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09-05-2005, 03:49 AM
Hello everyone!

I have not been able to read up on all of you, as I was away on holiday these past few weeks. I'm going to read up etc, but just wanted to say that I was back first.
First of all, I hope you are all OK, as I have closely followed Katrina and her devastating effects these past days. The destruction seems incredible!

Hope this finds you all well, I am going to read up some now...


09-05-2005, 04:17 AM
Just read up and saw that all of you are more or less OK!

Happy belated BD Susan!

Pookie, I saw your posts elsewhere and saw that you have came a long way. My cousin has just had WLS ( a few days ago), she has been 160 kilo for a long time (352 pounds) and nothing else worked for her. In the Netherlands they usually only permanently shrink the stomach in even more extreme cases, so she had an elastic band placed. I hope it works, as it will change her life.

I was in Greece these past weeks visiting my 8 months pregnant sister and grandmother. I had a wonderful relaxing time.
We had a great time going to the beach and swimming with my sister (who refused to wear a one-piece and flounted her big tummy in a nice new bikini). The only downside being all these ignorant ladies commenting on my sisters pregnancy and (God forbid) swimming while pregnant. You would not believe the weird things people still believe about being pregnant and exercising (it is "dangerous for the baby and did my sister consult her physician", the water is "too cold for pregnant women", my sister "should wear shoes in the water which would make it more easy to walk when getting out onto the stony beach", "she should stay out of any sun" etc etc ... Although we had a lot of fun telling them off, ha! As our stretch of beach is a "family beach", this was the main daily entertainment for everyone within earshot, too.

Exercise: 2 weeks of swimming 1 1/2 to 23 hours a day
Food: Greek traditional, portion controlled mostly
Weight: will tell you tomorrow

Glad to be back,


09-05-2005, 06:15 AM

Lieke welcome back ! I think you must have a great time in greece. I hope you did not gain too much. I would, on that diet. I really love greek food.

It is glorious weather overhere. warm and sunny, quite unlike our usual grey and rain. I ran outside for 1 hour today.


09-05-2005, 07:42 AM
I made it through the weekend! :dance:

Not entirely OP but closer than any other weekend! I had 1 slice of apple strudel on Saturday with an OP rest of day. Then had some crispy seaweed and prawn crackers (both deep fried) and some white :o pasta! Then I had apple crumble with custard :T and I reallly really enjoyed it and didn't get all huffy about it! Most of all, I stopped at 1 slice of crumble and on Saturday I recognised that I was wanting to eat for the sake of it (I've been on my own this weekend) and stopped! Hoorah for weekends! :D

LBW this evening and back kick practice. I even did back kicks on Sat, but forced myself to rest on Sunday!

Looking towards a healthy rest of week!

09-05-2005, 02:30 PM
Hi all,

Spent last week lurking more or less cause I spent most of my PC time checking out all the info on Katrina. Un-freakin-believable is all I can say about the storm, the government response time, the poor people that were unable to evacuate, the reporting, etc. I'm having a clothing drive at my house today for 4 families that made it out and got to Memphis, but have nothing left but what they had on when they jumped in their cars.

I got to the gym this morning so will have very sore legs tomorrow to go with my very sore chest and tris. Yes, I'm back lifting again and it feels great.

Happy Labor Day to all. Stay OP and UPBEAT all week!!!


09-05-2005, 04:48 PM
:hyper: WHOOOOOO BABY! :hyper: That were a crackin' workout gromit! ;)

My legs will barely be able to drag my sorry self up the stairs to work tomorrow! It better be a desk day tomorrow, none of this roaming up and down to the workshop! Oh yeah, then I get to take them kickboxing! They are going to HATE me! :rofl:

Did, 3x10 squats, 2x10 split squats :eek: . 3x10 stiff legged deadlifts and 3x10 calf raises! :faint: I :love: it! :D

I promised myself some apple crumble if I did my back kicks (which I did), but I worked out so hard I feel a bit ill now! Think a nice long bath is required and then a lovely early night. Hmmmmmm bliss!

:goodvibes: Peace out everyone!

09-06-2005, 01:53 AM
WTG, 2F. I hear ya about the stomach issues - mine rebelled after my 45 min lifting + 30 min on elliptical session today. Tis ok now tho.

Happy Labor Day to all 'muricans and happy monday (or tuesday probably now) to everyone else. My gym was open today which I was very psyched about. I took the weekend off, essentially, and it felt good to get back in the swing of things.

Oh, I have a topic: what does everyone take for vitamins/supplements? I recently started taking flaxseed pills, which seems to be going fine. I know you can get it as the oil and take it straight or w/ stuff, but that sounds a bit gag-worthy to me. I also take a multivitamin, Ca/Mg/Zn, and glucosamine/chondrotin. I was looking into glutamine to help w/ muscle strength, but it seems pretty pricey per volume.

09-06-2005, 04:32 AM
I take 500mg glucosamine with a cod liver oil and multivitamin. Then another 500mg glucosamine in the evening. I thought it had helped with my creaky spine, but it came back with a vengence last night! :doh:

I also have some flaxseed oil in the fridge... I haven't used it yet! :lol:

09-06-2005, 06:28 AM
hi LWL,

I take multivitamin, glucosamine + chondroite for the aching joints, and calcium + magnesium for the bohes.

Tiki, Glad to see you back !! Over here I find myself utterly amazed at the Katrina cathastrophe. Imagine that they had two whole days AFTER the storm and then the dikes broke and the city was flooded. We have special taxes that we pay for the water management as the country is mainly below sea level. So if there is a storm, the guarding of the dike is intensified: Normally the dike guards inspect every dike at certain intervals, but if a bad storm comes they are sent out to check every kilometer of risk dike more intensively so that action can be taken (sandbags, bulldozers, neighborhood volunteers, the army if needed) to repair the dike if there is a weak spot.

Today I did 30 mins stationary bike and 40 mins UBW. my arms are almost falling off.

Have a great day all,

09-06-2005, 01:42 PM
Hi LwL,

about vitamin supplements, I usually only take 1 big multivitamin a few times a week. I have not had any great results using 1 single supplement for a long period of time, so I currently leave it at that. I really don't know what to believe any more as most of the articles I read do not have any scientific data or research like double blind studies on a lot of people (hundreds in stead of say 20) attached to them.
I do not seem to miss out on anything...

Tiki, Katrina is a major topic around the world, nobody actually seems to be able to get how HUGE the loss of lives and damage really is, it sounds unreal. I have been checking the news every five minutes to keep up, too.

Exercize today:
housework and throwing heavily sarcastic comments at my colleagues...sigh


09-06-2005, 02:49 PM
And why are we throwing sarcastic comments at the co-workers, Lieke?

I was a mean mom this AM. My crew woke me up at 3AM (they haven't started school yet) even though they knew I was trying to get enough rest to get up at 5AM to workout. So...when I got home from the gym at 7AM, I woke THEM up and made them fold laundry, clean the stairs and take out the trash. I bet they won't bother me tonite.

I hit shoulders this AM, ran for about 6 minute (trying to ease back into it) and did 30 on the elliptical.


09-06-2005, 03:45 PM
Your kids haven't started school yet, Tiki? :eek: Ds started this morning. Yeesh, that high school bus comes early. He should be home any minute now.

Suuplements- I take BUCKETS, but most of them I started taking because of my fibromylagia, rather than for nutrition or because of lifting. I feel better, so I keep taking them. I do take a scoop of L-glutamine per day in my 10 am shake. It really does make a difference in the soreness of my muscles and recovery time. I buy the 1000g cannister of powder which usually costs around $40, but it lasts forever. I also take a multi, glucosamine, coQ-10, omega 3-6 oils, calcium, magnesium and zinc, chromium polyniconante, and extra C.

Today was cardio and light chest. My tendonitis is still bad, so it's hard to lift heavy. Maybe stupid to lift at all....


09-06-2005, 06:59 PM
Hey all,

Just hopped in to say howdy. I've been pretty busy lately but I had a lower back injury that's sidelined me for a while, so I decided to spend some time catching up here at 3FC.

I take glutamine, it helps soreness, and according to the book The Diet Cure, it also has the added benefit of reducing cravings. I have
no idea if this has anything scientific to back it up, so please don't quote me on this one! I haven't used it for that, just for the soreness, but I thought it was worth mentioning. In case it's true.

Mel, tendonitis is just no fun. I had it in my elbow last year, and a series of ultrasound, e-stim and acupuncture helped a lot. Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks all for staying out here & keeping everybody motivated.


09-06-2005, 10:12 PM
Mel -- I feel for you with the tendonitis. I had it in my elbow and it still bothers me once in awhile -- like when I do biceps, or if I am doing lunges and holding DB. Does it ever completely go away?

Tiki -- You did what I have wanted to do many times!

Today was legs and cardio. I'm doing much better on squats.


09-07-2005, 04:33 AM
Poor Mel.

You know how I was saying I wasn't getting sore... Well I take it ALL back! All of it! Please just make it go away! :rofl: I also understand the crane for the toilet! :eek: I feel well and truly worked out! Split squats RULE!

Did an hour kickboxing last night. Almost mastered the back kick. More practice tonight and tomorrow and the next day... :lol: Only 7 more lessons till my grading, when I should be an orange belt! YAY! :dance:

09-07-2005, 05:44 AM

Tiki- When are your kids going back to school ?

Mel - good luck and take it easy with the tendonitis.

2f - WTG on the orange belt !

Hot day today here. I did UBW yesterday but my arms are not sore much. Guess its time to change weights. Today I biked 30 mins, 10 km. I plan to add 30 min run if it does not get too hot.


09-07-2005, 10:29 AM
Mel, tendonits bites. Take care of yourself so you can get well quick and get back to slinging around the big stuff!

2F, I'm sure you will do well and get that orange belt. You rock!

My kids start school tomorrow. We all went to bed early last night, but major cramps woke me up at 3AM. I'm out of my regular Tylenol so I popped 4 Cold and Flu tablets to knock out the pain and ended up knocking myself out as well. I will hit the gym this afternoon instead.


09-07-2005, 12:23 PM
Hey gang - I'm still here - swamped at work so trying to keep myself OP, but it's difficult when I'm stressed... No excuse I know, so trying to get myself back on the wagon!

09-07-2005, 01:33 PM

Did nice hike with kids on Monday, took day of rest yesterday (had enough stress of starting school for kids - all of them go to different schools and two of them go to schools 20km apart which were starting one after the other).

Today did 20 min cardio and plan gym upper body.

Have a question: why do I have problems running outside as my knees hurt but never have the same problem on treadmill? I sighned up for relay in November, and now I am afraid that I will not be able to do it as I seem to be in pain when I run outside, so I skip running outside and keep to treadmill...


09-07-2005, 03:31 PM
Maybe its the impact when your feet are hitting the pavement. How old are your running shoes? Also maybe cushioned socks might help. You are the opposite of me. Running on the treadmill hurts my shins and left knee whereas running outside on a track is fine.


09-07-2005, 04:07 PM
I've been biking everyday (but yesterday) but I haven't done any weights in a while. It felt good to do upper body this afternoon.

09-07-2005, 05:12 PM
My pair of shoes at work is about 3 month old, I j ust bought new one for at home, and I do not see any difference. I have to say, it is probably hard surfaces which are not helping me in running. Thanks for suggestion though.

09-08-2005, 12:25 AM
Sandy, I would say it's probably the surfaces, yeah. Is there an unpaved trail you could run on?

Tiki, hope you're feeling better, and Mel too. The ankle I messed up the other week is still a bit tender; I've done some walking and the elliptical but nothing really fast, and no calf/shin weighted stuff yet. It's weird, the range of motion is fine, but I'll just be sitting and feel the side of my ankle feel warm out of nowhere, which I guess means there's some damage still healing there? Shrug.

09-08-2005, 09:15 AM
Sorry all, I have been in lurk mode. Not much to say - can't run due to ligament strain and looking for a cardio that gives me the same release as running (or "wogging" - that walking/jogging thing I do). So far I have been limited to the bike and hope to start the elliptical this weekend. Then work my way back. The marathon in Dec is still a possibility, though I have pulled out of the 12 mile canyon run Sept 17 and my 1/2 marathon Sep 24 is looking "iffy". The fall race I really want to do is a 10-miler Oct 2 and that still looks good. On the other hand, my lifting is good. I do need to get my food under control again, and today is the day.

Sandy - "Runner's World Complete Book of Women's Running" talks about knee problems and suggests it is usually tied to biomechanics and overpronation. This is particularly problematic in women due to greater quadricepts angle that results from the size of or hips (I am now an expert on overpronation - see my ligament comment above). Have you been properly fit with shoes and observed for gait analysis by someone who knows such things? My doctor has also recommended taping my ankles before I walk or run. Get yourself to a physical therapist, podiatrist, or running store that does a gait analysis. Good luck and keep running!

09-08-2005, 09:31 AM

Glad to see all your post all! I think everyone isore or less getting into routine again.

Sandy - take care your don't hurt yourself !
Ellen - I hope you heal soon !
Tiki - great to see you are back rocking !

Today it is hot again. I did 25 mins rowing machine and LBW. No run because i am babying my L hip, which seems to be healing OK. Only thing bothering now is sore hands, sore fingerjoints. I hope it is not arthritis, but I cannot think of anything else

have a great day all,

09-08-2005, 12:40 PM
:rofl: Ellen - wogging! I knew there was a word for it! :lol:

Psyching myself up for double kickbox. My granny's been taken to hospital so it could be a hectic weekend!

09-08-2005, 12:53 PM
Rabbit, I liked that subliminal message in your post - everyone "isore or less". I'm definitely sore and luvin it.

Laura, I am fine. I was talking about how treadmills affect me which is why I never use them anymore. I'm a track chick nowadays.

Double Kickbox? Sounds like a lot of calories gone today. I hope all is well with your granny.

YAYYAYAYAYAYAY!!! School started today!!!! Life goes back to normal!


09-09-2005, 05:12 AM
Yes lots of calories gone last night! :dance: Back kicks progressing from absolutely terrible to just plain bad! :lol: I can now almost do them without falling over completely!

Went to bed at 10.30 worn out, then got a phone call at 5 past midnight. DF had left his keys at work and wanted letting in. It took him 10 minutes to get to the door after he rang! Couldn't he have just rung me when he got in the building?? SO had to force myself to stay awake for 10 mins, then when he got in bed, I couldn't sleep for an hour! :doh:

Needless to say I am in ZOMBIE mode today! :rofl:

Not heard much more about granny apart from she may have a ruptured stomach ulcer! NICE! She's having a laporoscopy today and then they will know what's up!

09-09-2005, 10:33 AM
I hope her laporoscopy goes okay and they are able to diagnose and get your granny well. And good job on the improvement to the back kicks. I'm sure you do it much better than what you are letting on.

I did back and bis today but for some dumb reason, forgot to do my deadlifts. Will do them after work. My food has been EFFORTLESSLY clean since Monday except that the calories are too low. Ahhh, I guess I'm still in the honeymoon stage of gettting into shape. If I don't get to the store and restock on the staples, I'm gonna have a "fight" with myself and then the honeymoon will be over.


09-09-2005, 03:08 PM
Gym after work tonight for some leg work and cardio. :) We've been moving furniture around at work to make a place for a new position so I've been get some strength work done. :rofl: Although the work area of our library is so tight already that adding in another workspace has been a real group effort and some "thinking outside the box" to come up with an arrangement that will work. We are restricted by (a) electrical outlets and (b) a large 10' island in the middle of the room (used for processing/mending books).

09-09-2005, 10:50 PM
I'm coming out of lurk mode too, Ellen. I've been fighting the "IDon'tHaveTimeFor1.5HrsOfCardioSoI'mNotGoingAtAll" excuse. I feel embarrassed that I've only been working out 2-3X/wk instead of my usual 5-6.

I gave myself permission today to cut back on the cardio and I think it will make a big difference. I'm at approximately my (original, although now it's lower) goal weight but I'm still so flabby that I think I want to concentrate on firming up what's underneath and stop worrying so much about the fat coming off

I've been taking a belly dancing class for the last few weeks. It includes a warmup with 30 plie (sp?) type (unweighted) squats and everyone in the class except me & the instructor is freaking out by the last one which makes me feel a little better about my lack of movement lately.

Also went rock climbing for the first time last weekend. Hmmm, what can you do at the gym to strengthen the muscle that makes your ring finger bend at that last joint?:dizzy:

09-10-2005, 03:37 PM
Coming out of lurk mode here too. We should have a ghost smiley :)

I've hard a horrible time with food for the past two weeks. I'm descending...nope, I'm there...into eating disorder ****. Somehow I need to pull myself out of it, but I don't know how I fell into to it again. I've hidden the scale, but my pants are getting tighter. Workouts are good despite the tendonitis. I just take a bucket of anti-inflammatories and keep going like the everyready bunny. I'm moving plenty, but then undo it all late at night. I haven't found the right pep talk or disgusted myself enough yet.

We are sitting here waiting for a bobcat to be delivered this afternoon- one of those mini-front end loader things. We had 20 cubic yards of dirt delivered this morning, and dh can't wait to turn the mini ski hill that's in our back yard into a flat backyard :lol: There was a small retaining wall there until last weekend and a terraced area, but the landscaping timbers were slowly turning into mulch. We pulled that out last week (really helped my shoulder). The original plan was to just replace it with a new wall, but I began to think that sounded like too much work. I was little surprised at how quickly dh agreed tp go with the terraforming idea until I realized he was racing down to the BIG TOOL rental place. Apparently, every guy thinks driving one of these things is the coolest thing next to...lol, you know!

Julia-There really is something that you can do to strengthen your fingers for climbing. Get some of the squishy putty stuff (I have no idea what it's really called and just searched the Sports Authority web site with no results) for grip strength. Just work it with your fingers when you aren't doing anything else with your hands.

Well, here's the bobcat! boys and their toys ;)


09-10-2005, 05:39 PM
I've hard a horrible time with food for the past two weeks. ... I've hidden the scale, but my pants are getting tighter. Workouts are good despite the tendonitis. I just take a bucket of anti-inflammatories and keep going like the everyready bunny. I'm moving plenty, but then undo it all late at night. I haven't found the right pep talk or disgusted myself enough yet.


OK, first, this is noway to be celebrating your birthday weekend. Now, try this pep talk (firmly based in reality): The weight and tight pants may not all be because of your eating. Your late-night snacking is probably not as detrimental as you think. The tightness may also be related to the anti-inflammatories and your body's response to them. I know that both my Dad and I get edema (i.e., fluid retention) from ibuprofin. I get PMS-y bloat and his feet would get so swollen he could not put shoes on. Scary, huh? So, yes, some of your gain is probably related to your food choices, but a lot may have to do with medication your body is not used to processing. Give yourself a break on the self-talk, accept that you are more concerned with healing the tendonitis, get back in control of your food choices (rather than the other way around) and go work in the yard and make sure your husband doesn't run into your neighbor's car with the bobcat.

(Geez, I just gave MEL a pep talk? What is this world coming to? Next thing I know Ilene will be giving up running and Tiki will break up with Billy ;)) Scary I tell you, just scary

09-10-2005, 09:21 PM
Ellen, you are CRAZY!!!!:joker: I'm cracking up at your ending to the post. The whole time I was reading it I was like "Wow, I never thought MEL would need a pep talk" so your ending was right on time.

Mel, I've been where you are, heck I think I just left there this past weekend. I remember once you yelled at me to ":drill: STAY OUT OF BED WITH LITTLE DEBBIE!!" That got me out of that tailspin. So maybe it will work for you. " :coach: STOP STICKING CRAP INTO YOUR MOUTH AT NIGHT!"

Seriously though, you shouldn't get on track because we look up to you and expect you to, you should get on track because you expect you to and you deserve for you to.

Have fun supervising the "kids and their toys" and make sure they play nicely.


09-11-2005, 05:50 AM
Seriously though, you shouldn't get on track because we look up to you and expect you to, you should get on track because you expect you to and you deserve for you to.

Well said, Tiki!

Ellen - the world is very, very strange at times!

09-11-2005, 12:51 PM
Tiki -- Seriously though, THAT was very well said.... Did you hear that Miss Mel ??

Ellen -- At this point in time, I :love: running!! I won't stop but I do need some serious motivation lately :(. I'm not a comptetitive person so I don't want to train for a marathon or anything, but I am a little bored with myself lately. So I've decided to take triathlon stroke swimming lessons, I start this week... Then I may invite myself to run with some ladies I see regularly running on Tuesdays and Thursdays around 4PM...

Today I ran to the gym did back and biceps and afterwards I took the long way home and did a total of 10k...

Well I'm off to do some much needed laundry... so our mantra for this coming week, LWL, will be:

:coach: ''LET'S BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!'' :coach:

09-11-2005, 02:03 PM
I agree with Ilene's mantra for the week. I had a goofball food night and woke up late this morning with a full agenda. I almost convinced myself that I didn't have time to get a workout in, but instead, I moved my butt, got in a GREAT leg workout and did 30 on the elliptical. I'll be back at the gym later today to work on some cheer and dance routines so that will be additional cardio for me.

Ilene, the swimming sounds GREAT! Hope its the picker up you've been looking for.


09-11-2005, 04:32 PM
Our backyard looks like the moon.

09-11-2005, 04:54 PM
Our backyard looks like the moon. :lol:
If it's any consolation, my spare bedroom looks worse than the moon (complete with being able to see dirt (i.e. the ground under the house) in some spots