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mcoe
11-30-2005, 02:24 PM
I got ear stapling done one month ago. Within 30 minutes I was craving water and did for the next 3 weeks. I quit drinking 3 pops a day and could only drink 1/2 of a can and sweets grossed me out. im 200 lbs overweight and lost 10 lbs in one month. They arent working so good anymore so Im gonna get them redone.:carrot:


bnbsmommy1
11-30-2005, 02:44 PM
I'm glad that they worked for you but I'd like to point out that if people choose to do this that they need to go to a VERY experienced person who does this using a sterile technique.

I'm a nurse, and a few months ago a lady came to town and did TONS of ears, within a week we had people coming in daily with pain and infection. Definitely not worth it if you have someone do it wrong and you have to pay sixty five bucks (or more) to have a doctor remove it.

Lacey

starstruckintx
11-30-2005, 02:47 PM
Never heard of ear stapling. What is supposed to be the benifet of this? And where and why would someone get this done? I thinkt aht is all the ? I have about it. I didn't know it could be done and sounds really odd.


MrsJim
11-30-2005, 03:28 PM
Well I would assume that it's based on the acupuncture principle but it still sounds like BS to me.

I just googled and came up with the following articles:

Update: The weight loss ear staple (http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=4106334)(from KFOR.com, Oklahoma City News - includes video)

Ear Stapling for Weight Loss?
Don't count on ear stapling to be the magic solution for weight loss. (http://www.webmd.com/content/article/70/81142.htm)

And guess what - Ear Stapling is nothing new. Every few years or so, this topic crops up (usually including anonymous testimonials on how a friend's cousin's aunt lost X amount of pounds afterwards) then the fad vanishes after (I suspect) most people who go through this discover it doesn't work.

Apparently at this point, the fad is based in Oklahoma - I would bet that the RN mentioned in the ad is the catalyst of this newest 'uprising' - she has a website offering gift certificates and 'advice' as well as one-day training seminars (for an undisclosed fee of course). I would assume she is making quite a profit, at least at this point while the fad is still hot in that area.

The training will consist of shadowing me with clients and one on one instruction on the philosophy and history of ear stapling, identification of acupuncture points of the inner ear, access to all of my paper work( waiver, after care instructions, diagrams, etc...) Also marketing tips, guidelines and how and where to purchase your stapling equipment. Too many details to mention. You will receive a training notebook, a staple gun and information on how to start your own business

Apparently the staple is supposed to "work" for a time frame from 6 weeks to 6 months. If not you go back and have it 'repositioned' until, I assume, they find the 'spot' in your ear cartilage that works.

(well you can probably tell at this point that I think this is a bunch of hooey...if *you* want to go this route, then go ahead, but I'll pass, personally - I'm sure it will die out soon and then about 5 years from now, it will crop up like a bad penny!)

starstruckintx
11-30-2005, 03:38 PM
To be honest I have my ear peirced all the way up and the top 2 did kinda help me eat less. But now that the newness has wore off of it it does nothing for me. I just like my peircings frankly I'm weird. Go figure. Anyways I don't see how ear stapling can help even with that information. It doesn't seem to jiv for me. Oh well on to the next solution.

pumpingiron
11-30-2005, 04:41 PM
WHY WHY WHY do people feel they must resort to trying such potentially dangerous garbage? (infection and disease are not worth any weight loss IMO) I don't get it. I have 30 lbs to lose and yep.....I've had it for a while and yep.....I feel desperate and depressed sometimes. I try to take that energy and put it right back to fighting the war on fat!!!! I won't let it win. Never in a million years would I dream of putting my health at risk for some FAD DIET TRICK. That just defeats the whole purpose!!!!! I wish people would stop preying on the desperate folks and get lost.

MrsJim
11-30-2005, 05:20 PM
Hey if Ear Stapling works, why not go ALL THE WAY and do it right, like Rik Mayall's character in the BBC show The Young Ones:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/images/400/youngones_1.jpg

:rofl:

pumpingiron
11-30-2005, 06:30 PM
Does that cause carrot top too? :carrot: :carrot: :carrot:

LOL

Just kidding---no offense meant to anyone!

funniegrrl
12-01-2005, 12:26 PM
ooooh LOVE The Young Ones. LOL. Yup, definitely a child of the '80s here ... *ahem*

Anyway, ear stapling is actually an OLD weight loss fad. It's one of those "been around, coming back around" things.

Yogini
12-01-2005, 12:38 PM
It is illegal in many states to perform this type of procedure unless one is a licensed acupuncturist or medical doctorand even then, I have never seen nor heard of an acupuncturist or doctor using a "gun" or "staple" in this way. An RN started this latest craze? She should be ashamed and should know that only a licensed medical professional should be performing such an invasive procedure.

Tealeaf
12-01-2005, 12:59 PM
I have a feeling that any procedure at all, anything period, will work on some people due to the placebo effect. If you tell someone that painting their nails with this special color of green nail polish will cause them to lose weight, then for a while they will convince themselves that they really are less hungry and have less urge to snack. Being able to see (or feel) whatever procedure is helpful, or having to remember it by taking a pill or whatever.

So yeah, I think ear stapling might work. If you believe it will. Or same for sporting green nails.

Amarantha2
12-01-2005, 02:26 PM
I think Tealeaf is right ... anything is effective if you think it is! :)

Also, I agree that the idea behind ear stapling is acupuncture ... I've heard theories about pressing a point in the ear having the effect of short-circuiting cravings or the desire to binge.

Seems like pressing a point in the ear would be cheaper and safer than shooting a staple in there! :)

GreatBigMonsterMomma
12-01-2005, 04:51 PM
Y'know, I've been stapled twice in my life--to be closed up after my c-sections. I think, to lose weight, I will stick with diet and exercise. In my experience, having staples in you feels pretty much as bad as you'd think.

bnbsmommy1
12-08-2005, 08:24 PM
yep, Oklahoma is where I live too.

*running off to paint nails green*

teehee:D

MrsJim
12-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Y'know, I've been stapled twice in my life--to be closed up after my c-sections. I think, to lose weight, I will stick with diet and exercise. In my experience, having staples in you feels pretty much as bad as you'd think.

I accidentally ran a staple under my fingernail at work about 15 years ago...

Dunno what was more painful - the staple or the bazillion CAL-OSHA & workers comp forms I had to fill out afterwards (nope, I didn't go to the doctor... :carrot: )

jaimie39
12-08-2005, 11:41 PM
Im from Oklahoma (this is my first post other than in the buddy up thread!) and I started hearing about the ear stapling a couple weeks ago. I work in a cafe and Im seeing people with it on average of once a week. The first time I saw it I wanted to ask the lady if it was working but thought that might be rude. She had a hard time deciding what to eat and settled on a salad as we dont exactly cater to the dieting-lots of frying and down home food!
I guess theres a doctor here doing it for about $60. I cant believe that it actually works...

kitgyrl
12-26-2005, 07:03 PM
I had my ears stapled a year or two ago. It was a traveling doctor who came to Texas. It cost me $75 to get both ears stapled. It is supposedly like continuous acupuncture, and they staple inside of your ear, above the hole. It hurt really bad! After one week, I removed one of them with the gadget they gave me to remove them. They said to let them know quickly if it didn't work, and they would try it again for free, up to a year. I left the other one in for several weeks, it never worked, but, made for a lot of interesting conversation by people who noticed it in my ear. I only know of one kid that said it worked on him, but, he gained his weight back quickly. The doctor was really upfront that there was only about a 50 percent chance it would work, if that much. He also said that if it was going to work, it would work immediately. I've decided it was a waste of money.

Moon Jaguar
12-28-2005, 05:53 PM
oh. OWWWW! (both at the idea of ear stapling and the $75!) :eek:

LaurieM35
01-18-2006, 06:47 PM
Ouch!

Kar Kar
01-23-2006, 10:11 AM
I am new to this forum. I did have my ears stapled last Thursday. It cost $55.00. It really hurt at first. Will keep you posted. I think in this weight loss world everyone has their moment of trying something outragious.

Amarantha2
01-23-2006, 10:33 AM
I've never even had my ears pierced ... just seems like a lot of extra pain I could do without. :) Will be interested in your follow-up experiences, Kar Kar! :wave:

MrsJim
01-29-2006, 10:53 AM
I've never even had my ears pierced ... just seems like a lot of extra pain I could do without. :) Will be interested in your follow-up experiences, Kar Kar! :wave:

Slightly off topic but I've had my ears pierced (the lobes) and it really doesn't hurt. Those piercing guns get the job done in a second.

Back to ear stapling - again, this is a FAD that has come and gone over the years, and now I suppose has come back again for a little bit (apparently mostly in the Southwestern region as I've yet to see it happen here in CA). Most of the "positive" remarks I'm reading - both here and on the 'Net - have either been from people actually DOING ear stapling (I wouldn't call THEM exactly an 'unbiased source of information') or people who have had it done, or "I know a guy..." or heard of someone having it done, most of whom have had it done a relatively short time ago and have lost a small weight, most likely from what Tealeaf has said is the 'placebo' effect. Folks...this doesn't mean it WORKS. If ear stapling "worked" there would be LOTS of people losing and KEEPING OFF, for the LONG TERM, a significant percentage of their weight.

Meanwhile here's this recent article from the Batesville (Ark) Daily Guard:

Ear stapling - Miracle diet or dangerous fad? (http://www.guardonline.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=32881&format=html)

Ear stapling is similar to true acupuncture in that its goal is to stimulate a nerve through piercing, but the similarities end there. Most acupuncture techniques make use of 10, 20 or even 100 needles and only stimulate the targeted meridian points for a few hours, not constantly. Also, a staple is relatively large when compared to an acupuncture needle and could do more damage to the flesh than is intended. Acupuncturists never pierce cartilage. The chance of serious infection is much higher with the stapling as well, and clients could experience nausea and other side effects.

“There’s a serious medical risk here. The cartilage does not replace itself, meaning those who get the ear staple will have permanent holes in their ears. Why would you want to let someone with no medical background place a foreign object in your ear,” Betsy Day, clinic coordinator for the weight loss clinic at the University of Arkansas for Medical Science, told the Guard. “It would seem rather suspect if medical physicians are performing the operation.”

http://www.guardonline.com/photos/00007239-constrain-240x420.jpeg
IMO not a pretty sight - if you wear your hair over your ears this might not be a big deal but having permanent marks where they can be seen...not my cuppa tea personally...

and about licensed acupuncturists doing the procedure:

...according to Dr. Michael Ranft, a doctor of oriental medicine, DOMs and other holistic healers are prevented by law from performing the procedure.

“Licensed oriental doctors cannot do it. Medical doctors have a universal license which allows them to perform such procedures,” Ranft said. “Acupuncturists don’t do it because it requires piercing the cartilage, and we don’t do that; we work with soft flesh. We don’t use staples in our practice, and you can run into problems when you leave what is supposed to be a temporary staple in someone’s ear for months ... People want to leave these in for months, but I would want to check it every week or so.”

My guess is that this current wave of ear stapling will burn out after a few months or a year...then in about five or ten years its proponents will come out of the woodwork again - after people have forgotten that it doesn't work, they'll just remember that lots of people TRIED it. :shrug:

And IMO opinion (keeping in mind that while I know several people who HAVE had acupuncture, though not for weight loss) I don't believe this is the same as acupuncture, it might be VAGUELY related but for the reasons stated above - going into cartilage and leaving the staple in - not the same as acupuncture.

Kar Kar
01-31-2006, 12:18 PM
Update: My ears have been hurting after the stapling experience. My co-workers were fine but was not seeing any results so we went back yesterday to have them adjusted. The lady told me that my ears were slightly infected ( I cleaned them like you were suppose to) and that I needed to wait 3-4 days before having them replaced. So I will give it another shot since I already paid for it. I will let you know what happens. My co-worker has not had any "experiences" yet.

Amarantha2
02-01-2006, 03:42 PM
But how does ear stapling differ from simply having one's ears pierced and placing foreign objects in it for cosmetic purposes? I've never done either, so am not clear on that. Ears are pierced everyday in the mall, I was just curious as to how this is different? :)

GreatBigMonsterMomma
02-01-2006, 07:23 PM
Ears are pierced everyday in the mall, I was just curious as to how this is different?

Look at the photo MrsJim posted. That's through cartilage, not the soft tissue of the ear lobes. Much more danger of infection, if nothing else. Not to mention that there are hygeine standards involved in even mall kiosks when it comes to lobe peircing. I'd have serious doubts over the sterility of someone traveling around with some sort of stapler (and those do look like normal staples as well). :nono:

More to the point, though, no one's telling you you'll magically lose weight by having your ears done the normal way.

Okie_Gurl
02-02-2006, 12:31 AM
I got my ears stapled about 3 months ago and for the first couple weeks i was really tired and craved water. Now 3 months later they're still in and doing NOTHING! My best advise would be to not get them, I've got two tattoos and my toung and bellybutton pierced and i'd rather do those again than get my ears stapled. It only cost me $25 for both ears and there were about 6 of us who went and got it done, needless to say, we thought it was worth a try for $25 (They also claimed it would help you quit smoking, and help with medical problems.) and we were wrong, none of us have lost any weight, we're all still smoking like freight trains and now we've all got staples in our ears that, me personally, we're afraid to take out because it hurts putting them in and most things hurt worse coming out. But honestly it's not worth the time, pain, or money.

Brytax
02-02-2006, 07:31 AM
"Slightly off topic but I've had my ears pierced (the lobes) and it really doesn't hurt. Those piercing guns get the job done in a second."

Piercing guns are the DEVIL! Nevermind the fact that a blunt object is being rammed through your ears, you're trusting someone who had a 5 minute "instructional" use a non-sterile instrument (which can carry hepatitis, AIDS, and any number of things on them) with your body. Those things need to be outlawed....(ok, so yes, slightly anal-retentive when it comes to the ear piercing guns, theyre just not safe)

Amarantha2
02-07-2006, 01:13 PM
Thanks for your response to my question, Mama! :) Very good points, no pun intended.

Wanted to clarify that I've never been of the opinion that ear stapling for weight loss is effective, safe or useful. I just wasn't clear as to the difference between regular ear piercing and weight loss ear stapling, as I've never done either.

The stapling fad seems a little like the botox parties that were somewhat popular years ago ... I went to one ... declined to be shot in the face with toxins from a needle wielded by a person with no qualifications of any kind to be invading people's bodies.

Of course, I have wrinkles now, but ...

Brytax
02-07-2006, 07:00 PM
And, by the way, where they are putting the staples is called a daith piercing. By god, if that area worked so well, my friends and I would be beanpoles.

http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/01-ear/A60206/high/bmegl218488.jpg

4myloves
02-10-2006, 11:48 AM
Ho-lee CRAP!!!

That looks MUCH more painful than that little staple MrsJim posted!!

Tealeaf
02-10-2006, 12:42 PM
Perhaps. But it also much prettier. I'd rather have that in my ear than some stupid looking staple. But it's all relative; I'd much rather have no piercings there at all!

Lafayette
02-10-2006, 01:52 PM
I read an article on this in Women's World many years ago. Apparently, you use the tip of your finger to put slight pressure on the stapled area when you feel hungry and it takes the hunger away. Or, you can just slam your hand or other body part in the fridge everytime you look in it!

It might work and I might be desparate but I'm more concerned with keeping it off this time!

tobetheman
02-12-2006, 12:38 AM
to be honest i though it was in the inside of ur ear's hole, which I though is insane cause this is near the skull and brain. Now that I see this pic, i can see it is not and only affects the cartilage of your ear which is more acceptable. I think acupuncture works when u have a very very qualified person performing such task. Yet, I do recall this staple thing in the ear a long time ago when I was only a kid, and thought what the heck is that about. I don't know if it would work but time will likely bring out the truth. I personally am heavily leaning toward the it doesn't work area, but if proven wrong that would be nice.

GreatBigMonsterMomma
02-13-2006, 08:02 PM
Or, you can just slam your hand or other body part in the fridge everytime you look in it!

:rofl: That would probably work much better for me than accupressure.

DeeJae37
02-13-2006, 11:40 PM
I thought I had done heard it all, but ear stapling?? You've got to be kidding, don't know where I've been but this is the first I have ever heard of it.....and losing 10 pounds in month after doing it? Well, the losing part is definately great, but hey I lost 11 pounds in my first month, and I'm not following any diet plans, or going to any extreme measures to do so...the best way? The old fashioned way, "Watch what ya eat, do it in moderation, and excerise...I'm sorry but this is ridiculous!!!!