Weight and Resistance Training - LWL # 229 Nov. 14 - 20




View Full Version : LWL # 229 Nov. 14 - 20


Mel
11-14-2005, 08:31 AM
Happy Monday LWL!

This was such an exhasuting weekend, going back to work today should be relaxing. I spent a day raking after working half of Saturday, then all day Sunday was devoted to FOOD. I made a Turducken ( http://www.chefpaul.com/turducken.html) and some pies, which are safely tucked in the freezer.

No workouts since last Thursday :o I was sore everywhere and needed a break. Back on plan today! :D

Mel


Ilene
11-14-2005, 09:49 AM
OMG Mel, that Turducken looks really complicated no wonder you spent the day in the kitchen!! :faint:

I made my Christmas meatballs last week and it took me an hour :D ...

I've got to get on a better food track... My calories are ok, but the food is not clean and I feel it!! Today I am doing LEGS :strong:... Back later to report...

TTFN :wave:

teapotdynamo
11-14-2005, 10:44 AM
Wow, Mel, my husband has been threatening to make Turducken for Thanksgiving. How harrowing WAS the whole process?


4rabbit
11-14-2005, 12:38 PM
Hi LWL,

Wow Mel, that turducken really looks complicated!!! I can imagine you was busy in the kitchen for the whole day. is this for thanksgiving?

Today I had a bad day. I had an emotional weekend, the first weekend that XH had the kids. Then I heard from a friend where XH had been to dinner on saturday, that he had been discussing that he hoped to bring his new love to the parties in our communal circle of friends. I completely flipped at that. Of course this is up to the friends, but i phoned XH and has an emotional and tearfull conversation with him. I do not accept that he is injecting NL (new love) in my sphere of living with this (in my eyes) undecent speed. He only told me about her like 5 weeks ago, now he is planning to live with her in about 1 month, then that my kids will go there part of the week after school, and that she will be attending at parties at our friends. I cannot take this, I told hime that I would take like 2 years as a minimum before I could handle being with her at the same party, and that he is embarrassing our friends and myself by even suggesting this.

As some kind of reward I went out and bought myself an electric drill for sinterklaas, and I used it already to make a hole in the wall to hang a mirror that my daughter had decorated especially this summer. My first self-drilled hole in the wall, this hould mean something.

But I am still very down and tearfull. I have taken another pill to pick me up a bit. I am not proud at myself for this day, but maybe this is just the kind of day that you only have to hang on in here. Nothing else.

Have a great day all,
rabbit

4rabbit
11-15-2005, 08:35 AM
Hi LWL,

The pill did its work and I am up again. Today I went to work and i made arrangements to work monday mornings also. I think it is better if i start the week with a structured activities especially after the kids have been at XH for the weekend. Woirk this morning really helped to take my mind off things. Besides that, I need to build up more stamina because I will need the earnings of this job.

What is nice is that I met a female colleague of some years back and a chat with her really cheered me up. We exchanged adresses and I can go visit her when the kids are at XH again, have some fun. With XH injecting his NL in our communal circle of friends, I need also to expand my circle of people.

That said, I can face the rest of the week with some confidence again. I was down yesterday, but now I'm okay again. I will just have to wait and see how things develop. Yesterday XH removed his plants from my house, so i am ready for som redecoration. I really like the more empty look I have now, and I may hang new curtains.

Have a great day all,
rabbit

Ilene
11-15-2005, 09:50 AM
Rabbit -- Hang in there things will get better... I can almost bet that MANY of your friends will be upset with your XH and will not be as accepting of his NL as you think they may be. I personally think that he is making himself look bad and not you and your friends. Things, I think, will settle down and you both will find new circles of friends, like the new friend you made a work, now that's a good thing...

Yesterday wasn't a good food day, AGAIN... I can't seem to get a handle on turning around and saying NO and walking away these days. Same with the working out, I'd rather stay home or go shopping :lol:... Well on that note, before I convince myself again to not go to the gym, I am OUTTA here!! :wave:

tikanique
11-15-2005, 11:05 AM
Rabbit, I bet that when it all shakes down, your circle of friends will divide - there will be some that he spends a lot of time with and that embrace him and there will be those that embrace you. However, it all takes time. I remember trying to get used to the kids being gone and man it was hard at first, but each time they were away, I got more and more used to having time alone to think, run errands, just do what I wanted to do when I wanted to do it and now I CRAVE my weekends with them gone. You will too. You will need that time away to focus on yourself so you can be a better you and therefore, a better parent to your kids. Keep on making new friends, decorating and moving forward. That's the way it goes. Step at a time.

I am having a good week so far. I had the BEST weekend that I've had in a long LONG time. It involved time with my girlfriends, time with the cute guy, an end of season cheer meeting / party, tequila and cards with more friends, gym time, and plenty of napping on the couch on Sunday. I tried a new Kwando class at my gym last night to shake things up. The instructor has NO RHYTHM!!! I worked like a dog, but couldn't help laughing at the poor guy. The cool thing though is that by going to the gym last night, I found out that they offer a spin class from 7 - 8PM so I'm gonna try that next Monday. Today was legs and I properly shredded them. Then I wore 4 inch knee high boots to work. I guess I have a death wish. Tonight is a hair appt. so I can be cute for, well for me I guess!

Ilene, get your food in gear. If you don't turn around and say no then you are going to HAVE to go shopping - for BIGGER CLOTHES!!!!

Tiki.

Ilene
11-15-2005, 11:36 AM
Ilene, get your food in gear. If you don't turn around and say no then you are going to HAVE to go shopping - for BIGGER CLOTHES!!!!
Tiki.

OUCH!!!! Damn, THAT hit home !! Thanks Tiki!!

4rabbit
11-16-2005, 04:12 AM
Hi LWL,

Tiki, Ilene, thanks for the support. I guess it's true what you say: I will loose some friends, and I will make new ones, and in time I hope I will like to have the time to myself when the kids are gone for the weekend.

I'm off to do some curtain hanging, and general chores.

Ilene: Pity about the food!! Is this because of the holiday season??? I read in some other post that only a couple of days are the real holidays, so why would you treat the entire 6 weeks untill new year as a food war zone??? Of course all the shows and magazines urge us to see the holidays as very food centered but this surely hinges on the idea that food equals love and good times in the family. You can have love and good times also with less focus on food! Watch a great video together, go for a walk, Maybe go ice skating instead of eating cookies??

Have a great day all,
rabbit

ShannonM
11-16-2005, 10:57 AM
Pardon my intrusion, but are newbies allowed to post in this thread? I lost a fair amount of weight a while back, but regained 10-15 lbs earlier this year that I'm trying to lose. Weightlifting and a bit of running is pretty much all I do for workouts. I'm pretty consistent with my workouts but my eating is total crap right now, and I could definitely use some accountability in that area, preferably from fellow lifters. Could someone let me know if I've stumbled into the right place? (This forum is huge, and I feel a little lost sometimes.)

Ilene
11-16-2005, 11:07 AM
Shannon -- Welcome to Ladies Who Lift -- You are very :welcome: here and anywhere you make you niche on 3FC... We positively, LUVS newbies here :dance: ... I also weight lift and run... We also have a running thread in the exercise forum, so come and join us there too...Shannon as you will soon see, many of us have no problem with the exercise part of healthy living, it's the dang FOOD :devil: that drives us :crazy:....

Rabbit -- I'm not sure what is my food problem lately... I'm not stressed, I may be bored a bit though... and I will do something about that, not sure what yet though :^: .... I had a much better day food wise yesterday and I feel good today about food too, so I'm off to a good start...

Off to the gym....TTFN :wave:

ShannonM
11-16-2005, 11:28 AM
Thanks, Ilene. I definitely feel most at home with other iron ladies. :strong:

Tikanique, your warning comes a bit too late for me. This extra mess I've gained means that my skinny jeans are too tight for me...and I worked so hard to get into a size 4. :tantrum: If I hadn't gotten some hand-me-down jeans in a bigger size from a family member, I'd be in real trouble. My problem now is that I can't even remember what it was that motivated me to lose all that weight in the first place. Gotta figure it out and quick...

tikanique
11-16-2005, 11:43 AM
Your welcome any time Ilene. I figured I was just beating Mel to the punch. Glad to hear yesterday was clean. Now just add today and then one more day and then so on and so forth, you get the picture.

Shannon, you should have TOLD me earlier that you were having issues. I would have fussed at you earlier too.

What I really should have done was fuss at me too. I didn't go up in jeans sizes, but I do believe that I swapped out some muscle for some squishy stuff. Time to get it back in order so back to clean eating, and sweat, Sweat, SWEAT!!!

Tiki.

ShannonM
11-16-2005, 11:55 AM
Shannon, you should have TOLD me earlier that you were having issues. I would have fussed at you earlier too.

Ma'am yes ma'am! :drill: I'll make sure to remember that next time.

Do you guys list your workouts in here, or just kind of give each other general checks and balances, or what?

ETA: What do you all consider "clean" eating? Do you use that term in the bodybuilding sense, or more generally to refer to cutting out the junk food?

Ilene
11-16-2005, 02:53 PM
Shannon -- You can start a weekly thread for your workouts if you wish, I think that's ok, right Mel? What I/we mean by clean eats is to eat as unprocessed as possible and as close to nature as possible, and I think that's what bobybuilders do to. Most of us here also eat 5-6 meals/day with a protein and carb portion, but honestly we are far from hard core :lol: ...

I had a good workout today I did 5k on the dreadmill because it was pouring out, I was sooo looking forward to running outside too :mad: .... I wasn't able to do anything else because some girl wouldn't shaddup when I past by her on my way to the exercise mats to do some abs, and by the time I finished up with her I HAD to leave.... Tonight I swim, it's the last session for spring but I registered again and we start Monday... I really like this class...

tikanique
11-16-2005, 04:06 PM
Sorry about the rain My Queen but good job on hitting the dreadmill. I know how much you hate that machine.

I took this AM off from the gym, but still did 30 minutes of cardio on my bike before work and now my legs are KILLING ME!!! I'm not sure if I should lay off the cardio tomorrow, do chest and tris only and then back to cardio on Friday. My legs are begging for mercy.

Shannon - For me, eating clean means no junk, no foods with high-fructose corn syrup added and no wheat products. Some days I'm clean, some days there is just a bit of dirt on my face, some days I'm dirty as a pig in a mud pile.

Also, a lot of people - and until lately me - post our workouts on the EXERCISE thread. I think I will go back to doing that.

Tiki

Tiki.

Mel
11-16-2005, 08:46 PM
Hi Shannon :wave: Welcome :)

OK, confession time: I too have had to push my "skinny" jeans to the back of the closet. I've been rediscovering my inner pig for the past few weeks :oink: and I really need to stop! But as Shannon siad, I'm having troubles remembering what motivated me. I have alternating days: clean, then hopeless, clean, then hopeless. Lately I feel more hopeless than anything else.

To make matters worse, I'm having some health issues which are causing very quick muscle fatigue, so even lifting is becoming a problem. This week I've gone to full-body workout 3 times a week and some sort of daily cardio, because I can't make it through my usual lifting split. Hopefully I'll get this resolved soon, because if my eating has gone to :censored:, I sure better be able to workout like a demon!

So Tiki, you can add me to your "fussing at" list :dizzy:

Teapot :wave: nice to see you! The turducken was...interesting :lol: It took a long time, and I had to sharped my knife about 10 times during the deboning ordeal. If it's as good as all the raving on the web, I'll do it again. It took about 4 hours, but I have a pretty good understanding of bird anatomy. It was hard at first to visualize it all from upside down. Practice on a chicken- they are cheaper and smaller, and if you make a mess of it you can just hack it up for dinner :D

Mel

Ilene
11-17-2005, 01:05 AM
Awwww Mel sorry to hear you're health is not up to par :hug: ... Must be the weather putting a damper on our enthusiasm... Did it help anyone when we had that challenge a couple of weeks ago? We could do that again starting Sunday or Monday next week, we just gotta get our act together before Christmas!!

4rabbit
11-17-2005, 08:17 AM
Hi LWL,

Shannon- welcome from me too!

Tiki, Ilene, Mel - What has gone into you guys??? Is this a sort of pre-holiday rut? Come on, I want to be like you when I'm grown up!!! You guys look like you have the "leaves-are-falling" dip! I remember from my CBT book that "Action comes BEFORE motivation" so just hang in here, try to live clean, and don't wait for the motivation to happen all of a sudden!.

Mel- Sorry to hear you have health issues. I hope you perk up soon!

Okay day sofar today. I went to work, that is always a way to keep my mind of things. The kids had dinner at XH yesterday evening, but my brother in law came around, which was nice of him. Latest howler of XH: I had lend him the small car because of the lousy weather around here, on the condition that NL or her stuff is not allowed in it or near it, and it must be returned when NL moves in with XH. So he asks if he occasionally can have the big car for long distance and transportation stuff. And I said sure, under the same conditions. And would you believe that XH had a problem with this, because it would mean that he could use outr car to assist NL to move in with him, nor would it allow him to take NL on holiday with our car. So I told him yes, you are exactly right, I do NOT allow that. Take it or leave it. I really really am amazed every single time at the nerve of him!!! Luckily I have my appointment with the lawyer set up, because I can see that I need some real watertight arrangements.

I'm off to do my stress clinic meditation CD for today.

Have a great day all,
rabbit

ellenuw
11-17-2005, 08:48 AM
... I remember from my CBT book that "Action comes BEFORE motivation" so just hang in here, try to live clean, and don't wait for the motivation to happen all of a sudden!.

rabbit

Boy, do I need to work on this one, too. It has been so hard for me to get back on track since my "possible to probably MS attack" (that is what 'they" are calling it)) mid-Sep and here it is Nov and I am still struggling. I am up 6 pounds and pissed, but apparently not motivated enough to stop putting junk in my trunk (as Fergie from The Black Eyed Peas would say). I am back to lifting 3x a week but it is hard to get back to cardio. That is shocking to me. I miss running and how good it made me feel, but don't have the stamina to go for an hour, let alone 2 or 3 like I used to. The marathon is 3 weeks away and I must say *blush* I am jealous of my friends who are doing it and wish I could, too. Then I beat myself up for thinking such mean things and realize that I stopped because of health issues, not because I wanted to. The fact that I am still plagued by fatigue tells me I need to deal with this better, but I don't quite know how to. I am tired of my leg tingling and wish it would stop. I am tired of having to plan my day around when I think I will be strong. I am tired of "dropping" on the bed for 45 min every afternoon and still falling asleep by 9:30pm. I don't mean to complain. I am thankful for a lot of things - mostly involving the important things like my family and friends (though the new Kate Bush CD rocks) And if one more person says "you can't have MS, you look so good", I think I am going to have to smack them. The truth is, it is up to me to get my butt to the treadmill (after I finish this, in fact) and just go for 30 min and walk for 30 or something like that. The motivation will come later - I had it before and I know I will get it back! I miss the "old" me and am very afraid that I will become the "older" 230 lb me if I let this get away from me much longer.

Oh, and I am still going to Las Vegas for the marathon. My niece is going to walk with me and our plan is to go 10 miles or 3 hours and then my Dh and cousin will pick us up so we call all be at the finish line to see our friends finish. See what I mean about how lucky I am to have my family and friends? :hug:

Rabbit - you are my hero through all this. I am so impressed how you are keeping your head and wits about you and standing up for yourself. I can do that, too. Thanks for sharing your heart with us.

LWL - I do read often, just not posting a lot, as it comes out like whining (see above). Thanks for being there!

tikanique
11-17-2005, 10:18 AM
Hi all,

Another day of clean eating under the belt - Go Tiki, Go Tiki! I didn't get my workout in this morning and I can only say it was cause of pure laziness. I woke up, my legs are still very sore and my right shoulder is hurting so somewhere in my sleepiness I decided that I didn't need to do chest for fear of aggravating the shoulder AND I didn't need to do cardio cause my legs are very sore. WRONG! So tonight I have a date with dear Billy in the living room. Chest will be done tomorrow morning and no more sleepy talk to myself.

Let's see, I'm making a list and checking it twice...I won't fuss today because so many are having health issues, but we need to remember that when our health is down, it is even more important to feed the body the right stuff to help it recover. Ellen, I can't believe you quoted a Black-Eyed Peas song! I HATE that song and although I like the group, I can't stand Fergie. She is a walking fashion nightmare and just looks so cheap.

Ilene, I don't do well with the posted challenges. Go figure. But if they help everyone else, then by all means set one up, and get yourselves in gear.

Tiki.

ShannonM
11-17-2005, 11:21 AM
Good morning ladies,

I had skipped a couple workouts earlier this week out of sheer laziness. It got bad because when I skip workouts I get depressed, and when I start working out again the depression goes away (or at least becomes manageable). But I'm happy to say I made up the missed ones yesterday and didn't eat any junk food. Now I need to work on letting go of the coffee for a while, because I find all the artificial sweetener I have to put in it can stall my weight loss. The plan for the weekend is not to eat any junk, but I am going to try out a low-carb fudge recipe I found and I may still treat myself to a little booze.

What kind of challenge did y'all have? I think I'd be up for one.

ETA: I've only been posting here a little while, but the fact that I did well yesterday is directly attributable to the inspiration I've gotten from reading your posts. So thanks for that. :)

4rabbit
11-18-2005, 05:44 AM
hi LWL,

Ellen - I can really relate to your issues with fatigue. I have anemia, so i am always a bit tired, but when I got burn-out last year I had reserves left whatever. Yes, i also had to plan my day around the 2 hours that I could afford to be active, and know that if I went over my physical limits I would have to pay for it later. The good thing is ... it really got better over time once I had adapted my lifestyle. Once you have pushed the energy eaters out of the window, once you have found a balance so that you are not living out of your energy savings "bank account", but actually can put someting into that account every day, you will find one day that hings have gotten better. Good food, moderate excercise all give energy.
Also I have read a lot in the past year about the mind-body relation, and for me it is crucial. I am glad for you that you have so much support. Family and friends matter a lot, it is good to knnow that you are not alone in hard times.

Tiki- You go girl !! keep up your appointments with Billy!

Again no excercise for me today. Eats are reasonably clean, this is also because I am not interested in eating since the XH issue. This has been going on for 6 weeks now, and I am losing weight like never before. I might get something positive from all this. Meg is my example. She managed to reshape her life at 46. And I am going to do just the same. My kids and myself will survive.

I'm off to my meditation CD. Last "body scan meditation" today. Tomorrow i start with the "yoga" CD.

Have a great day,
Rabbit

ShannonM
11-18-2005, 09:00 AM
Mornin' ladies,

I again resisted the urge to eat junk yesterday, and had a decent workout last night. Today & tonight is heavy lifting - going to up the weight on the squats because I suddenly realized I'm not pushing myself hard enough.

This has been going on for 6 weeks now, and I am losing weight like never before.

Rabbit - I mean this with no disrespect whatsoever, but...are you sure you're eating enough? The last thing you want is to start burning muscle for fuel, because whenever your eating habits do return to normal, the weight you lost will come back with a vengeance. When that happens, you won't have the requisite muscle mass to burn off the fat and it'll be even harder to lose. Again, this is not to belittle you at all, because I know you're going through a hard time. Hang in there, and please make sure you're eating enough. :hug:

tikanique
11-18-2005, 10:11 AM
Rabbit, I remember the first time X and I separated, I dropped 30 lbs in like a month. I was CUTE, but I lost a lot of muscle. Make sure you feed the machine, girl okay? Okay!

I did NOT resist the urge to eat junk last night and didn't exercise. Bad me, bad, BAD me. Tonight is another Kwando class with a different instructor so I'm going to try that. Hopefully this guy won' t be rhythm challenged.

Tiki.

ellenuw
11-18-2005, 12:16 PM
I am slowly gettign back on track. Did 90 min on the treadmill yesterday - 40 wogging and 50 walking. Today I did 20 on the bike and weights. Then food shopping. Clean eats yesterday and so far today. Feels good, though I am tired. going to take it easy until DH gets home, and not give myself a hard time about it.

rabbit - take care of yourself, girlfriend. Tiki - you were just what I needed at the right time. Maybe we should call you "Sarge"? Have a great weekend, all

WaterRat
11-18-2005, 03:31 PM
Morning LWL - A "drive-by" post here. My life has spun out of control this week, and I'm hoping to corral it by the weekend. For some reason all of a sudden I found myself way overcommitted in the evenings (some work related) and then all this stuff to get done at work - funny how "they" expect that in order to give you a paycheck. :lol: I have not exercised since Monday, but I have managed to keep my eating pretty clean - a real plus for me!

Went back to the doc yesterday (after my colonoscopy last Fri) and learned that the 3 polyps he removed were benign! :D The 2 from 3 years ago had been pre-cancerous, so this is very good news!

Hi Ellen - Nice to see you! Glad to hear you're pacing yourself. My cousin's wife and a girl I used to work with both had MS and had good success with very lf diets. (That's information you can do whatever you want with btw!)

Rabbit - Tiki is right - you need to eat, and eat well, so you don't lose that muscle you worked so hard on. Glad to hear you're talking to the lawyer.

Tiki - sounds like the Sarge needs to talk to herself girl! :rofl:

Okay, gotta run, it's a circus here.

4rabbit
11-19-2005, 05:17 AM
Hi LWL,

Pat- CONGRATULATIONS on the medical results !! i can imagine that you must feel so relieved! You must be on top of the world! Wave to us below!

Shannon, Tiki, Ellen, Pat - Thanks for the concern about the eating. I am eating reasonabely clean and according to my scale my bodyfat% is dropping. Part of this is that I feel lousy if I eat 'bad" food: I get stomach aches from too much fat, and I get dead tired from white sugar and white flour. So I eat yoghurt and orange juice mixed with bran, soy crunchies and brewers yeast for breakfast; yoghurt & orange juice with soy protein powder for lunch and sometimes for morning snack, and I have some fruit or some crackers with cheese or salami as mid afternoon snack. But you are all right in that I should take up the excercise thing again!!

Quiet morning overhere. I have been doing some mindwork to overcome the mental dip that I had this week, and I plan to keep this up the next week if needed. We WILL survive this. Tiki, I'm so glad of your support. You and your kids apparently survived a break up, it can be done, and I will do it.

Ellen , Pat - take care and don't overdo it on the stress issues!!

Have a great day,
Rabbit

WaterRat
11-21-2005, 02:43 PM
Hi Rabbit :wave:

Had a great weekend, doing some things for ME instead of all chores. :lol: Eating was good until last night when we went to a friend's house for dinner. Too much wine = too much food. An equation I need to be reminded of from time to time. :shrug: Today is good so far, and I'm ready to go to the gym right from work.