Veggie Challenged - Teenager Vegetarian at home! Help!!




dona
07-27-2005, 07:29 PM
My daughter (15) decided to become a vegetarian a few months ago.. She is still eating dairy. How can you be a vegetarian if you don't like vegetables! She will eat broccolli.. and the generics.. (peas, corn, green beans) other wise she is living off of cheese pizza, macaroni and cheese, quesidillas, Macaroni and cheese, cereal and PB&J's! Help!! She has gained probably around 15 pounds in the last 3 or 4 months and is eating nothing but carbs.. any good ideas for a fussy teen that doesn't include "anything with a face or a mother" and will help me to get some nutrients into this child??


haleys
07-27-2005, 08:12 PM
Fake meat! It isn't cheap, but it's how she can get a lot of protein (not just from cheese). My favorite brand is Morningstar Farms, they have grillers (like hamburgers), corn dogs, sausage links, sausage patties, hot dogs, chicken nuggets, buffalo wings and all of it is delicious! Also, you might want to look into some tofu recipes--they have TONS online, maybe pull some up and ask her if any of them sound good. Beans are also a good protein, I especially like Busch's vegetarian baked beans. You can also make tofu salad (like egg salad but eggless--recipes are also online for this).

Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, ask away, I've been a vegetarian since I was born and know how hard it is to just turn to the carbs because it's easy.

Ilene
07-27-2005, 09:14 PM
:rolleyes: Oh boy, do I know of what you speak! My DD is 15 also and I just went through that phase after she made a project on animal slaughter houses .... It didn't last because 99.9% of her friends eat at burger joints and she hated to be left out. But when she was serious, for about 2 weeks :lol: , I experimented with tofu. I like tofu and so does DH -- he'll eat anything as long as he doesn't have to make it :lol: -- I made a really nice tofu recipe that tasted like lasagna if I find it I will post it...

I made a vegetarian chili with the fake ground meat that haley was talking about. Very easy to make all I did was saute some vegetables onions, green and red peppers, take some plain tomatoe sauce, kidney beans, can of corn too was good, throw in that ground fake meat with some chili powder. Add that with some nice brown rice and a salad, perfectly healthy meal.

I make myself a protein drink with whey powder, soy milk and frozen strawberries after each workouts and that's very vegetarian. And super delicious too....

When my DD decided to become vegetarian I sat with her and explained that being vegetarian didn't just mean cutting out animal meats, it meant a 'healthy lifestyle'... My DD knows I'm a bit of a health freak -- that's what she calls me anyways, because I don't eat at fast foods and ask for dressing on the side and eat veggies and fruits regularly -- anyways I digress .... I felt that she needed to know that it's not just cheese pizza and mac and cheese because that's what she was getting into also. I sat with her and explained that we need protein, carbs and fats and that we need an healthy amount of each to stay healthy....Too much of any of these nutrients is not good. In the end she just found it too difficult to incorporate into her lifestyle of the moment but I can see her doing that in the future.

It sure isn't easy though it takes a LOT of planning. Maybe you can get her to help you with the planning of her vegetarian meals...


cadwell125
07-28-2005, 08:17 AM
if you can get her off of dairy, that may put an end to the rapid weight gain. other than tofu, veggie burgers/crumbles/fake bacon, etc., and broccoli, i'm not sure what she could eat, but along with fruit, that's not an unhealthy diet, just boring. you can get some ideas for vegan foods at the peta web site (i'm no activist, but they do push veganism, so they have all the foods listed). also, peta could convince your daughter how dairy production is just as cruel to cows as killing them for meat. that would probably put an end to the cheese pizza. a good friend of mine is an animal rights activist, so she is always telling me about this stuff, like how my clam chowder has mommies and daddies. another good thing would be plenty of vitamins and meal replacement shakes with plenty of protein. good luck to you!

mauvaisroux
07-28-2005, 09:46 AM
Hi Dona! This thread from the veggiechicks may help you out with some general information, cook book suggestions and recipes. Two areas that may be of interest under the recipe section are the Family Friendly recipe thread and the Cooking for One thread.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=121

dona
07-28-2005, 02:33 PM
Great ideas ladies.. Thank you so much! I will be copying this out along with some of the recipes and having a heart to heart vegetarian health chat with my DD.. We don't have the Un-meat products where we live but we are heading to the coast this weekend so we can stock up.. Actually some of the non-beef options I think might be good for our whole family as my DH has high blood pressure and high cholestoral..

Ilene.. mine tried being vegan lasted one week.. she has actually been true to the vegetarian lifestyle though for almost 3 months now.. I thought it was a phase but if she is going to stick with it I'll support it.
Thank you again ladies, very much!

mauvaisroux
07-28-2005, 10:27 PM
Glad we could help! :D

Genesis
08-16-2005, 05:07 PM
Dona,

I am 31 and have been a lacto ovo vegetarian since I was 14. I'm the only vegetarian in my family and my mom really resisted at first (cooking my fav meat dishes every night, etc.) but then realized that it was not a phase. She started experimenting with cooking and I think it benefited the entire family, health wise.

Typically, ethnic cuisines are waaaayyy more vegi friendly and exciting to cook and eat. Standard "American" fare is meaty, fatty and generally not healthy. For example, rice (preferably brown) and beans eaten together make a complete protein. What can you do with rice and beans? Think Mexican, East Indian, Creole, etc. There are LOTS of possiblities. You can even go Italian with a short grain risotto rice (arborio rice) slow cooked with veg broth, veggies and cannelli beans. YUM!

Even if your daughter goes back to meat, that does not mean you cannot continue cooking vegetarian meals for your family. Good luck!

SkinnySquirrel
09-23-2005, 07:45 PM
Like Genesis, I've been a veggie for a long time - I'm 25 and havn't eaten meat since I was 13. I too wasn't much of a veggie-lover when I started either, sounds like your daughter!

My favorites then were:
--broccoli and carrots roasted w/ olive oil and herbs
--beans and rice or steamed veggies and rice
--veggie burgers
--homemade stirfry - I'd even take a bag of mixed veggies, you know with lima beans, etc, and strifry with that!
--ff yogurts
--fruit - my mom always had an assortment of fruits, including tropical fruits for snacks
--Make sure she's getting a multivitamin too

Nowadays I pretty much live on the fake meat (veggie burgers, soy "chicken" breasts), ff yogurt, and I actually love veggies, especially raw or grilled with some herbs!

xalliciax
09-24-2005, 10:56 AM
vegweb.com has TONS of recipes - I get so many of my recipes from there.

I've been a vegetarian since I was 14 (now 19), and I definately used to eat like that when I first started. Recently though, within the past year or so, I've been getting way more into veganism. I've been getting more into stirfrys and brown rice, black beans and rice (when I have hot sauce around, which hasn't been for awhile for some reason!), PB and banana sandwiches, oatmeal, pot pies, lasagna (no cheese at all), and good stuff like that. Try to help her realize that cheese shouldn't be the main staple of her diet. It's not healthy for anyone. If she doesnt like tofu, try draining it, freezing it, then thawing it. It gives it a better texture, IMO.

As a side note, even if you think that this is "just a phase", don't tell it to her. My dad is FINALLY realizing that this isn't just a phase for me. It's been really obnoxious these past five years explaining to him that I'm simply not going to eat meat again. Hah.

superchar42
09-27-2005, 01:37 AM
Something I started doing was tacos-- cook the meat separate and it's easy to make a veggie/omni meal like that.
Speghetti was cool too- soy crumbles instead of meat.
I gained weight when I first went veggie (and then more when I went vegan, so I'm back to veggie) and it might have been because of the junk food I started to eat. So make sure she watches that.
For veggies- try stir frys with cashews over rice- so good! Teriyaki is nice and vegetarian, I never tire of it. Garden burgers work good in a pinch. I'm also a big fan of veggiewursts (vegetarian bratwursts) they're awesome.

It's hard at first to take the plunge, but once she's been at it (if she likes it) then it gets easier and easier!

tampagirlcmb
09-27-2005, 01:24 PM
My suggestions are "hiding" vegetables in foods or finding ways you mask other veggies. Stuffed shells with veggies and ricotta...veggie fajitas with ff sour cream and cheese. Cottage cheese, spaghetti sauce with grated carrots or zucchini in it or cheese pizza with grated vegetables hidden in the sauce. use whole wheat crust...good luck

Mina
12-17-2005, 01:21 PM
Yes... the vegweb.com is a good resource.

Also, if she insists on eating such an unbalanced diet, maybe take her to a nutritionali consultant and have a well-balanced diet shown to her. It's perfectly possible to be vegetarian and be very healthy, but it sounds like she needs to broaden her horizons in the veggie department.

Firmgirl
12-19-2005, 10:10 PM
Here is a site that has tons of recepies so you might can get some ideas from there. vegfamily.com

AquaWarlock
01-10-2006, 04:08 PM
eggplants and mushrooms are also pretty "meaty" veggies and can be adapted into meat recipes -- my fave is a grilled portobello-spinach sandwich with a dash of balsamic & slice of jarlsberg (or pepperjack) cheese.

Tree nuts may also be some thing to consider--they have lots of healthy fats and are pretty filling (just be sure to get the light/no salt varieties)

shananigans
01-10-2006, 04:43 PM
I see much of myself and my past in these posts! I went lacto-ovo veggie at 14 (I’m now just shy of 26) and my grandma still “forgets” that I’m in this “ridiculous no meat phase” and tries to feed me some type of pork product every time I visit (gross!).

dona, I commend you for being receptive to your daughter’s decision and at the same time being concerned about her health! I got no such support and was on the solid carb and cheese vegetarian diet through most of my young adulthood as a result.

I never used to be all that into veggies, but now they make up the bulk of what I throw in my shopping cart. I would suggest lots of experimentation, both in type and preparation, with all kinds of veggies. I think your daughter will find some healthy things she likes. Lately I’m on a homemade soup kick, minestrone, miso, barley mushroom. I just buy the veggie stock in cartons or use canned tomato base, throw in your beans/veggies/etc. simmer and voila! Soup!

Mellowchick
01-25-2006, 03:45 PM
What is the fake meat I keep reading about. I'm new to the website I found it when looking for ideas on losing more weight as of today I have lost a total of 134 pounds. Was just curious. Thanks

Loreebee
02-05-2006, 09:19 AM
Tell her cheese has rennet, which is made from calf stomachs, LOL!! (It IS true).

Seriously, though. Obviously she is not doing it right. She MUST add fruits and vegetables. Try the meat substitutes, they really are good! Try different veggies until she finds one she likes.

AquaWarlock
02-06-2006, 06:03 PM
What is the fake meat I keep reading about. I'm new to the website I found it when looking for ideas on losing more weight as of today I have lost a total of 134 pounds. Was just curious. Thanks

There are a variety of fake meats available--from GardenBurgers and BocaBurgers to Tofurky to Quorn (which, counter-intuitively, is not made from corn but a fungus). While fake-meats are comparatively healthier than their "real" variants, they are not always healthy across the board (e.g. fake chicken nuggets that are breaded, fake meatloaves bathing in a rich gravy, etc.) - but a lot of them tastes practically like meat (one that totally threw me off was morningstar farm's buffalo "chicken")

Likewise, there are lots of fake dairy product which tastes pretty good... Amy's Kitchen Mac 'n Soy Cheeze stands out in particular for me (I wrote a review on it at 3FC)

Heva2015
03-17-2006, 07:50 PM
I want to live in the US so much!!! It sounds like you have so much nicer soy based stuff, everything here has milk or milk protein imaginatively hidden somewhere in it!!! Even crisps (chips)!!!

sweetvanillagirl911
03-18-2006, 06:19 PM
Hey!
Im A Fellow Vegetarian
I'm 16 and i've been a vegetarian for 2 1/2 years. The 1st year I was, i weighed in at about 160 Pounds. I ONLY at Cheese and Things of that sort (like your daughter). I gained 12 Pounds in 3 months! I started exersising and i TRYED to eat veggys and fruit. I found LOTS of fruit and some veggys that i liked. Being a vegetarian consists of a few things. You must be willing to try new things, if your not then your looking at gaining 40 pounds because cheese IS fattning. There are Meat Alternatives such as brands like "Boco" and " MorningStar Farms" they sell a varity of "Burgers" " Pepperoni and meat pizzas" and "Sausages". I've lost a total of 30 Pounds being a Vegetarian. Plus I Only Exersise when I WANT to. Yay. No More Dead Animals.

Meghan

gggbdomino
03-19-2006, 01:43 PM
hello,
Being a resent convert into the world of vegetarianisum :carrot: let me tell you about this wonderful web site I found its fatfreevegan.com it has a lot of recipes, kid friendly recipes sloppy joes and the like all low in fat and 100% vegetarian. also the vegetarian resorse group has a wonderful web site and book. Good luck to you and your daughter. I can't tell what it will mean to her in the future to know you suported her with this.

G

lulu777
03-21-2006, 08:15 AM
You must be so proud of her! I made the same decision when I was sixteen, and here I am, at the age of 45, still a vegetarian. In my case I didn't know any other vegetarians, but I was eviscerating a chicken for the family dinner and decided right then I would *never* eat chicken again. By the next morning, after thinking about it all night, I was a vegetarian and have not eaten meat or even meat broth for almost thirty years.

I just really want to congratulate you and your daughter.

Tampaquillowner
03-27-2006, 07:46 PM
Well at the age of 10 I gave up red meat and pork. I recently this year gaveup all meat and became a vegetarian. The thing I would reccommend most is getting her to read read read! I have a pretty good grasp on everything but with every new book I read something new pops out. There is a book I checked out of the library written especially for teens going veggie. I think its called the teen's guide to being a vegetarian or something. She needs to read about this so she knows exactly why and how she is making this change. Knowledge is power!
I would just go to your library's website and search the catalogue for the book. Or head to amazon and type in vegetarian, and teenager. Maybe some things will pop up.

It might be easier for her to read about it than to have you telling her what she needs to do.

My faves are smartlife Smart Ground mixed with a can of black beans and a packet of vegetarian taco seasoning. Wrap it up in a whole wheat tortilla and its great.
I also make veggie chili with tomato sauce, tomatos, onions, peppers, and beans.
I also make little pita pizzas. Take a whole wheat pita and split it in half. Then put some organic pizza sauce, and maybe a little cheese or whatever toppings and broil for a few minutes.

I also like to stirfry with Cascadian Farms Japanese style stir fry veggies (frozen) and Quorn tenders (they look and taste just like chicken) with some Tamari. Thats a fave.

Also maybe she can do some research on the internet.
There are things she needs to watch out for ( or whoever does the shopping). Things like gelatin (made with horse hooves) are found in a lot of things, even most gums! Also rennet, she should look for rennet free cheese's. Cabot makes rennet free cheese. Casein although I cannot remember exactly what that is. She can find a list of things to avoid in a book. Also Worstershire sauce often contains anchovies.

Okay well sorry for the rambling hope this helps somewhat! Good luck to your daughter!

Actually some of the non-beef options I think might be good for our whole family as my DH has high blood pressure and high cholestoral..

It sounds like DH may benefit from going vegetarian. Maybe he should talk with your daughter (-:
I am trying to convince my mom to drop meat, as she has high blood pressure and heart disease runs in her family. She so far refuses. But veggies, whole grains, legumes, and fruit do not contain cholesterol or saturated fats.

shananigans
03-28-2006, 03:45 PM
Also maybe she can do some research on the internet.
There are things she needs to watch out for ( or whoever does the shopping). Things like gelatin (made with horse hooves) are found in a lot of things, even most gums! Also rennet, she should look for rennet free cheese's. Cabot makes rennet free cheese. Casein although I cannot remember exactly what that is. She can find a list of things to avoid in a book. Also Worstershire sauce often contains anchovies.


I second the research, going veggie in a furthest-thing-from-veggie environment I didnít really figure out the hidden animal products till much later in college. I believe casein is a red food dye made from beetles. Caesar dressing often has anchovies.

Tampaquillowner, just out of curiosity, what made you decide to only cut certain animal products to begin with and how long was it before you decided to cut them all out?

Tampaquillowner
03-28-2006, 07:13 PM
Tampaquillowner, just out of curiosity, what made you decide to only cut certain animal products to begin with and how long was it before you decided to cut them all out?

Thats a good question.

I havent eaten red meat since I was 10. That was when I found out that my family sent the cows we kept to slaughter for our meat. I had a pet cow I loved to death and it made me sick to think I was eating her relatives. My brother raised a pig for 4H and I never really liked the taste of meat anyway so I decided to cut out red meat and pork.

Last year I decided to become vegetarian and cut out chicken because I had been using fake meat products for so long I felt like I didnt need the meat anymore. I rarely ate it anyway. But when I started the SBD in Jan I began to eat meat again out of fear that I wouldnt have enough choices in Phase 1 to be able to stick with it. After the 2 weeks were up and I realized I really didnt need the meat I quit eating it again. Im sorry that I ever thought I needed it.

So ive been back on the wagon for a couple of months and have been reading everything I can get my hands on. Which isnt much because the library doesnt have a great selection. I have read Hopes Edge: The next diet for a small planet, Mad Cowboy, Vegetarian beginers guide from vegetarian times, and I want to go pick up some more soon.

So really I guess nothing specific made me decide to give up chicken. I am active in Animal Rescue and I think that made a difference.

I have so far cut out eggs and milk, and yogurt. I am working on cheese and I think it will take me awhile before I can give it up. I eventually want to go vegan but I am going to take it slow.

Mummy_Tummy
03-29-2006, 05:38 AM
Oh wow, I've bene planning to post about this very same situation for a week now and here someone (several someones) are experiencing exactly the same thing! I love this site!:D

My daughter is 14 and after watching a film about slaughterhouses at school, decided to go vegetarian. She has experimented with it in the past but never stuck to it. This time, she seems very committed. I applaud her for her dedication but I worry about her health. Thanks for all the great ideas and websites. They should come in handy. I've already decided to put her on a multivitamin. I will say that her face has cleared up nicely since she has stopped eating meat.

I've done alot of research for her so that I can be as supportive as possible. I've actually been cooking vegatarian meals for dinner at least three times a week for all of us and trying make sure that if I don't, it can be easily adapted for her. Luckily, she likes baked beans and will eat those but her veggie intake is limited to broccoli, carrots and...broccoli, basically.:dizzy: I love the soya textured protein and have discovered that if I disguise alot of fresh veggies in, say, a vegetarian chili or lasagna, she'll eat it. She also loves the Quorn "chicken" nuggets and "chicken" pieces. They taste just like chicken, hehe. I have yet to find a vegetarian lunch "meat", though, for sandwhiches. Maybe I just need to go to another store for more variety. We're gonna try the veggie sausages later this week.

Someone else mentioned peanut butter and banana sandwhiches. That's funny. That's my DD's favorite food!

Tampaquillowner
04-02-2006, 02:36 PM
Luckily, she likes baked beans and will eat those but her veggie intake is limited to broccoli, carrots and...broccoli, basically. I love the soya textured protein and have discovered that if I disguise alot of fresh veggies in, say, a vegetarian chili or lasagna, she'll eat it. She also loves the Quorn "chicken" nuggets and "chicken" pieces. They taste just like chicken, hehe. I have yet to find a vegetarian lunch "meat", though, for sandwhiches. Maybe I just need to go to another store for more variety. We're gonna try the veggie sausages later this week.

She needs to be careful with things in a can. They like to disguise animal fat, broth, or other things in stuff like that. Make sure you are getting the vegetarian baked beans or they probably have some sort of meat in them. I would reccommend getting your daughter to read the books as well. Explain to her that if she really wants to commit to this lifestyle then she needs to learn as much as possible about it. And the only way she can do so is to read books or utilize the internet. Ive found a lot of good books about vegetarian diets. There are even books about how to raise your kids vegetarian which might help you out.
I just finished reading a vegetarian beginers guide and it mentioned that many teenagers are now becoming vegetarians.
I would worry about her health at all. Just think of all the saturated fats and cholesterol that she is losing from her diet. She can get everything she needs from a vegetarian diet (that still includes milk and eggs correct). If she decides to cut out eggs and dairy it gets a bit harder. But there is lots of information about that lifestyle.

poisonivy18
04-15-2006, 08:59 PM
WOOW its seem all those who turn 16 just like a miracle decide to be vegans
same here , i just turned 16 and decided to become a vegan
as im new to this i would like to know what do vegans actually eat
i know that they dont eat all meat chicken fish etc
but cheese im not sure of that coz its animal stuff u know and u should a vegan eat cheese if hes a vegan PLS help me here im CONFUSED :)

mauvaisroux
04-15-2006, 11:40 PM
Hi Sarah! :wave:

We have a vegetarian and vegan forum here if you want to find out more about becoming one - nice people there with lots of info if you want to ask questions. :)

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=121

poisonivy18
04-16-2006, 04:41 AM
thnks

Tampaquillowner
04-18-2006, 07:19 PM
Sarah,
I would strongly reccommend reading some books about Veganism before you get too committed to doing it. I am a Lacto Vegetarian with a plan to someday become vegan. But its very difficult to just jump right into Veganism without knowing anything about it.

Vegans do not consume any animal products or byproducts such as eggs, dairy, or even honey. They also dont wear any animal byproducts like silk, wool, leather. I am all for Veganism and plan one day to take that plunge but you should really do your research so you know what you are getting into.

Check Amazon.com and you can order used books for fairly cheap. Just do a search with the word Vegan.