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08-01-2005, 11:13 AM
Welcome to a new week and month! Let's keep up our great momentum for this month!

08-01-2005, 11:34 AM
Good morning! Hope everybody had a great weekend!

Thanks for the good karma vibes, Uncovering! I can certainly use it...maybe it'll get the scale moving again for me since it's been stuck the past few days! Congrats on your 4 lb loss!! That's awesome! Sorry to hear about the tailbone pain...I know how frustrating it is when things like that get in the way.

Thanks for the nice words Sandisuze. I may be successful at my weight loss, but the problem is that I'm successful over and over and over but I have yet to be able to maintain it for any lenght of time. I know this time will be different, though. I am tired of the yo-yo and I know how unhealthy it is. I hope you are feeling better about your daughter situation this morning. Parenting really can be a thankless job. I know it's hard, but being on her own for a while may really be just what she needs. Your husband is right, you can't let her stay and continue doing things that cause you so much stress.

I have been using the 10 lb. increment mini-goal for myself also. When I first started I couldn't even think about how much I wanted to lose overall because it would just get me down. What I usually use as a reward is something that makes me feel really good like finding all the clothes in my closet that are too loose and putting them away, or digging the next smaller size out of storage and seeing how close they are to fitting. I also like going shopping just to try clothes on. Even if I don't buy anything it gives me a mood boost.

Congrats on going to all those parties and not gaining anything, StillTrying! Be proud of yourself for getting right back on track. I'm glad to know there are others here with pets! I don't know what I'd do without my furry friends.

Mommapossum it sounds like you had a stressful week! I hope this is a better one for you. Congrats on still being able to lose weight even with everything else going on in your life.

I didn't jog at all over the weekend so that's the first thing I did this morning. For some reason that mile seemed exceptionally long today and I was just moving slow. I did manage to finish it and then took a 3 mile walk. I was hoping to try to jog a little farther than that but it just seemed harder than usual for some reason so I didn't. It's supposed to get pretty hot here but maybe if it cools off in the evening I can get another walk in then. I've been doing fine with food but yesterday I had too much salt and not enough fluids and I can tell my fingers are swelled up this morning, so today I need to really make water a priority.

Have a great Monday, everyone!

08-01-2005, 11:46 AM
Here we go another new week! Although the kids are driving me nuts this morning-literally, life is good. Last night I just got a hankerin' for snacking but instead I went in and wiped down all the dining room chairs-it really worked! I am really excited to get on the scale this week. It was funny-was feeling so wonderful about the loss so far and then when I went to get into the shower saw myself in the mirror(my bathroom has 2 huge ones) and all of a sudden all the good feelings went away. I have decided for at least awhile that I am covering those mirrors and just looking at myself from the neck up. I feel better and the numbers on the scale are going down so that is what I want to focus on.

08-01-2005, 12:53 PM
Hi everyone! :wave:
Wow This have been a week of stress for so may of us :dizzy:

Being a parent sometimes bites.. Oldest daughter is moving her stuff out.. not real happy with it all But I have babied her so much, she went thru a lot and I did the I'll do everything for you bit... But she has some job leads today and has found out you can't always depend on others to get you places either. ( she doesn't drive) at least she has an intelligent Boyfriend unlike the parent's nightmare of last year and he will kick her into gear. So I will take her for interviews as she needs a job.
Water today Good, food good.. Food was bad last night.. well sorta bad. Hubby grilled ribs.. yummy boneless ribs.. I prolly ate more than my 4 oz. I was allowed but not too much more.. I did bypasss potato salad & garlic bread for a sweet potato and had a salad and green beans.
I have not had caffeine or white bread or white pasta for 8 days now... and the only bread I have had has been 2 slices whole wheat toast. (with the excetpion of the mac and cheese incident)the cravings are going away and the headaches are too. (YAY! ME! ) I told hubby it's like when I stopped smoking. I can never touch certain foods or I will lose control.
I will post later since break time is over ..

08-01-2005, 06:23 PM
Where is everyone today?

08-01-2005, 06:26 PM
I was just wondering the same thing-lol. Had to go to neurologist this morning for my son and then there were errends to run. Man I must have burned a million calories pushing 150 in a cart and that was before any groceries lol. Looking forward to weigh in here and had a perfect week with eating and I am getting more water in finally too.

08-01-2005, 06:49 PM
Melissa- Good job on your workout! See, even your son is helping to make sure you get your exercise!

Sandi - sorry about the difficulties with your daughter. Maybe it's a case of her not knowing what she has until it's gone. I hope she comes around soon. Good for you for maintaining such eating determination through all of this stress!

I did pretty well with eating so far today. My DH is grilling chicken right now. We are having chicken ceasar salads for dinner. Yum - one of my favorite meals! I bought fresh pineapple yesterday - a first for me. It was a PITA to cut up, but it was delicious! I had some for breakast with a container of yogurt.

Tomorrow night I am meeting some friends for dinner at the most fattening of restaurants -- the Cheesecake Factory. They have a vast menu so I'll try to order sensibly. Give me strength! Wed. I have a fitting for a bridesmaid dress -- fun, fun, fun.

08-01-2005, 07:22 PM
I think there are a few messages on last weeks thread.
I went to for the first time. i loved it. I just can't figure out what is a goal for calories each day. Today will be about 1500 by the time supper is over. Any ideas?
I've never counted calories before, just points on WW. I am a WW failure. I would start the day with 6 cookies, count the points and then have next to nothing to eat for the rest of the day, be miserable, say I'll start again tomorrow and eat the rest of the day. Once I have sugar, I'm finished. It just leads to more.
So I'm going to have smart calories, but I don't know how many.

08-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Hi Everyone! How is everybody's monday going so far? I hate Mondays!! lol
I was supposed to meet my trainer today but had to reschedule. Work was long.. lol.
I was able to get on the treadmill for 30 minutes today so that was a good thing.

This is my first week with Summer Starters. Can't wait to get to know you guys!

I hope everyone is doing great!! :D

08-01-2005, 07:42 PM
I spent the day with my sister's little ones. Didn't get any more walks or housework done but I sure had a lot of fun and now I'm worn out.

I just read that Atkins filed bankruptcy. I'm not on Atkins (love my carbs too much). I was really kind of surprised to read that, though.

08-01-2005, 08:18 PM
Hi all!
I just want to say congrats to all of you on your losses! I am looking at everyone's weight tickers and it is just inspiring to me! Keep up the great work! :cp:
My feet are still a little sore from the new orthodics, so I didn;t walk today, but did swim in the pool instead. The scale had another .5 loss on it this AM - but I still don;t trust it - I plan to get a new one this week.
I have discovered that i do my best when I buy the Lean Cuisine, Healthy Chioce and Weight Watchers pre portioned lunches. I work at a school and I can stick to the diet in the summer because I bring lunch, but when school starts back up in Sept - I have decided that I am going to still bring the frozen meals and eat a salad from the salad bar every day - I cannot step foot in the back kitchen! - or it's going to be grilled cheese, fries, pizza, spaghetti, etc, etc...... :ink:
I must start praying for strength now! :idea:
Keep up the great work everyone!

08-01-2005, 08:39 PM
Stilltrying-I have discovered that i do my best when I buy the Lean Cuisine, Healthy Chioce and Weight Watchers pre portioned lunches. I work at a school and I can stick to the diet in the summer because I bring lunch, but when school starts back up in Sept - I have decided that I am going to still bring the frozen meals and eat a salad from the salad bar every day -

This is awesome planning ahead. Sometimes situations happen suddenly and there isn't much control over it, but usually there is a bit of warning, and if we just plan ahead of time what we are going to do and do it, we can bypass alot of things that have caused failure in the past.

ntn4utide-30 min of excersize is much better than 0. Other than busy with dr. appointment and errends-another excellent day. I am excited to get on the scale as I am close to another mini goal which means I get to treat myself. It usually consists of watching a movie while the girls sleep instead of house chores that I can only do while they are sleeping but hey, take em where I can get them. Also wishing the mailman would hurry up cause the WW cookbook I got off ebay should be here today.

KayElle-chasing kids IS a workout lol. I do it everyday up and down back and forth, lift lift lift.

Don't be hard on yourself Laura-different things work for different people. How many calories would depend on how much you weigh. I know last time I counted, I did 1200 a day for a 2lb loss a week. I lost more but that was what it was set at. There has to be a site somewhere that says that kind of thing, just not sure where. There was a book a long time ago called free to be thin and she counted calories and lost a bunch of weight and I know she had all those things in there-maybe check your local library to see if they have that book and then if it is something you want to use, check on ebay or to see if anyone is selling it. I have picked up books for .75 there.

08-01-2005, 09:53 PM
It was a busy day here, but I managed to stay on track pretty well. I did get my water in and plenty of exercise from all the running around I did, but I did wimp out and got KFC for dinner on my way home rather than was just too hot and too late to fix anything. Tomorrow's another day though and I should have time to fix a healthier meal.

My goals for this week...

~ At least 30 minutes of exercise 3 times this week
~ Drink 2 qts. of water a day
~ Keep calorie intake between 1200 and 1500 a day

08-01-2005, 09:59 PM
:mad: Ok I blew it tonight...I knew it was coming.. and I could sit here and make tons of excuses, like today was rotten and the whole situation with my oldest daughter and trying to get ready for school, still hurting over the loss of my grandma - it's not even been a month since she passed away, I didn't get Lunch as I did the "I'll do for everyone except myself" thingy today, BUT that's still no reason ( reasons) to blow it.
Hubby was so late from work and I didn't get home till really late, didn't have time to stop at the store- bad storms earlier so Hubby stopped at the evil local italian take out place and brought home "rolls". now in this place a roll is pizza dough with motzarella(SP?)and whatever you can put in it,flipped over baked & served with sauce on the side. ok, I did have 1/2 of a veggie roll but with the cheese and the pizza dough I pretty much killed the calorie count for the day :(
But these things happen and I SHALL just ride that bike and go back
"on the wagon " tomorrow. I didn't really even enjoy the thing.. too salty and now my tummy feels UGH and too full and heavy.I used to inhale one or two a week -but now I think hubby can indulge and I'll have a frozen dinner from now on.
I will eat better tomorrow cause I feel just blah right now- maybe it was a good thing cause it killed any craving I had for the "Wrong Foods". That's one way of being positive..
falling off the wrong food wagon does NOT mean I have failed,,I just need to brush off and jump back on again.
I am so happy everyone is having success and hitting goals! I am off to go ride my bike for as long as I can and hop back on the wagon as tomorrow is another day !

08-01-2005, 10:16 PM
Hi LauraB - Check out these links for your question about calories and weight loss.

Sandisuze - everyone has a bad meal once in a while - great attitude - just get up and brush yourself off! :cb:
I know what you mean about the belly ache after - I don;t know when I will have the nerve to touch another restaurant fried/greasy meal again! Oh the running to the bathroom problem isn't worth it to me most times! :lol:

08-01-2005, 11:40 PM
Stilltrying-Thank you for the links. I clicked on and I think 1200-1400 seems to be a good goal. It's been a while since I counted calories, but these sites sure make it easier.
Sandisuze-It's ok to fall off. It's so good that you could get right back onto your plan.

Too bad about Atkins million dollar business
I felt bad when he died last year. All the money and success in the world and he slipped on the ice, banged his head and died. Shows how we have to appreciate the the good things we have cause it'a all so transient.
I never liked his diet tho. You eat like a pig and get bad breath from the ketones and when it's over you don't know how to eat like a regular person.
I am thinking about buying a scale tomorrow and weighing in once a week, but the number is going to be highest ever for me and I am scared that it will seem impossible.

08-01-2005, 11:55 PM
Laura don't let it scare you-I did the same thing when I got on the scale and saw that I was 250lbs. That was the heaviest I had ever been and that is including the end of both of my pregnancies. What I have done is just mini goals in 10lb increments and just don't look at the big picture for that very reason. If I say I have to lose 138 which is how much total I need to lose, it just seems like too big of a number and not something I can ever attain. 10lbs though I can do. When I hit that first mini goal, I jumped for joy and now am getting close to my second mini goal. I also do something nice for myself whenever I hit one(non-food of course) and I enjoy it all the more because I feel I have "earned" it. You can do it and the whole group is here to go with you every pound of the way.

08-02-2005, 12:00 AM
I am back from the mountains and really feeling miserable...refreshed, relaxed, had a GREAT time with my family, but feel SO dehydrated, drained, and sick to the stomach for some reason. I know I didn't drink enough water, hardly any at all in fact, and way too much soda, which I am not used to anymore, so I HAVE to pump in the water to start feeling better. I'm afraid we picked up a bug or something because my little one is all congested and having trouble sleeping...started our last night there, and seems to have me today :( We spent a lot of our time in the kiddy swimming pool, so that might be where we got it...yes, I got into the pool with the kids lol my son kept falling out of every floating device we had, so I just stripped down and got in with him. Everyone else around me was fat or old as well, mostly, so I didn't mind lol

I am also very bloated from my monthly and feeling puffy and icky. I feel SICK...I'm going to bed :cry: I will be back in the morning, hopefully feeling better. I'm not goign to try to catch up on the messages for the past 4 days...hope everyone understands.

08-02-2005, 10:00 AM
Melissa-Thanks for your good help.
I am getting ready to do the scale. I know it will help to keep track, but I am really scared of facing the dreaded number. The 10 pound method is a good idea and I will try to just weigh in once a week.
Today is one week since I joined this site and it's been such a great support.

08-02-2005, 10:01 AM
I guess we have hit our first lull ... and I know many are out on vacation and such this week...but where are the rest of us???

I feel so much better today, thanks to lots of water and a good night sleep. I'm not stepping on the scale until tomorrow though, I feel the bloating going away the more I drink :D

I am WAY behind my exercise schedule and want to catch up some miles. I'm planning to do 4 miles this morning, 2 in the afternoon, and 4 this evening while watching Big Brother. We'll see how much of the first two the kids actually allow me to get in. But water is my main priority today. I'm also sticking to 1500 calories a day and so haven't eaten anything yet. Everytime I go in the kitchen I don't see anything good enough to waste my calories on...does anyone else have this problem when counting calories? I guess I'll eventually get hungry enough to "waste" the calories? lol I have to go eat now, or I'll get TOO hungry and eat the entire kitchen.

Maybe others will be around here later :p Hope everyone has a great day.

08-02-2005, 10:05 AM
Hey Laura! The 10 lb. goals are a great idea, it's what I"m doing as well. You can see mine below, I set my first at 8 lbs. just to get back to 250 which I swore would be my highest ever, I was so petrified when I saw that number...then suddenly went even higher and that was IT for me. So, my first little goal is to get back to 250, then I will take it in 10 lb. increments. I am tracking the larger goal, but focusing on the mini goals more.

Have you thought of tracking your measurements? That sometimes can be more gratifying than the scale...especially in the long run if you hit a plateau in the weight number.


08-02-2005, 10:37 AM
good morning everyone! :cb:

well I feel UGH! no more bad foods it's not worth the day after hangover feeling. Back on the water. I probably got dehydrated yesterday driving around in 98 degree temps (heat index 105)made 8 stops and the heat just sucks it out of you..

Welcome back purplefirefly! I am glad your vacation was nice.

Laura B - nothing is impossible! I also find that 10 pounds looks easier than the big picture. hey I even babied my first goal down to 6 pounds. every day I don't eat bad , drink my water,exercise is a goal accomplished- just by joining this support group means you have taken steps to achieve your goals :D

Has anyone seen that show calorie commando on the food network? The chef takes foods/ meals that are normally "bad" for you and cuts the calories & fat down. I am making one of his dinners tonight and we'll see how well it goes over with the family. I found the site has some really good low cal/ lofat recipes. I don't want my family to get bored with chicken every night ;) . 3FC's has good recipes too.
Have a great day ya'll and keep drinking that :dancer: water!

08-02-2005, 11:48 AM
StillTrying - Hope your feet are feeling better today. I work at a school, too, but the kitchen at your school must be a lot better than ours. I just listen to what the kids have to say about it and it's easy to stay away! I usually have a WW or Lean Cuisine meal when I'm working. During the summer I usually have oatmeal or Fiber One and/or some kind of fruits and veggies.

Melissa - You're right...I feel like I got a great workout chasing my sister's kids yesterday. I even went to bed an hour and a half earlier than usual just because I was worn out from them. I had so much fun with them, though. It almost made me wish I had had another of my own. Almost. I don't think I could do it every day anymore! My teen and almost-teen keep me busy as it is.

LauraB - I have the same problem with sugar. What works for me is eating fruits that I really like to get my "sweet" fix. Pineapple, watermelon, and strawberries are my favorites. They make me feel more satisfied where cake and cookies just make me want more cake an cookies.

Sandisuze - Good for you wanting to get right back on track after a slip-up. One bad meal just a minor set back and it happens to everyone. Attitude is everything and you are doing the right thing by recognizing what happened and putting it behind you. Successful weight loss happens because of changes that take place ABOVE the neck first.

Purplefirefly - Welcome back from the mountains! Glad you are feeling better this morning. Good luck on the exercise goal today!

I know what you mean about not wanting to waste precious calories on something that doesn't look that good at the moment. This happened to me especially when I first started. I had to be really strict with myself about it because I had really bad sugar cravings and the only things I really wanted were NOT good for me. What helped me was planning ahead for eating the "right" things even if they weren't what I really wanted. Since I already had it planned in advance, I wouldn't really think about it that much when the time came that I'd rather have something else. It took a while, but now I crave the healthy things, and foods full of fat and sugar don't bother me because I know how they make me feel after I eat them. You are right to not let yourself get too hungry...that's never a good thing. One of the biggest things for me was learning to recognize when I was hungry and when I just wanted to eat for the heck of it. When I'm hungry, I eat something (something that's good for me) no matter what time of the day it is. That's one thing that's different about my weight loss this time. In the past I'd think I'd need to starve myself and be hungry all the time, never eat between meals and only eat little tiny bits at mealtime. This time, I never let myself stay hungry very long. Even if it's just a bowl of salad greens or baby carrots...I always have SOMETHING when I'm hungry.

I am thinking I will have to force myself to do an aerobics tape today. I really don't enjoy it but I didn't get my jog and walk in this morning because it was thundering, and now it's getting really hot already. looks like aerobics it is. I am feeling fat and sluggish today because of TOM so I know it's really important that I get moving. I did a lot better yesterday with water but my fingers are still a little swollen today, so I'm trying to drink even more today.

Will check back in later...hope everyone has a great day!

08-02-2005, 12:11 PM
Thanks for that link SandiSuze...I am always looking for recipes! I like to take fatty ones and make them healthy...have to still be tasty to pass the kids. Of course, looking good is better than taste, if it looks gross in any way they won't touch it! I'm going to check out foodnetwork and try to watch the show.

kayelle--you can do the aerobics, just don't think too much about it. Do it the very first chance you can, get it out of the way and pat yourself on the back. I find that if I put something off it just stays in my mind and sometimes I end up not doing it because it gets late, I'm tired...all those excuses. So, try to get it done ASAP and then forget about it!

08-02-2005, 12:19 PM
StillTrying- I have inserts too, and my dr. suggested wearing for 4 hours the first day, and an hour more each day till you can wear them all day. Now I can't live without them even if it means wearing shoes that are not too beautiful. It's so nice not to have pain.
Purplefirefly- Be careful waiting too long to eat. When I do that I wind up eating everything in site.
KayElle- I had a mango this morning with breakfast. According to it's 135 calories. Well worth it. Much better than cake or cookies or bread.

Last month I bought a bike. (a real one, the kind that goes on the road) I've only used it once so far. It was amazing that you really don't forget how, even after many years. I am still trying to figure out 21 gears. My son gave me a lesson and I understand it on principle. Now it's really time to get it out and do it. So tomorrow is weigh in day and bike day. This support really makes a difference. thanks

08-02-2005, 01:00 PM
Well good morning everyone! I know of at least 2 people who are out of town this week but they will be back next week. Words cannot express how happy I am to have found both this site and all of you. I used to feel so alone in everything and now I feel like I have partners in this journey. I just wanted to thank all of you for being there for me and all of you who offer your hearts and sage advice.

08-02-2005, 01:05 PM
Laura - My husband and I live right near a bike trail which is beautiful. Unfortunately, we never ride there anymore since having kids. When they're a little older, we can take family rides. Right now my 3 yo is too little to keep up with us, yet too big to ride in one of those trailers or on the back of one of our bikes. I could never figure out gears either. I saw an infomercial for a bike that automatically switches gears. Maybe when we embark on riding again, I'll get one of those. Unless of course, you want to give me a tutorial once you fiure yours out. :D

Kay - I was right there with you wih not wanting to exercise today. I found myself making one lame excuse after another until I finally just got up and started. Now that I am done, I feel much better. Tomorrow will probably be my day off from exercise since I have to take my son to physical therapy in the morning and I have a dress fitting appt in the evening.

Purple - glad you're feeling better. I always feel a little depressed after a vacation is over. I guess it is the "back to reality" aspect of life.

Baby crying ... more later.

08-02-2005, 01:23 PM
OK, back. That boy loves to eat!

Melissa - I am so glad we all joined together too. I guess it makes me feel more accountable. Will we be using the same email template tomorrow as we did last week?

Have a great day!

08-02-2005, 01:23 PM
Melissa--you're never alone...not with the internet around, at least! I notice we are about the same weight, so hang around and we'll be losing together :)

08-02-2005, 01:57 PM
Hey ladies, it sounds like everyone is off to an amazing week this week! Congrats to all of you on your hard work and dedication... we'll all get there! :)

I've missed quite a few posts so I'm not going to try and play "catch-up"... just know that I'm really proud of all of you for your continued enthusiasm! :) And a really big thank you for the support you give each and every day! :)

As for me, I had an.... "interesting" weekend. I really battle with myself on how to get to my GW and having had an ED in the past, I'm doing all that I can to stay focussed that this is a process. I didn't become overweight overnight, so it's going to take more than that time to lose the lbs. I want to be healthy this time around. What good is it to be at your GW if you aren't healthy? So, I'm determined to do this the RIGHT way. Eat right. Exercise. I just get so ahead of myself from time to time. So like many of you, I'm going to set mini-goals at 10lb increments. It really is easier to see your successes. The big picture gets too frustrating.

I'm down another 1.5 this week so things are moving in the right direction at least! :)


08-02-2005, 02:04 PM
I think we will use the same template as last week unless there is something anyone would like to add or remove. I was kind of "winging" it last week since it was the first one and of course I missed 3 people too and then just sent to them alone-argh newbies lol. I am always open to suggestions as I want to do one that is overall and can fit everyone. Glad to have some 'longtimers' too since I will be here awhile. Everyone keep up the awesome work! Remember we are works in progress-took most of us years to get where we are and now we are relearning and making amazing life changes!

08-02-2005, 02:29 PM
Mel, I had an ED as well, which I gave up when I got pregnant with my first baby. I struggle not to go back to that every single day, but I have to keep my head straight and remind myself that being healthy is the goal really, not just being skinny. I look at my children and know that I would never want them to watch me with an ED. I don't want them to learn that kind of thing, and I don't want them to watch me go through it. They are my motivation and my strength to do this the right way. At first I was fighting hard and they were the ONLY reason I didn't go back to that I have the exercise down and found some things I enjoy doing, it's not so much of a struggle. Once I saw that I don't need the ED to lose weight, that I CAN do it without that, then it got so much easier. I don't think about the bad things on a daily basis anymore, it's just when I"m in a store and my cart slows at certain sections...I have to remind myself I don't need it, I don't need it, I don't need it.

How you deal with it and when you struggle will depend on what kind of ED you had I guess, but though knowing you're not alone here might help you. It sure is hard, just like recovering alcoholics or any other addiction. It's been four years since I lived with the ED, so it is a lot easier now. I am just so thankful my daughter came along because she was a surprise, a huge shock, and I gave it up for her to be healthy. Without her coming along, who knows where I would be today with the ED.


08-02-2005, 02:48 PM
Theresa, thank you for your words of encouragement and for your honesty. It does help to know that I'm not alone in this. More than anything, I want my daughter to grow up accepting her body for what it is, that's something I have never been able to do... but am striving for each day. :)


08-02-2005, 04:06 PM
I did it! Thanks for the exercise encouragement this morning...I really needed it. This group was such a good find for me. Normally if I don't do some kind of exercise right away when I wake up, my day is pretty much screwed up from there. Instead, today I did a short 20 min. aerobic workout and afterwards I felt so much better that I got on the stationary bike for 40 min. I am so pleased to have gotten that out of the way.

08-02-2005, 04:24 PM
Just checking in!

AAAKKKKK Birthdays - they'll eventually kill ya (lol)! Anyway, my birthday is the 3rd and the cakes have already started arriving at the door. So THAT was my weekend, and then yesterday became TOM, so it was 2 small bags of peanut M&M's.....

But, okay, I DID take my first mile hike in the woods on Sunday - first after being off the wagon for so long. I am afraid to get on the scale for tomorrow's weigh in because of TOM, but I will just have to face up to it along with everyone else. My family is tryiong to help me organize fun walks in places that are nearby so it's not just lapping aorund the track.

I have to tell you that my Core Effects workout ball and tapes arrived and I am too scared to try them. Isn't that DUMB????? I am afraid that I won;t be able to do it and I haven't even tried yet!!!! Yikes! What a nutjob!


08-02-2005, 05:17 PM
Hello! I'm hoping it's not too late too join this thread--it seems like I'm always finding new things on these forums to get excited about!

This week, I want to get in 4 days of cardio and do at least 3 pilates workouts. I also want to avoid all the goodies that people keep bringing in to work--the chocolate cake is almost gone, thank goodness and i didn't have any!

A little about me: I am 31 and very happily married with a 7 year old daughter. Not too long ago, I came across one of those "things to do before you die" lists, so i made one for myself. I realized that many of the things on my list depend on me being in good enough shape to do them, so here I am!

08-02-2005, 06:14 PM
Welcome melra...I'm sure no one will mind you joining, the more the merrier!

Radiodoll--GET ON THE BALL!!! You will never know if you can do it or not until you try, and I bet you will surprise yourself in the end. There is probably an introduction video of some sort, find it and start there. I'm sure it will ease your mind.


08-02-2005, 06:46 PM
Happy Birthday tommorow, radiodoll! Purplefirefly is right about the ball...if you don't try it you'll never know. So what if you can't do it at first?? Keep at it and you'll be able to do it in no time!

Hi and welcome, melra!

08-02-2005, 10:18 PM
Happy birthday radiodoll! I will be getting ready to send out the email here shortly so if you haven't been added, please PM your email to me. Don't want to miss anyone who wants to be on the list. Even if you don't weigh in, please check in with us by hitting reply to all and you can state on there that it isn't time yet for your weigh in. Has anyone else found they are more productive since they started eating right? Even with the cooking I am doing now, I am finding that so much more is getting done in the day and another interesting thing is that I am finding that I am not sleeping as much. Even the other night when I was up really late, I was awake by 7a and didn't feel oogy like I should have. Ok enough babbling from me. Need to get the girls in the tub-they are grubby!

08-02-2005, 11:08 PM
Happy birthday radiodoll! Get on the damn ball, my friend! I am soooooooooo interested to see if you enjoy core effects, I have been wanting to buy it for ages. Everyone I know says it is really fun, so I bet you'll enjoy it (and if you don't I'll buy it from you ;).)

KayElle - I'm so proud of you for going out and exercising. I think it was great that you started with just 20 minutes and then found yourself doing more!

Welcome Melra.

I'm okay today. Still feeling moody and headachey. But I'm eating well. I forgot to enough water today, so I'm going to try to get it all in now.

melissa, thanks for sending out the weds. email. I'm looking forward to it.

I actually was wondering. Those of you who are mothers or taking care of others and also had weight issues before the children. How is this struggle different for you as a mom? How may it be harder or easier or just different? I just find myself thinking that as I read your posts and I thought it'd be an interesting question (now that I'm writing it, I feel all you moms are going to roll your eyes and say, isn't it obvious how it's different?!) But, I guess I wondering if there are any non-obvious ways.

Okay, off to drink a gallon of water.

08-02-2005, 11:25 PM
One of the things I had to change was what the kids snack on-I love them too much and it doesn't matter what it is if I am feeling desperate enough. I don't even buy crackers anymore. They snack on Kix or Cheerios now or fresh fruit. The only one who has balked is my son who is 9 but as of tonight he had some dry cereal along with the girls-lol. I do have one advantage being single-there is no man who won't eat it cause it is "diet food". (all men aren't like that-just talking about my ex) I went through that alot when I was married. He griped about everything I cooked but I really think he was trying to make me stay fat and give up. And it worked too-got so tired of it and the fact he was always bringing in junk food or my favorites-just got to be too much-but that problem is gone now lol. I also cut out Micky D's although they still have to tell me everytime we drive by one-I think they think I forgot where it is.

08-02-2005, 11:43 PM
Reasons I wanted to lose weight before motherhood:
1. To fit into smaller jeans.
2. To attract men.
3. To look better than my friends, or just keep up with some of them.
4. To boost my own confidence and feel better about myself.
NOTICE: It was all about ME back then.

Reasons I want to lose weight now that I have children:
1. To model healthy lifestyle to them so hopefully they will not go through what I have.
2. So they will not have the "fat mom" and feel embarrassed of me.
3. Children live what they learn and I want them to learn the right things, not the wrong.
4. So I will live a long life and be here to see them marry, have children, graduate from college, and do whatever else they grow up to achieve.
5. So I can run through the yard with my grandchildren and enjoy them just as much as I am my children now.
6. So I can keep up with them as they get into sports, dance, or whatever else they might get interested in as they start school...and I start running them everywhere they need to go!
NOTICE: It is all about THEM now.

Motherhood makes you grow up real quick. You have to be the one in charge, the responsible one who keeps everyone safe and happy. They are looking up to me and I want them to see a happy, healthy, vibrant woman who is strong and in control of her life. That's what I want my daughter to be when she gets bigger, so it's what I have to model for her now.

I still want to fit smaller jeans and to look better, but my main focus has shifted from myself to my children and the future of my family. This is urgent and absolutely necessary now, it's no longer just a wish to be thin. I don't want to just be thin anymore, I want to be healthy and happy with myself.


08-02-2005, 11:52 PM
Uncovering--thank you for posting that question about motherhood. It is just what I needed to remind myself of tonight. I am have found another problem of mine that I will have to work to avoid in the future--not wanting to go to the grocery store and letting the food wind down to near nothing!!!! I can't do this anymore. Tonight, we were all starving and there was like NOTHING to eat in here, so we hit Taco Bell because it's right around the corner. I feel MISERABLE and icky and stuffed and FAT.

It would have taken just a few extra minutes to drive to the store instead and buy something healthy for supper, but I took the easy route because the kids were fussing and hubby was due home and I was so hungry I had a migraine and needed to get something in my tummy. Now I totally regret it.

But, I always crave Taco Bell during my TOM, and that is part of it. I also had the bad mood and was just a ragging grouch today...yes, I meant ragging not raging lol

So, I feel miserable but you have reminded me of why I am making the healthier choices and why I have to get up tomorrow and get right back on track. I will not let this set me back...I won't!!!

The good thing is my son doesn't like Taco Bell and my daughter decided she didn't want it tonight, so they ended up eating sandwhiches...funny how I found something else for them but couldn't do that when I wanted Taco Bell :mad: I am really ticked at myself.


08-03-2005, 01:50 AM
Today was good. I upped my cals since they were a little too low and I feel like I've been eating all day when I really haven't been. Water is right on target (3L) and I got in a 6mi walk tonight! Will WI again tomorrow on the off-chance that I've lost another 1/2lb. :^:

Theresa... Don't worry one bit about the Taco Bell incident. We all have slip-ups, the important thing is to get right back OP! :) And it sounds like you're doing just that! Good work!

Melissa... Thanks for all the work you put into the weekly email! It's a great motivator! :) Good work getting the kids to eat healthy... that isn't always easy! My daughter pretty well lives off of salad, raw celery and cucumber, peanut butter sandwiches and chicken soup. She's pretty picky but at least I can get vegetables into her... so long as they aren't cooked. Fruit, well, that's not always as easy.

Uncovering... That's a great question you asked! I think for me, it's more of a focus to eat right now that I have a daughter to worry about as well. I grew up eating fairly healthy (always had to finish our veggies!) but it was once I was on my own that things started to slip. But then again, fast food wasn't as eagerly pushed on the public 20-25yrs ago. It was more of a treat. Nowadays though, it's an every day occurance for some ppl. And often, of course, there just isn't time to get a hot, healthy meal on the table. I'm working hard to banish fast food from our lives permanently. :) So... did you get all your water in?

melra... Welcome! Looking forward to getting to know you along the way! :) Great job getting all that exercise in! :)

Radiodoll... I hope you have a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :) I agree with everyone else, just get on that darn ball! Give it a-go! It may be tough at first, but most things are. It wouldn't be exercise, unfortunately, if it was easy! ;) Let us know how it goes, will you?

KayElle... WOW! That's definitely a good deal of exercise for one day! You must be very proud of yourself! :) Keep up the amazing work and you'll be there before you know it!

Everyone else... a great big :wave:

I hope you all have a great night... well, whatever is left of it! I look forward to seeing all your weekly results tomorrow! Take care of yourselves! Type you later....


08-03-2005, 02:09 AM
Thought for the day:

To dream anything that you want to dream, that is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything that you want to do, that is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself, to test your limits, that is the courage to succeed."
- Bernard Edmonds

08-03-2005, 08:47 AM
Thanks Melissa, for sending out the email check-in. I just did my WI and am down another 2 lbs. I suspect it might even be more but I had a big dinner out last night, but I'll take the 2 lb. loss.

I don't have time to write much this AM as I have to get ready to bring the baby to PT. I'll check in and write more later. Hope you all have a great day!

08-03-2005, 10:20 AM
Good morning
I finally did it.
I faced the scale.
It wasn't so terrible.
The number was what I expected, but I was prepared for more.
I never could have faced it without this group.

08-03-2005, 11:34 AM
Hey everyone! :dancer:
I so want to weigh myself... (tantrum for today)

Theresa, I understand about the taco bell thing. That's what happened when we went and got the italian food the other night- no food to have ready so we ate bad. I have solved that by making sure I have some of those boneless skinless chicken breast in my freezer at all times. I cut them into strips for the kids, marinate them for me & hubby- I also picked up 2-3 Healthy choice meals for me so they can indulge- my one problem is I don't want to stock up my freezer too full as it is hurricane season- lost too much last year

Was in walmart yesterday and found a goodie bag of those 100 calorie snacks- like 6 oreo crisps, 6 chips ahoy crisps, fruit snacks and graham cracker crisps- all for 5.00 - I keep those on hand for one main reason: I will only eat one pack when the cravings are BAD- the Hubby, kids & I learn to limit portions, and there are hard as heck to open and I prolly burn 2-3 calories while getting a pack open :lol:

I am so glad everyone is working hard toward goals and a healthy lifestyle!
I just need to get back to exercising and stop making excuses :ebike:

well break time is over back to work for me! Have a great day all!

Sandi :comp:

08-03-2005, 11:44 AM
Good morning everyone!
LauraB~ good job facing the scale! I hear you on the "prepared for more" mentality. Are you planning for a short term goal as well?

Radiodoll~ HaPPy BiRThdaY! :woo:

Theresa~ I thought your response to Uncovering's post was super--right on the nose, at least for me. I had an unplanned pregnancy right at the peak of my "wild" phase, when my weight was something I whined about and wanted to lose so I could fit the image (all about me!), but I wasn't disciplined at all. Once I became pregnant, I went on a total health kick--no soda, no caffeine, no sugar, no alcohol or smoking (of course). I still gained weight, but that "crash course" in health stuck with me, so I've eaten better ever since. Now though, I want to prove to my daughter that if I want to do something or be something, I can--I just have to work for it. I still have a hard time staying on track, esp with exercise, but I'm so much better now that I feel like I'm doing this for her as much as for me.

Today I'm irritated with myself because I really went over my calories yesterday--all at night, which is my weakest time of day, dietwise. I was surprised b/c I thought I was doing so well--I even allowed myself a treat! I'm going to plan out my meals better today (sigh). I did get in one pilates yesterday, but no cardio, so I guess I know what my plans are tonight!

08-03-2005, 11:44 AM
See Laura-fears go away when we face them-now you know exactly where you are and can set up a game plan!
Congrats Jeanne! That is awesome!
I am off to check emails
Keep up the awesome work!

08-03-2005, 12:52 PM
Happy Wednesday, everybody!

Melissa, I definitely have noticed a change in my productivity level also since I've been eating better and exercising. I just feel so much better than I did before. I used to spend so much more time sleeping than I do now. I get up at 5:30 on weekdays even though I don't have to in the summertime. Last summer I was waking up around 10 most days.

I hope you are feeling better today, uncovering. Headaches are no fun. I have 2 kids but they are 15 and 12 so I don't have the extra challenges of caring for little ones, but it is a challenge to find healthy things that they are willing to eat. I still get the "there isn't anything to eat around here" and rolling eyes when I name off all the healthy foods in the house that they could have. It's getting better, though.

Theresa, don't beat yourself up over Taco Bell. One meal isn't a big deal as long as you get right back at it. Today is a new day. TOM can really make the cravings hard to resist but next time you will remember how miserable you felt being stuffed and it'll be a little easier.

Mel - sounds like you had a great day and are right on track! Congrats on the really long walk! Thanks for the thought for the day...that was a good one!

Congrats on the 2 lb. loss, Jeanne!! That's great!

LauraB - It is so hard to step on that scale for the first time...good for you getting it over with. Now you can watch those numbers tick down!

Sandi your weigh in day will be here before you know it. I am really impressed that you can stay off the scale in between. Good for you for not being a slave to that scale! That's something I really need to work on for myself.

Melra good attitude about planning your meals and getting right back at it after going your calorie limit last night. Night is always the hardest time for me, too. I know a lot of people set a time that they don't eat after every night. I haven't tried that but I know it works for a lot of people. I always try to save a few calories for a snack before bed. It gives me something to look forward to and I don't go to bed thinking about what I wish I could eat. It's easy for me to choose something healthy because I know I'll wake up feeling yucky if I eat something that's not good for me.

I've had a good day so far. My husband and I got up and jogged a mile and took walked back before he left for work this morning. It was windy and we were jogging straight into the wind and that made it a lot harder for me. I was really glad to see the end of that mile. I plan on walking some more yet today or riding the stationary bike if it's too hot outside. I am drinking a lot more throughout the day and I'm feeling really good about that.

I am trying to prepare myself for our first fair of the season this coming weekend. My daughter shows llamas for some friends so we will be spending a lot of time at fairs for the next month or so. I love fairs but I always have a hard time with fair food. I'm hoping it'll be easier this year because I feel like I am in better control of my food intake than I ever have been, and most bad foods don't bother me anymore. I'm NOT going to let that all go out the window and screw things up just because of a few fairs. I really feel like I can get through it this time.

Hope everybody is having a great day!!

08-03-2005, 01:12 PM
Hello All
Thanks for the responses to my finally weighing in.
Re before being a mother and after and weight-
I think it all has to do with how you feel about yourself, before and after becoming a mother. I think the healthy part kicks in because you want to be there for your kids and set an example etc. But I think how you feel about yourself over rides everything and also whether you use food to handle stress. If you think "baby fat" time is bad, try teenage time, when they don't come home on time and you stand in the kitchen, terrorfied, and calming yourself with food.
I do think tho, that trying to be good to yourself, which means not hurting yourself with junky food or too much food, or calming yourself with food is the best way at any time in life. I wish I could do it all the time.

08-03-2005, 03:04 PM
I can't believe that it's Wednesday already! :dizzy: Life is crazy here in my neck of the woods right now. My husbands 90 year old aunt (she's a young 90 and lives alone...we do quite a bit for her as she has no children) is having heart surgery tomorrow for a blocked artery. My dad (85) is also having heart problems and has an appointment with the cardio today, so I've been running myself ragged doing for them both. On top of that I have a doctor appointment for myself tomorrow morning to have a spot on my nose looked at...most likely it will have to be removed. I really would like to lock myself in the bedroom with a carton of butter pecan ice cream, a jar of hot fudge and a spoon, but I'm doing pretty well sticking to my eating plan. Exercise is what is suffering...I'm having a hard time finding the time and energy for it. Thanks for listening to me whine...hopefully next week will be better!

Y'all keep up the good work...I'll try and catch up with the posts later when I have more time. I just wanted to check in and let you know that I haven't disappeared forever!

08-03-2005, 03:18 PM
Kay, pack some healthy snacks that you like and take them to the fair with you! Also, make sure you get lots of water while you are there so you won't start eating out of thirst..that really can happen! Also, I read somewhere that you should plan what you will do instead of eat when that urge strikes. For example, you should decide before you go that if you start thinking of getting fair food you will go for a walk in the opposite direction or so something else a game? Maybe you could add up how much $ it would cost you to buy the foods you want to eat...then spend that money elsewhere the next day. Give yourself a little shopping spree to show what better things you cn do with that money than stuff yourself full of grease. That's actually not a bad idea lol I may have to actually do it myself sometime.

Laura--yay on facing the scale :cp: Now you can look back one day and see how far you came! If you didn't weigh, you would never have that amazing feeling later down the line that you knocked off all that weight. It's a good thing...move away from that number now!

Sandi thanks for talking about the snack packs, I have seen them but have never bought them. I will have to check them out now.

08-03-2005, 04:10 PM
I'm really impressed by EVERYONE's efforts here... and congrats on all the awesome WI's! :) Keep up the awesome work! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

jeane... 2lb loss is FABULOUS! Definitely something to be proud of! *Thumbs up*

LauraB... Congrats on facing the scale. I know it's not always easy. But you did it! And now you can look back at the number and know just how far you've come! Good job! :)

sandisuze... Great tip about keeping froz. chicken breasts on hand all the time! I'll have to remember that one! I'll also have to check out the snack pack... for those nasty cravings. :) How's everything else going? Good, I sure do hope!

melra... Don't worry too much about last night's snacking. It happens to us all from time to time. The important thing is that you try again today. :) I'm a night-time snacker as well, but like other posters here, I have set a time in which I'm not allowed to eat after. I originally set it at 9pm (since I usually don't go to bed until midnight) but I'm currently working on an 8pm limit. Give it a-go! :) Let us know how it goes, ok?

Melissa... Congrats on the tremendous loss! That's AMAZING! Keep it up girl!

KayElle... Good job getting a mi of jogging in! I wish I could run that much... heck, I wish I could run to the end of the block and back! :lol: I second Theresa's suggestion about adding up all the $$$ you would have spent on fair-food and then spending it on something spectacular for yourself the following day... a new outfit... a manicure... a pedicure... a new book. :)

SuzyMc... I'm really very sorry to hear that you're currently dealing with two family members with heart problems! *Big hugs* Please let us know how your husband's aunt's surgery goes! Very best wishes sent your way! :) Don't worry too much about exercise, just do what you can. Perhaps try a nice walk in the evening, might help to take your mind off of things! :)

As for me, I *DID* in fact WI again this morning and I *AM* down that extra 1/2lb I was hoping for. I thought I might be since my cals were a little lower than they should have been. Looks like a little extra food is just what I needed to kick my metabolism into gear! :) I usually feel guilty after I eat, regardless of what I eat, so I'm really working on just enjoying my food. Yesterday was the first day that I have allowed myself to do that w/out having that awful nagging feeling afterward. I made healthy choices, why should I feel guilty for enjoying an apple... or a nectarine? I shouldn't. Exactly. :)

Today looks good... water and food should be right on target. I'm getting used to planning my daily menu as soon as I get up. I log onto Fitday and plan out my cals so I know ahead of time where I sit. DH and I'll be walking at least 4mi again tonight... with the hopes of actually making it 6.

I hope no one minds me posting a "thought for the day". I think it's just an added motivator... something that may help to keep our eyes on the prize. You know?

Nothing else to report from this end, so I best sign off. Hope you all have a wonderful afternoon. Take care of yourselves and stay HAPPY and HEALTHY!


08-03-2005, 05:20 PM
Suzy so sorry to hear about your family members health problems. Good job sticking with your eating plan through all the stress. I agree w/Mel that a nice walk if you can fit it in would be a great way to get some exercise and maybe de-stress a little at the same time. Sending good wishes to all of you and please keep us posted.

Purple-I will definitely take some snacks with me to the fair and do my best to avoid the food vendors. I love your idea of keeping track of the $ I'd spend on food and then spending it on something else that I want! We will be doing fairs until roughly mid-September. Maybe I could keep a running tally and wait until the end of the season to see how much I have to spend. I can do this!! I'm NOT going to blow it this time.

Mel - When I first started I couldn't even jog a whole block. It amazes me that I can jog a mile now. I couldn't even do that in high school. Congrats on the loss! Nope, you definitely shouldn't feel guilty when you have something healthy like fruit for a snack. It's OK to eat, and you DON'T have to feel hungry in order to lose weight. It took me forever to realize that as long as I make the right choices I can still feel satisfied AND lose weight.

08-03-2005, 06:20 PM
Hey everyone! I enjoyed reading the emails this morning. It is great that we are supporting each other. All of y'all are doing wonderful!! :) I am at work right now so decided to sneak on the board for a sec.
I will check out all the posts I missed later tonight.
Have a great night!!! :)

08-03-2005, 09:00 PM
LauraB- you faced your fears! Good for you. In a few months from now, you'll be bragging in the Success Stories about how many pounds you've lost.

Sandi - Great thought on the snacks. I think maybe I should do that -- that way, if I want to indulge, it is a bit more controlled.

Radiodoll - hope you had a great birthday!

Melra - good for you for getting back on the wagon!

Kay - WTG on the exercise. GL at the fair. I bet you'll do great!

Suzy - sorry about the sick relatives. I hope the spot turns out to be nothing to worry about.

Mel - good job on your loss!

Today has been an awful day for me in terms of eating. I could make a lot of excuses why, but it comes down to that I need more self control. Tomorrow is another day.

08-03-2005, 09:29 PM
What a marvy idea for the fair! My Dad works for the county so every year we get free pass and rides and I had already been going through my WW points book to see how I was going to pull it off. Even if I just got a stinking corndog(not favorite) it would cost me big time point wise. I will just bring my own stuff and lots of water and it will save me money too lol. Course it will just go to buying diapers for the girls. I do have quite a few clothes thanks to freecycle and even some to wear at smaller me. I think when I hit my goal, I am giving myself a day at the spa! Pamper me all day long.

We all have those days Jeanne-just dust off and get back in the saddle.

Everyone keep up the good work we have begun!

08-03-2005, 09:53 PM
]FONT=Georgia]Hello All
I need to complain about a really horrible day. First there is my dog, a 10 year old shepherd, who woke me up 4 times last night to go out. He never does that unless he really has to, so he must have had an upset stomach. I just go downstairs and I open the door and wait, But 4 wakeups is alot and then I'm tired in the morning. Then my newly wed son let me know that all is not well in the 3 week old marriage and maybe it's a mistake. He is the child who has given me the most grief and I worry the most about. I have to restrain myself from getting too involved in this rocky relationship, cause I can't fix it, but I worry so about whether he is being a pain to her and/or whether she is going to hurt him. The wedding photos aren't even back yet and the thankyous aren't done.
So I did nothing today, but pace and worry, but I didn't use food. I went over my 1200 calories by 200 and it was all fruit. So that's the one good thing.
I think if I didn't have this support, I would have run and bought a lot of ice cream. Also , I love my new tracker and I want to see it move.

08-03-2005, 10:13 PM
Hey everyone.. :sunny:
it seems everyone is doing so wonderful!

Melissa.. I had to laugh when I saw freecycle- my hubby says no more freecycle ;) I have gotten exercise videos, a scale, a foreman grill and other goodies from freecycle.. of course I have given up lots too ! He says the same about Ebay too - but I sell more than I buy

I am sorry to hear about health problems and needed surgery- Suzy, I also hope that the spot is nothing.
Happy Birthday Radiodoll! :balloons:

Hmm country fairs are bad news for me- hubby always wants to go and EAT!
I will plan also before going- I always carry a glucerna bar and a snack with me in case of emergency or craving attacks..

I have to say congrats to everyone for still staying motivated! :bravo:

LauraB- it was fruit- it wasn't cookies or ice cream- (YAY!)that is so good you didn't let your emotions control your eating. You chose wisely and that is a good thing! I have been going thru so much with my oldest and I understand the worry and stress our older kids can cause. You have my sympathies! I hope all will be ok and I am glad this support group is here for you! Being tired doesn't help either, I know. I told my hubby I had no idea being a parent of such a diverse group of kids would be like (21, 12 and 7)and if I knew then what I am going thru now I prolly would have RUN ;)

I had to run to the store tonight for a loaf of bread and ended up buying fruit that was on sale- got grapes and cantalopes and apples.. YUMMY! But I put on a pair of shorts that had been getting tight 12 or so days ago and tonight hubby says you need a belt..They were LOOSE :D Oh I am soo excited. I had to share that because nothing has been loose unless I am wearing hubby's t- shirts :p
Well I am off to make a big fruit salad and get ready to :ebike:
Must ride bike.. no more excuses

08-03-2005, 10:51 PM
My Goodness - miss one night here and you get very out of the loop!!
I am having a hard time remembering who wrote what!
Suzy - I am thinking of you and yours with all of the health issues. Hoping you will all be fine.
Happy Birthday Radiodoll! :balloons:
I am going to a country fair this Sunday - I have decided that I will allow myself some fried dough and that is it! - it is my absolute fave - my mother used to make it for us all of the time - haven't had it in 4yrs! Thanks to you I will stash healthy stuff in my purse and bring water so I don't have anything else!

I have changed my ticker to reflect my real weight, based on my new/accurate scale!
I have also decide that I will also do 10 lb. mini goals, because the 10% one was too much to tackle right now! - I want to see a ticker MOVING!

My feet are feeling better every day and the weather is supposed to be cooler & drier this weekend, so I am planning a short walk on Saturday and I will walking all over the fair on Sunday - so my fingers are crossed!

Take Care all and thanks for all of the support!!

08-03-2005, 10:58 PM
Also , I love my new tracker and I want to see it move.

I know! Me too! I was thrilled to get to move it down 5 lbs. last week, and am so anxious to weigh in next week and get to move it again! These things are great motivation.

08-03-2005, 11:08 PM
sandisuze--Wow, congrats! I bet you felt so proud wearing your loose pants to the store! I can't wait until something is loose on me! Seems impossible at this point, but you are proof it can happen in just a short period of time.

I did pretty good today, though not as well as I wanted. The great thing is I got 10 miles in! I did 3 on the gazelle first thing this morning, WATP 4 miles while the kids napped, and 3 more on the gazelle while watching TV this evening. But then I broke my no eating after 8 PM rule :nono: I had to put away the leftovers from supper and had a few bites before I put it away. I didn't even want it, but couldn't keep it out of my mouth. I feel bad now, but I know those couple bites won't undo all the least I hope not. I also got lots of water in, so I feel good about the day overall i guess.

Tomorrow is grocery shopping day and I have my list ready. I am determined not to buy anything not on that matter how loud the kids scream!


08-03-2005, 11:26 PM
Melissa - I bet the snacks you bring will be even better than the ones at the fair. Great planning ahead!

Laura - sorry to hear about your son. It's too bad they didn't realize this a couple of months ago. But if they do decide to call it quits, they can probably get it easily annulled and they can send the gifts back in lieu of writing thank yous. I hope your doggie is feeling better and lets you sleep tonight.

08-04-2005, 01:46 AM
sandisuze~ great job "loosening up". I love that feeling! (can't wait to get it again!)

Theresa~ omg you are a ROCK STAR! 10 miles! That is really wonderful. And I don't think that the few bites you had of leftovers should be considered shameful...i mean, after all, you had a few bites and then put it back! Sometimes i just want to eat a whole other helping and to put it back after tasting it is, i think, i great thing!

laurab~ sorry your son is still causing you angst. sounds like i should let you compare notes with my mother about HER youngest son. :devil: good job though on not letting your sleep deprivation and stress get you off track!

08-04-2005, 04:07 AM
Hi All!!
Well it only took me a week(or so), but I finally got a few minutes to come to the board. It's so great to see everyone posting and giving so much advice and support, I will have to get in here more often!
My WI for the week wasn't what I wanted-only lost .5, but I know it will be better Monday! I'm drinking so much water, I just float around!
I really don't have much time on here tonight, it's past my bedtime, but I have a question for those on WW, or who have been on it--I got a list of points from a lady and I wonder about some of them. Do you just go by the points on the list or use the points calculator? I have found that some things are different. The list says bagels are 6 points, but when I use the calc. it comes out to 4? What do I go by? Of course, I would rather take the 4 over the 6!!! :lol:
Also, has anyone heard of the 7 day fat burning diet-cabbage soup? My hubby REALLY wants to try it on his days off(starts Friday)and wants me to do it with him. I just don't think I can eat cabbage soup for breakfast :(
Well, I will check in again tomorrow night. Hope you all have a great, healthy day!!


08-04-2005, 06:54 AM
wow! it's amazing how much can happen in a few days!
well, sorry i havent' posted in a few days but i have been moving. i finally made it back to the gym last night, and i had lost 3 pounds, yay! moving must be really great exercise.
i am so glad there are new members in our group. it's great thay everyone is doing so well. this is such a great support to me. it has really been a stressful last few days :dizzy: , but i haven't messed up too much on my plan.
well, i am beat. didn't, make it to the gym today. hopefully tomorrow. keep up the great work ladies.

08-04-2005, 08:49 AM
Diets like the cabbage soup thing are only temporary...and torture! You will lose weight if you stay on it, but soon as you go off you will gain it back. My SIL lost over a hundred pounds and has kept it off for like five years now. She uses diets like that now, whenever she feels her jeans getting a bit tight she goes on a quick silly diet until they loosen up, then she eats healthy and exercises to keep it off. The trick is, you can't do that for seven days or whatever then go back to normal just comes back with a little extra. So be careful!

08-04-2005, 11:13 AM
cadwell125 ~ cheers to you on your 3lb loss! :hat:

Thanks everyone for your encouragement; I did much better on diet yesterday! Though it didn't go exactly as planned, I still had enough stuff around the house to make some really good substitutions. Exercise not so good, I got only a little in. It has been really hard to get in workouts this week and I haven't been watching tv or anything, I swear!

08-04-2005, 11:17 AM
Purple I agree with you- I really feel the only "trick" to weight loss is eating healthy and exercising. that way you stay at a good weight and will be healthy. I don't think quick fixes work either. ( my 2 cents for the day :D )

When it cold out I make the WW vegetable soup cause it is soo good but I couldn't live on it

My goals for the next 10 days is to exercise at leat 6 days, drink my goal of 40 oz. of water a day and continue to eat better on a daily basis!

Hubby told me last night he is really impressed by my commitment even if I have slipped once or twice I am not giving up like before. I can have an exercise machine of my choice If I keep it up (within Limits of course- darn I wanted a bow flex :strong: ;) ) I have the exercise bike But I really don't care for it-

Now if I can just get hubby to drop a few he'd be better off too- he prolly only needs to lose 25-30 pounds But he eats whatever and whenever.

Keep going everyone !! We can do this ! :dance:
Break time over- back to work for me..
:comp: Sandi

08-04-2005, 11:39 AM
Hello again!

Don't worry about having a bad eating day yesterday, Jeanne. Just forget about it and move on. I'm sure today will be much better.

Is freecycle some kind of a trade in recycling place? I've never heard of it. Must be one of those things that hasn't caught on here yet. We are always way behind everybody else.

Sorry about your son's troubles, Laura. I hope things work out for the best for him. I can't imagine how much worry it must cause you. Good job staying away from the ice cream and having fruit instead!

Congrats on the loose shorts, sandisuze! That is such a big motivator when clothes start getting baggy. Have fun picking out a new exercise machine!

Kristen glad to hear your feet are feeling better. Good luck with all the walking this weekend!

Theresa great job with all the exercise! 10 miles is great...and I'm sure it more than conpensated for a few bites of leftovers.

Kathy ANY loss is something to be proud of. Great job!

Congrats on the 3 pound loss, cadwell...that's awesome! Moving is a lot of work. Hope you are getting settled in!

Good job sticking with your eating plan, melra. A little exercise is better than no exercise. Just keep working on fitting it in and it'll get easier.

I had a good day yesterday. Stuck to my eating plan and ended up getting some more exercise in the afternoon with a walk and some time on the stationary bike. This morning it's raining so didn't get out for my jog but I did go get on the bike for a half an hour and did my ab workout. It's supposed to be cooler today so I'm hoping it clears off for a while so I can get a good jog or walk in later. I don't know if I will ever get used to drinking so much water. It's getting better but I have a hard time drinking that much in a day, and I always drink too much in the evenings and have to get up too many times overnight. I need to start drinking more earlier in the day.

Hope everybody is having a great and healthy day!

08-04-2005, 12:03 PM
Freecycle is an online giveaway type site done by people in a community- say you have something like a chair/clothes /toys/ whatever (they do have rules about certain items) and you don't want it anymore, then you post it on freecycle, someone needs it, they let you know they want it and then you make arrangements for them to pick it up. It's a good way to get rid of and get stuff. Try to see if there's a community around you. you'd be so surprised at what you can give away and what you can find. I've had a lot of fun with it.

08-04-2005, 12:51 PM
Wow everyone has been busy-I was down for the count last night-darn arthritis was acting up but better today. For the WW points, I go by the calculator myself if I have any doubt about what I am being told for points. The difference in the book could be the weight of the bagel. I highly recommend freecycle. I have not only saved myself trips to either the dump or goodwill, but I have helped those who need it personally and I have also gotten some great stuff. They are nation wide I believe. Freecycle and ebay are my friends lol. Congrats on the move and losing at the same time. It is awesome excersize but usually a time of fast food too so that is a great job! I also agree with the cabbage thing. If it is just couple pounds and extremely short term but I have done those and as soon as I eat "real" again, not only do I gain it back but more too. This is a life style change and those take time-something I am not always so thrilled about.
Well I have to go to the store-found out I got 1 diaper per child-not sure how that happened.

08-04-2005, 01:31 PM
It's just amazing that now that I know what I weigh everything is easier. I can look in the mirror and not pretend that the 65 pounds aren't there. I don't have to feel bad about the clothes in the closet that are too tight, just wear the ones are ok and the others will be fine soon. It really is a relief-thanks to all of you. I really realized that if everyone else here could face the scale, so can I.
I love It's another way to face reality. You can't say it doesn't count, or forget that you ate it. It has really kept me on target.
Re how many calories one should eat a day-I read a post that suggested your goal weight times 10. What do you all think?

08-04-2005, 01:42 PM
Hey guys! You guys seem to be staying motivated and congrats with all the weight loss! I, on the other hand, feel I need to move my big butt over to the depression and weight loss forum. I'm just having a really hard time staying motivated, I'm not feeling well at all and... well, I'm just being poopy.I'm still sticking to my diet, so I guess that's a plus. Arrrgh, and I'm so tired of posting blah messages. Alright, I know this to shall pass. At least I'm trying to do something about my weight and maybe my body is just taking some time to get used to these new habits. Don't worry about responding to this post, I just wanted to check in.

08-04-2005, 02:41 PM
Uncovering-It's so good that you are sticking to your program. Do you think that maybe you are feeling yucky cause youare not eating when you feel bad. I know I've said it before,but i eat when I'm tired, bored angry lonely sad scared anxious etc. Eating covers those feelings. But when you can't use food anymore, the feelings are still there.

Right now I really want the bag of macadamia nuts my son left in the kitchen, but if you can stick to the program, so can I. I think that's what this support is about. Reading your post helped me stay resolved.
Also-just a thought, are you eating enough protein in the morning. I think that's really important to help you feel good.

08-04-2005, 03:11 PM
Freecycle looks really interesting. I did find one community that's about an hour away from me but seemed pretty deserted. It'll probably catch on eventually.

I do like ebay a lot. One year I sold enough for my family to take a two week vacation to the west coast. I got rid of so much stuff. I haven't bought or sold there for a while now, though. I may have to go check it out again.

I think there are a few different ways to figure out your proper calorie intake for the day, but everyone is different. You have to find that magic number that won't leave you feeling too hungry but will still let you lose enough to stay motivated. I was really strict about counting at first but I didn't set an exact number, instead I set a range of approx. 1000-1500. Whether I am at the top or bottom of the range for the day depends on how I'm feeling. Most days I try to stay near the middle...but there are days where 1000 calories are enough and there are days when I need all 1500. I still count my calories every day but it's a lot easier after doing it for a while because I have so many calorie counts memorized, it only takes a minute to know how many I've had. I don't count the really low cal veggies as part of that...those are my filler foods and I have as much as I want of them. Another thing I count is fiber grams. I find that the more fiber I have in a day, the less hungry I am. A big bowl of Fiber One or oatmeal keeps me full for hours. You just have to find what works for you and go with it.

Uncovering - sounds like you are really feeling down. I imagine every one is struggling with motivation at one time or another, if we didn't none of us would have ever come here in the first place. I know how rotten it can make you feel. The important thing is that you are taking the steps necessary to make a lifestyle change. It is so hard to do but it is worth it and you are worth it. Hang in there and it will get easier and you will start to feel better. When I first started in January I felt depressed, angry, i-can't-believe-i-let-this-happen-again, miserable. I bet almost everyone here has been in that hole and the only way out is to keep digging. You can do it! You have been sticking to your diet and that shows that you are committed to doing this. Please don't worry about your posts not being perky all the time. We are all going through the same issues with our weight and we all have good times and bad.

08-04-2005, 03:39 PM
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein

:wave: Good morning/afternoon to everyone! Sounds like we're all off to a great start today! :)

Jeane... Don't worry one bit about yesterday's eating. That's in the past. Today is a brand new day for being your best! :)

LauraB... I'm very sorry to hear about your son's marital issues. These things can be mighty difficult, that's for sure. Best wishes sent your way... please let us know how things go, ok? As for going over your 1200cals by eating fruit, that's absolutely nothing to worry about. You should definitely be proud of yourself for making healthy selections! :) I'm glad to hear that seeing numbers on the scale or on has helped put things into persepctive for you. :) As for how many cals you should be eating, there are calorie intake calculators that will help to assess the number of calories you should be eating. Try this one: . From there, I *THINK* you're supposed to decrease that number by 500 to lose weight.

Sandisuze... Good job fitting into those previously too tight shorts! And they were loose?! ^5! Great work, girl! Those are fabulous goals you've set for yourself for the next 10 days... I'm sure you'll achieve all of them!

Kristin... Ok, I have to ask... what's fried dough? Is it like a doughnut? I'm confused. Regardless, it does sound yummy! Good idea in taking some healthy snacks and water along with you to the fair! :) Glad to hear your feet are feeling better! That makes all the difference in your desire to walk, I'm sure! :)

Theresa... WOW! 10mi! That's phenom! You are most certainly on your way! Good job! So... how'd shopping go? Were you triumphant in your goal to stick to the list??? ;)

Kathy... 1/2lb loss is great! You are moving in the right direction, remember that! :) Not sure about this cabbage soup diet... I think it sounds a lot like the grapefruit diet (or any other of those "fad" diets). Let us know what you decide though... and how it goes. :)

Cadwell... Congrats on the 3lb loss... and for staying OP even through a stressful time. Moving, most certainly, is great exercise... all that walking, lifting, carrying! Phew! I'm exhausted just thinking about it. :lol:

melra... Glad to hear that you were able to stay OP yesterday. I know it's hard. I have a hard time getting exercise in, too. So right now I'm just focussing on walking. It's becoming routine again. From there I'm going to move into my kickboxing tapes. The key is finding something that you enjoy so it doesn't feel much like "exercise" per se. The more you enjoy it, the more willing you'll be to do it on a regular basis. :)

KayElle... Good job getting all that exercise in and for staying OP food-wise! That's phenom! As for the water, just drink what you can and then try upping it by even 1/2C each week. :) Keep up the great work! :)

Melissa... This freecycle thing sounds very cool. I had never heard of such a thing. I wonder if they have it in Canada. :^: Weight loss *HAS* to be a lifestyle change... you're right. If not, we'll lose the weight but then gain it back in no time. And as we all know, gaining weight, unfortunately, is far easier to do than losing it. :( I've resigned myself to the fact that this is a process and my unhealthy ways can't be undone overnight. <--- Although I *SO* wish they could be! ;)

Uncovering... I'm sorry you're not feeling well right now. But you definitely deserve a big ol' pat on the back for sticking with this. You have lost 12lbs thus far. You are off to a KILLER start! Last night, I put things into perspective for myself by really thinking about how much weight I've lost. For you, that's 12 1lb tubs of margarine, or 12 1lb blocks of butter. That's A LOT... and YOU have accomplished A LOT! :) Whenever things get frustrating, remember how far you've already come.

As for me... I'm doing ok. I got in 3mi last night instead of my intended 4. Ah well. I *WILL* do 6 tonight. That is a promise. Goal of 3L of water. Food looks good. I really enjoy planning my daily menu as soon as I get up. I know what I'm allowed to eat so there's no guessing, no humming, no haaing, when I feel a grumbly in my tummy. :)

Everything else is well. I'm working hard to slow down my eating, to enjoy my meals, rather than just get them over and done with. :) That's something I've never really done before. :)

Anyways, I should take off. I hope everyone has a HAPPY and HEALTHY day today! Take care, ladies! Very best wishes sent to each and every one of you!


08-04-2005, 03:40 PM
Thanks everyone! Things are already looking up! :)
Auntie's surgery went well. They put the stint in and she was back in her room by 11 am! She will stay overnight and probably come home tomorrow.
My dad's appointment with the cardio also went well. His pacemaker showed only one brief episode and that only lasted 20 minutes. They are going to make a minor adjustment to his medications and leave everything else as is.
My doc removed the spot off of my nose right in the office this morning. He said that it was a type of wart (of all things :dz: ) and not cancerous, but still should be removed. The novocain hurt worse than the actual procedure, but now it's starting to wear off and my nose is a little ouchy. No worries though! :)
Now for the added bonus good news...the doctor's scales were 2 pounds lighter than mine here at home and that was with my clothes on! :D

08-04-2005, 03:54 PM
Whoohoo! That's great news, Suzy! I'm so happy to hear things went well for all of you. How neat that you weigh less at the Dr.'s!! That had to feel great!

3 miles is still a lot, mel, you are doing great. Good luck getting all 6 in tonight!

I'm still waiting for it to clear here so I can get outside. I may just have to get back on the bike for a few min. instead, but I am OK with that today.

Ice Princess
08-04-2005, 06:25 PM
Sorry guys been really stressed and busy with work and the heat havnt had time to get on, Between hubby and kids have two computer need one more just for me LOL
well water intake still isn't very good but drinking at least 3 cups a day, exercise eeewwww have walked a couple times in the last 2 weeks and havn't started my weight's yet either but em down 4 pounds cause I slowed down on my pepsi intake LOL instead of a 2lt a day I'm down to a can or 2.

08-04-2005, 07:54 PM
OKay, I went to that site someone gave and it says I need over 3000 calories a day....I had to do something wrong, right? that is HIGH!!!

The grocery store went great, stuck to my list except for a bunch of fresh fruit that will be gone by Monday lol probably much sooner. But then I got home and realized I forgot to get toilet paper, sat down at the computer and opened a rejection letter for one of my stories (I am a writer, remember) so got the kids back in the car to go after toilet paper, but was really on a rampage because of the rejection letter...and ended up with a pack of little almond joy and some fruit sandie cookies...and ate a few on the way home, the entire time screaming at myself that I don't need it, it won't erase that rejection letter, and I need to just get it ready to go out again, not stuff myself with cookies.

So, now I feel really bad and want to throw the rest of the cookies in the trash. :stress: I thought I would just not eat supper, but I know that will just set me up for a night binge because I'll be starving. So, I'm making a very healthy dinner and everyone else can just deal with it tonight! I'm going to have a big salad actually, the others are having lasagne. I don't need lasagne, i need to sit down tonight and get that story out somewhere else...after I reread and make sure there isn't something wrong with it that i haven't seen before. I've been working on this piece for over five years and the rejections just get me bummed out, although I haven't had that many for this one yet, just starting to send it out really.

I only got 2 miles in so far today, my daughter was throwing up all morning and then the shopping trip takes awhile with two toddlers in tow. I'm hoping to get in at least 4 more miles while watching Big Brother tonight...that will make me feel better. TOM is over...that's a good thing! The swelling is almost down and I've been downing the water all day, so I might just step on the scale tomorrow and see where it sits.

Okay, enough rambling. Off to fix my salad and get the others to the table :cry: I don't think I even deserve a salad, but I have to have something


08-04-2005, 08:06 PM
theresa~ I think throwing the cookies in the trash will make you feel better. the few dollars wasted on throwing them away is nothing compared to the awful temptation of having them in the house. You can take your rage on those cookies by crumbling up the package and tossing them. You can even curse at them while you do it! Stupid cookies! Take that! good luck. ;)

08-04-2005, 09:03 PM
hey Theresa.. I am so sorry you have had a rotten day- I don't know if this will help : But remember some of the greatest writers had 100's of rejection letters before they got published...

In my job I deal with people on a weekly if not daily basis who have really bad things happen to them - some handle it better than others and I started asking why do you have a different attitude? and they told me they count the good things that happen to them first before the bad so maybe this will help:
1. You stuck to your list with 2 toddlers (arrgh I can't take my hubby
and 7 & 12 YO to the store with me..) To me you are so brave to do that!
2. You bought fruit which is good!
3. You only ate a few "baddies" not the whole package and you didn't buy like 100 packs of cookies and eat them all.
4. You got 2 miles in WOW ! That's awesome!
and the big one : the TOM is OVER!
I agree with Melra- kill the cookies.. and we all fall off the wagon .. we can pick up and try again..we're here for you ! I couldn't make it thru my day without the support of my "SuperCyberfriends" just the advice, tips and kindness is so awesome. Tomorrow is another day and just keep going! we will cheer you on!

08-04-2005, 09:41 PM
Theresa-Definately throw the cookies in the trash and forget them. You are so terrific. You didn't turn a rejection into a binge. Isn't it great that we all have a place to turn to when something like this happens?
Did you know that Rollins (sp), the Harry Potter author, was rejected by 23 different publishers and it was only an accident that an agent picked up the manuscript to read off of a big pile cause he was waiting for someone who was late, and he fell in love. She was broke and now she is now richer than the Queen. Rejection doesn't mean the piece is bad, just that that person can't use it.

08-05-2005, 02:56 AM
Hi everyone, today was a good day until chocolate/raspberry brownie after dinner! But it was the only oops! all day, so I'm happy! I got all 3 liters of water in and walked on the treadmill for 30 min. Hubby is now starting his 6 days off, so hopefully I will continue with the good eating and drag him along with me!! We are taking the girls school shopping in Reno Monday, last time we went to Reno for 2 days, I came home with 3 pounds!! I know better this time--lots of salad and share an entree with hubby or the girls.
Thanks everyone for the advice on the cabbage soup. I will show your responses to my hubby. I know there is no quick fix on losing weight, it has taken me a year to lose 35 pounds!
Well, once again, it's bedtime! See you tomorrow!

08-05-2005, 07:56 AM
Hi all -
Mel - Fried dough is bread/pizza dough fried in :eek: oil - till lightly browned and most people sprinkle sugar and cinnamon on it - Some vendors also have spaghetti sauce and parmesean cheese - that is my favorite! (I am mainly Italian) So it is not at all a diet food!

As far as the WW points question - if I had the nutrition information I always used the calculator - the bagel for instance - can be different from brand to brand depending how it is made/how large it is, etc) If I didn't have info. I used what the book had. Have you gone to It is Dottie's Weight Loss Zone and she has lost a tremendous amount of weight with WW and has amassed a list of foods and points for them. She also has receipes with the points calculated. It's great site for WW followers.
I did WW at work about 1yr 1/2 ago and lost 16lbs - and we didn't have enough ppl to continue and I gained it back :(. I am trying to count calories and exercise this time around.
Suzy - glad to hear everyone is doing well healthwise!

I weighed myself last night - down another .5 - I am off from work today - supposed to be in the mid 90's and humid - I plan to clean the house - work up a good sweat and jump in the pool! We are heading to our camp for the weekend - may not be able to check in until Monday nite.
Keep up the great work everyone!!

08-05-2005, 10:38 AM
***BIG HUGS*** You guys are so great. Sadly, you all are more supportive and encouraging than my own husband! He doesn't understand why I would work on a story for over five years without ever sending it out, with no gurantee of ever making a dime off it. To me it's not a money thing, it's just something I have to do or I get cranky lol I actually consider my characters real people...guess I'm insane.

I know that most sucessful writers went through years of rejection and I also know that most that really make it, do so during the later years of their life. It just takes that long to really be great in the craft, as well to beat down doors and get recognized. There are some really great writers out there that have never, and many will never, be known to the general public. But, I still want to eat when I get a rejection, that is how I've trained myself to deal with life and it has to change. At least I know now what I"m doing, that is the first big step in correcting it.

I am feeling much better today. I got another 3 miles in last night, for a total of 5 yesterday. I want to get 10 in again today, but I don't think it will happen. I have a lady from freecycle coming to pick up my daughter's old nursery set and might meet another lady to give her some clothes my son has outgrown. The kids are fussy and wanting to cuddle...I take advantage of that, they are usually too busy for me unless they're hungry lol

How is everyone else doing? I don't wanna hog the board.

08-05-2005, 10:40 AM
have fun at camp Kristin..and do some sloshing in the pool for me, that sounds so nice!

08-05-2005, 12:35 PM
I just wanted everyone to know that this will be my last day to post for awhile. We are taking a holiday starting tommorrow ~ going to Colorado which includes 3-4 days of backpacking just south of Aspen --Lost Man Lake, if anyone's familiar!

My goals on exercise this week were kind of blown. Every night it seemed we had more to do for the trip! I had three (ugh, three! :mad: ) mini-snickers last night from like 10pm-2am while we were still checking out the gear and loading our packs. But, somehow, I was still under my calories--doubt under my fat grams, though :mad: . Someone brought 3 doz donuts in to work today, and there are only 18 of us here! I will not have one, I promise. I have told everyone here of my intentions, so I have a lot of accountability during the day. (now if i could just have the food police on staff from 10p-2a!)

I went ahead and checked out the scale and somehow I'm down another 3 pounds. :?: :D . I checked a calorie counter and looks like I'll be burning about 3-4,000 calories a day while backpacking! Good thing, because beef jerky is on the menu!

Story: I'm trying on my loaded backpack and there's a belt at the waist and another that runs under the armpits just above my breasts--if you can picture this, you know that the tension of these bands kind of pushes everything out and creates a lot of...rolls? :( So I'm standing there feeling like a big fat turtle while my husband is adjusting the straps and everything and then he stands back and takes a look at me and gets this kind of dirty leering look on his face and says "You look hot!" He's so.....(blush) I just love that he doesn't even seem to SEE what I see on my body...He doesn't remember that I was heavier, or that I was thinner, he says I just always look like me... :love:

Anyway, good luck to everyone on your goals next week. Seems like there's always something going on that can throw us off--camp, Reno, doctors, families, career...I hope everyone stays on track! I'll post again Aug 15! :D

08-05-2005, 03:51 PM
Argh! Well to start off, I was in so much pain yesterday I just ordered pizza and wound up eating it of course-now I feel icky! I didn't dare get on the scale even though it wouldn't have counted-just don't want to know. I had to take my son in for his yearly physical and let's just say he is lucky I have allowed him to live. Nothing brightens your day like a dose of public humiliation. He was under the exam table, carrying on like someone was out to kill him so needless to say the Dr. wasn't willing to deal with him. My first impulse was to just go get as much chinese food as possible along with a pint of B&J but I didn't do it. Came home and ate OP. Pain is much less today but kind of afraid to do too much so it doesn't start up again. I am not really sure what I did to start the ball rolling unless my bones are adjusting to carrying less weight on them. There are times being a single parent bites or else I am just getting too old for this stuff-not sure. When I put the girls down, will go through the posts-I just needed to VENT!

08-05-2005, 05:15 PM
Melissa - sorry to hear you've had a rough couple of days. Forget about the was only one meal and you got right back to business so it'll be fine. Glad that your pain isn't as much today. It is unfortunate how kids can cause so much pain and embarrassment when we break our backs to be good parents to them. I don't like going to the doctor, either, though. Someday maybe you'll be able to laugh about it. I'd love to hide under the table and make a scene the next time I go to the doctor....or even the dentist! Good for you resisting the urge for Chinese and ice cream! I am in awe of you for raising those kids on your own. I know how hard it is to raise 2 kids, and I have the luxury of a very helpful and supportive I know you've got your hands full being a single parent. I don't know how you do it but I'm amazed.

melra - Have a great vacation! I was in Colorado a month ago for and had so much fun. Sounds like you will get plenty of exercise backpacking in the mountains. Enjoyed your story! That had to make you feel good...sounds like he is a keeper!

I've been doing ok...last night we were in a rush and my husband brought home Pizza Hut but he got thin crust veggie and I only had a couple pieces and then had some fresh pineapple so I don't feel too bad about it. After that we were working with llamas for the rest of the evening so that should have worked it off anyway.

It was a beautiful morning here so we got up at 5:30 and jogged a mile and walked a mile, then after he went to work I jogged another half mile and walked a mile and a half...and then my daughter and I groomed an unruly llama for two hours (and THAT was a workout). But now he is looking good and all ready for his shows this weekend. My daughter gets really nervous before the fair. She did very well last year so hopefully things will go ok this year for her, too.

I think I'm going to go curl up with a book for an hour or so...I'm worn out after this morning. Hope everybody else is having a happy and healthy day!!

08-05-2005, 05:15 PM
***BIG HUGS*** Melissa! You do so much better than I would have. Every time I have to take the kids to the doctor I end up eating is so stressful when they are young! FOr me, the one not getting looked at always acts up and I have to try and keep them from breaking something or their own necks while listening to the doc talk about the other fun! But you did the right thing...and the scale will pay you back, just wait and see!

I did throw my cookies out everyone...but I ate one before they went into the trash can! Hubby gave me a line about wasting money and I told him that buying them was the waste, not tossing them. I know him, he's thinking this won't las and I'll be buying more to throw away in a week or so...but he will see with time that I am SERIOUS THIS TIME!!!!! I am NOT buying anymore...I'm not! And just knowing he thinks I will, that will make me even stronger in my determination lol



08-05-2005, 05:37 PM
Yes it was soooo hard. I left my other two with my mother since I was taking my special needs child in. He is 9 now. I just still get so thrown off when he acts like this. It is easier for me to take Odessa who is 3 in October or Amanda who will be 2 next month than it is to take him. Good girl throwing those cookies away! You could tell hubby they are thrown away when we eat something we don't need so at least this way, better to feed the garbage can than ourselves. I used to go through that about throwing leftovers away instead of eating them. It is wasting food right? Nope it is a waste to eat more than our bodies require so if it is worth saving, in the fridge for another meal or else if I think it will just sit and grow hair prettier than mine in the fridge, down the garbage disposal it goes. Feeding fish is good. Well I am off to make some WW soup for my lunches over the next couple of days to counteract that crappy pizza that really wasn't as good as I remembered it being. I got a new book today so I will be also curling up with it while the girls sleep. Nothing like a book to let you forget anything that bugs ya. Will be back later on gals and thank you so much for being there for me.

08-05-2005, 05:48 PM
Melra- Have a wonderful trip. It sounds fantastic and what a workout.
Melissa-I took my 4 year old nephew to the emergency room last year when he put a coffee bean up his nose and he kept yelling at the poor doctor, "don't touch me, slime bucket". Luckily either the dr didn't care or cause his English was pretty bad, he didn't react. We had to wrap himi n a blanket and I had to lie on top of him so the dr could get the bean out of his nose. When it was over, everyone clapped, and my nephew announced that he wouldn't ever put a coffee bean up his nose again. I was happy that I was just an aunt.
My kids have managed to embarass me many times, but I think we are more affected than the people around.

Today is a long hungry day. A storm came thru and the power is out. The house is a mess and I look a wreak. I am very tired and battling not eating. It's 4:45 and I'm at 1100 calories. We are meeting friends for dinner, so I'll have to estimate 3-400 calories, maybe a big salad. I really am determined to not blow away the day.

08-05-2005, 08:36 PM
he stands back and takes a look at me and gets this kind of dirty leering look on his face and says "You look hot!" He's so.....(blush)

That is true love! Embrace it and do so enjoy yourself while you are vacationing. You will be missed and we want to hear all about it when you get back. You will more than hit your goals while backpacking and then some probably.

Thank you for your encouragement KayElle! I did beat myself up for the rest of the night, especially since it didn't seem to taste good to me but I kept eating it anyway. I made a vegie taco tonite and it was so much more satifying! Life is looking better later in the day, now that the sting of humiliation is waning. You would think after all this time I would be used to the public barking, growling, and fit throwing but it hasn't gotten any easier. Since he isn't going to be changing I guess I need to change my attitude about it. Keep up all the good work everyone!

08-06-2005, 02:17 AM
:grouphug: melissa. you're doing great. i have trouble saying no to ben and jerry's even when everything is a-ok. although i did today! it helped that wal-mart doesn't carry the light version, which i prefer anyway. but no ice cream is better than light ice cream :) but i was sad watching dh eat the yummy yummy ice cream, while i said lamely, "i don't like pistachio anyway" :nose:

08-06-2005, 07:29 AM
i am so excited! every now and then i try on my old "skinny" clothes to see if any of it fits. i scored today! two pairs of pants are perfect, and two more and a skirt are almost ready! best of all, i got to toss a few "fat" things in the suitcase to replace them :dancer:

08-06-2005, 11:57 AM
Way to go Cadwell! I think fitting into a smaller size is an even bigger thrill than watching the numbers go down on the scale!

melra ~ Have a wonderful time on your trip...sounds like it will be a great vacation!

Melissa ~ You're doing great! Life gets in the way sometimes and your only option is to order out, so don't worry about that pizza and just keep on going!

It's been a tough week here...lots of running back and forth between the hospital and home. I've tried my best to keep on my eating plan, but water and exercise were practically nonexistent. I'm really not looking forward to getting on the scale tomorrow morning. Hopefully next week will be better.

08-06-2005, 12:16 PM
That is awesome cadwell! It is such a good feeling not only to fit into things we couldn't but to put aside those "fat" clothes and remove them forever!! Keep going!

08-06-2005, 01:01 PM
We ate out last night and I was fine! Usually I think that cause I'm in a restaurant, and not cooking myself and paying too much money for it anyway, I might as well eat whatever looks good and certainly all of it.
I had a ceasar salad with shrimp and blue cheese dressing on the side and a tiny piece of bread and 4 shoestring french fries. And it was all ok. I did what was right for me and it actually felt good.
I just invited friends over for dinner, and i will go get a big free range chicken and just picked tomatoes and make carrots and then a pineapple for dessert. These are good friends so I don't have to do appetizers and lots of other stuff. I'm not worried about
the evening either. It's a new me.

08-06-2005, 01:06 PM
Ugh! My motivation seemed to be waning. Yesterday, I didn't exercise and made some very poor food choices. This is a pattern behavior with me. Once I start losing and people notice, for some reason, I tend to lose my focus.

This morning I tried to counteract yesterday's defeatist behavior. I had to bring my car to the shop for an oil change and inspection. The shop is about 2 miles from my house. I decided to take my DD and her stroller with me and walk home rather than have my husband pick me up. I didn't walk as fast I as do on the treadmill, but we did complete the 2 miles (and it was probably a little longer because we zig-zagged through strreets rather than take the main roads) in under 40 minutes. I also figured that pushing my almost 40 lb daughter had to be worth something.

When I came home, I made myself a yogurt smoothie that was absolutely delicious and refreshing.

08-06-2005, 01:08 PM
Laura - that salad sounds yummy! We make chicken ceasar salads a lot here during the summer months. It is a real treat for me since my DH does the grilling.

08-06-2005, 01:11 PM
WTG Cadwell on getting rid of some of the bigger clothes to make room for the thinner ones!

Melissa - I always heard that pizza was a fairly nutritious food. I am sure it doesn't rank up there will a bowl of veggies, but I think you could do a lot worse.

Melra - Have a wonderful trip!

08-06-2005, 01:41 PM
Jeanne I have fought this same demon everytime I have started to lose weight and people begin to notice. I think it is fear but fear of what I am not sure. I am sure it could be a million different things. I know one of them for me is male attention. After my marriage I packed the weight on so that no one would "bother" me and I wouldn't have to deal with it. Wrong and bad especially when the word no works wonders. I am sure it is something I will have to deal with when another 50lbs are gone but I guess it would help if you could identify the thing that scares you about it so you can start to try to work through it. Not sure if I made sense or if it helps but I do understand what you are going through. Here if you need to talk.

08-06-2005, 05:19 PM
Jeanne - It sounds like you are right back on track.
Re losing your focus as soon as people notice- I have always done the same thing. Start eating as soon as someone says somethng nice. I don't know why I do that, but this time I will try to be aware(when it happens in 20 pounds or so). Then maybe I won't lose my way. I don't think I need to know exactly why I do it, just be aware so it won't happen.
A yogurt smoothie sound wonderful.

Cadwell- Maybe you should give away the fat clothes, cause you're never gonna wear them again!

08-06-2005, 07:18 PM
Melissa- I think that I gained weight when I had thoughts of leaving my marriage, and I ate alot to feel better, but I also think as long as I was fat I couldn't leave cause I had it in my head that I could never be alone and no one else would ever look at me fat.
Anyway, the marriage worked out, but I'm still fat.

08-06-2005, 07:29 PM
I started to pack in on toward the end of my marriage. I was so depressed and miserable. I started to lose weight after the divorce but then I got scared and put it back on and then some. I think now that I feel more confident in making the right kind of decisions for myself and so it isn't as much of an issue anymore for me. I am in the age bracket that I don't have the stressors younger women have. Marriage, biological clock, ect. Those can be powerful influences.

08-06-2005, 07:38 PM
This is the first time that I am going to lose it just for me,not my husband or my kids, or a special occasion. That never works for me and I just feel like such a failure afterward. I'm going on 2 weeks now and I have been so calm most of the time, rarely deprived, or hungry or angry over how much I have to lose and however did I get this fat. It's going to take time and I'm not anxious about it.
This week my book club is having a pot luck. There will be great food and I have always been a pig at times like this. I know there will be salads and I'm going to bring a big bottle of vanilla seltzer. Just because all this food is there doesn't mean I have to eat it.

08-06-2005, 07:51 PM
Wonderful outlook Laura and the good motives that last a lifetime. Bookclub sounds like so much fun! I have always wanted to do one. I love reading and books, even some of the novels I had to read for college, which is saying alot. Planning ahead is so very key for me. I have a BBQ next weekend and already planned for it and taking a salad that is OP for me and the fair coming soon for us too and already planning on just bringing my own snacks and lots of water! It feels different for me this time too as it is just for me-not because I am hubby hunting or have some event coming up and I have been amazed at how stress free it has been to stay OP.

08-06-2005, 09:28 PM
A book? What's that? LOL - I actually really enjoy reading, but since having my DD 3 years ago, I can count on my hands how many books I have finished.

Laura and Melissa - good for both of you for deciding to lose for you! I bet that is what will make you successful this time. BTW, I see both of you discussed marital issues. Do you think there is a natural ebb and flow to relationships? My husband and I can go for what seems like years without having any substantial arguements. And then there are those times where the arguements seem to be frequent - generally over nonsense. I guess having kids only compounds things more since we each have less "me" and "us" time.

08-06-2005, 09:49 PM
I do believe there is an ebb and flow. We didn't even have one argument until after our son was born. My ex really resented having to "share" me and my time and he also didn't like having his time so my responsibility grew and I always felt alone in the deal and I also worked full time. Life is full of ups and downs and the trick is to keep time for just the two of you-I know it is hard once the children start to arrive. But even if it is waiting till the kids go down for the night and doing something together and talking, keeps things better. I read while they are napping or right before lights out. I have the advantage of no hubby so I can pick and choose when I do things (but that is the only advantage) I would much rather have that someone to share life with.

08-06-2005, 09:51 PM
Melissa, you seem like such a great lady. A man would be lucky to have you.

08-06-2005, 10:00 PM
awe ya got me blushin' now....:0)

08-07-2005, 12:06 AM
JJeanne- there is an ebb and flow and it becomes more recognizable as time goes on. You start to laugh at the silly fights and know that it really is just a way to blow off steam. And hopefully you learn to discuss the real disagreements or at least understand the other person's point of view. Our biggest disension has to do with my dh feeling I am too affected by my children's ups and downs. I still feel responsible when they screw up, like I failed to show them the way, and I suffer from guilt. He feels they are grown up and need to learn to take care of themselves and bear their own consequences. I know he's right, so sometimes I don't tell him everything and then I am angry cause I feel alone. Nuts, huh?
A good piece of advise I got from a friend was to think about all his good qualities, and then hopefully the bad pales in comparision.
Time really flies, and you realize that you should't waste your time together on nonsense when there is so much good stuff to do.
I feel like an old crone, giving advise to the young, but I do feel that I have learned alot, and we have come thru some difficult times together.

08-07-2005, 11:42 AM
Weigh-in day for me...161. No loss, but no gain either, so I guess it could be worse. Next week WILL be better though! :D

08-07-2005, 01:41 PM
No gain is better than a gain. I am probably going to be right there with you this week since I had my fiasco earlier on. Still a pound higher than last weigh in for me. But it sure showed me it wasn't worth it!

08-07-2005, 04:35 PM
I have been butsy, busy busy but found my way back FINALLY!! We have relatives in from California, they only come in ever 4 years so we have been going through lots of family functions this weekend with them. I have been struggling with eating and I know it's holding my weight back, so I made a decision that I am going back to vegetarian. I was a veggie for 7 years before I had my daughter and went back to eating meat, but everytime I take a bite I feel like getting sick. It just nauseates me to know I am eating a dead animal and I don't want to do it why am I still making myself do it if it makes me feel sick? So, I am taking a gradual process, taking out red meats this month, turkey and chicken next month, eggs and fish the next. I know how to do it healthfully (it's not hard as people think to get what ya need) and felt so at peace and happy once I decided this is what I want to do, and even with all the celebrations and eating out it has been easy...easier than counting calories actually.

Last night was a big dinner with the entire family and I did really well, passed up all the red meat and went with a big salad topped with cottage cheese instead of dressing, and a bunch of veggies and other non-meat dishes that were there. This morning hubby took me to Golden Corral for breakfast and again I had a big salad, some eggs and a tiny pile of hashbrowns.

I am also cutting out sweets and cookies and all that stuff, and it was easy pasing up the salad bar. I feel really good remembering how healthy and happy I was when I didn't eat meat...I just felt better in every way and after just one weekend of no red meat I do feel much better already. Mawmaw actually hugged me yesterday and said "what did you do different? Did you lose some weight?" :D Only 5 lbs down and it's already obvious to some people who know me well.

I read through everyone's posts but I don't have time to keep typing right now...glad to be back in the loop though. Keep going ladies...we will get there!

Tonight is a cookout at MILs, so not eating red meat will leave me with just the sides and I'll have to make due...but there will be salad and I love me a big salad


08-07-2005, 06:49 PM
That is a very healthy lifestyle. I did that for about 6 months or so and I also found I felt wonderful but alas, I do like meat lol. Sounds like a lot of fun for you this weekend and glad you have a great handle on it. Keep going!

08-07-2005, 11:23 PM
Just checking in quick to say hello. Back from the fair and WORN OUT. The only exercise I got was just walking around the fair (and this was a small one)but the good news is I didn't eat anything unhealthy! I really didn't even want any of it. For lunch I had a Subway veggie on wheat and then later I had fresh pineapple and watermelon for a snack in the afternoon. Hopefully I can keep it up for the rest of the fair season. It will be harder at the bigger fairs but I really think I can do it. I'm thinking I'll have my hair cut and highlighted with the fair food $ that I save.

I'm feeling really down tonight because of some issues with my in-laws that are really getting to me. What it boils down to is that MIL is really upset because my husband always puts his wife and kids first, and last month we happened to inconvenience her when we planned our vacation around our schedules instead of hers, so she has been ignoring and avoiding us ever since. It really hits home on a day like today that is so important to my daughter after she spent her whole summer preparing for these fair shows. I guess I wouldn't care if she ignored me but I don't think it's fair how she's treating my kids. I'm not sure how FIL feels but he wouldn't dare cross MIL. Hubby is upset about it but he's really good at not letting things get him down. I wish I could learn to just let go of things like he does. I tend to brood over things and let them really bother me.

Anyway...hopefully I'll be in a better mood tomorrow and I'll try to catch up and type more. Hope everybody is having a great night!

08-08-2005, 12:03 AM
You did an awesome job at the fair! I forgot there is subway now and that will make it easier to plan when we go. 4-5 points keeps me right on target. Your husband is doing things the way he should-his wife and kids first and it is a shame that MIL uses the kids to get back at you and hubby. It can be stressful. I hope it all straightens out soon for all of you. Other than kids making a shambles out of everything, life is good today. Stayed on target, even though it seemed to be a hungry day for me. Odessa drank all my coffee creamer, the neighbor boy was not nice to my son today-slammed his fingers in the door and threw rocks at him too. He took off pretty quick so I think he knows I am on the warpath. Josh can be really hard to deal with-but still no excuse. Amanda is going through a take off her diapers phase so the tinkle queen has been making havoc through the house. I need a vacation lol.

08-08-2005, 12:46 AM
KayElleYou give me couage to go to our county fair in 2 weeks. I won't have any kids with me, so it will be easier to pass up the yummy snacks and stay op. And I will spend the money on something else. Last time I bought 2 rubber ended brooms from a pitch guy and i use them all the time.
MIL is a hard relationship. I am one and I try very hard to stay in my place and not tell my DIL when I think she is doing things wrong. I want my son, whom I adore, to be happy and he won't be if his wife and I don't get along. Luckily I love my DIL, we are very close, but again, I am very careful. We just spent the day with them and it is wonderful to see my son happy. Think of the joy your MIL is missing by not paying attention to her son and his family, because she is being silly.

08-08-2005, 01:36 AM
Kay, it is very sad what your MIL is doing to your family, I deal with quite a bit of that myself so I understand it is so hard. I can't imagine being your husband though, he is right in the middle of it. Just stay focused on what you're doing and know that you are doing the right thing for your family, and you can't help it if she doesn't agree. Maybe she's feeling left out, and you might invite her over or something? You know her better than I do, but she might the type that if you go on vacation she feels left behind. Or maybe I"m just thinking of my own MIL lol

Melissa, I have the tinkle king in my house...maybe they will get married one day and make us tinkle princes/princesses LOL He takes his diaper off and does more than tinkle on the floor sometimes and usually not just in one neat pile :devil: I keep pants on him, but he slips it down the leg hole, little booger.

I did good tonight. Hubby was a sweetie and told MIL behind my back that I am not eating red meat anymore, so she had a turkey burger all set for me. That works for now, but as of Sept. even that will not work for me. I'll be prepared and take my own veggie burgers though, so it will work out. She didn't make salad, which I was really wanting more of. I had the turkey burger with half slice of cheese, mustard, fresh tomato, pickles, and just a bit of slaw to top it off. I also had a few potato chips, but it was that or cookies and pie. Sugar sets me off on a binge, chips don't, so I went with the chips. When I really wanted a cookie I had another little plate of chips and that worked out well. Had I eaten the cookie I would still be eating right now, sugar just triggers that for me.

I came home and di 4 miles on the gazelle and WATP 4 miles and reached my goal of 8 miles. I really wanted to do that because it finished up milestone 3 on my virtual walk and I really wanted to start on 4 tomorrow. That's a short one and if I stay on track will only take me until Tues. to finish, then 5 will take like 2 weeks *sigh* I will be so proud when I get through it.

That's it for tonight...hopefully I can fall asleep now, having an insomniac night and morning will be a struggle.


08-08-2005, 01:59 AM
Hi all! Sounds like everyone is doing good this weekend! I think I've done okay, but I am not weighing in the morning(my usual day)TOM came today-10 days late! I feel very BLOATED and heavy :(
Melissa-I wish I lived closer, I would come over and give you a break! I just saw that you live in Everett, my daughter lives there! We were going to try to come up there on hubby's next days off, but I think we might have finally found a house!! :D So we will be moving instead :D The girls start school here on the 29th, so I don't know if we'll make it up any time soon :( I'm bummed we won't be up, but we have been looking for a house all summer!! We will have to get together when I come up!!
SuzyMc-No gain is GOOD!!
KayElle-I hope things smooth out with your MIL! It's wrong for her to put your kids in the middle and hopefully she will realize that soon!
Theresa-I'm pretty sure I could live without red meat, but I gotta have my chicken! I think I might try just no red meat, and I'm also going to try to cut out white flour/bread and sugar-slowly! I wish I could get the kids off of it all too! I would rather let them have some, than deal with the headaches THEY would cause me!!! We already do a lot more fruit than sugary stuff, so it's not too bad.
Everyones idea's about fair food have been great! Subway is definitely where I'm going before the fair! 6 inch veggie is my fav!!
Hope you all have a great, healthy week!!

08-08-2005, 02:06 AM
Hey girls... how's everyone doing? Sorry I've sorta been MIA the last few days, just busy. I don't have time to reply to all the posts, but I'll do my best...

I know what you're going through, KayElle. My MIL somehow thinks that we should arrange EVERYTHING to suit her and her schedule. She actually had the audacity to ask us, after all the vendors had been booked and the wedding invitations had been sent, to change the ceremony time for a friend of her's. I nearly fell over. I'm sorry I can't offer you advice, but you do have my sympathy! ;) It's often a difficult situation and I really wish you the best for the future! :)

Sorry to hear about the issue your son had with a neighborhood boy, Melissa. That's really very sad that children behave so badly to others. :( How's everything else going?

Theresa, good job getting 8mi in today! That's fantastic! Good luck on Milestone 4! :) Let us know how it goes! :)

Things this way have been hectic. I've upped my exercise to include some kickboxing and strength-training. I really hope both get easier... quick. :^: I didn't get as much walking in as I had hoped... but I am up to 25mi for the month. Looks like I'll make my goal of 100! :)

Food and water have been spot on... and I'm hoping to see results on Tuesday (my official WI)! Guess we'll see.

Anyways ladies, I should take off for tonight. Hope you're all keeping well! Take care and I'll type you all later...!


08-08-2005, 06:17 AM
hey everyone, it's great to see that everyone is sticking with it. for me, the scale was up a pound today, but that was right after my anniversary dinner, including some fried ice cream :devil: ha ha, isn't ice cream bad enough, do they have to batter and fry it? but the meal was sushi which i split with dh, so not bad overall.
kayelle, what is it with mils recently? :dizzy: mine has been totally loco and causing so much chaos in the family that i swore up and down to dh i would have nothing to do with her in the future. i hope things work out with yours, but i think in my case, it's a lost cause.

08-08-2005, 07:50 AM
Okay 6:20 AM and I am awake *yawn* really, I am, I swear *yawn*

This is day one of hardcore mommy-gotta-be-on-time schedule and I am hating it already. My little girl starts preK in two weeks and she will have to be there at 8AM. No biggie to most people, but we are night owls and need practice. I got up at 6, checked some email, and did WATP 1 mile...that is a nice wake up, I feel better after doing it, even though my legs are like dragging tree stumps in the morning.

Cadwell, don't worry about the fried ice cream, just get on with it and you will do fine. Give yourself an extra dash of exercise if you feel like it, but otherwise just push it behind you.

Mel, kickboxing! Please tell me how this goes and if it does get any easier. I bought several kickboxing tapes years ago and couldn't do them, they just left me exhausted on the floor and I never even made it through the beginner tapes. The Kathy Smith and Boxout weren't so bad, it was the Tae Bo that I just couldn't do...especially the kicks! Let me know how it goes and maybe you'll inspire me to drag out the old tapes and try again.

Kathy, chicken will be hardest for me as well. Hamburger is not hard at all, it makes me feel puky, and I have never liked steak to begin with. Just getting off the red meat, I have felt so much better every day. I'm wondering if I couldn't keep chicken and still have the same healthy glow. We'll see how good i feel at the end of this month, then see how hard it is to quit chicken again next month and I'll decide. But really, I did it for 7 years and never missed any of it so hopefully I can get there again.


08-08-2005, 10:39 AM
Hello All
Today starts a 3rd week for me and I've actually stayed op almost every minute. That is such a change for me cause usually I try to bend the program and basically fool myself. is a great tool for someone like me who opens the fridge 100 times a day. I've got to enter everything honestly so it keeps me in line and op. I don't remember who did the post about Fitday, but whoever it was, thanks so much.

08-08-2005, 11:19 AM
Well good morning everyone! I will have to check out that site. Haven't been there yet. I am going to try and get a walk in today. I am still up a pound from my fiasco and would at least like to be down 1 lb for the week. Feel for you theresa-I remember when I had to have josh ready for the bus at 815a and it was soooo hard. It wasn't because he wasn't up, but at that time, I had to do all his dressing and things still and that was in between all his running around. I was ready for a nap by the time I got him off to school. Not sure what his schedule will be like for this year-he is going to a new school and thankfully it is closer to home. I know one of the things that is keeping me OP is all of you. It is so nice to see others going through what I go through and I feel accountable to you all. I will definately try and get to visit that site today. Can't have too many tools in the arsenal.

08-08-2005, 12:06 PM
Thanks everyone for the MIL advice. I am feeling some better today. I don't know why I let it bother me so much. My daughter didn't seem to be bothered by it and it certainly wasn't a surprise that they didn't show up. In this case it's not a matter of her feeling left out when we went on's all an issue of control and she had made plans for my husband to help them work on a house over the 4th of July holiday. They didn't tell him until a week before and then she was upset because he went ahead and went on vacation with us instead of changing his plans. My son had a full time job for the summer and that was the only week that my husband and my son could both get a week off at the same time. It seems like such a silly thing to be upset over, but MIL is so angry about it that she turned away and acted like she didn't see my husband in the grocery store the other day. My husband and I are both kind of feeling like the fair yesterday was the last straw and we are finished with trying to please her. His whole family situation is so different from mine that I will never get used to it anyway. Sometimes I really have to wonder how he turned out so great.

Had to laugh about the "tinkle queen"...I remember what that was like but it was a looong time ago. Now the only "tinkler" I have to worry about is the dog. He is really a good dog but there are days when I just shake my head. I have cats so I litter trained him when he was a puppy. That would be fine except that, being a boy, his aim isn't always so good. I think a girl dog would be better for litter training...but this little guy is part of the family now so it's like cleaning up after a child.

I also don't eat red meat and haven't for about 8 years now. I still love poultry and fish but I just can't eat beef or pork anymore. I take a lot of teasing about it from my family because I grew up on a cattle & hog farm. My husband and I have actually talked about getting a few calves to raise and sell but he knows I'll get too attached to them and they'll end up being pets like everything else around here. Anyone else tried either Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers? I love them...that's what I always have when everyone else has burgers. I think they're great grilled.

The scale has just been moving soooo sloooow for me lately even though I know I haven't screwed up. I am still noticing changes in the way my clothes fit so I'm not too concerned about it yet. I just would like to see those numbers start to go down faster again. I know the weight will all come off eventually if I keep doing what I'm doing, but I get so impatient.

Great job everybody for sticking with your eating plans and exercising. We are going to have another hot day here but I'm not stressed at all about having to exercise indoors today. I think I better go get started. My sister is bringing her little ones over this afternoon so I want to be done when they get here and then I can get some more exercise chasing after her two year old. That little girl is just busy, busy, busy! I know I will be tired tonight!

08-08-2005, 12:22 PM
Boca and Gardenburgers are yummy!!! I used to have a recipe for chickpea burgers that were even better, tasted a bit more like turkey actually. I'll have to try and dig it out, I know it was mashed chickpeas and oats, can't remember what else was in there, it's been years. Oh, and the soy chicken nuggets....breaded and high in fat, but they are good too.

08-08-2005, 01:18 PM
I havent't had meat or chicken for about 8 years. My husband does tho and it makes preparing meals hard cause he wants it. So basically I make veggies and fish and pasta and I will make a chicken for him sometimes (I wear rubber gloves), and he can grill a burger or steak whenever. I can't even watch him eat the miserable bloody steak. When my kids are around I do make pot roast, cause they love it.
The worse time is going to a restaurant with my meateating friends and they order huge slabs of almost still alive meat and they eat it. So I guess I'm not a vegetarian for good moral reasons, mostly just cause it repulses me. Raising 4 kids I must have made a million burgers, and chicken and roasts. I just can't look at in anymore.
I hope I haven't offfended any meat lovers.
My second son didn't eat meat or chicken for about 10 years. Then he met a girl carnivore and they biked across the US and now he eats meat again cause he says it's the only way he can get enough calories for the strenuous riding they do. I think he likes it too. My other kids all eat meat too, but my oldest grandson has always refused, since he was very little, it has repulsed him. His miserable mother, my ex DIL, makes him stay at the table until he finishes whatever she serves even if it's steak. (My son is now in the court process to get sole custody but that's a whole other topic)

08-08-2005, 01:30 PM
Ugh that is terrible to do for kids-regardless of what it is. In the nutrition class I took in college, that was one of the things they said never to do cause it can cause all kinds of problems psychologically. I can remember going through that growing up. Sitting there until I finished my dinner. One time I sat for like 4 hours I think. I just didn't want to eat it for whatever reason. Guess you could say I was a stubborn kid. I always ask my kids to 'try' it but never make them eat it or clean their plates cause there are starving kids in India-that was a famous line when I was growing up-or it might have been china. I still sometimes battle that-I am full but there is still food on my plate so I feel like I have to finish it. I am getting better but it is still hard sometimes.

08-08-2005, 02:21 PM
Hi everyone!

I have been AWOL for a couple days as it was CRAZED around my house this weekend..Oldest daughter has a job... that is a big load off my mind, it pays well (for around here) is full time and has benefits and training too. so she is doing ok. We are even kinda getting along..wanted to kick her Saturday as she cleaned out her room and what she didn't want just left in piles in the room and in the living room.. I figured not to push things and cleaned it up with help from dad, but it took me 5 hours to organize and pack up and toss out. Then I had other house work to do.
Then I get a call from work Sat afternoon and the music disk for printing died.. computer ate it - spent 4 hours there and didn't get home till 7- so hubby bought BBQ.. and I wasn't real good but I wan't too bad either as I passed up the mayo based foods and Garlic bread but I had BBQ pulled pork and salad.. I figure with all the work at home cleaning Sat and Sunday I wasn't too bad and maybe burned a few calories

Today was the first day of school YAY! :cp: They are back in school YAY! :cb: and except for the insane rush of getting kids in the car and taking them to the school -things went very well,but the first 2 weeks is always a nightmare -Traffic is unreal, They have to sign up a month at a time for lunches and picking and choosing what days they wanted lunch took a while.
Laura and Melissa- I agree with you about the clean your plate issue. I can remember sitting there for hours sometimes because I wouldn't eat something I thought was yucky, didn't want or just wasn't hungry.. and then the times where I got if you don't eat everything or eat that you'll hurt someone's feelings as aunt, grandma, cousin made that chocolate cake,cookies,brownies fried chicken special for you. I am getting better but I have to stop and think what I am eating and why I am eating..
Sorry for going on so long..
I am so happy everyone is making such great strides!
Thank you for the support!

08-08-2005, 03:59 PM
I am glad to hear so many other mommies aren't forcing their kids to eat everything on their plates. When my kids say they are done, I say "Make sure you're tummy's all full, because i'm not cooking no more tonight" or "until supper" whatever the meal is. Sometimes they'll take a few more bites, but usually they are just full and I let them stop. I want them to listen to their bodies, and there is no way I can tell if they are full or not. Another thing I do is to not pile up their plates real full. I'd rather them ask for more than keep eating becuase it's there. I give them a good bit, but not too much.

Laura, I also still cook meat for hubby and kids. I will let the kids grow up and make their own decision on that, in the meantime I will keep feeding them healthy meals, meat included daily. I don't mind touching or preparing it or even watching them eat (long as no blood is running out, ugh) but I just know I feel better if I don't eat it myself. Besides the fact that I just think it's disgusting eating a dead animal, just my personal feelings. I have never held anyone else to those, everyone has to make that decision for themselves, my kids included. I just feel like getting sick if I think about where it came from.

Okay, I have to go wake the hubby and kids from their naps...I got in 4 miles while they slept. It wasn't a very vigorous 4 miles because I was yakking on the phone with a friend through half of it lol but it got my sweat going a bit. Slow miles are still miles!


08-08-2005, 05:24 PM
I am so glad to hear things are leveling off although still kind of busy for you Sandi. That first chick out of the nest is always the hardest. Mine is 22 now and I still have a hard time-there is just so much that they DON'T know and think they do. Congrats on school- I still have about a month till Joshua goes back. Should be interesting with it being both a new school and new teacher-he doesn't do change very well. I am still planning on that walk after dinner. Josh has already asked if he can take his 3 wheeler along(big boy bigwheel). We have been trying to get him to try a bike but he just can't get it. Right OP today and when I saw my son's therapist today she asked me what was different and said I glowed-lol.

08-08-2005, 05:25 PM
My parents never tried to make me eat anything I didn't want was my school that tried to force kids to eat. I don't think I ever got noon recess in kindergarten because we had to eat everything on our plate and drink all of our milk or sit there quietly until it was time to go back to our room. I was miserable and hated school the whole year all because of lunch! My mom even went in to my school and talked to my teacher about it and she was told that those were the rules and I had to follow them like everybody else. At that time I was small and always sick with tonsillitis and couldn't eat much as it was. After I had my tonsils out in 1st grade I never had a problem with being able to eat again, but I will never ever forget how horrible my kindergarten year was.

08-08-2005, 05:46 PM
Is anyone who is counting calories bothering with goals on grams of carbs, fat and protein? I am getting most of my calories from carbs, and then fats and then protein. Do you think it matters re losing weight? I am eating about 4 fruits a day. Summer fruit is just the best and I just can't give it up. My DH has been buying the most wonderful breads at the farm market and I have had a piece each day, and then of course August tomatoes and corn are irresitable. According to www.fitday, I'm still coming out at around 1300 calories, but very low on protein. I hope it doesn't matter. Anyone have any ideas? thanks

08-08-2005, 05:58 PM
carbs are important-it is what your brain uses for functioning-along with most other vital organs. Alot of people confuse carbs with starchy foods ie bread, corn potato pasta ect. those convert into sugar when we eat them. The only thing I can see if maybe put protein over fat-protein gives the feeling of being full along with the fiber also. I don't think you can go wrong with fresh fruits and vegies-they are so full of the nutrition our bodies need. And then there are good fats and bad ones too. If your fats are from like an olive oil dressing, don't worry about it-that is a good oil but if it is from butter and the like, maybe cut a bit and put some protein in its place. That is my .02 worth lol

08-08-2005, 06:30 PM
Laura, I'm doing pretty much the same as you are. I'm not using a "diet" because I want to be able to continue eating like this forever and I just don't feel that I could do that with a "fad diet". I'm mainly counting calories and watching my portion size. I do think that it would be a good idea if you added some more protein though. I know if I don't get enough protein in a meal then I'm hungry again in an hour or so. I eat Special K Low Carb (blue box) for breakfast, not because it's low carb, but because it has 10g's of protein in it! One bowl with milk and fresh fruit holds me over until lunch with no problem! Tuna, chicken or turkey on a tossed salad for lunch would also add protein.

08-08-2005, 08:16 PM
Hi all!

Back from the long weekend and the fair - I did o.k. at the fair - no fried dough tho' (he didn't have the pizza sauce - the way I like it.) ;( Instead, I had a slice of pizza and some of my friends fries. So I didn't too badly at all!
Tonite I made homemade pizza and loaded my side with chopped spinach with a little bit of cheese - and didn't even notice the difference! (Yes - I am a pizza fiend!)

Sounds like everyone is doing great staying on track! Great Job! :cb:

Question - Am I the only one obsessing by weighing myself every day?

Take Care all!

08-08-2005, 08:24 PM
No you aren't the only one-I weigh not only every day but sometimes several times. I keep hoping as I get smaller, I won't obsess as much. I just want to be under 200 soooo bad!!!

08-08-2005, 09:25 PM
Well I did it! I got a walk in-short one because my son was crabbing so loudly that I had to stop and I had a guy whiz around the corner, almost getting us( I am very residental area) and when I told him to slow down he gave us a string of profanities. I just love exposing the kids to that-NOT. So I came home and got my cell phone just in case I needed to call 911. This guy was so hostile I could still him cussing me out when he was around the corner! Geez wonder if he kisses his mama with that mouth. But the long and short is that I did actually get some walking in and sweating! I want to thank whoever introduced cause that is a righteous site.

08-08-2005, 09:40 PM
No you aren't the only one -re: weighing yourself.. I so want to weigh myself everyday -sometimes a couple times a day, But I am only going to weigh myself when I need to hit my goals. I need to know that inches lost, clothes fitting better and feeling better /healthier is my goal and pounds lost is a perk..I so want to just hit under 170 for the first time in 8 -9 years.. I want to be able to go into the regular womans size area of the stores and wear an outfit that isn't too big one place and too small somewhere else.

I had to go see a nutritionist today for the insurance to pay for WW- (I never realized what really great insurance we have) I showed her my eating / food diary and she said the only problem I had was that I should eat fruit with protein (think 1/2 cup cottage cheese) as it will slow the sugar in the fruit.
Of course the BBQ pork on saturday was a big :no: :no:
But ya know she didn't tell me anything I didn't already know- I told her my problem was just doing what I knew to be right. It's easier to eat the cookies than to slice an apple.. she did say the same thing my dr. told me: eat nothing white unless it has 3 grams or more per serving & drink/eat No white foods unless it's fat free. So far it has helped on choices I am making in what to eat.- I think..she said WW would give me an easy way to track eating.. I just don't like all the intensity I have seen with some people on WW -so it's online for me..

Next Saturday will be a test for me as little bits and I are going with 22 kids
(and a few other Mom's)to see Veggie tales live.. and we are stopping at Mcdonalds on the way home. and it's 2 hours there and 2 hours back.. me in a bus with 16 little kids ages 3-8 arrgh what was I thinking??? it'll be fun- the adults will prolly have more fun than the kids LOL

:thanks: for all the support,ya'll are wonderful !

08-08-2005, 10:23 PM
Sandisuze - Thanks for the slowing sugar in fruit idea.
I am really having a protein problem since I am not eating meat and chicken. I haven't been buying shrimp cause of high cholesterol. I tried putting tofu and lots of seasoning on a tomato salad and that was ok. Tofu picks up flavors of other foods. I think I have to go to the fish store. I could live on cheese, but that's not a good idea. Protein really does curb hunger cause I'm at 1000 calories now, and not hungry at all.
It looks like we have been together now for 2 weeks and we are all posting regularly. This is a good thing.
Incidently, I pass by Martha Stewart's house in Bedford sometimes and it is the most gorgeuos color grey I have ever seen, if you can imagine gorgeous grey. According to the tabloids, which I read on line in the supermarket, she has lost a ton, and is really thin now, and about to marry a zillionaire. If she can do it, I can do it. (but I'll never have the zillionaire.)

08-08-2005, 10:55 PM
Laura, I have never been real big on tofu, but I read this tip that I never knew, so i guess I've just always done it wrong: if you freeze it, then thaw it back out it takes the consistency of actual meat! I always tried to just cook it and didn't like the mushiness, even of the firm kind. I am going to try to get some and freeze it...never knew I had to do that!

I did pretty good today. Eating was a bit off on times, but I didn't go overboard and didn't have red meat or sugar, so I am happy. I got a total of 5 miles in, didn't get the evening exercise session in but I did the first two so met my goal there.

Not sure how much I will be around tomorrow, busy day :( I want to just stay home and be bored and sloppy for once!


08-08-2005, 11:03 PM
Heck I would be happy with a thousandaire! Cottage cheese, yogurt, nuts (careful of fat) and legumes are all sources of protein and fiber too. Beans are also pretty versital and not just for chili anymore.

08-08-2005, 11:08 PM
Theresa - Ive never cooked with tofu, just diced it up and added it to veggies or a salad. There are some baked tofus that come all seasoned. I've used the Thai seasoned kind and it was good. I don't like any of the make believe meats that are made out of tofu and flavored to taste like hot dogs or hamburger. They are yucky.
I'll try the freezing thing too next time I shop. It might be nice scrambled with eggs if it holds together,

08-09-2005, 01:24 AM
Thanks for the tip for the tofu. I may try it again now. I have tried several times in the past in it was just yacky. There have been some WW recipes that call for it and I have avoided them but will try it.

08-09-2005, 01:49 AM
I have only been brave enough to try tofu-ice cream and was quite surprised by the taste of it. Once I got my head wrapped around the idea that it was tofu, I allowed myself to enjoy it. I'm such a picky eater though, so that probably has a lot to do with it.

The last few weeks have really put things into perspective for me. I've decided that I'm no longer going to eat red meat... I just can't stomach the thought of it. I love poultry and seafood though so giving those up are simply out of the question.

I informed DH tonight that I will only cook red meat for him once a week, and if he wants it more than that, well, he's going to either have to cook it up himself or eat out at a restaurant. I had such a serious aversion to meat when I was pregnant... the sight, the smell, the taste... and well, it seems to have returned.

Today was good. Ate right on target. Did my strength-training and walked 4mi. My official WI is tomorrow and I'm hoping to be down! :crossed: Guess we'll see...!

Well, I sure hope you all had a great day... and that tomorrow is even better! :)

Have to get DD off to bed now....! Best wishes!


08-09-2005, 02:38 AM
I love tempeh (sp?) it's protein filled and it is great in stirfry. Like tofu it takes on the flavor of whatever it's mixed with, but it's more grainy tasting than tofu.
I was a veggie for 12 years and just started eating chicken and fish this year - couldn't go back to not eating meat if you paid me.

08-09-2005, 07:03 AM
hi y'all. those tofu ideas sound really good. i used to eat a lot of plain tofu but i got tired of it for some reason. maybe i should try that tofu ice cream. i wonder where you get it. i have had all sorts of strange flavors of ice cream but never tofu.
melissa, that guy who almost ran you down sounds so familiar! no way i could walk for exercise around here, it dangerous enough just to cross the street to go the grocery store! hmm, i remember when i was in wa that there was a real concern about folks from ca invading.. maybe guys like that is what they meant :)

08-09-2005, 11:26 AM
Yikes! I guess I never thought about the hazards of walking in busier areas. It's rare for me to even see a car when I go for walks, but last week my neighbor's donkey got out and followed me down the road. I would be scared to death if somebody almost ran over me and then started yelling at me.

I haven't tried anything with tofu because I never know what I would do with it if I bought any. I will have to look around for some recipes and try something. I am not much of a cook so I will have to find something simple.

I am feeling much better today because the scale finally moved this morning. Hopefully the loss will stick so that I can report it for the WI tomorrow. Re scale obsession...I am terrible about this. I got a new scale a week or so ago and it was hard to read so I went and got a second scale (digital). Now I use them both every day. How ridiculous is that. I also thought it would get better as the numbers went down but it hasn't been that way for me. I really need to work on staying off of that thing. I'm hoping that I won't worry about it so much when I start back to work in the next couple of weeks.

I had a nice day yesterday with my sister and her little ones, and bless her heart she called me skinny. Now, I know she was just being a good sister but it really made me feel good anyway. She is a nurse and very particular about weight so it made my day.

Hope everybody is having a happy and healthy Tuesday! I so look forward every day to coming here and reading how everybody is doing.

08-09-2005, 12:15 PM
I also bought a new scale last week-digital. I think it is 5 lbs heavier than my old one. So I will add 5 pounds to my starting weight and redo my tracker tomorrow, but I'll still be able to figure out if I lost this week, which really is all that matters.
We had an early morning meeting this AM so I am first making breakfast for me and dh now. I threw all veggies and diced onions in a pan, cooked a bit, then 2 beat up eggs with some diced asiago cheese. Cook till the bottom forms, then under the broiler for a few minutes. That and a fruit will keep me till dinner , I hope. Tomorrow is my first WI. I am anxious.
I am forcing myself to stay off the scale cause I know once I start I will be obsessive and I am crazy enough without that. It's hard tho.

08-09-2005, 01:40 PM
Hey ladies, sounds like everyone is in fine form this Tuesday! :) Keep up the amazing work! I'm looking forward to seeing all your grand results tomorrow a.m.! :)

WI was today for me... down another 2lbs! :) But like last week, will WI again tomorrow... on the off-chance that I'm down a lil' bit more. :crossed:

I have yet to get any exercise in today... but will do strength-training for sure. I'll even *attempt* the kickboxing.


cadwell... I haven't found tofu icecream in the grocery store, granted, I haven't looked for it either. We have this excellent ice cream palor downtown that offers it as a low fat option. It has a bit of a chalky after-taste, but overall, not bad.

KayElle... A donkey followed you?! I think that would have scared me 1/2 to death! ;) Good job getting the scale to move on down! That's fabulous! Looking forward to seeing your new numbers tomorrow morning! :)

LauraB... That breakfast you made yourself sounds wonderful! I will have to try that out for a weekend breakfast for DH! I'm certain he would enjoy it! I'm not much of an egg-eater myself. :) Congrats on being able to stay off of the scale... that's an achievement in itself! I wish I had your determination. Good luck on WI tomorrow, I'm sure you'll see the numbers move.... you've done very well! Keep up the great work!

Everyone else... a great big :wave: ! Take care and have a great day!

Gotta go for now, girls! Stay HAPPY and HEALTHY! :)


08-09-2005, 02:57 PM
Re: tofu ice cream Around here they sell a brand in the major grocery stores called toffuti- I have tried it - it's very silky But I am not a big one for ice cream though- I'd rather have cake than ice cream- make that CHEESECAKE ;) I think my hubby and kids would lead a revolt if I tried to serve tofu.. maybe I should try some for me.. I will look for recipes ..

I didn't exercise yesterday But I did push a lawn mower for 20 minutes then my neighbor and I used the weed eater on the front of the houses and then we weeded our flower beds so does that count as exercise?? I was so tired I crashed at 8:30 last night - I am hoping it stays clear this afternoon after work so I can finish the back yard ( we have a neighbor who leaves trash all over and it blows around and ends up in our yard) :mad:
Ohh a donkey?? I would be so terrified-
LauraB- don't give up on scales/weighing yourself thingy!!!! COngrats on your efforts so far! I can't believe I haven't weighed myself - I just made hubby put it away -But I so want to sneak it- my fear is that I've been being good on my eating habits 98% of the time and I won't have lost any weight :?: Then I will :cry: . I count the days until I can weigh in.. and that breakfast sounded so yummy!
Had a nice salad from Chick -fil -a today really fresh and just enough crunch to make me happy!
well I am gonna look up some tofu recipes LOL maybe I can trick the family into eating it :s:
Thank again everyone for support - you all are wonderful!

08-09-2005, 03:50 PM
Yes that counts as excersize! I did a bit of yard work after our walk yesterday too and boy did it pay off on the scale! Even though my son will probably have a fit again, we are going to walk a bit after dinner. I slept like a baby last night. The changes in the food in the house and excersize are paying off for him too-he was down 3 pounds today when I took him in for his medicine checkup. they had put him on med that made him gain 26lb in 6 weeks and we are still trying to get rid of the extra weight now. So hard with him because he is so compulsive and just focuses on meals and food constantly. I get a tally of what time it is constantly with him and he reminds me what time meal time is.

08-09-2005, 04:09 PM
I had a nice day yesterday with my sister and her little ones, and bless her heart she called me skinny. Now, I know she was just being a good sister but it really made me feel good anyway.

I don't think she was just being a sister. Look how much weight you have lost!!!!! I can't see you, but I know from the numbers that you look way skinnier now than when you started out. Give yourself credit, girl! You are SKINNY...and you will be even more so when you reach your goal.

08-09-2005, 04:22 PM
I haven't gotten any exercise in today and I missed my evening workout yesterday and I am feeling kinda grouchy :devil: I didn't realize how I've grown to need that exercise to feel happy and healthy. I stepped on the scale this morning, remember I had TOM last week and didn't weigh in, so it's been 2 weeks and I just couldn't wait until tomorrow. EXACTLY THE SAME :tantrum: How could that be possible? This is the point I would normally give up and go find something yummy to eat and say "oh well, I can't lose even when I why try?"

But I am NOT DOING IT THIS TIME. I know I can lose more. I lost 5 in ONE WEEK, and have kept it off for TWO WEEKS. That's what I need to remind myself. I know it's my eating that is holding me back, and even without the red meat it's not been much better. I feel better without that meat, but it's not going to drop the weight off, I know that because I was a vegetarian when I started having my weight issues.

So, I am going back to South Beach, but will do it vegetarian and will make it past the first two weeks this time lol That is the only diet that I ever felt I could live with forever and that I enjoyed. It's very similar to how I used to eat before I had a weight issue. Even phase one, the restrticted phase, was not bad for me at all, I just really missed fruit.

But, I am going to start with phase two because when I did phase one I couldn't exercise without feeling I'd pass out--no carbs on that phase, and you need that to exercise...and I am a grouch without exercise!!! So, I'll start with phase two, keep up my exercise, and look forward to reaching my goal weight and moving onto phase three.

:snail: Next week the scale better move! But, I know this is a long term process since I am doing it the right way and it will just take snail slide at a time.

08-09-2005, 05:04 PM
Purple- The 5 pounds is still gone, and that's so good. If you had lost 1 3/4 pounds each week perhaps you wouldn't be distressed. Part of the initial 5 pounds could have been lots of water and the fat caught up. It's good to follow a plan too.

08-09-2005, 06:25 PM
Well this donkey isn't really scary at all. He is a friendly guy and not very big, either. Now if it had been a bull or something...I would have hightailed it home!

Congrats on the loss, macdeez!

Those of you who are able to stay away from the scale between WI's...that is awesome. I think I am going to make that a goal once I start back to work. It is really hard for me not to step on at least once a day.

Sandi it sounds like you got a good bit of exercise. Yardwork is great and works a lot of different muscles along with getting your heart pumping.

Glad to hear that your son is benefitting from your lifestyle changes, Melissa...that in itself makes it all worth it. and good job keeping that scale moving. Good luck with the walk today and I hope you don't meet up with anyone like that crazy driver again.

Purple...I know I am quite a bit smaller than I was 8 months ago, but it still surprised me when she said that and made me really happy. It's been a long time since I've been called "skinny". I hope when I get down to my goal this time I'll be able to actually see and believe that I am not fat anymore. As far as the scale not moving...LauraB is right...your body is probably just catching up from the initial water loss. I had something similar happen when I started...lost 4 pounds and then nothing for a while and then another big jump down. Good for you sticking with it no matter WILL see results.

Well it looks like we are in for another thunderstorm...guess I won't get my afternoon walk unless it clears off pretty soon. I got 4 miles in this morning but I was hoping for a couple more. I might have to settle for the exercise bike instead.

Ice Princess
08-09-2005, 07:17 PM
I havn't weighed in since last week some time , but tommoorw I go to Curves for a *anallasis* so I will come here tomorrow with all my stats. I know I can do it. One girl at curves has lost 40lbs since April 1 thats like 12 lbs a month doing curves 3 times a week for a half hour, my kids are older now so I think they can manage 1 1/2hours a week with out me, gonna try and see what happens and depending on the $$$$$$ we'll see I heard they are offering a discount right now so have to see.

08-09-2005, 07:51 PM
Let us know what you think of Curves, Ice Princess. We have one of those here in our town but I've heard mixed reactions of the program. I don't have the $ right now to join anything, so I'm curious what you will experience in you analysis!

My car broke down today :cry: but we did make it home and I have no idea what is wrong with it. Hubby will look at it when he gets in, but since he's a truck driver who knows when that will be. Hopefully tomorrow, but could be as late as Friday. I hate being without a car. If he can't fix it, then it'll have to go into the shop and depending on how much it costs we may or may not be able to do it this weekend. :crossed: he knows a lot about cars and can fix anything that doesn't have to do with the computer, which the they use a machine or something to get into. Hopefully, it's something he can fix! It was kinda scary driving home though, with the two babies with me and hoping I make it home before something blows.

I haven't had any water today and still haven't had a chance to exercise. The babes will be in their beds a bit early and I am determined to get a good session in watching Big Brother tonight, and hopefully there will be something worth watching after that because I think I'll feel like keeping on with it.

A friend mentioned to me today that there might be some negative effect with working out 2 or 3 times a day...even though I'm just walking and doing gazelle which is much like walking. She said something about it undoing itself or being too much?? My muscles are not sore and I only do as much as I am comfortable with--physically and mentally. Some days I do like 10 miles, others I do like 2 miles, but I think my average like 5 miles. I just don't think that's alot, even if it is split into different sessions throughout the day.

What do you guys think/know about this? How much is too much?

08-09-2005, 09:29 PM
I don't think you can be too fit really. I think as long as you are comfortable doing what you are doing you will be ok. I did get my little walk in again, although once again the whole thing was a battle with my son. He keeps screaming it is a nightmare the whole time. I am surprised people don't come out to make sure I am not killing him (tempting though it may be at times). No mad crazy drivers today so that was nice. I don't think he was someone from the neighborhood. I am really excited to get on the scale again. One thing I have noticed I just don't feel so bloated all the time and when I put my jeans on today, they were kinda baggy-baggy is good. Can't wait to give them to charity cause I never want to see them again. Sorry about your car Purple-been there more times than I can count-guess it is cause I always seem to have cars older than dirt. Well I suppose I should get busy on the weekly email-looking forward to hearing from everyone!

08-09-2005, 09:45 PM
Evening, everyone! I hope you all had a lovely day! :)

Theresa... Not sure what would be considered "too much exercise". I think it depends on the individual. If you're capable of doing 10mi without either falling down from exhaustion or from dehydration, I say go for it! Pro-atheletes train 6-8hrs a day so the human body is definitely able to exercise a lot. We were meant to move our muscles! :) Listen to what your body tells you, that's the most important thing. :) Sorry to hear about your car... man alive, don't I know what it's like to have a vehicle break down on ya! My husband's a mechanic so you'd think our truck would be in tip top shape... right?! Uh... no. ;) Let us know what happens. :)

Ice Princess... Good luck tomorrow @ Curves. Definitely fill us in on your analysis! :) I've heard some great reviews about the program! :)

KayElle... So, did you get hit with that thunderstorm afterall? I agree with Theresa, your numbers definitely = a skinny you! :) Fabulous! :)

Melissa... Glad to hear the scale brought happy news to both you and your son! That's fabulous that he's lost 3lb! Congrats to him! :) Looking forward to finding out how much you're down tomorrow a.m.! :)

As for me, I have yet to do that kickboxing dvd today. In my defense, the dvd player that was previously in the living room broke and the one in our bedroom has yet to be moved over. And to be honest, I would probably break that one too if I attempted the move. Yeah, not technologically advanced whatsoever. It's almost amazing that I don't get lost coming to this site every day! ;) I did however get 35min worth of strength training in plus a 20min jog! Tonight after dinner, will get our 4mi walk in... and if I'm feeling energetic, I'll see about that dvd...! ;)

I found that I really enjoyed the jog... so for this week I'm gonna jog for 20min then up it by 10min each week until I hit an hr. <--- Am I actually setting a goal to jog regularily?! :lol:

Anyway girls, that's it from me. I gotta go get myself cleaned up for dinner. Have a great night, good luck to all of you on your WI's! :) Type you tomorrow!


08-09-2005, 09:58 PM
I am comfortable doing the exercise I do. I don't think I could do the 10 miles everyday, and it works for me doing a lot on days when I can, getting in much as possible when I don't have time. Last month I did 103 miles total, and that was a shock to me. I didn't realize I did that month, and if I keep on schedule i'll do even more this month!!! I am comfortable and always stop when I think I need to, even if it's short of my goal, so I will just keep on going and not worry about it. The thing is I just like doing it now, so when I feel I want to keep going...I do!

Now I just need to get going with strength training again. I want to be firm as well as skinny! There's really no excuse for this since we have one of those big weight machine thingies out in the garage, which I had hubby clean off and move things around so I can get to it...and I have the 2 DVD set of Lift Weight to Lose Weight and it is GREAT, it's also like cardio. I need to get going again and now that I can get to the one in the garage there is NO excuse!

And Mel, 4 mile walk, 35 min. strength training, and a 20 min. job...I don't think you can get down on yourself if you don't have the energy to do kickboxing LOL girl, that's a lot of moving :cp: YOu deserve a bubble bath!

08-09-2005, 10:00 PM
Hmm I 'm not sure about the exercise thing as I am not knowledgeable enough about exercising- But I know I am doing 15 minutes of bike riding in the a.m. and either biking another 15 minutes or doing a shaping / weight resistance video I am using the bands for now (good old richard simmons videos are 99 cents each at good will LOL) I agree with mel tho on listening to the body..
Dr. told me that was good as a start and I should alternate cardio with weight resistance to help burn fat and build muscle. Seems to me I did read something about 3 -10 minutes walks a day was better than no walking..but again I am no expert on exercise. But I have gone from 5-6 minutes up to 15 now and maybe next month I can do 20..
macdeez- YAY on the 2lbs! that is so awesome!
Purple - I hope hubby can fix the car.
Well I am off to look up tofu recipes again and ride the bike, make chicken salad for hubby's lunch and finish my last load of laundry for tonight
Night all ! :yawn:

08-09-2005, 11:00 PM
melissa - that's cool about your baggy jeans! Purple, I think maybe your friend was talking about lifting weights. I don't really think you could get enough cardio. On a side note, I can't believe how much you're doing! You go chica! Melissa, I was just rereading you post and thought to myself, "if she can get out there with her son then I can get off my butt and go for a walk!" Thanks for the inspiration.

08-10-2005, 01:31 AM
Yep my son and two toddlers in a stroller! The girls love it. Each time I get close to the house, Odessa starts saying No No No cause she wants to keep going. I think she would walk me into the ground if I let her. Now that I have gotten out there and doing it, kind of look forward to it, although would enjoy it more if mr. crabbypants would get with the program.

08-10-2005, 08:24 AM
I know I am quite a bit smaller than I was 8 months ago, but it still surprised me when she said that and made me really happy. It's been a long time since I've been called "skinny".
that's awesome kayelle!
my friend said something kinda like that to me the other day and i was pretty surprised. i joked that if i was involved with the drama-rama with her "chat room," i would be in the "fat faction" (which is now dueling with my friend and the rest of the opposing group). she said i was not fat and would have to be allied with the hot chicks. i have always been fat, and it is nice to know that now at least someone thinks i am hot enough to do battle online on behalf of the world's oppressed skinny people. lol.
well, i am so jazzed because i lost that durn pound that popped up last weigh-in, plus two more. yay! now i'm :crossed: to fit into those cute "skinny" pants i have been hanging on to by august 23 so i can wear them to my big job interview. well, mostly i'm just hoping to get the job, since i have wanted it for seven years. but the pants would be a good bonus.

08-10-2005, 09:40 AM
Wow! Everyone is doing SO good! Woohoo! :grouphug:

08-10-2005, 10:30 AM
Cadwell, just keep those skinny pants in mind and keep will be surprised when you slip into them for the interview.

I got six miles in last night, but the scale is still in the same place. I have to get serious on eating healthier because exercise is not going to carry me through alone. I'm going to stick with my plan of cutting out meat and count calories as well. I wanted to do SB again, but it was just so hard to do that with the kids because I was buying all my food, plus things they need and like and the food bill was so high, then a lot of times cooking two separate meals or extra things to add to theirs, and keeping straight what was for me, what was for's just too hard with small kids! I don't want to put them on a diet with me because...well cause they're children and they are healthy and need lots of things that I don't, like fat.

Anyway, I'm going to just keep to cutting out the meat one month at a time and count calories. Even though counting is hard for me, I have to get over it. Otherwise, I just keep switching from one diet to another and gaining weight in between. Counting is the best thing and i"m just sticking to it...that's it! Now to figure out how many calories I need to eat. I tried 1500 and i was starving to death all the time and didn't have enough energy to all my exercise, which made me grumpy. So, I guess I'll up it to 1800 and see how I feel on that. Everytime I use one of the online calculator things it gives me over 3000 and I know that is way too many.

The eating part is just so hard for me, I feel I will never find what is right for me. :?:

08-10-2005, 10:45 AM
The emails look so good -WOW
I had to redo everything cause I got a new scale-digital and it is 6.5 pounds heavier than my very old, probably inaccurate one which is now in the garbage.
so I weighed in on both, the old one said minus 2 and I just added 6.5 to my starting weight and redid my tracker and it shows the 2 pound loss.
I can't figure out how you change your slider from week to week. Do you have to do the whole thing over each week?

08-10-2005, 11:20 AM
I can't figure out how you change your slider from week to week. Do you have to do the whole thing over each week?

Hi Laura - No you don't - Just go into your User CP and hit edit signature - the text of your signature will come up and look like this 178/172.5/145 it shows your starting weight /current weight/goal

just go in and change the middle number (current weight)
and it will change your tracker w/out having to redo it every time.
Hope that helps!

08-10-2005, 11:43 AM
I just had my first meal for the day, kinda late but the kids were not hungry this morning and I hate making food only to have it thrown on the floor. While counting out the calories I was thinking that it actually gives me more control than just eating whatever I want. Control is an issue of mine, I don't like following a diet and being told what I cannot eat. So, I kinda rethought it and realized that with counting calories I can still eat what I want, just long as it fits into the calories for the day. It will hopefully teach me portion control. I can control not only what I eat but how much and how I allow it to affect my body.

So, now I am wondering about fat grams. Does anyone else count those, and what is a healthy limit? Right now I'm just writing them down to see what they come out to be when I stay under my calorie limit. I might worry about limiting them later, but right now I jus want to see what I come out at naturally. I'm doing 1800 calories today but it still might not be enough on days that exercise a lot. Last night I burned 700 calories doing 6 miles on the gazelle, but on some days I do even more than that...then add in all I burn during the day playing with the kids, chasing them around, doing housework and yardwork, and I am burning a lot. That is why 1500 just wasn't enough to keep my energy up and belly full.

Okay, I will stop rambling. I need to go get some water...very, very thirsty after not drinking anything but a glass of kool aid all day yesterday. I know we people have to drink, but when I get really busy I tend to forget and just not drink anything at all. I have to stop that!

08-10-2005, 12:06 PM
Purple - I think it's good that you're dropping SB and counting instead. The reality is that all these diets are just another way of doing the counting for you. I don't think you should worry yet about fat or carbs. Just do your best for a while and then start to think about balancing fat carb and protein. It's too much to worry about all at once. That's what I'm doing now. helps cause at the end of the day when all my calories are done I can look at it and see what was worth it and what wasn't. For example, bread, for me takes up too many calories, except on Sunday morning when we go to the farm market and buy is so fresh and delicious. So it will be a Sunday thing. I want the things I do eat to be terrific, no quantity, but quality. Then maybe I won't feel so deprived.

08-10-2005, 12:16 PM
Wow great email responses this week and thank you for the tips and encouragement. I am so thrilled at the encouragement and advice everyone is so willing to give. I think it is invaluable for us all. Everyone keep up the good work!

08-10-2005, 12:21 PM
Wow! I think it's great that there are so many posting regularly here and keeping the board busy. Hope everybody is having a great day! We did have a very noisy thunderstorm here yesterday evening and it's still grey and rainy so I got up this morning and did 20 min. on the NordicTrack and 30 on the stationary bike. Hopefully I can get a walk in later, too. I'm going in to work tomorrow and we will be working on getting the llamas ready for another fair in the evening so I don't know how I'll get much exercise in. I may have to start getting up even earlier than I do now.

IcePrincess...Can't wait to hear how you like Curves. There is one not far from me but I've never really looked into it.

Purple...hope you get good news on the car. Glad you made it home ok. I need to get started with strength training as well, and we also have one of those big machines gathering dust. I've been putting it off for fear of setting off my back problems again, but I do need to give it a try and see if I can do it without pain. I don't count fat grams but I do make sure to keep fat intake under 30% of total calories. I look at the fat calories for the foods I eat and take that number times 3. If it's less than the total calories for that food, then I know it's ok. If it's much over total calories, then I know I'll have to compensate with lower fat foods the rest of the day.

Melissa...baggy jeans feel so good! You'll be giving them away before you know it! Hopefully your son will enjoy the walks more after it becomes a habit for him to go for a walk most days. Good for you getting out there and doing it even with the protests from him!

Mel...sounds like you got lots of exercise even without the kickboxing! I like jogging, too, it's hard for me but it always makes me feel like I really did something good for myself.

Sandi...soundsl like you are making great progress with exercising! Great job!

cadwell...good luck with the job interview! I bet you'll be able to wear those pants to it....but what if they're too loose by then? I'm always surprised at how fast my clothes go from tight to always happens faster than I think it will. I pulled out some of my old smaller clothes yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to find that I can comfortably wear some of my generously cut 8's.

Laura...I had to add 5 pounds when I got my new scale. Seems they must get less accurate as they get older.

Well have a great day everyone and I'm really enjoying reading all the emails and seeing everyone's progress!

Ice Princess
08-10-2005, 12:29 PM
Ok Ladies I have joined Curves, first work out is tommorow. Here are my starting stats,
Weight 264 lbs
Bust 52.25
Waist 47.25
Abdomen 54.5
Hips 52.5
Thighs 31.75
Arms 16
Body Fat % 43.8
BMI 40.2

Starting Stats, Ending stats will be great
Price $100.00 to jion membership fee (one time)
and $39.00 a month

08-10-2005, 12:59 PM
Glad to see you got to join you better actually go!!! Everytime I join a gym of any sort I end up never going...but we are holding you accountable! I know it will help you.

08-10-2005, 01:09 PM
Good for you Ice Princess! My sister belongs to Curves and loves it! I'm like Purple though...everytime I join a gym or something along those lines I don't go enough to make the price worth it. I seem to do better exercising on my own.

Does anyone have any ideas for easy low calorie lunches? I'm getting tired of salads and yogurt! :lol:

08-10-2005, 01:54 PM
what really great emails today.. I am on lunch now and taking 10 to read them and check in ;)
Purple, You are so doing the right thing by counting calories - all diets come and go and some are good and some are bad, but the only thing that is steady about weight loss is calories taken in VS. calories burned = weight loss. I have the SB book and thought about it but it seemed too expensive with a family not eating the same way so I have made a couple recipes , modified them a bit-but don't follow it! Everyone I know who has successfully taken off weight and kept it off have watched calories and fat, exercised and never followed a "diet" well, I can say that except WW- one friend lost 145 lbs and kept if off for 6 years while doing WW
I do know I was told not to eat more than 30-35 grams of fat per day -But that's my dr.'s orders for me - everyone is different
Yay on joining the gym Ice Princess- I have heard good things about curves

gee SuzyMc :lol: I was thinking if anyone had any good dinner ideas?? I am so tired of thinking what to make for dinner, shopping and then cooking and then cleaning up. I do lean cuisines, or healthy choice meals with a salad or green beans and a fruit for dessert -how about tuna or chicken in a wrap with veggies, a garden burger is another fav of mine.. I also do leftovers in one of those gladwear divided containers as they are easy for the right size portions . and my real fav is green beans with italian dressing (Lofat) and a baked sweet potato along with an apple for dessert. Lots of fiber ;)
Everyone have a good day..
I have to go grocery shopping :( Must resist candy at end of aisles and at check out counters, must resist little ladies with samples who want you to try EVERYTHING.
Thanks again for support!

08-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Great job this past week, ladies! :) We sure did kick some booty! ;)

Theresa... Yeah, counting is the way to go! It really puts things into perspective when you see the numbers at the end of the day. Not sure what you should be at in re: to fat grams, but I definitely have to agree that you should just focus on the cals for now.

cadwell... If you keep up this fantastic progress, those skinny interview pants *WILL* be too big on you! :D Congrats on the loss!

LauraB... Good job shedding 2lbs this past week! That's phenom! :) Keep up the amazing work!

KayElle... Great work getting almost an hr of exercise in this a.m.! That's stellar! I'll cross my fingers that the weather clears up enough for you to get that walk in! :)

Ice Princess... Congrat on joining Curves! I'm sure you'll do fabulously at it! Definitely keep us up to date with your progess! :)

SuzyMc... Low cal lunches? Hmmmm... well, I definitely second the wraps! And what about a veggie stirfry? Yummy! :)

Sandisuze... Good luck grocery shopping today! I most definitely hate those displays of chocolate bars (my nemesis!). Be strong, you can do it! :)

As for me... well, today marks 3 weeks since I re-started OP (I started around Dec 04 and went off 'round April-ish). It's been said that it takes 3wks to replace one habit with another one. And I'm feeling like that's the total truth. I can actually have chocolate in the house w/out eating it! That's HUGE for me. Everything is becoming routine, like I don't even have to think about it anymore. :) I love that. :)

DH, DD and I went out for dinner last night (to our fav. restaurant that serves "Lifestyle" choices). :) I decided to wear my size 9's khaki's and well, even with the belt, they were a lil' baggy! I was definitely sittin' on cloud 9 about that! :)

Today looks good. I'm going to aim for 40min of strength-training and do another 20min jog. Then a 4mi walk this evening. :) Can you tell I'm seriously avoiding that kickboxing DVD?! ;) Ah well. I'm so blinkin' uncoordinated, I flop around like a fish outta water. Yes, it's really that bad.

Anyways, ladies, I must be off. A tonne of stuff to get done today. I hope you all have a wonderful day! Congrats to all of you for you continued dedication to this process! :) Best wishes!


08-10-2005, 05:10 PM
A good place to look for meal ideas in on this site. They have a whole bunch and I have gotten some tasty ones. I survived the grocery store with all the kids and must have unloaded alot of calories! I loaded up on fresh fruit and the kids went nuts-Joshua even requested pears! I almost fell over. We went by the mac and cheese and he said, "none of that. we don't eat it." Praise the Lord, I think he is finally getting it. He did try watermelon, didn't like it but Odessa sure did. Cracks me up, my cupboard for canned is practically empty, freezer is too but I have the fridge crammed so full I can't find anything. I am pooped out so I don't think I will get the walk in today. The kids trashed the house again so I will get some more excersize in that way today. I was so thrilled to see all the emails today and the successes and sticktoitness we are all having. Keep up the great work!

08-10-2005, 05:33 PM
So, now I am wondering about fat grams. Does anyone else count those, and what is a healthy limit? Right now I'm just writing them down to see what they come out to be when I stay under my calorie limit.

i haven't been counting fat because high fat foods are naturally high in calories too, so with a calorie limit i can't eat too much of those things. but if i eat foods with fat, i find i stay fuller longer. i would rather eat a little fat and be full than munch on too many empty fat-free carbs. but if you want to try tracking them, my trainer told me that a good breakdown is 20% fat, 60% carbs, and 20% protein.

kayelle, that is too funny about the pants. well i guess it would be awesome if they were too baggy by then. but then again they were $60, so i hope i get to wear them again at least once. lol. if i get this job i think i will get some new pants like those. they are hot.

08-10-2005, 05:45 PM
Does anyone have any ideas for easy low calorie lunches? I'm getting tired of salads and yogurt!
i like to have a sandwich made with light bread. almost any kind of sandwich fits into my calorie target if i cut off those 120-160 extra calories from using regular bread. it's kind of expensive though. another good low calorie lunch i like is watermelon and soynuts. those soynuts keep me full and have a lot of protein.

08-10-2005, 06:07 PM
I did check out a few recipes on here and may try one or two..I have to be sneaky with my family sometimes and NOT tell them it's good for them.. When I made Lofat/lo calorie fettucinni alfredo with whole wheat pasta they devoured it and then I made the mistake of telling them it was healthier for them and you'd have thought I'd poisoned them..

I just heard from the insurance company and since I am ..."Morbific Obesity..
( which mean I have disease causing FAT) Ok that is the first time anyone said those words to me.. My dr. wrote in BIG letters across my paperwork - reason for prescription: Morbid Obesity. ARRGHGHGHGH I wanted to eat everything in sight and even stuff that wan't in sight.But I was good and had 2 SF/FF jellos cause I was pouting. When they say it like that is sounds so ....icky ...maybe it is true but ...geee .. ( sorry for the whining) But anyway because of my being so obsese I qualify for their healthy education program .. and they will pay for WW -I have a 10% co pay..which isn't bad. I am joining online cause 1. it's cheaper and 2. I do not like the meetings. They rent rooms from us on Saturdays and I have been at work listening to their meetings and I don't care for their leader.. she is very pushy on buying only WW products.. SO I am gonna learn all about points..
I guess being fat does have some benefits ;) feeling better now
But I am stressing over weighing again.. I mean what if I wait till Aug. 24 and I haven't lost any weight??? ARRGHGHGH Just venting again ..sorry...I guess I need to stop whining and complaining and be thankful that I can do WW to help me.
Just needed to spout off to some friends - thanks all!

p.s. I passed up candy and even avoided the sample ladies at the grocery store and stuck to my list
Melissa -I have no idea how you can take kids to the store AND keep sane Come on.. Share your secrets LOL

08-10-2005, 07:05 PM
Well I am doing WW too so let me know if there is any recipes I can send you via email. It is the only way I cook now and I put the recipes on index cards and in my card file so it all looks kosher to anyone who is watching me cook. Sneaky but you gotta do what you gotta do or just rip the page out of the WW magazine and do it that way. I am also classified as Morbidly Obese and the first time I saw that, I wanted to cry so I know how hard it is. It is so good that your insurance will pay-about time they started investing in prevention for people. Here for you and let me know if you need some recipes.

08-10-2005, 10:34 PM
Okay, I did it and I am so happy with myself tonight :D I stayed under 1800 calories, 1765 to be exact. I think this a bit too many calories for me though. I starved on 1500, but I already felt full when I sat down to dinner tonight, and it looked like so much food but I sat there and ate it all so I could get my calories in. Then I kind of kicked myself and said I don't HAVE to eat them all lol I think the difference is how much exercise I do, which varies from day to day according to what is going on with the kids and such. When I did 1500 I was doing like 8 miles a day, sometimes more, so I needed more food. Today I only did 2 miles in the evening, so I didn't need as much. I could have made it on 1500 and been comfortable.

So, I am setting my calories at 1500-1700, and will aim to just be in there somewhere, depending on how much exercise I do. This way I can adjust it according to how much I am exerting. I do feel full right now, not overly stuffed just full enough to know I could have cut out some. Okay, live and learn and tomorrow is a new day. It was lunch that really filled me up: brown rice, beans, diced tomatoes, all mixed together with a dash of seasoned salt. It was yummy, but didn't leave any room for dinner! I will remember this and have it for dinner next time instead. Even the kids ate this and I was so happy, because it is one of my favorite fall backs from when I was a vegetarian, i used to eat it like every day.

My fat calories were 35 for the day, so I don't think that's too bad...and I wasn't even trying to watch that, just counted out of curiousity.

Glad to see everyone has survived another day...morbid obesity labels and grocery stores and all :p You all rock!


08-10-2005, 11:47 PM
My name is Jeanne and I am addicted to sweets. I have had a really bad week eating wise. Everytime I turn around, something is going on that puts me in an eating out situation and I have not been making great choices. And then, I am also my worst enemy. I was feeling bad for DH (why, I don't know - he is one of those naturally thin people that deserve hatred - LOL) because I hadn't bought snacks in weeks. Well, I broke down and bought some. Guess who ate them? Yep, me! I also have been really lazy with my exercise. Tonight I did talk DH into taking a walk with the kids and me. We went for a nice 30 - 40 minute walk, but with the 3 year old leading the way, we weren't traveling at any breakneck pace that put me in fat burning mode. Oh well, it was 40 min. that I wasn't stuffing my face.

Tonight I am going to bed with the resolve that this behavior is not going to continue. I WILL get up early and exercise before I concoct some excuse why I can't. I WILL have a healthy breakfast (the fruit is already cut up). I WILL have a sensible lunch and dinner. I WON'T eat or drink empty calories.

08-11-2005, 04:08 AM
sandisuzie - keep your chin up. the medicine profession has a way of making overweight people feel inferior and just plain wrong. What sucks is that the make you (or at least me) feel that way when we're trying to work on our weight. I'm sorry you had to deal with the feelings that came up today but that's great that they'll pay for WW.

Jeanne - I hear you with the sweets. I heard somewhere that sometimes it's helpful to write a list before you go to bed of all the reasons you want to stick to your eating plan or exercise plan the following day. The everytime you're faced with a choice you have the list ou made the night before to remind you why you may want to make a healthy choice. I dunno, I have never tried it. But sounds like it may help.

08-11-2005, 06:40 AM
jeanne -- eating out and having sweets around is always hard. you sound really determined though and that's great. it's ok to have a bad week sometimes. i think it can even be good. i think sometimes people can get diet fatigue, and it pays to have some indulgence every now and then. sometimes i feel if i don't eat a burrito i might hurt someone :bomb: . just keep a postive view of things and don't beat yourself up.
of course i take this too far.. tonight i had two desserts. probably did not need that ice cream cone even if it was reduced fat.
why can't i stop eating ice cream!?!

08-11-2005, 07:39 AM
I found this at in the "lighter fare" section, and it sounds very good. I thought our WW people might especially be interested since they say the entire pie is only 6 WW points! On another posting of the same thing there, someone else said it is only 58 calories per serving, 8 servings in a pie.

Fresh Crustless Strawberry Pie #108452
Delicious way to share the fresh strawberries of the season! Or don't! The entire "pie" is 6 WWers points.
4 cups strawberries
1 (1 1/3 ounce) box sugar-free vanilla pudding mix
1 (5/8 ounce) box sugar-free strawberry gelatin
2 cups water

6 servings

1. Use a small pudding mix and a large jello. The pudding mix and jello should be dry.
2. Use strawberry jello, sugar free.
3. Mix pudding mix and water together.
4. Bring to boil.
5. Remove from heat and mix in jello crystals.
6. Place strawberries in a pie pan.
7. Pour the mixture over the strawberries and chill for at least an hour.

It sounds really yummy and healthy, and very easy. My kids will just eat this up and it would be a great snack for me as well.


08-11-2005, 10:09 AM
Cadwell reminded me of something I heard not too long ago...there is a diet strategy where one day a week you can eat absolutely anything you want. It can also be once a month, but the idea is that when you eat a lot of bad things then start eating healthy it gives your body a shock, which is why many people will lose a lot of weight right when they first start, then it levels off. I know that can also be water coming out at first, but it is also a shock to the system so they said (there was a website, but I don't have a clue now what it was). Anyway, people were saying they lose and keep it off that way and if they are having cravings they just hold off until their free day, so it helps them stay OP the rest of the time.

I don't think this would work for me because I would go way overboard on my free day and it would leave me feeling miserable. I just don't want to do that to myself ever, ever again. I'm going to all the fast food websites today and making a list of some things I might eat when I wind up there, along with how many calories and fat grams in each. I'll put it in my purse so I am prepared to make an informed decision. I don't the stress of not knowing what to get.


08-11-2005, 10:10 AM
Sandisuze-Labeling people is terrible. I'm glad you are recovering from those mean words.
Jeanne- I need sweets so badly some days. I found Natural Choice Full of Fruit ice pops in the health food freezer in the supermarket. 60 calories, really really delicious, expensive-4 something for 6. But it makes me feel good to know there is something sweet at the end of the day and I would be spending more if I bought junk. Ben and Jerrys Cherry Garcia, which I can eat the whole container myself, is 3.25.
I did good last night. We went to a pot luck and I stayed within my calories. I even had a bite of a brownie.
Tonight is another dinner party. Just us, and I don't know what she is making, so I'll try to save as many calories as possuble for the evening. I can't tell people I'm dieting cause they have all seen me fail so many times before, but this time, I have you guys and i won't fail.

08-11-2005, 11:05 AM
Thanks for the lunch suggestions everyone! I'll have to try the wraps and I'm going to look for some lite bread too. I miss having sandwiches for lunch!

Sandi ~ Try not to let that diagnosis of morbid obesity bother you. Sure it's depressing to hear, but the good thing is that you are doing something about it!

Theresa ~ I'm going to look for the fast food calories too! That is a GREAT idea!

Jeane ~ I'm a sugar addict too! I would have killed for a big bowl of ice cream last night, but I ended up with a fudgecicle instead...only 60 calories and it tasted just as good. Ok, maybe not "just as good", but it was good and saved me about 500 calories. ;)

We're almost through another week...keep up the good work everyone!

08-11-2005, 11:18 AM
Suzy great choice staying away from the ice hubby ate all ours so it is no longer a threat...and I don't intend on buying anymore! I told him he could go get it himself if he really wants it. He needs to lose weight as well, so he can get some exercise going to fetch...but I know he won't he'd rather do without :D good for him.


08-11-2005, 11:26 AM
Thanks for he kind words and support, everyone! So far, so good for today. I walked on the treadmill for 35 min. After, I had a banana and a bowl of melon (honeydew and cantaloupe). I also drank close to 32 oz. of water when I was completing my walk.

Lunch is harder to plan for. Today I might scramble up some eggs - or maybe I'll hard boil some for egg salad. I would love to be able to eat tuna more often, but I am restricted with my tuna intake because I am still nursing. I can only have one can per month and I have already had my quota for August. I need to pick up a better bread for me when I go shopping later. My DH loves potato bread so that's usually what I buy since I don't eat too many sandwiches.

I know one of you gals mentioned planning what you eat at the beginning of the day. I think that's an excellent idea. I may pick up some extra tupperware containers for that purpose alone. That way, I can portion out my fruit and salads or cut veggies.

08-11-2005, 11:36 AM
Sandi - Does your grocery store have candy-free check outs? I am going to have to stick with those since that was part of my big downfall yesterday. They had candy bars on sale for 3/$1. I have a hard time passing up a bargain. I have to remind myself that crappy choices like that will be no bargain in the long run where my health is concerned.

Mel - a size 9! And baggy at that?! You go girl! Great job!

Melisa - great job on getting the whoile family on board with the healthy eating. My DD has a sweet tooth. She'll eat OK for breakfast, but the other meals can be a bit more challenging.

Cadwell - when is the interview? What is the position? Good luck!

Theresa - WTG with the calorie counting! Try to forget about the nasty label the doc gave you. My DH is thin, but truly must have heavy bones because he gets an overweight rating on some of those weight charts. Also, that dessert you posted sounds really good. When does strawberry season end? I figured it was over since the prices here have really started to rise.

08-11-2005, 11:39 AM
Laura - excellent work at the potluck! That really took a lot of determination.

Suzie - I may have to pick up some fudgecicles. I have some Italian ices in the freezer. They are not as low in calories (I think they are 120), but they are fat free and take awhile to eat.

08-11-2005, 12:03 PM
Theresa.. That recipe sounds YUMMY I am buying stuff today for it! maybe add some FF cool whip ??? and then rice and beans .. I make that and add medium salsa and chopped onions. sometimes I leave off the rice and roll it all in a Whole wheat tortilla - the lofat kind

Jeanne- I understand about sweets- I am addicted to bread, pasta, white potatoes and refined carbs- cake- cookies-chips.. I bring italian bread into the house and I can eat half the loaf slathered in butter all by myself.. so I told my family NO MORE breads like that in the house.

Thanks Melissa, Recipes will be appreciated- I am finding lots on WW recipes and even checked out the dottie's weight loss zone- I think someone had suggested it on here - I think people could do WW without joining WW ;) don't tell anyone I said that :sssh:

Thanks guys for all the nice words of encouragement- I was so down yesterday and blah.. I am doing better today and the WW points system seems to be pretty easy to figure out-it kinda takes the guess work out of what to eat and what not to eat.

I have got a couple of bad food days ahead and need to pre- plan so I don't go over points.
Saturday is the 2 hour (each way) trip to the veggie tales show and they are stopping at McDonalds ( I am addicted to fries...)will eat a salad or maybe a chicken sandwich with no mayo.. and then Tueday the 16 is family night at the Minor league ballpark - we all got free tickets for the game and they have NACHOS and hot dogs and BBQ ARRRGH - I think I will eat very carefully that day and eat a salad before I go and splurge on popcorn or even a hot dog. you can't take food into the park But the prices are cheap and they have bottled water too.

My one friend who lost 145lbs on WW told me she had all kinds of trouble with staying in points or calorie range until she started counting at her evening meal. she would start her points or calories with dinner and end them before dinner the next day. This way she ate dinner, had a nighttime snack, breakfast, snack, and if she was going over calories/points she would eat veggies and salads until dinner. that way she would have her bedtime snack and not stress over "I can't eat anymore tonight". It was easier for her to eat a salad for lunch and snack on some carrots and celery in the afternoon than to not have a serving of popcorn for a snack at night. I may try this way too-I'll see how it goes today..

Thanks again all for your support-
gotta get Back to work now.. :comp:

08-11-2005, 12:30 PM
chicken sandwich without mayo is 6pts so that isn't bad for a meal. fries for a small one is 5pts(kiddie size) It says in my book that the bacon ranch salad is only 3pts, cobb is 4 and caesar is 3 or the grilled chicken caesar is 4. There are quite a few choices that way. I find planning ahead helps me alot. 1 hotdog with a bun is 8pts.
Today is my icky day. I once again splurged and I find that one day a week thing isn't going to work for me. I spend the whole rest of the week losing what I gained instead of trying to get rid of the old weight that was already there. So yesterday was the last time for me-geez I think I said that last week too...

08-11-2005, 01:10 PM
That McDonald's grilled chicken Caesar salad is really good too. I had it the other day for lunch when I met up with some friends for lunch and shopping at the mall.

08-11-2005, 02:23 PM
Hey girls...

Thanks to all of you for WW-tips. I'm not doing WW, but the point-system *IS* another way to put things into perspective for us all! I've been having a tough time planning dinners for the family (I'll cook whatever DH wants and if it's not OP for me, I'll eat something different), so I'm hoping to find some mutually-liked recipes! :) It's really me who's the picky-eater in the family, so we'll see. ;)

Sandisuze... I'm sorry you had to endure such a painful label yesterday from your ins. company! Labels are really awful things...! :( I'm glad that they're eating the bill on the WW program though. I'm certain you'll see great results from it! :) As for the weekend ahead, definitely go into McDonalds armed with your list of "Can Haves..." and you should be a-ok! :)

Theresa... Congrats on staying below your cal. limit yesterday! :) It's super important to listen to your body... if you're full, don't force yourself to eat it simply to get your cals. in. Instead, maybe try a few smaller meals throughout the day... you are still getting what you need plus you're really kick-starting your metabolism. Just a thought. ;) Thanks for the strawberry pie recipe, I will definitely have to try that! Sounds super yummy!

Jeanne... I'm so totally with you on the sweet-tooth bit. Man alive, I would eat choc. chips just to get my "fix". Bad, I know. Good for you on getting a walk in last night! A walk is a walk! :) And today, 35min on the TM already! Stellar! WTG! As for planning the day's menu, first thing, yup, I have to. It really pays off to KNOW what I'm allowed... so when I feel that grumbly in my tummy, I can go into the fridge/cupboard and not have to hum-and-ha over what to eat. I find it easier to look past the cookies, ice cream, etc. :)

cadwell... Don't worry about the 2 desserts, today is a whole new day to work toward your goal! :)

LauraB... Congrats on staying OP at your potluck last night! That's fabulous! :) I'm sure you'll do fine at your dinner party again tonight! :) Keep up the amazing work!

SuzyMc... I usually buy WW bread (comes in whole wheat or white) from the grocery store, it's a lot smaller, and thinner, but still a great option when wanting toast or a sandwich. It is a bit more expensive, but worth it, I figure. :) That fudgsicle sounds delish! I will have to seek some out for those awful chocolate-cravings!

As for me... well, I did good yesterday, even though I wanted to binge like crazy after arguing with DH over something utterly ridiculous. But I didn't even venture into the kitchen other than to refill my glass of water.

DH and I have a date-night planned for Saturday and having done some online searching of restaurants, I found one that serves what sounds like a heavenly poached salmon with rice and vegetables. I figure that's far better than what we had previously decided on -- pub-fare! I already logged onto and entered my daily menu for that day. So much better to plan ahead.

Jogged for 25min yesterday and did 35min of strength-training. I'm taking today off... except for our walk this evening. Will be back doing the other stuff tomorrow.

Well ladies, I hope you're all having a great day! Take care of yourselves, stay HAPPY and HEALTHY! Best wishes sent to each and every one of you!


08-11-2005, 03:08 PM
I am starting to worry about eating away from home and special occasions. I did good last night at the pot luck because I knew there was going to be a fabulous shrimp, avacado and spinach salad and I didn't look at anything else and I just ate that. It was fabulous and I entered the shrimp avacado and 1 tablespoon olive oil in fatday and it was fine. But what do you do when you don't know what to expect and can't plan ahead. Tonight is a sit down dinner, just us and the hosts and I won' t have lots of choices. I don't want to say I'm dieting cause then it becomes a topic that can go on all night. Help.

08-11-2005, 03:27 PM
I can only tell you what I would do. If it is served to you, I would eat half of what I was given, except for any salad, veggies and say I was too full for dessert. I then kind of scoot things across my plate. I had learned to do that whenever my aunt made her seafood casserole cause it made me yak-lol. She thought I had eaten most of it when I had just scooted things around. If I served myself, I would load up mostly on the salad and just take little dollop of what was available but still avoid the dessert, feigning fullness.

08-11-2005, 06:04 PM
Thanks Melissa. That's a good idea. All of a sudden, after being homebodies for a while, we have a bunch of dinners and that is always where I just go wild eating. I don't want to do it this time. I am happiest eating in my own house and not having food as a social event right now.

08-11-2005, 06:04 PM
Cadwell - when is the interview? What is the position? Good luck!

it's august 23, for a position as a transportation planner with ca. dept. of transporation. i applied for this same job in another part of the state a few months ago and i didn't even get an interview. so i am pretty excited about this. this one will be even better because if i get it i will only have to commute an hour or so instead of two to three. yay!
if i can just lose a couple lbs by then those pants i want to wear will be a perfect fit. i tried them on yesterday and they were just a little snug.
i always stress about what to wear to interviews. :lol: maybe i should concentrate on finding out something about transporation issues in san bernardino, which i know zip about, since i have been there like, once or twice :?: .
Tonight is a sit down dinner, just us and the hosts and I won' t have lots of choices. I don't want to say I'm dieting cause then it becomes a topic that can go on all night. Help.
that's the same thing where i ran into trouble with the two desserts. dh and i went to a dinner at the home of someone from our church. we all had puddings for dessert, but the hosts had also bought those drumstick ice cream cones for us too. hopefully there will be salad that you can fill up on so all you need of the bad-for-you-goodies is just a polite nibble.

08-11-2005, 07:25 PM
Cadwell reminded me of something I heard not too long ago...there is a diet strategy where one day a week you can eat absolutely anything you want... Anyway, people were saying they lose and keep it off that way and if they are having cravings they just hold off until their free day, so it helps them stay OP the rest of the time.

:stars: You know, I've been wondering about this idea of a free day for a few weeks. I have always been an "all or nothing" type person. I'm either eating healthy food, staying away from dairy, wheat, chocolate and citrus (all of which I am allergic), most sugars and drinking water OR I am eating a lot of the food that I deprive myself of when I am healthy. This is why I do things like lose and gain 50 pounds on a consistent basis (except my last gain was closer to 85 lbs and I'm now at my highest weight ever).

I don't really think I will ever be able to eat things I desire in moderation. So, this idea of a free day is interesting to me. If I can just eat as much as I want of anything I want for one day a week then perhaps I will be able to maintain my "healthy days" for a longer period of time (hopefully forever). I sometimes think that it's not even the food I'm missing, it's just the feeling of deprivation that's making me feel awful, resentful, and crazy.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of people in the forums post their opinion that a free day is an unhealthy idea that promotes binge eating. I don't know. I'm wondering if you guys have ever tried a free day or know anyone who has.

08-12-2005, 04:02 AM
well i don't know about the benefits of any entirely "free" day. definitely not a binge. that would not be good. but i think it is good to plan on having random days where, in additon to healthy foods you might ordinarily have, you might have a treat (in moderation) that you usually say no to. i have heard that if you consistently deny yourself foods that you really like, then you can get tired of dieting in general and can just abandon your plan, especially if you are temporarily not getting results.
i don't think that this would work for people that eat compulsively, due to trigger foods.

08-12-2005, 08:25 AM
I agree Cadwell, for bingers (like me!) free days would never work. I think it would make it so much harder to get back OP the next day. But, some people could do it and it might work if they have more control.

Uncovering--I don't think all or nothing is the right attitude, but free days might not be best for you either. What plan do you follow? Can you work treats into your program so you don't feel deprived when you really want them? I am counting calories and I have already decided that when I really want something I will have it, but in a portion that I can fit within my calorie limit. It's kind of a portion control thing. Also, finding substitutes for things you love will help get over most cravings without having to eat the exact thing you want. There are lots of healthy sweet things out there if you have a sweet tooth. Try to work it into your plan, so it's really not all or nothing, it's just portion control and keeping within your plan. Any plan that absolutely allows no treats ever will not work in the long run.

LauraB--How did the dinner go? What did you have?

Great job not binging after the fight Mel, that can be SO hard because we all know how hubbies can get the blood boiling at times ;)

Sandi, that way of counting from dinner to dinner is a great idea. Last time I counted calories I ended up never having enough left for a satisfying dinner and would binge at night. So far I haven't had that problem (only done it 2 days though LOL) but in the future I may have to do this way as well.

Jeanne, I don't know when strawberry season ends but they are still selling them in our grocery store. I might try it with frozen ones as well, thaw them out first overnight. And it might work with different fruits, using different flavors of jello. Peach sounds yummy.

Big pat on the back to everyone in the group...WE CAN DO THIS!

As for me, the scale is still sitting still :mad: I have gone kinda scale mad, weighing every morning just hoping it might move down. I'm just hoping by next Wed. it will. There's no reason it shouldn't with the counting calories and exercising. Yesterday I came in just under 1800 calories, the very upper end of my limit and I didn't feel overly full this time. It was a heavy exercise day, so I really needed the calories. I spent 2 hours doing some very hard gardening work, 8 miles on the gazelle, and WATP 1 mile. So, those calories were well used! I use up 500 calories just in 4 miles on gazelle, so a lot of them were burnt up just in exercise. Today might be a less active day, so I will aim my calories more toward 1500.

I was shocked when I went to some of the fast food websites. Some of the products advertised as healthier are not really that healthy! Especially Subway, their new wraps always seemed to me like the healthier option, but really they are lower in carbs...but super high in fat and calories! The turkey wrap made my list with 190 calories, 6 grams fat...but the others were way, way higher than that. I was surprised.

Did you guys know that taco bell has a way of making things healthier? It says on their website that if you order and say "fresco style" then they will substitute any sauces or mayo, etc. for this tomato mixture that has 0 fat. You can put in any of their products on the website and it will show you the new nutrition facts fresco style...and it really makes a difference! I could fit a lot of things into my calories easily if done fresco style. I wonder why this isn't advertised more widely, because I didn't know this.

Okay, off to another day, I'm late getting the youngins up. I don't know how we will ever make it to preK on time LOL


08-12-2005, 11:10 AM
I am not too sure about a free day either. I have those "trigger foods" that I CAN NOT touch or I will lose control..Remember the Lays chips comercial (SP?)where they said I bet you can't eat just one?? well that's me with chips, cookies, breads,donuts etc.... anything starchy made from processed flour and loaded with sugar. I am still going thru withdrawls. I have bought a few packs of the 100 calories snacks because they are portioned correctly and I have had a couple single serve size baked lays .. But I can't keep big bags of cookies and chips in the house - I am finding that if I can work in a treat or two a day I don't feel deprived at all. am depending on FF/SF jello with coolwhip free today for my cravings.. I did good yesterday with my first day of points and today is getting easier.. although it's almost the TOM and i may have to buy some SF/FF chocolate pudding or frozen fudge pops

I made the strawberry pie last night and it was gone in record time.. I had one piece and we added dollops of coolwhip free on there.. I like the idea of peaches ... may have to try tonight! :lol:
we got a bonus coupon from our direct tv and we get free showtime channels so I did get to watch that movie "supersize me".. Kinda scary.. I am going to choose very carefully tomorrow at McDonalds and I told the kids once a month we can go for fast food and ONLY once per month - place of their choice. they were all ok with that ?????? (I am wondering who kidnapped my kids and replaced them with kids who are ok that mom's on a diet and now they are eating better too and not fussing about it?? :lol: ) Of course the school they go to doesn't allow any foods for lunch or snacks that has sugar listed in the first 4 ingredients and that includes High Frutose corn syrup...and no foods with artificial colorings etc..

I tried to ask for the fresco style at taco bell one day and they all looked at me like I was crazy including the Mgr. so maybe that's why they don't publicize it more-because they don't know about I went home copied the stuff off the web site and next time I went to taco bell showed the Mgr.. they were still confused :dizzy: .. I am so glad the closest taco bell is 20 miles away! Burger king is right down the road from work But I don't like BK so I never stop- my biggest stopping place was chick fil a or they have the best biscuits and fries ... the dr. told me to write down what I used to eat in a day and compare it to what I am eating now to see the difference in calories and fat .. I am ashamed to say that the calories I used to eat for breakfast is the same amount I am now eating for breakfast, lunch and 2 snacks and on Binging days it was my calories count for my now whole day eating..

Laura B I hope all went well last night

Mel .. I am so glad you didn't binge.. I got upset with my hubby last night and went was able to do longer on the evil :devil: bike than before...
Everyone have a great day and thanks for all the support..

Have a dr's appt. this afternoon - the nurse has agreed when she weighs me not to let me see the results- they are so great there!

08-12-2005, 11:45 AM
Good morning all
I did good last night at dinner. When we arrived there were large boiled shrimp, and nice cheeses and crackers on the coffee table to eat while we chatted before dinner. I ate 10 shrimp. Dinner was baked chicken, summer squash and mashed potatoes. I pushed a piece of chicken around my plate (thank you Melissa) and ate alot of squash and a piece of bread. Dessert was icecream, a tiny scoop with cooked fruit on top so I was fine. I put my day into when I got home and I was under 1300 calories.
Being part of this group ,made all the difference, cause I knew I would be posting this AM, and I didn't want to say I messed up.
Re a free day. There is a diet book, by Rachel Heller, that says eat zero carbs for breakfast and lunch and eat a healthy supper of anything you want, that must be consumed in one hour and you will lose weight. I ate so much in that hour, I could burst. I do think tho that a planned falling off is good cause you know you will stop and you can always say when you are craving something that you will have it on your falling off.
If anyone wants to get totally turned off to fast food, rent the movie Supersize Me. What you see is so horrible you will never go to Mickey Ds again.

08-12-2005, 01:26 PM
I watched Supersize Me as well and I thought it was a bit overboard because he eats at McD's every meal every single day...and who does that? And made sure to eat everything on the menu at least once...who does that? Yes, eating there a lot will blow you up if you don't make good decisions, so that point was made clear regardless. When I looked at their website to see what I could have I was surprised to see how high in fat these new chicken sandwiches are...even the grilled ones are 500-700 calories and at least 30 g of fat!!! it's the same with Subway and Arby's with their "healthy" wraps...they are mostly 500-800 calories a piece and at least 30-40 g of fat. They advertise the "lo carb" and make it out like they are healthy but they aren't. Okay, enough of that rant lol

Here is what I did put on my list to choose from when I end up at McD's:
Caesar Salad with Grilled Chicken = 220 calories; 6 g fat
Chicken McGrill Sandwich (NO MAYO) = 290 calories; 5 g fat
Side Salad = 15 calories; 0 fat
Apples with Caramel Dip = 100 calories; 1 g fat
Fruit N Yogurt Parfait = 160 calories; 2 g fat
Tangy Honey Mustard Sauce = 70 calories; 2 g fat

And Chic-fil-A, since someon mentioned it (they are hard, very high fat in everything):
Chargrilled Chicken Garden Salad = 180 calories; 6 g fat
Southwest Chargrilled Salad = 240 calories; 8 g fat
Chargrilled Chicken Sandwich = 270 calories; 3.5 g fat
Chargrilled Chicken Cool Wrap = 390 calories; 7 g fat
Fresh Fruit Cup = 60 calories; 0 fat
Side Salad = 60 calories; 3 g fat
Honey Mustard Sauce = 45 calories; 0 fat
BBQ Sauce = 45 calories; 0 fat
FF Honey Mustard Dressing = 60 calories; 0 fat

I did Arby's, Bojangles, KFC, Denny's, Subway, Taco Bell, Wendy's, if anyone is interested in those lists just let me know. Don't want to post all that if no one is interested. I am going to add Burger King, even though we rarely eat there. And Hardees, we eat there occaisonally but might as well go through it and be prepared if it does happen.


08-12-2005, 01:29 PM
LauraB, you did AMAZING at your dinner last night! Make sure you are eating enough though, 1300 is kind of low for told me not to drop below 1500, but that may be because he knows how much I am working out, who knows. Just make sure you are not starving, that's all I worry about.

Sandi, glad you liked the pie...I am going to have to get some strawberries now! Let me know if you try the peach. I was thinking today that rasberry might be good as well. Or maybe blueberries and rasberries mixed with some other flavor jello.


08-12-2005, 02:52 PM
Thanks Purple for the nice words.
I did around 1300 last week and lost 2 pounds so I'm thinking that might be ok.
Right now I am not working out at all. I still have Lyme disease and not ready yet. Maybe next week I can start and then come up in calories a bit.

Ice Princess
08-12-2005, 03:12 PM
Well, Ladies my first work out at Curves was yesterday and I loved it. Was sweatin and you could really feel it working, I love the hydrolics instead of free weights cause you cant lose your form. So I am gonna go every second day for the rest of August then gonna try from Monday to Saturday come September after kids are back to normal school routines. I have decided I'm not going to weight in weekly cause they weigh you and do your measurements monthly at Curves, my monthly weigh in is on the 10th or 11th so I will post my results probably on the 12th of every month. I have already lost 6 pounds in two weeks cutting back on my Pepsi, so I figure if I can stop the Pepsi habbit and exercise I will be all set. ( yes I drink lots a 2lt a day, down now to maybe a can or two) I quit drinking Pepsi about 2 years ago for 3 weeks and lost 15lbs, with out exercise so I figure if I can stop drinking it and WITH exercise I should be able to do farily well. After I lose 25 lbs gonna try and buy a treadmill so I can also walk daily, I have gone for a couple walks now but another 2 month or so the weather will start to get crappy way up here in Northern Ontario, our winter are soemtimes -40'C so I figure a treadmill might be a very good investment. Wish me luck ladies and keep up the great work.

08-12-2005, 03:22 PM
You're on the right path, Ice Princess...this time YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT!!!! :cheer: :cheer: Just keep positive and keep checking with us and we'll all get to our goals...and stay there!

I am going out shopping with hubby and kids tonight and we might end up eating I have my list all printed out and in the purse, ready to be used. I feel I have the power to stick to it and order off my list, even request NO MAYO when necessary. Before, I used to just guess what i thought was healthiest, but now after looking at all the facts I realize I was picking very high fat things! Now I"m armed and ready.


08-12-2005, 04:01 PM
Another night of arguing with DH = another night of wanting to binge like mad. BUT... I was good. Again. How? I really don't know. That TOM is coming up soon (hence all the arguing! :lol: ) and the cravings are bound to show up on the scene any day now. Gah.

Tonight we have a whole bunch of running around to do... pick up our new furniture, go get a few things from Wal-Mart, etc. I'm sure DH will want to eat out. We frequent this awesome family restaurant which offers five or six different lifestyle choices (beside each they list carbs, protien, cals, fat, etc) so you can choose accordingly. I *ALWAYS* choose the chargrilled chicken burger w/ side salad. It's totally tasty... and only has 400cals and 7g of fat for the entire thing!

Tomorrow is date-night. I planned my daily menu earlier on in the week so I feel good about my dinner selection. I'm even low on cals so I will even allow myself a kid-sized low fat ice-cream (in a cup so I'm not eating extra cals from the cone) when we stroll around downtown.

I have 3.5wks to lose 8lbs and although, that seems a little far-fetched, I'm really going to concentrate on staying OP so I can get as close to that as I can. :)


LauraB... WTG last night! That is phenom! Eating out at friend's is difficult, esp. when you don't want to come right out and say "I'm on a diet...", nor do you want to look rude by not eating what they serve. I think you pulled it off flawlessly! :) I'm sure your will-power will pay off on Wednesday! :)

cadwell... I agree, a full day off isn't always a good idea... esp. for bingers. You could spend the entire next week just trying to work off what you ate. Moderation is key.

Sandisuze... I'm glad you and your family enjoyed that strawberry pie! I am so going to have to try it... we have a baptism to attend in a week or so and then the godparents are hosting a luncheon afterward, that would be perfect to take along. :) Good luck @ your Dr. appt! :) I'm sure everything will go well!

Theresa... I've watched "Supersize Me" as well, and sure, it's biased. No one eats like that. But I think the msg is more about the long term affects of eating junk. The more he ate, the more he craved. And that's how it works. I remember when I was a child, fast food of any sort was a treat (and even then, my father would only take us on our weekends with him). Now, it's become a daily occurance for some people. Such a sad state of affairs, really. And, they make it so cheap to be caught in the cycle. No one (hopefully) would eat McDonalds 3x a day, 7 days a wk. But really, it's not healthy for us to eat at ANY time. ;)

Ice Princess... Good job @ Curves! I'm glad you really enjoyed it! Definitely sounds like you have a plan and are dedicated to sticking to it! Congrats! :)

Everyone else... a great big :wave: !

I hope you all have a fantastic day and an even better weekend! Take care of yourselves, stay HAPPY and HEALTHY! Type you later!


08-12-2005, 04:04 PM
Hi guys!
I am such a moron! I didn't know there was a group for us to post here! I thought it had just all moved to emails.

boy I coulda used this over the last week. It's not been a good one on many fronts, hopefully today will start a better week!


08-12-2005, 04:30 PM
Carrie... sorry you had such a rough go this past week! If you need to vent, we're here! :) Take care of yourself!


08-12-2005, 11:14 PM
Just checking in before I hit the sack. Carrie, glad you found us again! Hope no one else is stuck on the email thinking that's all there is.

I'm not going to be around tomorrow, but will try to check in at night. We are going to the farm and have a lot of work to do with the horses. First is taking Tilly to the vet to see if she's pregnant or not. Then it's working with the newest member to the barn...we named him Sundown and he's absolutely gorgous, almost all white with some nicely placed brown. I won't be planning formal exercise, but we will take the horses out on the trail so that is great exercise in itself. Actually, I probably burn more calories riding than I ever will on the gazelle. I want to get Tomahawk out in the field and let him burn through the wind...he is so fast, I just love being on him!

Okay, night everyone. Have a great day tomorrow and I'll check back in when we get home...unless I"m too tired.


08-13-2005, 02:28 AM
theresa.. i love taco bell fresco style. maybe it's from growing up eating san diego-style taco shop food, but i just don't think that cheese belongs in a taco. salsa is where it's at! not that eating gigantic carne asada burritos with guacamole helped me lose weight! i usually stay away from fast food as it leaves me hungrier than before i ate it, but in a pinch, i'll get fresco-style tacos from taco bell or a southwest chicken pita from jack in the box. the pita is great.. only 260 calories, and good flavor too. sandi, if the taco bell people there still don't get it about fresco, you can just ask for salsa instead of any sauce or cheese. that way they don't have to do much thinking :)
scales are pretty dumb. maybe you're losing fat and gaining muscle. at least that's what i tell myself when the scale stays the same, but i think i'm getting trimmer. not that i can stay off the scale. if i had one at home, i would probably weigh myself ten times a day.
carrie, thanks for the congrats on the job. i am keeping my fingers crossed, but i know there will be a lot of competition from all these out-of-work experienced-with master's degrees-planners vying for *my* job! all i have is my college internship :( i hope things start going better for you this week.

08-13-2005, 01:24 PM
I am feeling very down. My grownup son is behaving very badly and I know I can talk to him but I can't force him to make better decisions. I wish he was back to playpen age so I could pick him up, put him in the playpen and not let him out iof my sight and into the real world where I have to worry about what stupid thing will he do next.
so needless to say, what I really want to do is eat until I feel totally full, sweets and salty stuff and lots of bread and butter and I could even eat a whole watermelon. Sounds crazy huh? I managed yesterday. I stayed at 1300 calories, and I don't want to lose my resolve, cause if I do, he will come to his senses one day soon(I hope) and then I will still be fat.

08-13-2005, 11:05 PM
I am so proud of you Laura for keeping for realizing that eating is NOT the answer to this...and that in the end you will be the one hurt by the eating. Try to think of things you can do to relax and take your mind off both your son and the eating. Read a really good book? Write in a journal (you do one online for free at and other places)? Go for a walk? Crank up the music and dance? Lift weights? Play games online ( is my fav place)? Read a magazine? Whatever you like to do, decide when the urge to eat comes that's where you will turn instead. You can do it, just keep positive.

I had a kind of off day today. I was okay up until dinner then had some fish which was breaded and I know high in fat, and I had no way of knowing calories so I'm not sure if I went over or not. I've decided that next hubby wants to go to this fish place I will have my own supper prepared by the time he comes home with it...and I will not eat it!


08-14-2005, 12:35 AM
Thanks Theresa,
It's 11:15 and I got thru the day. I had promised my sister I'd go shoe shopping with her and I did. I can't tell her what's going on in my life cause she is not the person I can tell my troubles to. She loves my son and I don't want her to know how he is messing up. She has enough of her own troubles and right now life is good for her. So I focused on shoes and I wandered thru stores and stayed away from food. Then we got my dh and 3 friends and we went to the Chinese buffet. I had 3 almost burned spare ribs, some salmon, a lot of string beans and boy choy, 3 pieces of vegetable suichi, some chicken and a slice of watermelon and one half a cookie. I tried to tally the calories on the net, it came to 900, so even if I add 500, just to be safe, I'm ok for the day cause that and a peach is all I ate the whole day.
I feel like I got thru the day without screwing up my food plan too much.
Now the night. I need the phone not to ring.

08-14-2005, 11:22 AM
This morning I went back to an old habit of mine--eating fruit smoothies for breakfast. I did this about every morning back when I was vegetarian--and before I had a weight issue. I used to just use 100% fruit juice and frozen fruit, blend into an icey slush. This morning I did it a bit different and liked it even more:

1.5-2 c orange juice (jug of fresh squeezed stuff)
1/2 lb. frozen blueberries
1 c. 99% FF Strawberry yogurt
1 fresh peach (cut into pieces, with skin)

I blended it just enough to mix well, not enough to liquify. Then I turned it on whip a few seconds to kind of thicken it up a bit more. Poured it into a glass and it was heavenly. This was my breakfast while everyone else had eggs with cheese and fried hot dogs....not a healthy breakfast but it's my hubby's favorite. The kids barely touched their plates, but each drank evry drop of their little glasses of fruit smoothie ;) I was happy they chose the fruit over the greasy eggs.

You can use any kind of juice and frozen fruit, or even just fruit juice and ice is good, toss in any fresh fruit you might have. It's fun to experiment because every different combination tastes different. They give me a ton of energy and with the yogurt added was very filling. I counted the calories for everything but the peach, following my own guidelines of what I count and don't count. The amounts above made us almost a full blender pitcher and I had 2 glasses, the kids each had a small glass. I don't actually measure exactly, jus guess and throw it all in there.

Last night I made a recipe for a peanut butter banana smoothie, which I didn't like but the kids sucked right down and asked for more. Anyone wants that recipe, just shout. It says it's a breakfast smoothie, but I would consider it more like a treat or lunch because it is rich.

I am thinking of doing a peanut butter/milk/Ovaltine/ice for a snack one day. Kinda like a Reeses smoothie.


08-14-2005, 04:31 PM
Hello everyone!

I've had a busy few days and had a lot of reading to catch up on here. It's been a pretty good week. We went to the Iowa State Fair on Friday (just for fun this llamas). I did eat fair food but I was pretty happy with the choices I made and don't think I messed up at all really. We left home so early in the morning that I didn't have breakfast and then we were so busy looking around when we got there that I never though about food again until my husband said it was lunch time. I had a grilled chicken sandwich w/no mayo. In the afternoon I had a large fruit cup w/fresh watermelon, cantaloupe, and grapes, and then for supper I had a grilled turkey sandwich w/no mayo and a baked potato w/ just salt & lemon pepper. I have no idea how many calories I had for the day but I didn't feel guilty and I never felt hungry, either. Didn't get in enough veggies for the day but I'm ok w/that for one day.

Laura...sorry your son is causing you so much grief. Be proud of yourself for handling it the right way. We all want the best of everything for our kids but we have to let them make their own mistakes and learn from them. He is grown and on his own now...and his bad decisions are his own and have nothing to do w/ you, so you can't let it get you down. Good for you figuring out that he'll eventually "figure it out" and realizing that you can't let it interfere w/your lifestyle changes. I hope things settle down for you soon.

Theresa...Glad I'm not the only horse person here! We currently only have one that is a well trained trail horse (mare), but we also have and are training a very high strung 2 y/o filly and a very laid back yearling gelding. They are such a joy to me. So relaxing and FUN. We're hoping the filly will be our daughter's FFA event horse when she's in high school in a few years. She loves to run and I think she'll be really good at it. She can be a handful to handle but she has already made it clear that she prefers our daughter over us and is very well behaved for her so she is doing a lot of the training herself. We are planning for the gelding to be another western pleasure/trail horse in the future, and we're hoping to add a couple more horses in the next few years. And you are right...riding is great's a great way to work out some of those lesser used muscles. I can always feel some muscle soreness in my butt and the backs of my legs for a day or so after a long ride so I know it does some good.

cadwell....Job interviews are soooo stressful...but don't worry about you competition too much, I'm sure you will "wow" your interviewers, and if they don't pick you then it's their loss and you will end up with an even better job in the future. They obviously think you are qualified since you got an interview, so masters degree or not, you have as much chance as anybody. Good luck!!

I love smoothies but have never tried to make my own. I will have to dig out the blender and try one. That way I'd know exactly what I was drinking instead of wondering what exactly was in it like I do when I get them at a restaurant. That recipe looks great except I'm not wild about OJ...I might have to pick up the ingredients and try it w/apple juice or grape juice instead.

08-14-2005, 05:20 PM
KayElle, apple juice works just as well, and I have used others in the past. I just make sure it is 100% fruit juice and go with it. Each will give a different flavor to the smoothie, just as using different frozen fruits or just ice and different fresh fruits will give a different flavor as well. I buy a big thing of unsweetened apple juice at walmart for a brand, and it is really good, the kids love it in their sippy cups. My total for this mornings smoothie was just under 500 calories and 2.5 g fat for the entire blender pitcher. If you don't put the yogurt in, you cut that fat out completely. For a quick, fat free snack try just fruit and ice blended comes out like those slushies they sell at the gas station but so much better!

08-14-2005, 08:50 PM
Hi all!

Well it has been a strange weekend.. little bits and I were supposed to go on the day trip to see veggie tales but we ended up saturday at 7:30 at urgent care as her throat had the yuckies (red and tonsils swollen ,) fever... it went quick as we got there right when they opened and were # 2 in line for a dr. they took one look, prescribed an antibiotic and liquids and sent us home. She was so miserable that she didn't even care we missed the trip. Today you'd never even know she was sick.

My dr. has told me my liver is fat.. he said it's from being obese and having that metabolic syndrome and close to type 2 ... :( anyway my liver enzymes were like 800% higher than normal.. so he said I have to cut out certain foods..I freaked for a minute cause when I looked up fatty liver on the net it said it was caused by drinking too much and I don't drink I mean at all... I have a toast on new years But that's it.. hubby and friends said "you ????drink???... :?: then i called the dr. and he said no I have a different kind- But I may need a liver biopsy soon..and the meds he gasve me for one problem is making me so icky.. I spent most of yesterday in bed and alot of today in bed too --just miserable- (he warned me about some side effects for a day or so..) hubby has cooked and cleaned.. what a sweetie

Kayelle..the fair sounded like so much fun and it sounds like you ate well and made good choices..

Laura .. I feel for you- I have gone thru so much with my oldest and I guess I just need to keep letting go.. it's so hard to see them have to struggle

Theresa... I love to take ice and fruit like watermelon, blueberries nad strawberries and whip it up in my smoothie maker- when you use blueberries either put in a dab of splenda or use apple juice the kids love the "fruit ice" as they call it-
we also do mom's version of a milk shake with skim milk and a scoop of FF/SF ice cream or yoghurt a drizzle of chocolate syrup and it's so creamy w/o all the fat and calories and we have been know to add strawberries or bananas too.
so how is everyone else doing?? I have not done well this weekend - I haven't drank my water or exercised But I am so icky feeling .. I haven't eaten much .. today was toast and scrambled eggs.. a few graham crackers and some decafe tea..
:dancer: Take care all and keep :grouphug: up the good work!

08-14-2005, 09:19 PM
Hi all -
Sounds like everyone is doing great staying on track! Great Job! I have been doing well the past few days - except today - I went to a town fair and had fried dough with my nephews. But I'm not beating myself up about it, It's TOM for me, and if that is my only slip up that's great for me!
Keep up the great work everyone!!

08-15-2005, 07:18 AM
well this weekend sucked for my diet. btw, that free day stuff is no good. i am up three pounds and i spent all day saturday walking. i went with dh and his church youth group to knott's berry farm. i went with my friend outside of the park to have lunch because i didn't want unhealthy theme park food.. what did i have instead? fajitas and a margarita :s: and a little ice cream of course. way, way over my calorie goal. today was not much better -- dh and my life philosophy? let no cold stone flavor go untried! 3 macaroons too! mil brought them on friday and i have avoided them until now. at least i was under 1700 calories. but that is still too many according to the scale.
as a positive, i put together a great new low cal sandwich that i am just loving. i wrapped up grilled chicken, tomatoes, romaine, and tzatziki sauce in lavash bread. yum! only 260 calories.
i think this week i am going to plan my food so i can stay at my calorie goal and lay off the ice cream and cookies. what a diet concept!! no ice cream or cookies!! :lol:

08-15-2005, 11:26 AM
Sandi, I am so sorry about your liver. Use that as motivation to keep going and lose the weight before there are even more consequences. You definitely motivated me to keep going. I don't want health problems and I definitely don't want my children to outlive me because I couldn't stop eating!! Don't feel bad about slacking when you don't feel good...let it pass then get back on track. Hope you feel better soon.

TOM is really hard stillTrying, so you did good with just one treat. Try to stay away from the kitchen between meals...make to do lists so you are busy, busy busy and no time to think!

Your wrap sounds very good Cadwell, I might have to try something like that. Start drinking lots of water to help get that food out, it really does help to clean you out and make you feel fresh again. Get right back to it...there will always be days you just can't be right OP.

I have great news today: THE SCALE HAS MOVED!!!! Down to 151 this morning, and that was in my socks and night shirt. If I don't really mess up today or tomorrow I will get to move my ticker FINALLY on Wed. :cb: I'm hoping i can take off just one more by then...and meet my first mini-goal!


08-15-2005, 12:25 PM
:cp: YAY Theresa The scale moved!!!!! :dance:
That is so awesome!!!!

I hope my scale moves too soon.. Although I was told to re-measure myself on WI inches count too
It's almost the TOM for me and I feel all bloated and cranky. :tantrum:
I am back to my water and made a wise choice this a.m. as far as eating goes and By passed the danishes and donuts that we are subjected to when there is a meeting.. I had some fruit and nibbled on that .I was told that so many people have a fatty liver either from drinking to excess or from being overweight and being prone to metabolic syndrome - but most people don't know they have a problem - if you develop it from being overweight or being diabetic there isn't really a cure and it prolly won't develop into something worse, but it can in a small % of people.. They really think a lot of my damage came from taking a medicine for 3 years that I didn't need .. and never had a liver test for which they should have been doing all along.. I am so glad I found a smart doctor who knows his stuff as opposed to the quack I used to see..
I am using this as more motivation :ebike: -- I want to see results not only in my weight dropping but to have better numbers from blood work.

Thanks again for all the support..
Must go buy tzatziki sauce .. :chef: what a great idea YUM! for a wrap !

08-15-2005, 04:35 PM
glad y'all like my wrap idea. i don't think i have been drinking enough water over the past couple days. that's a good suggestion.
sandi, it's great you have a good doctor who understands about livers. any medication can be dangerous when you have a liver problem. my dad had lost 80 percent of his liver function, and his genius doctors put him on sedatives! grrr, morons! it's great that you are thinking positive and using this as motivation instead of getting discouraged . :cheer:

08-15-2005, 05:51 PM
Hi all! We got back yesterday from a week long trip in the mountains--hiking, camping, backpacking, fishing and yes, lazing about. Loved it! No big secret how Colorado ranks as such a fit state; I never had a "real" workout, but I sure felt like I was working it! My diet was *way* off though--lots of sodas and lots of snacking--I'll have to face it at WI. To be honest, the best I can hope for is to maintain, because I really don't think I could've lost anything even with all the hiking etc.

I'll have to read through all the postings to get caught up with everyone! It's so cool that this thread has remained so active. I hope everyone is staying on track!

08-15-2005, 07:09 PM
Welcome back, Melra! Your vacation sounds so FUN! Maybe you will be surprised on the scale, since it sounds you really did a lot of physical activity. If you maintain that is got a nice vacation to relax and have fun and didn't gain anything! If you gain...well, get back OP and knock it off again....and don't look back.

I am having a not so great day, but I am trying to salvage what is left of it. For some reason whenever I step on the scale and see it's going down I want to eat, eat, eat. It's like I sabotage myself or am afraid of suceeding for some reason? I'm not sure what it is, but I need to do some "me time" and figure it out because soon as I am about to progress (and not just with weight) the triggers to eat are just firing like mad. I made strawberry muffins, but in a loaf pan instead of actual muffins. They were LF, but high in calories and I had a few of them, which took like half my calories for the day...and made me sick to my tummy. Lunch was also high in calories, so now I have like 100 calories for dinner to stay under the upper end of my cal. limit. It's okay, I've got my head back on straight and am going to make a salad for dinner with just a little FF dressing mixed with cottage cheese for a dressing...if you havent' tried using cottage cheese and just a drop of dressing mixed, try it! I will be under my limit but am still upset with myself.

I feel like I need to go back to grade school and write I WILL NOT SABOTAGE MYSELF fifty times on the black board lol


08-15-2005, 08:02 PM
I have some strawberry dessert glaze which I bought awhile back when I was making tarts for a party, but ended up not using it. It's FF and 70 cal. per serving...does anyone know what I might use it for that is healthy? I might try to make the tarts again since they are just a fresh fruit mix in the little cups...have to see about how the cups are calorie wise. But, does anyone else have any ideas?

08-15-2005, 10:44 PM
hey all !

I'm sorry Theresa that you are having a bad day.. try to look on the bright side and you didn't eat the whole pan of muffins or decide it all was for nothing and binge... just get back OP and you can do it.. :cheer:

Hey Melra welcome back :wave: You prolly did great with all the hiking ..

I did run to the store after work and grabbed ingredients for Cadwells wrap..
I have NOT been hungry tonight - I only want to drink water.. I still don't feel good from the meds and hope this will all go away soon.. I am still feeling all bloated. I guess there are some miserable side effects to this med and I don't like it. :(
hmmm Strawberry glaze- how about getting an angel food cake and cutting it up in slices and layering the glaze and cake?? add some coolwhip free and it'll prolly be yummy. or you could make a "poke cake" with the angel food cake -take a wooden spoon and poke holes (with the handle) into the angel food cake and pour the glaze in the holes, when you slice it , it'll be all pretty.
or use lowfat pound cake?? HMMM now I may be getting a bit hungry LOL
I will say my sugar has been pretty normal lately- eating right has to be having some good on my body.

I seriously need to exercise tonight but I feel so blah.. well i will go anyway and ride. :ebike:
I checked some "diet " books out of the library today -I guess I am curious about different "plans" and want to see what they are all about. Some may have good tips and others.. well , no offense to any adkins fans but gee.. no fruit or even whole grains at first? :p and fake cauliflower mashed potatoes ??? ok,there is no way I would eat cauliflower and be able to pretend it was a potato.. although South Beach does have some good recipes. lots of nice salads too in that book. I still firmly believe counting calories and making the right food choices and exercising is the ONLY way to keep off the pounds. I don't want to do a "plan"- I am just one of those weird curious people who wonder why things work for some and not for others , and what all the differences are and why all the hype with some-I may be working on WW but it is only being used for counting calories.
ok enough of me hogging the boards
Off to ride for a few anyway..
see ya'll tomrrow ;)

08-16-2005, 02:58 AM
Theresa - ditto on what was said above. Don't be so hard on yourself. At least your acknowlegding what is happening and thinking about why you may be doing it.

I'm okay today. I'm not really working on losing weight right now, just trying to eat healthy, not binge, and be kind to myself. It's really hard for me when I start dieting to actually live my life... my whole life becomes my diet. So, I think I'm just going to try to work everything slowly into my routine. Sounds like a good idea, I think. Or is it denial? :^:

Hope everyone is having a good night!

08-16-2005, 08:50 AM
Thanks for the much needed cheer, Sandi!

Uncovering, I think you are doing the right thing by making healthy lifestyle changes in your life instead of just going on another diet. A diet should never be your entire'll always fail that way because at some point real life has to go on. It should be a part of your life, but not all of it. Making permanant lifestyle changes will help you in the long run. Do what is right for you and it will all work out. And of course, we're here for you.

WHERE IS EVERYONE ELSE???? Come on guys, let's not tire out now! We've all done so well, let's keep together!

Today is a new day, yesterday is gone, and I am just moving forward.


08-16-2005, 12:43 PM
The last few days have been pretty miserable , dealing with my misbehaving son. His wife is staying at her mother's. I stayed over his house last night, after my son, my dh, my new daughter in law and her parents tried to work out some of the issues in this 4 week old marriage. Of course the same issues were there before the gigantic wedding, but they thought marriage makes things better. Ha. We came to some peaceful terms and a plan to get help, but I am not totally confident that it will all work out. They both know how to make the other one nuts and they both do their numbers, but I'm pretty sure they love each other, but she won't come home till she feels he willbehave better towards her, so we'll see. I feel like I'm in a soap opera.
So-re food, I had one really bad moment where I grabbed 2 slices of bread and butter and some nuts. But that was all. I haven't however been able to plan ahead for the last 5 days because of so much disruption. I don't know if I stayed within my calorie goals and I'm too exhausted to try I figure it out. Added to everything else, I had to report for jury duty yesterday, but luckily at the end, they pulled numbers to get 23 jurers from the 40 people who were there and Iwasn't picked. They can't call me again for 6 years.
This is a selfish post. I'm not responding to any of my fellow chick's needs. I'll come back later. I really missed being here.

08-16-2005, 12:45 PM
cadwell~ i had to stop reading your post when I got to fajitas and margaritas....mmm, margaritas! I think I might try to make a LF fajita dinner tonight..maybe put it on a salad instead of tortillas and rice? With all these tomatoes floating around now, I should put them to use in a salsa!

sandi~ i'm so sorry to read your health news. i hope those side effects from your meds start to fade off soon. i hear you on the diet "research"--i'm amazed at the vastness of diet information, at how much money the industry generates yet nothing seems to work...nothing except real work, that is. I really like reading through diet cookbooks, though.

uncovering~ I agree with Theresa on choosing a lifestyle over a diet. As much as I pay attention (obsess?) to weight, I think my truer goals are more fitness related--what I can do without getting winded, what kinds of activities can I be comfortable with...I just can't get excited about trying to stay on a "diet" if I can never have another margarita! But I think too that we are in the process of re-educating ourselves on what really is good for our body and what true portion sizes are. Especially if binge eating (or even being nervous that you might binge eat<--totally me) has been a problem, just working on that aspect can make a huge difference. What I consider a binge now is nothing compared to what I was doing to myself before. Every day is progress--or at least a chance for progress! You'll get there!

And Theresa: I'M RiGhT HeRe! :lol:

08-16-2005, 12:53 PM
Hey laurab--big hugs to you. I'm sorry you have to deal with such drama right now...I hope those two figure out what they want and what they need to do to get it. If you need help with the meal planning, I've got a three week menu with shopping list and all I could e-mail you as an attachment. It might need some modifications for your specific plan, but I've used it a lot when I'm too busy or not creative enough to plan meals on my own.

08-16-2005, 01:14 PM
Hi everyone!

I have also been wondering where everyone else has been. Seems like it's been quiet the past few days, but I know everybody is busy w/school starting back up and all the extra stuff that goes along w/that.

I went back to work Thursday and yesterday but now I think I'm done until I go back to my regular hours next Tuesday. I love having summers off but I'm always happy to get back to work in the fall, and I do miss having a paycheck in ths summer! So I have a few more days off and then back to the State Fair and then back to work.

I've been doing good staying on track w/food and exercise. Yesterday I had a hard time getting all my calories in because I don't really eat much when I'm working, and then I came home and had a plate of fresh watermelon and pineapple and wasn't very hungry for supper. My calorie total ended up under 1000 and that was even with counting ALL my fruits and vegetables which I don't usually add in.

Sandisuze...sorry to hear about your health problem and sorry that the meds are making you feel so yucky. Hang in can do this even with the extra hurdles! It is so great that you are making the lifestyle changes necessary to get healthy. I hope that you are adjusting to your meds and starting to feel better. I'm glad you have a good doctor that you trust.

Kristen good attitude about the fried dough. It's not so bad to have a slip-up if you can put it behind and move on without letting it turn in to a binge.

Cadwell the free day doesn't work for me, either. I can have a planned splurge on something that I've been craving but a whole free day makes me feel yucky and it's so hard to get back with it afterwards.

Congrats on the loss Theresa! Don't beat yourself up about having a bad day. I know what you mean about sabotaging yourself, but at least you recognize it and can do something about it. I have a hard time with that as well. I haven't seen most of the people at work for almost 3 months, and now when they see me they are all making a big deal out of my weight loss. The funny thing is, I would feel bad if they didn't notice and say something, but on the other hand all the attention makes me wish I could hide in my former self. I know it doesn't show here but in RL I am extremely shy and prefer not to draw attention to myself at all. I think some of my weight problems stem from that shyness so I'm really making an effort to work on that and trying not to be embarrassed when somebody compliments me.

Welcome back, Melra! It's great that you got so much exercise on vacation. And even if you didn't lose's still an accomplishment to stay the same or only gain a little when you go on vacation for a week! I was thrilled just to maintain when we spent a week in Colorado in early July.

uncovering that is the best thing you can do for yourself. Find a healthy lifestyle that you can live with and stick to it. You don't have to stress about it or go on an actual diet to lose weight and get healthy. Just slowly make healthy changes and you will see results.

Laura it sounds like you really have a lot going on right now. You are doing great to stick w/your eating plan at all through all of this. That is awesome and you should be proud of yourself for stopping after the bread and nuts. I do hope they can get things worked out soon. I can't even imagine the stress.

Well sorry for the long post! Hope everybody is having a happy and healthy Tuesday!!

08-16-2005, 01:18 PM
MELRA--I see you! I see you! :lol: Glad to have ya back around.

Laura--do not feel bad if you aren't in that mood to respond to everyone. We will all have our selfish days and venting is necessary on those days. It amazes me how people go through with a wedding thinking all their problems will magically go away after "I do." For a lot of women, they just want that big wedding and they don't think about anything what comes afterwards! They will figure it out or get an anullment (or divorce, whatever the laws are in your state). If they do stick together they should both grow up with time. Give 'em a child or two LOL that's what made me grow up REAL fast.

I am doing excellent today, back on the ball after yesterday's fiasco. I have decided just not to weigh myself until Wednesday, so i can't go off on that "now I lost and I have to eat to undo that" tangent. I never weigh after I have eaten something, so I will make a point of eating something right when I get up lol no, it won't be that hard for me. I just need to focus on the plan during the week and worry about weight only Wed. morning.


08-16-2005, 01:26 PM
KayElle, I am SO like you with the shyness. It's horrible, but when I meet new people in the real world I can't think of a single thing to say. My mind just goes blank, I just am like in a knot inside. I hate for any attention to be on me at all or I get so embarrassed and nervous! Even when I get a story published, I only tell my husband and mom and don't want them to tell anyone else. My mom tells the rest of the family and they call and I just am not comfortable with that attention. I get all quiet and start playing it down like it's no big deal at all...when I've been giggling and dancing all day over it. With the weight, I don't want to be looked at so it's easier to make myself ugly. Thankfully, my hubby likes me just as I am...though I know he will be happy as I shrink down as well. Glad to know i"m not the only painfully shy person in the world. I'd much rather sit in a corner than have people look at me.


08-16-2005, 01:26 PM
Glad to know you are feeling better Theresa! Just put it behind you and keep on going..
Uncovering- so doing the right thing! when I think geee I am on a diet I panic and want to binge.. When I stop and say to myself ,no you are eating healthy to : help heal your body from liver disease, diabetes, heart disease I feel A LOT better about it all.
cadwell: Loved the wrap for lunch- hubby even took one today
LauraB - I hope all will get better.. You are not selfish Just stressed. sending lotsa hugs your way too .
Hi To everyone else...
I don't even tell people I am on a diet- when someone says why all the water, I say things like the dr. said it would be good for my _______ (insert word) that way I don't get any unwanted advice, or make others feel weird. OR hurt feelings..

I said I'd never be able to give up diet soda and teas and's been almost a month w/o soda, and all of the above and I have done good so far.. 1 week till weigh in..I told my hubby i wanted drum rolls please LOL
got to get a scale this weekend though- hubby was hiding ours for me, dropped it and broke it.. that's one way not to be able to weigh in LOL

Must exercise though.. I have been slacking on that and need to get BUSY
feeling much better today and getting in good foods and LOTS of water..
Tonight will be rough as I am making spinach stuffed shells for family and friends, and yes, serving garlic bread. I will chew gum during prep time and will NOT eat the bread. I am making a big salad with lots of chunky veggies and sneaking Skim ricotta in the shells and the spinach will help too- more spinach - less cheese ..
My one boss came in with a double order of biscuits and gravy this a.m. and he's, "come on have some .. sure you don't want some???, I'll give you half " I told him to STOP tempting me or I would put his project on the back burner and although it smelled SO good I knew I'd have to account for it somewhere.. (here! LOL and feeling UGH after eating it) after looking up calories and fat:with the eggs it would have been: 710 calories, 46 grams of fat ARRGH! I though how can someone eat that???
Glad to see everyone around ! :grouphug: :balloons:

08-16-2005, 01:39 PM
Agood thing to do with shell stuffing is to mix spinach, eggs lf ricotta and some grated cheese and some onion and bake it in a pie plate at 375 and you have stuffed shells without the shells. Lots of spinach and work out whatever fits into your calories for cheese. It's reallly good.