Just saw a commercial for some diet pill that was 153/bottle.
I am the hugest skeptic in the world, so unless I see heaps of proof, I am not going to believe one single diet pill works.
This commercial just makes me so angry. Using the "It must work cause it's so expensive" angle. The worst part is so poor shmo is going to fall for this.
I kinda hate to say this but I wish there were stricter regulations on these snake oil salesmen.
Just had to vent, although I would be curuios to see what these "miracle" ingredents are.
thanks all.
RaineyMae7133
03-18-2005, 02:28 PM
I totally agree with you. I cannot stand that commercial, either.
marbleflys
03-18-2005, 02:40 PM
They must have reduced the price....I've seen "Leptopro" in Walmart's diet section for about $36.00 per bottle (for those serious dieters not the casual dieters, oh BARF)...... (what a crock)...I must have looked at the ingredients, but don't remember anything outstandingly special. Just what does "Leptopro" stand for?
MrsJim
03-18-2005, 03:46 PM
Are they still showing that commercial? The one with the lady who is 'warning' people who are NOT 'seriously overweight' to stay away lest they lose too much weight?? :rolleyes:
And of course y'all know that this $153 diet pill has the same stuff in it that the cheaper diet pills have - bitter orange, guarana, etc. etc. Bitter orange is the 'diet pill industry's' subsitute for ephedra right now...
The name doesn't really MEAN anything. I think they got it from "Leptin" which has been researched in the past as a possible way to lose weight, and figured people would glom onto that and think they were related. At least it's not as tasteless a name as 'Anorex'.
And I agree...I do wish they can be stopped from doing business. But at this point, the best course of action to follow is Caveat Emptor - don't believe everything you read...even on message boards...DON'T buy any diet pill until you at LEAST get to see what exactly is in it (and I don't mean 'our proprietary blend of natural herbs that we like to call <insert fancy fictional name here>' - I mean actual INGREDIENTS) and can measure it up against some of the kajillion or so other products on the market - you can also check www.supplementwatch.com to get the skinny on the ingredients as well...and OH yeah...don't expect miracles.
Suzanne 3FC
03-18-2005, 06:27 PM
Marbleflys, the walmart version is not the same as the Leptoprin that is sold via the commercial, though it is no doubt similar in contents and usefulness. I agree with MrsJim, the name is based on "leptin" and is meant to fool you, as are the claims in the commercial.
We did an article on Leptoprin early last year which may interest you. They have changed their formula since, though, and we have the labels of the new products, and really should update our article. However, the stimulant free version sent at least one woman to the emergency room, and she didn't have the bottle with her for the doctor to see what she took. She called leptoprin customer service and they refused to give her the ingredients over the phone! A doctor was finally able to get them to fax it to them, so they could treat her.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/diets/leptoprin-ingredients-exposed.php is our original article. Scroll down to the 4th paragraph and read what the Oprah magazine revealed about their claims. It truly teaches to to take it all with a grain of salt.
We received an incredible amount of email in response to that article, I think we stopped counting after 1,000. ! It was amazing how many people said they felt sick when they read it because they had just ordered it, but called to cancel their orders. It was also amazing how many people said they tried it and either became ill, or had no results at all. We didn't receive ONE positive email in all of that.
The NEW Leptoprin labels are here: http://www.3fatchicks.com/diets/leptoprin/ You'll need Adobe Acrobat installed to view them (which you should have) As you can see, there's still nothing there that you need, and it's still not worth $153.
shhambo
03-18-2005, 07:56 PM
great info. thank-you both.
wow reading about the alergic reactions makes me even madder. I think I am going to write some letters to complain.
As always I will keep to my "complicated" eating plan and exercise(sarc)
FrugalChick
03-30-2005, 08:26 AM
'When is a diet pill worth $153? When it WORKS!'
<rolls eyes>
Tealeaf
03-30-2005, 03:16 PM
Well, if it really did work that would be true enough, I guess.
I hate this commercial also. The way the actress looks right into the camera lens and lies so sincerely. The whole "don't buy this unless you are significantly overweight, it's too powerful for the casual dieter!" angle bugs me too. They are deliberately targetting the most desperate people.
That commercial makes me want to slap someone.
marbleflys
03-30-2005, 04:55 PM
throughout the ages, if you can believe something will magically give you weight loss or hair growth on your head, people would buy it.......
anyone who can't fit into their clothes one day and sees the commercial would secretly WANT to believe it, no matter how much baloney it is......the manufacturer is banking on that, and unfortunately is still in business, making $$ off the scam....if they can still run a commericial on TV during AM prime time. What pisses me off is that many of these ads are sponsors or FITTV or other exercise shows........that are supposed to advocate Health....(I don't know if they are on Discovery or not).
If I had the time, I'd complain formally.........
FrugalChick
03-30-2005, 08:27 PM
I took my MIL to her gyno appt a couple of weeks ago and was looking through magazines. One of them was for that new IUD which isn't an IUD, but it is an inter uterine devise of sorts...anyway, the whole magazine 'taught' you about controlling your menstration, birth control, menopause, etc. And wouldn't you know it? This product was listed in every single article. The whole magazine was promoting this product. I'm sorry...but when companies do that, it totally discredits them. Wouldn't they say ANYTHING in order to sell a product to you? OF COURSE!
I'm noticing there are other magazines that do that too. A lot of them I subscribe to. And it really ticks me off because I know that the information that I find in the magazines aren't accurate. It's really frustrating!
If you're going to give me information--fine. But give it to me unbiased and let me weight both sides~
marbleflys
03-31-2005, 12:36 PM
Isn't an IUD an Intra Uterine Device, hence the initials, I.U.D?....I used this birth control method years ago, but thought it was no longer a treatment of choice since Norplant or patch or depo-provera is easier...less invasive on the body functions?
just curious.....and yes, I agree about the magazines promoting all the junky false advertisements....
midwife
03-31-2005, 02:45 PM
Ahhh, birth control! One of my favorite topics...
Norplant was pulled off the market several years ago.
Depo provera is a shot of progesterone a woman can get every three months.
Pros are that you don't take a pill every day, menses can cease
Cons are recent data showing bone density loss, having to go get shots and lots of spotting
IUDs: definitely still a treatment of choice. There are 2 kinds, the copper IUD (good for 10 years) and the Mirena (plastic with progesterone-good for 5 years)
Pros: have it placed and it lasts for years...no pills or shots to remember, the copper one has no hormones, so for women who want to avoid hormones it is a good choice. The Mirena has a small hormonal effect on the uterine lining, so that women frequently have light periods or no periods.
Cons: not appropriate for women who might be exposed to STDs.
Patch: same drugs as in combined oral contraceptives, just absorbed through a patch. Have to remember to change the patch once a week. Good birth control, if it doesn't fall off. :lol:
I think in my practice IUDs are probably the most popular, followed by the patch or pills. Depo is falling out of favor due to the bone loss concerns.
Anyway, women should choose a method in partnership with their midwife, doc, or other provider.
Jen
FrugalChick
04-01-2005, 05:47 PM
It's like the IUD, but it's different in that it doesn't last as long--the Mirena thing...
marbleflys
04-01-2005, 05:58 PM
hmmmm, I need to check this out...I dread the trip to the obie/gyn....but it is past time to go anyway. thanks!
FatVictoria
09-07-2005, 08:37 PM
It's a cheaper version of Leptrprin and actually within my price range, especially with my 20% Gold Card discount. :)
Anyway, it says it's a stimulant and suppoedly also reduces appetite. I've tried several other diet pills before with little success. We'll see if this is in that catagory. It was $40 for a month supply, but I got it for $32 with my discount. It's the generic version of the one that screams "Not to be used as a casual diet-aid!" Yeah, right.
I just took the first two pills about an hour ago, so we'll see how this goes.
Has anyone had any success using Leptopril (or Leptoprin) to augment a diet and excercise program? I just want a little help. I can lose weight very well on my own, but it's hard and takes forever.
Suzanne 3FC
09-07-2005, 10:03 PM
You might be interested in an article we wrote when the original Leptoprin came out
We do need to update it to go with the new formula, and also to include some of the "knock-offs", but there's no reason to believe that the results will be any different.
We were astounded at the response from this article. We received countless thousands of email from readers, many of which had ordered the product, but cancelled it or returned it. We did not hear from one person that had a positive response. Even the makers of Leptoprin were worried about the response we received from the article, and they created a canned message calling us names and telling people not to believe us. It was an interesting experience :)
FatVictoria
09-07-2005, 10:14 PM
Thanks! I'll look it up and read it.
I'd NEVER spend $153 on a diet pill. When that commertial comes on TV and she asked "When is a diet pill worth $153 a bottle" I always shout at the TV "Never!" lol I won't even pay for the $75 knock off. But $32 was too good to resist. :lol:
FatVictoria
09-08-2005, 12:29 AM
What are your experience with Leptopril?
So far it's made me a bit jittery and I have a headache, but it could just be a stress headache since I get those.
marbleflys
09-08-2005, 04:28 PM
They also sell it at Wal-Mart & possibly Sam's....I think the price is about $25-27.00. Other than seeing it on the shelf, I have no information.
QuilterInVA
09-08-2005, 05:37 PM
Once again, there is no magic pill ... use your arms to push yourself away from the table, use your feet to take a walk. Eating less and exercising more is the ONLY way to effective permanent weight loss.
FatVictoria
09-08-2005, 08:16 PM
Why is it that people automatically assume I'm looking for a magic pill? I said exactly the opposite.
Amarantha
09-08-2005, 10:45 PM
Wow, from looking at your stats, I'd say you were doing great and can, indeed, lose weight very well on your own. :)
FatVictoria
09-09-2005, 01:18 AM
I'm just looking for a little help. I gained in August due to two long absences from home and the second absense I was just lucky to eat...eating low carb was pretty out of the question. I'm being really strict in September but want a little boost with my weight loss. I have to do better than I have been.
So far so good for September.
Keeping my weight below 150 has been a problem. I don't know if I'll ever make 140 at this rate...
Amarantha
09-09-2005, 01:40 AM
I know what you mean; it's been a loooonngg slow process for me since the 160s. I think it's just the nature of the thing. :)
Seriously, do you eat nuts and nut butters. I swear by natural peanut and almond butter for suppressing appetite and (IMO, no scientific facts involved so no one has to cite studies at me or anything :) ) it increases my metabolism for short periods and helps me break through plateaus. It's also very satisfying and takes the place of desserts, plus it's healthy and cheaper than pills. :lol:
Good luck.
FatVictoria
09-09-2005, 01:59 AM
I can't keep nuts in the house. Once I start I can't stop. I keep my overall fat fairly high - between 90 and 110g a day right now. I'm low carbing, so my fat has to be higher to give my body plenty of fuel to burn.
jillybean720
09-09-2005, 09:07 AM
Wow--I dabble in low-carb, but my fats are still normally under 30 grams per day. I thought the idea was to be high-protein? I tend to eat ham, turkey sausage, white skinless chicken, fish, things like that, and I don't have any trouble losing weight while doing so.
I see that you are extremely close to your goal. No matter what diet or shakes or pills or exercise you do, it is a fact that the closer you are to goal, the more difficult it is to lose the weight. The closer your body is to a "normal" weight, the less it feels the need to keep burning, I suppose.
I have taken OTC pills in the past (and like you, not as a "magic" pill, but only in addition to diet and exercise), but I would certainly steer clear of ANYTHING that makes you feel jittery, as it is clearly affecting your body in an unpleasant way (probably messing with your heart). I have found Dexatrim can help to curb my appetite without making me feel jittery or like my heart was going to pound right through my chest :dizzy: The only affect I got from it was, in fact, a reduced desire to eat (less hunger). I'm certainly not endorsing Dexatrim--just saying that I don't think it's at all safe to continue taking something that makes you feel uncomfortable.
FatVictoria
09-09-2005, 04:17 PM
Wow--I dabble in low-carb, but my fats are still normally under 30 grams per day. I thought the idea was to be high-protein? I tend to eat ham, turkey sausage, white skinless chicken, fish, things like that, and I don't have any trouble losing weight while doing so.
30g is way too low on low carb. If your body doesn't have carbs to burn, it needs something else, and fat is the best. (If you are burning protein for energy, your body is hurting!) I keep my protein over 100g a day, and the government RDA is only 50g. I keep the carbs anywhere from 35-80g a day, though I'm on the low end of that right now, trying to kick my weight loss into gear. But without the carbs to burn, my body needs extra fat for fuel.
Amarantha
09-09-2005, 11:02 PM
Victoria, I don't do low carb purposely (think carbs are good if they are the good kind) but since I dropped sugar and white flour, I seem to have a problem getting enough carbs so sometimes it seems that way. I think it's interesting that you mention eating more fats for energy as your strategy. It's sort of mine, also. I think I need way more fat than is often recommended and I am just beginning to realize that fat isn't this bad thing I always thought it was ... it does give me the energy to get through the day and it satisfies my hunger, stabilizes my blood sugar and I continue to lose a little weight every now and then, as long as I keep my fat intake high enough and get enough protein. I'm not even really picky about the kind of fat (except trans fat) ...
FatVictoria
09-10-2005, 01:35 AM
Fat does not make us fat, yes. And the only bad kind on Atkins is trans-fat. Saturated fat is okay.
My insides are tied up tonight, but it's not the diet pills - it's the high level of sugar alcohols in the sugar free pecan delights at the movie theater. It always happens like that. I'll be fine in the morning.
145.6 this morning. My weight will be up tomorrow, though. Yesterday I could feel myself dropping water weight, and today I feel myself gaining that back.
crazy4disney06
09-10-2005, 09:45 PM
I lost over 120 pounds with Atkins and never was my fat that high. Low carb does not HAVE to be all high fat.....I always ate lean proteins and veggies and lost an adverage of 10 + pounds a month....
jillybean720
09-10-2005, 10:13 PM
Yeah, I was pretty sure that the idea behind low-carb was to force your body to burn what it already has stored instead of carbs, not new fats that you are eating. I mean, if it works for you, then that is awesome, but as for me, even when I am low-carb, I still stay well below 2000 calories and below 40 grams of fat and have never had a problem. But hey, we are all different :) I also definitely still watch my saturated fat--after all, I don't want to lose weight and die of a heart attack when I'm thin :dizzy:
Amarantha
09-11-2005, 02:04 PM
Wanted to clarify that I do not eat a higher fat diet because I am low carbing, I eat it because it is better for my health, IMO. This goes against the conventional thinking in some circles, but I do not care for the conventional thinking. :)
Also I posted this earlier but deleted it because I didn't want to get into this area, but just noting that products like Dexatrim, IMO, could be dangerous to people with some medical conditions, so of course it'd be wise to check with the doc before trying it, IMO.
jillybean720
09-11-2005, 04:31 PM
I absolutely agree--anything (OTC or otherwise...dexatrim, hydroxycut, leptopril, ANYTHING) should certainly be approached with caution. If your doctor has any concerns at all, I would definitely steer clear. However, if your doctor is like mine, he/she says there is no magic pill, but try it if you must...but even if you get the "okay" from a doc, be VERY attentive to your body--rapid heartbeat, feelings of anxiety, feeling jittery, or feeling pretty much anything out of the ordinary are definitely signs that whatever pill you're taking is probably not a good idea. I had a roommate once who was taking a diet pill (some random stuff from Walmart) and was feeling very jittery and overly-energetic (as in, she would clean the entire apartment at like 2am :dizzy: ), so she finally stopped--here's hoping it didn't cause any real damage (she definitely didn't consult with a doctor). Let us know how the Leptopril has been working for you, though, Victoria. I certainly hope the headaches were actually caused by stress and not the pills. Keep us posted :)
Amarantha
09-11-2005, 08:35 PM
Jill, might I just interject that your weight ticker tells the tale ... you are doing great with your journey.
Lizzyg
09-11-2005, 09:02 PM
This is off topic, but I saw that commercial a few times today, and it reminded me of this thread. The wording they use in the Leptopril ad cracks me up.
She says "If you are significantly overweight you may have seen this ad: (it shows the original commercial with the blonde woman selling the pill for $153).
It makes it sound like you can only see the commercial if you are overweight. But if you're not, you don't see it. :lol: lol maybe I'm weird, but it just makes me laugh every time I see it.
I personally can not see paying that much for any type of diet aid, unless it was gym equipment ;)
~Liz
Amy8888
09-12-2005, 03:07 PM
This is off topic, but I saw that commercial a few times today, and it reminded me of this thread. The wording they use in the Leptopril ad cracks me up.
She says "If you are significantly overweight you may have seen this ad: (it shows the original commercial with the blonde woman selling the pill for $153).
It makes it sound like you can only see the commercial if you are overweight. But if you're not, you don't see it. :lol: lol maybe I'm weird, but it just makes me laugh every time I see it.
Heh, I've had the same reaction. If you're skinny, you have blinders to the original commercial. If you were able to see it, you MUST be fat!
I don't know...$32, $153, all seems like a rip-off to me! Does anyone else suspect it's the same company responsible for both ads, and the first just couldn't get rid of its overwhelming supply of the stuff? (I mean, since the newer commercial shows the older one, it seems pretty obvious something like that is going on).
flipafart
09-12-2005, 08:02 PM
be careful your health is important quick fixes may leave permanent damage to the body.
fly2raven
09-13-2005, 09:52 AM
Hi everyone,
I just found this website yesterday - so I am very new here. My name is Nicole and I am very happy to have found such a place. :D
Not only did I find this website yesterday, I also started using Leptopril yesterday as well, at least it was my first full day. I had taken one capsul in the afternoon on Sunday to curb my appetite. What I have noticed so far - I am definitely not as hungry and I seem to think less about food.
But I am having some problems sleeping, both Sunday and Monday I was able to only get about 4 hours of rest. I felt fine when I woke up, but I can't see my body being able to go without sleep for a long amount of time before crashing badly. I am 27 years old now and the older I get the harder it has been for me to go without sleep. I used to have a crazy tech job when I was younger and I would work through-out the night and into the next day and so on and so on...needless to say...I can't do that now. :dizzy: I usually need around 7 hours or more to feel good and rested when I wake up in the morning.
My question is this - has anyone else here used this product or another generic of it. I know there are a couple on the market right now. And if so, what were your own reactions? How long did it take for your body to adjust to the stimulant properties of the product?
Please let me know - thanks!
Nicole
Suzanne 3FC
09-13-2005, 06:03 PM
Hi Nicole, welcome to 3FC :) I'm not surprised that you had some problems sleeping, which is particularly bad because studies have shown that adequate sleep actually helps weight loss. Leptopril contains a lot of stimulants. At a glance, it looks like about half of the ingredients are caffiene or a caffiene-like substances. You will probably drop a few pounds of water at first, since these have diuretic properties.
In the long run, though, you still have to follow the same diet and exercise routine as everyone else, but you risk health complications due to the supplement use. The list of potential side effects is scary. That's one of the reasons why we don't support the use of weight loss supplements in our community, and focus on diet and exercise.
We're going to review this product for the website, hopefully in the next two weeks.
fly2raven
09-15-2005, 03:05 AM
Hi Suzanne,
Thank you for the information and I do appreciate your concern. I understand that diet and exercise should be my main focus during this time (and it is), but I believe that the short term use of a dietary aid is going to help me meet my goal.
I will look for that review in a few weeks.
Thanks.
LovesBassets
09-16-2005, 09:56 AM
Just what does "Leptopro" stand for?
LOL...well in veterinary lingo "Lepto" is short for "Leptospirosis" which can kill a puppy in about 24-hours flat :o .
I HATE that commercial, too. Do you notice how that woman never BLINKS? Is that s'posed to make her seem more "honest" or something? I'd really like to smack her :devil: .
SusanB
09-16-2005, 10:08 AM
It's the money that drives me bonkers. :tantrum: For $153 you could buy ... my bike ... cross country skiis ... 3 good pairs of walking shoes .... a starter set of weights .... resistance bands ... several good workout tapes ... about 80 lbs of low fat cottage cheese ... and these things would actually help you. :s:
almostheaven
09-16-2005, 12:48 PM
For $153 you could buy ... ... about 80 lbs of low fat cottage cheese ... and these things would actually help you. :s:
LOL Yeah, cause there's no way I could eat that much cottage cheese and it would mold and be thrown out and then I'd really lose weight. :lol: