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12-01-2005, 01:48 AM
Ok we get yet another new start! I know for one that I need it. I have got to get on the ball now. Took me the whole month getting used to being a new mommy again but I know I can do it because I have been doing it.
Let's goooooo!!!!!!!!!!

12-01-2005, 11:18 AM
I agree, Melissa, new month, new start....LET'S GO LADIES :snowball: Think of christmas parties, think of seeing family members and watching their jaws drop! We can do this!

My November results are not as bad as I thought they'd be: down 5 lbs. and 4.5 inches. I lost half an inch from my neck!!!! I have been waiting for that double chin area to go away, and finally it is starting a little.

I not only took off what I gained while in Ohio last week, that water/TOM/cookie weight, but dropped one more. I know being sick yesterday was a player in that, so I have to stay OP so it doesn't jump back up a pound or two. But, I'm taking the loss! I get to WI again tomorrow, since I do it end of month and every Friday, but I'm not expecting anything more to be gone.

:dancer: I get to move my ticker, Yay!


12-01-2005, 11:21 AM
melissa, Logan's freak out was just being in the office, or when kate got there? This can only be good for your case I guess, though I feel sad for the little guy who has to endure all this. I am sure he is confused and holding such uncertainty, but he wants to stay with you that is obvious. Poor fella.


12-01-2005, 12:11 PM
Yay! For moving that ticker down!:carrot: You go girl. I am hoping to be able to get some groceries today-it will all depend on the kids and how they are. I must buy shoes today since their pics are saturday and tomorrow is shot with company and appointments. Michelle said he freaked when they got into the office by the cubicles so I don't know if he had seen Katy yet or not. He had a pretty fitful night too. I was up and down with him all night. He did take a bath in his baby bath last bath day. I noticed that it is just his head that causes him distress. I am wondering if they dumped water over his head to rinse him before. I was just really careful when I noticed it and he took it much better. I am just happy he is home. My goal for this month is to get back OP and stay there! I put back a few pounds and I don't want to go back to where I was before. I can't eat pancakes and top ramen and lose weight-just doesn't work. Ok need to get kids put together and try and get as much done as I can before I lose little people and have to come home.

12-01-2005, 12:51 PM
Melissa- Thanks for starting the new thread.
Theresa- Hope you all recover quickly.
Melissa- did Kate last the whole 2 hours of the visit? As bad as it is, I hope Logan screamed a lot and the CWs documented.

Well a new month means really getting on OP and staying. We need to all do it this month,cause it is a hard month for people like us with food issues.
Perhaps we need to all set out our goals for the month, including the holidays and work to keep those goals. So far I have 2 parties, one breakfast and we will probably go to DIL's mom for Xmas dinner. They are fabulous cooks. He is a culinary graduate and owns a really good diner, so the food is wonderful and they are nice too. In addition, I have to make baklava, my kids most favorite treat and send it to Seattle for my son amd MD, to my daughter. That's going to be real hard to stay out of.
I have to think about how to handle the month.

12-01-2005, 01:03 PM
Michelle said it took about 15 minutes to calm him down and that he was gassy too but I also noticed they had a bottle with juice in it. He is too little for juice so that could have caused it.

I don't have to worry about any parties at all-just christmas eve and christmas day. Christmas eve I have control over since I am doing the cooking. We wake up on the eve like it is christmas morning so that they don't miss anything and they also have the day to play and then the kids go to their prospective other parent or family for the day. I already decided not to bake this year. We really don't need it. I am not sure what I am supposed to bring on christmas day yet. My goal is to get my butt back in gear and get below 200 this month. The treats and things that I usually do for christmas won't apply since I won't be spending the day with Katy and two of my brothers live too far away and I don't think I will be seeing them.

12-01-2005, 02:26 PM
Good Morning Ladies!!
Glad everyone is feeling better at your house Theresa! I hope Ty doesn't get it, its hard on little one's when they don't know what's going on. It just broke my heart when Sam(2 1/2) had those sad eyes everytime he threw up:( Good going on the loss! I lost some when I was sick too.

Melissa-Just to better your case, I was hoping Kate wouldn't show up, too! Maybe she'll get tired of it after a few visits?

Laura-OOOHHHH!!! Baklava :hun: Wish you were my mom!!!!:hug: My mom does NOT bake! I have 3 sisters and she taught us to cook as quick as she could! Good Luck!!!

My main December goal is to get to 222(50 lbs gone) As of this morning I have 5 to go. My smaller goals are to get to Curves 3x/week and drink all my water everyday. I've been really bad about both of these the last couple weeks. Since Christmas dinner is at my house I need to sit down with hubby and make a plan. I know he will be on my side since he has now made the decision to lose weight with me. Hopefully he sticks with me!! He LOVES fruitcake(yuck, yuck, :barf: !!!) but he didn't buy any at WM the other day after he looked at the servings and calories :carrot: !! We're going to check out the gym tomorrow, we'll see how it goes!

Does anyone want to exchange Christmas cards? We are doing it for the second year in another group I'm in and it was fun last year! If you're interested PM me your addresses and I'll make up a list.

Have a great day everyone!!!


12-01-2005, 02:42 PM
It depresses me when I really start to think about all the eating events that take place this month. One of my friends bakes bread each year. It's the best bread ever in the world. They drop it off as soon as it comes out of the oven and we usually rip into it with butter and it's gone so fast.
Maybe it's one day at a time. Who knows?

12-01-2005, 03:52 PM
Next weekend is hubby's Christmas party for his work, which is never fun. Hubby's ex works there and she hates me fiercely, she thinks I "stole" him or something, long story there. But, she is about 300 lbs. and usually I go in feeling insecure and fat and stay away from her, but this year I am going in with a ton more self esteem. I don't care what she says or thinks, I am going and having fun!

The weekend after that is my son's birthday party, and then Christmas the week after that. For some reason Allie gets the entire week after Christmas off school, too bad we still have to pay the entire amount for the month, not quite fair in my mind.

I have not decided on Christmas yet. I wanted to send hubby and kids to MILs on the eve, and cook here for us on Christmas day, but it would feel more like Christmas if I just went to MILs on the day I guess. I don't even know how to cook a Christmas dinner, so it might be smart to let MIL and mawmaw do it anyway :lol:

I haven't sent goals beyond the weight goal because I don't know what to do for this month. I'm going to be unbelievably busy getting the birthday and christmas done. I just want to get some sort of exercise in every day, maybe that should be my only goal...I don't know!


12-01-2005, 04:28 PM
Happy December everyone!

I echo Kathy ! I LOVE baklava-:hungry: But to my hubby's dismay I can't make it to save my life so he only gets it when we go to a greek place to eat.

It seems holidays and eating go hand in hand-like they are combined and you can't have fun without eating. I have 4 dinners and 3 parties this year. 3 of the dinners will be good as everyone involved brings a couple dishes and I can bring salads or make something lower in calories and fat. 1 dinner may be bad but i am planning on eating very low points that morning and taking small portions of what is offered. Of course i may blow it but it's only 1 meal so it won't be the end of the world. 1 party will be rough but i will take a veggie platter and eat before i go- the other party is just drinks and since i don't drink it'll be ok. They'll have seltzer for me and they always have popcorn and veggies to nibble so that'll be ok.

I think my main goal this December is to just maintain my habits i have now and not slip back into drinking soda and eating the wrong foods. I do need to exercise- I am in fear of getting whacked again :lol:
I am telling Santa what i really want for christmas is to hit in the 150's before 2006.- :gift2: Santa will probably tell me to exercise more and really pay attention to eating :p
I will think about an exercise goal for December- I don't want to make it too hard but hard enough so it's a challenge or else i'll blow it off.

I will be baking- after spending hours baking I have NO desire to eat any of it! hubby and zach are my taste testers so i won't nibble anyway. i found a really good recipe for banana muffins for diabetics made w/o oil and sugar i am going to try them tonight and see if they are any good.

12-01-2005, 05:10 PM
While disinfecting the house (hoping Ty and Steve will escape the tummy bug), I decided I will not make an overall December goal and will just make weekly goals, that way I can take into account the extra things happening every week and make reasonable goals. I don't know what the first one is yet, but figure I'll have it by Sunday night to focus on for Monday. Until then, I have to get us back on schedule again. Allie just now went down for her nap, but she HAD to do it or I was going to snap on her! There just comes that point, ya know?

Okay, it's my exercise time, so I'll check back later gals!


12-01-2005, 09:07 PM
I like Theresa's idea of weekly goals. Sometimes when I know lots of parties etc are coming up, I blow it in advance, so weekly goals is a good idea.
Sandi's is also on a good track. Let's help each other!

12-01-2005, 09:23 PM
Theresa -I like your idea of a weekly goal- seems to make things easier than attempting a whole month of one major goal.
is it ok if i borrow your idea ?? :^:

Jocie was sent home from school cause for her cough- she is so croupy and nothing seems to work. the old fashioned vicks and hot tea and honey seems to help a bit but not enough. The Dr. says well she doesn't have an infection so they can't help and cough syrup doesn't help. I get so mad and feel helpless when a little one is sick and there's nothing to help.

I have 2 buttons to sew on a uniform, dishes and 1 load of laundry to do :(
if i ever have lots of $$ I am hiring a helper to do stuff i don't wanna do.

i am going to set a goal of this week (i'm gonna go Thursday to Thursday) to exercise 4 times for 30 minutes, drink my water and watch PORTION sizes.

This weekend is crazed with 2 cantata practices and Sunday is the Bringing of the Green and somehow I get roped into helping to organize it all. I am not quite sure how that happened - next week (the 11th ) is the big production lots of stuff to keep straight.
I am off to attempt to sew a button- (my idea of sewing is tape or a staple gun)
Have a good night all.

12-01-2005, 11:52 PM
Of course you can steal my idea...and so can anyone else who feels so inclined. So much for thinking we were all better here :( Allie went to bed as normal and I finished up my task of wiping the house clean of germs, then she woke back up said her throat hurt, stood up and puked all over my newly cleaned floor. Now she's up playing, saying she feels just fine. I guess I'll have to take her to the doctor in the AM. Oh joy, there goes some of the $ I was going to use for christmas shopping.

We are going to buy a new dryer on Saturday...hubby wants to put it on the credit card and get a brand new set. I think we should get a cheap used dryer since the washer is working fine, but he says it's just as old as the dryer and will probably act up soon as well. Oh well, I told him to do what he wants, it's now his job. The laundry is piled up so high it will take me forever to catch up.


12-02-2005, 09:08 AM
December is one of my favorite months usually. This year I'm a little worried about resisting all the great food that's around at this time. So far my december has started off with TOM making it's monthly debut. That worries me because coming this early means another appearance right around Christmas!!
I like Theresa's idea of weekly goals. I only have one this week.... RESIST CHOCOLATE!!!! So hard to do with TOM in the house!!
Let's all finish the year with a BANG and reach our goals. Just think what a great start it will give us for the new year!

12-02-2005, 11:07 AM
Misty, resist chocolate is a great goal! Mine must be resist fruit roll ups..why do they make those things so dang good? My TOM will hit right after Christmas, which puts the terror munchy week before it....right at the holiday :devil: same as thanksgiving and I didn't do so great on that one.

I did fat burning pilates workout just now and WOW it is a great workout. I sweated myself to death, chugged down a ton of water, and it's really fun. I got my heartrate up and kept it there all the way through, and it wasn't so difficult that I was left exhausted. I feel really good afer it. I think I'm going to work my exercise routine around to include it more than twice a week. I was surprised it's not all mat work like I thought of pilates, it's an actual cardio workout with unique moves that i had so much fun with.


12-02-2005, 09:38 PM
Tried on the pants I am hoping to wear on Christmas, last try on I couldnt' get them over my hips, now I can pull them all the way up but can't quite button them. Almost there....

12-02-2005, 10:12 PM
resisting chocolate is soo hard! we went to walgreens last night for some cold medicine and they had all this Christmas Candy- chocolate covered cherries and peppermints etc.. all on sale and i drooled but didn't buy anything. I wanted to tho- I mean i really wanted to-

:carrot: theresa on the pants :bravo:

I got thru rehearsal ok and didn't eat any of the candy they had -my eating wan't great today as things ran late and i ate dinner really late - got too hungry- I need to get some meal bars for situations like this.
i am really nervous about this cantata as I am in charge of making sure everyone gets their cues on time. but i tend to get nervous about lots of things so it's normal- at least this year I am not eating everything in site cause i am nervous.

I offically hate dishes and laundry. that's all I'll say on that!
But now i have to be off to do above hated things. :p

I must exercise tomorrow- I must exercise tomorrow... keep repeating
hide in fear of being wacked :snowball1 again if I don't exercise! :D

12-03-2005, 10:33 AM
it sounds like everyone is off to a great start on december. my goal for this month is pretty much the same as all my other ones -- get to the gym 4x a week and *lose*! the scale showed a setback last two times but i am hoping it was just food and coffee. yeah right. kinda messed up yesterday. dh and i had a fight, so i had no motivation to make dinner. i ordered pizza. they were 3 for $15 -- what a deal, right? yikes. i didn't know it, but pizza is a trigger food for me. i don't have many, but that is one. i could not stop eating. at least it was thin crust. but i ate, like, a whole medium pizza. :mad: :jeno: = :devil:
well that is not going to happen again. no pizza for me again, ever. it may be a trigger because i like it, but i won't die if i don't have it. funny.. i would die without ice cream, but i can stop eating it after one scoop. so weird.
if i can stay op and get to the gym, i can make my dec. 19 goal of 145. i can do it :D

12-03-2005, 10:42 AM
I think I need to do one day at a time. I just can't think too far ahead cause there is too much holiday stuff going on with friends. We just got invited to a dinner party next Saturday and there is a party buffet the following Saturday and today is DIL's birthday. And then there is New Years Eve. Yesterday friends came for dinner and brought a huge box of cookies, which I will ask DH to hide far away from me. I had meat sauce without the pasta and a salad, but then I had apple crisp. I shouldn't have.
So here's my plan:
One day at a time and I will post the plan of the day. That way I will have to follow it. Please join me if you think it will help you too.
Today-an omlette for late breakfast with 1 egg, onion, spinach, cheese, anda 2 tiny sausages, an apple and tea.
No lunch cause of giagantic breakfast.
dinner- a huge salad with everything in it
Snacks- and apple and a pear

We have a big job today, cleaning out the garage so a car can go in it. It's nice when it's real cold to get into the car in the garage rather than outside, but it is a big mess.

12-03-2005, 11:22 AM
Laura, we cleaned out our garage a few weeks ago so hubby could put the motorcycle in there when he's gone....have fun :lol:

Cadwell, could the cheese be the trigger food for you? That is one of mine, and at one point I thought it was just pizza. I learned that any full fat cheese I have the same trigger. Now I used reduced fat and the part-skim mozzarella, those don't do me in. I even make little bagel pizzas in the toaster oven using WW mini bagels, sugar free pizza sauce, part skim mozz, and veggies on top (I like green olives and tomotoes)...they are very good and my kids eat them up like nothing. On the other hand, it could have been a case of emotional eating over the fight, you just had yourself worked up and not caring at the moment. It could also have been that you haven't had pizza in a long time and just loved it so much you got carried away? I would just watch when you eat cheese in other meals and see if some sorts of it have the same trigger for you..or maybe not, just a thought :)

Sandi....Did you exercise? Huh, did ya? Got the snowball man warming up his arm :goodvibes Resisting chocolate was hard, but YOU DID IT!!!!

I finally get something back from freecycle and am thrilled! A really good friend who I met through that list is moving and is in a rough spot. Their house is sold and she must be out by Monday, but the house they were going to move into fell through and they had to make sudden change to move into an apartment for awhile, while finding another house to buy. SO, she has one of those huge outside trampolines, one of the really big rectangle ones, and she was going to ask me to post it on freecycle for her if I didn't want it myself...we have been wanting one of those for a long time so we are going to get it tomorrow!!!!! This more than makes up for everything I ever gave away on that list, plus more. I couldn't be happier. I found someone who has an exercise ball as well and will try to pick that up while we are out that way. Imagine what exercise I can get jumping on that trampoline! YAY!


12-03-2005, 01:10 PM
only have a minute cause i have yet ANOTHER rehearsal in an hour -
YES- sorry theresa- no :snowball1 I was up at 4:30 a.m. making hubby ( he had to be in at 5:00 today)-breakfast and then at 5:00 a.m. I got on the bike and rode for 35 minutes. 35 LONNNNNNG minutes- ( then i took a nap till 8 a.m. :)
I like the daily plan too- I have my notebook at the ready and every day is planned out. I am stopping by walgreens to grab a couple glucerna bars to stave off hunger if practice goes late.
I'll post longer later re what my plans look like
Laura Your Omlets look sooo yummy :hungry:

Hey Melissa is missing- I hope all the kids are ok and she's feeling ok ???

:carrot: Theresa on the trampoline- it sounds like FUN

12-03-2005, 01:36 PM
Theresa- Congrats on getting to move your ticker! :high:

Christmas is my favorite time of year. And, usually, it would be my toughest time of year to diet ~ for one, the cold weather makes it hard for me to want to crawl out of my nice cozy blanket ~ then there is all the hot cocoa, stews and chilli's that are all so filling, you hardly feel like exercising after you eat ~ and more importantly, my biggest obstacle, is my Mother LOVES to bake for the holidays! It has been our tradition for years, to get together and make baked goods for churches, nursing homes, etc. And, ofcourse, we "must" sample them for quality.. lol .. Luckily for me, this year, my MoM has informed me that we will not be able to do this, as she has to travel for her work and does not feel like we would have neough time for baking! She sounded disappointed, so I played along .. but secretly, I was :dance: THRILLED! Don't get me wrong, I will miss the quality time with my mother .. BUT, I won't miss the 5 or so lbs I usually gain from the :T "taste-testing" .. lol

My goals for this week : To control my meal portions, drink 1 gal of water a day, and to exercise everyday for ATLEAST 15 mins ~which is good for me considering how out of shape I am these days. Wish me luck! :cheer:

12-03-2005, 01:45 PM
I am here! Thursday was errends-lots of them and then yesterday I had to take Logan to wic, grocerystore for formula and milk, and then he had shots. I was exhausted by the time I got home. We got snow last night so the plans for pictures and santa are cancelled which part of me is happy for. Logan was up at 5a and went down for his nap right as the girls were getting up. We rescheduled for the 17th which means pics won't be ready to give out for christmas but I don't care. Just important they get done. I have hardly seen Josh since 730a as he is busy in the snow. So today I will get the house put back together do laundry and if I still feel like anything will start decorating for Christmas. I am supposed to take Logan in for his visit with kate on monday at 1p. She was supposed to call michelle at 2 yesterday to confirm but I don't think she did since michelle never called me back. Fine by me really. Joshua bought me earings at the school store yesterday. He actually bought me two pair but after he showed me the other ones he told me he had to save those to give me for christmas-too cute. I am going to try and get the daily menus for myself done today so I am ready to go when I can get groceries-the good ones, not the top ramen and garbage I had to buy. I can already tell a difference in how I feel and I am needing to be back in my game and feeling energized again. Have a great day!

12-03-2005, 02:18 PM
Melissa, glad to hear you are getting back on track. I can imagine you were worn out after all that running with the kids! Babies just make things much more difficult, but you have to enjoy it anyway because soon they will no longer be babies! I am looking forward to the day I can say "okay, everyone in the car!" and they can get there by themselves! Of course, I also don't want them to grow up, it's confusing being mommy, isn't it?

GOOD LUCK Rayne!! You can do it!!! Maybe it would help to set a specific time you're going to exercise, so you can't push it off until too late.

:ebike: great job exercising Sandi. Now, when are you due for another spin? Snowball man is still warming up that arm.

I have nothing to report. I'm doing nothing today because tomorrow is going to be super busy. We have to go to the dump and get rid of a broken recliner (my kids are so lovely :mad:) and then go to Gastonia to pick up the exercise ball and trampoline, which means dropping at least 1 kid at MILs because we can't all fit in the truck, then off to buy the dryer and catch up with the piles of laundry I have been cringing at. So, today is rest up day.

I'm trying to make an appointment to get the kids pictures done, but they won't answer the stupid phone :mad:


12-03-2005, 10:11 PM
well along with riding the bike this a.m. I was on my feet for 2 hours straight running around gettting costumes together etc.. crawling around on the floor marking spots and gettting measuring - and does stress burn calories?? Lots of stress going on :lol: we did have some fun- the 18 month old who is playing little Jesus at the end of the cantata was trying to high five all the angels when they lifted their hands (wings) that broke up all the seriousness of everthing.
WOW Melissa- you are so busy- way to go on planning meals. I am finding it is saving me $$$$$$ and really helping to figure out what to eat.

Monday for exercise (ducking and dodging snowballs has to burn a few calories too:) I skip Sunday's for exercise as they are so busy around here-But if i am home in the afternoon I may do some video-
Tomorrow Breakfast is egg whites ,tomatoes and ww toast with tea
Lunch is tuna salad with wheat thins, dinner is chicken and dumplings- ( I use the new heart smart bisquick and Skim milk ) carrots and green beans
Snacks are apples and popcorn
I am NOT staying for the holiday dinner after church tomorrow as I know that i will overeat and blow my day in a very very bad way. it'll be bad enough with little old ladies tempting me -

I relate with kids growing up- Jocie can walk herself inot school now- used to be mommy would walk her to the front door and we would have kisses and hugs and have a good day etc.. Now that's she's in 2nd grade and it's all bye mom- Mom- I can go by myself..
Everyone have a great night-

12-03-2005, 11:00 PM
I got thru today, staying OP, and staying with what I posted this AM as my food for the day. I think it helped that it was written down and I would have felt stupid if I did something else. I avoided my DIL's birthday and a dinner invitation. I just can't do it right now. Too hard to stay OP and I like it much better when I am following a plan than when not. I really want to look good by spring and now is when it matters.
I am thinking thru all the holiday temptations and in reality, what's the difference between staying OP at holiday times, or regular times? Does it really matter if you turn down sweets at some one elses house or at your own? Maybe a good idea is to go to whatever occasions come up looking real good, wearing something that makes you feel like you are changing and hold on to that good feeling.
I watched my size 2 DIL and her size 2 mom and sister, (they are barely 5 feet tall) eat small portions and just a little bit of dessert last week. They definately care more about how they look than eating something they don't need. And they are not angry or disappointed when they say no. At my son's wedding last year, her mother had lots of choices re what to wear and
I had a miserable time, finally buying a black long skirt and an incredibly expensive top that I didn't like, but it went good and it fit and I was grateful. NO MORE.
I am ranting.
I will post Sunday's food in the morning. I'll probably just do the same as today because I have everything in the house and it was on ok day.

12-03-2005, 11:02 PM
I blew it :( I haven't seen hubby in a week and was really down and missing him today, and he was on his way home and kept getting delayed by everything under the sun. Allie wanted to bake him cookies so I agreed, and soon as I took them out of the oven he called and said he would be home in the morning. I miss him and it's not fair and I hung up and ate FIVE COOKIES. FIVE!!!! They were down the hatch before I even realized it was FIVE. I thought I was beyond doing this to myself :mad:

Cookies won't make him get home any sooner. Cookies won't murder his boss for sending him so far away on a Thursday night. Cookies will do nothing but make me miserable and disappointed in myself and that helps nothing. I feel so horrible, not physically but emotionally.

Of course, there was the old days where I'd have eaten every last one of them then went searching for chips to top it off, so I guess there has been some progress made. But still, FIVE!!! That's a lot of calories and fat :cry:


12-03-2005, 11:07 PM
Laura, thank you for your rant, it is what I needed to hear tonight. You hit home with me on so many points. I really want to be able to wear comfortable shorts next year, to wear cute spring clothes and a bathing suit and not feel like everyone is staring...and NOW is the time that matters for that. NOW is when I need to focus if I want that to be my reality. I am not going to focus on holidays and birthdays, but on spring and feeling comfortable when it comes to stripping off the coats and jeans.

I also don't want to just settle for what fits anymore, I want my choice of where to shop and what I wear...because I like it, not because it's the only thing that fits. You have put my focus where it needs to be, thank you very, very much.

12-04-2005, 07:49 AM
theresa, don't feel bad about the cookies. it's in the past and like you said, you need to think ahead to spring and your goal. since 3500 extra calories equal one pound, it would take five times as many cookies as you had to gain even one pound. theoretically i guess. so we can safely forget our slip-ups i think. what really trips up people in our situation is letting one mistake convince us to give up, and none of us are going to do that!
i think you are right about the pizza. i was all emo and it had been awhile since i had that kind of pizza, which is my fave. i think i also let go of some inhibitions courtesy of a little vino. well it more than a little :devil: not that that didn't add a few calories in and of itself ;)
laura, you idea about posting food for the day in advance is great. i think i will copy your idea -- tomorrow i will have an egg white and vegetable omelet and bacon for breakfast (260 cals), lunch at church (~400 cals), and ravioli for dinner (360 cals). i may also have some snack or treat (200 cals at the most!) i have a hard time planning exactly, but something is better than nothing. i will also try and get dh to hit the gym with me for the 3rd day in a row.. yay!

12-04-2005, 10:53 AM
Theresa-5 cookies is nothing in the larger scheme of things. Make it up on your bike today and you will feel better. Also, no more baking is a good idea. I bought all the stuff to make baklava for my kids and I'm thinking about buying them books or music CDs instead of my baking. I know if I make baklava I will have to eat some, just to trim around the edges so it looks neat and uniform.
My food today will be the same as yesterday, a big breakfast - lunch omlette and a salad with everything in it. snacks - fruit
It's snowing here and I will be in the house all day because I don't like driving in snow, so I must stay on OP.
Cadwell- I do like food posting. Let me know how it goes.

12-04-2005, 04:04 PM
Theresa- 5 cookies will not kill you- you can exercise them off !!
it's good you didn't eat 6 or 7 or 8. after all you are my exercise hero:) those calories will be gone in NO time! and you didn't give up either so :bravo:

I liked your rant Laura too- I am so tired of wearing pants that fit in the waist and are baggy in the legs- I have such an impossible time buying clothes- I just want to go into a store and buy something that fits and isn't a plus size. I am so CLOSE to wearing these size 16 button ups. I can wear 16 pull ups no problem and even they are getting a bit baggy. I have this really pretty blouse that is a teal green and it looked nice on me- today I was told it looked bad cause it was baggy on me- But I am not quite into the next size for tops- wiser food choices and proper portions seems to be a daily struggle for me.

My oven blew up today- it zipped and zapped and buzzed and smoke filled the air when i turned it on - the Landlord will have a new one tomorrow- a nice one WHOO HOO! but No chicken and d's tonight as I can't cook - They will have pizza and I will order a lite greek salad (no salami and lite cheese.) it's been so long since i had take out pizza ,I am afraid it'll make me sick to eat it.
Still within a good points range today. I wanted to stay and eat today at the holiday meal but I would have gone over Points Big time as there was so much yummy food at the dinner.

Food tomorrow will be Oatmeal and a banana for breakfast, lunch will be veggie soup and 1/2 sandwich with an apple for CRUNCH and dinner is chicken in the crock pot with rice and veggies- snacks will be veggies cut up and my fav. JELLO!

12-04-2005, 11:22 PM
I couldn't go to sleep with those cookies in my belly last night, just felt I had to do something, so I jumped on the gazelle and did 5 miles. it was the only exercise for the day and I felt much better afterward. Hubby also came home as I finished up and that was a very very pleasant surprise!

Today, we were so darn busy I didn't eat a thing until 8PM, when we stopped at Sonic and I inhaled a mushroom swiss hamburger, tater tots, and a medium watermelon slush. It was all I had all day, so I think it'll be okay. Nutrition was not priority, it was just a matter of getting something down. I am too tired to worry about exercise, so it'll just have to be okay.

We have brand new washer/dryer and a huge trampoline and I couldn't be happier...nor could I be more tired. Night all!


12-05-2005, 08:39 AM
well posting food in advance didn't work this time. i didn't go over on calories, but i ended up eating different stuff. oh well. the good news is i discovered this awesome indian simmer sauce. i made that with tons of peppers, mushrooms, and zucchini with chicken breast and had it over noodles. 320 calories and i was soooo stuffed. dh couldn't finish his even, and he eats way more food than me usually. but he had rice, so maybe that's why.
i also couldn't help myself and had candy. i just love ferrero rocher.. mmm! but i only had one.. yay me :devil:

12-05-2005, 09:24 AM
Cadwell, good job on stopping at one chocolate. I can't plan meals ahead either, though I have tried several times. I like to eat what sounds good at the moment and have trouble sticking with schedules like that.

My goal for today is to GET BACK OP in the eating department and 3 jugs of water minimum...and NOTHING ELSE. It's a new week, new start, and I am on my way to a NEW ME come spring. Watch out ladies, I'm determined to fit the clothes in the back of my closet...and every cute thing in the store I like...I'm determined I tell ya!

:wave: hello to everyone else. Wherever we are. THis is the busy month for us all, so lets just check in as often as we can gals. Just watch where we'll be next year :carrot:


12-05-2005, 09:57 AM
I stayed with what I posted yesterday with the addition of 2 teaspoons of icecream and 20 almonds, but I put it all in fitday and I am at less than 1300.
I will try again today.
breakfast, lunch -big omelette
dinner, big salad and salmon
snack, fruit

Theresa- I am jealous of the trampoline. It must be great fun for the kids and grownups. Maybe that's the place to go when you want food.
Last night I read some of the posts on the support forum. It was very helpful, and there is so much to read when the going gets rough.
Let's all try to post everyday. We help each other so much.

Ice Princess
12-05-2005, 02:10 PM
Well ladies, I found yous. I havnt decided what my goal for Decmber are yet, cause I still havn't did Septembers, Octobers or Novembers yet, and like we all know this is going to be a very crazy month. I did make it to Curves a couple times for November I did my wiegh in and I am the same, no Gain, but no lose either, which is good in a way.
I ordered my gazelle should be here by the 16th, cant wait to use it and get motiviated again. I figure even 10 minutes to start off with will be great. I also got that game I mentioned on the PS2 the Eye Toy Kenetic, I got it Firday and fooled around with it al weekend, had to test it out. Gonna go home tonight after work and put all my info in and start my 12 week program with that. I did pack my clothes for Curves today but did forget them by the door, going to have to put them in the van tonight so I have no more excusses.
I guess my goals for December will be
* drink 8 glasses of water
* stop drinking pepsi
* start going to curves regularly ( 3 times a week)
* start using my gazelle for at 5 minutes to start and work up to 15 for end of December
* start my 12 week training program with the ps2 game Dec 5th 1st week, Feb 20th last week (week 12)
* take measurements for the 12 weeks every monday
Well lets see if I can hold on to these goals, I think they are pretty reasonable and very focussed. Well good luck ladies and stay on program.

12-05-2005, 02:53 PM
The trampoline will be tons of fun if we ever get to use it. It's been raining here for three days, making up for about 2 months without a drop I guess. It is really, really big, bigger than we expected. It also doesn't have the net around it to catch the kids, or a padding over the springs, so we will have to get at least the pad. i think they are okay without the net for now because it's so big, they can stay to the middle while so small. I will of course be on there with them to watch. After we put it up hubby told me to get on it and I felt like I was going to fall through the middle! Hopefully by spring when we will be jumping daily probably, I will be lighter and not feel that way.

Ice, nice to see you around again! Some of us are setting weekly goals so we can accomodate the special activities of this month...that might be an option for you as well. The game sounds so fun, hope you enjoy it and knock off some pounds while playing.

I skipped everything this AM, both eating and exercise and went back to bed. I was exhausted from yesterday and everyone else was sleeping, so I dropped allie at school and crawled back in. I feel much better now, tackling the laundry now that piled up without a dryer. Not fun at all.


12-05-2005, 04:07 PM
I need my roller coaster to stop. I have to take Logan to see Kate here shortly and he is still sleeping. No one wanted to sleep last night. Odessa ripped her feather pillow last night at 11p so the room was covered with feathers and I couldn't vac since Amanda was sleeping. Logan woke up about midnite wanting to play and be up so it was a struggle till about 130-2a to get him to go back to sleep. I guess I will have to pack his lunch and let kate feed him while he is there since I want him to be able to sleep maximum before his visit. I once again got on the phone and was ragging at support enforcement since they don't seem to be enforcing much and the deadbeat now owes me 2019$$$. I have to wait until saturday to get groceries and I am sick of eating junk and really want to get back into the game here. I started to hang lights outside but ran out-ugh and Josh is just champing at the bit for me to put the tree up which I probably won't get to until wednesday at the earliest since tomorrow is josh therapy and I really need to get logans birth certificate so I can get his social security card (another thing Kate just didn't seem to have time to do). Tired of picking up the slack for irresponsible people. It is really getting old. Ok I whined-need to put everyone together again so I can take Logan down to cps office.

12-05-2005, 05:44 PM
:hug: so sorry Melissa, you have it so hard right now. I've never heard of a child ripping a pillow, what a mess that must have made! I hope the visit goes well today.


12-05-2005, 10:08 PM
Anyone else want to exchange Christmas cards???? So far there are only 3 of us!:( :?:
PM me with your address if you want on the list. I will PM those who want the list on Friday. I think that gives everyone time to get the cards out.
Come on ladies!!!

12-05-2005, 10:14 PM
Melissa-I'm so sorry your day is so awful and that the good for nothing is behind again. In MD, where my daughter lives, the city gives her the support and then they get it from her good for nothing ex. That way she doesn't have to chase the unreliable baby maker.
Whatever does Kate do with the baby for 2 hours at the office? Maybe she will get bored with it soon and not show.
I know you are strong and maybe tomorrow will be easier.

12-05-2005, 10:32 PM
I had to wake Logan to take him today so she fed him lunch during the visit. Michelle said he didn't freak nearly as much as last week and he has been happy since he got home. The give up has already started. Today she sent home his "favorite" blanket. The whole time she was saying she wanted the girls back, she would be bringing their things that were left during the move over until she had nothing left at her house for them. I know she is going to lose interest and just not want to do what is required of her. Thing is David isn't allowed around Logan but she thinks she is going to marry him?? What does that say. Odessa got upset again when we dropped Logan off. She likes to know where he is all the time. I got the tree up and the lights are on but that is as far as I have gotten. Both girls are completely fascinated by it. Josh actually took everything out of storage and brought it in the house. I knew I was going to have to get it up in the next day or two-he is just too excited about the whole thing. I sure wish they ran child support that way here-I know they would get the money then. I left a message with them again-she will get my money just to get me off her back. It has been all I can do not to email him and tell him what I think. He uses the support for control-he bloody well has the money he just choses to spend it on other things. I am looking forward to saturday so I can start eating good again. I am probably PMSing too which is why I am on the rampage about everything. Knowing doesn't seem to help me a whole lot.

12-05-2005, 11:06 PM
:hug: Melissa- I feel so bad for you dealing with everything. You must be so strong- I locked myself in my room tonight when hubby and Jocie were acting up- I was helping jocie with her Sled project ( like kids in Florida know what a sled looks like) and we were putting glitter on it ( It's a princess sled) and we spilled some and the cat got into it and trailed glitter all over- Then Hubby comes home right at that time with the new stove and wants help , then theres yelling cause jocie is throwing a fit about the cat in the glitter- I said fine everyone deal with themselves- and went in my room to cool off. wouldn't even answer the door to what are we supposed to eat... of course jocie is 7 -a big difference between 2 years old etc..

Candace -I am so with you on the "F-R" oooh they are soo good. good for you only eating 1
Laura You seem to be doing so good on your planning- you are really an inspiration to me!

Theresa -That trampoline sounds like fun! soon you'll be doing back flips and sommersaults! :carrot:
Ice- glad to see ya around! I am really finding it better to go week by week this month and make no weight loss goals

I was good on food today and better on water -I am really getting back into my water -
Tomorrow food will be fruit and yoghurt for breakfast, lunch is chicken and veggies and dinner is I have NO IDEA as I really need to get to the store. Snacks are apples and string cheese

I was reading some other posts and i was wondering if anyone would want to share what they called NSV- Which means NON SCALE VICTORY- like today my NSV was i didn't eat any of the leftover cookies or chips lurking around my office even though i wanted to. I think I like it and will look everyday for a NSV . I think for me it'll help me focus on what a healthier lifestyle will bring and not be so scale crazed-

no comment on exercise (OW Theresa that :snowball1 Hurt! :lol: I will get back on it in the a.m. as i duck and dodge more snowballs

12-05-2005, 11:47 PM
NSV sounds like a great idea. It's so positive.
My NSV for today is that I stuck to my plan, with just a little extra, a small bit of granola, but I am under 1300 calories.
When I was frantic over one of my kids being a jerk, I made a vanilla tea, with 2 Splendors and a dash of heavy cream. It was really good and satisfying. I turned the ringers off the phones at 10 PM. I am tired of my son and DIL, (not the ones that lost the baby) and I don't want to hear anymore tonight. I think he is to blame, more than she, in their endless battles, and I can't make it better, which makes me feel powerless and like a failure cause I raised such a pain in the neck child. He definately has anger issues and he refuses to get help. When he is good, he is so good, but it never lasts very long. He is a grownup now and at some point he will realize he has to change. My DIL loves him so and he doesn't realize that soon she will have had enough.
Melissa- I bet the visits will end soon. Why is she interested in this baby and not the other two? I hope one day Kate figures out how to get a life.
Sandi-I wish I was in Florida. It is so cold and gloomy here.

12-06-2005, 05:39 AM
i like the idea of an nsv -- esp. since i have not had any sv lately ;). today i would say it was no sweets and buying lots of veggies at the market. my student told me about this market where they are super cheap, and was she ever right. i bought a grip. the more veggies i eat the better. the zucchini was 1/3 the price of the place i usually get it. it wasn't even on sale.. just naturally cheap. woohoo!
i have really been stressing the past couple days because i may have a chance at a really good job down in san diego. i interviewed there forever ago, and they finally called back. it's at the place i have been trying to get a job for two years, plus that's where all my friends live. it would be so unbelievably great if i get it, and i am so nervous! i can't wait to get a real job and move away from this place i hate and go back home. :crossed:

12-06-2005, 10:09 AM
NSV for yesterday...I got in 2 hours of exercise, about 7 miles. I cannot say a good thing about my eating :nono: I was trying to catch up with laundry so made the quick, not so healthy foods instead of taking time to make something healthy. Not today, I felt icky all day and today I want to feel better.

I had to redo my exercise schedule already because some of the workouts are too easy and I needed to combine them into longer workouts, so what I have now should be more challenging for awhile. I don't know what I'm going to do because workouts get easy for me so quick, I can't keep buying new things, they aren't cheap enough to do that. I just get to the point where I don't even break a sweat. The beginner strip I can do over and over and barely sweat now, the first time I did it I thought I would die. I'm not perfect at the moves and have been trying to perfect it, do it with more energy, get the moves snappier like Carmen does them, and if I really focus on it then I do sweat some, so for now it is okay.


12-06-2005, 02:03 PM
I am so glad that after today, I can just be home until saturday when I have to do grocery shopping. We did get the tree up last night finally. Joshua did the decorating and he didn't do a half bad job either. He is just getting way too excited about Christmas. I had Odessa singing happy birthday to Jesus yesterday. I may have to make a cake and put a candle in it the way she is. Got Logan all cleaned up. I cracked up when I got his bath going and I turned around and both the girls were standing there naked. Can't say they don't like to take a bath. I just wanted to check in and say hey! I will see what others say when I get back. It is Josh's therapy but I am the one who gets to go-still trying to figure that one out but hey it is a shrinks ear for 50 minutes so I am going to use it.

12-06-2005, 02:45 PM
Glad to hear things are a bit better your way Melissa. Your mood seems to be up some from yesterday :)

I am happy to report that I can do the basic pilates workout, though it's only 20 minutes long. WHy are all these workouts so short? I like to get in at least 45 minutes per workout, so I have to keep switching dvds and mixing them up and it's annoying. The fat burning pilates is 45 minutes, but everything else is short and strength oriented. Hubby suggested I find my old tae bo tapes, which I could never do without dying, and see if I can do them now. I think that's a good idea, though i have a serious fear of them now :lol: They would wear me out to the point of lying on the couch all day in exhaustion...kinda counter-productive there.


12-06-2005, 03:09 PM
My mood always improves when support enforcement tells me they are taking his drivers lisence if he does't pay-LOL. She is getting pretty fed up with him too. It is like he does just what he has to so he isn't inconvenienced at all. Told her about all the new things he has been showing up with too. Got all the kids bathed-whew! I am doing the countdown for saturday so I can really get going again. I am so ready! I know I put a few of my pounds back on but my jeans still are kind of baggy so I know it isn't too awful and hopefully alot of it is water. Mom is going to be here soon and I need to get the kids lunch so will be back.

12-06-2005, 06:01 PM
Does he have to pay all he owes, or just some of it? Do you think he'll care about the license enough to pay? I hope so!

I am having a hard time exercising today. The morning session was the unexpectedly short one, then soon as I got 1 mile in this afternoon hubby called all frantic that his DOT physical card expires Sunday, so if he doesn't get an appointment to renew it this week he can't drive, which means he can't work. His regular doctor couldn't get him in until next week so I had to call all around until I found someone who will work him in on Friday morning. I was so frustrated I could have ripped his head in two if he were here. Why wait until the last minute and then expect ME to fix it? :mad: Frustrating and it ruined my workout. I am not in a good mood today...obviously! I thought I was going to do my Christmas shopping this weekend...but this physical costs $110 so that will cut down on what I can spend **sigh**


12-06-2005, 09:28 PM
:D :hug: to everyone having bad , irritated , grouchy day- I am here to join you in grumpiness! :p

I was so annoyed today I ate a mini candy cane- but it was a mini and not a big one. So I will not beat myself up over it.

I was blehh on food today and good on water - zach forgot his notes at his house today and i had to make 2 trips so he wouldn't fail his debate class- then i was almost late for work - forgot my lunch and snacks but had a few things in the office so i survived without eating chips etc..
Lets just say work IS NOT FUN at this point- I love my job but right now my timeline is SO tight-

Went to go find a green top to wear Sunday night for the big performance and all i could find was lime green and that is not a good color for me- so I will wear an older top- I loved some they had in the smaller sizes but i tried on an Xlarge 16 and my daughter said it looked good But I thought it was too tight and felt very not comfy in it. I have to feel good in something no matter what anyone says -

My NSV today was that i exercised- :carrot:
I am soo tired tonight and am going to crawl in bed after my tea and read for a while. friend gave me 2 bags of books today! I HEART free books!
I think i am fighting a cold- must get to the store for some of that airborne stuff - it was made by a teacher who kept getting sick and last time i thought i was getting sniffles I took some and was fine. I think it's getting to be TOM too- but with my schedule I never know- It just comes when it wants to

Have a great night all!

12-06-2005, 10:30 PM
I stuck to my posted food today except for a little bit of turkey breast that a friend brought over. It was wild turkey that he shot and cooked with bacon and cheese. It was so good, but I only had a tiny bit and DH had it for lunch and supper so it's gone. For supper I made a big salad and cut the turkey up on top of his salad and fish on mine. So that's my NSV for today.
I tried on my trying on pants and they are definately bigger and longer cause there isn't as much to pull them up. Still far from looking good.
I just won 10 yards of fabric on ebay and I am going to spray all my mismatched dining room chairs black and recover all the seats. That will take a long time cause it's a big job. I've always wanted 8 matching chairs, but so far that's the best I can do.
Melissa- You sound a bit better. When my boys were little I used to bathe them in the kitchen sink. No bending down and it was warmer than the bathroom. When the third boy was a baby the 2 older ones would sit on the counter with their feet in the sink while the baby was in the sink. They loved it. I wish they were that age again so I wouldn't have to worry the way you do over Kate and I do over mine when they are dumb, which is too often.

12-07-2005, 02:57 AM
Hi all!
My NSV for today and yesterday is I exercised! 2 days in a row at Curves is good for me! I hope I can get in again tomorrow, but I have to go sit in hubby's place at the race meeting so I don't know?
Weighed and measured at Curves yesterday-Lost 5 lbs and 3 1/2 inches :carrot: What I don't get is my 22 jeans are so loose I can pull them down without unbuttoning/unzipping, but my 20's are SO tight! I can get them on, but then I have this enormous amount of spare tire that hangs over the top:mad: Slightly uncomfortable(and very ugly)! I have been sticking to sweats lately since I'm in between.
Haven't been doing so well on food this week, not terrible, but not great. I need to sit down and put it all in fitday to really know how I'm doing. I think it would be good for me also to plan what I am eating everyday. I've never done that, just usually eat whatever is there. Here is my list for tomorrow-
Bfast-Yogurt, WW toast, 1% milk
Lunch-low cal soup
Dinner-Veggie sand @ Subway-promised kids I would take them to the newly opened KFC, I'm NOT eating anything there-I promise!!!
Lots of water, 2 diet cokes
I'm going to try and sit down tomorrow and make a list for the week, we'll see how it goes. Hubby works 8 on/6 off, 10am to 11pm, when he is at work I don't cook too much, the kids don't care. They would rather eat cup of soup or cereal for dinner. I really need to get my act together and feed them! It would be healthier for all of us. I'm just so lazy when it comes to cooking:(

Have a great night and a healthy OP day!!!


12-07-2005, 03:07 AM
Cadwell-Good luck with the job!! Hope you get it!

Theresa-I have the TaeBo tapes-they KICK my butt!! Leaves me in a heap on the floor after about 10 minutes!

Melissa-Good to "hear" you in such a better mood today than the last couple days! :hug: I hope things are better for you this month now that you are used to having an extra little one around!

Laura-Good for you staying OP today! That turkey sounds good!
I wish I could have matching chairs too! I told hubby that when we buy our own house, and these little ones get a little older, I am going to buy a brand new table and chairs! Been married 18 1/2 years and have never bought new furniture of any kind! (If you don't count the TV stand we just bought for the new TV hubby wanted!!!) Someday....................oops,,, I started daydreaming about new furniture:D :D

Night all!

12-07-2005, 09:53 AM
kathy, I am also in between 22 and 20. 22 falls down, 20 I'd have to lay down to button up. It's been that way for awhile :shrug: I have a pair of 18 that fits now though.

We have a lot of very, very nice furniture, but it was all given to us by MIL. The table and chairs have seen their day though and I'd love to replace them one day.

I have an old friend that turned out not to be a great friend and we haven't talked in about five months. I saw she posted on freecycle that she really needs clothing for her kids and I happen to have 3 bags full of clothing in her son's size, so I emailed her and we agreed though it might be uncomfortable, she really needs the clothes, so I am going to her home to give them to her and let the kids play today. I don't know how this will go, seeing that we stopped talking because I confronted her about not only talking behind my back, but what she said was pure lie after lie that made me look like a horrible person. The other friend said she knew me better and told me all that was said and now I don't know how this is going to go! She has hit serious hard times and her little boy only has 1 pair pants, 1 shirt, and 1 sweater for the winter, so there's no doubt I am going to help them all I can. I even took some clothes out of Allie's closet for her girl, they wear the same size so Allie's choices will be a bit thinner now...but the other girl has next to nothing so I just want to help them.

This is going to mean I miss any chances of an afternoon workout, so I am going to get a good one in this morning. NSV for yesterday, was getting in 5 miles of exercise even though it was next to impossible, no one would give me ten seconds alone. But I did it anyway :D even though I had to stay up way late and now am sleepy.


12-07-2005, 10:55 AM
Hello everyone!

I haven't had time to post for so long that I feel like I'm "way out" of the loop. Hope everything is going great for everyone and you are all surviving the holiday months. I had a slip-up for a few days at Thanksgiving but instead of beating myself up over it and letting a little slip-up turn in to a disaster, I just kicked up my exercise and got right back at it. This morning the scale said 144.5, so I guess I am back in the swing of things. Other than that I have just been so busy getting ready for Christmas, between shopping, decorating, work, kid's holiday concerts, etc., I just feel like I have no time. But I know everybody feels that way so it's time for me to quit whining, right?

Theresa bless your heart for helping out someone who has hurt you. It is really good of you to be able to put the kids first and help them out even though their mother has treated you badly. You should feel really good about yourself for doing that. That's awesome!

Everybody else, hi! I've got lots of reading to try to catch up on to see what everybody has been up to. Congrats to everybody who has had any kind of successes in the past few weeks!

I have the day off so I am going to go get some exercise and try to check back in later and do some reading. I have missed everybody!! Hope you are all doing great!

12-07-2005, 12:21 PM
Hey Kayelle! I've been wondering where ya went! You're right not to let the slip up get to ya. You have some padding there, since you are under your goal, so really don't be hard on yourself. Even if you gained a couple back, you're still under your goal, so just enjoy the season..within reason of course!

I've decided to make one Dec. goal afterall. I would like to lose 3 lbs. and make it to 20 lbs. lost. The end of this month will be 5 months of losing weight and I would like to have lost at least 20 lbs. in 5 months...geez, could this be going any slower??


12-07-2005, 05:10 PM
My food for today is my usual late omelette, 1/2 salami sandwich at 3:00 and some soup for supper. Snack is fruit.
I got a very late start. My car had to go to the dealer for the 60,000 mile thing. $600. Then they called to say it needed brake cylinders for $250 and it won't be ready till tomorrow. I have to relax about it. It's the first repair and it's 3 years. But it sure blows this month away.
We are totally reliant on cars where we live. There is no public transportation at all. The train to NYC is 1/2 hour away and then it takes 1 3/4 hours to get there. The nearest market is 10 miles but there is a convenience store close by. I do love it here and I am only complaining because it's cold and the car cost so much. Sorry.
I am going to a book talk tonight. The author of a new book on history will be there and I am hoping the book is interesting and I can buy a signed one to give as a gift for a good friend. The bad part is the cookies that will be there and I WON'T touch. Isn't it just awful that I can't face what might be a nice hour without obsessing about the cookies, which I could inhale in 10 seconds.
I will be back tonight to tell you all that I didn't touch the miserable cookies.

12-07-2005, 09:21 PM
hey Kayelle Good to see you!

Theresa I think 3 pounds to make 20 is a good goal- it's not an unrealistic goal and the way you exercise you should have no trouble! that is so sweet of you to help out someone in need-Especially someone who was not nice to you

Kathy WHOO HOO for the exercise! :carrot:

Melissa- I SO hope they garnish that big dummy's pay check and leave him with NOTHING! adn take away his license and he gets caught driving w/o one and goes to jail- There - i feel much better now! :D

Candace -I hope the job interview goes well. i know what it's like to live in a place you don't like.

Laura -I'd send you some of our weather but it's rainy here and so muggy- we are having to run our air it's so humid out there-today was 78 and the humidity was 80% - ugh

Work is so unreal right now and I am so stressed- I have so much to do and no time to do it. It's like this every year and i should be ready for it but NO matter how much I prepare I get behind. I can be a mutitasker at work but by this time of year I am so tired and just wanna sleep!
Food was not good today I went over - water was great.
I will not get upset over food- I didn't eat junk -Just ate too much of what I had- and tom arrived -joy! yay! NOT!
Laura I think i understand what you are saying- I have a potluck on Saturday and I am stressing over what can i eat? what shouldn't I eat? What if i eat too much? ARRGH - times like this i wonder if it isn't easier to just stay this way and not care- But we all know it's not- so I will be very careful. and i will avoid the cookie social Sunday night- there will be over 100 platters of cookies - i don't trust myself at all in a room filled with cookies. :hungry:
Food for tomorrow may be anything i can eat that won't eat me first :rofl:
Have a good night Everyone!!

12-07-2005, 10:02 PM
All this cookie temptation right now!!!!!! I wouldn't trust myself in a room full of them either..especially during TOM, yikes!

i ended up staying later than I thought I would with the old friend and we got to talking, talking like it was just old times. I am kind of leary of her though because of what happened before. Someone who goes behind your back lying about you for no reason at all just isn't trustworthy, but we'll see.

No exercise yet and I am feeling tense...going to stay up late to get it in I guess. What I really want to do is go to BED, but if I do that I have no NSV for today, so guess I have to do it.


12-07-2005, 11:08 PM
There were no cookies at the book reading. How's that? I obsessed over cookies that weren't even there.

12-08-2005, 11:51 AM
I'm wondering where Melissa is...hope everything is well with you and the kids!!!

My goal for today is to get in 2 workout sessions and drink ALL my water. I have to get going on those two things. Went grocery shopping so should be able to be OP with eating as well.

I made the mistake of thinking I could buy some toys for Christmas with Tyler, while Allie was in school....MISTAKE! He threw himself on the floor crying "I not leave truck!" and he did't realize I had the same thing in the cart, it was right there but he didn't see it :lol: good, I didn't want him to. He just threw a fit not wanting to leave that truck and it was SO hard getting all that stuff out to the car and getting him to walk and not lay down in the parking lot with his tantrum. Lovely twos, here we come.


12-08-2005, 02:16 PM
I was wondering about Melissa, also. I hope everything is ok.

Theresa I know the shopping episode wasn't funny at the time, but cherish those moments as crazy as it may sound. I do love the freedom I have now that my kids are older, but when I hear stories like that one it makes me miss having little ones around all the time. I was mortified at the time when things like that happened...but now I think back on those moments and smile. Two year olds may be exasperating but they are soooo much fun.

My exercise for the day so far...I did two 25 minute workouts (Denise Austin videos, one was strictly aerobics, and one was aerobics combined with weights), and then 15 minutes on the nordic track.

Hope everybody is having a great Thursday!

12-08-2005, 02:43 PM
Kayelle, you would have loved to see my walking across the parking lot if you like those stories :lol: They had these little shopping buggies and just the doll crib box took up the entire thing, so I had these two huge trucks stacked on top, one hand on top of them all, other hand trying to keep Tyler up on his feet, and pushing the buggie pretty much with my tummy....good thing I'm not skinny yet!!!! It was very hard, but I have NO time without the little guy and Allie is old enough to realize it's not santa if she sees me buying things, so it was now or never pretty much. I still have more to do, but just DVDs and small things that I should be able to slip in without going near the toy aisle.

You know, our walmart has moved all the kids DVDS and games into the toy department and I am wondering WHY????? Do they not know what it's like to take kids into that department and say "No, we're not buying toys today" ??? I know ,they want us to be stressed out so we will give in and buy them something more...but it will backfire with parents like me, I don't give in and buy more, I give up, put the entire cart to the side and leave with NOTHING. I will go somewhere else for the DVDs probably, dont' want to go through this again!!


12-08-2005, 03:51 PM
I am here. I had so much housework yesterday and I was pretty emotional. I had a gas bill sitting here that I didn't know how I was going to pay it and I wound up getting a check in the mail from an unlikely resource that almost covered the entire bill! I was overcome with emotion. I can so relate with taking kids shopping. Each time it is a grand adventure. You haven't lived until your child is on the floor barking in the middle of the store. I just step over him now and keep walking. He hasn't done that in a long time. I have to take all 4 of them on saturday when I go grocery shopping. Woohoo.

As far as weight loss, I am just starting over on saturday like it is the beginning. I know I have put back some of the weight and I am just going to change the ticker and everything and go from there.

12-08-2005, 07:54 PM
Hi everyone, I'm catcing up as usual. Congrats to all those who have lost and stayed OP:carrot: I think the NSV thing is a great idea, I'm going to have to think on that one though.
I'm stuck at home for the next 5 days, supposed to be on bed rest (like that's really going to happen) What really stinks is this will put an end to my 2 weeks off in January :( I was really looking forward to that vacation too. Now I just have to keep from stomping DH:snow4: He means well, but still can get on my last nerve very quickly when I'm stuck doing nothing!!!

Has anyone else noticed that people seem to be much ruder this year while shopping??? Maybe it's just around here, but it seems like people are just outright nasty this year. I have a bruise on my leg where a lady ran into me with her cart and then made a comment on how some people thought they owned the aisle! I was standing as close to the shelves as I could get, she just didn't want to wait for another person to go by and pushed her way through. I was so shocked that she actually hit me with her buggy that I couldn't say anything. DH was going to chase her down but I stopped him, (my hero :love: ) It is just sad to see it, I love Christmas and hate to see people so caught up in the shopping frenzy that they lose site of the wonder of the season.

I guess my goal for December is going to be not to gain, as the doc says no exercise right now:nono:

I wish you all could see my cockatoo right now, she is eating sweet potatoe and has it all over her beak! She keeps packing her lower beak and says MMM, MMM the whole time:rofl:
DH just caught me on the puter and fussed at me for getting up so I guess I'd better go for now.

I'll sneak by later and catch up with everyone!!


12-08-2005, 10:38 PM
hey Suzette- hope your best rest doesn't drive you crazy- when i was down for a week i wanted to stomp everyone- no one could do anything right. it was boredom mainly.

Melissa- isn't that awesome when such blessings happen out of nowhere! things like that make me cry! well you coudl look at shopping with 4 kids as an adventure and maybe all that tugging and pulling will help burn a few calories.

Theresa- what is up with walmart these days? they redid ours and put stuff in the weirdest places! again the kids DVD's right in the toys??

I am offically TIRED! ready for bed and to go to sleep!

OK here's my NSV for today -and maybe the week :)
I have made today: 96 cupcakes & iced all pretty w/ sprinkles- 50 bags of Reindeer food ( the chocolate, PB & powdered sugar on crispex cereal that I could have eated bags of easy in about 2 seconds
48 muffins, 3 pans of PB fudge for 50 bags full, 100 homemade PB cups AND:

Drum roll please- I didn't taste test anything!!!!!!!!! Didn't even lick my fingers- of course i chewed gum violently the whole time but stuff for the bale sale is done and i am done- next bake sale I am buying bakery cookie and bagging them! this was too much!
WHOO HOOOOO!:carrot:

I have staging tomorrow night for the play and dress rehearsal Saturday and then all day Sunday- then Sunday night for the play.
I will be tired but a good tired. house is a mess but who cares-in 500 years no one will care! so i can clean later :D

See ya'll tomorrow!

12-09-2005, 12:21 AM
Last chance for christmas card exchange-Get your addresses in! I will PM addresses out sometime tomorrow.

12-09-2005, 12:24 AM
Melissa, you are so inspiring to me because you keep going no matter what. Even with all that has hit you, you don't even think of quitting, you just keep going. You are the Summer Starter energizer bunny! It has to be unbelievably hard and when I start to feel like it's too hard for me I think of all you're going through and remind myself that it's not even half as hard on me as on you and if you can do it...SO CAN I. Your attitude keeps me going...that and my green envy of Kayelle being at MY goal weight :p I just wanted to let you know that you setting this ticker back and moving forward is very inspiring to me and I need that.

Sandi, you're so much stronger than I am, I could have never made all that without slipping up at least a little...and probably more than a little. Great job, that NSV is huge enough for the whole week I think!

Suzette, what are you on bedrest for? Did I miss something? People are rude at this time of year so I hear, but I have never had a personal bad experience myself. Maybe it's because I shop while most people are working?

I am going to set my weekly goals from WI to WI, which starts a new one tomorrow. I need to detox from sugar again :( Thanksgiving cookies just threw me off and I haven't been able to recover, and it's making me feel icky and holding back the loss, I can feel it. So, that is my goal for the next week, rest of the month probably, NO SUGAR. I think it took like 2 weeks for the cravings to go away last time.


12-09-2005, 11:29 AM
Sandi- You are amazing!!!!!!!!
Suzette-i hope the next few days are easy for you and you recover fully.
Melissa- How ever can you get thru a store with 4? I do think you will feel better when you have the right stuff in the house. Has miserable EX come thru yet with the $$$ he owes you? He belongs in jail.
Theresa- You never give up either!!!
It's snowong hard here. It's the first real storm of the season. DH is away till Sunday. My house is a huge mess because for the last 2 weeks I haven't cared about it at all, so I think today will be a big cleanup, after I do my work for the day and then read last Sunday's papers, a few magazines and my book. The mess will wait for me.
Food has been ok. I was not OP yesterday. Ice cream for lunch, but still under 1200 calories so I will not be a crazy about it.
Is ist snowong at anyone else's town?

12-09-2005, 11:55 AM
I think too many people get stressed out during this time of year instead of enjoying the moment and remembering the reason for the holiday thus making them cranky and sometimes outright mean and it is a shame. I just smile and say Merry Christmas if it happens and then try to avoid the person.

I too am wondering what the bedrest is for-I missed it too. You will be in my prayers.

I am not sure how strong I am but I do know I am pretty determined and sometimes outright stubborn. I have been that way my mother says since I learned the word "no". I just tell people that now I use my powers for good instead of evil-LOL. Been rough couple of days since Logan is teething and just wants to be held and fussed over. Tomorrow is grocery day! woohoo!! Sunday I will weigh in and have menus done for at least 4 days so there is no guess work or wondering. Time to really get back into the saddle and get rid of this weight. I am amazed at the difference in how I feel these days. Tired, cranky (partly pre-tom i am sure) and just no energy and run down and with all these kids, I just don't have that luxery.

I am going to have to do a bit of baking-partly because I don't feel I should come empty handed to the other side of the family for Christmas and Josh got very concerned that there be cookies out for Santa. He is really into it this year and Odessa is also very aware. Amanda just feels the lights on the tree are for her to play with. The playpen didn't work this year since the girls are both tall enough to reach so that good idea was out the window. I need to wake up sleepy head so he can get ready for school and get things put back in order so the kids have something to undo during the day LOL

12-09-2005, 12:02 PM
NO money from miserable ex yet and yes I agree maybe some time in jail might wake him up. What gets me is that he is breaking a court order! He is ordered to pay that amount every month and he just gets to keep sliding all the time.

As for the store....I get one of those monster carts. Logan sits in the regular seat and the girls sit next to each other in the very front of the cart. Only hard thing is Josh doesn't understand that he is almost 100lbs and he just doesn't fit and needs to walk. I did start letting him pick things off the shelf that we are shopping for and pick produce ect and that does help. I tell him that the other kids can't do that since they are babies and it is a big help for me. He does enjoy it and it makes things nice and then I let him pick 1 treat for being such a good helper. As long as I leave here about 9a, I can be done before kids get hungry for lunch and of course the first place we stop is the bakery so they can get their free cookie.

We had snow but it is gone. It wound up coming last week when I was supposed to get the kids pics done and plus the day before Maryann(other grandma) and some family friends were going to come visit for the day so I could get logan set up with wic and take him in for shots. I wound up taking them all with me-I was pooped out big time. I am hoping that we get some for Christmas since I don't have to drive anywhere. Maryann's brother is driving and he is a professional driver so I am not worried about it.

12-09-2005, 12:39 PM
Melissa, good luck at the store. I cannot imagine it with 4...or maybe it's because Tyler is just now starting the terrible 2 behavior and he can equal 2 kids at times. Allie is not that bad anymore, long as we go through the bakery first so they get freebies like it sounds you guys do as well. Our store puts out more than cookies, there are usually three to four options of freebies, like mini muffins and cupcakes, etc. Kids love it.

We got some ice last night, but not much. No snow, don't get that very often here. Long as we don't have another huge ice storm I'm fine...a few years back we lost our electricity for 2 weeks due to an enormous ice storm...all our windows were coated so we couldn't see out, all doors iced shut, etc. Stores sold out of kerosene heaters, oil lamps, etc. and then lots of people died when all the stations ran out of kerosene and people were putting gasoline in their heaters and they would blow up or start fires, miserable. Allie was just an infant when that happened and Steve was out on the road so I was alone with her and it was very scary. Never want to do that again.

I'm starting sugar detox today and am determined to get off it. No loss this week, but not gain either so I guess that's okay.


12-09-2005, 05:23 PM
:dance: I tried on some jeans today and took in 20 and 22, thinking for sure the 20 wouldn't fit since the ones at home don't...but I tried them on first and they fit PERFECT! It has been a long time since I've worn jeans that actually fit, not too baggy or too tight, and I feel amazing in them. I have been not buying clothes for years, thinking why put out the money when I'm going to lose and move into smaller sizes. But, thinking of going to the party tomorrow either in baggy or tight ones made me rethink that. I have gone down a size and I deserve one pair of jeans that fit really well and compliment me. I am glad I bought them :D


12-09-2005, 05:38 PM
Good for you Theresa. I look forward to nice clothes that I buy because I like them, not because I am grateful that they fit.

12-09-2005, 05:42 PM
I finally figured out how to get an atavar from my photo files. That's me and a friend on the beach last January, happily missing 10 days of miserable winter. I hope this works.

12-09-2005, 06:24 PM
Theresa,:bravo: on the new jeans, it always feels great to buy a smaller size.

Melissa, I hope you get your money soon. I think there should be a national law forcing these deadbeats to pay their support on time. It's not right that they can slide by month after month.:judge:

To answer your questions, the reason I'm on bedrest is I have 2 ovarian cysts, one has ruptured and the other is bleeding. Bad thing about it is when I was having a lot of abdominal pain 3 weeks ago, the Dr I saw then said I had gastroenteritis and told me to drink clear liquids for a few days. After 3 weeks I went to my regular Dr and she found the cysts. Hopefully with bedrest I won't have to have any surgery.:no:

I recently joined netflix in order to save money on dvd rentals and found out they have a good selection of exercise videos. I figure it will be a good way to try them out before I buy!!! I'll let you know how it works out when I can start exercising again.

NSV for today----I haven't stomped my hubby yet!!!!

Check in later, Suzette

12-09-2005, 10:39 PM
Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well, Suzette. I hope you can get back on your feet soon and don't need the surgery. I'm glad that at least your doctor was able to diagnose the problem.

Hooray, Theresa on the new jeans!! Doesn't it feel great to go down a size?? It's turned me into a shopaholic...I was never much interested in clothes until I started losing weight. Now you can go to the party and not worry about what you are wearing, know you look great, and just enjoy yourself!

Great picture, Laura...I love the beach! Especially this time of year I would really love to go for a stroll on a nice warm beach. We can never get away during the school year so our trips always have to be in the summer and we never get to get away from our lovely midwest winters.

Melissa I hope your shopping trip goes well! You are so brave! I don't know how you do it. I remember how hard it is to take just 2 little ones to the store.

Sandisuze...THAT is a lot of baking! You are amazing for not sampling!! I have been in the mood to do some Christmas baking (and it's a VERY rare thing that I'm in the mood to do ANYTHING in the kitchen besides EAT) but I've been afraid to do it because I know I'll want to eat it. I am in awe of you for making all that yummy stuff and not eating any of it! Great job!

We've got quite a bit of snow on the ground here and it's been SO COLD! Like -9 the past two mornings, and -14 the morning before that. Awful. I hate the cold, but the snow is really sparkly and pretty right now at least. Hopefully it'll warm up at least a little bit soon, though. I don't even like to leave the house when it's this cold out, and my house doesn't feel all that warm, either.

Tomorrow is the first Christmas party of the season for us. We have at least one every weekend from now until New Year's. It's fun but I do worry about getting off track and having a hard time getting back on. The one tomorrow night shouldn't be too bad. I am taking some almost fat free appetizers to share and lots of diet pop to drink and I know there won't be tons of things there that will be too tempting for me so I'm not stressing about it too much. The one next Saturday at my that one will be tough. She always has tons of candies and cookies and party mix and I could go on and on. I will have to keep reminding myself how SICK I felt Thanksgiving night after spending all day at her house. I know I can have a few special treats, but I just feel so yucky when I overeat and it's not worth it.

12-09-2005, 11:19 PM
I was off track again today. Below 1200 calories, but some of it was 4 cookies. I really have to plan ahead to stay OP.
Tomorrow night I am going to a dinner party. 3 of my friends and I are doing the food. I can stay OP if I stay out of the appetizers, bread, drinks and dessert. The main course is chicken, rice, salad, string beans. It will be hard. I must keep telling myself how good I will feel if I do it and how miserable I will feel if I fall off. i can't drink because DH is away so I am driving, and the dessert really can be passed over.
Suzette- It sounds like you must be in pain and I hope yourecover soon without having to stomp on your DH. I just looked at netflix and they certainly have a lot of exercise dvds. I do love netfix.
Kayelle-I will think of you when I am struggling to stay OP tomorrw night.

12-10-2005, 01:07 AM
Suzette, so sorry about the cysts, it sounds so painful. Does hubby know he's in the danger zone when he comes near you? :lol:

Good luck on you party tomorrow Kayelle! We are getting up early to watch the Christmas parade downtown here in our little bitty town, then going to MILs because she is paying us to muck the horse stalls for her, then home to clean up and go to the Christmas party. I'm not looking forward to any of it really, but I am looking forward to wearing my new jeans :carrot:

I feel kind of silly about the jeans because they are the new fashion style, and I used to just buy the normal old styled jeans, you know high waists and narrow ankle holes :lol: I love the way these new ones feel and fit and how they look, but it's what the "young" people wear and I feel I shouldn't. My mom laughed at me and said I'm only 29 I AM young. I guess I just feel over the hill. But I will wear them because I like them and think they look good.


12-10-2005, 01:11 AM
suzette, i hope you are well soon and off your bed rest. that doesn't sound like fun at all. i am so glad i bought all my gifts online this year so i don't have to deal with all the rude shoppers. you wouldn't catch me dead in the wal-mart toy section here -- the rest of the store is bad enough year round. i bet it is murder now!
congrats on the new jeans theresa, that's awesome!
i'm not sure what is with me today. i slept until two, then got up for a couple minutes, and then slept until four. at five i went back to sleep and then i got up at 8:30. i bet i am going to be up all night. that's no good. i have so been stressing about this job. i really hope they call me first thing on monday and tell me one way or the other because this waiting is driving me nuts!
candice :sp:

12-10-2005, 10:36 AM
Get well soon Suzette-that sounds so painful!

Cadwell there is nothing worse than waiting to hear about a job or test results! Just know that if it is your job all will fall into place.

Theresa I am so glad to hear about your jeans and yes you are still young! You won't really realize it until you get into my age bracket. You enjoy those jeans cause you deserve it!

Today is shopping day and I have mixed feelings. Both Odessa and Logan were up at 5a today and Logan just went down for a snooze after playing and having some breakfast. I would love to be able to sleep all night again. Getting up this early wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't been up at least once in the night. I figured Logan would sleep better since he didn't go down until 730 and he had a full tummy. Boys definately eat more often. Logan just started giving kisses-they are very wet and juicy but he is a kissing bandit! I cracked up laughing the other day cause Logan drooled on Odessa and she was absolutely grossed out by it. She just carried on and kept telling me "gross". How quickly they don't remember what drool machines they were at one time. Since I have a couple hours at least before other people wake up, I guess I will clean out the fridge and get some stuff straightened up. When I get home, I will get those menus done. I am really feeling great about getting totally back OP but a littel apprehensive about getting on the scale tomorrow. What a riot-I eat OP and can't leave the scale alone but since I have been mostly off-I haven't been anywhere near it or even thought about weighing myself. Will check in later

12-10-2005, 03:53 PM
Well the shopping is done and everyone came out alive. Of course now I am ready for a nap but I need to do laundry and start the bath brigade too. I got my menus done through Thursday too-woohoo. Has anyone tried that weight control instant oatmeal yet? I bought some today to try. I just can't believe how expensive it is. Of course healthy food is more expensive. I figured it out and the other night when I made top ramen for the kids, it cost me a whole .50 to feed the whole family but at what price really?

12-11-2005, 03:55 AM
:wave: I did it!! I bribed the guard :burger:(my dog who barks everytime I move), snuck past the sleeping general :fr:(dh), climbed down the mountain, ;) ( 2 flights of stairs) and infiltrated the communications room :comp: .(can you tell I'm bored???)

Melissa, glad to hear you finally got to go grocery shopping. I don't know how you managed with 4 kids:dizzy: I hope the miserable ex coughs up the support soon, :rollpin:

Theresa, you earned those new jeans so go out and strut your stuff girl, You Rock!!!:dancer:

Candace, I hope you hear good news about the job real soon:crossed: :goodluck:

Laura B, just keep taking it day by day, each day is one day further from the old Laura and one day closer to the new, fabulous you!!!:encore:

Kayelle, you are truly an inspiration to us all. Everytime I look at what you have accomplished it helps me realize that I can do this weight loss thing. So, :thanks: for being a bright light in a long tunnel.

Ok, I know, enough with the smilies!!!!

Time to sneak back upstairs, Have a great day everyone!!!

(This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds in order not to incriminate the writer):s: :bomb:

12-11-2005, 12:52 PM
ROFLMBO!!!!! Too funny! Boredome is sometimes one of the great aspects of creativity. Sorry it is so boring for you but remember you are important and even though it is hard, gotta follow dr.s orders! I wound up getting menus done for the whole week and there is only going to be a day that I will have to fix. I just found out this morning Maryann is coming to visit today so that will be a portion that I have to factor out-but oh it is sooooo worth it. It will be so nice to see another grownup-even though my house is a mess. After the shopping yesterday, I wasn't worth a plug nickle and my hips were killing me along with the lower back. I feel much better today and took an extremely hot shower to loosen up the muscle. I will check in later on. Right now gotta run around like crazy before she gets here.

12-11-2005, 01:38 PM
Good morning everybody!

Melissa glad you survived your shopping trip! Sounds like it was exhausting and glad that you are feeling better today. Hope you have an enjoyable visit, too! Good job with the menus...that's a great way to stay on track. I am the same way about not wanting to step on the scale if I've eaten something that I feel like I shouldn't. I usually just allow myself a few days off until I feel like I'm back on track. your post! And yes, you CAN do this weight loss thing!! It just takes lots of time and patience and not giving up. I still struggle with old habits wanting to sneak up and take over sometimes, I just have to remind myself how hard I worked to get to this point and how much better healthier I feel and more confidence I have.

candice...guess you needed to catch up on sleep! You must have been overly tired and needed the sleep. Hope you hear about the job soon and hope it's great news!

Theresa I know exactly what you mean about the new style jeans. I'm 35 (29 sounds sooo young to me) and really felt weird wearing the new styles at first, but now I love them. How did the party go? I'm sure you looked fabulous in your new jeans and I hope you had a great time.

Laura those 4 little cookies wouldn't hurt you since you stayed in your calorie range anyway. You did great to not let them lead to a binge! Did you have a good time at the party? Hope it was fun!

The party I went to was lots of fun and I was able to stay on track so I'm pretty pleased. The meat was pork loin and I don't eat pork at all so that was easy. There was a huge table full of yummy appetizers but there were a few guilt-free choices so I was ok there. The dessert table was small and I had a harder time staying away from that but I somehow managed without even a sample (I really wanted one of those oreo balls but I resisted). Sweets are just really hard for me still sometimes. I had some grapes and cantaloupe before I left home so I know that helped me get through the night. I did keep a bottle of Diet A&W in my hand all night to sip on, too, and that helped me stay away from the Irish Cream & Buttershots (my fave). So...I had a good night overall and it was A LOT of fun so I'm really glad we went.

We got home late so I slept in this morning and then started off my day with my Tae Bo cardio DVD and I plan on getting on the nordictrack for a while this afternoon. I find working out is the only way I can keep warm lately. My hands and feet are freezing all the time.

Hope everybody is having a great Sunday!

12-11-2005, 02:25 PM
I am so glad you had fun and I can't wait to get to where you are! I guess you could say I am fortunate on one hand that there are no parties for me to attend during the holidays although I do miss the adult conversation that goes with it. With all my kids, we don't get invited over much and I can't blame anyone either. Amanda has officially started the twos and is into everything! I can't get over how busy she has become. Everyone keep up the good work!

12-11-2005, 03:57 PM
Best part of the party: a girl of about 11 or 12 was followig me around to play with Tyler and ask how old I was. I told her almost 29 and her eyes got real wide and she said "you don't look that old. I thought you were a teenager and had all these kids!" :lol: She's too young to know what teenagers look like I guess.

Oh, but if hubby's ex-girlfriends looks could kill, I'd have been dead on the floor the second we walked in that. She kept giving me these horrible looks, like I murdered someone. I just brushed it off and ignored her.

I got to go Christmas shopping today....ALONE!!! Hubby and I struck up a deal, I got to go shopping while he kept the kids, and now he is out joy riding the motorcycle while I keep them. It was nice to be on my own, even in the mess called Walmart. I saw this man slam his cart into another cart on purpose and yell at this scared lady "Move outta my f***ing way!" It was a very loud bang when he slammed the carts and it pushed her cart into a display and knocked a few things to the ground, then he pushed by her because everyone had cleared the way for him. His wife went along behind him, eyes on the ground, red faced, and I wondered what it is like to live with someone with that much anger.

Kayelle, glad you got to stay OP at your party. I hardly ate anything at mine because I shared my plate with Ty and he ate about all of it...good way to control it I guess!

Melissa, very glad you have good food in the house again. You deserve that and much, much more.

Cadwell, nice day of napping there! Your body must have needed it and it helped you pass one day of waiting, so no harm done I'd say. Bet you were up all night though!


12-11-2005, 04:21 PM
Hi ladies,
Good to see everyone in such good spirits!!

Suzette-You are a crackup! Hope you feel better soon!

Theresa- :carrot: WooHoo!! New jeans! I wore my 20's today, not too bad! How was the party???
We only have one party this year, next Sunday at church, shouldn't be too bad, I will take something healthy. There is actually a weight loss group at my church called Prism. I read through thier literature and said NO WAY! It's like a cross between Atkins and Sugar Busters-no carbs, no sugars, no white anything. You have to sign an agreement that you will follow all the rules and you have a buddy to call if you break a rule. I am in this for a lifestyle change and that is just something I cannot follow for the rest of my life.

Kayelle-I have to echo everyone else-You are an inspiration!! Don't ever feel unworthy of our praises! You started where we did and you are where we would like to be. We all wish we had your determination! GOOD JOB!!

Melissa-Once again you managed to get shopping done with those little ones :bravo: I can see why you would have no energy afterwards. I still haven't managed to sit down and make a menu, kind of hard right now with no stove, but the landlord promised someone will be here this week. (I'm not holding my breath!!) My kids don't mind living off Hot Pockets and waffles! Hubby will be on his 6 days off starting Tuesday, so I hope someone does show up for the stove!

Have you all read through food here at 3FC? There is so much! I got some really good chicken recipes last night. I have to go look up some beef today. Hubby's brother is a cowboy and got a whole cow, and is giving us half! Will definitely help on the food bill, just wish I liked beef more! Chicken is my choice. Too bad he didn't work on a chicken ranch!!!:dizzy:

Well, gotta get these kids moving. All they want to do is watch cartoons today!


12-11-2005, 08:01 PM
Kathy I much prefer chicken over beef, also. I grew up on a cattle & hog farm so three meals a day guess what we ate...some form of beef and/or pork. I haven't touched either one for about 8 years now...I think I just had enough of it and don't want any more. And I agree about the recipes...there are some great ones here, but I am not much of a cook so I only look at the really easy ones. I could never do the no-carb thing, either...I like my carbs way too much. There is no way I could stick with something like that.

Theresa sounds like you made hubby's ex-gf jealous with your youthful looks and new jeans! Why else would she be giving you the evil eye? You should take it as a compliment...along with the compliment from the little girl. Sounds like you had a good night! Yikes re: the guy you saw shopping. Sounds like he should have stayed home today. I haven't seen any shopping rudeness yet this Christmas season, probably because I'm not willing to brave the weekend crowds. I've done all my Christmas shopping on weekdays so far this year and it's much more enjoyable for me.

Melissa it would definitely be easier for me if I didn't have any parties to worry about, but most of my husband's and my families live nearby so we always have lots of parties to go to and there are some amazing cooks in both of our families, also. Makes it difficult to get through the month. Too bad all of the Summer Starters didn't live close together...we could have our own Christmas party with all our families and lots of healthy food that we could all enjoy. That would be fun.

I did get on the Nordic track this afternoon but only for 15 minutes. The cardio DVD I did this morning is over 40 minutes long and is really intense so that will be enough for today. I've also had kind of a hungry day but I am handling it ok with fresh fruit & baby carrots and it's almost time for dinner so I should be fine for the rest of the night after that. My husband is making my favorite meal tonight...low fat homemade veggie pizza on whole wheat crust and it's really filling.

12-11-2005, 08:45 PM
Kathy I actually DID PRISM once. I made it for about 8 weeks and just couldn't take it anymore. I was doing the daily lessons since I have the books and will start them again since it does help keep me motivated but I did find it too restrictive and not a realistic way for me to spend the rest of my life. The one that has worked best for me is WW since there is nothing I CAN'T have I just have to count it and it is much more doable. I stayed OP today and can't believe how much better I already feel! Maryann wound up leaving before dinnertime so no refiguring anything out. I guess the family is going to take Odessa Christmas Eve overnight so that will be one less kid. They would have taken Amanda too but she is funny about being away from home and me which is fine.

My ex was a no show today too. He called at 1030a to say he would be late getting josh because he had to go to the hospital (full of poopoo) and geez now it almost 5p my time and still no show. I sometimes really detest him.

Maryann got Odessa the cutest dress for pictures next week and it even came with a Santa hat. Dess is wearing it now and saying HOHOHO. Maryann is going back to get a matching one for Amanda-those are going to be awesome pictures! The boys won't look nearly as kewl but I am sure Logan will wind up with Amandas santa hat.

12-11-2005, 10:29 PM
Well, you all sound terrific and I am glad. I, however, blew it real bad for the last 24 hours. Lots of stuff went wrong, my mom is here, DH was away for 3 nights and I was ok. Then I got dressed for dinner at a friends. I wore nice black velvet pants and a top that I bought that was too tight and now it fit and it wasn't my usual big shirt. I felt like I looked good so I ruined it by eating and eating and eating-probably 4000 calories at least. I ate 1/2 a box of cookies and cheese and nuts and more.
I'm sure it was a reaction to feeling good about how I looked. I was ok at dinner, but when I got home and my mom was asleep and I was alone, I started. This is old stuff for me, and I'm done now. I feel like I can get back OP right now.
None of it really tasted so good. It's so stupid.

12-12-2005, 11:15 AM
You aren't alone Laura-I wound up blowing it last night too and for the life of me I don't even know why I did it. It was the same for me-not as yummy as I thought it would be and so so stupid. We both will shrug it off and get right back on track.

12-12-2005, 11:51 AM
I think it's just so hard to eat right this month. You are both doing the right thing putting it behind you and just getting right back at it. I am really struggling every day to stay on track but after my big falling off at Thanksgiving I felt so rotten that it's been motivation for me to not let it happen again because I hate feeling that way. It is really hard, though, I would just love to dig into some sugary junk and I hadn't been having that problem for a long time. We will all just have to muddle through and support each other....we can all get through this!

12-12-2005, 12:24 PM
I am trying very hard to get back on track after a terrible 24 hours. I put on tight jeans so I would have a constant reminder of what I want. I can also look at my avatar, me on the beach, I'm on the right, and remember how awful I felt last winter in a bathing suit, with a men's XXXL shirt to hide it all.

12-12-2005, 01:51 PM
I agree with things not tasting good anymore. I ate a strawberry shortcake little debbie roll thing, which I used to absolutely love, but it was so sweet and sugary I couldn't stand it. I don't know how I used to eat the entire box in one day, it was so horribly sweet.

Hubby had a stomach thing of some sort over the weekend and now I have it. He's out on the road just getting over it, poor guy. I would have called off probably! I'm just doing my best to not pass it on to the kids, walking around with a spray can of disinfectant and blowing kisses instead of smothering their little cheeks. With the fits Allie has been throwing, not hard to keep distance from her today.

Melissa, why not just let the boys wear the hats, that way they do coordinate with the girls. They could wear white or red shirts and the hats and it will all look like you planned it all out. Allie had one of those santa dresses last year, and Tyler had a little santa suit and the pictures are priceless. This year Allie has her eye on a pink and black one, which is pretty but doesn't look like Christmas to me...apparently it is to others, because it's int he Christmas dress display thingy. Their appointment is next Friday so I'll get something by then I guess.


12-12-2005, 02:37 PM
That is a good idea-hopefully Odessa will part with hers-LOL. Today is visit day for Logan so we will see if she shows up and has more of Logan's things for him to take home. I found out I don't have to take him the day after Christmas so I am glad. It is going to be a huge busy two days full of stimulus and sugar and I think the kids will really need that day to be home and detox. Sorry to hear you guys are under the weather again! Logan is a bit congested but it is teeth related. He is just biting everything he can get his hands on and drooling to beat the band. I think I got my brain back on ok today and still not sure what got into me last night. It is getting cold here again and I am wondering if we are going to get more snow. I know it would make Joshua's day.

12-12-2005, 03:31 PM
Melissa, when she goes to sleep you can hide the hats and I bet they will forget about them. I do this to my kids all the time and so far it has always worked. When it comes time for pictures, pull them out and stick on the boys heads and hope she doesn't remember and scream :lol:I bet she'll just forget it though!

I think I am feeling a little better. I did my second workout and my body is starting to loosen up some. I was so stiff feeling this morning, after only doing the gazelle and no dancing a few days. Glad to be back full swing, even with the belly thing!


12-12-2005, 03:44 PM
It is officially Christmas! Amanda knocked my tree over and it sure scared the poo out of her too. She broke my angel treetopper that I have had for years but otherwise things weren't too bad. Last year it was Odessa who knocked it over. I guess it will be Logan's turn next year!

12-12-2005, 05:31 PM
:lol: I have never had the tree completely knocked over, but Tyler keeps pulling the bulbs off, removing the hooks, and dropping them down into the branches toward the middle. It looks bald and I have to put it back together. I focus more on finding the hooks right now so no one gets hurt.

I don't think Allie will believe in santa for long, she keeps getting into the closet where all the presents are and come Christmas I'm just waiting for her to say "Santa didn't buy this!"

I am feeling better guys, a bit queasy but am keeping food and water down just fine. Allie scribbled all over hubby's Christmas bonus check and I went to the bank hoping they would accept can make out everything on it, it's just scribbled all over. They said they could take it, but to wait a couple days in case it gets sent back. I hope it doesn't because I already spent the money before I deposited it :o if it comes back we are going to be overdrawn and have a fee. I am really starting to hate Christmas's only fun for the kids :( or maybe I"m just grumpy still.


12-12-2005, 08:13 PM
It feels so much better to be OP. I must keep reminding myself of how awful I feel after I fall off.
Theresa-Let us know how the visit with Kate went. I do hope she is losing interest and stops showing up. I feel bad for Kate, but the little one come first since they are powerless.

12-12-2005, 08:22 PM
Kate was late for her visit today and Michelle said it looks like she is homeless right now. They apparently got a third name for a possible father for Logan but she assured me there was no way he would ever gain custody so I had nothing to worry about. I guess both Logan and Kate took a nap for most of the visit today and Michelle said she looked dirty. It just kills me and she could have things so differently if she made the right choices.

12-12-2005, 08:54 PM
Theresa-It must make you sad to hear that she is not doing well, but you are doing great and the kids have a good life with you and that's a choice that Kate made. At least she had enough sense to make sure you got them. Why is she only interested in Logan and not the girls? It's better for the girls.

12-13-2005, 10:15 AM
Sorry to hear about your daughter Melissa. I am sure it just tears you apart to know how she is living. I am so glad you have the kids with you. They are so lucky to have you.

Well, I managed to make it throught the day yesterday and I am feeling better and stronger today. I even got up early (before 5) to exercise before work and then they called a 2 hour late start due to fog, so I could have slept later and still had time to exercise, but that's ok. My daughter has a band concert tonight so at least I won't have to worry about trying to fit exercise in after work.

Hope everybody has a great day!

12-13-2005, 10:44 AM
Laura, you have me mistaken with Melissa...she's our superwoman, I don't come close :lol:

Melissa, I bet it is incredibly horrible to be in your shoes. I'm sure it is painful to hear about your daughter being dirty and possibly homeless, but at the same time that works in your favor for keeping Logan safe with you. Sounds like you're probably torn with emotion for them both. I cannot imagine how you get through it, but it sounds like it's not the first time so maybe not so hard this time around. Logan comes first, though I wish there was a way to save Kate as well...seems she doesn't want to be saved though.

I kept OP yesterday and got in 2.5 hours execise and feel good today. I have to clean my messy house and don't want to though.


12-13-2005, 11:16 AM
I really don't know why she is more interested in Logan the girls Laura. I think once the ink was dry, she just figured she lost and would just distance herself and then totally focused on Logan since he at this time has no Father where the girls do. I guess she named another fella and Michelle told me no worries about him ever getting custody. It sounded to me yesterday that she knows Kate isn't able to care for Logan but the whole thing is a process and she is trying to get Kate some services and see if she can get some help. It is so very hard because on the one hand she is my only daughter and I love her but I have to be hard in order to keep the kids all safe and secure. At least at this point and time, she doesn't want to be saved. I blew it again yesterday too. I know I am just letting things get to me so I must focus!

My mom called me last night and apparently the gals she plays cards with once a month adopted my little motley crew and bought the kids clothes and some toys and put money in an envelope and told me to get my haircut LOL. I haven't been able to get my hair done since I got the girls in May of 2004! I am just blown away at all the way God is meeting our needs this month and then some. Now I just need to get my head out of the fog and get it going again before I wind up back where I was. I do not want that to happen.

12-13-2005, 11:36 AM
Melissa- You are the SuperWoman. I think Kate's not caring very much about the girls would have an affect on any effort she might have to get Logan. She certainly hasn't shown any ability to tend to her daighters, so why would any court let her near Logan?
Theresa- You're awfully good too.
Melissa- Maybe the next few days shoould be about not gaining any weight back, and if you don't lose any, it's ok. It just adds more pressure to such a tense time regarding the kids and the holidays. So if you can stay OP, it's teriffic, and if you go over your points just a little bit, it's ok. No binges, no craziness. The holidays are over in just 2 weeks and the New Year brings new welcome resolve. I think this is one day at a time time. I think I'm going to do that starting Saturday night, our next party. Friday night we have to take 2 people out to dinner for work, and I think I can manage that, but I think Saturday night's goal we be to stay within 2000 calories for the day. No lose, no gain. What do you all think?

12-13-2005, 12:05 PM
Laura, I think you are very right. Just get through this month and then you can turn your focus back to the weight loss. Right now there is just so much gong on for everyone.

Melissa, don't be so hard on yourself. Look at all you are dealing with right now! Something has to give, and it cannot be the kids so it has to be this. I think you should do as Laura and focus just on maintaining until the holidays are over. Then you can settle into normal routine--there can be no normal when you have kids in December--and get back to it. Christmas is a very hard time to adjust to a new baby and dealing with Kate, so just cut yourself some slack and look forward to January. Enjoy the kids and their Christmas excitement, and just hope not to gain. I'm rooting for ya!

I am feeling the pressure here myself as I watch the bank with my breath held. Spending money before it's actually in the bank is a no no and I know better, but I just caught the shopping bug and now since Allie colored over the check it's taking longer to get credited and I'm hoping they will push it through before our car insurance comes out ***CRINGE*** I will hate it if part of our next paycheck has to go to cover overdraft charges on Christmas shopping that really could have waited.

I really blame hubby because he said he was going to do the deposit, so when he left out I assumed he did that. Next thing I find the check, on the floor, scribbled all over, and suddenly realized he didn't take it! Had he done his job, it wouldn't have happened...also, I would have put it up where kids couldn't get it, he doesn't think like that though.

Tyler is in a mean phase, hitting nonstop and he just nailed me in the back with a drum stick. How do I break him of this? Nothing I do seems to work.


12-13-2005, 01:44 PM
Letting myself off the hook sounds like a great idea! I will just try to maintain over the next few weeks and watch what I eat and more importantly what time I do it. As for Tyler...I suppose anything he hits with needs to be taken away and let him see you throw it in the garbage-you can always take it out later and hide it until he gets over it. Tell him if he can't be nice with the toy it is going to go away. Amanda's thing is hitting in the face, pulling hair and jumping on people and I have yet to break her of that. With Dess, just getting down to her level and telling her it isn't nice, reduces her to tears and then I make her say she is sorry for hitting. She doesn't do it hardly at all anymore but she is 3 now too.

Mom went to see Narnia today and I am sooooo jealous! I want to go see it so bad but I will have to wait until it comes out for rental and get it then unless there is a miracle-LOL. Jason is supposed to be home on the 22nd so maybe if he comes up early I will foist the kids on him hehehe. We will see. Well I am off to mop and get some more of this muck mucked out here-it is just never ending.

12-13-2005, 01:51 PM
hey everyone :wave: just stopped by to say that I am still among the living - Tho the "diet" has fallen to nothing ( eating better - whats that?) and i really was not in anyway OP at all these past few days -I am back to it TODAY! but one day at a time and no beating myself up over eating a cookie-
I didn't get home til 10 o'clock for 3 nights in a row and last night i crashed early. I am on lunch so just jotting a quick HI and missed you all !
I will get on later and re read post etc..
see ya'll later!

12-13-2005, 08:45 PM
Sandi, join the club and just try to maintain until the new year...only a few weeks, we can make it ladies!

I found a new exercise program that is FREE and that I love. It's a new show on FitTV called All Star Workout, it's on at 9AM and 5PM and will have different well known fitness people teaching different sorts of classes each day. I did a hip hop dance thing tonight that I just loved.It was challenging and fun and I sweated to death. I think I'm going to wait for it to be replayed and then tape it, it's an hour long and I am really looking for things with length like that...since everything I got now tops out at 20-30 minutes and I hate switching DVDs around.


12-13-2005, 09:07 PM
I TOTALLY agree That maintain is the word of the month.
I didn't eat "bad" Fri- Sat- Sun But i didn't eat very OP either.
although i was in a room with over 100 platters of cookies and I only ate 1 chocolate PB cookie. and we ran around like crazed people for 3 days 10 hours a day so i had to have gotten some exercise in - but the cantata was a huge success and everything was perfect. now i can relax till Easter!

I am now trying to catch up on housework and I am not doing a very good job of it.. oh well again tomorrow is another day and no one died from having a floor that needs a good sweeping. i used the excuse i needed to exercise instead- hubby bought it.. (shhh)
Theresa- theres alot of great shows on Fittv and another channel we get (?) that I have taped and tried- i liked a few and hated others. I hope all goes well with the check- i would be in a panic.
Melissa- I hope kate can get some help and make some better decisions -i am sorry this is happening in your family. and i agree with theresa & Laura- just chill and don't beat yourself up over everything!
Laura- I am with you on one day at a time- i have a party Friday night and a party Saturday night- friday will be tough as it is potluck and who knows what there will be -Sat will be easy as alot of others that will be there are dieting too!
Kayelle- I kept thinking of your success when i was faced with COOKIES & CANDY all weekend. Thanks!

Have a good night all - thanks again for Your support and friendship!

12-14-2005, 12:11 AM
I think we are doing the right thing with these 2nd half of December goals to not gain and maybe even lose. I felt less stressed today about food and weight etc, now that that goal is in mind and I don't think I had more than 1000 calories. I had 1/2 a grilled cheese and a pear for supper, no lunch and a cheesey egg for breakfast. Snack was a tiny dish of granola without milk and 2 cookies. Very not OP, but definately not a weight gain. I like it for a change. I also like knowing that come the morning of Jan 2, 2006, (after New Years Day party) I will be back OP and happy about it and definately not weighing more than I do today.
This is not permission to binge or use food emotionally etc. It just means that celebrating the season means enjoying food too, and not worrying or feeling like a failure or losing control and having to beat up on myself. Yea
I took my mom back to her house today after 5 days here with us. She is very forgetful, mobility is difficult and she just wants to stay in bed most of the day. We only left the house Saturday night. The rest of the time she slept, dozed or read the same thing over and over. DH is more upset than I am. He is crazy about her and can't stand to watch her fading away. I am stronger.

12-14-2005, 11:28 AM
Sorry to hear about your Mom, Laura. It's so hard to watch our parents/grandparents age. I know I just always expect them to stay how I remember them when I was little, but it just doesn't happen that way and it's really sad to deal with.

Sandi congrats on the successful contata! I'm sure it is a big relief to have that over with! Great job only having one cookie in a room full of them! I am hoping that I can be that strong at my Grandma's house on Saturday.

I haven't tried any of the exercise programs on TV, Theresa. Thanks for a great idea! I might just have to see what's on today. It would be fun to try something different.

Melissa I'm so glad that your mom's card playing friends are helping you out. Nobody deserves it more than you do, and I'm sure they can see that. You do so much for those kids. Enjoy the haircut! And I know you don't get much of a chance to do anything for yourself, but I do hope you can find a way to go see Narnia.

Well...yesterday was a late start due to school is cancelled due to snow so I get a nice unexpected day off. Sometimes I really love working in a school. Then again in the spring we have to make up these days when it's NICE outside, so that's not so great, either, but at least I get a lot of my summer off. I can really use the day today, though, to get some stuff done around the house and plan some Christmas activities for the kids. It gets harder as they get older but I still like to think of a few ways to make Christmas Eve and Christmas really special for them (with things other than presents). Suggestions are very welcome if anybody has any ideas (my kids are 13 and 15).

I am trying to plan ahead also so that I can get through Saturday without going on a binge. It will be in the evening so that helps, I'll be home most of the day and can stay on track with eating and get some exercise in. At Thanksgiving she had a noon meal and then everybody was just eating all day long. My plan for the night is to have the things I really want but only little bits of them, and pass completely on the things that aren't my favorites, and STOP when I'm not hungry anymore. I just don't want to make myself sick again...I have to keep reminding myself that it's just not worth it. I know I have a little bit of a buffer zone now and it's not the end of the world if I put a pound or two on this month, but I have such a terrible time getting back on track once I go off, and I HATE HATE HATE that icky full, sick feeling. So...I am going to join you all and do my best to maintain through the Christmas season. We can all do this!! I know we can!!

12-14-2005, 09:48 PM
Today was a good day with food, not wonderful and healthy, but less than 1200 calories.
Sandi- I'm glad your contata went well and so did the cookie challange.Which contata was it? I wish I could sing and be in a chorus, but alas I have a terrible time with intonation and my DH, who is a fine musician, says it's hopeless. I am a good listener, and now that the kids are out of the house we go to lots more concerts and the opera.
Kayelle- I like your plan I will do the same thing Saturday night.
Where is everyone????

12-14-2005, 10:33 PM
Another emotional day for me. Another group of my mom's blessed me immensly and I guess there is more coming. Logan has just been very clingy and calls mama constantly. I have hardly gotten anything done around here now for two days. I can go get Joshua a haircut and something decent to wear for the pictures on Saturday. I am just not even paying attention about food and I know I am eating too much. I keep wondering what my gig is and why I can't seem to stay focused enough to maintain during the month. It makes me mad at myself.

12-14-2005, 10:43 PM
Go easy on yourself Melissa. Do your best not to gain right now and things will be easier once the holidays are over. Would Josh look nice in a cotton turtleneck for the photos? My boys never had sport jackets except for the 2 times they were in a wedding party. They grow out of them so fast, it doesn't pay to spend the money. The same with real shoes versas sneakers. I only bought real shoes when there was a special occasion. My youngest son is wild for shoes now. He must have 20 pairs. Maybe he was shoe deprived by is thrifty mother. My oldest just wears one pair of sneakers everyday till they fall apart.

12-14-2005, 11:06 PM
I was thinking about a nice sweater or turtleneck for him. I am going with Theresa's idea and give the Santa hats to the boys to wear since I know Amanda will not where hers no matter what and that way they will look like they go together. Logan got the cutest Oshkosh overall outfit so I may go with that one for him. Josh will be in the back of the picture since he is so big and no one will see his Darth Vader shoes. It is getting hard to find character things since he is getting so big. Fred Meyer told me they could special order the underware but I would have to buy a case-no one needs that many pair of underware-LOL. He managed that one ok but he is having a harder time with the shoe thing. He gets some he likes and it is hard to get him to wear anything else. I bought him a pair of black rubber boots this summer because he was going to the river with his dad every weekend and just trashing his tennis shoes. That child would wear nothing else for months! It was hysterical. He would have on his shorts and a tank top and those black rubber boots. I am just glad he will look as nice as the other kids and I think we are going to have a great time on Saturday.

12-14-2005, 11:13 PM
I'm glad you are looking forward to a nice day. My Joe wore a pair of cowboy boots for months when he was 5. He wore them with everything. When we went to court to finalize his adoption, he wouldn't wear his new clothes and went in his cowboy outfit, plaid shirt, jeans, vest, belt and boots. He was adorable. I'm sure your kids will look gorgeous in their photo and I hope you will share it with all of us.

12-14-2005, 11:18 PM
I am going to get a disc so I will make sure everyone can see when they get here-too cute about your little fella. It is funny what things kids get attached to growing up. Amanda has just discovered clothes and is bringing me different outfits all the time. It just amazes me how different the girls are. Dess likes hats-Amanda doesn't. Dess loves shoes-I just got amanda to wear them like two weeks ago and it is only while we are going somewhere-as soon as we are home, off they come. Amanda is a jammie gal, dess takes hers off before getting under the covers. Those are just a few of the things and it just shoes how unique we all are and formulate opinions early on. Logan just went down and hopefully he will sleep all night again. He got a bottle about 1130p last night and then I heard nothing until almost 7a this morning. I am waiting for him to sleep all night so I can move him in with the girls and get my inner sanctum back. My room is the only place off limits in the house.

12-15-2005, 09:21 AM
wow, i guess it has been awhile -- had to catch up on all these posts. y'all have been busy! i'm glad that everyone seems to be taking it easy on themselves around the holiday and not going ballistic over slip-ups on holiday goodies and whatnot. come the new year, we can stay op til our hearts are content!
melissa, i agree with laura -- you are a "superwoman" :) i really hope somehow you and the kids can go see narnia. i bet it is going to be so good. i love the book, even all grown up.
i can't believe that guy with the cart! what a psycho!! he really needs to learn the meaning of the words "online shopping."
well i heard about the job i applied for and so far it's not yes and not no. these government jobs!! grr. because i am 4th rank in the online exam, they have to contact everyone in the top three ranks, statewide, to see if they are interested in the job. if no one responds, i get it. well what are the chances of that.. geez. the good news is, i did get a job at starbucks. assuming i don't hear from the folks at caltrans (which i suppose is slim to none), i will don the illustrious green apron on jan 2. yay, free coffee!!
more bad news - good news: i will probably blow my dec. 19 goal of 145.. but not by a lot. i am down another pound, so i have 4 days to lose 4 pounds. but it is great to be in 140s!! whoohoo!!

12-15-2005, 10:53 AM
:carrot: YAY cadwell in the 140s!!! That is a milestone for you, even though it's not your did come close though, so give yourself a break. Congrats on the job as well, and ya never know on the other one, it might come back to you somehow.

Melissa, good luck with the pictures on Saturday. I have an appointment for my kids to do that tomorrow but am not sure we'll make it. We got a lot of ice last night and the roads are bad today, so I am not going to go out which means I won't get outfits for the kids...or get to the grocery store we are very thin around here. Depending on how the roads are in the AM, I may just move the appointment to Sunday so steve can be here to drive us.

Kay, good luck on Saturday and if you don't pig out and feel sick consider it a success. I guess that's my plan for Christmas day. I decided to suck it up and go to MILs because that is what hubby wants and he feels it won't be Christmas to him without seeing his family. I am not sure if I have to bring something, she said "everyone is bringing a dish, unless I cater it," and since I don't talk to her I have no clue which way it is going or what to bring.

I spent yesterday at a friend's house, we are making these little books with sexy pictures of ourselves to give to our hubbies for Christmas. THey are coming out well, but I haven't taken my pics yet. I let her try the strip aerobics and she loved it, and was able to make copies of the dvd on her computer so she won't have to buy them. That is all that's up here. Diet wise, I'm just trying to do my best but it's not looking real pretty. Controlling portions, but it's not quality food these days.


12-15-2005, 11:23 AM
Congrats on the 140's! I can't wait to even just see the underside of 200! There is nothing wrong with working at starbucks. A job is a job and it will at least supliment you until you get the one you are wanting to really do.

Today I am home and going to try and get some things done around here. Logan is a broken record with the word Mama and I have been very occupied with him and what is left, Amanda has gotten. Friday is a haircut and small bit of shopping and then Saturday is pics and Santa so I may be a bit gone for that time. I found out there will 2 more drivers here for Christmas eve and Christmas Day. I told Maryann that if I can't open my home for the birth of Christ, there is a real issue and now it will be fine since I got that extra funding. Told her though to be prepared because I make a birthday cake and we sing happy birthday for Jesus and she thought it was neat idea. I just want the kids to know the real reason for the season.

12-15-2005, 05:56 PM
We are off to work for 2 days at a trade show in NJ. That's 5 meals out and then we will be back in time for a party Sat. night.
My friend is staying here with the dog so I had to clean a lot today, so at least I'll come home to a clean house. It's awful when I am away and I come home to a mess.
I'm not too worried about eating too much these next few days because I feel very in control since we set new goals. The last few days have been less than 1200 calories, including several Xmas cookies.
I hope everyone does ok and stays on the goals. I can't wait for Jan 2, when we can all get back OP.
Be back Sat or Sunday.

12-16-2005, 12:27 AM
I am with you Laura-I just need this to get done. I got a call tonite and my daughter and her boyfriend are back in jail again....I really don't know why she keeps having the bondsman call me to bail her out. She should know that I am already on a shoestring here with all the kids. I called Michelle because obviously I won't have to take Logan for his visit on Monday now. She won't be back in court for at least two weeks now. I can't imagine being in jail for Christmas-it just breaks my heart.

12-16-2005, 07:09 AM
melissa, i am sorry about kate. hopefully things will work out for her and she will straighten out her life. it takes work, but it is possible. my best friend and her neighbor did it.. they quit drugs and ditched their scumbag friends and boyfriends. but that is really the key i think.. she needs to ditch the loser guy. in the meantime though, she is very blessed to have you to look after her kids. even if she is in jail for christmas, that at least is a gift. she will very thankful for that once she finally gets her act together.
have fun in nj laura! ever since i saw harold and kumar go to whitecastle i have craving a trip to nj so i could have those little whitecastle burgers. well with the diet, its probably best its way too far to visit ever. lol. i have enough trouble resisting the in 'n' out urge. even after 6 months without it, the in 'n' out fire burns within. i think that will be my one indulgence when i reach my goal. that, and one california burrito from lolita's. after that, it will be all op for life for me!! i am not going to gain all that weight back again.
thanks for the congrats on the job melissa and theresa. i am actually looking forward to starting my job even though it is not the one in planning i was hoping to get. i have applied at starbucks about 30 times over the years and now they've finally hired me. it will be nice to have something to do besides play video games for a change. i have been so bored not working that i even got sick of my pirate game and have been teaching myself korean instead.

12-16-2005, 11:45 AM
I talked to SIL's driving partner yesterday and it looks like they will be home either late 21st or early 22nd. I think I am going to take them up on the offer to come before the holidays and I am going to a movie. I definately need some escapism. It will cost me more but I will take Joshua too so they just have the little ones. I have wanted to see it since I saw the trailer when I took Josh to see star wars. Mom said it was awesome and she is very picky about movies.
I had a hard time sleeping last night which is saying alot considering how my days go. Kate tried calling my parents last night too while they were at the store. It just amazes me the gall she has at times. She treats us all awful and then wants us to bail her out when she is in a jam. If I thought for one minute that she would go into treatment-ditch loser and get it together, I would use the Christmas money I got and bail her and bring her home. I really fear though that she hasn't gotten to the end of herself yet and I would just be enabling her and throwing money away when it could go for things for the kids. It is just so darn hard sometimes.

12-16-2005, 03:18 PM
Hey guys, our electric was out yesterday afternoon until 1PM today...darn ice storm! We had fun sitting in the cold, dark window watching it glow on the trees. Went shopping today and it was a mess with all the trees down, electric workers blocking off roads to fix lines, and most all traffic lights out. Walmart was INSANE!

Melissa, I don't think you should bail her out, not with the Christmas money and not now. She has shown no signs of being ready to go straight, so you'll blow that money and she'll take off with loser again. It's not worth it. Incredibly heartbreaking to imagine your girl in jail for Christmas I know, but this could be the wake up call she needs. Maybe if for once no one bails her out, no one lets her off the hook, she will realize that this way of life is getting her nowhere and pushing others away. You are very right to not be her enabler anymore, so stand strong and leave her in there. Sometimes the hardest things to do to someone you love turns out to be the best thing for them. Stay open to her if she wants to go straight, but don't let her fool you just to get out of jail then take off again. Those kids deserve their Christmas money, look at all they've been through this year, esp. Logan. I say leave her in there and let her learn a lesson.

Cadwell, I grew up in Ohio and we had White Castles everywhere, everyone calls them "sliders" because they slide right through ya :lol: I never liked them, but my BIL has to have them at least once a week.


12-16-2005, 03:26 PM
Sliders ROFL!!!! Sorry to hear about your outage-what do you do for heat when that happens? I have gas for mine so although we would be in the dark, the heat would work. It has been very cold and icy here too but the sun is shining! Josh is very excited because it is a short day and he knows we get to go shopping just the two of us. He doesn't get many of those anymore with all the kids now. I totally agree about leaving her there at least the logical side of me does. The mommy side wants to rush and make it all better. It is so much harder to have adult children-you wind up standing and watching most of the time. At least Loserboyfriend is in jail too this time and not just Katy. I am also wondering how this will affect her ever getting Logan back. Michelle is out of the office today so chances are I will have to wait until Monday before I hear anything. I can't wait to see how the kids react to Santa. I think Dess will be very excited and Amanda will want to watch from afar which is fine. Not going to force anyone on Santa's lap. Josh says he wants to just stand him and talk which is also fine. He gets funny sometimes about who he will let near him which is why I was so excited when he hugged his teacher the first time we met her. Autism makes life interesting to say the least.
Glad you have electricity again!

12-16-2005, 05:29 PM
:( We didn't have any heat at all. Ours is electric so it was gone, but we did have water, which is more than some people had. It was a cold, boring night, with nothing to do but watch out the window and sleep under 6 blankets with 3 sets of clothing on. We went shopping today mainly for warmth :lol:

I have a question about autism, Melissa. I know you're not a doctor, but there is a little boy I'm close to that I think might have autism, well everyone thinks that, but his mother refuses to even take him to be checked out for it, she just snaps and says he's normal...but really he's not. One thing is he never sits still, it's like he cannot stop moving his body he's always jumping around and telling stories, jokes, off the wall things, but he is VERY smart, he's so smart it's scary actually. He remembers everything and small details that most people don't even think about. For example, yesterday he told me a joke, and he was jumping around the room firing off one after the other (we call the person he latches onto "the chosen" because he never shuts up once he gets someone paying attention), and after one joke he said "I learned that twelve o'five in kindergarten." I said "You learned that december fifth?" and he said "No, I learned it at 12:05PM when I was in kindergarten."

He remembers things like the 12:05 all the time, and it throws us all for loops figuring out how he knows. His mom tells me that when he was just two, he would run around the house repeating commercials from the TV word for word, and he just remembers everything like that. anyway, I adore this little boy, but think he could be happier if his mother would find out if he has autism or something else, because he's definitely got something going on. He's incredibly smart, but he's going through a rough time at school because he cannot sit still and focus, he goes jumping around the classroom and gets sent to the principals office all the time. I feel sad for him because he is so smart and such a great boy.

I know I can't do anything, but just wonder if this sounds to you like autism.


12-16-2005, 06:34 PM
It sounds more like ADHD but she should still have him checked out. It could very well be a form of autism too but it sounds more like ADHD to me. She won't have a choice in the matter soon because the school will step in and have something to say about it. With autism too there is almost always speech problems depending on the severity of it. Joshua still sounds like a toddler most of the time when he speaks. He has been in therapy since he was 3. He was 5 and I still had to translate to people because they couldn't understand him. He could just be a hyperactive little boy too-one of my brothers was like that. Just the way I am, I was pushing drs by the time he was 2 because I knew there was something not right and he is now 9 and I finally got a dr to say autism. He wouldn't pin it down but I told the University of Washington when he was 4 that it was autism. Sometimes I feel like I live with Rainman but routine and therapy have helped although he is still very high maintenance.

Oh I got matching sweaters for the boys! They are so adorable. So the girls have matching dresses and the boys have matching sweaters. I couldn't believe I found the same sweater in 18mo and Josh's size too. I got Josh a toy cell phone and he hasn't stopped making calls since I got it LOL. Josh did an awesome job getting his haircut too and I let him tip the gal who cut his hair-she was really good with him. I am just tickled pink and can't wait to see the pics when they are done. Maryann said she would be here by 9a to help me assemble all the kids lol.

It dawned on me too that the darn furnace I am sure kicks on with electricity so I would have to use my fireplace for some heat if I lost power here. I am glad that it came on soon. It would be awful if it was days.

12-16-2005, 06:54 PM
Okay, thanks for telling me what you think. I am hoping the school does step in because isn't doing well at all, and it's not because he's not trying. But, I'm not his mama so I can't do anything.

A few years back we had an even bigger ice storm and the power was out for almost 2 weeks. It was miserable, allie was just an infant and I was heating bottles on top of a karosene heater, thinking it would burn us all down. lots of people died because all the stations ran out of karosene and people were taking grills inside and lighting them and putting gasoline in the heaters, and the fumes killed them. It's insane what some people would do to stay warm! I couldn't even see outside that time, every single window was layered thick with ice and I had to nearly bust down the front door to get it open! I'm thankful this wasn't that bad.


12-16-2005, 08:56 PM
The school will-they step in alot more than they used to for hyper kids and plus they watch alot more for any type of learning disability. Back when i was a kid, they never did any of that and my poor brother who is dyslexic had a heck of a time in school. He was in jr high and still couldn't read until he had a teacher who noticed the problem and he got a tutor to help him catch up. Back then there really wasn't a such thing as a learning disability and it was largely ignored.

I can't imagine going that long without power, especially with a small baby. When Katy was small there was a couple times it went out for the night but we had so much fun. We played games together and cuddled to stay warm but they were very temporary and she was like 6 or 7 and that makes a difference too.

Tomorrow is the big day and I am sooooo excited.

12-17-2005, 06:01 PM
Melissa I hope you are having a great day with the pictures and all! Sounds like they are all going to be decked out and cute and handsome for their pictures. Hope it's lots of fun. I am so sorry to hear Kate is back in jail. I do hope she gets her life straightened out, but I agree that it's a choice that only she can make and you wouldn't be helping her out by bailing her out. I hope that it will wake her up and make her realize that she wants to make some changes in her life.

Theresa I'm glad your power didn't stay off too long. That would be miserable. I am so cold all the time anyway I don't know how I would deal with that. We have been fortunate so far but that is something that I worry about because we don't have a generator anymore and being out here in the country sometimes they don't get the power turned back on too quickly if it's a big area that's out. You got me thinking that we really need to look into getting one because it will be impossible to find one once it actually happens because everybody will be wanting one.

Cadwell congrats on the job and I hope you love it! Also congrats on another pound lost! You are doing great to be able to lose during this time of the year.

Laura hope you have a great trip! I agree it will be nice when January is here and the parties are all over with for the year. I absolutely love the Christmas season but food is such a big part of my family get-togethers.

I am gearing up for Christmas at my Grandma's in a few hours. I started my day with my Tae Bo cardio DVD followed by a half hour on the Nordic Track followed by 15 minutes on the stationary bike. Then I helped my mom frost and decorate sugar cut-out cookies (and I didn't even take a taste). I wrapped a few presents...VERY few since it took me an HOUR and I wasted almost a whole roll of paper. I am the absolute WORST gift wrapper ever. I just can't get the hang of it. I always have too much paper or too little paper or I rip the corners when I'm wrapping or SOMETHING always goes wrong and I usually end up ripping it back off and throwing it in the garbage and starting over. I want it to look perfect and it always looks awful. I'm making sure that I don't get too hungry today so hopefully that will help me keep a leash on my eating tonight. I just had some yogurt and some baby carrots and I think I'll have a big salad and/or some fruit right before we leave. I'm going to wear my favorite jeans and sweater tonight to remind myself how far I've come and how much I enjoy being able to wear what I want and feel comfortable and confident. Also I want to go to my little niece's Christmas program tomorrow morning so I definitely do not want to make myself sick. So...I think I'm doing all I can and now I just have to be strong and not binge tonight. I can do it. I WILL do it. Sorry for my long ramble about nothing really important. This stuff is pretty inconsequential when there are people here with real reasons to be stressed. I am nervous about tonight but I do feel strong so it'll be ok.

12-17-2005, 06:36 PM
You will do great Kayelle! You have come so far and done so well.

Well where to begin. Odessa did not want to wear her dress and she undressed herself 3 times before we left. They all looked great. We got there and of course amanda and odessa both wanted to escape and they actually tried many times. It was hard to get all the kids to cooperate at the same time so the pics aren't perfect but geez neither are my kids and then I as quickly as I could picked the picture I wanted while Maryann ran herd on the others and Logan was drinking his bottle cause he had had enough. Toward the end he refused to sit anymore and kept sliding down to a laying position. We then trekked over to the food court and McDonalds was gone! Josh took it well and we went to A&W instead. That went pretty good and of course Josh was the first one done and he was so excited about the whole deal and then of course he had to vomit right there in the middle of the walkway of the food court and we aren't talking a small affair either. I was mortified and he got done and then said "oh i feel better do we get ice cream???" Ugh! Well we made it over to where santa was and they wanted 19.00 for a 5x7 pic and there was a line. Maryann and I looked at each other and I said I didn't know about her but I was pretty done and it was also getting close to Amanda's nap time. Logan fell asleep in the car and he is still sleeping. They got to see him but not go up and the only one upset about it was Josh but I know if he got up there, he wouldn't have sat on his lap anyway. So while it was nice to get out and the pics are gonna be ok, I just don't want to do that again for awhile. I am tired!
Anyone who would like me to send a pic to, just PM me. I figured out how to send them from the sears site hehe

12-17-2005, 11:06 PM
The kids are adorable, Melissa!!! I bet it was a handful though, and the throwing up he okay? Was it just nerves or is he really sick? Or something else? I bet you are worn out, but at least you got some gorgeous pictures out of it. I would have passed on Santa for that price as well....sheesh!

We have a new addition to the family: Shasta, an adorable 3.5 month old black lab. Allie broke my heart talking my mom on the phone, saying if Santa just brings her one thing, she wants a "doggie with a string, so he won't run away like my other doggie. I miss my doggie." I did not even realize the dogs running away had such an effect on her, actually I thought she just forgot about it, how wrong I was. So, i spent the afternoon looking through the "dogs for free" section of the Iwanna and we drove an hour to meet someone about this lab. My sister has a black lab who is an awesome house dog (lots of training, of course) so it is what we wanted. We just fell in love with her, she is absolutely beautiful.

We don't have good luck with dogs, there is always something that goes wrong with them. I get attached, then they wind up having parvo (a dog we paid good $$ for, who threw up all the way to our home and next day found out she wasn't a chihuaua as they said, just a very sickly and BIG bull mastiff), or they run away, get hit by a car, etc. I just have a good feeling about Shasta though, she is a very good dog and I just love her to pieces all ready. Allie is just tickled and can't wait for her to sleep in bed with her....though right now it's the cage in my bedroom so I can get her potty trained.

I don't even want to talk about eating today :^: I will just say it's not good at all.


12-17-2005, 11:24 PM
Yes Josh is fine-it was just a combination of eating way too fast and all the excitement. He has been totally fine since the incident and although it was a 3 ring circus trying to get the pics, I am glad we did it. I got Maryann a 5x7 of the babies on a sled for her help. I figured it was the least I could do. I will give the other one to Katy when I find out what is going to happen with her. She has been trying to call Maryann collect from jail-I am sure it is to ask for bail money and I told Maryann NO NO NO (maryann is a very big hearted soft touch). Katy has got to learn from her mistakes no ifs ands or buts.

How neat for the puppy! When Josh was small I had a Rottie named Tatanka and he was the best dog I ever had. It was one of the things I lost when I left my ex but I had no idea where we were going to go or stay and it is alot to ask someone to let your 160lb dog to come along too. I did give him to a great home that I knew he would get spoiled alot. I really hope it works out for you guys this time. I can't get a dog until SIL and I buy our duplex or house with finished basement and plus I want the kids a little bigger too. Odessa really isn't crazy at all about dogs and never has been but Amanda loves them to pieces.

I won't talk about food today either-we will just say you aren't alone.

12-18-2005, 01:06 AM
I've been away for 2 days and I haven't had a chance to read everything, but I just wanted to say to Melissa, that kate's new situation is heartbreaking but strangely good. Good because it ends your worries about Kate trying to get Logan back. It will never happen now. And good because maybe, justmaybe , Kate will hit the bottom now and want to accept help. She can't possibly like jail and maybe this will be the wakeup call. I know it's hard, but don't help her now. I've made that mistake and it just prolongs the misery. Kate has to find her own way out and then you will be there for her.
Be strong, OurSuperWoman!!!!!!!!

12-18-2005, 03:22 PM
Melissa those are some GREAT pictures. What sweet, sweet kids. They are really adorable. Soooo cute. You would never guess what a crazy day you had by looking at the pictures.

Ohhh a puppy! I bet your little ones are on cloud nine today, Theresa! Puppies are so much fun (and so much work, but very worth it)! We have a little Pomeranian, 2 Dalmatians and a Great Pyrenees that lives in the pasture and is a livestock guardian (her job is keeping the coyotes away and she does an amazing job). My older sister had a black lab for years and years and he was an awesome family dog. He grew up with her kids and went to work with her husband every day. He finally had to be put down last summer due to old age, he couldn't even walk anymore, but it was so hard for them to do. I hope you have many, many happy years with your new puppy!

Eating was NOT good for me last night, and today I am struggling to get back with the program (my grandma gave us a 3 pound box of chocolates...just what I need to have around today but I have been able to resist so far). There was just so much good food there last night and I ate way too much of it. I was so full I couldn't even sleep last night. I finally just got out of bed at 5:30 and did worked out until I felt better, and then got ready and went to the Christmas program that my 2 year old niece was in. It was so cute, I'm glad we went.

I have also been asked to make a dessert for Christmas Day so I get to spend today looking at recipes for something that's easy and everybody will like. Must be strong....must be strong...must be strong. Tomorrow we are going shopping in Minnesota for the day so it will be another hard day. I just need to suck it up and get with it and get through the rest of the month.

12-18-2005, 05:31 PM
Melissa-the children are just beautiful. I love the way you dressed the girls. Josh looks so sweet. I love his haircut. Logan is a little pumpkin pie, just like my year old grandson, David, who is delicious.
Thanks for sharing the photos.
Liike Kayelle, I ate way too much good food at a party last night. I resisted all the cakes and pies, but then ate way too many tiny little chocolate cups filled with all sorts of creamy and nutty filling. Each one just a tiny thing, but oh so many. Today is better except for a cookie for breakfast, but hopefully I will be ok calorie wise by the end of the day. Another party invite arrived yesteday. This season is just too hard.
Cadwell-I glad you got a job, even if it's not your dream job. Maybe you will wind up managing a bunch of Starbucks.
Theresa- A puppy is alot of work, but such fun too. I am resisting getting one as our shepherd is an old guy at 10 1/2.

12-18-2005, 06:37 PM
Any opportunity to show off my lovelies! Maryann bought the girls the dresses and then I got the boys the sweaters. You would never know there were two grandma's just about on the verge of heart failure in the background. Considering the amount and ages of the kids, I think the picture turned out pretty well.
I am just at the point where I am not even trying at this point. I seem to be holding present weight though which is good. I can't imagine how it would be if I had parties to attend on top of it. We all just need to hang on my our eyelashes a bit longer and then life will get back to normal and those tickers will go down again.

I found out that apparently Kate's BF had credit cards that werent his and that is why she is arrested. She says that she didn't know but I am not sure I buy it. Mom and I are sending her a Bible and a book by Joyce Meyer to read while she is in jail. She at least was crying and said she couldn't keep doing this which is a first. She could be looking at two years in Purdy if she is found guilty. I don't know what I will do if my baby goes to prison. Even through all the junk she has pulled on me, it just kills me to think of her there but I know I have to trust God with the situation and if she does go, it is the best thing for her-although that idea boggles the mind.

12-18-2005, 07:52 PM
Maybe she will be able to say the cards were BF's and they will make a deal with her that will include rehab. He can go to jail and she can get voluntary rehab. That would get rid of BF. It's good that she is crying. I doubt if a judge would want to throw her in jail if they could get scummy BF.
I have a good friend who needs to get arrested because that is the only way he will stop his use of MJ. Everyone begs, cries offers help etc, and he says it's all ok. He's fine. The only thing that will stop him is to get arrested, as awful as that sounds. Maybe this will be the end for Kate and life will get better for her.

12-18-2005, 08:00 PM
I don't know that actually going to prison would be the "best" thing for her, but maybe the scare of that would work. Her thing is the drugs, and while in there she is not on them, probably in withdraw, and she's going to think more clearly about what she's doing while she's not drugged up. If it takes her some time to just sit there, stone sober, and think about it, she might be able to turn it around. You should be talking to her about going into rehab to get off the drugs...and that would also look good in court if she is seriously prepared to do that. I think the root of the problem is the drugs and she needs to get off them and ditch the loser...but rehab of some sort would be the first step for her. Sending her the books is a great idea as well. I am glad she sounds like she is at least starting to think about things and realize she can't keep this up. She may have just needed the scare of serious punishment...and hopefully it will just be a scare. Best scenario, they order her into rehab and send loser boyfriend off to prison since he is the one who actually had the cards. Sending him off would be the best thing for Kate.

Kayelle and Laura, hang in there, parties are so difficult. THe little chocolate cups with filling sound amazing, I would have dipped into that as well. Hang in there, you can recover!

I on the other hand, have no excuse for what I have been eating, just that I have been so busy this weekend there has been no time to cook a good meal. We got home at 10PM last night and the kids were tired and cranky, and we ended up with pizza from down the street. Today, I had Taco Bell for lunch, grilled cheese and quesadillas for supper :o I feel miserable, so tomorrow is OP or die day.


12-18-2005, 08:08 PM
I going back on OP first thing tomorrow morning. I don't have to worry about parties or company or eating out till the weekend and it will feel good to be OP at least all week. I don't think I ate enough to gain, but I don't feel so good right now. I feel like old times and I don't like that anymore. I feel so much better when I am OP and I want that feeling back.

12-18-2005, 09:55 PM
My i have been gone a few days
ok let me digress about a few things on here-
Candace yay! on the job!
The cantata was called the heart of Christmas and I can't carry a tune in a bucket- i am what they call a drama geek- this year tho we used the middle & high schoolers for all parts and we used the childrens choir for angels- so i was one of the assistants to the director. We are now in the planning stages of an Easter production

I am sorry that kate is in jail- especially if she is there over Christmas. But again sometimes we need to hit rock bottom before we can get our lives back on track. I'd hate to see one of my kids go to jail BUT it could save her life - especially if she can get counseling.

Theresa- ooo a puppy. they are so cute when they are puppies - i am a cat person tho. I like SMALL dogs that are sweet- have a huge fear of big dogs- i was attacked by a german shepherd at the age of 6 and I am still afraid of big dogs. I have scars on the back of my thighs and butt from the bites.

I had an accident yesterday- I took a bad fall on the sidewalk and scraped up my right leg & elbow- and tore up my palms pretty bad and did a good number on my left knee, it split the skin all over the knee cap in various areas, tore up my left shin, scraped my left hand up and i am SORE - the wooden sidewalk was wet and i guess it was slimy from being all wet for 3 days and i took one step and down i went. It has been so muggy and wet around here. I will be ok - even with butterfly bandages on the knee- ( i was not going to pay 100.00 copay for 4 stiches) i guess i was more embarrassed then anything at first.
I had a party on Friday and was ehh on eating there- Saturday was good- today don't want to discuss it. and yeah i feel Eww tonight. I also feel much better when i eat better. and i am back on it tomorrow - exercise is out right now so i will have to be careful.
Jocie and I are going to go see Narnia tomorrow afternoon. She was given the whole set by one of her teachers this Christmas. The teacher said she wasn't supposed to give gifts BUT she knew jocie could read them and understand them so.
I still have shopping to do! Arrgh-
Have a great night all!

12-19-2005, 09:26 AM
OUCH! Sandi, that sounds like it hurt bad...and a strike to the ego as well, but we all need that from time to time. Keeps us grounded whether we like it or not. I watched hubby fall as well yesterday, on the ramp coming down from the storage building out back, but he was okay. THe kids later used that ramp for a winter slide of sorts :lol: until mean old mama made them stop anyway. I was worried they'd get splinters in sensitive spots.

New day, new week, and I am going back OP. I just feel sick from eating the wrong stuff and I can take this week before Christmas to get back to feeling good.

Todays goals: under 1500 calories, lots of water, 3 exercise sessions.


12-19-2005, 09:39 AM
Sandi-Sounds like a bad fall. I hope you feel better quickly.
Theresa- I'm with you. OP all week. I feel better just thinking about it.

12-19-2005, 01:49 PM
ouch ouch ouch! I do agree that the embarrassment outweighs the injury. I fell myself couple months back and felt like an idiot and I can't even say it was due to anything slick. I was just not looking where I was going and tripped on a curb-no way I was gonna go in and explain that one but it was just scrapes too-yours was worse and hope the healing process is fast for you.

Today we tackle the grocery store and it will be the last time I have to go do anything related for Christmas. I can concentrate on getting the house company ready and hope it stays fairly decent. I found out the other truckers are a married couple who drive together so I hope they can handle all the kids lol. I also found out Dennis will be picking him up Christmas day and will keep him until I get back from Bellevue and he gave me 100.00 even though I told him he wouldn't get credit through support enforcement for it. I guess my daughter even called him to get bailed out and also my mother's brother who she hasn't seen for years. My parents told her last night to stop calling and to grow up and take her lumps. They will let her call them once a week since it is collect which I am so happy my parents are dealing mostly with her. I just don't know how well I would handle things and she doesn't need me to be emotional too. Ok finishing up kids and will check in later after I recover from shopping.

12-19-2005, 02:18 PM
I am ok just a bit sore- got lots of Sympathy from family and bosses so i can handle the owies for now!

My diet has flown out the window- my days are crazed right now
my house is a wreck- i have too much to do and all i really want to do is crawl into bed and snuggle in with a good book and 50 lbs of chocolate.

I got 4 gifties today -2 boxes of candy and 2 boxes of cookies
VERY BAD GIFTIES :lol: they are all going straight to the youth Department
Those calories I do not need! 1 piece of the candy had like 100 calories and 13 grams of fat or something like that :yikes:
Narnia got put off till tuesday - we are making a trip to Santa's house today and i have to go to walmart :eek: this afternoon to take my eldest so she can shop
Then Tuesday it's grocery store and Narnia,
Wednesday night it's walmart and target for last minutes gifts :present:
Thursday night is clean house for company Friday:xcheer:
and work too every day but at least i get Sat, Sun & Monday off :carrot:and i can relax on Christmas- Saturday i have to be here cause of the candlelight services thats only an hour - but we always have a small family thingy and EAT afterwards. I am not going to beat myself up over eating. I am trying to make wise choices and not go NUTS over the holidays. so far i haven't binged or eaten 50 lbs of chocolate so so far so good.

12-19-2005, 02:37 PM
:snowball1 go on Sandi, open your gifties and have some chocolate, a little man has his arm all fired up and aiming for your mouth. Snowball will wash it down real nice, don't ya think?

Maybe I should turn his arm toward my head, I am already almost to my max. calories for the day...thank goodness for fitday or I wouldn't have realized it, doesn't seem I ate that much, but what I did eat really counted big time. That's okay, fresh veggies and water until, big salad with no dressing for supper, and I'll be fine. I don't even feel like eating anymore, think that drive is gone I feel so miserable.

Melissa, so glad to hear he gave you some $$. Even if it doesn't count, take all he'll give you, those kids deserve to be cared for and you need the help. Hopefully he will really show up Christmas for Josh. I am really glad too that no one is bailing Kate out, you are so strong for standing firm with her. Let her suffer this one out and hopefully she will learn something from it and start to change. Maybe once sober for awhile she will miss her children. I think if that maternal drive kicks in she might really find some true motivation to change for the better and see them again. That might be wishing too much, but I think it could happen. She has to want to change for herself first though.


12-19-2005, 04:04 PM
sandi, sorry about your fall. that sounds like it hurt.
wow, can't anyone give a gift that isn't candy or cookies? geez, those sound pretty hard to resist.
well, i am leaving to go visit my family in texas in few hours. i am so far behind on december goal, mostly because the past few days have been bad calorie-wise. last night we had a christmas party with folks from church. i didn't think it would too bad at first -- mostly rice, veggies, and a couple of small "bad" things, nothing too outrageous. but then i saw the red bean pastries. i had three of those. i don't know what the damage on those were and i don't want to know. well there is no way to find out anyway since i don't even know what they are called. but they are so good. everything was. well today will be better!

12-19-2005, 04:18 PM
Have fun in Texas! SIL was just outside Amarillo yesterday heading back home for Christmas. All 4 kids were wonderful at the store today-I mean stupendous! It is so quiet here at the moment since they are all eating LOL. I finally got to cross something off my list of things that have to be done by Friday! We got the cake mix for Jesus' birthday cake and Odessa is excited about birthday although I really don't think she understands it all yet. I am just happy I don't have one store to go to now-I am done done done. Everything now is all internal and boy is there alot to do. Yesterday both girls were busy making out of the ordinary messes, my phone never stopped ringing and Logan was wanting lots of Nanna time. I made it through though and even if I only get one more thing done today, I feel better. We are now on the big countdown and life can go back to normal whatever that is lol-I am starting to wonder these days.

12-19-2005, 09:09 PM
Hi all, catching up on all the activity here takes awhile!!
Melissa-I wanna see the pictures too! Sounds like you did great dealing with them all for pictures. It was hard doing mine and they are older. I wish I were as done as you with all this Christmas stuff! I still have to go to Reno Wed. with the 2 little ones to pick up oldest from airport. Then she wants to go shopping! Shopping in Reno 3 days before Christmas :fr: :no: :crazy:
Theresa-We have a 120 lb. black lab, the biggest baby you'll ever see! We love him to death!
Sandi-Hope your owies are feeling better today! Take it easy! Have fun watching Narnia! Can't wait until it makes it here to my little town! We all want to see it, but our only choices this week are King Kong and Yours, Mine and Ours. So we gotta wait.
I am with everyone here on losing control over :tree: party food:( The spinach dip and bread were my downfall and I ate so much that last I felt sick all night. I didn't even get on the scale this morning. I don't think I did too well Saturday either, with hubby home I eat more than usual. I really have to watch out next week, hubby has 9 days off! :eek: And in the middle of that we will be in Reno for 2 days. My mom is flying in on the morning of the 27th and my daughter leaves the next morning. Somebody has got to keep me away from the Olive Garden! HELP!
Well, the troops think they are starving, so I better figure out something for dinner!
Have a great night everyone!!
:ginger: :snowglo:

12-19-2005, 10:06 PM
I sent you the picture Kathy and it really looks like we are all in the same boat. As much as I adore Christmas, I will be glad when it is all over with and I can really concentrate and be on track. I am supposed to go in for a physical in February and I really wanted to be in the 180's when I went. I don't like seeing myself naked, I just can't bring myself to subject someone else to it no matter how much they are paid. I am hoping SIL gets in early enough and comes over so I can sneak and go see Narnia myself, otherwise I will have to wait for it to come out on rental. I will start beggin him now lol.

12-19-2005, 10:41 PM
I guess I was almost OP today. Do a chocolate kiss and 1/2 a cookie have to count?
I made my first batch of baklava tonight and I didn't eat any. I need to do it again tomorrow so I have enough for 3 of my kids.
2 of my sons are having troubles. My oldest, who lost his baby last month, is very unhappy. His inlaws came to stay with them the week before they lost the baby. They are building a new house and it was not ready on time so they came to my son's 2 bedroom condo. So 6 people are there and my son and DIL have had no privacy. His MIL is sleeping in his bed with DIL and he and FIL are on the couch. My son and DIL are way too polite and have not told them to go to a motel, but he is so upset. I am amazed at the nerve of these people at a time like this. I have stayed far away because I am afraid of what I would say to this woman if I went there.
I am venting here.

12-19-2005, 10:59 PM
I toss a chocolate cookie in mouth as i RUN , Duck and HIDE from Theresa and her famous :snowball1
NO -seriously- I DIDN'T eat any of it.Oh i wanted too tho - So I packed up all my gifties and took to the youth Dept. down the hall - we took everything out of the packages and put them in plastic containers so the givers wouldn't find out i gave them away ( we are sneaky)The teens can indulge Wednesday night
I also got a cheesecake :love: but that i took home and put in the freezer to take to inlaws for Christmas. and I also got 3 "hickory farm" type boxes. 1 hubby can munch on and the other two I am re-gifting to his bosses! i see nothing wrong with re-gifting bad foods that I will eat until I explode :bomb:

Melissa, I'd love to see a pic of the kids too! I bet they are adorable! we had a happy Birthday Jesus party Sunday Night for teh childrens dept. Some of the little ones didn't get it but they had a blast and loved singing happy birthday and feeling the joy.
Kathy- Olive garden = :snowball1 shopping does = exercise tho :D
Candace have a great time in texas! I hope you have a blast!
Laura- i agree eating better does make one feel better.
we are postponing Narnia till Monday as the rec. department is taking busses of kids there to the movies tues & weds during the school break. this way hubby can go too.
As long as i keep trying to make wise choices i am not going to stress over food and eating.
So tomorrow is grocery shopping :eek:
got to get thru just a few more days and the knee will be ok and i can ride the bike/exercise again. it's pretty ugly looking but i will survive!
My oldest daughter told me she's getting me all the biggest loser stuff for Christmas the DVD and the other book so we'll see if they are helpful or not. I don't really care if they are helpful i just like :present:
Well i was hoping to make 150's by my birthday on jan. 5- but i don't think it's gonna happen - haven't gained so thats good.
See ya'll tomorrow
Sandi:snow4: ( I can imagine we have snow anyway- not that i've ever really been in snow:chin: )

12-20-2005, 02:16 AM
Check email sandi girl as I sent to ya and no there is nothing wrong with regifting-especially when it just doesn't fit your lifestyle and you know someone who would really enjoy it.

Well Kate may be pregnant again. Can you see me running and screaming and pulling my hair out????? Time will tell and if she is, I will have to move again. I am hoping it is just a sympathy ploy as she has done that before in the past. That would mean the only year she missed was 2004. It scares me too because she just isn't giving her body a chance even to recover from pregnancies. So everyone pray like crazy she isn't. I will love and take care of the baby if she is but the selfish part of me just doesn't want to take care of anymore babies. I am going to be 59 as it is by the time I get Logan graduated. Poor little people are gonna have to push Nanna in the wheelchair.

12-20-2005, 02:35 AM
Oh Melissa! :hug: I hope Kate is just trying to get to you and isn't really pregnant! But don't let her get to you!!! Stay strong! Our prayers are with you :grouphug: and with her. Those little one's need their mom and hopefully she will get the help she needs and one day be able to care for them.
Just breathe and let God take care of it.
Don't worry about anything, pray about everything!!

Those kids are ADORABLE!! Love that curly hair on Amanda!!! I'll have to find a pic of my oldest, Grace, she has that wild, curly hair, too! Beautiful!


12-20-2005, 11:30 AM
Melissa- I hope Kate is just late, which wouldn't be surprising considering her circumstances. She really pushes you. She knows you will always pick up after her. I wonder if this is just a ploy to get you to bail her out. Stay strong.

12-20-2005, 11:33 AM
I appreciate all the prayers truly! I am hoping it is a ploy. I would have to move if she is-we are already at capacity in the house we are in now and holy cow can you imagine trying to grocery shop?? It boggles my mind so I am trying really hard not to think about it and just hope that it is a false alarm. I did find out though that she does want to get away from David and she is scared of him so we will do whatever we need to to help her get away from him. I knew that boy was no good from the minute I met him. This will be like his 9th felony so hopefully they will put him away for a long time and that will give kate opportunity to start over and get her life on track.

12-20-2005, 01:42 PM
I think David will be gone for a while. I really hope it's wake up time for Kate. She has been thru so much and so have you. Luckily, the kids have you.

12-20-2005, 04:09 PM
I hope they put David away for a long time. It would be best for both Katy and society! Had a great therapy session with Josh's shrink and I came home with 4 bags of presents for the kids. They are going to have an awesome Christmas and I am excited to watch them. Doing the countdown for life to get normal again too. I am tired of being tired. House is starting to shape up though and SIL will be home I think tomorrow. I am going to try and get him to come up before the holiday so I can get a breather.

12-20-2005, 10:05 PM
Not so good today. Toooooo many little nibbles, and they surely do add up. I packed 27 perfect pieces of baklavah to send to son Dan and they were so perfect because it trimmed them with a sharp knife and bet you know where all the edges went. Then I made cheese crackers as a gift for a friend and I had to eat 5 of them because they didn't fit in the box, plus a large cookie, because it was there.
I can't wait till Jan 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-20-2005, 10:27 PM
Oh Melissa- :hug: First I do hope they put David away for along time. I don't understand how judges just keep letting guys like him out - if theres no punishment for doing wrong he'll keep doing wrong. I hope Kates not Pregnant- i hope it is a sympathy ploy - again I don't want to see anyone go to jail but maybe it would either scare her enough to get straight or she can get counseling or learn a "job" so when she gets out she can get on a better path. You may want to check and see if there's a prison ministry or a chaplain who can talk to her - even most county jails have them available.
The kids are beautiful! Love the smiles on them! What a bunch of cuties- i would be so proud ! I am glad they are having a good Christamas too- with all they have been thru they deserve it!

Laura- I can't believe the inlaws- at this time especially when they need time alone together - I would have to be rude no matter who it upset.

I was given another 3 boxes of candy today and at lunch took them to hubbys work and told him DO NOT BRING THEM HOME so the guys at the factory got 3- 5 lb boxes of candy today. I guess it's the thought that counts.
I am getting organized slowly- cookies are baked - went to the store and got the ham today and got a little turkey for leftovers - i really :love:turkey and theres never any leftovers from the inlaws. so I am baking a 10 pound turkey on Saturday so i can have leftovers- turkey freezes nicely so i can do up packs for lunches. Now i have to hit target tomorrow night and super wally world and we'll be DONE :carrot: Just have to wrap Jocies stuff and hubby does that normally he is one of those who wrap PERFECTLY perfect. I believe in gift bags. - Zach is getting a fishing pole and tackle stuff & that's not easy to wrap. Hubby is off Friday morning and said he will get the house together as we are having company Friday. I think all of us are coming down with the sniffles- first it's 76 and then it's 56 - crazy Fla. temps. makes us all miserable.

Have a great night everyone!
P.S. Hiding from Theresa and :snowball1
iateahamburgeratmcdonaldstoday- No fries, no double cheeseburger, just 1 plain hamburger. and iateacookie -only 1 cookie but still :(
I am going to beat head against wall now

12-20-2005, 10:35 PM
I have been off sick...AGAIN :tantrum: it's just not fair! My throat is just killing me and I"m all clogged up. Allie go sent home from school today and will likely miss Santa and the Christmas party there tomorrow. They said she all a sudden went pale white, busted out crying and said she was going to throw up. I went right to get her, she slept about a half hour, then bounced up and was all over the house saying she's all better. Tonight she started coughing and her eyes watering, so she will prob. wake up with this throat thing in the morning. Hopefully she can get rid of it by Christmas.

Melissa, I sure hope she isn't would be that loser's child, right? Nothing good can come out of that. What I don't understand, is how he gets to NINE felonies and is still walking a free man???? Why do we let criminals go so easily. I'd say you should be put away long before you have that many felonies on your record. Say, 3 or 4 felonies and the judge should wake up and know this loser needs to be put away. This is what I don't understand, so many horrible crimes could be prevented if we were stricter on criminals. I sure hope this time he gets locked up and Kate gets to settle her life out...and is NOT pregnant. It would be very nice to hear that she is with you, going straight, working and getting things together. I would just jump with joy to hear that...for her and you, and definitely for those kids. One day they are going to question where she is, and hopefully she will get it together before that happens.

Laura, I bet those treats tasted good. I have been eating really bad, but the scale is not changing :?: however I'm getting that lucky is beyond me!


12-20-2005, 10:41 PM
:snowball1 :snowball1 This is fun, turn around, Sandi, I can't see your red, wet face :snowball1 Okay, guess you get to throw back now because I had a hamburger from McD. yesterday. I know, I'm a snowball hypocrit.


12-20-2005, 11:12 PM
Man the snowballs are flying around here! OOWW!!! :stars: I got caught in the middle of that :snow4: !! But I deserve it, I ate fries at BK tonight-NO BURGER though! Just too busy running around trying to get ready to go to Reno tomorrow.
Hubby informed me that he wants to go pick up his new truck BEFORE I leave in the morning, instead of Thursday. That just gives me a 1/2 hour of paperwork to do in the auto office :tantrum: Like I don't have enough to do tomorrow.
On top of it all, it is supposed to rain ALL day tomorrow:( Won't that be fun with McKenna(5) and Sam(almost 3) to shop with all afternoon, NOT! :no:

Theresa I hope you all feel better soon! Maybe you'll get next year off from being sick since you had it so much this year? I know, wishful thinking, but it would be nice!

I hope everyone has a great OP day tomorrow!! Come on girls, we CAN get through the next week without gaining!! Just maintain! One bite to satisfy the urge won't hurt, but the whole bag/box will!!


12-20-2005, 11:41 PM
Good luck Fancy! Sounds like an awful lot to do in the rain with kids.

12-21-2005, 12:15 AM
I'm going to try again tomorrow to be OP ALL DAY. No snacks, no little bits, no edges, tastes, cookies, nuts, NOTHING. I want to be thin!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-22-2005, 02:09 AM
Wow it was a quiet day for our thread. How did you do today Laura? Tomorrow is haircut day and I can hardly wait. Logan is pulling my hair out by the buckets-he really has a thing for hair. Gearing up now for the weekend and I am finally on track and the house should be all done tomorrow and then just keep up with kid clutter. I want everyone to have a Merry Christmas!

12-22-2005, 09:07 AM
I'm here, still stuck with this horrible sickness, which according to WebMD is mroe likely a viral infection, which isn't treated with meds, so I'm not going to waste $$ on doctor fees. If Tyler is still sick come Monday I might take him in, but hopefully we can shake it this weekend. We might get everyone sick at Christmas :( I had this SAME thing over Thanksgiving and lost my voice completely on the big day...why is it happening every major holiday? Although, Christmas is with the inlaws and I would not mind losing my voice so I can ignore everyone and shrug them off all day ;)

I put Ty in bed with me this morning (4AM, of course) and he was watching cartoons, Shasta was in her pen, so I dozed back off to sleep, only to wake up to him coloring his legs with a red permanant marker. I forgot I had it there last night and was too tired to get up and put it away. Good thing he didn't eat it, they're not the non-toxic kid things. It was very hard to wash it off, and being permanant I wasn't sure it would, but thankfully his leg is no longer scarlett red.

That is just an example of the **** I have been in. Everyone is sick and I am miserable, and of course they all want momma so I have to suck it up and act warm and fuzzy. I tried taking something OTC last night and it left me very groggy and not all there in the head yesterday, so I am sucking it up and hoping it goes away soon.

MIL still will not tell me what I am supposed to bring for Christmas, and I'm going shopping today, and today only, and told hubby if she doesn't call my cell phone, have him do it, then I will bring whatever I want and she'll hush up and like it. Okay...can you see the sick, cranky me? I'm not always so sweet and nice :lol:


12-22-2005, 09:57 AM
Poor Theresa! I guess youare right. The only good news is that Ty didn't eat the marker. You have 3 days to get everyone better and it can happen, especially with the kids who recover quickly. Why don't you just get whatever for MIL and don't even bother calling.
Christmas is not our holiday, but we have lots of friends who include us in the festivities and we enjoy the Xmas spirit, so I do have to buy gifts for them.
I did a lot of ordering on line and half of it isn't here yet. I am very upset. I ordered in plenty of time, Dec 1, and 5 gifts aren't here yet and my emails to the company are not answered.
Food was just so so yeaterday. Not a lose, but not bad enough to gain. We now have 3 parties to attend. I can't wait till Jan 2.
Food was so so

12-22-2005, 09:58 AM
My scale must be playing tricks on me! The last 2 days I have weighed with layers of clothing, heavy socks, and food in the belly and it's been 243, I thought this was off since I was so sure I've gained and with all those clothes and the horrible food I've been eating ... well, weighed just now without clothing and empty tummy and it says 238!!!! That would mean I made my goal of losing 3 lbs. this month and I reached the 20 lb. gone mark. But how can that possibly be??

1. My total exercise for the past five days is 35 minutes.
2. I have gone over calories, or not counted at all, for the past week.
3. 90% of the foods I've been eating are anything but OP...let's talk about Velveeta mac and cheese, frozen pizzas, taco bell (twice) and McDs even.

So how did I drop 3 lbs.???? Tomorrow, official WI, it will probably jump up to 250 or something :lol:

Maybe it's because of the puppy? I have been running the back yard with her, so I guess that is exercise, and going out all the time to take her to potty and watch if she does it, etc. I guess I'm just more active maybe. Heck, I'd have gotten a pup a LONG Time ago if I knew they had these benefits. She is my best buddy now, I love her to pieces.


12-22-2005, 11:10 AM
Merry Christmas Everyone!

Theresa YAHOO! :carrot: At this point I woudln't care how the 3 pounds went away -just accept it! Glad to know the permanant Marker came off - that would have been crisis time for me!
Laura- I would be Fuming about the deliveries.
Yesterday was OP for me all the way unfortunatly it was becasue I ate so bad the other day and was sick Tuesday Night so i had to eat very carefully yesterday and today (My liver & gallbladder revolted!)
I need to be very careful this weekend or I will be very sick and i don't want to end up in the hospital over Christmas.
I hope everyone is feeling better Theresa- Jocie has a sniffly nose and a cough. and i am fighting it too- That airborne stuff seems to be helping.
I think my dinner on Friday my be canceled as our friends have to be careful about catching bugs and with us sniffly they may not wish to come- i'll find out today. More shoppping this afternoon for groceries. :eek:
I only work till noon today and tomorrow so thats all good.
Have a great day everyone!

12-22-2005, 11:29 AM
Theresa I am so sorry to hear you guys are sick and I agree with Laura, you have good taste and you shouldn't have to chase someone down to find out what you are supposed to bring, especially given it is so close. I wonder when we quit teaching and practicing good manners?? Or is it because it is family we don't feel we need to? I think we should moreso with family but that is my two cents worth. I also agree with Sandi-take the loss! take the loss! oh and do a happy dance too!

Today is haircut for me! Finish up the house and go apply for Logan's SS card. I finally went and got his birth certificate-17bux! but I needed one so I guess it doesn't matter what it costs. Food for me bites although last night I didn't eat anything after dinner for a change. I think I am getting very sick of being tired and feeling oogy so that is a good thing.

Everyone feel better!

12-22-2005, 11:57 AM
:dancer: Check out the new tickers! :dancer: I decided to take it, you guys are right! I measured my waist and it's down an inch, so I believe I have truly lost somehow. I just made history here, this is the first time I have EVER met a weight goal I set here....EVER!!! Yay me!

I am not chasing MIL down, which is the issue. She expects me to, but I have not made a single phone call to her in months and I have no intentions to now. She told hubby she doesn't care what I bring, or if I bring anything at all, in a real snappy tone so he called and told me not to make anything if she's going to be that way. She said Mawmaw is making everything...which ticks me off because Mawmaw can barely stand up these days, and doesn't need to be cooking Christmas meal for everyone. I called her and asked if I could make some of it and she gave me a few things to take off her hands. I can't go over there and help at her home, since we are all sick.

I wish I could BREATHE, that would be real nice about now :cry:


12-22-2005, 02:00 PM
It sounds like you did the right thing and handled it very well. Josh is stepping on my last nerve already and the day is still young! I have been once again cleaning his room. I have no idea how he gets so piggy so stinking fast but with company coming, I don't want his room to be icky and icky it is. I know he will want SIL to play games with him so if for no other reason it needs to be cleaned for his poor sake. I hate to leave my mother with the heathens but man I am looking forward to sitting in a chair and not having to deal with anyone.

12-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Theresa- Why don't you bring Mawmaw some gorgeous flowers since she is doing all the work. That will piss off MIL, but what will she be able to say. Put a big gift card on the flowers so there is no mistake about who they are for.
My son's MIL has reached a new high in selfishness. Her new house is ready, but she won't move in till every picture is hung and the computer is running and food in the fridge. So my son and his 2 little boys are still on the couch. FIL is in the boy's room and the selfish B**ch is in my son's bed with DIL. DIL is a mess since losing the baby and my son doesn't want to upset her by telling these people what to do. I think this woman could win a selfish and miserable award. I am staying away because I need to keep quiet, but I am really angry.
I have a splitting headache which I deserve because all I've eaten today is 4 small pieces of baklavah. That's a lot of honey and sugar. I feel really icky.
I need to limit the rest of the day to about 800 calories, I think to be ok.
Melissa- Any word from Katy. I hope all is as well as it could be considering her circumstances.

12-22-2005, 02:12 PM
Theresa - I'm sure the weight is really off. Be happy. It's the result of all the good days and exercise.
Sandy-Please stay healthy. The food isn't worth it.

12-22-2005, 02:26 PM
You have more will power than I do Laura cause I think I would be over there having a heart to heart with that woman. This is an especially hard time for DIL and she needs the loving comfort of her husband's arms, not her mothers. Mom can be comforting too but not like hubby with the shared loss and I can't imagine she is being much help since she is so busy looking inward and to her one needs. Your son could pull wife aside and tell her what he wants to do. Chances are she feels the same way and would like the alone time so she can begin to heal. I guess every family has to have their thorn and I think they change up from time to time. For us it is Katy and also my one SIL. Those two manage to keep things pretty stirred up. I haven't heard any other news as yet from her or for her which is mixed for me. I want to know but I dont' want to know if that makes any sense. I just hate the thought of her in jail for Christmas. Now I won't have to make Hawaiian bread with Brie since that is something that she and I have always had together on Christmas since no one else is crazy about it but I really miss her and have for years now and just hope that one day I will get my daughter back. She is the only one I have. On the upnote, Josh's room is done and now I need a vacation!

12-22-2005, 02:35 PM
Back from the grocery store and ugh do I feel miserable today. My throat isn't as raw and I'm coughing less, but the congestion in my head just makes me feel loopy and brain dead. The poor lady waiting for me to write a check in the line probably thought I was slow in some way :lol: I haven't written a check in a very long time, but the idiot who does payroll at hubby's work messed his check up again, so it was deposited late, so I could write a check but couldn't use my debit, just to be safe. I hate checks and hope it doesn't happen again.

Laura, I don't know how you are keeping quiet. Your son and his wife really need some time alone to grieve the loss of this baby and I don't understand how this woman doesn't see that. Maybe she thinks she is what her daughter needs, but it's not...she needs the only other person who understands it the same as her, the other parent, her husband. Yes, I'm sure grandparents are mourning too, but they do need to lean on each other most, it is different for them since it was their child, in her body, etc. I cannot imagine this woman doing this to them. I wonder if your DIL wants the mother there, or is just afraid to tell her to go? Anything you can do to make the move out quicker...go hang pictures for her or something? I know you wouldn't want to, but it might speed it up and get them out of there quicker. Just a thought.

I will get something for Mawmaw. I just hate the thought of another store, but there is always tomorrow. I feel so miserable.

Melissa, yay for the haircut! You are going to relax and walk out feeling like a new woman. No one deserves it more than you.


12-22-2005, 02:41 PM
Melissa, can you write to Kate in jail? I think you should write her a letter and tell her what you just told us...that you are thinking about not making that bread because it was your thing with her and how you miss her and want her back. You could go into detail on how her being out of your life has effected you, etc. and maybe it will get through to her. This is the time, since you know she is being forced to sober up at least for the moment. It just might make a difference to her. I'm sure she is going to miss some of the same things.

Sandi, I hope you and Jocie start to feel better and the airborne works wonders. I need to buy some of that stuff, but I never think about it. Must write it on list...only way I'll ever remember!!


12-22-2005, 02:58 PM
I think maybe I will write to her. I think she may think that I hate her because of all she has put me through and while her actions have not been smooth at all, it doesn't change the fact that I adore her and I always have. Part of the reason I take care of her children is because I love her. That is a good idea Theresa, I think I will do it when I get a moment of peace because I don't want to sound preachy or lecture like either. I just want her to know that I love her and I won't be making bread since it wouldn't be the same without her. I had a hard time at thanksgiving eating fruit salad. She always ate her weight in that. Weird how I think about food we used to share together-we did do other things too LOL.

12-22-2005, 03:25 PM
I think Theresa's idea is a good one, a sweet letter about bread and cheese and how sweet the kids are, no recriminations this week.
I think nasty MIL might be leaving my son's this weekend. I am worried that she used her time with DIL to say nasty things about my son and us. I know she thinks I'm weird because I didn't know all the "rules" for the wedding or shower, nor did I care much. I had 2 tables with my kids, family and 4 friends at the wedding and we were in a corner, behind the bar, where we couldn't see the bride and groom. MIL was at the table right next to them. There are no family photos of my side because she had the photographer running all over taking pictures of her and her side. There are more photos of her than of the bride. She is barely 5 feet and 90 lbs, with big boobs and she wore a strapless, gown with a train, more dressed up than the bride, who is a dear girl and looked plain and simple and beautiful. I don't think DIL realizes what a piece of work her mother is, and she will have to realize it without my help. My boy is fully aware and angry, but he doesn't want to upset his wife.
Hopefully, it's just a day or 2 more.
I am hoping my boy and his wife and 2 sons will come here next week for a Chanukkah meal and stay a night.

12-22-2005, 05:57 PM
Theresa-Hope you feel all better soon. Glad you got the marker of Ty, been there many times before!! All markers should be washable and nontoxic! Sorry about your MIL, just go there with the mindset of having a good time and don't let her ruin it! It's your Christmas!

Laura-Sorry about your sons MIL! Is there any way you could invite them for dinner and the night, but then watch the boys and let them have a night alone? They could probably use it!

Melissa-I can't stand cleaning my 10 yo daughters room, I feel for you! It sounds like a great idea to write to Kate and let her know how your are feeling. With her being sober right now maybe it will hit her. Big hugs to you:hug: ! I hope you have a peacefull time while you get your hair done, I get my turn tomorrow! I can't wait until I can look in the mirror and not see all this grey!

Shopping wasn't too bad yesterday. Grace's flight was an hour late, so that was fun in the airport with McKenna and Sam! It didn't start raining until we were in eating dinner, and it started pouring so hard they issued a flash flood warning for the area we had to drive through to come home. We almost stayed the night in Reno, but I really wanted to come home! My mom flies in Tuesday morning and Grace flies out Wed morning, so we are going to Reno Mon night and staying until Wed. That's enough motel room time with kids!
Did get lots of shopping done though! The only shopping left is for hubby to do. He was going to do it Sat but they were just told they have to work Sat instead of having it off:( He's the one who put it off, NOT my fault!

Well, gotta go wrap!


12-22-2005, 07:35 PM
My throat is much better and the nose was clearing up and I was feeling better, then all a sudden I started feeling like I was going to throw up. I realize, after feeling sick for a couple hours, that I have only eaten donuts all day. I didn't even realize that I never ate...I fed the kids, but not myself. This might be how the 3 lbs. disappeared :lol: I have never forgotten to eat before, this is a very new issue.

I am really dreading Christmas now. I called Mawmaw to tell her that Allie's Dear Santa letter is printed in the local paper today, and she started crying saying how she didn't get to buy gifts for anyone because no one would take her shopping, everyone is too busy for her, no one visits, etc. I thought MIL took her out every Wed., but Mawmaw says she just doesn't show up anymore. This woman is stuck in her house, on her last leg of health, and according to her everyone has just stopped visiting or even calling her. THis upset me, and I offered to take her out but she refused, said it's too late and she's just going to cook all the food for everyone as her gift to the family. I told her she doesn't have to do that! Just being here is enough from her, really no one expects from her, she is on such a tight little budget as it is. SHe wouldn't hear anything I said and I called hubby, and he snapped my head off saying he is not feeling well now and he is working and trying to get home for Christmas and just can't deal with anything else right now. According to him, she just doesn't have the $$ to buy and so decided to cook, that's what she told MIL at least. She will never tell MIL the truth, she never does. She cowers down to her and lets them walk all over her and it burns me up every time I hear of these things. I wanted so bad to go over and help her baking, but we will just make her sick and that would be horrible in her condition.

This is turning out to be a miserable holiday for me, BUT the kids salvage everything. THey are SO excited and I am just trying to focus on them and live it through their eyes. The best way to go this year. They are so great, I'm lucky to have them and that is my focus.


12-22-2005, 10:07 PM
Ok i am in a mood so here goes my 2 cents :soap:
Theresa- i would so be nice to Mawmaw- flowers or something sweet- it would so tick off your MIL -who even tho i don't know her- i don't like her LOL
and you can tell her the kids still think Santa brings stuff so don't worry about gifties! or tell her the kids will not care who gets them what - they just lved their toys.
I don't like The MIL in Lauras situation either. (See i am in a mood):devil:

All my shopping is DONE except for some rolls for Saturday and i can grab them tomorrow on my way home from work- the store is 1/4 mile from the job

OP today too as i can't handle real food yet.

Melissa- i agree with everyone about a letter to Kate. she needs a lot of love right now. maybe just a card from everyone too. Maybe check to see if they have a chaplain available because we make up bags for the Prision ministry so the inmates can make cards for their families. and the inmates get toothpaste etc..
Kathy I have Lots of presents that need wrapping- care to help out??;) My hubby drives me crazy with wrapping- Every piece of paper has to be measured and just perfect and taped the right way Etc.. makes me NUTS! the gifts look good but gee the kids tear them up so who cares?

I am in a mood cause i have too much to do and no time to do it and I don't feel good so that adds to my :stress:
adn i am annoyed at a family situation and feel very helpless about it all
My BIL's 1 son( my nephew thru marrige) is down here about 30 miles north of me and he & his mom are basically homeless right now. well this is BIL's ex wife and the ex & son are staying with her parents for right now -But she can't do drugs in their house so she won't stay there. BIL is leaving Sunday night from NC to get son for 2 weeks if the son can behave he can stay in NC. BIL's now wife will treat him like crud (as she does my BIL's other son) and i just feel bad cause it's like no one wants this 14 YO kid. yes, he is unruly but he has never had rules or been made to behave. it's not the kids fault his parents losers. My hubby said he would call DCF to get the kid into foster care if he can't stay in NC -but i mean he's in a house were no one wants him and it's Christmas. I know we are not supposed to hate but i am really close to that emotion right now. we can't get involved- Bil's Ex wife HATES my hubby and would lie about him to police if we tried to get the kid. :tantrum:
Sorry guys i had to vent - it really bothers me.

I have to help "stuff" 300 candles into cups tomorrow a.m. and then I am off work for 3 days YAY!
Have a good night everyone

JANUARY 2 WHERE ARE YOU???( i am with Laura on this one too !)

12-22-2005, 10:52 PM
Son's miserable MIL finally left today. My son is so happy about it. They are finally alone 4 weeks after losing their baby girl.
I am a MIL and I do try hard to listen to my 2 girls and not intefer, even when I think they are doing something silly. It's hard, but it's the right thing to do and the most important thing is for my sons to be happy. Sometimes they give me too much info about my sons and I want to run away.
Sandi- It's a shame that this boy's mother is useless. Maybe the grandparents will want him if the mother leaves. It's a hard lesson, but you can't save everyone.
Melissa- How is your hair?
Does anyone know how to add a digital photo to a post or a PM?
I saw on the forum that people are doing it.

12-23-2005, 09:59 AM
Hello everybody!

I am just trying to catch up quick here after missing a few days. It has been a crazy week. But at least I am back OP and feeling good. Just two more weekends to get through.

Sounds like everybody has been having a crazy week! Laura I am so glad that your son's MIL finally left and they can get some time alone. What a difficult time, and then to have somebody pushing in and not giving the space that they need to heal.

Sandi sorry about your BIL situation. It is so sad how many teenaged kids have those serious kinds of problems when they should just be worrying about things like grades and friends and just growing up. I hope things work out. With my job working with high risk kids I see this kind of thing every day and it just breaks my heart. They have so much potential if they just had the guidance at home that they need.

Theresa, how terrible about your mawmaw! I agree that flowers will make her feel really good, and Sandi is right about the gifts. Your MIL sounds like a real pain in the neck. What is wrong with some people? They just aren't nice and there is not reason for it. Maybe it's just because they are unhappy so they want everyone else to be unhappy, too.

Kathy sounds like you have been really busy, too! How did the hair turn out? Have fun in Reno!

Melissa I agree with everybody else that a letter is a great idea, and now is the ideal time. It might really hit home with her, especially now that (hopefully) she is realizing all of the consequences of how she has been living and how much she is missing out on. Good luck.

Yesterday my FIL actually went to my husband's work to talk to him! We haven't talked to either of them for months because MIL has been mad at us. We didn't even get invited to their house for Thanksgiving or Christmas this year. But yesterday he brought us some gift cards and had a nice talk with hubby. MIL still won't have anything to do with us, but it sounds like they are really having some problems and now my husband's sister said something to MIL that upset her and now MIL is furious at her, too, and she is not getting along with her own sisters and SIL's, either, and refuses to go to any Christmas parties because of it.'s not just us and now I almost feel bad for her. It sounds to me like she is just a miserable and unhappy person. (Just to husband is adopted so I actually have two separate families of in-laws because he was raised by his biological mother until he was 5 and then shuffled around all over between relatives until he was out of school. It wasn't until after we were married that one of his uncles & his wife wanted to legally adopt him and we agreed to it because they did have a hand in raising him and my dad had just died and I was heartbroken that my kids would grow up with no grandfathers. It is an odd situation that's for sure. It's the adoptive MIL that's being so nasty. His biological mother has had a rough life but she is so happy to have us in her life that she goes out of her way to make us welcome in the family and is extremely sweet to us all...we are going to her house for Christmas on Saturday night.)

I am officially off work until January 3rd, but I have so much to do these next couple of days that it doesn't really seem like a vacation yet. I really do enjoy my Christmas breaks every year, though. I think later today I am going to have my daughter snap some "after" pictures of me. I have not done that yet and I am thinking that maybe it will help me to get through these next two weeks to be able to look at them and compare them with my "before" pictures whenever I am feeling weak around the goodies. I want to be able to fit into the same clothes I've been wearing now when I go back to work! I know if I can get through December things will get easier for me again. Must stay focused.

12-23-2005, 12:09 PM
Haircut is wonderful! I feel so light again. My hairdresser called me Rapunzel when I came in but geez it was the first time I have been able to go since I got the girls in May of 2004 and now when Logan grabs a handful it doesn't hurt. Of course the kids all looked at me funny when I first got home. There is massive things to do today since tomorrow is the big day for us. Joshua said he wanted to spend the night with ex so we will see if he makes it this time. He usually changes his mind when it comes down to actually staying. I am going to write Kate today too when I have a quiet moment. I tried yesterday but I just feel at such a loss of what to say exactly.

Kayelle I am so sorry to hear that things are in a mess at your house too. I just don't get why people have to be so stinking nasty. Life is just way too short for that and that is how we wind up with regret in the end. By the time we realize how stupid we were acting, it is too late. I am happy to see FIL made an overture though-could be the beginning of renewal.

Theresa I know the thought of another store is enough to even crumble the strongest, but she sounds like she is just so worth it. I should go today to get milk but I'm not. There is just too many last minute things I have to do today. I haven't even wrapped the present I got each kid yet. It has been hard since I always have someone up and about just about but I will have to sneak a bit here. Josh knows I got them something but the stuff that was donated I hid in the garage so that will be Santa stuff.

I better get busy here. I have a birthday cake to make and lots of other stuff.

12-23-2005, 03:35 PM
Melissa glad you love the haircut! You definitely deserved something for yourself. You deserve a whole lot more than a haircut...but that's a start! I hope you have a good day and get everything done that you want. The birthday cake is such a great idea.

Well....I did it. Taught my daughter how to use the digital and had her snap a few pictures. Funny how before I lost the weight I'd look at pictures and all I could think was how fat I looked. Now I don't really see myself as fat in these new pictures but I find plenty of other things to criticize. I guess that is just the way we are made, self criticism is part of the deal. Probably would have helped if I had put some makeup on and done something with my hair before I had her take them, but she was in a hurry so we just did it. I have them uploaded on the website where I put my photos so if anybody wants to see let me know and I'll send the link. There are a few before and during photos there as well, and some of all my critters.

Speaking of critters...we have a new visitor for the Christmas break. My son's biology teacher has a pet snake for the classroom and needed somebody to take her home and take care of her over the break. My son really likes her and I guess I was the only mom crazy enough to agree to a snake in the house, so she's here with us for a couple of weeks. Actually...I kind of like her. Her name is Killer and she's a corn snake. She's long and skinny and has bright orange spots. Very pretty. We set her aquarium up in the exercise room so now I can watch her while I exercise and it does make the time go quick. My mother tells me I have lost my mind.

12-23-2005, 03:47 PM
You are a nicer mommy than I am-don't think I could hang with a snake even over a weekend lol. I am doing great task wise. Cake is done and frosted, dips are made as well as the meat and cheese tray. Now the joy of bathing everyone-I have to do them in shifts. They will all be grubby by the end of all the festivities but I at least want them to start out sweet. I was hoping to get SIL out here so I could sneak and see a movie but I guess they were all out "visiting" until like 4a so I am not holding my breath. It is almost tempting to farm all the kids and just go see a movie and have some down time but since Logan isn't really Jason's responsibility, I would feel guilty sending him too with the girls plus I am not sure how he would do since there are so many people he doesn't know. Well I am off to start the bath brigade!

12-23-2005, 06:42 PM
I finally bit the bullet and joined a gym today. DH is a member and they have a special for family so I joined. I have 3 one hour sessions with a trainer starting Jan 3 to work out a program. I am interested in cardio and free weights, not weight machines. I think weight are better for me because form is important, and I like that. There are also classes but it will be a while before I jump around in front of mirrors and skinny women. I feel good that I am doing this.
Kayelle-send me the link so I can applaud you.
Melissa- maybe SIL should help you out with Logan, since you are surely helping him with the girls. What would he do without you-stay home?

12-23-2005, 07:08 PM
Laura, I sent you the link. Hooray for joining the gym!! You will love it in no time. I used to dread any kind of exercise, now I hate to miss even a day. Even when I have a not-so-good day with food, I always try to get a good workout in.

Melissa did you get all the baths done? It used to wear me out just getting 2 kids bathed. Hope you get to go see that movie soon. You really, really deserve it, and Laura is right...I bet he wouldn't mind helping out with Logan after all that you do for the girls. He probably would be happy to be able to do something like that and give you a little much-deserved break.

I am more disturbed by the snake food than I am the snake itself. Frozen baby mice IN MY FREEZER! Now that is a little weird. It's a good thing I'm not really squeamish about anything (except spiders ewww). She only eats once a week, too! Wouldn't life be easier and cheaper if we only needed and wanted to eat once a week?

I just wish I could overcome my "all or nothing" attitude about food. It seems like if I mess up, I REALLY mess up. If I'm eating healthy, it's incredibly healthy. Why can't I just find a happy medium and overcome those tendencies to binge after one bite of something unhealthy? I've done great since last weekend but now I'm worrying about tomorrow night and Christmas Day. I want to enjoy myself and have some good food but NOT stuff myself with it.

12-23-2005, 07:44 PM
You are stronger than I am LOL. If the snake wasn't enough, his diet would push me over the edge. I just have Logan and Josh left. Logan wound up going down for his nap early and Josh does most ok, but I need to wash his hair for him so will wait until the girls go down. I think this is the only night of the year no one argues about bedtime.

Congrats on the gym Laura! I joined one a few years ago and had a trainer and they are very helpful. I wound up quitting because my back was hurting so bad and my hips not realizing at the time it was the arthritis and now getting away is impossible.

I think if he had known I was wanting him here, he would have come and watched the kids for me. He really has no clue what it takes money wise to raise the kids. I had told him last time he was here, that it would cost him 1500 a month if he had a live in and I think he almost had a heart attack at that one. Just daycare if he drove local would be 1000. That is one of the main reasons I don't get a job outside of the home, adding the other two, would be almost 2000 a month so I would work for free and also not be able to pay any other bills or feed anyone. I am basically considered foster care for the kids and Jason is getting an awesome deal which I think he realizes. I still haven't started the letter to Katy-I just don't know where to start or what I should say or not say.

While I am excited for the weekend, I will be glad when it is over so I can start to focus on me again.

12-23-2005, 09:25 PM
Melissa- Maybe when things are easier for you, sometime soon, you can look into it again, because this place has water classes for people with arthritis. I'm sure other places have it too. I have arthritis in my right foot and left big toe, but it is a different kid of arthritis, because it was caused by injuries. I think that's much easier to deal with.
Maybe you can start the letter with-Dear Katy, I love you, always have always will, no matter what. And one day, when things are better, you will have a life that will allow you to love these 3 wonderful children, everyday, all day.
Is that too mushy?

12-23-2005, 10:04 PM
I got a letter from her today. She sent it to my mothers house so I had her read it to me over the phone. She had a gal come from the Four Square Church and she prayed with kate and gave her a bible. It was a very nice letter and she thanked me for taking care of the kids and said she wouldn't want them anywhere else. She still says she is pregnant so it looks like sometime next year I will be moving again since there is no way I can fit 5 kids into this house but I will cross that bridge when I get to it. I guess there is a possibility that if she pleads drug related that they will put her in rehab instead of jail? I am not sure how that will all work but it looks like we should know more on the 30th of the month. I just truly pray that she means it this time and she promises that I will see my daughter back soon. No your letter isn't too mushy at all and I will be saying those things when I write her back. I was just so glad she got a bible. She wants to be reunited with her husband so I will be praying God prepares his heart and will take her back when she is clean and sober. I am going to tell her too that I couldn't make the bread this year because it wouldn't be the same without her-who would eat all the squishy parts so I could have the crust?? I will have a house full tomorrow so I may not get a chance to post. We wake up tomorrow as if it was Christmas morning so I know I will be busy playing with the kids and then everyone will be over and my Odessa will be spending the night with relatives from Jason's side of the family and Amanda, Logan, and I will be going there on Christmas Day.

I have wanted to do those water arobics before. I think they have classes at the pool at Forest Park through Snohomish County. It is just so much with all the kids. I basically go grocery shopping and go to dr. appointments. Logan is due again on the 6th and josh has a med check on the 3rd. Ok I guess Odessa just had an accident so I better go deal with that. All 4 kids are crystal clean now-Logan figured out how to splash so he had a heyday!

12-23-2005, 10:48 PM
Melissa- I know you won't read this till tomorrow, but wouldn't it be wonderful if she really hit bottom and is ready to turn around. Do you really think she is pregnant? If she is, and she turns around, maybe sometime down the road she can come live with you and the kids and you can be a family together.
Would Jason want tp get back with her? It sounds like he is gone alot. Will he want Logan and a new baby that aren't his? Maybe you could get a 2 family house,so you could be right near the kids.
I am fantisizing for you. So let's throw in winning the lottery, which is my big fantasy.
By the way, I was reading the forum thing the other night and saw that some chicks call OP off program. We summer starters call in on program. I don't want to talk about off program. DH bought a new cookbook and has filled the kitchen with pecans and cheese and crackers and it's calling me, but I will resist.

12-24-2005, 02:35 PM
I am hoping it is bottom. She is talking about rehab and a half-way house. It will all just have to wait until she is released-IF she is released. Jason and I had talked about buying a duplex and I hope he is saving some money like he is supposed to. I am saving change and put 10 a month away myself. I wish I could save more but with diapers, formula and groceries-yeah right. I hope that down the road that Jason can forgive her and they can be a couple again. Logan and the new baby aren't his but I know that when my parents married there was already me and my brother and if you ask my Dad how many kids he has he always says 4-he did that even when we were growing up. I like On Program better since it is positive and I am looking forward to having normalness again.

The kids were all up early and I have hardly seen hide nor hair from them. They are all busy playing. I better get going here again. I still can't find the livingroom floor and I have the second table to set up. My wonderful Dad brought it for me this morning.

12-24-2005, 03:03 PM
Kayelle, send me the link, I wanna see the pics!!!!

Melissa, I really hope Kate gets straight, but even so it's going to be awhile before she'd be prepared to take on the kids again, and could be trsusted to do so. Hang in there, the future will come out one way or another.

Okay, there's way too much to respond to everyone and I'm off to make cookies for Santa with the kids...just popping in to say MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!

Let's not change our OP...that will just confuse a dumb blonde like me :lol:

12-24-2005, 05:03 PM
Theresa - I PM'd you the link. You know it's funny how we have perceptions of how people look without ever seeing them. For some reason, I was really surprised when you said that you're blonde. I don't know why, but I think I always subconsciously picture people with brown or black hair. Maybe since mine is dark brown I think everybody else's is, too? Weird.

Melissa it does sound like she is ready to make some changes. I hope and pray that she follows through and gets her life straightened out. The duplex idea sounds like a wonderful solution. When we bought the house we live in now, we added on and moved my Mom into the new part. She has her own living room, bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, and dining room. The only room we share is the laundry room, but if she needs anything we are right here for her, and if we need anything she's right here for us. It's been an awesome living situation for us. She wasn't ready to leave the farm but couldn't take care of everything by herself, and this was my childhood home and there is nowhere I'd rather live. The bad part of it is that once my kids are out of the house, if my mom ever decides to move, we will be left with a huge 8 bedroom house with just my husband & me. We have talked about fostering or adopting but that is a few years off yet and I don't know what we'll end up doing.

How is your day going, Laura? Have you been able to stay out of the goodies your husband brought home?

Everybody else...HI!!! Hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!!

Food has not been great for me already today. I got up and got in a good workout right away but then I just kind of fell apart food-wise. I am just trying not to make myself sick. Yesterday I made oreo balls because my whole family loves them and they are a Christmas season only thing for us...but I absolutely love them and haven't been able to stay out of them and they are FULL of sugar, fat, and calories. NOT a good thing in them. But they are so rich and taste so good. Then I made some bread in the breadmaker because that's another thing I only do at Christmas time so of course I had to sample that as well. We also have ButterBraid (a locally made pastry that is just amazing) in our freezer that we bought through a school fundraiser. We always get up really early on Christmas morning and bake it before the kids get up so we have a special breakfast (another Christmas-only tradition for us). So I already know tomorrow will be another difficult day. At least I have managed (so far)to make myself stop before I feel sick. That may be the best that I can hope for this weekend. Monday I will have to get myself right back OP so I can feel normal again. I like our OP=on plan. Changing would confuse me, too. (and I'm not blonde!)

Merry Christmas everybody!!!

12-24-2005, 05:35 PM
Well I am a bit irritated. It is now 130p my time and no one is here yet. I had to put Amanda down for a nap and both Odessa and Joshua are beyond help waiting for them. It was almost noon and they hadn't even left yet. I guess my spin is that he hardly sees them because he is on the road and I guess I feel he should get his butt here and spend the time with his kids instead of off visiting till all hours and bowling. Can you tell I am irritated???? He said last minute things but holy crow he had time to go bowling. Ok I am done griping for the moment. I guess I am just a bit jealous since they get to have all the fun and I am stuck with all the responsibility of things and sometime next year I will have another kid to take care of too.

12-24-2005, 07:11 PM
Oh Melissa, I'm sorry you were let down by Jason. He sounds like a big baby today.
I was thinking about Kate and a new baby. Do you think if you told her 5 kids were too much for you, and you need her to get straight and live with you and help take care of everyone, it would help her turn around? It is time for her to stop being a baby making machine and start caring for them too.

I blew today in every way, We wanted a nice quiet day, cleanup, get some food, exchange gifts with3 friends, read relax etc. Instead oldest son called in the morning, 8 o'clock and we chatted. He said he was tired and was going to nap. I called him back at 1 and he didn't answer, cell or house. He always picks up. I called 10 times, all afternoon, slightly hysterical, stuffed on cookies and ice cream. Finally DIL called to say hi from her cell. We had a bad connection, but she called to say they were going to Xmas Eve dinner at her cousin's. All was well. I don't know why he didn't answer all day, but clearly I was crazed for no reason. I do this too often. My head hurts from so much sugar.
Kayelle- The photos are wonderful. Thanks for sending them.
I wish I could do for my mom what you've done for yours, but she won't leave NYC. She has lived there all her life and won't move to the boring country.
Have a lovely Christmas Eve everyone. Jan 2 will be here soon.

12-25-2005, 03:03 AM
I am still hoping the pregnancy is a false alarm. My Odessa is off spending the night and it just feels plain weird not having her here in her little bed. They didn't show up until 330 today but it was a nice time and the other truck driver couple they brought were very grateful and kept telling me thank you for having them and everyone loved the meal so I am glad I could be a blessing to someone else. Heaven knows me and the kids were very blessed this year. I want to wish everyone the Merriest of Christmas's!
I blew it today bigtime too Laura-too much to even talk about. I don't feel sick or anything but I know I had more than I needed and some things I didn't need to eat at all. One more day for me and it is time to get serious and get moving that ticker down again. I set aside two of the gift certificates just for myself. Part of me feels selfish for it but I am going to need some clothes shortly.

12-25-2005, 10:50 AM
why are we waiting till Jan 2? Why not tomorrow? It means getting thru New Years Eve, but so what? I want to be OP tomorrow. I feel so out of control and fat.
We are off to Xmas morning Christmas at DIL's family's diner. The diner is closed and they make breakfast for family and some close friends. The kids are in their PJs and it sweet and cute, but my newlywed son (5 months) and DIL have been fighting and the marriage is rocky and I don't know where it is going.
When you have 4 kids, it's hard to have everyone doing good at the same time. Oldest son and youngest son are unhappy right now, 2nd son and daughter are doing good. My problem is that I worry too much about their issues and it stops me from doing or getting what I want, like eating when I hear them upset keeps me fat. It's easy to say what to do, (stay out of their problems and don't eat) but hard to do it.
I hope Christmas Day goes well for everyone.

12-25-2005, 11:22 AM
Merry Christmas everyone!!
I tried to post last night but my computer froze and by that point I was not ready to retype everything.

Why is it we work so hard and slave over food - cooking and making things so "right" and then 30 minutes later the food is devoured and everyone is done and we are left with TONS of dishes??

I ate way bad yesterday and will prolly eat bad today. i ate too much and foods one shouldn't eat (under any circumstances) Spinach dip with 100 calories per tablespoon - all kinds of mayo foods ( tato salad & slaw) chocolate & cream tarts -cheesecake. cheese dips and chips.. ARRGH i was really mad at myself last night and then thought ok think of it as a slip - it doesn't mean you gotta keep eating BAD from now on. Just go back to what you know is right.

Melissa- of course keep a couple certificates for you - you can't wear clothes that don't fit!

Kayelle - i 'd really like to see the pics- you are such an inspiration to me!

Laura- 1st congrats on the gym - I find if i eat too many sugars or processed foods i get a BAD headache along with other bad symptoms.
Laura, I am Restarting Dec. 30- but until then i will eat carefully and try to make an OP plan that really works for me along with exercise- i really want to lose 15 pounds by Feb. 21 .that is my mini goal for now. My problem is that i am lazy-I know what to do and how to do it - now i just need to have that motivation and DO IT. I am the only one who can do this so i need to stop letting myself down and do something for me. See below why i am starting on Dec. 30.

Theresa- I always pictured you as a redhead- (not that it matters) but you are so "sassy" and i mean that in a good way - i just thought she has to be a redhead! Kayelle is right, our perceptions of other are different than what we finally see!
Maybe MIL will take some pics today and i can do a before pic, during pic and after pic.

I hope everyone is having a wonderful day with friends and family!

p.s. I am not sure if this is allowed to post or not- i'm not advertising or posting a link to it so if i am wrong i apologize to the mods & this site. - But has anyone heard about the great body challenge? it's 8 weeks of free tips- exercise, food plans recipes etc.. and info from discovery health- i found it on their web site. and since it's free i plan to sign up- sounds like fun - you can't register till Dec. 30 but it's my new years "present" to me :lol:

Merry Christmas all !

12-25-2005, 02:23 PM
I know I am going to at least get my ducks in a row tomorrow so I can start either tomorrow or Tuesday depending on how together I am. I know I am tired and I think it will be a late day again today. I guess there is a flood watch at exMIL's so there is a slim chance that Josh will get stuck out there. If josh wants to come home though Dennis will get a canoe if he has to-LOL. I am sure it will all be fine though and so far, Josh is planning to spend the night. I am down to 2 kids and I can't get over how quiet it is here. It got quiet with just Odessa gone. They will be here between 12-1 to come and get us so I figured I would get some laundry done while I am waiting. I got them all packed up for the day. Logan even slept until 8a today! That is an absolute first for him.


12-25-2005, 10:52 PM
HI Ladies! I hope everyone had a great day with family and friends, OP or not! I definitely was NOT! I agree with Laura, tomorrow is back to OP, I'm not waiting till Jan. I will be at Curves first thing in the morning after inlaws leave.
My inlaw gripe for the holiday-my inlaws claimed sickness, then went to the casino instead of church where my 12 yo, Caitlyn, was performing bass with the youth band for the first time! :mad: OH, but they won $150, like that makes up for missing her performance?
Kayelle- I wanna see too! You are my inspiration!
Theresa-I, too, pictured you a redhead, like Sandi!
Sandi-I entered the body challenge last year but didn't have anyone to do anything with:( Maybe we could join as a group?

Well, here is a poem I found, made my hubby crack up!!! Thought you'd all like it!!

Month after Christmas

Tis the month after Christmas, and all through the house
Nothing would fit me, not even a blouse.

The cookies I'd nibbled, the eggnog I'd taste
At the holiday parties had gone to my waist.

When I got on the scales there arose such a number!
When I walked to the store (less a walk than a lumber).

I'd remember the marvelous meals I'd prepared;
The gravies and sauces and beef nicely rared,

The wine and the rum balls, the bread and the cheese
And the way I'd never said, "No thank you, please."

As I dressed myself in my husband's old shirt
And prepared once again to do battle with dirt---

I said to myself, as I only can
"You can't spend a winter disguised as a man!"

So--away with the last of the sour cream dip,
Get rid of the fruit cake, every cracker and chip

Every last bit of food that I like must be banished
"Till all the additional ounces have vanished.

I won't have a cookie--not even a lick.
I'll want only to chew on a long celery stick.

I won't have hot biscuits, or corn bread, or pie,
I'll munch on a carrot and quietly cry.

I'm hungry, I'm lonesome, and life is a bore---
But isn't that what January is for?

Unable to giggle, no longer a riot.
Happy New Year to all and to all a good diet!

~ author unknown ~


12-25-2005, 11:52 PM
I hope everyone had a great day!

Mine was filled with food food- more food and NO self control:(
I am back OP tomorrow too- at least eating wise- i already cut up oranges and grapefruit for breakfast and i am doing a 1 day eat nothing but good for you day. I am going to spend this time gettting together and getting back on a schedule. i really feel I need to be organized and this will help me be prepared for any last minute changes in my schedule. I am gonna be retentive :lol: and make schedules for the weeks ahead.
i go out of my way to do anything for everyone BUT leave myself behind when it comes to taking care of me. the house will not fall apart and the kids will not suffer if i spend an hour a day when they are doing homework or playing so i can exercise. Until the other car is running so I have to exercise in the afternoons- can't get everyone ready and hubby to work and get in an hour in the a.m.

Melissa- hope the flood issue worked out ok.

Kathy -loved the poem it is so true! I am going to check out the BC - i really have no idea what the specifics are -but am willing to be a partner or part of a group-
I figure anything to help with exercise advice and diet can't hurt. I get all my motivation from my summer starter friends- But it's a challenge and I LOVE challenges! I think I can be a bit competitive :lol: ( hubby says no... not you.. with heavy sarcasm in his voice. ) Shame on your inlaws!

My inlaws got me a really cool digital fancy super duper scale for Christmas.
and fancy rechargeable toothbrushes? (i asked my FIL if he was trying to tell me something. ) Oldest daughter got me all the Biggest loser books and DVD but they are still being shipped.. Should be here by jan. 4th. Also got goodies - hubby & I didn't buy for each other as we put that $ into our anniversary fund, Feb 17 will be #10 for us. we want to go away for 3 days and i'd rather put $ toward that.
The kids had a great day and I did find out my BIL is bringing back his son next week but they have another family member who is willing to keep him- at least he didn't have to spend Christmas in a homeless shelter or in DCF custody.

back to water and OP tomorrow! Scarlett may say tomorrow is another day but i am saying why wait- keep putting it off and it'll never get done!

See ya'll tomorrow!

12-26-2005, 02:09 AM
It's 1:00 AM and I am stuffed and feeling awful and fat and all around yucky. We went to DIL's parents and there was fabulous food and I had spinach pie and mashed potatoes and shrimp and goat cheese and 5 kinds of dessert and too much wine, especially for me because I rarely drink.
Then we came home and I was on the phone with other DIL. It was the first time we really spoke deeply since she lost the baby and we were on for 3 hours, going over every minute and everything we felt and thought. It was a relief for me because I really love her and circumstances with her family have kept me apart from her, but it was good that she turned to me as soon as her parents moved to their own place. My boy is not handling his grief well. He is drinking and sleeping and hiding. At least DIL and I are both on the same page re him. I am hopeful. They are coming here tomorrow for 2 days and I hope we can talk to him and let him know that what happened with the baby was an accident and not somehow directed at him.
Anyhow, I am ready to be OP tomorrow. I reallly need it.

12-26-2005, 09:00 AM
I did really well at Christmas, but only because I was at MILs and the people there were motivation to keep it straight. First, there was SIL, who lost over a 100 lbs. and is now putting it back on. This was a huge reminder of what I do NOT want to do. I watched her nibbling on the desserts and turned in the other direction...I had NO sweets, imagine that!

Then MIL who says she is going to lose weight, all the time she says this, but only gets larger. Nothing wrong with that, I've been there, but she runs her mouth too much. She used to give me weight loss stuff every year, intending to be offensive. You could always just see the evil in her face, and even hubby would be offended some years. This year, she didn't do that, she did worse and acted as if she didn't noticed I had lost anything.

That didn't bother me much,, but what got to me is the pettiness. SIL has always been chatty and nice with me, but yesterday she kept giving me these weird looks and wouldn't talk much to me. I caught her and MIL several times standing together, obviously discussing me and looking me over. MIL barely said anything to me at all. I am not completely left out of that little women's circle, which is fine with me anyway. I expected it from MIL, but SIL has always liked me so it confused me. The ony change is that she has gained and I have lost, so I have to assume she's just being catty.

Funny, this year I am losing weight and doing it right, and she knows this, and she doesn't get me any of those weight loss gifts, which she always claimed were just meant to be "helpful." This year she got me a cooler to put in the van...and hubby got to looking at it and found it was a freebie through the health insurance company. Hubby and the kids really made out, but I get the freebie. That's okay, at least they gave me something I guess. I think it's more the way they talked about me, looked me up and down like I was dirty or something, that has me feeling I was slapped in the face in a way. I actually stayed with the kids or the men most of the day.

SIL always gets me too-small nighties for Christmas. This has baffled me, since she knows I cannot wear a regular womens size M or something from the teen section. BUT, this year she got me a size L bath robe and it actually fits!!!! I am pleased, it's been so long since anything without an X would fit.

The only one who said anything about the weight loss was SIL's hubby, and I didn't hear the comment. He said to my husband, "wow, Theresa lost a lot of weight!" :D I was happy when he told me about it.

I had one plate with a little of everything I like, and no sweets. I came home hungry though and had a turkey sandwich, not bad for the day.

Kayelle, you look amazing in your current picture! You don't just look thinner, but more alive and happy as well. It's in your face, you just look more lively and healthy. You are one hot rocking mama, and my biggest inspiration.

Laura, I am so glad you were able to reconnect with DIL. Why can't you be my MIL?

Sandi, I was also the type to care for all and forget myself, but that has slowly changed over the past 5 months. It took adjusting, but I no longer feel guilty taking the exercise time and the kids don't even pay attentiong..they could care less what I do :lol: long as they are content for the moment, it's all good. Please let me know when you get the Biggest Loser DVD. I want to buy it as well, but only if it's worth the $$. Give your review when you do it. Oh, and I never thought of myself as sassy :lol: interesting to see yourself through others eyes sometimes.

I am checking out the body challenge to see if I want to do it...Kathy, did ya make it to curves this AM?

Melissa, a haircut and a quiet house...those are the best gifts you could get this year :lol: You should get some clothes with the gift cards, don't feel guilty at all. I am returning a stack of clothing from the in-laws, which they got hubby and he will never wear. he said I can return them all and get myself some clothes instead so that is the plan! You deserve it, get yourself something nice...a good pair of jeans that fit you well, every woman needs that when in the house with kids. I've found my new jeans make me feel better about myself, even I don't go anywhere. I hate it that Jason didn't take the kids and give you a break. Sounds like these people just expect you to raise their children while they goof off, totally taking advantage of you. Maybe you should have just outright told him "come spend time with your kids, I need a break." I have learned that men do not read women well, and you have to be very blunt with them if you want to actually accomplish something. Sometimes with hubby I feel I have to beat him over the head with a brick to get him to understand that I jsut need 5 minutes alone and he has to take the kids for that to happy. Sounds like Jason needed a brick as well.

Okay, I know I missed some people but there is so much I missed and this is such a long message, I will catch up with more later. I am going OP starting today. I am now focusing on my goal of being under 200 for my birthday, Feb. 15. I am also going to pick out a good song and make a little strip tease for hubby, and use exercise time practicing and getting it together. This will be a Valentine's present, and since that's the day before my birthday hopefully I'll be under 200 and looking better for it ;)

Okay...going to check out the body challenge soon as I get the little man something to eat, he keeps giving me the sad eyes and saying "hungie!"


12-26-2005, 09:04 AM
I went to and can't find the great body challenge, even with a search of the site. Can someone send me a direct link? I'm blonde, remember!

12-26-2005, 12:01 PM
Theresa- I just went to Discovery health and in the search i typed in National Body challenge and it took me to FAQ about the challenge. I think it's the great national body chakkenge but I typed in National body challenge and it got me to info about it. Will try and get a link for you . hated computer keeps freezing.

Laura - I hope the visit will be good all around. and i'm glad you and DIL got to talk. She sounds so sweet and i am glad she has you to reach out to.

As soon as i get the DVD & books I will give a review. I am excited and ready to start. I hate to start at the new year. i don't like these new year resolutions- seems just like a fad or the thing to do. not a commitment to a lifestyle change. I did get on my fancy scale and weighed in at 164.5 so no gain but no loss either. :( I need to be happy i DIDN'T GAIN!
I cleaned up this a.m. and am working on a really straightforward schedule for things that need to get done and when to accomplish them, chores, menus and exercise schedule. of course things happen - illness - hubby being off. :lol: but all in all a good thing for me. it just seems that when i bagged my snacks , had menus and had everything organized i could concentrate on me - when things are all crazed I just grab whatever and eat with no thought of is it healtlhy or not.
Theresa- i bet you burned calories just fuming at you Inlaws- maybe MIL told SIL something and thats why she acted weird? I feel for you. I am not sure i'd be polite enough to put up with that type of behavior from inlaws- i'd have to be either so sweet it'd annoy them or be rude right back. I guess it was a good thing they were so :p cause you didn't over do it (like me)

I am making a goal to lose 15 pounds between now and Feb 20th. thats bout 6 -7 weeks and not a huge goal. i'd like it to be more but will aim for 15 pounds. i am going to do it by eating healthy and exercising.

have a good day everyone- going to see narnia today and still busy cleaning bedrooms- i told hubby my exercise bike was not his towel rack!

12-26-2005, 01:11 PM
I AM DEFINATELY OP. No falling off today or all week.
Theresa- Now you certainly don't have to see MIL and SIL for a long time. They need to earn your next visit and I don't think they know how. They don't deserve to see you or the kids till they figure out how to behave.
Sandi - You really will meet your goal.
Son Jeff, DIL and the 2 boys will be here soon. I have a huge chicken in the oven and DH is making lots of roasted veggies. We will make potato pancakes because it's traditional for Chanukah.

12-26-2005, 01:15 PM
I am with Theresa for goals. I want to be 199 by my birthday in Feb also. I got my little notebook out and will get the menus going. My house is totally thrashed! I kind of felt like a fifth wheel yesterday. The kids made out like bandits! I am going to have to go through clothes and freecycle some because I think in total they each got at least 7 new outfits which is great. It was a Dora Christmas for Odessa and she is thrilled. Josh came home about 1045p last night. He made it longer than I thought he would. When I get a spare moment, I would like to check out the challenge too. I have got to get some order back into the house cause it is driving me crazy! Today will be an official pajama day for the kids cause they are all wiped out too so they can lounge and play today.

12-26-2005, 04:53 PM
Okay, who pays $45 for a bath robe? I went to Kohls to return this robe my SIL got me, and that is what the thing cost her!!!! I traded it for a new pair of exercise shoes ;) much better use of the money, IMO. By the way Allie acted, she should have been home having a PJ day with Melissa's gang! We did get out of there alive, so I can't complain I guess.

Melissa, sorry you felt like the fifth wheel, but at least the kids got more gifts, they deserve it! So it's a race to 199, huh?

Laura, the chicken and veggies sound yummy...can I come over? :lol:

Sandi, I don't like new years resolutions either. I think we are all beyond that, since we have been working at this for so long already...5 months in this group I believe! We are months ahead of it just being a resolution. Your goal sounds like a good one...and YOU CAN DO IT!!!!


12-26-2005, 05:21 PM
My kids are all so tired! Two are now napping. I wouldn't spend 45 on a robe lol but at least it was enough to get you something you can really use. I can almost see my kitchen again and two more loads to wash and all to fold. My livingroom is a disaster and I am trying not to let it get to me. I am kind of miffed because they bent up Dess' tent and it won't stand up right now so I am going to have to see if I can bend things back well enough to make it work. I am not making a resolution either, I am just getting back on track again and I am also putting my gift cards on the fridge so if I am tempted I can look at those and tell myself that I would rather go shopping for something that looks good and fits!

12-26-2005, 05:37 PM
:crazy: Mine are exhausted and cranky and clingy and on my last nerve. Glad I have a whole year before this happens again.

12-26-2005, 08:51 PM
hi everyone. i didn't even have time to catch up on posts, but i wanted to stop in and say howdy y'all from texas. diet sucks. goodies on the counter all the time. family hangs out in the kitchen. it is a diet war zone in there. i've eating horrible but somehow i've been losing i think. prolly muscle because i haven't been going to the gym (they don't have one here).
hope kate is not preggers. holy cow that would suck.
laura, you are doing well to stay away. i would too. or else i would rip that woman's head off.
merry christmas late!

12-26-2005, 11:47 PM
Kids on my last nerve- hubby on my last nerve - the cat etc...
FIL buys all kinds of new movies and loaned some to us. i really didn't wanna see the movie because i had planned to do stuff tonight- like clean up the room, fold clothes- but no i had to stop and watch the movie. I whine too much ya know? at least my hubby wants to spend time with me. movies are ok at times but i am not into much tv- especially when i feel i need to get stuff done. ok enough whine for this week :lol:

Hey Candace- Merry late Christmas!

I have never spent 45 $ on a bath robe- maybe 15 at wally world :p
I thought Kohls was a discount store? we don't have any around here -there's one in Orlando but thats an hour from here. I would have returned it for something practical too :)

I am going to go get a chicken and bake tuesday ! That made my tummy growl!
All i want right now is light- fresh foods- no more mayo or greasy or heavy foods.

Has it been 5 months?? I have only lost 12 pounds in 5 months :(
I am lazy -plain old lazy-

I am going to go crash cause it's back to work tomorrow
see ya'll tomorrow!

12-27-2005, 12:19 AM
I would say Kohls is not a discount store by any means, but it might depend where you live. Their prices are high as most department stores, but when I lived in Ohio the one near us always had great sales with better prices. I hadn't been in there since I moved here to NC seven years ago, so I was surprised to see that a plain t-shirt was about $20 in that place...a bit pricey for me these days. I couldn't find any clothing that I liked enough to pay their price, esp. their plus sized stuff. With the Christmas prices it wasn't bad, but I just didn't see anything I really wanted...besides a pair of blue cotton exercise capris, but who wants to pay $22 (on Sale!!) for exercise pants? Maybe in the summer when I am exercising outside at the track, but even then I could get the same exact kind of pants at Walmart for way less.

Geez...I used to buy clothing if I liked it and never thought about the price. Things have sure changed since the kids came around. I feel guilty about paying $15 for jeans for myself, but will pay twice that for a nice dress for Allie...I have got to get myself straight in this department! I could have easily spent that money on the kids, their clothes were adorable, but I decided it was my christmas gift so I got the shoes instead.


12-27-2005, 01:40 PM
Quiet day here ladies, hope we are all off being healthy and striving toward the new year. My goal today is to only drink water and to save up calories during the day because I am going to a surprise birthday party for MIL this evening and don't know what will be for eating. I don't want to go to this party, but hubby volunteered me to help SIL set up decorations beforehand, so this will be interesting. She called hubby and asked him if I would help and he said yes. She should have called ME if she wanted my help, not him? :?:

Okay, off the rant. I'll check back this evening if the kids don't totally wear me down.


12-27-2005, 04:07 PM
Rant all you need to. All 4 kids are cranky today and totally out of sorts and I am trying really hard to be patient and not become a Yetti! I made myself some WW soup for lunches for me. I wound up blowing it bad again yesterday so as I was laying in bed this morning waiting for Logan to start singing to me, I was wondering what my gig was. I was so together before and losing! Anyway what I came up with is that I am purely overwhelmed and I dont' usually handle that well and I was putting myself last again since there are so many demands on my time and energy. Joke of it was is that the house isn't any cleaner by my skipping myself nor are the kids anymore put together. The only difference is that I am putting my weight back on and of course at that point too I began to panic and stress and freak out. Also counter productive. So one of the things I am going to try and do is just cook dinner earlier in the day. I can reheat it when dinner time is here. Being the ol' lady I am, by the time dinner is here, I am just wiped out and go purely for convenience which is not healthy for me or the kids. I know once I get back to losing again, I will have more energy and be feeling better too so that should just make things fall into place better.

12-27-2005, 09:06 PM
I had my eldest son DIL and 2 boys here overnight. I fell apart late last night and ate icecream and cookies. Today we took them to the Chinese Buffet, the boys favorite restaurant and then we all went to a 3:30 movie, The Producers. It's fabulouly funny. So that's another day of being not OP. But back to Scarlett I go and tomorrow is another day.
Theresa-I've never had a $40 robe and I don't want one. I once spent $80 on a pocketbook that I love madly. I don't spent $40 on jeans either or even a sweater. I wonder if we all will feel different when we like the way we look.
I hope we can all pull together in the next few days and get back to our good old ways.

12-27-2005, 09:24 PM
I think I will be thrifty no matter what I weigh LOL. My mother always says she has never seen anyone stretch a dollar the way I can. Today OP was right on! I just got dinner over and Odessa and Joshua are being reminded that if you aren't hungry for dinner, you aren't hungry for anything else either and it isn't going well for them. My house is still a mess, the kids are still a mess but I feel so much better already. I didn't drink enough water today but I will work on getting that back into my habit too. I just keep peeking at those gift cards. I told myself I couldn't use them until every pair of pants I own fall off which is where I was before I fell off plus about 10lbs. I guess it is good for me to lie in bed and have epiphanies(sp). I should take time for them more often.

Yes Scarlett, tomorrow is another day! I had gotten back on yesterday and then wound up blowing it but I got right back in today and today was successful. I think that is the difference between those who do lose their weight and those that don't. You just can't give up EVER.

12-27-2005, 09:47 PM
overwhelmed makes me want to sit in a corner, cover my head and cry.
and I have only about a 1/4 or less of what you deal with Melissa. but it seems like there's always dishes- there's always laundry and there's always SOMETHING to do.
Oh joy Theresa- :hug: to you for having to deal with MIL and SIL so soon after Christmas?

Melissa- have ya thought about crock pot meals?? or cook once eat twice meals?? i can't imagine the stress you go thru trying to get the kids to sit nad eat and feed Logan etc.. when my eldest lived here i at times made 3 different meals at dinner time - I had no idea what i was thinking then. of course there are still times where i wonder what in the heck am i doing??

Theresa- i used to be the same way years ago - when married to the ex -i never had to worry about the cost of things- i used to shop at high end stores but after being a single mom for a few years and marrying the second time for :love: and just enough $$- i am such a penny pincher. I told hubby we really needed to shop at Super walmart or Super target. it does really save a lot of money- i am always amazed at the price differences. I will always be a penny pincher/coupon clipper- i enter every contest i can :lol: can't win if ya don't enter. - I keep saying if i could fit into smaller sizes i can shop at the outlet stores and save $$$

I weighed in today early a.m. no clothes and before breakfast- scale said 163.5 I think i will do a "test" this week to see if it stays like that or changes and chart it and do an average LOL then do a weekly weigh in.
Food was good today- water needs to get better. school needs to start soon!
the kids are bored and i am ready to pull out my hair. and then i do things like make hubby homemade apple crisp and homemade (yep ) whipped topping. I ate an apple and glared at him :lol:
Laura - it's so wonderful that you know you can get back OP and not let a bad day blow everything you've worked hard for go away. we are going to see the producers this weekend- i've heard it was awesome!

I really believe that this time of year emotionally and mentally challenges a person and trying to stay OP is hard enough without any extra baggage added.
think i'll go read a bit of Gone with the wind- Love that book!
Night all

12-27-2005, 10:08 PM
I did snag a bunch of WW crockpot meals and I think I am going to do that next shopping trip. If I can put it together in the morning, it will go much better for me and there is so much you can do with a crockpot. I got one, it has just been sitting in the cupboard-LOL. I just know that with all the kids I have to get smarter about things or I am going to have to change my name to Namu or check myself in to a place that has Thorozine on the menu.

12-27-2005, 10:52 PM
Back from the party, and I am exhausted. I actually made a bigger trip than expected: went by a friends house to give her some DVDs my kids no longer watch, then drove to Lincolnton, went to Belk and returned 2 shirts that SIL gave to hubby and he won't wear (got a whole $4 back :lol:), went to Walmart and waited to meet someone from Freecycle who took 40 VHS tapes that the kids don't watch and I got sick of looking at, then went to the party, put up decorations and jumped out to surprise her, served food and drinks with a pounding headache, and then listened to Allie whine all the way home that she left her baby there and I would not go all the way back. :yawn: where's my bed?

I am sitting down now to make a plan, set some goals, something. Just to think through how much time I have and what I can do to get going again. I just need to get my head straight on what I am trying to accomplish. I am not going to be under 200 by my birthday, that's 38 lbs. in like 6 weeks and I know I just can't do that. Look at my sig, that is the goal I've come up with for now, hope I can at least make that.

Melissa, be careful with the gift certificates, some expire after a short period and others the value can somehow go down if used too far after Christmas. My mom was telling me about this, I didn't know. Just make sure you don't wait too long, then they might not be any good! Maybe you can buy clothes in the next size down, or whatever size you'll be when you get to this point you'll want the new pants...then you can work your way into them? WOuld just hate it to go to waste.


12-28-2005, 12:27 AM
Holy smokes girlie-you were busy busy busy! These are gift cards so they won't go down in value so that part is nice. I dug up the crockpot recipes and made the grocery list. I talked to Kate briefly tonight and she is going to be released either tomorrow or on the 30th. She got papers from cps that she lost custody of Logan so I have to call tomorrow and find out what is going on. She may go stay with maryann for couple days so David can't find her and I told her to call her caseworker and see if she can get placed somewhere. She still sounds panicky and I need to know what happens now with Logan since she doesn't have custody anymore. The saga moves on!

You have a good realistic goal for your birthday and just think how much more of a dance you can do if you pass that up?

12-28-2005, 02:03 AM
What do you mean so he can't find her? What is that guy doing out of jail? Geez, if he is walking free it says so much about our court system, they should not have let him go, why would they? I am rooting for her, and also for Logan to stay with you. Seems they would have contacted you about this, but my hopes and prayers are with you and the little man, I'm sure he's going to stay with you.

Okay, really going to bed now!

12-28-2005, 08:59 AM
Hi everybody!

I don't have time to read and catch up on everything right now, just wanted to pop in and say hello and hope everybody is doing great!

I am trying to get through the rest of the week and stay as OP as possible. The weekend was really bad for me but Monday was a little better and yesterday was a lot better. I had a few treats, but I also got in an hour and a half of good hard exercise, and I ate all my fruits & veggies. I feel so much better today now that I am feeling normal again. I still have 2 more Christmas parties to get through Friday and Saturday. One is at my husband's grandmother's house and the other one is my Mom's Christmas here at my house. I stay out of the kitchen all year long but I always make desserts and goodies for my Mom's Christmas and my sister's have been making requests for weeks already so I am busy making things that I shouldn't touch.

Have a great Wednesday!!

12-28-2005, 12:41 PM
It looks like we are all back here again and that's a good first step. So far today is OP. I'm going back to fitday, which is always a big help because it's hard to avoid a calorie number.
When I look in the mirror when I am OP, I can tolerate how I look. When I am off and I look, I just see all the fat.
Weird huh?

12-28-2005, 01:13 PM
It isn't weird at all. When I was OP and losing, I noticed the possitives in the changes even though I was still overweight. When I went off and was eating all kinds of ick, I could hardly stand to see myself in the mirror and didn't even go near my scale.

I am still waiting for Michelle the caseworker to call me back.

12-28-2005, 01:16 PM
Does Michelle know that you want to keep Logan?
Has Kate lost permanent custody or Temp? They really do move fast in WA. In NY the child is 25 before the workers move their butts.

12-28-2005, 01:18 PM
Laura, I am the same way with looking in the mirror! I can also tell if I am going to be up or down on the scale by how my waist feels. Sometimes if it's not a good waist day I will skip the scale altogether.

I was not good at the party last night, had 2 cheeseburgers and some chips. I didn't eat lunch and was starving, which is always a mistake for me. The scale is still the same, so I am back OP and making sure to get back on the exercise schedule again. I made up a new one last night and it starts today! I don't feel good when I don't exercise, so I will feel better by the end of the day.

Kay, I am glad Christmas is over for me...good luck with your last two parties! I would be a bloated balloon if I had all the parties you do!


12-28-2005, 01:31 PM
Yes Michelle knows I want custody in the event that Kate was not found fit or blew it. Kate was all in a panic because the new guy being tested as Logan's father said he was going to sign rights over to David-told Kate he couldn't do that and to relax about it. I am not letting David anywhere near this baby or the one she is carrying if I have any say over it. It looks from what I got from Katy last night it is permanent. Once you have a dependency hearing, you don't get any chances to mess up. It is your one shot to prove to the state that you are capable of caring for your kids. She went to jail-all done as far as I know. That is why I am waiting to hear from Michelle to see about my getting permanent custody of him and if it is going to take a bit, I am I allowed to let Katy come see the kids at my house or does she still have to go to their office. I don't want to be breaking any rules and mess up things for Logan. Washington is really rigid when it comes to child welfare and child support. I guess Kate lost her driving privilages because of the support she owes for the girls and my ex is driving without his lisence too.

I am with ya'll about Christmas over! We don't do anything for New Years so that won't be an issue for me either unless I make one for myself which I am not going to do. I am even hoping to get decorations put away today so I can start getting the house back our normal.

12-28-2005, 04:53 PM
I too am SO glad Christmas is over. I just want to curl up on the couch and take a nap:lol:

I hope the case worker gets back to you ASAP Melissa- poor kate- she must be so scared about this guy who i can't believe they let out after all his priors?? can she look inot an order of Protection against him? although that could make him mad - but if he came around her he'd go back to jail. sometimes you can't seem to win in these situations.

Not weird at all- when i look in the mirror I get upset when i am not OP too .thinking why aren't you doing something about it? I always feel i know what to do and how to do it- it's just actually doing it. follwing through i guess.

Kayelle - Finally got to take 5 and see the pics and WOW! you are such an inspiration and what a success! I am so amazed - in awe- :lol:
Ya done good !

I am waiting for my books and DVD to get delivered they shipped Monday so they should be here Friday or Saturday i hope.

New years is going to be quiet- we turned down parties - too many drunk people and too loud not my type of music ( i am getting old ;) )
We have gift certificates to a couple places in town so we may order out and we'll order a couple movies - we are old and boring:p

Ok Theresa- we're on for 15 pounds for Feb. -we can do that- especially as much as you exercise- Just keep :drill: at me and i'll exercise too- and Melissa you're gonna hit ONederland faster than i make feb. goal! I really feel good about all of this and we can be successful!

Crockpots are WONDERFUL little pieces of kitchen equipment - no home with children should be w/o one! I have a link to a site that has great WW crock pot recipes- it's on my computer at work tho i'll get it tomorrow and send it to you Melissa


12-28-2005, 04:59 PM
Okay Sandi, you're on for 15 lbs. We can do it, just get moving. Tomorrow is grocery shopping and I can get all OP foods and get back to it. I did some exercise today, but feel I am not as in shape as I was before Christmas, it tired me out quicker and I didn't feel so light and peppy. I just need to do the strength and pilates and get loosened up again.

I am still sick in a way. My nose is draining down my throat so I still sound like a croaking frog when I talk. Tyler's nose is draining out and running everywhere...why does mine have to be internally runny? No fair. Well, rather me than the little guy, want to get it out of him.

I am going to do the gazelle during Montel...if the kids allow it, they are quietly playing in their rooms right now but watch, soon as I step on the thing they come out crying for something :lol: God bless Christmas toys, it has been keeping them nice and occupied today.


12-28-2005, 10:51 PM
I am going to the grocery store Friday afternoon so i can get OP foods too- I wish i could go tomorrow but no time i hate going on a friday afternoon - I want to go to super wallyworld or target as they have whole chickens for 69 cents a pound, (great for crock pots or roasting) and their yougurt is so cheap too. and eggs- since when did eggs get so expensive? regular store is 1.19 a dozen and at wally world it's 88 cents a dozen!
Right now it's slim pickings around here- I am watching portion control tho and i made chili tonight with leftover white meat ground turkey and they didn't even realize it :lol: I just browned it really well and hid anything that could have given it away - I am so sneaky!

I did have a non scale victory today :carrot: ! I was so stressed out by work that i really thought about grabbing junk out of the kitchen - but i broke open my snack bag of carrots and celery instead- i also realized that i was stress/emotional eating and not really hungry. I need to clean out my fridge at work so i can fill it up with water and good stuffs.
Work was unreal today- i have the type of job where i have to depend on everyone to get me info so i can do my work- unfortunatly I have to deal with people that aren't getting me information- this puts me behind. and i hate to be behind on jobs! I will be glad when holidays are over and i can get back on a normal schedule

I tried to exercise tonight and got about a half hour but i too feel blah instead of good afterwards. sigh -now i know what happens when one slacks off on exercise- it's gonna hurt :(

Quote from Melissa:
"I think that is the difference between those who do lose their weight and those that don't. You just can't give up EVER. "
This is now my new motto- it just clicked with me - it's now hanging in a place of honor in my motivational area- along with candace's description of a poptart! Thank you Melissa!

Well i am off to read another few pages of GWTW
have a good night all!

12-29-2005, 12:25 PM
Remember my 3 year old neice that I wanted to take home with me at Thanksgiving because my half sister had her living in a hotel room? Well, I have been on the verge of tears for her all morning. My older sister called and said Elaina (half sister) and Lexi (neice) showed up at her door at 4AM a couple days ago and said they had been living in a small hotel room with her boyfriend and his mom, and the boyfriend was keeping Lexi there while she worked. This hotel is occupied mostly by prostitutes who walked the halls naked, drug dealers, guns, etc. Well, this day she came home to Lexi screaming and saying the boyfriend hit her in the head. He said yes, she wouldn't stop crying so he punched her in the back of the head and then said he would beat Elaina too if she didn't shut the child up. The mother was wastd on cocaine and laughing on the bed about it. So, Elaina went to my sisters hysterical.

She totally trashed my sisters house, had Lexi running around naked, and finally my sister told her she had to find somewhere to go, they don't have room for her because my dad is already staying there and Elaina is very disrespectful and dirty. She did offer to keep Lexi and even raise her until Elaina gets it together, but of course Elaina refused. Right now they are supposedly staying with a friend of hers for a couple days helping prepare for her wedding, but when she comes back they will have nowhere to go and I am afraid she'll go running back to that hotel room.

My mom is going to be keeping me informed and if she goes back to that guy, if my sister doesn't call children's services I will call from here. I feel so sad and worried and there is nothing I can do for Lexi. Guess I know kind of how you feel worrying about Kate and her kids, only I wish I had Lexi here with me. She has been living one place to another her entire life, no stability, no real care, and someone just needs to call on her. My sister will take Lexi, so it's not like she'll go into foster care. I am so sad guys I don't even want to eat.


12-29-2005, 12:30 PM
Forgot to say, my older sister has lupus and since all this and some problems at her work, her face rash has flared up again and she's feeling bad. I am afraid all this stress is going to do serious harm to her. I feel guilty because I am here in NC, living a peaceful, nice life and she is there picking up the pieces of our dysfunctional family. I feel I should be helping, it shouldn't all fall on her shoulders, but there is nothing I can do from here. Guilty, guilty.

12-29-2005, 02:06 PM
I would definately call children's services asap! How old is Lexi? She needs to be out of there before too much more damage is done and even now it will take some time to get her feeling stable and secure. It breaks my heart. I just wonder what these girls are thinking when they have kids. Kate is supposed to be released today and I am still waiting for Michelle to call me back. It is funny because when the state wants you to do something for them, you get them immediately on the phone ect but as soon as you have done what they needed you to do, it is impossible to reach anyone.

12-29-2005, 03:24 PM
Theresa i woudln't wait to call child services- it sounds as if there are issues and even if she goes back to that guy for 2 minutes he could cause some serious damage to that baby girl. I have always said it's better to make a mistake in favor of the child. I can't imagine a baby girl being mistreated but stupid adults do it all the time. and who knows where your 1/2 sister could end up. I'd either call or get someone back home to call.
Don't feel guilty about being so far away- you can't control what other people do or how they act. It's sad adults let their lives fall apart and hurt their kids in the process.

It's like with my nephew- he's an unwanted kid and he knows it- his mom would rather smoke crack and his dad has a new wife who doesn't want him and the dad is (my BIL) is a loser stupid head anyway. I feel so miserable tht that this kid is related to me even tho it's by marrige, and i can't help him at all - his grandparents on his mom's side are loaded and the kid didn't even have a jacket to wear to NC -and his sneakers were falling apart and his grandmother sits there with her diamond's flashing and whines about her new 50 thousand dollar car.
(i wanted to smack her - i really did) His dad is bringing him back this weekend and he's going to live with his step dad who is seperated from His mom - i am slipping the kid my phone number in case he ends up on the streets. I know when my inlaws tried to help him before his mom called the cops. And she told my hubby she'd have him arrested for kidnapping- but I won't let him live on the streets. she wants a fight I'll give her one

Melissa- I hate dealing with the state - you have to jump thru so many hoops and it's crazy-with me I'd be calling every 1/2 hour and as it got later I'd call every 15 minutes. But I am annoying like that- When my mom had to have surgery 3 years ago- in other words the doctors said she had maybe 5 hours to live if she didn't have the surgery and they kept denying her paperwork because of a wrong date the hospital put down and i started calling medicaid case workers and then went right thru the phone book with congressmen and state senators and then called the govenors office and told them i was calling the tv and newspapers if she didn't get that surgery- it ahd been approved but when the hospital called the case worker was at lunch and too busy to call back . But within 2 hours she had the surgery. Even tho my mother and i are estranged and haven't spoken in almost 2 years there's no reason a person has to die becaue they have no insurance and need surgery. there are times I get so ticked off!

Will be keeping everyone in my prayers.

12-29-2005, 04:44 PM
Theresa-definately call protective services. You will feel terrible if the little girl is hurt.
Melissa- I hope Michelle gets off her butt soon.
None of us is talking about food today because kids lives are at stake here. Our stupid ice creams and cookies and chips mean nothing.
I spent the night at my yougest son's house. He is adjusting to a med to help control his tremendous mood swings and it affected his belly real bad. Terrible pains, so he stopped the med. I am so anxious that he get on something and I am hoping he follows thru today and calls the shrink to get something else. He is too old for me to take him by the hand which is what I want to do. I came home all itchy and smelly because apparently the blanket I picked up when I slept on the couch belongs to the 150 lb great dane. It was a little stinky, but I was so tired I didn't care. But I came home smelly and hairy.Yuck.
We are celebrating a friend's birthday tonight at a Chinese restaurant. I've been there before and stayed pretty well OP. I've had less than 500 calories today so I should be fine. (ah oh, I mentioned food)
It's very gloomy here. Warm and raining. It's melting off last week's snow so it's muddy and depressing. I need a beach and sun and water and a few thousand dollars to pay for it.

12-29-2005, 07:47 PM
I want to call protective sevices so bad it's killing me. I would have called first thing this morning when I heard about all this, but right now we don't know where she is. I am a bit ticked at my sister, because she had them there in her home for two days and didn't call. They were homeless, on the run from a loser who punched this 3 year old in the head, and no one called. My dad really wanted to call, but he didn't because he doesn't want Lexi to be taken away. I think she NEEDS to be taken away...obviously. They are homeless, she's been abused, god knows what else happened to her in that hotel room, and someone needs to do something for her. Right now I am waiting, soon as she is back from her friends wedding we will know where she is to call on her. I don't see calling and saying oh, but we have no idea where hse is.

I'm going to call my big sister tonight soon as she should be home from work and see if she has heard anything from Elaina. They have it all worked out and are ready to take Lexi in. My dad has agreed, since he is living with my sister now free of charge, to babysit as needed and to pay for her daycare, she'll go to daycare with my sister's boys. My sister will take on all other expenses and make space for her to have a little room and bed somewhere.

What gets me is that Elaina was laughing and joking like all this was funny, esp. the prostitute walking around the hotel hallway naked, she thought Lexi was clueless because they kept her in the hotel room 24/7. This child was being locked in this little hotel room, with roaches, with a strange man and a woman on drugs, and she spent every moment of her time in there, not getting out to run or play. I have cried so much today my eyes are puffy. If Elaina would allow me to take Lexi, I would drive up there right this second and get her. Seriously, I would raise her like my own and get lots of advice from Melissa, but she won't allow it. Soon as I know where she is I'm calling, that's that. I told my sister that and she wasn't thrilled, thinks we should give Elaina time. I don't agree with that at all. I feel like I'm the only one who sees the urgency in this, how much danger this little girl is in. It's not just some child, it's my neice and I can't take the pain of this.

Food wise, doing good, not much exercise, but maybe crying and worrying burns calories??


12-29-2005, 10:46 PM
Call, call, call. If services steps in, it won't matter what the mother wants, the state will do what is in the best interest of that poor baby. If the mother is serious about doing what is right by her child, then she will get her act cleaned up. Push for dependency-it takes 12-18 months to complete and during that time Lexi can be with either you or your sister and getting the care and love she needs and also if mother isn't going to comply, there can be permanent placement. My prayers are with you-I know just how hard all this is.

12-29-2005, 10:55 PM
Melissa is right. Children have a different sense of time than adults. It's slower and next week or 4 weeks is very far away for them and so much more can happen. Besides she might be in danger. Her mother obviously is smashed and not caring. As long as a family member wants her, she won't be swallowed up by the system.
There's Jewish belief that if you save one person, it's the same as saving the world. And this might be your time Theresa

12-29-2005, 11:35 PM
I agree with that belief and this may just be your time to save another human being who would otherwise be lost forever. She is still young enough that all this bad experience can be wiped away and she can grow up being a self-confident woman and end the destructive cycle her mother has begun.

12-30-2005, 12:34 AM
Well, I am more confused than ever now. I talked to my BIL, sister's hubby, and he gave me a totally different story than what my sister said :?: he said Elaina and Lexi were living in her car, outside the boyfriend's mother's house, because he was allowed to sleep inside but the mother wouldn't allow her and Lexi inside, so they were staying in the car outside. He said the guy didn't punch her, but slapped her upside the head, which is still abuse in my opinion. I don't know if Elaina is changing her story or if there's some mis-communication going on here, but i have to get ahold of my sister tomorrow and straighten it out.

What I do know, is that Elaina is now in toledo, ohio with her sister, who is getting married this weekend. Her mother is coming from Colorado for the wedding and Elaina could possibly go back to Colorado with her. I don't know if that is a good thing or not, since I do not know her mother at dad had an affair with her mother, then when she got pregnant with Elaina he ditched my mother and us (3 kids) and ran off with her, so I didn't even know Elaina until she was older and I don't know the mother at all.

They don't want to call on her now, since she left the guy. But that doesn't solve the problem. She is still homeless and not making good decisions for Lexi. I think I will call tomorrow, even if just to ask what they do in situations like this when you don't know exactly where they are but someone is in trouble.

I ate too much tonight, just flipping out over this. Sandi, you are great to give that boy your number...just make sure he knows it's there and that he can always call you. I would have said something to that woman, I am not good with biting my tongue sometimes.

Laura, I hope your sons belly feels better soon. You're a great mama to go care for him.

Melissa, did Michelle ever call you back??? Does Kate have somewhere to stay when she gets out, or is she going to be homeless?