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11-01-2005, 12:23 AM
Ok ladies new month and new goals. As always anyone is free to join our active supportive group!

11-01-2005, 09:40 AM
congratulations on meeting your goal kayelle! that is awesome!
melissa, hugs to you about logan and kate. what a relief the baby is in a safe place now. i totally feel you about the bail. wtg on the candy. i wish i could say the same about myself. i had five pieces (we bought the cheap tiny bulk stuff, so not too bad.) the real killer was the ice cream dh bought. he has taken a liking to this ice cream that has 350 calories per half cup. holy cow!! but it's really, really good (unfortuantly for my waistline, i know this from experience. grrr.)
well, i tell myself that eating this tofu shirataki instead of rice all the time makes up for it. i guess the scale will be the judge of that. oh well, as scarlett said. bring it, november!

11-01-2005, 11:00 AM
Well, went to the doc yesterday. Most of the news was good news. The best was that the test that shows diabetes came back normal, if it comes back normal after 3 more months, she thinks that maybe the test another doc did that said I was diabetic might have been wrong!!!! I am keeping my fingers crossed, that would be a huge burden off my mind. The rest of my labs were all back to normal except for my cholesterol. The bad news was I gained back 5 pounds. :mad: I really wasn't surprised after the October I had. Oh well, new month, new day!!!
Does anyone know where Melra is??? I miss reading her posts.
Melissa, so sorry to hear about your daughter. I'm glad you got her son out of that situation. I know he will thrive at your house with all the love that you show. :grouphug: I know that we are scattered all over the country but I know everyone here has you in their thoughts and prayers. Have a great November everyone, it's birthday month for me, actually falls on Thanksgiving day this year, so that will be a doubly tough day as my Mom always makes me a chocolate cheesecake for my bitrhday :devil:
Have a good week everyone.


11-01-2005, 11:02 AM
Good morning ladies! Well I had 0 candy and really hardly got to eat yesterday and that darn scale still hasn't gone down. Logan slept pretty good as soon as I brought him into bed with me. He hates for me to be out of his sight. Today is going to be interesting. 3yr old 2 yr old and 5 mo-man oh man. Here I thought getting in the shower was interesting before. Well I can do this. Other grandma just emailed me and she is bringing a portable crib and some clothes for Logan so I think I will get Logan either some kind of excersaucer or highchair. He likes to see what is going on and I can feed him in it too. Man I think I am getting too old for this stuff ya know? I am feeling like the old woman who lived in a shoe. 4 kids and no sex. Of course I didn't have to prego and go through labor either. Ok off to be busy as usual here. New month new beginnings and lets get going!

11-01-2005, 11:47 AM
Melissa-I am glad Logan is finally safe with you. I do think Kate should find her own way out of her own mess. It might be the only way for her. I regret the number of times I helped my grown up kids out of their mistakes and they learned nothing.

Melra is missing!!

Let's all make this new month a good one.

11-01-2005, 02:28 PM
Yes Melra is missing! I am already ready for a nap! Kate has started calling the family for bail money but no one is giving it to her. She wanted me to go to her drug house and see if her loser boyfriend would bail her out. Funny how she has bailed him out at least twice and now she is in jail and he is nowhere to be found. Well I am opening a new chapter in my life here and I may be a bit quiet for a few days as I try to get a new rhythm going here. I am so out of small baby mode. If you don't see me, I really am here just getting everyone used to each other here.

11-01-2005, 04:21 PM
Melissa, you are way stronger than I am, because I have been into the candy a little. Getting lots of exercise as well, so hopefully I'll just balance out today. But no more. I hid it away and hopefully we can all just forget about it and let it all rot.

Misty, can you tell your mom you don't want the cheesecake this year? Tell her to create you something equally yummy that is healthy. She might be willing to do something different if she sees that you really are making changes and want to keep to it. Or, if there is a way to change ingredients a bit to slim it down some, that might work as well.

Melrrrrraaaaaa where are youuuuuuu? There's no giving up in our group, come back!!!!!!


11-01-2005, 05:02 PM
I can't believe it's November already! It's going to take some serious willpower to get through the next couple of months ladies. Seems like this time of year there are a million and one reasons to overeat...holidays, long boring winter nights, baking just to warm up the house, you name it and you can find a reason to chow down. Just remember that there are just as many reasons to stay on target! Stay on track everyone...we've come to far to start going backwards now!

Melissa ~ You're in my thoughts and prayers...I can't imagine how difficult this is for you. Hang in there and stay're doing the right thing.

Ice Princess
11-01-2005, 05:37 PM
:cheer: Yah a new month, a new goal and a new me. I am moving this weekend so I have lots to pack and get done. I gave in to the ex for sex :nono: have to rember to say that to myself. Oh well life goes on, I know it is safe and good, so better than someone else that I don't know where theve been or what they got, for now anyways. I will have to move on and stick to my guns and say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Hopfully moving will make it easier, cause I'm movin to the counrty. I got geared to income housing which is great, I have a some what good job but I also have three kids. I am getting very excited to a new chapter in my life.

My goal this month will be Curves 3 X's a week and try for a 10 workouts weather it be videos, walks or on the ball with the tubing, 10 of something. I figure the moving will be two days of moving ( physical movin so that should count for somthin, not sure what it should count for, mabe just bonus exercise)

Well take care, keep up the good work and yah new month, new goals and new us's, or smaller us's. :goodluck:

11-01-2005, 06:47 PM
Congrats Kayelle on reaching goal! What an inspiration you are!!!!! :dance:

Melissa you are a saint. I hope everything goes well with little Logan and you are all settling in together. I am sorry your daughter is in the situation she is in. Hopefully this will smarten her up to get some help.

I (unfortunately) did not stay away from the candy yesterday - but have today. I thin it was a brief moment of weakness!

I am pretty much on plan and have been exercising. I am setting my goal for November lower - 2 lb loss. I am not going to kid myself - Nov & Dec are my worst months! ;)

New month and new goals! Good Luck to all!!!

11-01-2005, 10:15 PM
Theresa - throw the candy out. Hiding it is no good cause it will call to you. Before you throw it out, put dishwashing soap on it so it can't be retreived.
Melissa- I hope you sleep tonight. Logan sounds like he has been waiting for you to come and get him out of crazyland. - Sweet little boy.

We are traveling again on Friday for 9 days - 4 days in Paris to attend a trade show, and then 4 days to ourselves. We will probably drive South and visit a friend. My goal is to do my best to stay OP, but if I go over my 1200 calories, it's ok cause it's really hard when we are out especially if there are dinners with our customers and menus that I can't totally figure out and great food to try. My French was never very good and now it's also rusty. So I guess my goal is to not gain at all and possibly lose a bit cause we will be very active. I have a book of walking tours in Paris
I have to look nice on this trip. No sweats or big shirts so tomorrow I have to go thru everything I own and hope to be able to put together some nice looking stuff. No sneakers either. French women really do look good and I don't want to look like a dork. I wish I could just open a closet and pull out fabulous size 8 things and go off happy. I ate myself into size 16 and there are consequences. I did get a good haircut and color last week, so that part of me looks fine.

My dog is an old guy and I don't want to put him in a kennel, so luckily a friend will stay in the house so that's one less worry. But now I have to clean the house cause he will be here and I don't want him to think I am a slob. That's ok cause it's nice to come home from a trip to a clean house.

11-01-2005, 10:33 PM
(((Hugs))) Melissa- you are so strong cause i would have been into the candy with all that going on. Bless you for being so caring. it's so hard to not help our older kids when they get into trouble. maybe this will scare her straight. and I would certainly think the baby is better off with you and out of an enviroment that was not healthy.
I had a minor stress compared to everyone elses stress today and i didn't eat candy but i ate two handfuls of goldfish- and then i thought how stupid can i get like 2 handfuls of goldfish can fix what is wrong??? ( stupid electric company changed due dates and didn't tell anyone and we got a surprise pay now or get shut off bill today. Normally our bill is due the 18th of every month and i have bill pay But nooo they changed everything -oh well I will come up with the $$ somehow and not panic. I mean my eating bad will not make the electric bill go away)
YAY! :cheer: to everone making goals- I am exercising. I am soo happy Oct. is over. I got up at 6 and did 40 minutes of bike riding and aerobics. Oh did I have rubber legs :lol: I am not going to ALLOW gravy, mashed potatoes, pumpkin pie etc.. to rule my November and I will NOT sabatoge my weight loss just because it's a holiday.
Theresa- NO CANDY NO CANDY NO CANDY.... Keep repeating- same goes for everyone else ;)
:) Laura- France?? Wow! what was the name of that book?? french women don't get fat?? there was a big write up on it recently.
Hmmmm Maybe we should have a Melra search?? I hope all is ok with her?? we seem to lose people all the time. :(
Good job all and we are all so awesome :encore:

11-02-2005, 12:05 AM
I feel sick to my tummy tonight :( I didn't eat near enough candy to make this hurt, but who knows since I haven't had anything sweet like that in two months :?: Hubby said maybe I'm pregnant but I know it's not that kind of feeling, this is a ate wrong feeling, though other then the little bit of candy I was OP today and yesterday. Who knows, hopefully the stomach virus is not going to pay us a visit.

Laura, I am so jealous of you...PARIS!!! Have tons of fun and don't worry about the scale while you're there, just enjoy the trip and I bet you'll come out okay.

I know I wanted to say something to a few other people, but if I don't go to bed i might throw up here :( but I did get in 10 miles today, so at least that's a good start to Nov.


11-02-2005, 09:09 AM
have fun in paris laura! the walking tours sound like they will be awesome.
melra, where are you???
sandy, what is it with these companies and their weird due dates? people should be able to count on their due dates for planning their money. we had a credit card that always due on a different day every month. i think it was deliberate so people would forget and they could charge their crazy expensive late fee all the time. at least that is over with. sheesh.
i had a little candy today but no ice cream at least. next time i am going to insist on the light stuff because i can't resist ice cream if we have it and 170 calories is ok but not 350. i need to get that scale moving if i want to meet my mini-goal by dec. 19. not much time left.

11-02-2005, 10:46 AM
Hello everyone! Well I did dip into the candy by late afternoon but didn't go overboard. Still trying to find a rhythm here. I think it will go a bit better when I get Logan an excersaucer. He loves to stand up and see what is going on so maybe I can get some stuff done around here. All I managed was to get Halloween put away and the dishes and pick up toys a bit. Man I forgot how much babies are work! Love him to pieces though. He has a really nice disposition and he adores Joshua. Josh walks in the room and Logan lights up. I guess Kate was released either yesterday or it will be today. Apparently her loser boyfriend was supposed to be taking care of Logan and what a fine job he did too. The Enrique (caseworker) is going to court this morning to petition that Logan stay here and then he is supposed to call me and let me know what is going on and Kate is not supposed to be anywhere near here. Little guy got me up at 530 this morning, had a diaper change and some bottle and he is crashed back out but I am still awake now lol. I will be glad when Friday is here and his crib and some clothes. He wears the same size as Amanda who is 2 and while he is a handsome fella, pink really isn't his color. I take him to the doctor tomorrow morning for a checkup. He has not been to the doctor since he was born! No excuse either as Kate had medical coupons for him. So now I go through the joy of shots ect for him. I am going to get the menu thing going here again too. I wasn't too bad yesterdy other than the few pieces of candy but not as precise as I like to be either. I have been basically eating while standing and doing other things too. I know it will be fine as things settle down and we get into a routine ect here. Just pray that God gets me a bigger car. I hate to move Odessa to the front seat so I can get the other two carseats in the back. I am going to need to get a wrist attachment thing too so she can walk beside me while the other two are in the stroller. This should prove to be interesting to say the least. Ok I am going to try and do a couple things before kids start waking up here. TTFN!

11-02-2005, 03:36 PM
Melissa, I had the candy bug as well but didn't overdo it...scale is still in place. I am over it today, not even tempted anymore, just don't want it. Kids had their pick and I put it back up and haven't thought about it again (until now). I am OP and feeling good again.


11-02-2005, 03:47 PM
All that is left here is suckers so I am good. Mom is coming shortly so I can go to the wic office and get formula for Logan. He really isn't into food at all just his bottle. He is so much better today and I haven't had to lug him nearly like I did yesterday. Still waiting to hear back from the caseworker about what is going on. I just pray he is able to stay with me. I am already so attached to him. It is one of the reasons I just couldn't do foster care-I could never let the kids go once I had them. I think we will be settled in and in a routine here soon and today I am actually below what I had planned out for food but the kitchen is mopped and the livingroom is vacuumed and I am just getting ready to clean Batty's cage. I just hate all the waiting to see what is going to happen and will feel better when I have paperwork stating he is mine.

11-02-2005, 04:18 PM
wtg everyone on taking it easy on the candy. all our candy is gone so at least that is over with.
i really need to start drinking more water. i realized yesterday that i have been been drinking way too much coffee and soda. normally i am good about water but these days i haven't been getting it in.
well, i hope everyone has a terrific op day today!

11-02-2005, 06:02 PM
Cadwell, back on the water girl! I allow myself to have other drinks only afer my water for the day is done. I think that is actually what upset my stomach last night. I had 2 glasses of caffeine free/calorie free soda and then I felt miserable. I dont know if it's soda in general now or just that kind :?: I am not usually big on drinking that stuff, so maybe my body has just turned against it altogether.

Melissa, I so hope you get to keep Logan, for his sake and yours. If he goes back you will do nothing but worry and I'm sure if he could talk he'd want to stay..though I am sure he is so confused as well. Let us know please, I'll be thinking of you both.


11-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Melissa sending hugs and prayers your way. I hope this will smack your daughter upside her head and she'll shape up. I hope you get to keep Logan- and I hope all gets worked out. I am sure the case worker will see you are best for that baby.

YAY! on the candy restraint. I have thought about the chocolate and even drooled over it But I am heading for a goal for Christmas and I refuse to allow a piece of goo side step me from my plans. Ok off my :soap: now- I am just excited and ready to just do this.

My one boss grabs Mcdonalds every a.m. and the other grabs dunkin "d-word" or Chick fil a every a.m. and they are dring me nuts. I don't crave that stuff anymore - it just smells greasy to me & makes me feel icky . Then they say i am smug by eating my apple or banana at break time and not junk food- I say they feel guilty cause they both could stand to drop 100 lbs .
I am not smug just determined :strong:
:p I did want to lick the chocolate coating off the boston Creme "D word" today.)

Candace drink your H2O it's good for you! :cheer: theresa back on goal ! Kristen - i agree with you- scary to make big goals around the holidays. I always do stupid stuff like bake 300 different kinds of cookies around Christmas -I feel i have to feed people- I have always thought Food+ cooking + feeding people = happiness. That is changing too- Food + eating no longer = love. But I don't even like cookies- I am not a cookie nibbler-- now cake -:nono: I can't be around cake.
Ice- good for you I hope the move goes easy. :drill: just say NO to the ex thats why he's an ex! Kayelle- You are major inspiration !!Thank you for your support!
Have a great night all and you all are great! :bravo:

P.S. I have to warn ya'll the world may be coming to an end - I have gotten up at 6 a.m. for 2 days in a row and EXERCISED for 40 minutes and plan on getting up tomorrow to keep it up. I am on a roll and it takes 21 days to form a habit so 19 days to go and yeah I am sore But I am gonna keep on going!

11-03-2005, 08:16 PM
I have got to get my rhythm back. I haven't been eating that great the last few days. I get so busy there isn't time so when I do, I eat too much now. I know it will settle down here. I already have got him to sleep without being held. I took him to the dr. today. He is 17lbs 15oz and 27 1/2 inches long. His general health is good and he is only a little behind developmentally. She told me not to worry about it and get some floor time in with him which I had already started doing. He got 5 shots today and I have to take him in for the next two months for more shots. He has been sleeping for about 3 hours now-just broke my heart. Other grandma is coming from Bremerton tomorrow morning and friends of the family went to their church and got some things for logan too. Just warms my heart everything people have been doing to help me out. I got his WIC yesterday too so now he is good on formula also. Keep praying here for me and us!

11-03-2005, 09:49 PM
Melissa-You are doing so good. Logan sounds like a big boy. My youngest weighed 17 lbs when we adopted him at one year old and now is a gorgeous, strong, well built athlete.Logan is where he belongs now, with you, and I'm sure he will do just fine.

We are leaving tomorrow for 9 days. DH never goes anywhere without his portable computer, so I will have access to this site which will keep me grounded with my goals in mind. My goal for the trip is to just do the best I can, and not binge in anyway and not gain any weight, and possibly lose. And we will be walking alot. I bought fabulous silver and pink Nike sneakers with springs in the soles. I don't care if I look like a dork to the Parisians. My sneakers are so comfortable that I will be able to walk all over Paris. I'm am never going to look like a skinny French woman, so I might as well wear jeans and sneakers and a leather jacket and look like New York.

11-03-2005, 09:52 PM
Melissa I do hope you get into a routine soon- It takes time and it seems you are doing wonders for the little guy already. ((Hugs ))) being sent your way. I continue to hope all goes well and things calm down for you- I am in Awe of you and what you are doing.

I tried the new Bisquick tonight it's called heart smart Bisquick, I made chicken and dumplings and saved tons of calories and fat from the regular bisquick.
I have come to the conclusion that eating only the "basics or real foods" is not some thing that can be done long term so I am trying to make changes in the way i prepare foods. I mean I can't always eat tuna and cottage cheese for lunch- and always have available the "Right" foods to eat. I am thinking that certain foods I can't touch as they are trigger foods for me but other foods can be eaten in moderation- like the chicken and dumplings. I had a serving size and ate green beans and carrots so I had a veggie too.

I exercised again today- well the world may not come to an end but I am happy with myself :carrot: tomorrow Jocie and I are going to walk the riverwalk after school- She can ride her scooter and i can walk- we are finally getting into the low 80's here in the afternoon so walking isn't as bad now.
Have a good night all ...

11-03-2005, 09:53 PM
Laura- have a great time ! Enjoy France and enjoy yourself!

11-03-2005, 09:54 PM
Melissa, you are doing so wonderful :grouphug: do you know if you get to keep him yet?

I ordered Carmen Electra's workout dvds today :carrot: actually, hubby ordered them :lol: got the 5 dvd set and I am planning on giving him a nice show come Valentine's Day ;) I have a friend who told me they are really fun to do, even if you never use the "skills." Also, my mom is ordering me a set of Winsor Pilates dvds for Christmas and she's giving them to me on Thanksgiving, so I'll have lots of new workouts to get me through the winter. I LOVE LOVE pilates, but only have the Crunch dvd with three 10 minute workouts. I am ready to progress to something more extensive, I love the way it changes the shape of my body in a way cardio and weights doesn't do.

Found out I don't care for walmart brand nonfat yogurt, it's lumpy :barf: Food Lion brand is so smooth and creamy, I"ll stick with that.

Sandi, I'm glad you're back on track. I was OP today, even with eating out at a buffet. I filled my plate half with brussel sprouts first thing, then the rest with this chicken I love, but I didn't put all the rice under it as I used to, just the chicken. I split a small chocolate brownie with my daughter, but didn't feel guilty at all. It was a small treat, a very small piece and I didn't have any desire to get more. I left satisfied and pleasantly full, not overstuffed and ready to puke. Felt good to be in control.


11-03-2005, 11:30 PM
Hi All, Good to see everyone doing so well, and making new goals for the month!! We are still in the middle of moving so I don't have much time but I had to stop in! Did anyone PM Melra to tell her to go to this new thread? It took a few minutes for me to figure out why there were no postings after Theresas on 11/01. Finally it dawned on me to look for a new thread :dizzy: Might want to let Melra know?
I have been eating like crud this whole week and don't even want to get on the scale. My weigh/measure at Curves is Sat, so we shall see. Tomorrow will be the first time I can make it there this week :( we have just been so busy!
Melissa, I hope you got good news on Logan! He sounds adorable and he deserves his wonderful grandma! We were going to come up around Thanksgiving but now Grace(my dd) has decided she is going to Texas for the month. I told her the weather will be too bad after that for us to drive up, so I don't think I will get to meet you until Spring :( But we will both be MUCH slimmer by then won't we?? :lol:
Well, it's been a long day and I'm not finished yet, so I'm gonna get out of here! Hope everyone has a great Friday and weekend!!


11-03-2005, 11:38 PM
Kathy, we all have setbacks for one reason or another, that is life! Get settled and then you can get back on track. I'm sure all the moving is worth some great exercise, so your muscle tone must be improving some at least :strong:

I got 8 miles in tonight and feel about my WI in the AM. But we'll see, everytime I get my hope up I plateau :(


11-04-2005, 11:09 PM
Where is everyone???? Hope to see everyone around soon.


11-05-2005, 02:02 PM
sandy, the new bisquick sounds really good. i hadn't heard anything about it. how many calories are in it?
hope you are having fun on your your trip laura!
melissa, i am glad everything with logan is going well right now. i'll be praying about your situation. hopefully all concerned will realize he is better off and safer with you.
i am excited about progressing on my november goal. i am down two more pounds, yay! tomorrow is my camping trip, so i am gearing up to stay op sun and mon. i bought some low-cal hot dogs, black beans, and broccoli, so dinner is pretty much set. breakfast is pancakes, eggs, and bacon, but with some moderation, that won't be bad either. thank goodness for sf syrup! only challenge now is smores :devil:

11-05-2005, 02:05 PM
You don't need the smores, Cadwell! If you absolutely must have it, try to wait until all the stuff is almost gone and have the very last one, so it's impossible to grab another. Congrats on the pounds.


11-05-2005, 02:23 PM
Well hello everyone. Well I am up a few pounds from eating crappy this week. At least Logan is beginning to get the schedule I have put him on so things should start settling down here a bit. I got a crib, some clothes, carseat, and a coat for him yesterday and the girls other grandma fell in love with him too. I still haven't heard anything at all from cps so I guess no news is good news? I just in all good conscience let him go back to my daughter. I have laundry out the wazoo! I did like 4 loads yesterday and am on the third one for today but I got my room all clean and bedding changed and the girls room is done too. I have to say I am a little afraid of all this and doing it all on my own. I am scared I will gain my weight back and that I won't be able to keep the house up and fill all the needs for all the kids. I eat when I am scared so it is going to be a challenge for me.

Jealous of all you going on trips! I love to travel but the farthest I get is the grocery store LOL. Well I am off to clean the bathroom before I have to get the lunch wagon going here for the kids but I will try to check in later too. Thank you for all the hugs and prayers-I am greedy! I will take them all.

11-05-2005, 05:38 PM
Melissa you really are a saint with everything you do for those kids. They are so lucky to have you. I know from my job that lots and lots of kids aren't so lucky. Bless you for being there for them and taking such good care of them. Don't worry about those few pounds that you gained this week, you are just getting used to a new routine and you have so much going on right now. Just pick yourself up and get back into it. You can do it. You are doing so much for others but the weight loss is something that you can do for YOU. Just keep in mind what an awesome person you are and remember that you deserve to be as healthy as you possibly can be. Hang in are an awesome person!

Congrats, Cadwell, on your loss!! You are doing awesome! Have fun on the camping trip! Sounds like you are ready to have fun and eat healthy, too!

Whoohoo sandisuze on the exercise!! Doesn't it just make you feel great??

Theresa be sure and let us know how you like the DVD's when you get them. I am always on the lookout for a fun workout.

Everybody else...congrats on any success you may have had recently, no matter how small, those successes add up. And for those of you who may have "fallen off"...just get right back on. No giving up! November & December are tough months but we can all get through them!!!

I am doing good. My son's football season is over for the year so things have slowed down a bit here for a while at least. Tonight is a birthday party for my husband's nephew and my in-laws will be there and the situation with them has gotten even worse so I am a little stressed about that. At least I have some great new jeans to wear! It's weird how much a little thing like that can make me feel so much better about going to this party. Most of my jeans were getting too big and I've been trying not to buy anything new because I've already bought so many new clothes this year, and even with sticking to clearance sales, it does add up. But I have to say my hubby is really a sweetie...yesterday he went during his lunch hour to try to find me some long length 4's, and he actually found a pair! He took me after work to try them on and I don't think I've ever put on a pair of jeans that fit so perfect. This just happened at a time when I really needed it to. So tonight I am going to do the whole bit, hair, make-up, my favorite top and shoes, and my brand new perfect jeans! I know that's not gonna make my MIL treat me any better...but at least I'll know I look good! Maybe I'll have my husband snap a few pictures for "before & after" photos. I haven't had a picture taken since I reached my goal Monday.

I stepped on the scale again today to make sure I hadn't gained anything and I'm down another 1.5. I find that really surprising because I've been eating a couple hundred calories more per day. I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly how much I should be eating. I eat enough to not feel hungry and it doesn't seem right to keep eating when I'm full.

11-05-2005, 08:00 PM
My mom basically said the same thing this morning when I talked to her and I am back OP today. It would be easier if the girls would quit waking logan from his naps and he is cutting teeth too. Dr. said she could see them broke through but without my glasses, I see nothing! I have even more incentive now to lose as now I have 4 kids who are looking to me to keep them safe happy and warm. I always said I wanted 5 kids but I thought that a hubby would come along with the kids lol. I know it is just a matter of getting all my ducks in a row with my new addition. I was feeling guilty because I haven't decorated for Thanksgiving! Can you believe that? Man I think I am just way too hard on myself sometimes but it will come together.


11-05-2005, 10:44 PM
I am depressed and getting down on myself gals. I'm not going to make the Thanksgiving goal which throws off my goal of being under 200 by my birthday in Feb. I haven't lost enough for my family to notice when I go to Ohio in just a couple weeks. I actually thought about buying some laxatives and diet pills tonight because I know if I go back to that I will be down at least 20 lbs. by Thanksgiving. But, I know that is not my answer. I would get caught up in that again and it is NOT something I would want my kids to ever see, and there's no way they wouldn't notice the change in me. I was miserable when I was doing that. Problem is, I feel like I have failed and I'm going to fail all my goals and there is no hope. I would give up if it weren't for you guys, but I am seriously depressed that I have only lost 12 pounds in 4 months :cry:

I am going to be really focusing the next 2 weeks, I think this is finally my wake up call that I need to speed this up a bit, and in the right way. I've been recording every bite I eat the last couple days and I realize I am slipping in extra calories by nibbling while cooking, dipping into the halloween candy 2 days, and yesterday I actually ate FIVE sugar cookies, I would have thought it wasn't that many had I not written it down. So, I am just having little treats and it's costing me on the scale.

But, I have to give myself credit because I have come a long way and made some lifelong changes. I used to binge at night, eating entire meals after the kids went to bed, and now I don't eat at night AT ALL, ever. That was my worst fattening habit and I have broken it. I haven't had ice cream in over 2 months and that is a miracle, I used to eat half a carton easily in one night. I haven't bought the "d" word or other pasteries in just as long, so the snacking is way less than it used to be. I have made progress, but it's just not enough.

I know, I know, those are great improvements and I should be proud but I'm just not. I'm disappointed in myself and it hurts. I have to get the nibbling under control and I think the scale will start going down.

When I was pregnant with my first child, all 3 of my sisters were pregnant as well. We had 4 new babies enter the family in a period of 2 months!!! Now, my older sister had a horrible miscarriage last month, and today I was informed my half-sister is now 4 weeks preg. My hubby came home and said I am officiall "cut off" because he's not going through another baby :lol: he thinks it's going to wind up hitting us all again, but really I don't see how something that strange can happen again.

Melissa, we never decorate for Thanksgiving, but Christmas is another story. Don't worry about decorations, worry about those have so much to worry about, do not stress the small stuff. You'll get back OP, and we'll be here to cheer when you do. I cannot imagine your laundry with all those kids! Mine is constant and horrendous and I only have 2...well, hubby counts as 3 :lol:

KayElle, definitely take an at goal picture and hang it up somewhere, you are so amazing. I hope the party went okay and you come out in one piece emotionally.


11-06-2005, 06:48 AM
hang in there theresa. it's great that you're recording your food. that's what really helps me. pretty soon everyone will notice you and you won't have to do anything extreme.
congrats on the jeans kayelle! i bet 4 long is hard to find. long any size just about.
as for me, i am so totally on cloud nine! i was at old navy today to get some cords for dh when i was like, what the heck, and i decided to try on some size 8 jeans. imagine my shock when they fit! omg! i don't remember the last time i wore a single digit size,i was that young! yay! i was so pleased with myself i took a picture to add to my progress photo collection. now i have four (same t-shirt, but different jeans out of necessity). hopefully when i am at my goal the shirt will still fit because i love it. two more pics i think and i will complete my collection (140 and 125).

11-06-2005, 10:47 AM
Hey everyone.. I am going to try and catch up with everyone( TRY is the key word here)

Theresa: :nono: Don't get down- Look how far you have come! Look at all the new habits and lifestyle you now have. writing down everthing is a great idea- I found a really great food diary for free download on microsoft office .com ( go to templates) and printed out a bunch and then made a notebook and even though i like fitday i find i have a hard time getting on the computer to list everything and now that 3fc's has the new food data base it's easier to just jot what you are eating. You keep going girl- don't you give up :cheer: sending hugs your way too :grouphug:
Melissa- oh my word- i would be lost... You are so brave and don't get scared. take it one day at a time and as far as Thanksgiving decorations?? keep the girls busy while Logan is sleeping and try Dltk- for printable Turkey day decorations add a glue stick and Ta-Da !!! decorations and a baby that can nap all at the same time-
Candace- Ohh camping so much fun- I am jealous ;) and YAY! on old Navy. I so want to be able to shop at places i can't shop at right now. I'll get back to you on the bisquick - i just know it has NO trans fat and low fat - I tossed the box so hubby wouldn't see it was lofat.
I wonder if Laura is having a great time?? I hope so.
:wave: to everyone else..
I am now in offical busy status :lol: I am helping with the Christams Cantata and we had costume fittings last night, stage planning & props etc.. I love to help BUT getting teenagers to cooperate on being Mary and Joseph instead of blowing kisses is not easy. plus we have so many special events coming up -it takes me so long to design and format printables etc. then there are holiday dinners etc.. Out comes my day planner!! Today is the first day i have not exercised. I am gonna take Sundays off as they are very busy and i feel i need a day of rest :D
We can do this ! :bravo:

11-06-2005, 01:57 PM
We can hold each other up Theresa-I think I got let down because when I first started, I was losing like crazy and now it is over a month and I am basically staying from 202-206 depending and it is really frustrating. The one thing I am trying to focus on is how I feel compared to what the scale is and it is no easy fete! When I eat right, I have more energy, don't have the sick tummies, and in general just feel like I can take on the world so try and focus on how you feel. My philosophy is eventually my body is going to have follow what I am doing and it will show up eventually. Stay away from the laxatives and things! That is no way to treat your body EVER! You may as well feed yourself arsenic daily and we all know that isn't something a person would do. Just post post post and I am here for you!

11-06-2005, 05:31 PM
Thanks for all the support gals, you are my lifeline to sanity right now. I skipped breakfast this AM because I just didn't want to eat, felt like if I started I might not stop. Then MIL showed up unexpected and refused to even come in the house because I was here. What did she think? This is my house, of course I'm here...and she knew it, she's just trying to start trouble because we've stayed away from her and hubby even hasn't been talking to her she brought the trouble here. I ended up grabbing potato chips, which hubby brought home to snack on. He walked in and said "Oh, what happended to Mrs. Diet?" He was joking, but I remember that fight we had and his lack of confidence in me, and all the things he said against me losing weight. I think he was happy to see me into the chips because it was a sign he would be right and I would quit and gain it all back, plus more.

So, I put them down and I am determined to stay out of them. I told him if he doesn't take it with him to work tonight, I'm trashing both bags.

I started thinking about Thanskgiving today and immediately wanted to start eating, and I realized that is what is bothering me, that's why I keep getting the cookies and candy! I am worrying over whether my family will notice or not and just the thought of special attention or comments makes me nervous, so I am sabotaging myself without knowing it. The closer Thanksgiving gets, the more I just can't keep the diet straight. But I know what's going on now. I can't focus on what others will say or think, the focus is on how I feel and the little changes that I notice. I am fogetting about others, that doesn't matter. If they comment on it there's nothing I can do, but that is NO reason to sabotage my progress.

Hubby keeps joking that I am just emotional because I'm prego again, but I know I'm not. I kept going back to bed this AM,didn't wanna get up, and then this afternoon was crying for no reason at all. that does remind me of being prego, but I just know I'm not. I'm just upset with myself for the sabotage and feeling all mixed up...happy for the progress I have made but mad it hasn't equaled more of a weight loss. *sigh* I will get over it and move forward I know that...I AM NOT GIVING UP.

Cadwell, woohoo on the size 8 :cp:

Melissa, when I start to complain about the house being trashed by the kids or their whining I think of you and it immediately puts me in my place. I have nothing compared to your stress right now, and I know you are scared, that is understandable. But, once you get into a groove and see that it's going to be okay I think that will fade off. You are a saint, and all this will come back to you one day, just remember that! One way or another, all your good work for these kids will come back to you ten fold.

Sandi, you sound busy yourself there, don't stress out too much. All those things are supposed to be fun, right?


11-06-2005, 08:24 PM
It sounds like it is nerves to me too Theresa but you know what? They are just going to be thrilled to see you and they love you! The cousin I saw when I took Logan in hasn't seen me since August and it took me a whole day to realize she didn't say anything about the weight I had lost. I am ok with it though I think LOL. It all just goes back to what I said before. Focus on how you feel and the changes you notice yourself. The rest will fall into place.

I got a highchair and excersaucer through freecycle today! I had just asked for a highchair and when they emailed me, asked what else I needed. They didn't have jammies but they did have the saucer so I am going to get them all cleaned up after I post. I just bought him some jammies from ebay. I got 5 pair for 7 bux and they are mint condition. I felt that was a great deal, especially since it meant I didn't have to haul the kids out anywhere. After the first of the year, I will get him a real crib and just put him in with the girls. There is plenty of room to line up all three cribs/toddler bed in there since it is a nice sized room. There is just too big of a gap for him to ever share a room with Josh and I will worry about other things later when they are getting bigger.

Well I am off to clean more stuff. Like I didn't already have enough LOL

11-06-2005, 09:35 PM
Melissa, glad you got what you needed for Logan. I am about to give up on freecycle myself. I have given away TONS of stuff, I mean TONS, and yet have never gotten anything back. I put in for things I want, but have never gotten chosen for anything :( Tonight I put in for an exercise bike someone was giving away,and it was someone who I gave 4 bags of baby clothes to a few months back...and I didn't get it. It's okay with me, I'd rather give it to someone who needs it then just haul it to Goodwill, but it is frustrating when I can't get anything I want back, even from those I have given to in the past. Literally, I've gotten nothing in 2 years on the list.

Now I sound like a whiny baby, but I thought I would get the bike since I knew the people, they came to my house and I gave them all the clothes for thier baby, but oh well. Life goes on.


11-06-2005, 09:43 PM
Do you have a day where you can do a wanted post? Ours is Saturday only and I put in a wanted for the highchair and she wound up giving me the saucer too when she heard what happened. He loves it and it playing in it right now. Freecycle can be frustrating at times and it is usually who bids for it first and I swear some people just sit at the computer waiting for an offer. Don't give up on it-I have gotten things we really needed that I just didn't have the money for. I like it because it saves me a trip to goodwill although there is an organization for the blind who comes to my house to pick stuff up when it is just too diverse to list on freecycle. No not whiny just disappointed and it is ok. I have called mom to "whine" too when it was something I really wanted to get and someone beat me to it and truthfully, that gal should have given you the bike especially since no one knows who emailed first ect-it just would have been the correct thing to do.

11-06-2005, 10:22 PM
I have had some major disappointments on freecycle- and I bascially gave up on it too cause i would spend all this time getting stuff ready and then no one would show up- after making an appointment-- The goodwill is 2 blocks from my job so i drop off things there . I have a freind who is a mod on our Freecycle site and she has great luck and seems to do well with it. and NO you don't sound whiny- just disappointed.

I do love ebay at times. I am selling off alot of old exercise video tapes i no longer like or want . I need to find someone in the area I can trust who knows antiques i am afraid to put some stuff on Ebay as i think they may be worth something but don't know for sure.

I relate about the weight comments. I was ok when the ladies group noticed cause they are all little old ladies and sweet.(and they gave me jeans :lol: )
But I really have come to the understanding I am not doing this to look good but for my health. I think when I keep telling myself that i can handle compliments better. I think the fear of being noticed is diminishing slowly.
I think Melissa is very wise and what she says is true concentrate on getting on track and being healthy and all the rest will fall into place.

No this time of year isn't too fun for me- I have to depend on 24 different people to get me stuff / information on time and when they don't well I end up stressing and working like crazy. But thsi year I will not eat to relieve stress and tension. I will come home and do my exercise tapes and do teh punching parts imagining that I am smacking stress (or maybe the person who didn't get the info on time ;) - I know that isn't nice But there are days. :dizzy: By Christmas eve all is calm again and I am enjoying my days.
Hubby just told me we are going to go to the big city (Orlando) for our 10 year anniversary in Feb. for 3 days we'll go to epcot and play tourist. I was all happy with that. we spent our honeymoon at disney so we are redoing it .. I'd love to be able to fit into my wedding dress again for a picture - need to lose 30 plus pounds though..
Have a better night all- Hugs to you Theresa :grouphug:

11-07-2005, 02:06 PM
Your trip sounds fun! All these people going on trips. My mom just told me she and dad won't be here for thanksgiving this year-they are heading to parts unknown and my grandma will go to my uncles house. I would have her here but I know all the kids would make her nervous and eventually cranky. Try not to let the stress get to you. I know it is hard when you have to rely on others-I tend to like to just take care of things myself so I know that they will get done.

Still not doing very well OP wise here and it is getting close to grocery day so the pickings are slim around here but I will do my best. I am tired but Logan and everyone are doing great so that is what is important. He loves his saucer and the highchair and he is now eating cereal and I will try him on some veggies at lunch time. He didn't know what cereal was a week ago. I am just so relieved he is here and I was right to worry about him before. Just kills me my daughter is this way. She was raised better than that and how she lives.

11-07-2005, 03:12 PM
I got my striptease dvds :carrot: and I can't wait to get started. I was surprised, because it said 2-6 weeks for delivery, and I got them in 4 days! I looked them over just by browsing the contents page and listening to the "interviews" on each one where they talk to the coreographers, to Carmen, and give little glimpses of them practicing and preparing it themselves. It looks like so much fun, and so much work I can't wait to get going. The warm ups are actual dancer warm ups and the routines are by some lady who does choreography for the big girly stars, you know Brittany and such, forget who else. There are 5 dvds and one is strength stuff, which I need because the strength I have, I can't get into and can't make myself do anymore. One is advanced striptease and it has 2 costume-based routines. You're supposed to really dress up too, like the librarian they say to at least put a pencil in your hair and put on some glasses. I just can't imagine myself doing this, let alone in front of hubby :o Maybe I'll feel better once I get going and find I can do it...if I can.

I've been OP eating today and feeling much better now that I know what is bothering me. My sister's doctor has pretty much told her she HAS to lose weight or health issues are just going to get worse and worse, so she has been going out for walks with her hubby and looking into eating plans she can stick with. I am going to give her all my old workout dvds, which striptease and windsor pilates are replacing. I was going to freecycle them all (5 dvds) but since she wants them I will just take them up in a couple weeks for Thanksgiving. I really felt bitter about putting them on freecycle because I knew I would get nothing back for them, and they are great dvds which I paid good $ for. I feel better now that I have someone I love to give them to, and she really needs relief from all her issues right now--lupus, cysts covering her ovaries, miscarriages, spinal fluid in her back causing issues, etc.

Melissa, sounds like things are improving and becoming more normal around there, very glad to hear that. Logan on cereal :spin: woohoo, you're turning his life around! Thank God he has you. The tiredness could be from eating off plan, you think? I get that way, it's amazing how much energy I have when I eat right. I am reminded of that today as I feel so much better being OP after awhile off. It is hard when groceries are running low, and you have another mouth to feed now so it's going to be rough. Just do your absolute best and look for sales. I got boneless skinless chicken breasts for $3 a package, down from $8-10 a pack. I only buy it on sale, but it happens about once a month or so. Tell everyone you want gift certificates to the grocery story for christmas if you can :lol: When I had my daughter things were so tight I thought we'd all starve to death, and I did that. My mom started sending me gift certificates for Food Lion once a month and it was a huge help. I am glad that is behind me, but really it could happen again at any moment. IF something happened to hubby or I did decide to leave him, it would be very rough. Just be thankful you can be there for the kids and keep going, you'll find a way to get through. It's amazing how strong we women are!

Sandi, glad the compliments are getting easier for you. The thought of compliments is in my way from making enough progress to actually get them right now, so I guess I am accomplishing what my backwards brain is trying to accomplish. I have to just keep going and have a different focus, that's all i can do about it. I can't control what others notice or say.

I'll let everyone know what I think of the new dvds once I get to doing them. there's so much on them, that I'm wondering if I can fit in the pilates (4 more dvds there). I'll manage I guess, once I figure it all out and how much time each routine is, etc.


11-07-2005, 03:30 PM
Yeah I think it is combination of not eating as well as I need to and plus getting up in the night for that feeding. I will be happy when he sleeps all night. Course Dess was up in the night too last night cause she had to go potty and I have to let her out of her room to do it and then lock her back in when she is done. She would be out the door and down the road if she weren't locked in or else she would have all the food out and dumped on the floor, painting with lipstick and toothpaste. She is one busy gal I tell ya. I always give to family and friends before I freecycle it. Family comes first always.

11-07-2005, 04:59 PM
Glad to hear you are feeling better today, Theresa! Sometimes we all can't help just feeling blue and wanting to give up. The important thing is that you DIDN'T give up. Can't wait to hear how you like the new DVD's. They sound like a lot of fun for you AND your hubby, and you can help out your sister by giving her your old workouts as well.

Melissa it sounds like Logan is doing great! What a relief for you and for him to be able to put stability in his life. I am glad that you have been able to get the things you need for him.

Sandi sounds like you are doing great with exercising and have figured out how to deal with all your stresses without eating. You will make it through the holidays no problem at all with that kind of an attitude! And what a great way to spend your anniversary! Sounds like a really fun trip!

I'm doing fine. We are having unbelievable weather here so I'm spending as much time as possible outside because I know it is short lived and before long we will be dealing with blizzards and freezing cold. I don't even need a jacket out there today which is pretty unheard of for November here.

The birthday party went fine Saturday night. We were running late getting there because our little goats had gotten out and we had to find a hole in the fence and fix it (they can squeeze through almost anything). By the time we got there the rest of the family was all there already and when we walked in my sister-in-law made a huge big fuss about all the weight I have lost. I truly think she did it just because of my MIL sitting right there, because she hates the way that my MIL treats me. My sister-in-law sees me at least once a week so it wasn't like it was some big surprise to her that I lost a bunch of weight. Of course my MIL just sat there looking at the TV and never said a word to me, and then left shortly after that. We ended up staying until almost midnight and had a really great time with the rest of the family. My sister-in-law (it was her sons b-day) had a big platter of fresh veggies there and she made low fat veggie pizza and veggie roll ups so that I would have lots of healthy choices to snack on.

Other than that, not much going on here except that raccoon season started Saturday and we've already had to kick some idiots off our property in the middle of the night because they were in the pasture with their vehicles and shooting into the trees in our grove right beside our house and no, they did not even have permission to be on our property at ALL! They also lost one of their hunting dogs out there for a while and it was running around our yard. All of our horses, goats, and llamas were frantic and running around full speed in the pasture in the dark! Let me tell ya, I was steaming and still am whenever I think about it. Whatever happened to common courtesy and manners! What the heck were they thinking??? I absolutely hate it when my husband has to go out there in the middle of the night and confront idiots with GUNS. It even had my kids up and pacing the floors because they were so scared. I am so sick of inconsiderate hunters and trappers, and we get so many of them here. It's always the ones that don't bother to ask who are out there doing really DUMB stuff.

Ok...sorry about that, I just had to have my little rant. That is a huge pet peeve for me and we deal with it on a regular basis this time of year.

Anyway...hope everybody is having a great Monday! I have kind of a weird week at work this week. We have one early out, one late start, and Friday off completely. I just hope the weather holds so I can get out there and enjoy it during my extra time off!

11-07-2005, 05:04 PM
Hello Everyone,

My name is Malia and I am beginning my weight loss journey today. I have 50 lbs to lose and have started the South Beach Diet. My downfall is breads and sweets!!! I know the worst. Anyway, I just thought I would share and hopefully get to know some of you.


11-07-2005, 05:12 PM
hhhmmmm I Will not be telling hubby about your new DVD's theresa..He'd love it but i am such a no talent person when it comes to any kind of dance... that's one reason i don't do aerobic videos like dance stuff cause I end up going left when they go right and I go back when they go forward... You all get the picture . That's why i like the power 90 aerobics you don't dance all around you just do lots of moving and it's ok if I go left when they go right.

I know I feel rotten when i eat Wrong. Tired and all grumpy. Hubby says he can tell when I am off during the day
Good news though my one boss who kept bringing in the Dunkin "D" word & chick fil a made a promise to his wife to eat better so he went and bought healthier stuff and is trying to eat better while at work. I mean his mil is the district Manager of WW for this area - he should at least know how to eat a bit better. so at least I won't have to smell the "D" word or grease in the a.m.
Had to laugh today- this one lady is selling all this "nutrition" stuff- suppliments , shakes and bars for Weight loss and health. I forget which company but it's a sell stuff at home thing. So she knew I am watching my weight ( as she says ) so she brought me some samples of bars and shakes.. oh yes they are nutritious :lol: :rofl: with the shakes having 7 grams of fat and the first ingredient being HFCS and the second ing. being sugar????The bars are just as bad 5 grams of fat and cane syrup, HFCS and SUGAR all in 1 bar :p oh my word people really think this stuff is good for you??? I was nice and said I'd look them over and see if they fit into my meal plan..NOT:nono: Gee i could just shovel sugar in and save 3.00 a bar right??

Melissa- I hope things calm down a bit more for you. I couldn't imagine dealing with a 5 month old plus other little ones. I hate to delegate things especially when they don't get done and then I have to rush and do what they didn't do. it is easier at times to do things myself.
Theresa- I am hanging on very tightly to issues about compliments -the little old ladies was a good practice for me learning to say thank you instead of eating everything in sight. I am always in a worried state that the "wrong type" person will say something and I will binge again... If that makes sense?
YAY Kayelle! I think your SIL rocks! I am really glad you had a good time and there was food that fit your plan. I am ready for the holidays - although I am really so busy I don't gain over them. Hubby said well you don't gain over the holidays so why step up the exercise Now?? and I said so I can run around and say I lost weight over the holidays - Sorry about the hunters... People are getting more rude these days and it really bothers me a lot. Maybe i should take up boxing?? :lol: Take out stress & upset on a punching bag???
I so hope Laura is having fun. and is candace off on her trip ? I hope she's having a blast too.
See ya'll later - I am going to try and jump (ok Skip rope) today :lol: .. I have found wearing 2 sports bras will hold "me" in and not bounce.
Sandi :dizzy:

11-07-2005, 05:32 PM
Hey Malia- Welcome
This is a great group - these ladies are so supportive - I'd be lost w/o them!
This site is awesome too with lots of great tips, ideas and information.
I understand about bread addictions. not so much sweets- But put me around wonder bread or italian bread and I drool...
Looking forward to getting to know you!

11-07-2005, 06:14 PM
Welcome, Malia! I really like the SB plan, but since it's hard for me to follow it in the phases, I have come up with a modified version that I eat and it feels natural to me. I hope you like it as well, but don't do it real strict, let it fit your lifestyle so you can do it forever. You'll get lots of support from these gals, so hang around and chat all you want, weight loss or other things.

I did the striptease tonight, DVD 1 and I love it! It is SO much fun. I watched it first and didn't think I'd be able to do it because the last routine goes all the way down to the floor and back up again, dancing :o I haven't danced in years, but I did it and it wasn't even that hard to catch the steps. Getting down and up was easier than I thought as well, even jumping from hands and knees to hands and feet in one beat :lol: I don't think I look half as good rolling my hips and rubbing my butt as Carmen does, but I did it anyway. I have to loose lots of weight to do this for hubby or I will feel stupid....but it is tons of fun though! I was sweating just from the warm up, which is done like a dance routine as well. I can't imagine what the advanced will be like when I get to that one!


11-07-2005, 07:09 PM
Hello all--I've been really out of the loop and I haven't even read through any of the threads. I got really swamped with some work stuff all of a sudden and was working 16-18 hours a day for 2 weeks. I guess it was worth it b/c I made an extra $2000 doing it, but it was exhausting. The first week I said I would just take a break from workouts and my diet stayed okay, but then I pretty much bombed the second week b/c I gave up trying to fix meals in lieu of sleep.

Honestly though, the past few days have just been me reverting back to old habits and not getting myself up to exercise or counting calories or anything. So, I have gained back weight that I had lost and I feel like I'm back to square one on the exercise.

I have to get back on track and I'm really struggling with taking the first steps to do it. A leeetle too much convenience food, cocktails and sweets lately. Not nearly enough exercise.

My workload hasn't really diminished that much either--I still have probably a few more hours tonight too.

I'll try to catch up on everyone's posts this week. I'm changing and getting to the gym, where I'll probably just walk on the stupid treadmill for awhile. I wish I could rake leaves in the dark, b/c our yard needs some real work.

Hope everyone else is hanging in there and sticking to the program. And Hello to the new posters!

11-07-2005, 07:49 PM
Glad to hear you're okay Melra, we worried about ya. Sorry you're so busy and for the slip, but you'll get right back to it when things slow down. HOpe that's soon.


11-07-2005, 09:03 PM
WHOO HOOO Melra's back :carrot: We missed you!!!! I really hope you can schedule some time so you can get back on a schedule. I know how hard it is to be busy and still stay OP and exercise But you can do it!:cheer:

Ok Theresa- I am now curious about the videos now... I just can't see me doing that - before you know it you'll dancing with no problems and losing weight :carrot:
I think the key to exercise is to do what feels best to you. I attempted to do what is supposed to be called Jumping rope this afternoon- More like a little skip then a puff puff "oh why did i want to do this" and one more skip and repeat words and puffing and so on for the next 20 minutes. I am still so out of shape. And i am tired of it :mad: the exercise is gonna step up even if it makes my muscles sore... and i will whine about it. But it will get easier and easier the more i work at it.
Well I've got dishes and a load of laundry to do and I am gonna make some WW soup for tomorrow. I am so addicted to that soup cause it's so filling and it just taste plain old yummy.
Have a great night everyone!
Sandi :dizzy:

11-08-2005, 01:28 PM
:welcome3: to alll the new posters. We are glad to have you. This is a great group with lots of great ideas and support! :woo: Melra!! Glad to have you back!! You were missed very much.
Well TOM is here again!!! I will not eat chocolate, I will not eat chocolate!!!
I've been trying to adjust SBD to lower the cholesterol factor, not doing so hot right now. I tried those egg white mix substitutes, just can't handle the taste. I miss the yolks. I have cut out most of the cheese so that should help some.
Melissa, sounds like Logan is loving his new home, Hats Off to ya, your a one-of-a-kind gal.
Theresa, those DVD's sound fun (a little scary to a klutz like me, but fun). Let us know how it goes.
By the way, If anyone is interested in the Pilates DVDs let me know. I'll be glad to mail them, no charge, to one of my SS buddies. I think I have at least 6 of them, maybe more.
One last thought, a prayer for safety for Laura on her Paris trip. Things are not very safe there right now with all the rioting that's going on.
Keep up the good work everyone!!


11-08-2005, 03:59 PM
If they aren't too hard to do, I would like to give them a shot. I think I am finally getting a groove here although Logan was up till midnite and then back up at 6a! I am looking forward to him sleeping all night I can tell you. I think we are going to make it though. I wound up having to pick josh up from school yesterday because he was having serious issues and boy was that interesting with all the kids! We made it though and it was weird cause soon as I got him he was great and he had a really great night last night and good morning too. Just makes me wonder sometimes what makes him tick. OP is tricky for me the next couple days-the larder is like really empty. I hate this time of the month for food. Well it looks like Logan is loading his drawers for me yet again so will check in later with ya'll.

11-08-2005, 10:40 PM
Melissa, you're almost out of the 200s!!!!! You are so close, keep going!

Misty, what kind of pilates DVDs are they?

Sandi, if you keep trying to jump rope you'll get better and better, and burn tons of calories while you work up to it. Keep trying, don't give up, it's those things that challenge and push us that keep the pounds coming off.

I did 3 sections from disc 2 in the striptease series, which is the Fit to Strip, strength disc. I did the warm up, which was like a mini-cardio workout for me :lol: and then the floorwork...and was going to do the ab section but the floorwork was more than enough and left me sore. It's amazing, they don't use weights and I had a better workout than I did with the Kathy Smith weight workout. And the moves are totally original, I've never seen half of them anywhere else, and they were so FUN and very effective. I was sweating pathetically, but it felt really good to be challenged again. These dvds are making me see that WATP and Kathy Smith was just way too easy...which feels great, because I could barely do 1 mile when I first bought WATP!

Then I tried the lap dance dvd for cardio this afternoon, and WHOA! I got halfway through and then put it away with the advanced tape, it will have to wait. She's like sitting sideways on a chair, then laying back with a hand on the floor, legs straight up in the air flipping around and then flipping one leg over the back of the chair to straddle it backwards :eek: They were not kidding when they said it's an advanced workout. I'll stick with the beginner one and work up to those...have something to look forward to, I like that.

Now, here's where I start blushing but I just have to tell you all. I practiced the hardest dance from the beginner workout, over and over in the mirror and when hubby came home last night i did it for him in the living room. I thought I'd do it and he'd laugh at me and I'd run off to bed feeling like a dork. BUT, he watched me like I was a movie star, and well, I didn't get to run right off the bed :love: Later, i asked him if I looked stupid and he kissed my cheek and said "not bad for one day, but you'll get better." He was loving about it, but honest, and that is what I always like, he speaks the truth.

I just can't believe I remembered the entire thing after one day of doing the dvd! that one goes all the way down to the ground and back up. You guys don't have to worry about being klutzy, it's just so fun and they emphasize learning the basic moves and putting personality into it, making it your own. Just a lot of hip action in there, and it really works your middle section...and it's so much fun I don't even feel like I'm exercising! Really, it's more fun than work but I look like I just took a shower when I'm done. Even if you never perform it, it's just a fun way to get a work out.

If anyone orders them, be careful. Most places online charge over $50 plus shipping, but there's a site where I got them all (5) for $38, $48 total with sihpping. It is kinda a lot, but they are so worth it and I'm glad I got them.


11-09-2005, 11:44 AM
HI everyone, Just a quick list for those interested in the DVDs.

Winsor Pilates DVDs:

Step-by-step guide & 20 minute workout---used
Accelerated Body Sculpting-- total body workout, 57 minutes, new (I have 2 for some reason).
Upper Body Sculpting--used, 22 minutes
Buns & Thighs Power sculpting--new, uses resistance band, 24 minutes
Advanced Power Sculpting--new, resistance band needed, total body, 54 minutes
Ab Sculpting--new, 22 minutes
The Back Workout--new, 25 minutes

Also have The Method Pilates, All in one workout--used, 90 minutes

Let me know what you are interested in, this is my busy week at work so be patient with me, I will get back to you!!!

Check back with everyone later.


11-09-2005, 12:45 PM
I am interested in whatever one isn't overly advanced to do. I have never done those so I am not sure which one would be easier to do.

Ice Princess
11-09-2005, 03:17 PM
Well, I'm all moved in, not unpacked but all moved in, thank good. I moved without his help, Yayyyy. I know I don't need him. It has been crazy here at work, I have been working 8:30am. - 12:00am., yes that is 8:30 in the morn till 12 midnight. So that is why my house in not unpacked but this weekend it should be all done and organized. I havnt got my internet hooked back up yet so I am only using the one at work, so I will try and keep in touch. Talk to you all later and keep up the good work.

11-09-2005, 03:48 PM
:strong: You are strong all on your own, Ice! You are so right, you do NOT need him! Good for you, don't ever give him a shot at you again...ever!

I am a bit sore today, but nothing that interferes with normal functioning. It's the good kind of sore, where you feel every muscle when just walking or bending to pick up something.

I don't need the Pilates dvds, because mom just told me she ordered me a set of Winsor Pilates for Christmas. I was telling her someone here could send me some, and she said "Oh no! Don't do that!" :lol:


11-09-2005, 04:01 PM
Well I think I am back in the saddle again and without too much damage to myself either. I wound up giving Logan a bath in the sink and although he wasn't too sure about it and a bit nervous, there was no freak-out which is what I wanted to avoid. Tomorrow is grocery day and I am doing a happy dance here. This will be the first time with all 3 little ones so let's see how it goes. The girls are used to it, it is Logan I am not too sure about. There will be so much for him to see, I am sure he will be fine. I have got to get a bigger car though. I can't really legally drive with all the kids. I don't go huge distances but I still don't like it. I am kind of dreading thanksgiving and I am sure mostly because it is just me and the kids. Mom and Dad won't even be in town. If the other side of the girls family wasn't so far away, I would take the kids but it is like an hour away plus a ferry ride. Plus when you are dealing with naptimes ect, it is a pain. Well I got two out of three sleeping so I am going to try and get some housework done here. I never know when the caseworker is going to show up so I keep the house looking like I am about to have company over. Makes me tired LOL

11-09-2005, 04:49 PM
Misty, I have a friend who would like one of the pilates DVDs if you have one to send her. She is thin woman but wants to tone up and get lean and curvy, so maybe you know which one she would need?? Let Melissa get the first pick, she deserves them most of all. I'll give you my address in private email if you have one I can give to her.

Melissa :grouphug: you are so inspiring. I guess not hearing anything yet on Logan is good news? Have you heard from your daughter at all, or do you have any clue when she goes back to court or anything? You are ten times as brave and strong as I am. God knew what he was doing when he sent them babies your way. It's hard, I wish there were something I could do other than sit all the way across the country and cheer you on.


11-09-2005, 06:03 PM
I haven't heard anything from cps and I take no news is good news. Kate isn't allowed to come over or call here until she is cleared to do so by cps. Casworker said if she shows up I am supposed to call 911. I am just hoping she listens and it doesn't come to that. I would hate it so bad. Last I heard she was being released from jail but I don't know if that is the end of it or she will have to go back. All I knew is that I was not going to bail her out even if I had had the money to do it. Just knowing you guys are there and let me vent or cry is alot-believe me! I don't get out much at all and have hardly any "grown-up" conversation so this is kind of a real sanity line for me. The little ones really are great kids but they are kids LOL. I am going to attempt church on sunday-we will see how it goes. Josh will be with dennis and I can use the stroller to get two of them in and Odessa is pretty darn good about holding my hand. I haven't been in months between Josh's fits and the kids having one thing after another. I miss it alot. I always have been pretty stubborn and determined even from a young age so that must be what is getting me through. I will fight like crazy to keep Logan here forever. Sending him back would be awful for him and his life. He is really starting to jabber, blow me rasberries and he inhales and exhales really fast when he gets excited. It is just so darn cute.

11-09-2005, 08:16 PM
Hi all!
Sorry I haven't checked in lately, just been busy and not on plan eating wise at all... have to admit it... I am really falling off the plan and am ashamed to check in :(
I am exercising regularly, so I think that is what is keeping me from gaining too much!
I just can't stop eating!! It's not just me either, everyone at work is the same way???

Melissa, I am glad to hear that Logan is doing so well - You are an amazing woman!
Ice - your right you don't need him!!!!!!
I also hope that LauraB is okay those riots sound terrible and last I heard they were spreading around France?
Congrats to everyone else who have gotten into smaller pants, been excersing reguarly and staying on plan !
I hope to be among you all soon! ;)

11-09-2005, 08:50 PM
Melissa- you are brave- I can handle all kinds of major crisis but when it comes to organizing kids I am lost. (that's why I have my hubby :lol: he is very organized when it comes to kids.) Thanksgiving may not be bad- you'd be with the kids- watch the parade and play some games. They may be little but you can still play with them.

I hate the jump rope -repeat : :p I hate the jump rope .....I know keep going and I'll get better. and maybe I'll sorta like the jump rope ..maybe one day

Theresa- I am wondering now about the dance videos cause now they sound interesting--- but I don't know....maybe next year.

WHOO HOO Ice :carrot: way to go girl- You don't need him and keep strong.

Hey Suzette :wave: I never thought about Laura Being in France with all the riots. I hope she is ok and everything is good for her trip.

If anyone is interested I have a beginners Pilates that teaches you all the moves and a 20 minute work out and an upper body workout from the firm. I'll gladly send them to anyone- They are videos tho - But if you want more info let me know and I'll send them if ya want them. I just can't get into the pilates.

Still trying- Don't you be ashamed- we all have our set backs and hungry days ( see below) you can do this :carrot: we shouldn't beat ourselves up if we don't eat OP all the time. this is not a quick fix but a lifestyle change and we can't always be perfect..and hey you are exercising that's awesome! check back in and chat- for :cheer: or :drill: to help you keep going!

Hey to everyone else :wave:

I am having a hungry two days- It's TOM and i just want to eat. I haven't eaten bad - no junk food but i ate 2 servings of cereal today and an extra helping of chicken tonight -I just have the munchies i guess. But i haven't eated candy or junk so maybe it'll be ok. I am feeling icky too so exercise is NOT on my schedule. I don't care if they say exercise helps during TOM..As Scarlett says "I'll think about it tomorrow" But boy I do want chocolate - I told hubby give me chocolate and no one gets hurt.. he just laughed at me and said calories.. calories.. calories....( I hate it when he's right :p )
I am reading The books make the connection and body makeover by the guy who helped Oprah - He makes a lot of sense and i can get some tips from his books.

Have a good night all
Sandi :dizzy:

11-10-2005, 01:00 AM
I don't know if I'm feeling icky because I had beans for supper, or because I'm so tired I could fall over and not get up for a week, or because I feel like a human snot rag and really need some "me" time without the kids...or what, but I feel really, really icky :^: Hubby keeps teasing and saying I'm pregnant, but i keep telling him to shut up because every time he says I have something...I DO! When I was pregnant with my son, he made a comment on he way to the doctor's office that I felt so bad because I was dying of cancer, and I laughed...well, ten minutes later doc told me that they found some cells or something that might be CANCER! They turned out to be nothing, but it was weird that it happened right after hubby said that. SO, I am telling him to shut up because I dont want to have anymore kids...EVER.

OKay, so I am thinking about getting myself fixed so this isn't a worry anymore, and because having another would seriously wreck my life, and I am stressed out with what I have now and cannot handle another. I'm staring to feel normal again, like ME again, I don't want another one!! My mom is saying I shouldn't because I'm only 28 and I don't know what i'll want in the future, and my mind can change :blah: She also says that men lose interest in women once they are not fertile anymore :?: Hubby doesn't want anymore either, so I don't see how he'd care, but she says it's nature or something. What do you all think?????

Theresa, feeling miserable tonight

11-10-2005, 04:46 AM
Melissa, I'll be glad to send you the beginner DVD, then if you want the others after trying it, just say so. I can't do anything that involves lying on the floor because of my knees. That's why I never got into the DVDs very well. If you find you don't like it, just pass it on to someone else. PM me with your info and I'll try to get it off this week. Theresa, I really don't know which DVD would be best as most of them have never even been opened. I'll be glad to send which ever one you choose. Anyone interested just PM me.


11-10-2005, 12:13 PM
Pray for me guys. Today is the first day I am taking all 3 little ones grocery shopping and I am a little nervous about it. I am getting lots of OP stuff today so I can get busy getting rid of the rest of this weight. Colored my hair last night too-the gray is gone! Chocolate Cherry is the color and I figured anything named after one of my favorite old junkies couldn't stear me wrong and I was happy how it turned out. First time I did it all by myself. Now I just need to get in and get some of this hair chopped off so it can be short and sassy again. Since I got the girls year and a half ago, I just haven't had the money or childcare to do my hair. I love Joy but she takes a really long time getting the job done. Well I better wake up Amanda and finish dressing the other two so I can get out of here and back close to lunch time. They are all very particular about meal times around here whether they suffer from autism or not.

11-10-2005, 12:46 PM
Good luck, Melissa, though I know you'll do great. EVen if the little ones act up, you will handle it with patience and skill. You are incredible, because i took Ty to the grocery store this AM with me and was about to pull all the hair out of my head!

I discovered this AM that I am now able to lean from Tyler's side of the Exploer over to Allie's seat enough to buckle her in without cutting myself in half! I could never do that before with my big tummy, at least not without puking up breakfast! But I did it comfortably today and was so proud of myself. The little things are the biggest surprises, aren't they?

I tried the SBD wrap kits, and they are really good though not worth almost $4 each. I can buy some WW tortillas and make them myself cheaper. But, it did give me some good ideas so it was worth a one time purchase. I think I'll make up some chicken in the style they used and put it in the fridge so I can make them quick. I wonder how long cooked chicken lasts in the fridge? Can I freeze cooked chicken? :?: I am such a loss in the kitchen sometimes.


11-10-2005, 01:23 PM
:carrot: it's lunchtime :carrot: i want pizza and chips oooH Nachos with extra sour cream YUM and chocolate cake and a coke. :T
But I guess i will settle for my tuna salad and apple with a side of bottled water. :lol:
Melissa- the hair color sounds great..good luck at the store. I am like theresa- can't takes kids as i lose my train of thought and mine are 7, 12, 21 and then there's hubby.. He's NOT allowed to go with me.
Theresa --Cooked chicken usually lasts 2-3 days in the fridge and I have frozen cooked chicken - I don't keep it longer than a month or it gets icky tasting (to me anyway)- I take leftover chicken and put it in small bags and store it in the freezer. and info on your other question-i had my tubes done after my last one and of course i was ALOT older than you (35) when i had her - she was not planned -she was a what did you say ?? I'm WHAT??:eek:
:sssh:I'll let out a secret here- my hubby is 8 years younger than me and he doesn't seem to care that it's done- if you know what I mean.. :p in fact it made things alot easier on us not worrying about Birth control. ;) But again you are a lot younger than me so..
Well lunch is over so I'll check back later. Have a good afternoon.

11-10-2005, 01:39 PM
welcome to the group malia! woohoo, melra is back! yay! theresa, those striptease workouts sound like so much fun. i wish i had those. i have been wanting to try strip workouts for awhile, ever since they came out with them. my best friend used to be a stripper and she was in great shape then. 8 hours dancing in stilettos will do that ;)
good luck shopping melissa. congrats on getting the stuff for logan.
camping was fun. i was glad i bought the 50 calorie hotdogs because at least that made up for the smores. and i really did well at rachel's birthday dinner with her family. chicken breast sandwich with no bread and just tons of veggies done up like salad and an ever so tiny piece of cake. no one in her family recognized me! :D rachel had to tell them who i was. didn't do so well at the party later. at least the beer was light is all i can say about that. :devil: i also caved on tuesday and had cheesecake when we went to the pastor's house for dinner :( so i am not looking forward to the scale today. but i will go to the gym!
i don't know if this is good or bad, but i was really grossed out yesterday when i was trying on my new bra. i was bent over and this loose skin on my stomach made this disgusting wrinkled pouch. i really want to figure out how to get rid of that. gross.

11-10-2005, 03:01 PM
Hey, Cadwell! Glad you made it home safe and that you had a good time...and that they didn't recognize you, bet that felt great! Don't be too hard on yourself over the treats, you did your best. These vacation things aren't every day, so I think you just do your best and then move on, get back OP with every day life.

Sandi, I know how you feel about wanting to eat everything...did you stick with your tuna and apple? :stress: Thanks for all the info and tips as well. I am just worrying over the getting fixed thing now because 2 of my 4 sisters have popped up pregnant again, and last time we all did that together. It's even gotten hubby worrying over it, we seriously don't want another one. He will not get fixed, says he wouldn't feel "right" with that gone...I told him it's not like they're whacking the whole thing off :rolleyes: MEN!

Okay...I'm glad we're all ladies here, why do I keep getting on these subjects?

Melissa, been thinking about did it go?

:stars: I just did the hip hop striptease, which isn't a strip tease but a hip hop dance thing. I had to keep rewinding back over the first move, couldn't get it for like 10 tries :lol: I made it all the way through, with rewinding constantly, but still in the end I missed half the moves with music. I can do it okay in slow motion just counting out each step, but when the music starts and it's faster I can only get less than halfway through then I'm lost and just doing my own thing. It's okay, I'll keep trying. It is a GREAT workout it possible to sweat yourself to death? I inhaled almost all my water for the day during that 45 minutes, so that's good I guess.


11-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Well we made it! Just got tricky toward the end because it was lunchtime and Amanda must eat at lunchtime! I did have to stop a couple of times and give Logan some bottle but all in all other than being like totally exhausted, it went pretty darn well and of course I was stopped I don't know how many times so people could look at the kids. I am biased but I think they are just adorable. I get people who look at me with that look of "don't you know what causes that????" Little do they know I have been celebate for like 5 years now lol.

And no they don't cut the whole thing off either for vasectomy. I made Dennis get one after Joshua cause he just about did me in. I was told not to have kids because of my bones and the severe scoliosis and wouldn't you know it-I had 2 just to prove my point. It made things way more spontanious afterward cause no one has to worry about any booboos and Dennis liked it cause I was in the mood way more often. It doesn't affect anything and he would be right as rain in just a few days. My son in law did it too after amanda and he even says it is a load off his mind-he can never be called for paternity.

Well I need to finish putting groceries away and Mena is about ready for her nap too.

11-10-2005, 07:56 PM
yep i stuck with my FF mayo and tuna salad and apple.NOT want i wanted but I needed to behave myself.

Well Jocie was sick tuesday night and Wednesday - NOW my hubby ( who never gets sick) is sick with the same thing. Puking all over -upset tummies and just sick. I had it weeks ago- so Hopefully i will escape this one. But I am tired running back and forth for everyone.. HA! Burning off more calories.

well dinner for the kids was oven fires and chicken and of course I had to eat some fries... :( BUT they were 16 fries to a serving NO FAT and only 130 calories so not too bad for a splurge. and then I went to the store for gatorade for hubby and they had Edy's on sale buy 1 get 1 and I grabbed him sherbert in case he could eat and then I thought why waste a B1G1?? So I splurged and got a think of FF/SF chocolate. (it was either that or the candy bars that were buy1 get 3 free) so I came home and figured out it would be 100 calories for a 1/2 cup Ice cream, 30 cals for the SF syrup, 15 cals for the coolwhip free and about 40 cals to add some banana :carrot: so for 200 cals I can have a yummy treat cause if i didn't I'd be binging right now. I am in that kinda mood. look out house you are gonna get clean :lol:
I still have 400 cals left after dinner and thats hitting 1600 so if i blow 200 on a treat i still have 200 I won't eat.. and i will do 15 minutes extra of bike riding today and tomorrow..
Men are so ridiculous when it comes to their "manhood" I guess guys think they are gonna be chopped off like a dog or something..I asked my hubby tonight if he was less attracted to me cause I got tied and he said HUH?? Un NO- and told me that was a silly question- I told him i was getting a man's point of view.
Theresa I have to tell you I was scheduled for a tubal and 3 weeks before my appt. i got really sick and had to go to the ER and they said well we can't give you this med. or do xrays cause you are PG and I went WHAT :eek:
so we had to cancel that appt. :p
:carrot: Melissa on your shopping today and :wave: welcome back candace! I am so glad your trip was fun. :bravo: Theresa for keeping up and really trying with the videos- that is awesome that you keep rewinding and doing it right!
well i have dishes and at least 1 load of laundry for tonight so have a great night all

11-10-2005, 10:20 PM
I knew you'd be fine Melissa! The baby may have slowed ya down with the bottle but come know he's worth it! :)

Sandi, I had to have something for a treat tonight as well, or I knew I was going to binge as well. I had vanilla FF yogurt with tropical fruit cocktail. It was yummy and on plan so I am content with myself.

I asked my mom tonight where she got that men aren't attracted to women who have been fixed, and she said that someone told her that after my dad left her! I told her I don't believe it, and I seriously doubt that's the reason he left her...he abandoned us ALL, not just her, and I doubt that is the reason. Why would someone say that to her??? I'm wondering now who it was, but she won't say. GRRR.


11-10-2005, 11:18 PM
Just my two cents but that is a load of crap. If it weren't there wouldn't be so many men abandoning women when they are pregnant and they wouldn't try so hard most of the time to NOT get women pregnant. They would never know it had happened if a woman never said anything and I think it would just make them more in the mood knowing they could yeehaw all they wanted without anything happening. You are exactly right-he did abandon you all and it was for purely selfish reasons I am sure. It usually is barring infedility or abuse. Ok I am off my soapbox now. All I can suggest maybe is talk it over with hubby although it is cheaper and less invasive for him to do it. You do it, you are in the hospital and have actual surgery and will need some time to recover. He does it in a dr office, hangs out with a bag of frozen peas for a few days and it is done.

11-11-2005, 09:19 AM
Whew I have missed out on a lot here in just a couple of days! I love it when this board is so busy! What an awesome group!

Melissa I'm so glad to hear you are settling in and things are going well. I'm happy that grocery shopping wasn't too terribly stressful for you. You just seem to take everything in stride. I am amazed. I have scoliosis, too! Mine is mild, though, and has never given me any problems. I have had a lot more problems from the herniated disc that I have. Even that hasn't bothered me for ages, though.

Theresa, my hubby also had a vasectomy when I was 27 and he was 28, and you should definitely do some research into both options. For us it's major surgery, for them it's just a little snip snip in the Dr.'s office. Sure they have a little pain afterwards, but my husband only missed a couple of days of work and I was home with him making a fuss over him and I don't think he minded too much. We have definitely never regretted it, and it is such a relief to never have to worry about pregnancy or birth control.

Sandi, great job resisting the binge! You are so creative with figuring out yummy treats that are low calorie. You're doing awesome. Hope your family is feeling better today and you have avoided the flu bug!

Cadwell glad you had a good trip and surprised everybody with the new you! I know all too well about the wrinkly pouch on the belly that appears when bending over. Fortunately that's the only time it's really noticable. I hate it and I hope that it tightens up some (may be wishful thinking), but if not it's still better than the alternative of keeping all the extra fat that I was carrying around in that pouch. I can't afford a tummy tuck at the moment so I will live with it.

Hello and welcome to malia! Feel free to jump right in anytime!

I hope those that are traveling are having a great time!

WELCOME BACK MELRA! We had all been wondering what had happened to you! Glad to see you back here.

Hi to everybody else!

Hope everone is having a great Friday! I know I am enjoying mine because it's the start of a long 4 day weekend for me and we are supposed to have perfect weather I am looking forward to getting some work done outside and maybe go for a jog and some long walks.

11-11-2005, 01:14 PM
WI this morning didn't go as well as I planned. I thought for sure I lost with all the new exercise and feeling so much better, and my body just feeling smaller and more alive...but I'm UP TWO POUNDS!!!!! Really, my clothes have gotten looser just this week of doing the dancing, so I think it has to be muscle gain :?: I'm not moving my ticker unless it's still up next week...give my body a chance to adjust to the new exercise program.

Today feels like Saturday for me because Allie didn't have school and we all slept in until 8:30. I can't believe I consider that sleeping in, we used to sleep until 10 or 11 every day :lol: IT's better getting up earlier though, I get more done. It's amazing how quickly we adjusted, I thought I was going to die when I first started getting up at 6!

A friend of mine invited me to a Mary Kay party tomorrow to get facials and chat and just have fun without the kids....heaven! I don't know if I'll get to go or not, have to see what time hubby gets in and if he gets the brakes changed on my vehicle by then or not. It's at 10:30AM so I am betting he doesn't get them done :( considering he's not even going to be home until late this afternoon and will be tired. Oh well, seems I never get to go anywhere alone anymore.


11-11-2005, 02:55 PM
I am hearing you on not going anywhere without at least one child in tow. It is hard when they are so small but this time also goes very fast too. Hopefully hubby will see it is important for you to go have some lady time and get things done so you can go. I got my menu done and am officially back in the saddle. Those few pounds are still sitting on me and I want to get going and make goal for November. Missing two months in a row would be awful. Even if I could just get under the 200 mark I would be happy and could move on from there. I was so tired last night I was in bed by like 915p which is unheard of for me but I just couldn't keep the peepers open anymore. I think all that shopping just plum wore me out. I got most of the Thanksgiving stuff done too so I spent like over 200 bux yesterday. Babyfood is spendy but at least he is getting excited to see the bowl now. He got stoked when I made his cereal this morning and ate it all and I gave him sweet potatoes last night and he munched that all down too. I am going to have to buy a farm I think just to keep that little guy fed. I have spent most of the morning just picking up messes. Amanda has become quite the busy bee lately and been into everything. I just wish she would get over her toilet fishing deal cause that just disturbs me to no end. Made a big salad and can't wait. I never thought I would get excited over salad LOL. Well now to find the livingroom again and maybe get some muffins made and some breakfast cookies too. That is the one meal I have been having a hard time getting. By the time I get all the kids settled and fed, dressed blah blah, it is just about time for lunch and I am stinking starving so if I have some "convenient" food, I can at least grab bites between all the other stuff. Trying to plan again here so I can get that scale on the move again in the right direction!

11-11-2005, 11:47 PM
How do you make breakfast cookies? Sounds like something I might actually get Allie to eat before school, she just isn't into breakfast.

I was also very tired last night, went to bed at 9, which is early for me as well. i needed it and felt better this AM though. And baby food is pricey, but our grocery store used to mark it down way cheap once a month and I about bought the shelves empty so I wouldn't have to worry about it until they were on sale again. Exactly how I do chicken breasts now!


11-12-2005, 12:14 AM
Breakfast Cookie
1 1/4c oatmeal
1/4c raisins
1/4c whole wheat flour
1c unsweetened applesauce
1 1/2t cinnamon
1 1/2t baking powder
1/4c sugar
1/4t salt

Mix and bake on greased cookie sheet at 350 for 15-20 min
5 cookies 3pts each
Have no idea what the calories are

Washington state is so flipping expensive to live. If my family wasn't here, I would move. While it is really pretty we are taxed to death here and everything is expensive. Just for an example this house I live in is 3 bedroom 1 & 1 1/2 bath and rent is 1135.00 for rent and this is pretty standard.

11-12-2005, 10:27 AM
Yikes...that does seem really high for rent, Melissa. I know we are spoiled here with housing expenses, though. There are some things that are higher here than other places, but buying or renting houses is pretty reasonable, probably because not too many people are just too crazy about moving to Iowa. I know my SIL rents a 3 bedroom for just over $300 per month. WA is extraordinarily beautiful, though. We spent couple of weeks in WA & OR back in 2000 and loved every minute of it.

I am disappointed in myself with maintenance so far. I thought I was doing so well when I was losing weight, not counting calories, not stressing, and eating whenever I was hungry. Once I hit my goal weight I'm so afraid of gaining that I am getting weird about every bite of food I eat, counting calories, worrying that I will gain if I eat this or that (stuff I've eaten all along!), weighing almost every day. Thursday night I was mad at myself because I thought I ate too many grapes! The whole time I was trying to lose I let myself eat as many fresh fruits and veggies as I wanted between meals and never even thought twice about it. I just need to learn how to relax about this again or I know I am headed for problems. It took me a whole month to lose the last 5 lbs. to get to goal and now I've lost 4 more just since Oct. 31st because I have gotten so stringent about everything. I am just so afraid of gaining it all back again. I know that I just need to chill and quit worrying about it so much and it would be OK, it's just easier to say that than to actually do it. I do like the idea of being under my goal going into the Holiday season, but I'm afraid that I won't even be able to relax and enjoy the holidays at all if I don't get this figured out before then. This is NOT the person I want to be.

11-12-2005, 02:42 PM
While it is very normal to "freak" about regaining weight, you do need to try and relax a little. I know I find myself getting upset and undone and afraid to gain what I have lost and I haven't gotten close to my goal yet. I am not sure how to find the balance in all that. While you need to watch what you eat, try not to be compulsive about it-I know easier said than done. We are all here for you and you just post all you need to and hopefully between all of us, we can find some answers. You have just accomplished a huge thing and you should be free to enjoy it without getting down on yourself or feeling mad.

11-12-2005, 03:29 PM
I must have been holding water or something yesterday, because not only is that 2 pounds gone this AM, but I have lost 1 lb. :D this is GREAT news for me, maybe this new exercise program will get me moving, and not just once a month. I get to move my ticker :carrot:

Kay, you are stressing over gaining it back, but I think with time you will be able to relax, once you see that it's not coming back on. Don't get too picky and go anorexic on us, you've come way too far to do that to yourself! Eat the same way you did while losing it, and you could probably have an extra treat every now and then **controlled snack** since you are not trying to lose anymore. You know, don't go out of your way to get treats, but if one comes your way have a nibble, it's not going to ruin you again! Relax, you have come so far!

And Melissa, I believe you are about halfway to your goal, so don't say you're nowhere near it...halfway is pretty darn close!


11-12-2005, 03:42 PM
Congrats on the pound gone! That is great. I feel like I have alot of weight still to lose and then I gained a few too over the last week and a half. I finally figured out I was feeling kind of overwhelmed and a little afraid of how I was going to pull all of this off so now I feel much better about things. I think for me just finally figuring it out is half the battle. Logan actually acted like he enjoyed his little bath today in the sink. I am not going to put him in the tub still for awhile until I know he is going to feel good in there and not freak. The girls are in there now splashing like crazy. I had to start bathing everyone during the day instead of after dinner cause I am just too tired by then. Going to do some baking and make those muffins and breakfast cookies. Today it worked out nice cause it was just me and Logan for while so I fed him and then fed me while chatting with him. That was not a typical morning around here though, especially on a school day. Laundry out the wazoo again and my yard is full of leaves but I haven't figured out how to get out there since it seems I always have two kids up. I usually take Dessa out with me while Amanda was napping but now there is the Logan factor. I will figure it out though. I usually do.

11-13-2005, 04:44 AM
yum, those breakfast cookies sound so good. am so bitter now because dh bought his 350 cal a half cup ice cream and no way am i going to eat that. he wouldn't even get me some low cal stuff. grrrr. bitter.
kayelle, don't worry.. you won't gain it back! now that you are used to eating healthy, that yucky stuff that puts on pounds won't even be tempting. if you just eat normal stuff like you have over these past few months, you'll be fine without stressing over each little nibble or grape ;) you are doing great!

11-13-2005, 10:32 AM
Cadwell, my hubby brings home ice cream as well, he can't live without it and the kids just love him for it. I keep a thing of Breyers Light Vanilla Bean in the deep freeze (so it's there, but out of site on a daily basis). That way I don't have to resist the stuff he brings home, I just pull that out and serve myself a serving. 1/2 cup is 100 calories and 3.5 g fat, not bad for an ice cream treat!

Melissa, is there any way to get Logan and Amanda onto the same sleep schedule? I know it wouldn't help you immediately for the leaves, but in the long run it might be a good idea to make things like this easier. I am working on that myself, since Ty likes to nap while Allie is at school then when she comes home and has her nap, he's up. I have pretty much broken him to stay up until she's home though, thankfully. When Ty was little last year I put him in his saucer right inside the doorway, door open, so I could see him through the glass door and hear him if he cried. I did the work very fast and then got back inside, but I felt okay because I could see him in there. I don't know if something like that could work for you or not.

Hubby watched me do the beginner's dance dvd last night and he said "that's it? That's ALL your exercise for the night?" I wasn't even sweating, so I put in the advanced dvd, figuring I wouldn't be able to do it. I could, and it wasn't bad at all, so I'll start working on that one as well. I would have never even tried it yet, had he not insisted! I sweating so bad the first time I did the beginner, but now I barely sweat after the whole thing :shrug: Iswill keep with the beginner though, because I don't exactly have one of the dances yet and there lots of moves that are still hard for me. I will keep until I look good doing these dances, like an idiot as I do now :lol:


11-13-2005, 11:24 AM
I am so trying to get that to happen here for the two smaller ones. I think within a couple of weeks that will work. The weather has gotten pretty cold over the last couple of days. Jack frost is definately nippin at the nose here. He is sleeping much better at night now that he is eating food. He gets excited when he sees the spoon. He did get a new nickname yesterday "Worf" because he was just a little Klingon and I could hardly get anything done. He also discovered he can sqeal and scream too and cough. He is just blooming so quickly compared to Amanda when I got her. She was 8 months and couldn't sit up or roll over even. She is finally starting to say a few words and chances are she will have some speach therapy starting in Feb or March. Well I suppose I should dress Logan for church. I just heard odessa in there. She always says "hellooooo! so I can let her out. This will be the first time I attempt this one too. I did find one of those wrist to wrist connectors so the smaller ones will go in the stroller and I will attach Dess to me. I just really really hope Katy doesn't get pregnant again.

11-13-2005, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the support, everyone. I did a little research and thinking yesterday and I am feeling somewhat better today. I think when I started entering everything on Fitday I was kind of shocked at how many calories I was actually eating so I cut back on some things, but all my extra calories are coming from fruits & veggies (I am talking around 12 servings daily and sometimes more). So...I dug out some older weight watchers literature that my mom gave me a while ago and a lot of the stuff I eat is 0 or 1 pt. per serving and even at the end of the day when I add everything up I am really low on points and then I earn extra points with exercise I know that's why I've started losing faster again when I'm trying to just level off. I love Fitday because it figures up all the nutrients and everything, but I have to quit worrying about the calorie counts on there and try to count points for a while instead until I figure out how much I need to eat to keep the scale in one place. I eat enough to not feel hungry already, though, and I don't want to get into the habit of stuffing myself, so I am going to have to make a few careful changes in my food choices. I can do this.

Our weather here was so wild yesterday for November. We were lucky here and just got some thunderstorms and heavy winds, but there were a lot of extremely damaging tornadoes around the state and that is really rare this time of the year. Today it's cold and the wind is still really blowing so I will be doing the nordic track and stationary bike for exercise.

Cadwell good for you resisting hubby's high cal. ice cream. You don't want that stuff!

Theresa congrats on the loss! Whoohoo! Keep it up with the exercise it make such a difference on the scale and it just makes you feel good, too. I know I just don't feel right if I don't at least get some exercise in every single day.

Melissa how was church? You are doing an amazing job with those kids! It sounds like Logan is really settling in quickly. Those kids are so very lucky to have you in their lives.

All of you that have little ones just amaze me. When my two were little I had a hard time getting any little thing done around the house. Even now they are both teenagers and I swear I can't even take a shower in peace. The other morning my son was at the bathroom door yelling at me about having bad reception on his cell phone and he couldn't get a text message to go through to his gf. Like I could do anything about that even if I wasn't in the shower!

11-13-2005, 01:16 PM
:lol: Kayelle, teenagers these days certainly have different problems than when i was growing up. Did ya tell him to step outside with it? Sometimes we can't get good signals inside here, but if you go outside it's better. You'll figure out what you need to do, and sounds like you're on the right path to figuring it out. You have come so far, this should be a GREAT problem to have!!! I can't wait until my problem is I can't stop losing :p

Melissa, how did church go with your herd? I am so glad to hear how well Logan is doing! A lot of work, but he is worth it, right? Oh god, can you convince Katy to get herself fixed? Seriously, I wish there was a way to do that when they can't take care of their own. You can't take anymore, though I know you would if it came down to that. I would as well, if it ever came to that with my own children...but I have a long time to worry about that!


11-13-2005, 01:18 PM
Well we did not escape the tummy flu- it's not fair I have had this thing twice in less than a month. Grrr :mad:
I am still icky feeling although i guess not eating for 2 days has helped drop the scale but it'll prolly bounce back as soon as i can handle more than soup. I just want to be in the 150's by December. I don't care if it's 159 and 3/4 -I just want the scale to say 150 something.. I just need to feel better so i can exercise.

Ok catch up time with everyone-
Wow Melissa - that does seem high for rent but around here things are so weird- we pay like 475 a month but we are in a 1000 square foot duplex and as it's just the 3 of us now we are not too crowded- plus we have a yard and a porch -rent is all over the place for houses-and our electric is 150 a month But we pretty much run the air 10 months out of the year for 24/7. and water is 85.00 a month- love those city taxes... if you move 1 town up prices are cheaper for electric and h2o --although we do have nice apt. places that go for 700 a month for a 3 bedroom 2 bath with a pool, play center,after school care( free if you live there) and a gym. But there's no yard.. and how brave taking all those kids to church! you are so amazing.
I used to put jocie in a play pen and drag her our with me I put one of those Mosquito tents over the play pen and she had a blast -i'd put her in the shade
:lol: worf - I call my hubby that when he is grumpy.. or being really macho- loved the "klingon" reference - I can use that when Jocie is being like that :lol:

Theresa- Way to go on the exercise...You can really stick to it in a way I just can't seem to get together. good for you!
Candace- Shame on Hubby -I would be having a fit. maybe you can grab some lite or lo-cal stuff that you can eat .
Kay - please don't stress- there are a lot of good tips on the maintainers board and we are here for you as always. although I am afraid if i ever - WAIT-- I mean WHEN I get to goal may be that way too. You are used to eating healthy and keep walking too that will help. Hey the WW stuff will help too and i understand what you mean about teens- This sounds mean but my eldest is on a cruise for the next 8 days and we are really looking forward to not having her stress us this week. We love her and even though she doesn't live here anymore she is 21- we are still dealing with her and some of her issues.
In- laws are being fantastic about turkey day. My MIL called and asked what they could do to help with my meal plan for thanksgiving- i told them just not put butter in the veg's in advance and I'd bring a lofat dessert - and they are just doing baked sweet pots and not mashed with mallow creme and sugar. they are really nice and i think i will handle it well and we won't have leftovers here for me to nibble either & that will help.
Well this post is prolly way too long But i missed everyone . So happy to be back. :carrot:
Have a great day all

11-13-2005, 01:22 PM
We don't leave here until 1015 my time so I have about an hour. All the kids are dressed and I defrizzed Amanda's hair. She has very curly hair and she looks like she put her finger in a light socket when she gets up in the morning. The girls need new tights and Odessa needs new church shoes. She is wearing right now what really fits Amanda but since Amanda threw a huge fit about shoes (she hates them), I just let Dess wear them.

Katy was supposed to get fixed after Logan but I am thinking she didn't go through with it and I have a terrible feeling she is going to go out and get pregnant again now that her money for Logan is gone. I will have to move to a bigger house if she does. Right now I have a 3 bedroom with four kids and I don't know where I would put another baby. I am going to hang onto things this time though until I know for a fact that she is fixed and can't get prego anymore. I gave away everything as Amanda outgrew it cause I didn't think I would be dealing with this issue again. I just keep praying God will keep her womb CLOSED!

Ah to shower or even go potty alone......

11-13-2005, 06:11 PM
Well we are back and it all went pretty good too. I found the wrist to wrist attachment for Dess and she actually thought it was kind of cool not to hold my hand and was like a big girl. Everyone marveled at all of Amanda's curls and Logan was a big hit and I had like 3 offers for them to take him home. What can I say, he is a charmer! Dennis was actually on time and I think Josh was nervous about him being late. It is so typical of him to be. Said dennis had until 1015 and I was loading and going. It was so nice to sit in church with grownups and of course the sermon was on something I felt God telling me-stop doing it on my own and let Him handle it. There isn't stress when you do it that way. So I had to admit that I needed to get out of the driver's seat again-besides God has many more years experience at it anyway so isn't it just smarter to let Him drive?? Ok now that I am finally home, I need to get some stuff picked up. Dr. tomorrow and some errends so mom will be here to watch the kids and I hate for her to do my housework. Will check back later

11-13-2005, 10:26 PM
We are back from France and I just read quickly thru the posts from the last 9 days. Thank you all for thinking of our safety during the riots. We were very aware and we stayed in touch with the news and away from the troubles. Our first 2 days were in Paris and we walked for miles and miles all over the gorgeous city. We went to the Louvre and the new Holocaust Memorial and in and out of crooked cobblestone streets. Food was fine. Monday we went to the Expo for our company and then spent time with our business associates. Tueday we rented a car and drove south thru little villages, stopping in some of the towns to look around. We continued South and arrived at a friend's in Provance Wednesday. We visited and toured the sites and sat in outdoor cafes and climbed on ruins and then headed back to Paris on Saturday and home today. It was a great trip.
I was fine with food till Wednesday when I fell off OP really hard. I am not going to beat myself up cause tomorrow is another day and I am 100% confident that I will be OP tomorrow and stay OP. I will hit the market tomorrow morning and get everything we need.
The good thing is that I looked better than I have in a long time and I didn't feel awful as I usually do when we travel-thanks to all of you and the fabulous support amongst us.
French women are really thin. I only saw one overweight woman. She was in her twenties, at least 100 lbs overweight and suprisingly, she was wearing what all the thin women wore, tight jeans, a skinny top, and a tight button down sweater. No big top for her.
Portions are very small in restaurants. I would be embarrassed to put such tiny amounts on a guest's plate, but I guess that they are correct cause they are thin and I am not.
Melissa-You are doing great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish I was closer so I could give you a hand.
Theresa- you might become the new Gypsy Rose Lee.
It's good to be back with all of you again.

11-14-2005, 04:04 PM
Laura, glad you are back and the trip sounds amazing! With all that walking I am sure you'll be fine.

Melissa, glad church went so well and you got what you need out of it. Save up that strength and positive mind set and you'll do wonderful.

Sandi, are you all better and back to exercise again? stressed out are you? Hang in there, you'll get the hang of being fit and healthy and it will be second hand before long.

This will be the first week since I have my exercise schedule worked out for the new routines, and I can't wait until Friday to see if it gets the scale moving consistently again.


11-14-2005, 04:58 PM
:carrot: Laura's back yay!
I am glad you had such a wonderful time and were able to avoid all the trouble over there. It sounded lovely and again i am so glad you were able to enjoy yourself.

:D Ok Theresa- you are getting me into trouble here... ;) :D Hubby is on the computer last night and said what were those DVD's your friend ordered?? and I said the star wars ??thinking he meant someone else and he said no the ones where you strip and exercise at the same time.. I'm like you just wanna watch Carmen on the DVD and he was NO-(she's too skinny) we had a good laugh and he said they may prove to be interesting...I am praying he DOES NOT order them for Christmas. I can see me opening them on Christmas day at the inlaws..... :faint: It would be just like him to do that..
I am glad you had a good morning Melissa- I my opinion it's better to be in the passenger seat at all times - it's just human nature to want to be in the drivers seat most of the time. Hope all went well at the dr's appt.

I am feeling better and tho queasy at times -not quite up to exercising normally yet- hope by Wednesday to be back at normal or even close to normal.
I have TWO pounds to lose by December... ONLY 2 POUNDS :rollpin: :censored: Why can't I get rid of 2 little pounds.... I know exercise more and eat less.. BUT these 2 pounds will not go away :tantrum: Ok I am done... Sorry had a bit of a :bomb: moment there... I don't know how people can do it.. It seems impossible to lose 35-40 pounds when i can't drop 2 little pounds... Ok really done this time I had to vent there - I really am going to take up a punching type exercise do they do tae bo for beginners? Hmmm must look up punching bag on ebay ;)
have a great afternoon everyone. see ya'll later.
Sandi :flow2:

11-14-2005, 06:20 PM
Well Dr was happy about the weight loss but according to her scale I have put on 10lbs since I got Logan. I just pray that some of that is water! I was there longer than I wanted to be because we had to have a debate on paps and mamograms-can you guess who was pro and who was con??? I am commited in Feb to the pap but not mamogram. I swear a man invented that one. I told her when men start doing it for testicular cancer she can count me in. I told her to that by Feb I should have at least another 20lbs gone and I might be more inclined to let her see me naked. I think she makes me come in just so she can get a good laugh but geez I am serious!

Glad glad glad you are back Laura and had such a great time. I so want to see that place someday and rome, venice, ireland, scotland, england, grand canyon-I have a big list. Felt so weird running errends without any kids with me. Was kind of nice too though. My mother didn't seem too frazzled when I got home and then Amanda and Logan went down for a nap. I should run out and rake leaves since it isn't raining. I will check in later.

Ice Princess
11-14-2005, 10:11 PM
I'm all moved in and unpakced and mostly organized. Yahhhhhhh
Havnt been real good op for about 2 weeks, eating has beeen pretty good but no exercise. I have been working crazy hours and not seeing much of my kids, might be a good thing LOL, so I am working on a plan for, not next week but the week after. November is shoot for me, well maybe not totally down the toilet but dam close. December will be a way better month and January will be even way better than December.
I'm glad to se every one doing so good mayeb it will help me and kick my nutt in to gear.
I did get the net back but its dial up, not to sure if i will like it but better than nothing.
Take care ladies.

11-14-2005, 10:42 PM
Well, I'm back OP after a really bad few days. I even ate airplane food on Sunday, which is so awful. The "snack" before landing was a sealed box, and inside was a tube of chips, 4 oreos, a little chocolate candy thing, 2 crackers with cheese and a little bag of yougert covered raisins. It was truly disgusting, unhealthy, all artificial, useless etc, and I ate it all, saying my old thing, -- I'll make up for it tomorrow. I should have thrown it all away. But anyway, I am back OP and I feel much better.
We didn't eat anything truly fabulous in France. It's very expensive and the one time we ate in a lovely former monastery in the country, I screwed up trying to read the menu. I though I was ordering fish, and instead I was given something almost alive, bloody, swimming in fat and surrounded by a mess of dimply yellow skin. Yuck. We did have a lovely meal in the South, but it was no better than a nice reataurant at home. Twice tho, we had tea and pastries in the afternoon and they were fabulous.
I have just discovered real fruit sherbert for dessert. Just 1 tablespoon of lemon is about 30 calories and it is very refreshing and satisfying. the problem of course is to limit it to once a day and not hear it calling from the freezer.

Let's all plan ahead for Thanksgiving. This is going to be the first year that I don't use it as an excuse to pig out. It is going to be planned and counted. I am thinking that it should be a 2000 calorie day so it won't be deprivation. Any ideas?

11-14-2005, 10:58 PM
Welcome back, Laura! Sounds like you had a wonderful trip!

Ice, getting moved and unpacked IS exercise! Hope you are settling in and enjoying your new home.

Melissa I'm sure some of that gain was water or just a difference in her scale from your scale. Don't let it bother you. Even if you DID gain that, you will take it right back off.

Sandi sorry to hear you've been sick again! Once you are able to get back to exercising I bet those 2 pounds will disappear before you know it.

Theresa sounds like you are doing great with exercise! Keep it up!

I am doing ok. I got a lot of exercise in with 30 minutes on the NordicTrack, 20 on the stationary bike, and about an hour and a half of cleaning and yardwork. I haven't really been stressed today, at least not about my maintenance plan...I am FREEZING and very whiny about the weather, however. It really turned cold on us this afternoon and we are in a winter storm watch for tomorrow so I'm not really looking forward to that. I absolutely love spring and summer here but the winters are a big pain.

11-14-2005, 11:36 PM
I was in such a mood earlier... Like pouting and all :tantrum: about the 2 pounds. I am so whiny and need to look ahead to what I will accomplish and what I have so far accomplished. I mean 4 months ago I would have :rofl: if I thought i'd drink so much h20 and eat things like oatmeal..
Kay- I'll gladly send you some of our warm weather- although it's supposed to get chilly over the weekend (chilly here is 55 to me) I am just so darn irritated over those last two pounds.
Laura- i hear stories about Airplane food or lack there of from so many people- my boss just came back from Brazil and he said they didn't even offer any food on the plane. and my french is so bad I prolly would have ended up with like cows brains or something on my plate- I am so glad you feel so good about being home and back OP

Ice - Get back on the exercise! :cheer: ( like I have room to talk ) Moving is so stressful -you can do it!
I panic evertime my hubby talks about moving somewhere else. maybe from my childhood - I was moved 24 times from ages 3 to 16- (it's a long story)

Melissa- Dr.'s scales lie- The only Dr. scale I like is my heart dr.'s they weigh you in a robe and take off 1 pound for it. I always go by the scale I weigh in on a consistant basis.

Theresa - i am gonna take a tip from you and write down an exercise routine. I always say I'll do it and I never do. I need to so i can see what i have to do on each day and check off each day as I do it.

My MIL called again and is being so great about Turkey day. I am going to plan my meal and stick to it. She said we'd plan a menu tomorrow and it would be good for everyone. I have already cut fat and calories from the GB casserole by planning to use lofat soup and skim milk. I will do breakfast here so that'll be good and make sure i have raw veggies to munch while helping to cook. DON'T EAT THE PIE CRUST- most of the calories/fat in the pies is in the crust.
This will be first year I also will NOT use this as an excuse to pig out either.
I am gonna get some sleep. I am tired tonight!
Have a great night all!

11-14-2005, 11:37 PM
I'm going to be in Ohio with my family for Thanksgiving, and right now I say I am committed and it won't be a temtation, but I don't know how I will feel when I get there and see all my family...I haven't seen them in over a year. I'm NOT going to use this as an excuse to get all emotional and eat like a pig...I"M NOT. I really, really hope I don't :^: My plan is to eat one plate of food and allow one very small slice of dessert, only if my mom makes lemon meringue....if she doesn't there won't be tempation in the desserts anyway! It's going overboard on the actual food that will be the test for me.

Melissa, I don't think that 10 lbs. is fat gain. You're adjusting to being a new mommy again (basically, you are!!!) and your body will go through some stress, then relax again. Don't worry over it, just stay OP as much as possible.

Ice, YAY :carrot: all moved in and online...lots of work there I'm sure, cut yourself a break.


11-15-2005, 06:45 AM
glad you had a good trip laura. that meal you accidentally ordered sounds truly disgusting. i thought french food was supposed to be good. uuuggghhh, blech!
congrats on getting moved in ice!
melissa, all scales are different. even if its accurate as far as your real weight, it doesn't reflect a loss or gain because you don't usually weigh on it, right? i don't trust any scale, but curiosity always gets the better of me.
well, i got back at dh today and got a tub of 100 cal/half cup frozen yogurt and boy was it good. i also found a great low cal cookie option.. chocolate mini-meringue cookies..yum!! 110 cals for 13 cookies!! how come no one told me about this before??
even so, i have been way to high on calories recently. not way overboard, but they have been slowly creeping up over the months. i started out with 1200 as my goal in june, and it has somehow creeped up "anything under 2000 is o.k." definitely not! i need to get back to 1600.. max! especially since i have been slacking on the gym.

11-15-2005, 10:34 AM
I'm wondering what kind of internet service you all use. We have Bellsouth Fastaccess DSL and it is anything but fast. It was at first, but all of a sudden it is really slow, just like dial up actually, and they seem unable to fix it. Their customer service is seriously talk and then there's this LONG pause like they are reading a book or something. Shouldn't they know enough to ask questions, run the tests, and fix the problem? Is following along a manual necessary? Everything they've done has been minor little fiddle things that fix NOTHING, then they just say that this speed is within the right range, so I have decided that it's too slow in that case :dizzy:

SO, what do you all use? How fast is it? What do you pay? All that good stuff.


11-15-2005, 10:42 AM
Good morning
It feels so good to be OP again. I am definately less stressed when I am OP which is the opposite of what I used to think-I need to eat when I am stressed. I think it's just the opposite. Feel stressed, eat, and feel worse. Overeating just reinforces feeling bad. Not only am I stressed over something, but then I make it worse by eating, so then it's stress and failure and general misery.
Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe eating when miserable takes the attention away from the misery and substitutes all the food issues, which are so familiar, instead.
Either way, overeating when stressed is not a good solution.
The weather here is cold and rainy and gloomy and I think I am thinking too much.

Re Thanksgiving- Maybe a good plan is to eat 1000 calories in the 3 days before and then 3000 on Thanksgiving. The hard part is to stop. I think being with family makes it harder to stay OP. Also I don't want questions or people noticing what I eat or don't eat.
All my kids will do the dinner at their in laws this year. Next year I will have them all. I have to take care of my mom and sister, so I might cook and bring it to my mom's. She is getting increasingly immobile and that might be the easiest thing, but very sad. My DH wants to take us all to a restaurant, which will make it even easier for me to stay OP, but just my mom and sister and DH in restaurant feels so depressing. We'll see.

11-15-2005, 02:39 PM
I have verizon dsl for my internet. You might want to check on your cookies and delete them frequently or possibly if you haven't for awhile do a defrag on your puter. I know when mine is going kind of slow, I delete cookies and things start purring again.

Thanksgiving: I am going to sit down and figure out all the points for everything and then eat like a brunch time with whatever is left over after the meal. I decided I was going to eat everything like normal-well not normal cause the portions will be smaller but I am going to have it all down to the pie. I have to try and cook smaller too since I don't want masses of leftovers hanging around. My SIL and his mom will be here the day after so I can foist some leftovers onto them. I didn't get a huge bird this year either. I ate so much last year I was practically sick. Anyway that is my plan for the day.

11-15-2005, 03:40 PM
Melissa-that's a good idea.
Maybe we should all think thru what we are going to do, post it by Monday, and consider doing it as a mini goal. If we all have a mini goal in mind, it might make it easier to get back OP right away. I know when I blow it, like at Thanksgiving, even a little bit, it turns into a big falling off. So this might be a good opportunity for a little planned falling off, followed by getting right back to OP, by Friday morning breakfast at the latest. Whatdaya think?

11-15-2005, 04:26 PM
I think it is a good idea. I am not going all fancy this year and will start checking points and getting it together between feedings, diapers and messy clean ups. I am hoping by the time company leaves on Friday, it will mainly just have some turkey. I may not though with the way my SIL eats-LOL of course he is 6ft 4 and has a hollow leg. Gravy is gonna be the hard one for me but I am determined to only eat what I allot myself and I will dump the rest down the sink if I have to.

11-15-2005, 04:50 PM
Argh! Dinner alone is 22pts and I have 24 a day and one of those will be my coffee....I kind of had to guess for my fruit salad and I probably added a point more than it actually is but I would rather be safe than sorry. I guess I will have a 1pt piece of fruit during the day. Man alive I never realized before how many calories are in that one meal. I saved 5 just by using the WW recipe for pumpkin pie rather than the norm. Normally it is 9 pts for pumpkin pie and the WW one is 4 so I am making that one for sure. On the upside I am doing all the cooking by myself so I will be busy so that should help. So that is the plan. 22pts for the meal and that was without eating a roll too. There is alot of starch in this holiday!

11-15-2005, 05:17 PM
Melissa-why n0t make it easier and haveless points MOnday Tuesday and Wednesday and use them on Thursday?

11-15-2005, 06:53 PM
I think I have figured out my internet problem! It's not moving slow on all sites, just some, so I think it isn't my DSL, but actualy the sites having problems? I do delete my cookies and internet files, every few days at least so they never collect.

I am not feeling so well today. I ate too much, but not of bad stuff, just too much of the OP stuff. It's dreary, drizzly and gloomy outside and I am dragging around with no energy and just wanting to drop in bed. I haven't done much of anything but play with the kids, sit on the couch watching Court TV, and eat. Yep, that is about it, though the kids have really enjoyed mommy taking a day off the house :lol: they love it when I just play with them and don't walk behind them cleaning up messes. I did do some minor pick up this evening, and attempted laundry but I am out of detergent and didn't realize it until too late. I'll be okay because I"m not hungry for supper tonight, so the second lunch I ate at 3PM can be counted for that and I'm okay on calories that way ;)

I have no suggestions for your Thanksgiving point delimma, Melissa. My goal for the day is to not get to the overstuffed, popping the jeans button open, point. I will eat until I am satisfied and content, then STOP. That is the plan. If I am hungry later I will have a little plate of leftovers, and if I'm not then I won't. We normally don't eat before the big meal because we are so busy preparing it...and my sister is the only one bad about picking during that process :p


11-15-2005, 10:35 PM
we use plain old Netzero high speed cause we don't have DSL available in this section of town. Of course our computer is 5 years old - we are getting a new one in Feb. We are on the "if we can't pay cash we aren't buying it " system now.

Melissa- can you use any activity points to add to your day?? banking points works too-

Our turkey day menu reads like a novel- ham and turkey, mashed potatotes and sweet potatoes, 4 kinds of veggies, tossed salad, stuffing, 6 types of rolls/muffins /breads, gravy, and cranberry sauce- along with pickles, olives, pies, cakes, ice cream ...etc..I don't like MIL's stuffing so thats all good for me- gravy IS NOT MY FRIEND- so i will eat more veggies, salad and turkey .
:( the breads will be my weakness- I am looking for a lo-cal roll.. I wonder if i can find frozen lo fat rolls to bake?? HMMM must look up pillsbury products. MIL called and we made sure i would be ok with the menu and i am sitting next to FIL and he is on a heart smart diet so no one will notice if I don't pig out. No one in that family cares anyway who eats what-they are pretty cool. FIL even offered to go for a walk with me after dinner..I won't have leftovers- that is good and I plan to use my points for the day. I haven't been doing WW but now i saw that when i did do points I lost weight so... I am going to try it over the holidays and see what happens.

:carrot: I am determined that if I do eat too much I will not beat myself up and move on to Friday and get back OP again. :carrot: I will not allow that to "give" myself permission to give up and go back to my old days and old ways.

we always put up the tree on Friday after Thanksgiving ( too many allergies in this family for a real tree) we never go shopping - it's like a family tradition to refuse to go into the crowded stores! My hubby is so Mr. perfection about the tree- (he co ordinates colors, ornaments and makes bows for the tree..) and we decorate the yard etc..

11-15-2005, 10:51 PM
Well I am just not going to go crazy about it. Just a little bit of everything and then stop and have no more. I will probably start decorating the outside ect after Thanksgiving but holding off on the tree till about the 15th or so. I have to put it in a playpen to keep the kids from pulling it over and taking all the decorations off and the playpen worked really well last year. Logan won't be an issue unitl next christmas. I thought that maybe this year would be last I would use the playpen but now it is going to be at least 2 more yrs, possibly 3 depending on how busy Logan is.

11-16-2005, 05:43 AM
sometimes my dsl is good and sometimes it is slow. usually its ok, and the slow times might be my computer, which is nothing fancy. i have sbc yahoo dsl. considering how cheap it is, it is lightning fast i guess. lol. my mommy pays for it.
i am so proud of myself. it is not even thanksgiving and i already christmas presents for all my female friends/fam done! i am getting everyone chinese mary janes. so cute and the price is right :) i tried to ask dh about the shoes for both sils (both are picky) but he was so not interested. well if they don't like hip, comfy shoes, that is not my prob. talk to the hand i say.
did way better on calories today. i have a new commitment to stay at 1200-1600, including 200 cal max for ice cream per day and set days (4!) for the gym. missed today though because dh is sick. well at least i didn't blow my calories. grrrr.
have y'all heard of these low-cal pumkin fluffernuggets? saw them on this site and another as well. i think i will make those in lieu of pie. hopefully they will be a hit with my calorie-aware sils.

11-16-2005, 07:43 AM
Laura B, welcome back!!! Sounds like your trip was great, glad you were safe and still got to see so much.

Melissa and Theresa, I put your DVDs in the mail Tues. Let me know how it goes with them.

Ahhh, the Thanksgiving Day menu!! Our traditional meal has Turkey and gravy, 3 types of stuffing, corn souffle, pepper cabbage, sweet potato souffle, pineapple filling, carrot relish, cranberry chutney, christmas jello, ambrosia, green beans, & homemade rolls, then it's on to the desserts. That table has a cookie plate filled with different homemade cookies, pumpkin roll, pumpkin pie, mincemeat pie, bookbinders apple pie, carrot cake, and chocolate cheesecake.
I keep thinking I left something out!!!! My Mom is truly something else when it comes to the holidays, she insists on doing most of it herself, although she has started to let us bring some of the dishes these last few years. She makes everything from scratch. I guess it will be a no guilt day for the most part, although I'll try to stay away from the higher calorie dishes.

Congrats to all those who are OP and losing!! I fell off the wagon sometime in October and haven't been able to get back on track since. I get very frustrated with myself, but am still battling fatigue and severe lack of energy.
Sometimes I get overwhelmed by everything going on here and find myself eating to feel better, of course when I realize what I did, I feel worse!!! Maybe it's just having a birthday, anniversary, and Thanksgiving all in one week. I always have a tough time with the holidays.

Hope everyone has a great week (what's left of it!!)
Back to bed for me, I have to work tonight.


11-16-2005, 12:12 PM
I feel very much in danger today of falling off. I have already had about 600 calories and it's only 11 AM. I am in a slow week doing work while some decisions are being made. DH is leaving tomorrow for 4 days and I am dreading being alone with very little work. I am whining.
I am going to leave the house and go see the traveling display, Eyes Wide Open, 2000 pairs of soldier's boots set up in a church to honor our dead as well as make the losses more real. It's only here for a day and a half. As depressing as it is, I do think I owe it to our soldiers to show up.
Be back later.

11-16-2005, 09:33 PM
It is good to pay respect to those brave people who fight for our freedoms and safety. I know it is hard to be alone. Even though I now have 4 kids, I go through that myself. While I am busy and try to stay busy, it gets boring just cleaning and chasing kids all the time. I haven't gotten much done today because I think Logan is working on teeth and he has been really fussy all day long. He finally is playing in his saucer but I am not sure how long that will last and Dess has been a little under the weather today and I just noticed Amanda's nose is running. I am not really looking forward much to Thanksgiving because it will just be us and I really miss those large family gatherings we used to have. They were always so much fun for me. Don't be hard on yourself Laura.

11-16-2005, 09:36 PM
So how did you do today, Laura? :hug: I hope you are feeling better. I know it is hard when the men go away sometimes, but at least we never go away, we are always here! I know, I know, not much comfort, but I tried.

:lol: Melissa, the playpen tree is a great idea! Wish I had thought of that last year.

Misty, thanks for sending the dvd and I will let you know when I receive it. My friend will just be tickled about it! She's recovering and has been sick for a long time, so this should really help her tone up and work on her endurance, what she needs most right now. Sorry you are off the wagon, but it will be even harder to get back on over the your best but don't beat yourself up over it. There's nothing like the New Year to refocus on goals...and hey, you already have a huge headstart!

Cadwell, if they don't like the shoes you can send them my way :D Your plans sound great, keep reporting as you follow them and before long it will all be natural routine.

We normally decorate the day after Thanksgiving, but since we'll be in Ohio it'll have to wait until we come home. Allie is all excited about putting the star on top of the tree,but I know Ty is going to be jealous and want to do it too, so we are going to get a smaller ornament angel and let him hang it real high.

Sandi, whether you fall off or not it is NOT back to the old have to come back to us and we will steer you right, we promise!

I spent the day buying a van (not fun) becaus the explorer broke down AGAIN and it was going to be over $600 to fix it this time, and hubby can't do this one, so we decided enough is enough, get something new. It wasn't going to make it to Ohio anyway, so we got a 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport, low mileage and VERY nice, I love it...until we called the insurance they jumped almost $100 a month on our rate :mad: but it's okay, we needed it. Other than that I am doing well.

:carrot: I CAN'T WAIT TO GO TO OHIO! CAN'T WAIT! :carrot: my mom is calling every day just all giggly and excited, it's been over a year since I've seen her and I simply can't wait. I am not even putting make up on that day, because I will just wear it off with tears.


11-16-2005, 09:44 PM
:hug: :hug: Melissa, I know how you feel because the last 2 years we stayed here in NC for Thanksgiving and I listened to my family on the phone in Ohio, all together having a blast, my mom and sister cooking together, and I hung up and just cried and cried. Hubby's family doesn't really do much for this holiday, so they made this little tiny meal and the only kids there were mine and MIL and mawmaw were picking and complaining and it just wasn't the same. I missed my huge family get together and all my family being so happy and was more miserable to be with the in laws then to just be home with hubby and kids alone...but either was a bad feeling. :hug: :hug: You are Strong and you will get through it. I believe in you. And remember, this will pass as all things do.

Plus, you have SO much to be thankful for this year, just think of it. You have Logan, safe from that horrible world he was living in, and he's thriving and you have all the other kids there with you. CHerish that, because they are so precious. Make the day special for them and know you are doing your best.

I will be in your boat come Christmas. SInce I want nothing to do with MIL I told hubby he can take the kids over to her place Christmas Eve and I'm going to cook Christmas here for us on Christmas Day. I have never made a dinner like that so it will probably be horrible and it will jsut be us and I'll be sad not to be home...but I'll get through it, and so will you!


11-16-2005, 10:15 PM
I made it through the day without falling off. I am at about 1300 calories. I skipped lunch and made a huge salad for dinner, greens and cooked brussel sprouts and string beans and feta cheese and some turkey sausage and a little bit of cooked barley. Sounds weird, but it was really good.
The Eyes Wide Open display was shocking. 2069 pairs of army boots lined up on church pews by state, each one tagged with a soldier's name and age. Some of their families sent photos, silk flowers, stories, or mementos to tuck into the boots. There were also hundreds of pairs of shoes belonging to dead Iraquis, children, women, tiny ones and photos. It was all so simple, but so real.

11-17-2005, 02:16 AM
Hi all!
Another one of my sporadic check-ins! :dizzy: We are all moved in(such a pain!) but I still haven't gotten a new computer :mad: hubby keeps promising, but then the money has to go somewhere else-oh well!
Thanksgiving plans-This wonderful (NOT) new house we have moved into has a NON-working oven so I am not cooking anything! We are going to the casino with hubbys brother and having dinner. There are SO many good sides to that!!! No cooking, no clean up :carrot: , and NO LEFTOVERS!!! So it should be a pretty OP day! Christmas will be different, the oven will be fixed, my oldest daughter and son and my inlaws will all be here. Thats when I will really struggle!! I have 8 pounds to go to be at 50 gone, I am really hoping to be there by Christmas, and I don't want to gain any back! I think I should start planning the menu now. FIL is borderline diabetic so he don't care what I change, if he can eat it, he's happy!

Laura- I would have cried through the whole church! Glad you had a good time in Paris-except for the little food translation problem! When we saw the problems over there on the news after you left I told hubby I hoped you weren't anywhere near that!

Theresa-Those videos sound like fun! My hubby would love for me to do something like that, I am so shy though, I don't think I could do it? Keep it up!

Melissa- :hug: I wish we were coming up for Tday, you could bring all the kids and have dinner with us! I am used to having lots of people too, so it wouldn't be a problem. Maybe next year! Or we could all go on our cruise for Tday next year????? ;)

Internet service? I am on the slowest computer in the world, with the slowest dial up in the world, this thing could not go any slower unless it froze-and it does that more than once a day :mad: :mad: Hopefully when I get my new one I can also get faster service :?:

I'm still going to Curves-missed a week and a half during moving- and keep forgetting to get my monthly weight and measurements. Their computer got a virus and won't be up and running for at least another week, so it didn't remind me! I guess I will just wait until the 5th of next month. I don't expect to see anything amazing, but maybe if I really start working my butt off it will surprise me? :crossed:

Well, time for bed! I'll try to get back in soon!


11-17-2005, 07:58 AM
theresa, i envy you getting to go visit your family over thanksgiving. i always loved thanksgiving with my family when i was growing up and the past three years have not been the same :( it is really going to be strange to cook all by myself.
today was another great op day :) but why is it that i still feel huge and gross? usually when i am op really well, i feel great, but not these days. i am really thinking i will not make my november goal. darn.

11-17-2005, 12:17 PM
I wish you were coming up too Kathy! Chirstmas Day it will just be me and Logan since Josh will be with Dennis and the girls will be with the other side of the family. We get up Christmas Eve like it is Christmas Day that way both sides get the benefit of "christmas morning". I may head over and spend the day with mom and dad or my aunt and uncle since it will just be me and the baby. The scale went down 2 so now just 2 more and I got rid of my "baby" weight lol. Lots of housework to do today since Logan was having issues yesterday and I spent most of the day holding him.

11-17-2005, 02:29 PM
Good morning
I am thinking about going one dementional for 4 days since DH won't be here and I don't have to worry about him. I am going to make a gigantic salad with lots of raw and cooked veggies, some turkey sausage, feta cheese, grated cheddar cheese and anything else I can find, and eat that for all 3 meals till Monday. I will eat apples for a snack. It will allow me to eat a lot, but not alot of calories and very little time in the kitchen once I've prepared it. I can clean the kitchen up and barely mess it up again for 4 days and I like that too.

11-17-2005, 03:55 PM
Hey everyone! Not much time here, but wanted to pop in and read what everyone is up to. I was so surprised this AM because the scale was down another pound even though I was seriously bloated! Looks good for WI tomorrow AM ;) I'm telling ya, these new exercise videos have really gotten me going. If I lose 2 weeks in a row I'll be amazed. I guess my theory that I wasn't working hard enough in those workouts was correct.


11-17-2005, 07:18 PM
Just want to THANK YOU suzette-they arrived today and I can't wait to try them out. I bet I can even get the kids into the action.

Man it is doing me no good to track the hungry week before TOM. I started a week early and no wonder I was having such a hard time last week. Premeno sucks and I can't wait to finally be shed of TOM forever!

I will be sporatic since all the kids except Josh and Logan have runny noses. Logan is just drooly and cranky as I do believe those two bottom teeth are just trying to break through. Amanda who is probably my lowest maintanence kid has just been over the top today and she is starting again here so will try and check in later

11-17-2005, 09:38 PM
Nope Kathy I have the world's slowest 'puter :lol:
Whoo HOO Theresa- WAY TO GO! :carrot: I hope you have a great time visiting with family.
LAura- Oh I would have cried thru the church. and your salad sounds yummy- I need to get some apples as they are in season and pretty cheap right now. Oranges I get free from people who have groves in the area - it seems every week i get a big bag of navels.
Melissa I agree- I think that things should just go away after having the last child. I am so irritated with the bloating and early PMS and then it shows up late or early... GRRR :mad: I did find some natural stuff that helped but I keep forgetting to take it so...

OK I am bad- I have NOT exercised for 3 days -my eating has been less than good - even bad ... I don't know what's wrong I am in a good mood- a bit "witchy" today- dealing with scam artists who just aren't nice this time of year. I hear every sob story that you can think of and 98% of them are so untrue. It makes it hard to know who really needs help and who is hitting every charity in town. We have a system to see if anyone is abusing but they sneak thru. I just don't feel like putting forth the effort to try and exercise and eat right - kinda emotional too- My Nana's B-day would have been Monday and then Turkey day with her gone is not gonna be i guess i am more emotional than normal.

tomorrow gets even better- I am helping with the school fundraiser in the a.m. and that happens to be selling the "d"word- dozens and dozens of "D" words- I don't know if they have Krispy Kremes where ya'll are but they will be fresh & hot at 8:00 a.m. AAARGH I love the "D" words...
I WILL NOT EAT ONE -it'll be hard But I will NOT eat the bad "d" word

Have a great night all -
Sandi :dizzy:

11-18-2005, 08:17 AM
:carrot: I lost not one, not two...but THREE pounds this week :carrot: I about had a heart attack and had to reweigh several times before I believed it. I feel it as well, but usualy the scale doesn't back up how I feel :lol: I am just SO excited. I waited all those months wondering why I couldn't lose every week and all along I just needed a more harsh exercise program.

BUT THREE POUNDS!!! I have never done that in one week before!

Sandi, YOU CAN OVERCOME THE D WORD!!!! You are strong, girl! I do understand, it is so hard when you're dealing with raw emotions like that. Try thinking about the feelings and getting through them, you need to heal, and do your best while working through it. Remember, the "d" will not heal you...only you can do that in your own way with time. Just don't fall off and quit completely, and you'll be FINE.

Allie's preschool class is singing to the parents today, so I have to face refreshments of who knows what sort. I am going to stick something healthy in my purse though.


11-18-2005, 02:48 PM
i am so bitter. i caught whatever dh had and now i am really sick. i kept on waking up with chills and coughing. grrr. i haven't been sick in a long time and i thought i would be able to avoid it with healthy eating and exercise. well i guess that didn't work. probably it's going to be awhile before i can get back to the gym. i think i am at a plateau. my weight has been pretty much the same for over a week.

11-18-2005, 02:50 PM
Hey Suzette, I got the DVD today....thank you so much! I'll be visiting my friend this weekend to give her some clothes for her little girl, so I will give it to her then...she's already excited about it though!

I didn't eat anything at the preschool. It was just cookies and chips so wasn't very hard to overlook. I just busied myself doting all over Allie and giving her special attention, since I rarely have time just with her.

I want to ask all the mommies here if my little girl is normal, or if something is wrong with her. Seriously! Several little girls in her class ran up to her as we were leaving, waved and said "Bye Allie! Bye!" and she just stared at them and turned to walk out. I told her to tell them bye and she just refused, gave them a stare and walked out. I kind of asked her "Don't you want them to be your friends?" once we were alone in the van and she said yes and I explained that she has to tell them bye and talk to them, etc. or maybe they won't want to be her friend.

Is this normal? WHy would she treat these kids so mean? These are the kids she talks about at home and says she wants to invite to her birthday party, yet she treated them like they didn't exist :?: Is there something wrong with my daughter????


11-18-2005, 02:54 PM
:hug: sorry you don't feel well Cadwell. Get better and then you can worry about busting that plateau.

11-18-2005, 03:12 PM
She may have just been overwhelmed by the whole affair and got too much stimulation by it. The thing I would do is watch and see if this is occuring consistantly and when it does happen, gently remind about good manners and polite and kind to others. I have a niece and nephew who are like that all the time but in their case it is because their mother never makes them say hello or has taught them manners. I think your little girl just might have been overwhelmed by the whole deal. I wouldn't worry about it. Little kids just get shy sometimes and they don't have the experience level yet to deal with it is all.

Feel better Caldwell. Sick is no fun.


11-18-2005, 05:44 PM
Cadwell- Sorry to hear you caught a bug. The good part is that this week is NOT Thanksgiving and you will be fine by then.
Theresa-Don't worry about your little girl. If she ignored the other kids all the time, they would not have been running over to her. I think it's just a case of reminding her to be polite to the other kids.
I am still in my veggies and fruit mode and it's going good, but tonight I am going to dinner and the movies with friends so I will have to be really careful. This is such a hard time of year and it's ok to fall off for special days, but not for the movies and Chinese food. I do need to go out tonight cause DH is away and I do need to see friends.
My son and DIL visited her mom last night and stayed over and were unable to bring their 10 week old puppy, Zena, to her house, so they dropped her off here last night. She is the sweetest thing and it makes me want a puppy, but then I remember the chewing and being tied down and I get sensible. Those days are over. We were out walking at 5 AM, and that's not my favorite time to be up and outside. So my son can keep his puppy and I will be a happy visitor.

11-18-2005, 06:05 PM
I am waiting for MIL to pick up Allie to spend the night and I'm not a very happy camper. Of course, I will smile and be polite because it hurts the children to see anything else, but really I feel like slamming the door in her face. She was supposed to take both kids, then called hubby and said she only wants to take Allie :mad: She has done this special treatment thing since before Ty was even born, when we use dto go to her house she outright ignored him half the time and treated Allie like a princess...the root of why we don't go over to visit on weekends anymore, I won't have my son treated that way! Especially now that he's getting old enough to feel left out. When hubby asked what about Tyler, she said oh, she'd take him next weekend....well, we won't be here and she KNOWS that! She said she'll take him when we get back on her half day the next week....yeah, she will probably not come get him, as usual. If she does, then neither of them will be going with her anymore, it just isn't fair to Tyler!

Okay, enough venting! She said she'd be here "after work" which could be 8 or 9PM with her. I have only had a salad all day and am starving, waiting for chicken to boil so I can strip it down and put on some BBQ sauce and bake it a bit...going to be awhile.

Laura, you are great to take the puppy! A walk at 5AM may not be fun, but it is execise, right?

Melissa, Allie is shy and I knew she was nervous about the singing part, but this was after all that when most of the people were gone and we were walking out, so I just didn't expect it. I have taught her manners, but I never imagined I had to teach her to say bye! I thought that was natural.

11-18-2005, 06:19 PM
For Ty I would do something very special with him tonight-some activity that he adores to help take the sting out. Make it a special time instead. It is hard when that stuff happens. My ex MIL is like that too. She fawns all over my SIL kids and BIL too and acts like she can't stand to be in the same room with Josh so I know it is really hard. Personally, if it continues, I just wouldn't do it anymore at all. It is so not fair to the kids.

It sounds for Allie like it was nerves and shyness and I wouldn't worry about it. We have to teach our kids absolutely everything-one of the reasons why it is such a tough job raising kids. I know you teach them manners-you can tell just by the way you are here on the board. Thoughtful, considerate, and you really care for others which your kids see and that is how they learn. Shy is so hard and hopefully she will outgrow some of it as she gets older but she sounds like a delight and you are doing a great job.

11-18-2005, 09:53 PM
MIL showed up and Allie went running to give her a hug, then stepped back and said she didn't want to go! I asked her 3 times if she was sure, and she said she did not want to go. So, I sent Tyler instead. Soon as I had his coat and shoes on she changed her mind again and said she wanted to go. I told her it was too late, Tyler was all ready to go. MIL said she "couldn't" take both and I looked right at her and said "Tyler has been told he's going...and he's going, or neither of them are." I Smiled but I know Allie at least caught the tension in the air at that moment. I hate for them to experience it, but it was said calmly and she just nodded and took Tyler. She spent a very long time holding Allie and explaining over and over that she would come get her soon as she gets back from Ohio, until I cut that off and ushered her to the door.

There was NO WAY I was taking his coat off and telling that boy he couldn't go afterall...I cannot and will not do that to my children. So, Tyler is with them and Allie and I spent some time painting and eating ice cream...I had 1/2 cup of Light, 100 calories and 3.5 g fat, not bad for a special time with her. And Tyler finally gets to go with MIL alone...this has NEVER happened before.

Oh, she did call hubby on his cell when she left here and actually said she thinks I told Allie that she couldn't go or something. Hubby laughed at her and said that I would love for her to take both so I could have a night off, and he gurantees I didn't tell her to back out. Why would I do that? THis woman is just off her rocker.


11-18-2005, 10:16 PM
I am so glad it all turned out and you did the right thing by making Allie stick to choice. It is never to early to start teaching cause and effect for kids. Way kewl you had some special time with the little guy too!

The girls are still both runny nosed and bless mom's heart she made a diaper run for me. I was just figuring out that I go through about 240 diapers a month with both kids! Logan is now sitting up on his own now and makes it for about 15 minutes so that is good progress. He scoots himself in circles too. I so want to see Chronicles of Narnia next month but I haven't figured out how I will manage that one. They had previews when I took Josh to starwars and just the previews made me cry-ok ok I am a sentimental schmoe-I fully admit it. I can't wait to get these Lemony Snicket books done so I can start the Chronicles with Josh. I remember reading them when I was a kid and I absolutely loved them.

I promised Josh we would make some cookies so I better get started before I am too tired. I got two movies and I want to watch them too when the kids go to bed.

11-18-2005, 11:04 PM
Cookies...mmmm...I am going into the monthly cycle, hitting that bad period and just in time for Thanksgiving of course :dz: I have been a good girl today and just had the 1/2 cup ice cream and nothing else...and not a lick more. I lost too much this last week to undo it...we'll see how long that attitude holds up :lol:

I bet Logan is adorable, when they scoot in circles there's no way a mommy can't smile. You are his mommy now, so you have the right to the adorations and smiles.


11-18-2005, 11:43 PM
Yeah I got thrown off bad starting a week early. Between Thanksgiving and all the babyfood kind of whacked out my budget so I broke down and made some. I sent you pics of the kids too. Other grandma will be coming up the first part of next month and going with me to get the kids pics done professionally. Amanda hasn't had hers done since she was born. I have lots of others I have taken but none done professionally so I am breaking down next month and doing it. All 4 kids together! I forgot to tell you earlier congrats on the loss!

11-19-2005, 06:26 AM
theresa, congrats on the loss! it is nice to see all that hard work pay off, esp. this time of year. your mil sounds like a real witch.. it is not right for adults to play favorites with children as if they were just like friends you can pick and choose. tyler is young now but if she keeps this up when he's older he won't even want to go with her.
i narrowly avoided getting into one of those holiday season family drama-ramas and i am so relieved the problem solved itself. my friend has been planning to go the the premiere of a movie for some time and they changed the date to thanksgiving so she wanted to come up here and see it with me and have thanksgiving dinner. i thought that was a swell idea until i told dh and he pointed out with my friend and one sil being together would be a real problem. they don't get along all that well.. totally sil's fault too. my friend ended finding a showing in s.d. after all (at first it would be l.a. and n.y. until friday), and i am going down there as originally planned. whew! why can't people just get along?? or, why can't sil just be polite and not so durn judgemental. sigh. just the thing i want to worry about when i am dying of this god-awful bug.

11-19-2005, 08:55 AM
Sorry you got the dreaded evil cold bug Candace- cold bugs bite- and holiday dramas bite too- why can't people just get along and be nice to each other even if they don't like each other?
Theresa WHOO HOO on your weight loss- that is awesome. I guess i should take a tip from you and EXERCISE :p: Way to go with the MIL - she sounds like a lovely lady (NOT) bless you for having to put up with her.
Melissa- I can't wait to see Narnia either. My youngest is reading the lion the witch and the wardrobe now and she loves it. I have to help with some of the big words but she can't wait to see it either. I loved all the books-
We were supposed to go see the new Harry Potter Sunday but that's not going to happen as we had to get a new water pump for the truck -thank goodness DH can work on the truck so the cost won't be too bad but still another bill we didn't expect.
My house is a mess- just stuff all over and i feel it is a wreck. Since I can't go anywhere today I am cleaning, cleaning, cleaning like scrubbing cleaning and shampooing the carpet cleaning-BUT i will exercise today even if I don't feel like it.
AND I DID NOT EAT ANY "D" WORDS- We sold 158 boxes (12 to a box) of those things and i didn't eat a one of them. maybe looking at the calorie count and fat grams did it for me and i was afraid once i started I wouldn't stop eating them. Not saying I didn't want to eat one , two three.... But i didn't.
Have a good day all!
Sandi :dizzy:

11-19-2005, 03:03 PM
Good for you Sandi, resisiting the Ds. When I hear that one of us can resist, it makes it easier for me when temptation rears it's sweet head.
I saw the George Clooney movie about Edward R Murrow last night. It's excellent. First we ate in a nice Chinese restaurant which was not in my plans, but I did ok with seafood and veggies, pineapple and 1 fortune cookie.
My friend Marion, who hasn't seen me in 3 weeks, was just here and she made a big fuss that I looked good and soon I will weigh nothing etc etc. That's dangerous for me, so I have to be careful and not fall off.

11-19-2005, 03:50 PM
:cheer: yay Sandi! I knew you were strong enough to resist the Ds...that is a huge accomplishment, great job.

Laura, shake off the compliments and refocus on yourself and how you're feeling. That's the reason you're doing this, what others say doesn't matter. FOcus on YOU YOU YOU and forget the rest. Easier said than done, I know!

Cadwell, family drama sucks big time. MIL is not happy we are going to Ohio but I could care less, she complains to hubby not me so who cares :lol:

Melissa, the pictures will be gorgeous! Not so much fun getting them taken I'm sure, but the product will be worth it. WHen we get home from this trip I will be busy getting ready for Christmas, which includes buying the kids outfits and doing the pictures as well. WHen I first had Allie, I had her in for pictures every 3-4 weeks, but then Tyler came and now it's usually just the major holidays. Funny how things change when #2 comes around.

I had a small tootsie roll today, but otherwise doing well. Spent the day with my friend, gave her that dvd from Suzette and a whole ton of clothes Allie has outgrown. Being at her house helped me not to think about food, but now I am home and just trying to avoid the kitchen. It's laundry day, so I have to keep going in there which doesn't help :^:

11-19-2005, 04:41 PM
My daughter showed up with her loser boyfriend today stating they were there to visit Logan and were cleared to do so. I didn't let them. They also couldn't produce the papers stating they had visitation either. Her BF got a little hostile with me and that guy scares me to tell you the truth. My daughter is like well can I at least say hi to my daughter?? Like I haven't allowed her to. She looks terrible too. She has lost too much weight and dyed her hair blond. I called and left a message with the caseworker and please guys just pray like crazy that I don't have to give him back. It would so kill me to have to do that. Her BF is scary. Need to load dishes and clean sink before Logan wakes up. He is the only one left to bathe.

11-19-2005, 06:37 PM
Melissa-No court in the world is going to give Logan back to her. Remember where he was when they phoned you to come for him and think of how he has thrived. The caseworker is on your side too. I hope you have the advise of a good lawyer. I think that's important. We had a nightmare adoption for our 3rd child. The birth mother came back 6 months later, but she had a big substance abuse problem and had no way to make a home, just as Kate cannot provide for her children, even with help. Eventually she had her rights terminated and we adopted but it was a long horrible 2 years. I shutter when I remember. Now my baby is all grown up, gorgeous looking, smart, funny and most of the time, a joy. You will have that with all 4, including Josh, who will find his place in the world cause he has you to guide him.
I hope I'm not too mushy, but I have very strong feelings that every child must have a good home and someone who lights up when they enter the room. Kate cannot do that for her kids and you can.

11-19-2005, 06:50 PM
I don't have an attorney-no money for it but I wish I did so I wouldn't have to deal with anything. She couldn't show me the papers that said she had visitation and funny if she was cleared why would she need visitation rights? And really her boyfriend has no right at all to see Logan. He is not the father or married to my daughter either-he is just creepy. I think once again she was trying to pull the wool over my eyes and if she thought she would get away with it or not. Well she didn't. I am hoping Enrique' calls me first thing Monday morning because I really want to make sure Logan stays here with me. It took almost a year to get everything taken care of with the girls and my own daughter even called the cops on me once because I had them. It just broke my heart to see her looking so awful. She said she had been sick-uhuh-drugs more likely and she really wouldn't look me in the eye either. I also got paperwork from support enforcement looking for Kate for child support and a medical coupon came for Logan also so it just further proves she was full of poodoo and seeing what she could get away with. Bugs me that she thought she could just come over without calling first and that I would just drop everything and even wake Logan up. Kid has guts.

11-19-2005, 07:37 PM
Melissa- Does she have the right to see the girls anytime she wants?
I'm sorry she is such a mess.
Lawyers are so expensive. I swear they charge for the tissue if you blow your nose. Sometimes tho, they do a free consultation. It's good that the social workers are on your side. Also, write it all down, everything that happened today. Keep a record on all contacts Kate makes with the kids so she can't BS anyone.
I know what you are going thru and how you have to hold it together for everyone.

11-19-2005, 07:46 PM
Yeah I documented it and then my Dad called and was telling me to call the cops. Told him I already planned on it if she showed up again. She was supposed to see the girls on Sunday and Wednesday from 430-730 but she hasn't called or come to see them for like 6 months. Never came for either of their birthdays or called them but now too with the situation the way it is I wouldn't allow her visitation with the girls either with Logan in the house. I am just so sick and tired of all the garbage and stupid people who can't get their crap together and then I am left to take care of everyone and everything too. I also found out that she never got Logan a social security number either. She actually said to me so what if she never got Logan his shots-like it is no big deal. Ugh I am so sorry to vent ect but I am just at my wits end here with the stupid people.

11-19-2005, 07:55 PM
It sounds like Kate's life is a mess and the children are not in her plans. Why would she be able to get Logan when she hasn't bothered with the girls. Also, a court won't break up a sibling group. She hasn't paid attention to the girls even when she could so I think you should try not to worry about losing Logan. He is a lovely baby and you are doing everything right.

11-20-2005, 12:24 AM
Melissa, make sure you lock your doors and keep safe okay? If the boyfriend is that creepy, maybe you should not even open the door to them anymore? Just call the police since they are not supposed to be there. Make sure you tell the case worker that she looked like she's on drugs and that the boyfriend scares you...make a point that you wouldn't want Logan around that man. Gosh, think of what a role model someone like that would be! This baby deserves SO much more and thank God he has you to stand up and fight for him. I don't see how they could give him back to her, it would not make any sense to me at all.

:hug: hang in there and keep in touch here, if you disappear I'll be worried sick.


11-20-2005, 12:26 AM
hey, is there any way you can force your daughter into rehab or something? If she's this into drugs she's probably not even thinking straight. She needs to get off whatever she's doing or her life is never going to come back together. I know she's frustrating right now, but I wonder if there is a way to force someone into rehab??? MIght be nothing there, but it was a thought.


11-20-2005, 01:01 AM
I know they are making her do a drug and alcohol assessment-I have no idea what all that entails and I know they will want to do surprise UA's also. I just wish she would get away from that guy so much. There is no way I am allowing him over for a visit-he has no legal right too and I don't want him around me let alone my kids. I suppose legally Jason could do it since they are still legally married although seperated-I will just be glad when Monday gets here and I can talk to the social worker about this stuff and see what my options are.

11-20-2005, 03:59 AM
Melissa, I'm so sorry to hear the trouble your daughter is causing. You did the right thing, better to err on the side of caution. No one can fault you for looking after the best interests of the children. Maybe you could look into legal aid if you find you need an attorney? Our prayers are with you, I told DH about what you are doing for your grandchildren, he was so touched that you care, (his mother dropped him off at various relatives for months at a time when he was little). Don't worry about sounding off here, that's what we are here for!!!!

Cadwell, I hope you get feeling better soon, no fun being sick during the holidays.

Congrats Theresa on the pounds lost!!! Some times it just takes a little shake up in the routine to get your body losing again. Keep up the good work.

LauraB, Take the compliments as well earned and deserved, just like you would do for a job well done at work. You deserve it, you've worked hard at something that is very difficult and are suceeding.

I see Melra is once again among the missing, sounded like she has been very busy lately.

I don't mean to leave anyone out, I just can't keep up with 2-3 days of posts. congrats to all for staying OP and keep on losing!!!

We've had a full month of Dr & Dentists here. Once again my blood pressure has become resistant to my meds so it's time to change them around again. This new one is causing a lot of flluid retention in my face so I guess I'll have to try something else.
It is frustrating to have to go through this every 6 months. My BP is an inheritied problem, it was high even when my weight was 124. I was hoping this med would work, it is cheaper than some of the others. Oh well, back to the Doc I go.

I want to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving as I probably won't get to post until after the holiday.
This is a very busy week, my 11 year anniversary, my 46th birthday, & Thanksgiving!!!
It's a happy, depressed, and happy week!!!
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone, have a wonderful day, be safe if you are traveling.


11-20-2005, 01:45 PM
Thank you all for your support. I can't tell you how much it is appreciated. Josh was up in the night sick so now I have 3 out of 4 ill. I have been up since about 4a this morning. I am already ready to shoot people. Cranky cranky cranky. Just wanted to check in and let everyone know I am ok here. I am looking forward to talking to the caseworker tomorrow that is for sure.

11-20-2005, 02:20 PM
MIL wanted Ty to spend another night last night and hubby agreed without telling me, and I WANT MY BABY BACK :tantrum: He's never been away from me more than one night and I miss him so much. I would have never allowed him to stay last night and actually wanted to run out and get him but hubby reasoned with me (Ty was already asleep).

I've been calling MIL all day to tell her he has to be home by 5PM but she won't answer her phone. Had hubby call and she picked right up :rolleyes: I wonder how she was ever mature enough to raise her own kids...and it's no wonder hubby has so many issues :lol:

:hug: Melissa, I hope everyone starts feeling better. Be sure to let us know what the caseworker says tomorrow. I hope it's all great news for you. It is still so hard, I dont' know how you do it. I don't think I'd be strong enough to deal with it all as you do. If that guy is so scary, don't open that door to him, just don't! Let the caseworker know that he's threatening to you and the kids and you're not answering if he's there...her either, since really she shouldn't be there, and it's not good for the kids to see her looking that way.


11-20-2005, 02:32 PM
Odessa didn't even know who she was when she saw her yesterday. She basically greeted Kate like she does anyone else who comes to the door. I already decided that if they are stupid enough to come back, that I am just calling 911 and not even opening the door at all. I have that paper from cps stating there is no contact unless cleared ahead of time so they don't have a legal leg to stand on and I never should have to let David see Logan as he isn't the father and not married to Katy either. Even if he were married to my daughter he really has no legal rights over Logan at all. I learned all about that stuff when I was married to Dennis and things that concerned Kate. Basically the only thing a step parent is accountable for is monetary stuff. Like when Kate got a fine, he would be liable to pay it if it was the only income into the house. I am just not dealing with them if I don't have to at all. Even though Josh was sick, it was nice not to have to see Dennis today. I haven't been out of my house for a week now and it looks like I might be going another one. I am ready for a nap and Josh is standing on my last nerve too.

11-20-2005, 05:41 PM
Good plan to call 911 Melissa...keep all the doors and windows locked. I sound paranoid, I know...but you never know what people will do when on drugs. You can never be too safe. I am paranoid about that kind of thing when Steve is out on the road and it's just me and the kids here. I wish we could afford an alarm system. All we have right now is a motion detector light on the front porch.

I have slipped today, but have remained under control enough to not go overboard. I haven't eaten much, but what I did eat was junk. Food is low, but with what we just put out for the van and who knows what we'll pay for gas to go to Ohio, I just can't grocery shop this week. I bought a few things like bread and milk, and then dug into the deep freeze. Today I wasn't prepared and ended up running to McDs for $1 cheeseburgers...i know, worst thing for any of us. So, right now there's a roast in the crockpot and that will be for supper tomorrow. Lunch will be sandwiches for the next 2 days, and then I'll throw some beans into the crockpot tomorrow night for tuesday supper. I have eggs, oatmeal, sausage, and cereal for breakfast. We'll survive 2 days without the extras, and the kids still ahve their halloween candy for snacks. I just wasn't prepared today, should have put something from the deep freeze into the crock pot for tonight...but didn't think ahead :nono:


11-20-2005, 07:21 PM
It is times like this that I do wish I was married and had a man around the house. I even took my garbage out to the front of the house early. I usually don't think anything about taking it out after dinner even though it is dark but I surely do not trust that boyfriend of hers as far as I could pick him up and throw him.

My eating is not great at all. My budget for the 4 of us was 237.00 for food and with Thanksgiving and massive babyfood, it was shot down bad. I keep hoping that I will open my front door and find groceries there but so far no luck. I am supposed to have a houseful the day after Thanksgiving and I am not totally sure what I am going to feed everyone. I think I will probably tell Maryann to bring chips and salad and fix sandwiches out of the leftover turkey. Dunno yet.

11-20-2005, 07:38 PM
Do you have good neighbors that would look out for your house? As for food, definitely have someone bring something to help you out. Whoever you are clsoe to that would understand, just tell them what's up and ask them to bring something to help out. Heck, make it a pot luck and ask everyone to bring some leftovers of their own maybe. Don't put yourself out so that you and the kids have nothing left, it's not worth that. If you don't have what they want, they can get something when they leave.

My baby is back and I was SO happy to see him. He came in running and smiling and dove into my arms and I wanted to cry! I know, he was only gone 2 nights but it was eternity for me. I did get caught up on laundry and stuff around the house, got tons of time alone with Allie, so it was nice though I missed him.


11-20-2005, 08:12 PM
So glad your little man is home. I know how weird it feels when one is gone even if it is for a few hours. The first time the girls went overnight at other grandmas I called mom and didn't even know what to do with myself. I already emailed maryann for a head count and then when I find out what is going on, let her know of my plans for a potluck. I had already planned not to do anything really fancy this year. Josh is so picky and the girls are toddlers and Logan is doing the babyfood thing so I wasn't planning on making many of the things I usually do-just the basics and I got a very tiny turkey that I think I paid way too much for too lol. It will all work out-it always does.

11-20-2005, 08:17 PM
:hug: Melissa- I am so sorry you are going thru rough times. I am just going to pray for you and we are all here for support and hugs- I would so ask people to bring chips etc.. and there's nothing better than turkey sandwiches and you could even go fancy and have them hot with leftover gravy.or you could do turkey potpie - or turkey and noodles etc.. I hope everyone feels better soon- maybe a hot bath after everyone is in bed is what you need?
I hope Kate can get some help- drugs cause so much damage to families- I see it almost every day and it's so sad.

Theresa -I am so glad you get to go to Ohio! and I would have :tantrum: hubby about Ty being gone another night - I would have been so :mad: especially with your MIL being not being nice to you-

Suzette- happy Birthday- Happy Anniversary and Happy Thanksgiving! :encore:
:wave: everyone else!
I was in a mood all weekend hubby replaced water pump only to find another leak and we just clashed today and trying to find rides and make arrangements just annoyed the heck outa me. We tried to rent a car for 3 day but it was 150.00 and we could spend that but then wouldn't have had enough to fix the truck. I was being selfish cause he had to help some other people instead of working on the truck right away and he would have found the other leak and fixed it if he could have had more time. I was being a bit "witchy" today. He did a quick seal on it so hoping :crossed: it'll last till he can repair the seals. at least he has 5 days off so he can repair it and I don't have to be in after wednesday so there is light at the end of the tunnel. we only drive 6 miles a day so it's not like we have to make major trips.
I did get in some :ebike: Yesterday -but today was all :yikes: My MIL took me shopping and we went into panera bread factory oh yes that's what you take a bread addict into :stress: The smell was unreal - I swear my mouth started watering, my tummy rumbles and there were all these girls running around with samples of bread and dip.. I wanted to mug one and steal the bread. I was very good and didn't tounch anything. Bought Hubby and jocie cinnamon buns- i don't like them so that wouldn't be a temptation.
Well i have laundry, dishes and Extreme makeover home will be on soon- gotta get tissues ready- (i am such a dweeb about shows like that)
Have a great night everyone!

11-20-2005, 09:49 PM
Suzette-Happy B Day, Anniversary and Thanksgiving.
Theresa-Your MIL sounds like a real pain. At least you don't have to pretend to like her.
Melissa- I think about your often. I know you will get thru this. I think it is a good idea to ask people to bring a dish. We have a group of friends and when we all get together everyone brings something so no one has to do too much. Everyone is happy to do it.
DH is going to shocked when he comes home tonight after 3 nights away. I bought a non returnable floor lamp for the living room at an auction. I was seriously out of my mind. It is gold and has leaves and crystals and 6 shades. It looks like it came out of a brothel in 1920. It doesn't go at all in my very plain, kind of spare looking living room. It is definately a one of a kind conversation piece. He is going to flip out. I will have to blame him for leaving me alone for the weekend. If he had been with me, maybe we wouldn't have bought it. He won't buy this stupid logic. I can always put it in the guest room.
I am at 1600 calories cause of bread today. Sandi was good about resisting bread and I was not It was the last Sunday farm market till the spring and I had to buy a bread from a fabulous bakery that we won't see again till next spring. I had 4 small slices and it put me over my 1200-1300 calorie goal. I am pleased tho that I didn't fall off when people are noticing that I am changing. That's a big step for me.

11-21-2005, 08:25 AM
happy birthday and anniversary suzette! have fun :D
hang in there melissa. if you have any trouble with kate or the boyfriend, you can always call the cops and that will be one more thing to help you keep logan safe with you.
lol laura. your lamp sounds awesome! hopefully you will find a good place for it. anyway, don't men usually defer to women when it comes to decorating? if not, there's always ebay ;)
the sweet folks at my church sent dh home with a huge bag of fruit today when they heard i was sick. i was pretty excited when i saw three of those giant asian pears in the bag. boy i love those. just one filled me up and they have only 115 calories. i resisted the urge to nibble on the turkey and stuffing they also sent though. i'll have enough trouble with that on thursday.

11-21-2005, 10:21 AM
Yes Cadwell-I just started buying the Asian pears and they are a real treat, but don't buy too many at a time cause they go bad quickly. I wonder if they are seasonal.
Melissa-I hope you get to the caseworker today with your documentation. I think you will feel better when the CW reassures you that no one can take Logan from you. Please let us all know.
My DH LIKES my lamp. He must be crazier than I knew. Of course he didn't notice it when he came home last night and I had to take him over to it this morning.

I am going to try to stay at 1200 calories Mon. Tues. and Wed so I can have a small dessert on Thursday.
I have to do my fall cleanup today because there is a possibility of snow Tuesday. I have flower pots to clean and store, chairs to put away etc. I am really late doing this job, but I always wait tilll the last minute to put off winter, my least favorite time of year. The good news is it's only 4 more weeks till the solstice and then the days will start to get longer again, and we will have a new grandchild just around that time.

11-21-2005, 12:12 PM
Laura, I hate winter most as well. My kids are freezing because it's in the 50s here..just wait until they get to Ohio :lol: I am always running around in short sleeves here while everyone is in their winter coats...they just don't know what cold really is! Bad side is, so far every trip to Ohio the kids have come home sick. I'm hoping with school, Allie's immune system is stronger this year. I keep them well bundled, but snow is just not fun unless you play in it :p I dont' know if there will be snow there this week, but it would be nice.

Cadwell, the fruit sounds so yummy! We only have apples right now and I can't buy more since we won't be home to eat it for 4-5 days :( I will have to look for those big pears when I get home.

Sandi, sorry about the pump problems. Spouses sometimes bump heads, but when the problems are fixed you guys will come together again. Cars can be so stressful, especially when you have to find other ways to get around.

No news from Melissa yet...I'll check back later and I hope you have good news today.


11-21-2005, 02:10 PM
Just checking in. Still haven't had a call back from the caseworker so I am assuming thus far that Katy was trying to lie to me yet again. It is at the point that basically whatever she tells me I do the opposite is truth. It just kills me. Logans first teeth broke through! He was fussy and kind of up and down all night last night so that explains why. I set the appointment for the 3rd to get pics done. Other grandma is coming up to give me a hand with all the kids. I will come back later and read posts ect, I just wanted to keep ya'll posted here on the status.

11-21-2005, 03:30 PM
Well he called me back and now it is like a family services thing. She hasn't been cleared of anything although she is going to be able to have some visits but only if she calls and sets them up and David is NOT allowed to be there! Apparently the house was found totally unacceptable for children so I am breathing alot easier now about Logan staying. It didn't sound to me like they were planning on him going back anytime soon at all. Thank you everyone for being there for me!

11-21-2005, 04:04 PM
Melissa- I'm glad you can breathe again. If Kate hasn't bothered visiting the girls, why would she care to now. I think the kids will be safely with you till such time as Kate is totally cleaned up, on her feet and can be responsible and she doesn't seem to be showing any inclination towards that yet. But right now the little ones come first, because they are helpless and she is not. I think the CWs understand that.

11-21-2005, 05:16 PM
Very relieved for you Mellissa...and for little Logan. I hate to say I'm glad Kate's house is not suitable for children, but really I am. She might have gotten them back if the environment "appeared" stable. I'm glad it's a clear cut not suitable so you get to keep him hands down. I really think she will just go on and forget about him as she seems to have done the very sad for the kids, but maybe the best thing for them in the long run.

I struggle with issues like this because I jsut don't see how a mother can do anything that would put her child at risk. I changed A LOT when I had my kids and I can never imagine giving them up, or living for myself and letting them be in danger. Just cannot fathom that. I guess that is what drugs do to you, because I'm sure Kate would never do this to her kids if she were in her right mind.

Oh well, I'll hush up now. Off to can get back to normal now Melissa, he is safe with you for now. Don't let that guard down though.


11-21-2005, 06:48 PM
I know exactly what you mean. Katy was never treated the way she treats her kids. I just can't understand her thinking. The new caseworker called me and I guess there is a hearing on the 29th but I am not sure I want to go or not. Part of me thinks I should so the courts can see I am concerned about his welfare but the other part of me just doesn't want to because I just don't want to hear it all. The caseworker seems really nice and asked about Logan and how we were all doing. I guess I will take a poll and see what you guys think about me going or not. I am sure Mom will sit with the kids while I go-so what do you guys think?

11-21-2005, 07:05 PM
What is the purpose of the hearing? Is it Kate asking for the kids, I hope not? Or just CWs getting a court order on placement of Logan with you?

11-21-2005, 07:30 PM
It is a dependency hearing which takes the care of Logan out of her hands and into mine for the time being anyway and I think visitation too. The state has stepped in and taken Logan out so this makes it official.

11-21-2005, 07:31 PM
I really, really feel you should go, Melissa. It will be hard to hear, but you have to be informed of what is going on, and this will give you first hand knowledge of everything, and you won't have to ask others. When she says something, you will know when she is lying because you were there as well. I know it's hard, so hard I can never imagine, but I think you have to be there for so many reasons:

1. To be informed on what is going on and not in the dark, wondering.
2. To show the courts that you are seriously invested in this and want Logan to remain with you...never know, you might be able to speak or something.
3. So you won't have to guess if Kate is telling you the truth, you will know for sure if she is lying about court orders.
4. In order to care for Logan, you'll have to deal with kate as his mother, esp. since she'll have visitations. You need to know what's going on with her, what her orders are, etc. to deal with her effectively, manage visitations, etc.

I just really feel like you should be there. You need to hear it first hand and be informed on what's happening. If you can speak, then you need to tell all you know and fight for him to stay with you. I think being there you accomplish more than not being there, right? At least it shows you're seriously interested in his welfare and are standing up for him.

That's my opinion, which I wouldn't have said unless asked, but you did so there ya go :tape:

11-21-2005, 08:10 PM
I agree that you should go. I know it hurts to see and hear about Kate. She is your child too. I think you need to show the court that you are standing up for Logan, and as Theresa said, you will hear the court orders first hand so you will know exactly what they say.
Did you have to do this for the little girls? Do you have legal custody of them? I feel for you cause we have been thru this and I know how it feels to be threatened and fearful that a decision is being made that affects you and the baby you love. It's best to just face it and not have to hear about it from a CW.

11-21-2005, 08:44 PM
I called mom to let her know I would need her to watch the kids for me. I took Kate to court along with Jason(SIL) as he wanted the girls here with me too and I have legal custody of both girls. It was supposed to go to trial but I did get her to sign the papers so I just had to have the judge sign off on it. I really don't want to hear about the conditions of her house and all the illegal junk that has been going on but I am convinced that I need to go. If for nothing else to show the judge that I am there and willing to take care of him and also if he has any questions, I am there in person to answer them. I was awarded the girls on alot less and I will do whatever the courts tell me in order for him to stay here. I know it has only been three weeks but I just can't imagine him not being here now. He just fit into the house so quickly and now if I can just get my eating routine back in action, life will be good. I was just mainly relieved that if the visitation gets set up, that David will not be allowed to have any. The CW is trying to locate Logan's dad but I don't think I have anything to worry about there. He didn't want anything to do with Kate and to the best of my knowledge has never even seen Logan. If anything, I would think he would be happy that the baby isn't with Kate. I think there is no love loss there. Thank you for your imput guys!

11-21-2005, 08:46 PM
Melissa-I ditto everything Laura and Theresa said. I would be there so I would know what was going on and have an input if needed. Any time court is involved with those kids I'd be there -Tho I tend to be paranoid when it comes to the state and case workers..
Theresa- I see parents who have hit bottom and are just so take over by drugs they do anything to get $$ to buy more.
I can't understand either how these parents can neglect their kids- But the drugs, drinking , lifestyle get such a hold on them - it's a violent cycle that not many escape without help. They have to be willing to accept the help too. I feel terrible when we have to turn someone away cause they've abused our food bank so many times (like getting food from us and then we see them in a store buying things that they say they can't afford or saying they don't have a car & we see them in a new car etc..) but if we don't give them food -then I fear the kids will go hungry- it eats me up inside at times.

I don't want to talk about food today :( today was good -tonight bites.

we did have an interesting morning at work today- we went and toured a new building that is 4 times bigger than ours and had sooo many offices and a HUGE warehouse for fixing up and it's so perfect for what we need. But it is a tad bit expensive. I got all excited as my office and work area would be awesome!!I guess if God wants us to have it we will and if not we won't- we've been trying to build a bigger building but can't get anywhere with anything so maybe it's good this place came open- I am trying to get everything done I normally do in a week in 3 days so i can take Friday off too.

Report cards came out today and Jocie made straight A's ! She made honor roll again. I am so proud of her! Zachary did not do as well but his mom isn't too worried - his behavior grades are rotten and he is old enough to behave in class.

It's getting cold out tonight our low will be 45 - I know that's not much to most of you -but freezing to me.. :lol:

Have a great night everyone- I may check in later to avoid stress eating.. I can't type and eat at the same time :p:

11-21-2005, 09:15 PM
Melissa-I'm glad you made the decision to go. All 3 littles ones will be with you until one day if Kate gets cleaned up and it's going to take a lot of intervention for that to happen. If she can straighten out, maybe you will all be together, but I don't thing that's going to happen for a long time because she has to want it and apparently right now she is more interested in other things. Next week you will be able to settle down and start to enjoy the kids and get into a routine and go back OP.
I am stuffed. I made an enormous salad with everything in it and ate a lot of it. Lots of greens and a little feta cheese so I am ok calorie wise. I had too much tea today. Probably 10 cups cause I was in the house all day. I feel like I could swim away. It's just a bad habit. I walk into the kitchen and fill the teapot with water and make yet another cup. I will try to cut down tomorrow.

11-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Good decision, Melissa! It will be hard, but so many of the necessary things in life are. Raising children is hard in general, but your situation is a million times harder. I can't imagine what it feels like to see your own child's life such a wreck, but have to look past her to take care of the innocent babies. You are so strong, you will get through....YOU WILL! With those kids depending on'll do it, and you KNOW you will.

Laura, there are much worse things you could have stuffed yourself on than salad, great choice there.

Sandi, good luck on the office space! Hope ya get that nice working area for yourself.


11-22-2005, 05:48 AM
melissa, good luck with the court. i think it will be good for you to go so you know what's going on. i'll be praying for you to keep logan with you, and that kate eventually recovers, and that you stat strong through all this.
sandi, congrats on jocie's grades and good luck on your new office space. it sounds like a real find!
as for me, i am raging pissed. i thought i had averted the holiday drama, but i was wrong. my crazy sils decided to bail on thanksgiving dinner with us and go home to fresno (heard this from mil -- it wasn't like they were going to tell us or anything). they would be the only ones there -- mil and fil are on vacation, so this made *no* sense! she claimed being at my house would be "uncomfortable." CRY ME A RIVER!!!after hollering at sil for 30 minutes (after which i was thoroughly enraged), dh convinced them to come to thanksgiving with us. like i want to spend a national holiday with them now!! well, i explained this to dh and he was having none of it. he said i should be "forgiving," and "understanding," since they have "issues" (think they choked on their silver spoons). they are 20 years old, and they should know how to behave. we had, of course, no other plans we could make for the holiday. after an hour of bickering, i finally agreed to meet them for one hour at a restaurant (they have always refused to eat anything i cook anyway. probably because i am overweight and they are anorexic, so i must have fat cooties). i thought this was much too generous of me. really. dh just said "grrrr, fine!" and that was that. self-centered, neurotic brats!!
i am sorry about the rant y'all, but i had to get it out, or else i will not be able to remain civil to them on thursday, even for one hour, and i refuse to be rude to them, even though they deserve it, because they will be my guests. grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

11-22-2005, 03:34 PM
Sorry you didn't escape the drama Cadwell. Your sils sound like royal pains and I wouldn't be able to be so nice probably. I think I'd have just let them go and never invited them again, but I think you did the right thing standing up for yourself. I wish I were more like that.

I am wearing my fat jeans today because I feel icky and bloated and BLAH. I have a cold, can't breath and my throat is scratchy. Got a health alert from Allie's school for strep throat and about cried right there. If that's what I have, this will make for a miserable Thanksgiving. Allie is putting her fingers in her ears and I think she might be getting an ear infection as well. :( Maybe we should skip Ohio and just all go to the doctor together...but my family will not hear of that. We may get every one of them sick, but at least we'll be there...that's what my sis said. Not sure everyone else will agree with her :lol: She is right, I haven't been there in over a year so it is time.


11-22-2005, 06:47 PM
Cadwell-Look at the one hour with them as theater. You are watching a comedy about silly people and you will laugh later.
Theresa- does vitamin C work on your family? Sometimes it chases away the symptoms before they get a good chance to take hold.
I just shopped fpr food for us and to bring to my Mom on Thursday. I will cook easy to just warm up stuff for her because I worry about whether she is eating 3 times a day. We have help 3 mornings a week for 4 hours each day, but I don't think she is eating well on the other days. My sister takes her out Sunday evening so that's ok. I have 2 sisters and a brother so we can all pitch in to pay for more help, but my Mom is stubborn and won't agree that she needs more help than she has now. My mom is 88, and until 2 years ago she worked 6 hours a day. No one knew how ols she was cause she looks so good, but now she is suffering from mobility problems and short term memory loss.
My DH on the other hand, seems to have forgotten to let the dog out before he left, so I came in to a stinky poopy wet mess to clean. It's surely :tantrum: my fault, because I didn't remind him to walk the dog before he left. Silly me. I do think that is very much a guy thing, to not do anything around the house unless asked or reminded.

11-22-2005, 06:59 PM
Ewww I hate those messes. My hubby is the same way, but I don't think he forgets most times...he chooses not to remember and knows he can say "BUT honey! You didn't remind me, so it's your fault too!" Sheesh, when do they grow up :lol:

I've been busy getting things ready to go. Focused so much on getting the house nice to come home too and realized I haven't packed yet :dizzy: but it's okay, there isn't a lick of dirty laundry anywhere so it should be easy to throw together a few days of clothing for each of us. I have to pack as light as possible because we are coming home with all our Christmas presents from my mom, a couple trash bags of clothes my sister's boys have outgrown (for Tyler), and who knows what else we will accumulate while there. My sis and I haven't decided whether we want to brave the post-Thanksgiving shopping crowds or not. I kinda would rather not do it this year, but she kinda wants to and no one else will go with her. If she still wants it, I will go and it will turn out to be fun. Would keep me out of the leftovers so might be a good idea!

Okay, I'm off to bathe everyone and get the kids to bed. Hubby should be home within a couple hours and we head our early, early in the AM. I probably won't go online until I am back, so talk to everyone probably Monday.

Melissa, have a happy day and good luck and wishes for the day after. i hope to hear that it turned out okay.


11-22-2005, 07:01 PM
oh Laura, I also wanted to say you are wonderful to be there for your mother. My grandmother was similar, you would have never known she was sick in any way, so full of life and energy. Then suddenly she didn't feel good, the very next day was not able to get up, next day was in a wheel chair, and within a week could not get out of bed at all. It happened so fast it was scary, I was like 13 and didn't understand at all how she could be dancing one day and in bed the next. It's hard...hang in there.


11-23-2005, 03:26 PM
have fun in ohio theresa!
laura, i think you are right about not doing anything unless reminded a guy thing. i remind dh to do things sometimes, and he still blames me when he forgets, and tries to say that i never said anything. men!
well this thanksgiving situation just keeps on getting better. not. sil1 did not want to go to the restaurant, and when i put my foot down, she told dh that he listens to me too much and doesn't care about what she wants, and that we had to do whatever she wanted because mil gave us the money. we never heard from sil2, but heard she went home to fresno, so i guess i won't have to deal with that one at least. grrrrr.

11-23-2005, 03:40 PM
Cadwell- Hold your ground and go the restaurant. You certainly don't want to cook for these folks.
We are going to a restaurant cause I thought 2 of my sons were unavailable, both going to their inlaws. Today I discovered that neither in law family is doing it, and it was a big miscommunication. It's too late for me to do it, so they can join us, but no one is excited about eating out and especially driving far. I'll make better plans next year.
I will have some bread tomorrow and dessert. I'll make up for it by just doing breakfast and dinner. We won't have leftover since we are eating out.

Where is everyone?

11-23-2005, 08:51 PM
I am here just been busy busy busy. I got paperwork from the new caseworker yesterday for court on Tuesday and it was also suggested I have a pic of Logan for the judge. I got mom's poloriod and got a pic and finished the paperwork up. It was bath day today for the kids so that was a process and a half-LOL. Got my pie made and it really wasn't my best effort I think. Maybe I am just way out of practice but it is just me and the kids and they don't know it isn't pretty. Still dealing with runny noses but at least josh went to school even though it was a half day today. Josh and Odessa haven't stopped fussing at each other since Josh got home so I do believe I have some kids who will go to bed early tonight.

Sorry about the inlaw crap. I would do what you had planned to do and if they don't like to too bad. I just don't understand why people have to be so stinky and especially on holidays when it is supposed to be a time of family and good times. I am kind of wondering how I am going to do all this cooking between the kids with no other adult in the house. It should prove interesting and we may not eat till 8p LOL.

I want to wish everyone a safe trip who is traveling and a wonderful Thanksgiving day! Remember what it is all about and focus on those wonderful things we have in our lives and the blessings we have. I will see everyone after the holiday-well maybe more like saturday since I have the girls other grandma and daddy coming for the day on Friday.

11-25-2005, 07:49 AM
thanks for the support everyone. we all went to thanksgiving and it was fine. everyone pretended like it never happened and was civil. whatever. i went over what i planned for calories but not by a grip, so that's good. i have been pretty low on calories for several days so i guess that makes up for it. the food was actually really good. i have never had thanksgiving at a restaurant, and it was a good surprise. dh didn't like it though. oh well.
hope everyone had a great holiday!

11-25-2005, 11:24 AM
Our DIL deiivered a 36 week old perfect baby girl, stillborn, early Thursday morning. We knew there was no hearlbeat earlier in the day. She was induced and 8 hours later, the baby was stillborn. My family is in shock. This was totally unexpected. The pregnancy was an easy joyful time. My son and his wife are devestated and all our attention are on them. Her parents are staying with them. There will be a funeral on Monday. We are greiving for a child who never breathed, but for whom we waited with such happiness.

11-25-2005, 02:08 PM
oh Laura how sad- my heart goes out to you and your family. I will pray for all of you-
I was going to chat about my day yesterday , but it seems trival after reading about your family's loss. I pray in this time of sadness your family can be together and comfort one another.

11-25-2005, 02:56 PM
My heart goes out to you and your family! We will keep you in our prayers. We love you.

Ice Princess
11-25-2005, 11:43 PM
I am so sorry to hear that, its is an awful time, children should never go first.

I finnaly have a bit of tiem to dail up and get on. Life is still crazyand hectic but I am looking forward to some quiet tiem this weekend. I will write more later on this weekend, I just wanted to say hello

11-26-2005, 12:42 AM
Laura- Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
:grouphug: We are all here if you need us.


11-26-2005, 05:49 PM
Thank you for all of your kind thoughts. We will get through this because it must be endured.
Please go back to using this forum as we did before. I don't want anyone to not discuss the usual issues because of my distress. I most certainly appreciate and value and accept your support at this sad time, but I don't want to keep you all from posting and getting the support you need on this weight and food journey that we are all on.
This is one of the few times in my life that I can't eat, but it's not a good way to stay OP.
Again, thank you all.

11-26-2005, 06:29 PM
laura, i am so sorry. that's terrible. i'll be thinking of you and your family.

11-27-2005, 01:09 AM
Oh Laura, I am so sad for you and that little baby. I cannot imagine what it is to deal with as a grandmother...or as a mother who lost the baby she so waited and longed for...I will be praying for you both as well as the father and other family members. That is one of the hardest things to deal with and I am so sorry.

I had a great trip but am so glad to be home. I unwrapped my pilates soon as I got here and can't wait to make up a new exercise schedule and work it in. that will have to wait though because I have a never ending list of things that have to be done tomorrow so we can all start the week out on Monday, back to normal life.

I am really digging in and going hard core in exercise and food until Christmas. i was not a good girl while in Ohio and have to WI tomorrow to access the damage. I don't feel bad really, but can tell I've gained back a few pounds at least. I want to get it off and hopefully a couple mroe before Christmas so it's time to refocus and dig in there.


11-27-2005, 07:33 AM
So sorry to hear of your family's loss. Our sympathies and prayers are with you all during this difficult time.


11-27-2005, 11:59 AM
i hadn't been to the gym to wi in quite a while, so last night i was surprised to see i am down seven pounds from last time. yay! that means i have already met my novemeber goal, which i didn't think would happen. woohoo!

11-27-2005, 12:38 PM
YAY! Candace Way to go - 7 lbs !!that is so great! :bravo:
Theresa -glad you enjoyed your trip

I am in a Blah mood- I just can't seem to focus and it's irritating me to no end - seems i have a zillion things to do and can't finish any of them so i get bummed and give up.
I need to "dig in" like Theresa says and be a food nerd and be ever diligent. My 2 pounds up shows i haven't been focused. I also need to exercise- it/s so easy to put it off and say i just don't have time- what i need ot do is be "selfish" again and make me time to exercise- hubby's vacation days messes up my schedule and then my oldest broke up with her B/F so she'll need a ride to work - and that cuts my available time down. I really think I am sorta making excuses and need to stop and just take care of it instead of whining. Hubby says to tell DD to get her own ride and I guess i need to do that.
I am trying to get everything done today so i can start on Monday and pay attention to food and exercise- these past 4 days have not been good- too much snacking and not keeping track of my food- no exercise etc.. I even ate a tootsie roll (mini) yesterday.. :(
Give me a good :rollpin: ladies and a few:drill: and i'll get back on track- need to stop feeling sorry for myself :p:
Have a good day all !

11-27-2005, 02:57 PM
*whack* *whack* *whack* How's that Sandi?

I got to the grocery store today, though we don't have much $ left until Thursday payday. Had to pay high price for chicken, and I am hoping it goes on sale again SOON so i can stock up again.

I got some motivation in a bad way while in Ohio. I saw my sister at her highest weight ever and she just doesn't look like herself. She's close to 400 lbs. now I think, since she was 350 when I saw her a year ago and she's much bigger now. Her 5 year old son is also very chunky now and he doesn't look healthy to me. He's wearing the same size clothes as our 9 year old nephew! They eat out about every night of the week, plus she eats out for lunch every day, and just has no desire to lose weight. Sometimes, they will eat out twice in one night, dinner and then after the kids go to bed they get Taco Bell or McDs as a snack, ICK.

She has all kinds of health issues and the doctor has just told her she has to lose weight or it is just going to keep getting worse. Still, she won't do it :?: I tried to give her my workout dvds and she wouldn't even look at them, said she'll just wait until summer and start taking walks. I told her walking is good, but she needs to start NOW, and she said that they were walking in the summer....walking to Dairy Queen for ice cream and back. WHAT??? Walking a short distance and eating ice cream in the middle does nothing, she's cancelling it out, but she won't listen and I didn't want to ruin Thanksgiving so I didn't say a word. Mom took the dvds, she has lost some weight and looks good.

I am just SO SAD for my sister, I feel like she's killing herself and setting her kids up for the same and she doesn't seem to care.

I also saw my friend who I told you all about before, the one who lost over 100 lbs. through prescription pills and then her doctor took her off the pills. She has gained it all back, plus more I think. She was baking a freezer full of buckeyes when I visited her and just watching her was enough for me to refuse them. I was so sad for my friend and my sister I felt sick when we left. But, there is nothing i can do but use it as motivation to keep going about this the right way, for me and my kids.


11-27-2005, 02:58 PM
I am with you Sandi. Get back on track! Move it! Move it! :snowball: I have just been so undone because I have to go to court again. I hate court and I just don't want to hear all the icky things. On top of that it looks like my ex is a no show for his visit and now Josh is all undone about it which I can't blame him for. I have gained 5 pounds over the last almost month but I am finally feeling like I am getting into a routine here and getting a handle on it all. This next week is so busy between court, dr. appointment, monthly errends, wic, and pictures being done so today I need to get the house as put together as I can so I don't have a huge deal by the end of the week. I really want to be under 200 by christmas time so like Theresa, I too need to dig in and get this ball rolling!

11-27-2005, 03:49 PM
Thanks Melissa and Theresa- I needed the fussing- I have no idea whats wrong I just seem to be :hungry: all the time these past few days. Hubby says maybe it's because i ate so MANY unrefined carbs these past 4 days that my body has had a turn around and is saying OOOO feed me white bread and cookies and candy. So I go thru :nono: NOT eating the unrefined carbs again. and :workout: - I feel as if I have to start all over again :(
We went shopping today and grabbed some lean pork and chicken was on sale so that was good. I also got some canned fruit in it's own juice- a can of those at wallworld is only 50 cents compared to 97 cents a can at publix..makes no sense?? and i got some REAL oatmeal and some other things that really weren't expensive( like SF/FF jello) but will help me thru some rough spots.
Melissa- when you hit ONEderland there is gonna be a party! I know how you feel I just wanna hit in the 150's by Christmas!
Well i have had a better afternoon - got shopping done the tree is up and 50% decorated , Dishes are done and laundry is being whipped into shape.
I am going to do a week of menus tonight and plan for lunches and dinners. this way I can DIG IN - ( i like that phrase) and get going-
have a good night all-WE CAN DO THIS! :cheer:

11-27-2005, 08:25 PM
You are doing better than I am. It seems all I can do lately just to keep the clutter down. I have done good eating today but I have had to stop myself and turn around so many times today that I lost count. Josh hit me today in the head and I just lost it. Yes he is still living but man I came close to just letting him totally have it. He has got to learn to deal bettter with frustration and thus far I just haven't found the key for him yet. That is the first time in a really long time that he has hit me. Used to happen daily and I got really good at duck and weave like you wouldn't believe. I know part of my problem is that I have been stuck in the house with a bunch of sick cranky kids for two weeks now. Josh finally called dennis about 1130 just to find out that dennis said he was sick and wouldn't be there. I felt so bad for him. Funny I can let him know when Josh is sick but he just doesn't show up if it is him. Can ya'll see why I want to hit the fridge really bad????? Plus I had my daughter instant message me every day now for the last 3 days. I printed them out to give to the caseworker. I just keep wondering what part of no contact she isn't getting. So needless to say I am stressed out and trying really hard not to go eat myself silly. I know it won't change anything and will only make me feel yicky and the things that are bugging me will still be there.

11-27-2005, 08:30 PM
What is she saying in the messages? Is she trying to ask how Logan is, or just trying to get at you? She is actually working in your favor though, she's showing she can't go by the rules or listen to court orders. She's just stacking the deck against herself,so keep printing them out and not responding. She'll get it one day...hopefully.


11-27-2005, 08:36 PM
First one she wanted to come see the girls on thanksgiving-she hasn't seen or asked after them for 6 months. Told her she couldn't because Logan was here and she was arguing with me and then said this was all my fault because I keep butting in. I didn't go there with her. Second one she was trying to give me a fish and a tank and I think it was just so she could come over and she said she is marrying David. I can't believe she would even consider that after what he pulled. So it is going to show that she is just as irresponsible as ever, going to stay with loser boy and not following directions. Third one I have no idea what she was trying to type to me and I just closed the window and ignored her. I always have yahoo on invisible because of her and that way if I don't want to deal with her, she is never the wiser whether I am there or not. I wish it was bedtime for josh-I am really on the edge with him and he doesn't get it still.

11-27-2005, 08:42 PM
Sounds like she is just trying to get to see him one way or another. It is sad she can't see her own son, but really it seems best she stay away at least until there is a court order to guide the visits. This is much better than her beating on your door though, you can ignore her easier this way.

I am sorry about the kids as well. Make sure you tell Josh's daddy how it makes Josh feel and how he acts out when he is stood up. He probably won't care, but at least he should know that his behavior affects his son to this extent.

I am having to re-train Ty to sleep on his own tonight, after sleeping with me and Allie while in Ohio. He keeps screaming to get out of his room and saying "I sleep with mama!" when I ask him what is the matter. I'm getting a headache.

11-27-2005, 08:54 PM
Yeah she is just bending the rules is all thinking she can get away with it. She forgets that she isn't that slick.

Dennis has been told repeatedly about so many things where Josh is concerned and he ignores it all. It would truly be easier on us all if he just went away and I could keep the stability and routine that josh needs so bad in order to function.

Feel for you for the retraining. I went through that with josh several times now and it isn't any easier even though he is older now. He has been back again now for about 7 months and I am hoping that is the last time I ever have to do that again. I feel deprived because I am sharing my room with Logan right now. I can't move him in with the girls until he sleeps all night and that won't start until I can get him to quit going to bed at like 630-7 every night. He actually went to bed like at 415 today. Good thing they all eat flippin early here. He basically ate his food at 4p and then went right to sleep. Hope Ty falls asleep soon for you.

11-27-2005, 09:42 PM
hmmm have you tried feeding him later? It may be the full belly putting him out right after.

11-28-2005, 10:54 AM
It feels so good to be back on the exercise program. Got my 30 min. strength in this AM and can't wait to do the strip workout again this afternoon. The damage for the holiday is 4 lbs. which I hope will come right back off. Some of it is TOM and I am holding water because my ankles are a bit swollen, so I am also back on the water today to get rid of that. Hopefully I can get back to 242 by the end of this week.

Where is everyone? Wake up people, time to get moving!

I have just 2 weeks until hubby's work Christmas party, so i want to be under 240 by then.


11-28-2005, 02:08 PM
I am here-LOL. They didn't have an aide to ride with josh this morning so that kind of put us off schedule since his bus was pretty late but he did pretty good about it. Logan is down for his nap and I really need to get in there and clean up the kitchen. I am gettin mad at myself because I can't seem to get back on track. Part of it is because the larder is lean and I just don't want to use my credit card to buy groceries-especially when I am still owed child support for this month. He once again has sent nothing-shock shock. I am going to have to kind of just try to do the best I can for the time being although it is hard when it is pancakes or grilled cheese sandwiches and the like. Ok I am going to get busy here now that I got the listings for ebay done.

11-28-2005, 04:28 PM
I'm here too :wave: Just a bit late- It has been CRAZY today
tis the season lalalalala- (no, it's not only retail that is crazy this time of year)

Had a bit of excitement this morning- I got to co sign a check for
50 THOUSAND dollars :yikes: That was kinda fun...

Hubby has fixed the truck and all it needs is a transmission thingy and it'll be all ok. I panic over the cost of a part and then found out it's 16.00 - hubby had me going for a while.. there are times he teases too much.

Food is very good today i hope to keep it up. I even drank my water today!!!! I am doing good counting points and hope to get in some exercise today. at least i'd better get some exercise in or i may get whacked :snowball: again Menus for the week are all made out and it seemed to make things easier for me today. Now i need to write down an exercise plan for the week-

Living room is a mess and I need to get it all picked up, finish decorating the tree ( at least try to get more done) and maybe do a load of laundry...:cry: I hate housework! I work from only 8:30 to 2:30 or 8 to 3 and then i have to come home and clean and cook etc.. something is not fair here ;)

well off to clean i go- at least it is burning some calories !:p

11-28-2005, 06:03 PM
Melissa, I forgot to ask how the get together went day after Thanksgiving? I hope you didn't totally wipe out your food supply. And I also hope Josh is feeling happier today.

Sandi, I feel ya on the housework. Our dryer is definitely broke, not heating up at all, so tomorrow I guess I'll have to wash up a few loads and drag them wet to the laundromat to dry them. It's only down the road, but I'm not looking forward to it. I could wash them there too, but I don't want to have to entertain the kids there any longer than I have to. This just really sucks and i hate housework to begin with. Now, I have to somehow come up with $ for Ty's birthday, Christmas, and a dryer. I wish I'd known this before we put out so much for the van. But, 4 people have called today about buying the explorer, so if hubby gets in and can sell it that will bring some relief. It's not worth much, but hopefully someone will want it.


11-28-2005, 06:41 PM
The get together was just wonderful. I actually got amanda to say Daddy! We worked on it for a few days. I just wish she would start talking. I am really trying to avoid speach therapy if I can. Of course I wound up feeding for two meals and I did get wiped out food wise but it was just so much fun and the gal that SIL drives with seems like a really nice gal and fit right into our crazy clan. They invited us all for Christmas day. Usually they just take the girls and so it was just going to be Logan and I for Christmas Day. They are even coming to pick us all up in the motor home since we will be going to Bellevue. I think it will be great. Man I feel for you not having a dryer. I would croak without either washer or dryer. Hopefully it will be able to be fixed fast for you.

Ice Princess
11-28-2005, 06:57 PM
I weighed in even though I havn't really gone in 3 weeks, to Curves. I didn't lose anything, but I didn't gain either and my fat % went down about 1/2 %. Happy Happy. Got to get back on track, I have decided to order a Gazelle in stead of a Eliptical or a Treadmill, it is cheaper and I can do more. Have any of you tried it or use it, any advice would be good. A friend had one but her kids broke it, she loved it and lost about 50lbs in about a 6 months she said it was fun to use, she would get on about 10 times a day for 10 min or so. I am getting very excited to try it out should be here in 2 - 3 weeks. I need somthing cause I moved in to the counrty, and its winter, so Curves will be a bit harder, I just need to make time that will fit in to my new schedule. I was going at 7:00 and home by 7:30, wake kids up and get ready for work and school. But now that I'm in counrty, not gonna warm of van to go and come back, and the kids bus is here the same time, I leave for work, just gonna have to juggle and go at lunch hour so I can still be home when the kids get home. I can do it, I must rearange my schedule, I have to quit making excussesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
I promise December will be better, and stick to my program.

I also so this new PS2 game called eyetoy kenetics, anybody heard of it??
looks cool thinking on getting that to casue the kids want the other eye toy game so it would be fun, and the other game makes them move more to. I think it is genius haveing to make them jump around and exercise but in a fun way, might stop somechild hood obesety. Check it out. well i guess thats it for me right now. gonna start thinking about Decembers goals cause Novembers have gone right out the window, along with Octobers and Septembers. Gotta get control of my life.

11-28-2005, 07:11 PM
Ice, you had an excuse up until now, you were moving and life was up in the air there, but you are settled now, and you are rid of the loser ex, and there are NO MORE EXCUSES! Hop to it and get going. You still have time to knock off a few pounds before Christmas, get moving!

I have a gazelle and loved it from day one. I don't use it as much anymore because it got real squeaky, I mean really noisy so doing it when kids were asleep as I did at first was impossible. I still love it for watching TV and passing time healthfully (rather than sitting on couch) but I have to turn the TV up so loud it's rediculous because of the squeaking. I thought it was because I was over the 250 lb. limit, but now I am well below that and it still squeaks. well, sometimes it doesn't squeak but you never know when you step on if it will or not, even WD40 doesn't work. I do love it though, it is fun. My kids also do it, they each sit on one pedal and use it like a swing...maybe that is why it squeaks :lol:

Melissa, I am so glad the get together turned out so well, and very happy that you get to go for Christmas...and get a ride to boot! that will take some stress out of that day for you I hope. When do you go to court? Sounds like you'll have to speak to the judge? Okay, maybe I"m being nosey but I want to know what happens and feel very strongly that Logan MUST remain with you. I feel like I know ya'll.

I did really well today, until this evening. It's been raining since we came home and is so dreary, and I didn't have anything quick to make for supper and time slipped up on me so we headed out to the store just for bread...and ended up with a frozen pizza and 2 boxes of little debbies. I had a Christmas tree cake and the pizza is in the oven now. I'm going to let the kids get their fill first, then eat what they leave....if they leave any at all. If not, I will make a sandwich and have some yogurt. Hopefully they will eat it all, that would be best for me after the cake.


11-28-2005, 08:13 PM
Court is tomorrow morning at 9a. I guess there are a bunch all slotted in for that time so you show up and wait for your turn kind of thing. I am not sure if the judge is going to want to talk to me or not but I will volunteer any information that he wants. There is just no way that logan will be safe or in good care in her present condition. As soon as I get back I will post you guys all in on what happened. Was so nice all 3 kids took a snooze today and I got to actually lie down myself for about 45 minutes. It was pure heaven. They are talking snow here and while I like it, I don't drive in it.

11-28-2005, 08:47 PM
It's raining here too- but today was muggy and 81- we have to run the air conditioner.. Fla. weather can be so weird sometimes.
Theresa- are there any scratch and dent places around you?? we got a dryer from one of those and it's lasted 7 years and i use it almost every day , 2-3 times a day is more like it -we paid 75% less than a "normal" one. I feel for you- i hate laundry mats-
Melissa- I will be saying a prayer for you (noon my time) and please let us know what's up -I am so happy for you it sounds like Christmas will be a blast!
Ice- stop the excuses girl (like i have room to talk ) :) I have heard that gazelles squeak after a while I still want one but took mine off lawaway as we may get a weight bench instead and since they lowered my bike seat I can ride it better- (not that i do)


I am in a baking mood- made muffins and cinnamon bread tonight- for french toast in the a.m. for family. I have figured out if i make stuff they like that i don't like then I can still bake and not gain. I love to bake.. and cook - I am making cookies for hubby's work and for others - and what we call sticky breads (banana, cinnamon etc..)

Warning rant ahead :soap:
Did have someone say to me tonight , "well if you don't like those sweets why are you overweight?" well gee maybe it's lack of exercise and overeating other wrong foods.:rollpin: sorry- people can annoy me at times;) Just because one is overweight does not mean we sit around and eat candy , cookies etc.. all day long. I don't eat sweets often that mini tootsie roll was the first candy i'd had in MONTHS and i would eat a candy bar maybe once a month- don't like cookies etc.. I DO like cake and fast food and italian bread and french bread and french fries and sausage gravy and biscuits etc.. But I don't eat them anymore...

Ice Princess
11-28-2005, 09:53 PM
Thanks, Ladies I needed that support.

11-28-2005, 11:37 PM
We are back from being with our son and DIL who lost their baby. It was a terrible upsetting time, but they are doing better. He will take the week off to be with her. Each day she appears to be stronger.
Lots of people came and lots of food and I was not careful. I ate junk and way too much. Tomorrow I know I will return to being OP. It won't be difficult because I feel so icky from sugar and so many carbs. I look forward to eating healthy again, being OP and feeling better.
Melissa- I will think good thoughts for you at 12:00 EST. I know Logan will be protected and the court will order him into your custody.

11-28-2005, 11:39 PM
Sandi just blow that comment off. Some people just don't think before they speak, and sounds like this person needs a whiff of logic before he/she opens her mouth. You know better, so just blow it off. Your system of baking what you don't like is a great one! It works for you and that is what matters.

Melissa, my thoughts and prayers are with you tomorrow. Even if you have to wait awhile, at least you will be out of the house without the kids!!!! Not the most pleasant situation to find that time alone, but maybe you can smile and enjoy that anyway. Bring a book or magazine or something and just sit back and relax....that's if the daughter isn't there waiting next to you bugging ya to pieces.

I had a couple pieces of pizza and felt sluggish, but made myself do my last exercise anyway. I had tummy problems most of the day and am just ready to crawl into bed. It's STILL raining out there! And it's so foggy I can barely see the road out front...oh, and someone driving by dumped trash all over my front yard and I had to go out there and pick it all up. McDs, Taco Bell, and Subway trash along with an empty dog food bag. Some people are so horrible!


11-28-2005, 11:41 PM
Laura, I am glad she's feeling better, but I know it will be a long time for her to really get back to happiness and life. I am glad he could take time off to be with her, you all sound like such a loving family.


11-29-2005, 09:24 AM
I am starting to wonder if it's possible to make it through the winter OP. It's still raining out and it makes me want to eat, the snow and ice will be worse. I just can't stay OP in the evenings, though it's easy during the day while kids are up and about, soon as they go down I want to eat though. Dreary days end in dreary thoughts I guess.


I feel like a board hog posting 3 messages in a row so I'll hush up now. Going to try my Winsor Pilates!


11-29-2005, 09:35 AM
ice, i hope you enjoy the gazelle. i have one and i used it for awhile but now i go to the gym instead. i have the same problem with mine as theresa. i have tried everything to get to stop squeaking but nothing works. i just put on headphones and didn't use it if anyone was asleep. it doesn't affect how it works.. it's just an annoying sound.
good luck with the court melissa. hopefully they will understand the situation and do what's best for logan.
i am so with y'all on laundromats. i hate them. i have been avoiding laundry too long and there is so much to do. dh is down to his ugly clothes so i better get to it or he will start wearing my clothes again and that is no good :lol:
i need to get to the gym more this week. why pay $$$ for the membership if i don't go? it's not like i work or do anything useful. a stressful day these days is when i can't beat the evil villain in my pirate video game ;) like today. grrr. the evil marquis de montalban must die!!

11-29-2005, 12:07 PM
I am just about ready to head out the door here pretty soon. Your prayers and thoughts are appreciated. I feel sick to my stomach and like I am on the verge of hives. It did snow a bit last night but rainy this morning so at least I can stop and pick up a few things to get us through the next couple of days. I will let you all know how it goes when I get back.

11-29-2005, 03:16 PM
Kate agreed to the dependency so Logan stays with me. I never had to even go into the court room. Tomorrow the caseworker is picking up Logan to go visit with Kate. I have mixed feelings about it and I am sure I am just being over protective. Even though she is a caseworker I don't know her and I guess I am just funny about sending my babies out anywhere. Her boyfriend was there and giving me nasty looks-like I did this. I will know more later about time lines ect that she will have to do the things she is supposed to do before I can have custody.

11-29-2005, 04:21 PM
all right Melissa- I am so glad you can keep Logan. I think the case worker will see that Logan needs a stable family life and you can provide that.
I hope all will stay calm and easy for you.

Food has been good today but I am snacky hungry now- and nothing seems to make me happy- I need to go do something.. hmmm maybe EXERCISE ;)

Gotta finsh the tree and I am all excited to see who wins the biggest loser- I am such a nerd about things like that-
My dear sweet most wonderful hubby made wreaths for the house- I am so NOT crafty and he can do anything- :p

Candace- I get addicted to old school video games --last year I got a game system of all the old games like mario and pacman etc.. To relieve stress I Kill things- very calming :D Love anything for nintendo - the 1980's original nintendo- (yep it's confirmed I am a nerd!:D )

Have a great afternoon everyone-
I'll see ya'll later!

11-29-2005, 04:53 PM
:carrot: YAY Melissa! I'm glad you didn't have to do anything and get to keep Logan, great news. Is the caseworker going to stay in the room all the time with Logan, or just drop him off for the visit? I would be nervous as well, but if she's going to stay right with him I'm sure it will be okay. How often does he have to go? Now it should be easier to get OP, with this stress behind you for now.

Sandi, I can't wait to see who wins BL as well!


11-29-2005, 05:01 PM
Good Melissa! I'm glad Logan is safely with you.
I am back on OP today and it feels so much better than out of control land. I am also feeling like a big giant bowl of icecream would make me happy too, but I know aftrerwards, I would be miserable and I am learning to think ahead.
It's very gloomy here, back home away from my kids and all my DIL's family. I need to leave them so space to work out their grief together so I am just phoning once a day. My son will call if he needs me.
My house is just a big dirty mess and I haven't drummed up the energy to clean it up. Maybe later.
Speaking of games- has anyone gotten hooked on sudokus yet? You can play on line at various sites. I am trying to stay away cause I did have a short term free cell addiction a while back.

11-29-2005, 08:43 PM
Right now Logan goes to the cps office and the worker is in the room with her. I guess it will be twice a week for two hours. I hate not being there too and I am going to make sure that David is not allowed any visits. I won't feel it is really over until I am granted custody of him. You just never know what the state is going to do anymore and I just hope that they see through her. I just don't see her completing all the requirements. I will find out tomorrow exactly what kind of time frame they will allow her to complete everything. I know I am stressing hard-I have had a headache for two days now.

I haven't played any games in long time. I used to play spyro and crash bandicoot alot but even now I am just too tired at night to even cross stitch and I have been running around like crazy making sure everything is perfect since the caseworker will be here tomorrow.

11-29-2005, 08:54 PM
Melissa-Do you really think she is going to show up for 2 hours 2 times a week? I bet boyfriend creep won't like it. She didn't show up for the girls, so why would she show up for the baby?
I hope that she gets help one day, but first you need to get custody. It sounds mean, but Logan's needs come before Kate's.
Food was ok today. I feel so wiped out by the last few days that I not focusing on food. It helps that there is nothing in the house and I was too lazy to go to the store. I must go tomorrow.

11-29-2005, 09:37 PM
If she follows form, she will be really good for a month or two and then just not show up or call or anything. I know David is going to be really angry. Kate may try to get the visits here quicker thinking that I will let David tag along but I have news for her. I don't want him near me or the kids and that is even if she does wind up marrying him. Jason (SIL) said he will hold off on finalizing the divorce for right now. He is doing it as a favor to me. Katy marries David, it will be a huge huge mistake. I know Jason still loves her but her actions make it impossible for him to stay. I feel for you Laura. I can't imagine all you are going through emotionally.

Food for me is not good. I am kind of stuck until the first and my choices aren't the best but I made a menu and will just muddle through until I can get healthy food in the house again.

11-30-2005, 12:22 AM
Tyler is on his second day of horrible diarrea, I mean rotten as can be, and then Allie started throwing up tonight. She threw up for several hours about every 20 minutes or so. I was making supper when it all started, which no one ate but me :( she is finally asleep, but I'm waiting up awhile since she's been waking up to puke so often...want to make sure it's really over before I tempt myself with sleep.

I was blown away by the results the people on Biggest Loser had tonight. After being back home in thier real lives they lost so much weight and looked amazing. I exercised as much as I could through it, and since it was 2 hours long I got a total of 1 hour in ... not bad, 10 miles for today!


11-30-2005, 01:24 PM
I officially have the tummy bug :cry: I haven't actually thrown up, just have that miserable constant feeling I am going to. I am okay if I lay down, but soon as I sit up or stand it is lurching around in there. Just not fair.


11-30-2005, 02:36 PM
So sorry to hear you guys are all under the weather over there! We are just now getting noses cleared up although josh still has a cough. Logan was the only one who made it through without a hitch.

11-30-2005, 03:08 PM
I am back at work after our awful week. My DIL is holding up ok, but she has a bladder infection which is making her very uncomfortable. and keeping her on the couch.
Food is ok cause I still haven't made it to the store. We are finding old stuff in the freezer and not caring very much. It's easy to stay OP when what is available looks really bad. Maybe later if DH feels like going with me, I'll do a big shopping.
sorry if I sound whinny.

11-30-2005, 03:56 PM
Theresa-Hope you all feel better soon! It went through all 6 of us the week before Thanksgiving, so I feel for you!!
Melissa-Great news about Logan!! I know how hard it is dealing with someone who's using. My little sister(33) has been using for a long time and lost custody of her daughter 8 1/2 years ago. It's really sad, now she has a son that's almost 5 and if his dad had a brain he would fight for custody, but he just lets her have him whenever she wants. It really scares me. :(
Laura-Still sending up prayers for your family. It's good to get back into your normal routine, helps take your mind off things for a little while.

I LOVE The Biggest Loser!! I even made hubby watch it with me last night! He needs to lose about 70 lbs and was very impressed with what those men have accomplished. We had a long talk about it and next week we are going to check out the gym here in town. I already go to Curves but I told him I would go with him a couple times a week.

Still waiting(and waiting) until I can get a new computer, this one gets worse every day!!! The last few days I couldn't type anything cause the keyboard was having fits! I would try to type something and it would end up all funky, like this- if I tried Kathy, I would end up with Kladtrhjyu! Today it just went back to normal?????:?: I would have been able to get one this payday, but hubby finally found the truck he wants. They want 4000. but they will let him bring it home after we pay 2000. So 3 payments in a row of 667. and he can have it for Christmas. I can't tell him no, he works hard for the money and he deserves a truck of his own. We have been using his brothers truck for a second vehicle since we moved here in May. He has another truck and doesn't care, but when you make 26/hour, you should be able to have your own truck!! He said after we pay it off I can look for a van. We rented a Grand Caravan when we went to Reno a few months ago, and I totally fell in love with it!! So much nicer than my old Suburban! Rides so smooth!

Well, gotta go buy cat food. I have the world's loudest cat and he lets you know when the food is gone!!

Hope everyone has a great day!!


OOHH-Forgot to tell you-I LOST 6 POUNDS IN NOVEMBER!!!!!:carrot: :D :carrot: :D ONLY 6 MORE TO GO FOR 50 LBS GONE!!!! WOOHOO! (Then 50 more)

11-30-2005, 05:14 PM
WOW Kathy 6 pounds is awesome! :bravo:
Loved the Biggest loser last night! Really got me motivated to know I CAN DO THIS and i made an exercise sheet out like Theresa does and then-(scary music inserted here) HUBBY's VACATION ---for more :bomb:read Below....

Theresa- I feel for you- went thru it twice and it's bad when the family has it and you do too-

Melissa- I so hope that everthing goes well with Logan and the case worker situation with visitation- I would be paranoid too- very stressful dealing with the state- we have been there with my hubby's son - when he was 5 he got mad at a teacher in Kindergarten and told her he hated the school and wanted to blow it up- this caused all kinds of excitement including the school calling the police and him being suspended -for a terror threat against the school and case workers and DCF and etc.. for months. and HE WAS 5
it was a big mess.

Laura- :hug: for you and your family. and NO you don't sound whiny at all-I am not allowed to play sudokus (i get hooked too easy:) My one boss is addicted to it though! I love free cell -lots of stress tamers there.

whiny is below:

I love my hubby very much :love: he is a wonderful great hubby -BUT he needs to go back to work NOW if possible- My schedule is ALL messed up to no end - I can't exercise in the morning cause he is sleeping in and I can't turn on the light/music /vcr- he wants to be with us- i mean he works 6 days a week 10-12 hours a day and wants us to have time when he is on vacation adn i can understand that BUT we couldn't do our walks this week cause he doesn't walk /exercise /do outdoor stuff. I have snacked way too much and i am so :tantrum: at myself - he has the truck when i am at work so in the afternoons i can't seem to get anything done that I normally do - like get to the store cause he's like why are you buying this etc.. ( i like green beans) or go for a walk or just run around with the kids -I shouldn't complain he is a good and kind and understanding guy- but his idea of a good snack is to finish the half gallon of ice cream made into a banana split. All I want is to be in the 150's by Christmas and i can't seem to get on track. one day is great and the next day flops. Sorry for the :rollpin: I just had to get that out and over with . He does goes back tomorrow -i just didn't think i could deal one more minute without venting.

I really think I need a punching bag or take up boxing...I am looking into it for Jan.
must remember to breathe...
:thanks: for letting me rant!

11-30-2005, 05:46 PM
Well two workers came and logan is on his way for his visit. Kate has a 15 minute window and if she isn't there, she gets no visit. Odessa cried when Logan left so the caseworker can see too how much his sister loves him. Broke her heart too. It seems so odd to not have him here. Her visit is until 4pm and then she will bring him home-sounds really rotten and petty but I hope she is late or doesn't show up-just makes my case stronger. Course if she does show, they will see how she doesn't interact with him. She always had a hard time playing with the kids even when she had them. She only talked to them to tell them no or give a direction, otherwise they were on their own-other than feeding and bathing. Ugh I just hate this-probably mostly because I don't feel in control.

Laura not whining at all and even if you were, you go right ahead all you need to. This takes time and you deserve to take all you need to.

Kathy- I fell in love with biggest loser! I got in toward the end of the season and man if I could be away for 3 months, I would try to get on that show. I cry every stinking week! I cry at extreme home makeover too-LOL Ok so I am a marshmallow-I admit it. I hope you get your puter soon. Nothing worse than working with a uggy one. I had one awhile back I named Dino for obvious reasons.

Sandi-you sound like my mother! My dad was on vacation for most of November and I think he has a bunch of time of in Dec too and she loves him and says he is just a peach but her schedule is thrown off bad when he is around. Can't run the vacuum because he doesn't like the smell? Got me on that one. Can't talk on the phone ect in the am. I don't call before 9a now that he is home but geez I didn't call one morning cause I left here before 9 and when I swung in to drop off invoices to mom, he was out back asking why I didn't call LOL. So you are definately not alone. I have been kicking myself too because I want to be under 200 by christmas and I am just messing up something fierce and it bugs the crap out of me. I need to get the mind set I had before Logan arrived. I at least had the house put together before they got here. I should go clean the bathroom since all I have right now is Odessa and she is busy watching Lazytown.

11-30-2005, 07:02 PM
sandi, i love old-school nintendo. those used to be the only video games i would play. it was all about friday the 13th game and super mario bros. ;)
melissa, i am so glad you get to keep logan. hopefully you will get custody soon.
theresa, sorry y'all are all sick. i think there must be one of those stomach flus going around. i know lots of people who had it. i hope i don't get it. i can't handle throwing up.

12-01-2005, 12:02 AM
I am feeling a tiny bit better now, but our schedule is just shot, we've been napping on and off all day and laying around in between. Hardest thing was Ty isn't sick and is the only one who wanted to eat, so I had to keep him fed even though it made me feel worse. He did let me nap lots, sat by me and played and would kiss my cheek when he walked by, the sweetie. I guess only eating toast and soup will make WI easier this week...and measurements tomorrow. Can you believe it is Dec. already?

Melissa, did Kate show?

Sandi, I feel ya on the hubby being home. When Steve comes home my schedule is upset because he likes to spend time with us, which I enjoy as well, but I still have to get my exercise which he doesn't understand. He hasn't been home this week :cry: I miss him, but it's for the best, he doesn't want to come home until I have all the germs done with and the house scoured down...and I don't blame him one bit.

I am just suprised Ty hasn't gotten this! He's been right here with us the entire time, watching Allie puke like she's a circus freak, and hasn't gotten it. Hopefully he'll escape it somehow.


12-01-2005, 01:47 AM
Kate did show up but the caseworker said Logan just freaked out when they got to the office. I wonder if he thought he wasn't coming back here. He ate good for me, gave me a muddy and was asleep by 7p. I guess next week she wants me to bring him. If he freaks again, I am going to say something about him not going there. It is supposed to be a nice thing for him not a freak out session. It really wigged him out. He wasn't his normal laughing self until he had been home almost 2 hours. Glad you are feeling better over there too. This is not the time of year to be sick. Tomorrow is shoe shopping with the 3 small ones and errend running-Friday is other grandma and some family friends, wic office, and more shots for logan and then saturday they get their pics done. Man talk about everything all at once. I need to find the time to start decorating too. Josh noticed that tomorrow is december so I won't hear the end of it. I will start Decembers' thread too.