - Day 1 (Dec. 26) Walked for over 3 hours with 1 sitting down at Ikea. Results: Bought NOTHING. Why? not sure, but a friend who planned to get nothing, got 50 bucks worth... ;-o ;-)

I am eager to go to the gym tomorrow and begin again. I missed being respected and cheered.... seriously it is sort of selfish but it is true....

p.s. Shad loved your story about your trip.

12-27-2005, 07:43 AM
Ok, all. Day 10 is done for both challenges! Plan to be up early tomorrow and get to the gym before work for a run and do my crunches early. That's the plan.

CB - "I missed being respected and cheered" :lol: That is too funny. I think you're still respected...yes, we can only do cheering when you impress us. Get in that gym and impress us! :strong: Great going on that walking! I'm not clear on the no food challenge. :?: Are you saying you CAN eat if you do something other than just sit around? Or are you saying you can never eat after 730 AND you must do something other than sit around? :chin:

Sushi -- Heh, nothing crazy about new challenges! You rock! :dizzy: Ok, right reserved, but BE CAREFUL! you don't get lazy and use that as an excuse. Wow! another exercise and no sweet challenge that "cannot be split." Now, that is a toughie! Good luck! :goodluck:

Shad -- Happy planning! No tears for me on Xmas. Just a couple beers after the race AND I was proud to say I could understand a LOT of the jockey's comment. He was speaking French. I studied so much French but never really used it so I can't speak. Would love to spend a few months in France and really get it to be an active knowledge. Your stay in Adelaide sounds great. Glad your son looked well and glad you liked the girlfriend. Wow, what a spread they had there!! :eek:

carla -- Good for you for getting on the Zel. :sunny:

curly -- Excellent! :cp:

Everyone else!? Where are you!? :listen: Come back soon, even for just a shout. The sooner you start back the sooner you can reach your goals! or at least stay in practice with a bit of discipline. It doesn't have to be about food. Fish, vanessa, IDGRL, chaigirl, Phys, marb, Apple, derry, you all doing OK?! trixie, alte, minaaa, you ever going to join us again?


12-27-2005, 08:25 AM
ugggh back to work today.... well on the bright side today will be day 21 for me!!!!!

time to think up a new challenge!

12-27-2005, 11:26 AM
I am back to day 1 again:( I did not do very well over the weekend. I actually did fairly well Saturday (christmas eve) - I exercised, but ate and drank probably around 2000 calories. But Christmas and Monday were just horrible. (I did work out Monday as well, but did not on Christmas). Yesterday I finally went upstairs to lay down around 8:30 just so that I would stop eating. I am being a baby right now and refusing to move my ticker up. Although if I am still heavier after this week I will go ahead and change it. I am hoping the gain is just from too much salt/booze and not enough water/veggies.

It sounds as if everyone else managed to control themselves over the holiday and have a happy christmas, evil in-laws notwithstanding! Congrats to all who finished challenges!!!!

12-27-2005, 12:17 PM
No desserts/treats- day 10

Stealth start- 100 oz of water daily level 1 challenge yesterday was day 1