WW Clubs and Groups - Wednesday What-Not General Chatter




MaggieShines
07-27-2005, 07:22 AM
Have a wonderful Wednesday, ladies!

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MistySeptember
07-27-2005, 08:31 AM
Wonderful Wednesday? Hmmmm....LOL I am grumpy can you tell? To spare you guys from all the details I'll sum it up. My husband is a poopy head who wants to go to see a concert Friday night while I stay home with the kids, delay my trip to see my Gramma until late Saturday so he can fly even though he knows she has to work at 1 and it's a two hour drive for me, and got mad when my computer broke this morning and I expected him to fix it since he helped his grandfather with his until 10:30 last night! :mad: Stupid jerk!

Anyway, it's raining here today and finally cooler. I worked on cleaning out my junk for about an hour yesterday and after I get through my list of regular daily cleaning stuff I will try to get in another hour today, pending child cooperartion. That should count as AP, lifting and hauling. Plus, anytime I fill a box or bag of garbage or thrift store donations I take it down stairs, so it's lot sof up and down on the stairs. I have so much stuff. I still Like alot of it but not sure what to do with it. I am just going to get rid of it I guess. My gramma wants a bunch of stuff she gave me back since I don't want it. My uncle who lives iwth her is going to freak out when I bring a truckload of stuff BACK :lol: I should have a yard sale but I am too lazy LOL.

Well I feel better now that I've connected with you guys. I'm off to clean. You'd think with as much time as I spend cleaning my house might be clean :rofl: yeah right. Byes for now:)
~misty

Kitty53
07-27-2005, 10:04 AM
Hi Sistas,

Misty, I think men have the poopy head gene. It is universal. heh. Hope it works out for you...

I lost 2 lbs this week..WooHoo.

At least the heat wave has broke here & it's a lot cooler. Having some rain off & on today. Not much going on here, I haven't even turned the TV on yet today. Maybe I'll see what's up with Dr. Phil.

Everyone have a great day. ;)


iowasteph2
07-27-2005, 10:10 AM
I'm strongly thinking about not returning to the WW meetings. I love them, love my leader, love just getting together with a bunch of people all with a similar goal, but I don't want to shell out the cash.

My meetings are on Mondays, so I have a while to decide. Someone told me before that I should stick through it until I get the 12 weeks of information. Should I?

I just keep thinking that I'm spending $11/week on something that I could be doing on my own. I'm so confused about it though. I see my husband spending money on stuff that we don't need, and I try to skimp and save. Also, this is the only thing that I do on my own. Otherwise, I sit at home every night of the week.

Misty, I'm a bit irked at my husband today too. It must be the day! I'm tired of him acting like my child rather than my husband!

hippohips
07-27-2005, 11:27 AM
Misty, aww, sounds like your day is off to a rotten start! Have you considered getting rid of some of your stuff through freecycle.org? It is a pretty fun way to do it.

iowa, I can see where you are torn. For me, the in person group support is a bad thing, but I know why so many people benefit. I would rather spend the $11 or so on a movie a week by myself, though. :dunno: Some people have mentioned joining TOPS which offers the same support but less cash.

Never got my nap yesterday and was actually doing the headnodding thing. Went to bed at 1:15ish rather than 2 last night, so that is a start. No time for a *yawnnn* nap today, though. Also, it looks like I will be working days next week (but not days and nights :-/), so I really have to get my sleeping straightened out for the switch.

Have a few points questions that you girls might know. . .
Nestle Quick-the label says per 25g or such. . .does that work out to 2T for Quik powder?
Is a baked potato with 1t margarome 4 points?
How much is a cup of prepared mashed potatoes? I thought for sure this was in my WW book, but I can not find it anywhere now. :dunno:

MistySeptember
07-27-2005, 11:32 AM
WAY TO GO KITTY!!!! :cb: :cb: :cb: :bravo:

AMEN to that Stephanie!!! It's like I have three kids instead of 2.

As far as meetings go, well I am in week 4 and other than my slider thing for AP I haven't gotten anything I will probably use. I suggested staying for the 12 weeks before, but now I'm not so sure how good that advice was. Sorries :o I thought I'd get more stuff I could use. Maybe I will in future weeks. Maybe b/c I am not new to this whole weight loss thing this stuff is old news?

So really it's up to you. If you think you can do it on your own, go for it. I lost 30 pounds that way. For me right now I need the escape even if it's to sit in a folding metal chair in a church basement for an hour. Just to drive alone, and stop and get gas alone, and go to the meeting alone, is worth the $12 to me, a person who's lucky to pee alone. And like you I skrimp and save while DH does stuff like eats out everyday and flies at $70-$100 an hour. But if it's the support you need, then the meetings are good. You also have us though. There are several people on here who are doing it themselves. You can try it a few weeks on your own and if it doesn't work you can try the meetings again. Losingw eight is all about what works for you there is no one size fits all approach.

Ok Kids screaming all over the palce go to go. Going to go decompress with a Pepsi One!
~misty

MistySeptember
07-27-2005, 11:36 AM
We posted at the same time Hippo :) I'll see if I can find those points for you. Someone else might beat me to it though cause I have to make lunch and such. I am gonna check out that website. My bestfriend told me I have more stuff than a dead person and that she's seen less stuff at estate sales. LOL

byes:)

MistySeptember
07-27-2005, 12:32 PM
Nestle Quick-2Tblspn=2 points
baked potato (white)- small 2 inch diameter (3 oz)=1 point
-large 5 inches (7 oz)=3 points
so what ever your potatoe is plus the number of points in margarome
How much is a cup of prepared mashed potatoes? This si what is listed under Potatoes, Mashed in my book:
1/2 c=2
frozen prepared 1/2 c=2
garlic mashed 1/2 c=4
mix in a cup 1 (1.5 oz)=3

Hope this helps

Kitty53
07-27-2005, 12:47 PM
Steph,

I don't go to meetings anymore. The only thing I got from meetings is the point slider & AP slider that I still use. The last time I joined WW their Core Plan was new. I use Core every so often when I get tired of counting points.
I did buy the Complete Food Companion & Dining Out books. I use those quite a bit. One of the dogs tried to read it, too, so the cover is a little chewed up. lol

I do join WW about once a year and attend a few meetings, then wing it on my own. But a lot of times I feel like Misty that I need more support than I can get on my own. But since I've joined this group, I'm doing well. At least I can talk to you all about diet, food, etc. & your eyes don't glaze over & you begin to nod off...like some friends & family who shall remain nameless. :lol:

Now that the heat wave has broke, I'm doing some long needed cooking. Roasting a whole chicken in the crock pot, making big pot of zero point veggie soup which is my old standby. A cup of this soup before a meal & you won't eat too awful much more.

Gotta run & check on soup. TTFN

hippohips
07-27-2005, 01:13 PM
Thanks, Misty! 1/2c=2 is that before milk/margarine?
Potatoes are so low in points. . .am surprised because they are quite filling!
Great to know about the Quik. Was hoping, but was not sure. I mix green tea, a touch of milk and a tablespoon of quik all up and it is a delicious energy-type drink!

Kitty, can you post your recipe for veggie soup?

Kitty53
07-27-2005, 01:46 PM
Sure, Hipp,

Here goes:

I start out with a sweet onion, chopped. Put about 1-2 teasp of olive or canola oil in a big pot, throw in onions and cook for a few minutes on medium heat. While that is cooking, chop about 1/2 head of cabbage, rinse & drain - then go ahead & throw it in the pot. I use 1 or 2 cans of diced tomatoes. You can use whatever kind you like, today I used basil, olive oil & onion flavor. Put tomatoes in pot. Then you can put in 1 or 2 cans of lowfat or no fat beef broth. I didn't have any cans, so I used about 3 cubes of beef boullion & about 32 oz water. You can use chicken, beef, or veggie broth-whatever you like.

Bring this to a boil, then I add whatever veggies I feel like. Today I added about 1/2 a bag of frozen mixed veggies & half a bag of frozen broccoli cuts. Bring pot back to boil, then reduce heat & simmer 15-20 min. If you like a more tomato-ey taste, you could add a 12 oz can of tomato or V8 juice. Add any herbs or spices that you like. This recipe is just a basic guide. I have used zucchini squash, summer squash & fresh tomatoes from the garden at times. If you don't like cabbage, use anything else. Anything goes with this soup. Just make sure it is all 0 point veggies.

The V8 could add points, but I count 1 cup servings of the soup as 0. Probably if you ate more than that at a time I would count is as no more than 1 pt for 2 cups.

Enjoy!!! Hope this helps. I don't always use recipes, so if any ?'s please ask.

BTW, here is a web site for some more recipes http://wwkippy.proboards40.com/index.cgi? hope that works. Kit

hippohips
07-27-2005, 02:06 PM
Thanks for the recipe! :)

hippohips
07-27-2005, 02:35 PM
So :tantrum: at my former employer! Have been trying for two weeks to get a stupid paper saying I worked there. Just keep getting transferred around to voicemails and no one has returned my messages. I can not apply for an apartment until I get it. ugh. I am sooooooo out of time.

luflic
07-27-2005, 03:39 PM
HH something I do is buy no fat hot chocolate mix it is only 1 pt. and I add it to my coffee and then I have a mocha coffee for one point it is such a treat for me!!!!

iowasteph2
07-27-2005, 04:12 PM
Hippo, you're just having some rotten luck. Man, I can't believe it!! When it rains it pours. It will get better though, I promise! Is it too far for you to go to the company in person to ask for a letter?

I'm pretty much convinced myself to stop attending WW meetings? Misty, you have a point though, it really is my only social outlet also. Maybe I should stick with them just to keep my sanity....

I'm been horrible with points today. I'm currently drinking a 20 ounce Mountain Dew. Nothing like drinking 5 points of my day!! (I'm mad at myself, but it tasted so good, and I was so tired!)

I heard that there's a Nestle Quick that is made with Splenda now. I haven't seen it, but it might be worth checking on. I look Nestle Quick!!!

hippohips
07-27-2005, 04:13 PM
luflic, thanks for the tip-I love mochas! Will have to look around.


I always say that I am not "getting my hopes up" or such, but usually I do. I keep building them up and up. Just found out that there are no apartments left in this building. The truth is, I am devastated. Is silly, but I am. So now I have two days to find and secure an apartment, find movers, blah blah blah. Just is lousy. I hate change so much and staying in the same building would have made it a little easier, you know? Who knows where I will end up now. I am just so tired. So tired of all of it. I just want it to be over. Why does it have to be hard either way? Is it not bad enough that I am not welcome in my marriage? I can not stay and can not go. Like, it just is hard enough to deal with the whole thing like having to leave. Hurts and breaks my heart twice a minute. But, at least make it easy to go. I just want a place to call home. It just feels so unfair. And I know no one ever said life was fair, but it is sad to be a good person and obey rules and give your heart and such and it just seems like everything is working against me. I think the whole situation is just hitting me hard right now. I know it sounds selfish, but I just feel like nothing good is happening like I have no luck and nothing on my side. I know that there are a lot of people in situations which would make this look so silly, but to me it is everything. My world is gone and my marriage is gone and I do not want to move on but have to, so why can I not catch a break? Why can I never walk to a crosswalk and not have the little red hand start flashing before I reach it? Why do machines always take my quarters? Just feel like I have been living one long bad day for months or years now. . . And am so sick of hearing that it "will all work out" and that there is karma and that everything is for a reason and everything will be okay. What really hurts and is so confusing is that I really really want to hate my husband, but I do not and it would make it soooo much easier if I could. Am glad to be walking to work in a few minutes. Not that I want to be at work, but the walk will be nice. Another thing that is really getting to me is that two of our cats are going to stay with him. I love them so much and hate that I will not see them again. </vent>

hippohips
07-27-2005, 04:15 PM
iowa, sorry, we must have started typing at the same time. yeah, it is over by Michigan and I am over by Montana heh.

What about replacing WW meetings with another social outlet you might enjoy more or benefit from more?

MaggieShines
07-27-2005, 04:41 PM
Steph... volunteering at a local church or community center is a great way to socialize!

HH... honey, you sound like you're about to implode. I know you've said you aren't depressed, but it sure sounds like it. You don't have to be sad all the time to be suffering from depression. I'm going to suggest again that you seek some sort of counseling or at least try to connect with someone close by. Please. And you've told us that your family doesn't know about the divorce, but maybe if you tell them they'll be of some help (whether financial or emotional or both).

I know this is none of my business and you certainly don't have to answer this question here, but if your husband wants out of the marriage, why on earth are YOU the one looking for a new home? Is he offering any financial help? Why isn't he helping with any of this? Apparently, it wasn't your idea to end the marriage, so you shouldn't be the one doing everything and worrying about everything. Don't you have a lawyer to be your advocate? It seems to me that the person who's walking out on a marriage should be the one who has to get out. And why on earth would he get to keep your cats? If you don't have some reprsentation in all this, you should try to get some. Just from the little bit you've told us, it seems you're getting the raw end of the deal and your husband has no concern for your well being at all. You need people on your side.

MistySeptember
07-27-2005, 05:09 PM
I don't want to over stpe my bounds or anything but... I was going to type the exact thing Maggie did. Why are you the one leaving? Why is there a time limit?

Maggie is right you need someone to protect your rights. It may not be cheap, but you need to protect yourself. If he wants out kick his butt to the curb. That's my opinion. I'm sorry to be so blunt. I want to support you and I know this is hard and not something I have to deal with so I can't speak from experience. But sweetie, this isn't right. Life isn't always fair and divorce is rarley pretty. But I don't see why you are getting such a bad deal. He obviously has family to pressure and support him. Perhaps, even if the call will be hard your family can help. I don't know them or the situation, but you need someone in your corner. Perhaps just call a lawyer and see where to begin?

I'll keep you in my thoughts

Lizzyg
07-27-2005, 06:43 PM
Hi everyone!

I'm still feeling yucky. OMG today I almost threw up at work because we had like 3 patients in a row who decided it was a good idea to bathe in old lady perfume today. :barf: :barf: I go through weird phases like this where I cant handle strong smells, and just feel not good. Hopefully it will pass soon, cause its getting annoying!

I had a piece of cake today that I made for 2 co workers (its their bday) and it was soooo good. I have no idea how many points it is, but I just figured 5 :) lol

I think I may have lost another pound, my official weigh in isn't until Friday, so I'll have to wait till then to move my ticker.

I didn't get up and exercise this morning :o I reset my alarm and slept in that extra 20 mins. I've been sooo tired on top of feeling sick to my stomach, I cant seem to get enough sleep! I did walk on my lunch today though, for about 10 mins.

I've never actually been to a meeting. All the info I've gotten is from friends, family members and co workers, and the internet :) I've never actually joined WW, and I'm still doing pretty good :)

Anyway, I should go make something for dinner.

~Liz

Kitty53
07-27-2005, 06:48 PM
:grouphug: HH,

I'm with Maggie & Misty on this one. If your husband is the one wanting to get out of the marriage, looks like he could leave & you could stay in your apartment. He probably has more resources than you do. You sound so emotionally down & out right now, that it is not a good time to run blindly around and make decisions. I know what I'm talking about, been thru it, too. I wish that I would have had some older (ahem!) and possibly wiser people to support me. I know, it's easy for us to say you should do this or that. But when you have lived as long as I have, I know a lot of things that don't work. Ok, I'll climb down off the soapbox now.

Hang in there, girl, you're in my thoughts & prayers. :grouphug:

hippohips
07-27-2005, 11:12 PM
HH... honey, you sound like you're about to implode. I know you've said you aren't depressed, but it sure sounds like it. You don't have to be sad all the time to be suffering from depression.
hehe I was thinking the same thing while I was writing that. Was like aww man I had better stop thinking before I implode! And then gee and I told them I am not depressed. hehb Just have major mood swings. ;)


And you've told us that your family doesn't know about the divorce, but maybe if you tell them they'll be of some help (whether financial or emotional or both).
The situation is too complicated. And if they knew, I would have to fight with all my strength not to move back home and take a major step back in my life.

I know this is none of my business and you certainly don't have to answer this question here, but if your husband wants out of the marriage, why on earth are YOU the one looking for a new home?
I would not be able to afford this place, so I am moving to a cheaper place. He might end up doing the same.

Is he offering any financial help? Why isn't he helping with any of this? Apparently, it wasn't your idea to end the marriage, so you shouldn't be the one doing everything and worrying about everything.
Hehe, calm down! :) Do not get more upset than me lol. He is helping with the deposit and the movers. Once things are done legally, I will probably request alimony of some sort if I am eligible.

Don't you have a lawyer to be your advocate?
Oh, honey, I barely have enough money to buy soap, a lawyer is out of the question (and the marriage itself is deep in debt, as well. . .so neither does he).

And why on earth would he get to keep your cats?
Well, together we have five cats. Two were mine before we married and one was his before we married. We adopted two others. So, he is keeping "his" cat and the second adopted cat because they are very close to each other. I really really will miss them because I have spent so much time with them and such and really had to fight hard to get the second one, but would not want to separate them. Are there visitation rights for cats? ;(


Just from the little bit you've told us, it seems you're getting the raw end of the deal and your husband has no concern for your well being at all. You need people on your side.
You know, I thought I was getting the raw end of the deal, but hey. . .he will be losing me, so. . . :lol:

Why is there a time limit? I did not want to look for apartments until I could afford to live there on my own, so I waited until I got a job and then boom. . .end of the month. There is also a very very vindictive, heartless, cruel, and bossy mother-in-law involved. I have been so patient and courteous with her, but she is coming up in August and I would rather not face her again in person. Would have a very good chance of losing my temper. The time limit sucks, but in a way I do not want it to be any longer. And although we were mostly peacefully working on it, with the MIL involved everything is suddenly legalities and such like the lease is in his name, blah blah. Do not even want to get into it. That wretched woman has hurt both of us countless times, it is very sad that he even trusts her after everything, but I just do not want to fight. I know that is wimpy, but would rather be in my own place and wimpy than battling wretched people. Besides, even if I could afford this place, I am not sure I would want it. I love the view (you can see the Rockies from here!), but my husband smokes inside the apartment and it would always stink like that. It is a "used" apartment heh.

Lizzy, ooooh I hate that! I have times when I am super sensitive to smells, as well. I can not go near the laundrymat or through an aisle with soaps at a grocery store.



Well my night was 50/50. On the way to work, I got a slushie thingy that I am looking up the points for now. It was on sale and I was so thirsty. I resisted the temptation to buy anything on my dinner break, because I knew I would be hungry when I got home either way. Also resisted the urge to try a frozen hot chocolate which sounds soooo good.

At work, I overheard my boss inviting two girls to her birthday party this weekend. I automatically thought, "ugh what am I going to buy?" but after listening to her invite all of my co-workers she did not invite me. Everyone else is newer than me, too. Geeeeee. Just felt like I was in high school again. Then, one guy that temps there told me about a vacancy in his building. Now, I was not exactly thrilled because I am not fond of him. We talked quite a bit about two weeks ago and then he asked me out. I said no, but politely. Then later on he was asking about cats because his wife wants one. Anyway, the apartment building is pretty close to this one which means close to transit and such, so the idea began to grow and grow on me on the walk home (which was 2 hours earlier than normal because we met our quota). But of course, of course!, when I got to the building, the building manager told me the guy that I had passed when going into her office had just signed the lease for the last available apartment. It is like fate is trying, but keeps missing, you know? Oh, we have to help hippo get this apartment, so let her out of work two hours early! Oops, I guess we should have let her out two and a half hours early. :^: My fairy godmother is as unorganized as me!

The coffee chain has a website but no nutrition information. :( Need a good guesser. . .for about 12 oz. . ."a refreshing combination of premium fruit juice and organic tea blended with ice". So, mostly fruit juice. Can anyone guesstimate the points?