Weight and Resistance Training - LWL # 213 July 25 - July 31

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07-25-2005, 09:06 AM
Good Morning LWL :sunny:

Getting a slow start around here today ;) I'm about to drag dd out of bed a hustle her to the gym with me. It's chest day for me, and she does full body workouts.

I spent yesterday attacking the jungle that used to be my gardens and am covered in various insect bites. Trying hard not to scratch. My break was doing "hopping around" cardio in front of the TV during the last hour of the Tour de France. :bravo: LANCE!!! and Vinokourov!


07-25-2005, 09:38 AM
G'morning, Mel! Congrats again on your WL anniversary!

I promised myself I wouldn't lurk so much this week and actually *post* more. I've been in a weird phase lately where I haven't felt as if I have anything inspiring to say, so I've just kept my lips zipped for the most part.

Things are going well here, though, despite a baffling 2 pound gain this weekend. I feel certain it's water weight as I ate pretty well and didn't drink at all. It's OK... lately I've gotten much less tense about subtle fluctuations; I guess I've just seen them too many times to get as upset as I used to! :lol:

My weights workouts have been GREAT lately! I've moved almost 100% to free weights (except the lat pulldown, some cable exercises, and the chin assist machine), I'm adding some new challenges like doing some exercises on the bosu ball, and I'm intensifying my leg workouts every week. I don't know why, but I find upper body so much more comfortable; I think it's because I'm still terrified of my squat form. I think most of you are anti-Smith machine, but is it an OK thing to do while I'm still trying to improve my form?

I know this might sound wussy to you guys, but I recently had a bicep breakthrough. For over a year, I was only able to use the 12-pound weights for bicep curls. I could do drop sets with the 15-pound weights but definitely couldn't finish a set. I have no idea what happened (I think it might be from doing close-grip pullups with the chin assist machine, actually!), but one day I just felt, "hmm... these 12 pound weights feel too light" and was able to do two sets with the 15 pounders. I haven't looked back since. The body is such an odd machine!!!!! :dizzy:

This is my last week of work before the big week-long canoe trip on the Allagash River in Maine with my (get this) 18-year old nephew. I'm a little nervous -- my inner fat girl is really trying to psych me out here, but I KNOW I can do it. It's going to be a nice challenge, for sure, but it's not impossible. I have to remind myself that I've been "training" for over a year now :) Maybe I should be less worried about the physical challenge and be more concerned about spending 24 hours a day and sleeping in a tent with a smartass 18-year old boy (with my DH, of course!) :lol: He's a good kid, but like most 18 year olds, he's convinced he knows everything :spin: !

Hope everyone is doing well this week. Ilene, hope your dad is OK... Sandy, hope you & your mom are hanging in there. Sarah, hope Lorraine is doing better and you're feeling stronger, and everybody else -- hope this is a fantastic week!

07-25-2005, 10:14 AM
Hi Jenn,

Tell your inner fat girl to take a hike! You are going to have a great time canoeing and yes, you can do it. As for the Smith machine, I only broke up with dear Mr. Smith this past May. I still look at him from time to time and remember how much he helped me and how he was there for me. He is good for you too. Use him as much as you want, he doesn't care and when you are finally ready to break it off, I'm sure he will be very understanding about the whole thing.

I am FEELING my leg and shoulder workouts. I did the iso-leg press machine for the first time and man, having your legs work independently of each other puts a whole new spin on this exercise. And I need to go and find Bilal (cutey that showed me the new shoulder exercise) and give him either a kiss or a slap, I'll decide which when I see him.

Its supposed to be 93 degrees and super humid in the Motor City today so I will NOT be running at cheer practice. Don't want to risk any heat injuries for myself or more importantly, my team.


07-25-2005, 01:08 PM
I still return to Mr. Smith for all sorts of squat variations. There are some things you can't do with a free bar! Like split squats, plie squats, toes forward squats, one foot on bosu, other leg back, then knee up (variation on a split squat). Mr. Smith and I will be friends for a long time. There is no substitue for a real free bar squat, but I still think the Smith machine is a great tool.

Had a ho-hum chest workout this morning. Oh well, they can't all be record breakers :dizzy:

Off to go have a mother-daughter bonding experience with my Visa card at the outlets,

07-25-2005, 02:52 PM
Well, then... I have a date with Mr. Smith scheduled for tomorrow morning. Unconventional time for a date, I know, but he's headed to Washington in the evening. :lol:

The guy gets around!

07-25-2005, 03:58 PM
Hello everyone! :wave:

I posted on the "introduce yourself" sticky. I've just completed a full body workout with dumbells! PHEW! I'm loving the tired muscle feeling! (Is it just me or does it just feel great to be physically exhausted for a change?)

It's only my 2nd time through the whole lot and I think I've got the right weights for each exercise now. I went a bit light on the squats previously and I think I could probably go a little bit heavier if I really tried! :rofl:

Ok so 1st question: I know you guys do "splits" where you work different body parts different days (am I right?), but I just put 2 workouts (upper and lower body) together cos I like to work out my whole body all at once. I feel a bit cheated when I can move my arms, but not my legs in the morning! :lol3: Is this ok? I mean to work the whole body all at once? I like the idea of splits, but I feel a bit of a slacker!

07-25-2005, 04:04 PM
Hi -- I guess I'll need to post a proper intro in the sticky above (if it's open) but I wanted to try to jump on in here. I posted about 6 months ago in "maintenance" but wasn't so much into the weight training the way I should have for any of this to make sense. Well, I've changed and so has my body! :-)

I'm now at the point of trying to put it all together. I realize that I've mentally boxed myself into counting calories and I'm way too low. But there's a part of me that's very afraid to gain weight-- even though it should be muscle. My current goals are to work out (done), stop counting cals (trying), up the protein (trying) and avoid the scale.

I notice that a lot of people here started out on BFL for their eating plan. Are you still doing it? How have you adapted it? Or what do you do? I like the "protein" at every meal part, but I don't know about all the rules (I know, sometimes you have to follow the program...). I did Atkins for a year (due to that and calorie counting, I've lost 80# and kept it off about 9 months now).

I met with an RD at my club, but she just said I need to eat more and esp more protein. Dh is happy that I'm, at least, adding in the PWO shake on days that I lift (almost every other day). I think the biggest thing I worry about is that my body is just tired. It's not really muscle soreness, it's just a feeling that I can't even take the next step some days. So I think I'm hurting myself by not getting enough protein and I'm finally listening to what people tell me.

So, any advice, ideas, suggestions? It seems so easy to find advice on weight loss (116#) , fat loss (last bf% was about 16%) or for men who want to bulk and need 3000 cals/day. My ears are open!!!


07-25-2005, 05:21 PM
Welcome, Brenda and 2frustrated! I'm sure you'll get lots of thoughts and advice from folks here.

This is my last week at work, so I'm running around headless-chicken-y. Not sure if I'll get to the gym, but I'm going to try to keep the junk food to a minimum at least.

07-25-2005, 10:53 PM
Hope it's OK if I jump in.....

Today was chest and triceps. I used the rope attachment for triceps pushdown for the first time and wow! Really worked my triceps! Gonna do that one again!

Also, HIIT on the bike. :ebike:

Tomorrow, legs. I'm trying to stay off the treadmill because I'm getting shin splints!


07-25-2005, 11:24 PM
Hello, all -- Welcome, Brenda and 2frustrated!

Hey, before I forget, did you guys catch that article (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=911574#post911574) posted over at The Library saying weight training isn't beneficial to weight loss? :dizzy:

I had a good full body workout today -- also did 50 minutes of cardio. I have a Cross Bow (like a Bowflex) but I usually only use it for cable rows and lat pulldowns. For the rest, I use dumbbells. Eventually I'll get around to getting a barbell, but for now, I get a good workout with what I have.

I've compromised on my intended 3 full body workouts/week to ease me back into weight liting. My legs just can't yet take doing squats, lunges and stiff-legged deadlifts 3 times a week! The compromise is to do 2 full bodies and an upper body (in which I'll work arms, chest, and back) -- at least to start out. Eventually I'll work up to a 4- or 5-day split, but this will get me started.

Thanks, Jen, for thinking of Lorraine and me. :) It's official, she has Lyme Disease -- that's what messed up her heart -- and it's wreaking havoc with her body at present. :( We have an appt. with a specialist on Thursday, and we're hoping to get some answers then. She's been on antibiotics for weeks, but she's still having some real problems. It's amazing what Lyme Disease can do! It just really sucks that as soon as I was done with chemo we got hit with this. Oh well, you just deal, right? :^: I'm feeling stronger all the time. I'm told I won't be 100% for a year, but compared to how I felt during the 6 months of chemo, I'm freaking Superman!! :p Anyway, thanks for the support. I really appreciate it. And I'm with Tiki -- tell that innerfatgirl to get the heck outta here, or the kickassbuffgirl that you've grown into will kick her tail! Also, I've read that women have a really hard time building bicep strength, so I think you're not alone in your past struggles on that count, if that's any comfort. Great job on your recent gains! :high:

I hope your dad is doing ok, Ilene. What kind of cancer does he have? He's doing radiation now, right? Some people can tolerate that really well; I hope your dad is one of them. Give him a hug for me, from one survivor to another. :grouphug:

Lieke, hope your dear BF comes around soon... :goodvibes

I'm with you, Mel -- GO LANCE!!!! GO, GO, GO!!! :bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

07-26-2005, 12:43 AM
Thanks for the link to that article Sarah, I would have missed it. Really most of the points made are things that (I think) we all pretty much accept. Weight lifting alone really isn't the way to lose weight. Are there any LWL who don't also do a good bit of cardio? Anyone out there looking to lose weight who isn't reducing his/her caloric intake to some extent (or at least getting better results whey they do)? I think the point was to refute some of these gurus who make it sound like 8 minutes a day spent with 5 lb weights will change your metabolism (read: life) when that is obviously not the case. In doing so, I think they downplayed the very real benefits far too much. But hey, at least it made the point that most women don't lift heavy enough to do themselves any good.

BTW, I read an article in Glamour the other day (when you do as much treadmilling as I do, sometimes it gets to be slim pickins) that made a reference to the ineffectiveness of light weights. YEA!

After typing the following I felt the need to warn people before hand:lol: .

On the other hand, I had dinner with an occupational therapist the same day who proceeded to tell everyone that "no one at THIS table" needs to be lifting to failure- looking at the 3 other women sitting there. "There's no reason for one of US to do anything like that. WE don't want to get all big and muscle bound." This was prompted by fishing questions from my sister who thinks that by lifting enough to be sore the next day I am "hurting" myself. According to this "expert" if you lift weights regularly, become muscular, and then stop, all that muscle turns to fat -alchemists eat your heart out- and you get flabby. Duh...I was flabby before I started lifting weights and if I stop and left myself go I will be again (what a newsflash - somebody needs to call the NY Times). At the not-so-subtle prodding of my sister she wouldn't actually say that it would hurt you, "but why would one of US want to do that?"

Same nimrod had earlier explained that she doesn't go to a particular gas station because it's owned by Iranians and they are all terrorists. I felt like it would be rude to express my disdain and contempt for two different comments by the same person. I had already fought the racism battle so I didn't deign to reply to the weight lifting issue. BUT ARGGGHH!


07-26-2005, 04:53 AM
Hi everyone,

finally made it to the common PC, wanted to yesterday evening but I could not as the 'phone was ringing ALL the time.
The job interview went well (they usually do, I'm a pretty glib talker on the whole), but the job looks too much like the one I'm already doing + it's a 6-month contract via a job agency and I currently have an indefinite contract (OK, I'll explain this: In France, when you have an indefinite contract, it's a lot more difficult to be fired, it's a steady job, more benefits etc.), + the money does not add up enough.
Oh well, one day I'll find the job of my dreams or it'll find me.
NO gym last week, and it's closing for 3/4 of August, so I'll figure out something with free weights and cardio to keep me going.

I'll just do back-breaking work in the garden, I'm already nicknamed "the little garden gnome" by DBF and colleagues anyway, that should do the job. My hams are killing me....
Mel, I'm positively covered in red itchy spots, I don't even kno where they are coming from and have stopped counting them. Tour de France passed by pretty close to my house, saw no Lance though (pity).

Sarah, I heard about Lyme Disiease, and I hope Lorraine is going to recover soon, I'll keep her in my thoughts and pray for her, you tell her! DBF is feeling better, because he has 3 weeks of holidays coming up...

2frustrated, welcome, I saw you posting elsewhere, keep going, you're on the right track! You're at the beginning of getting fit, so do what you can, learn and work upwards slowly. These ladies here are veterans! You could also find a PT to help you and guide you through your first few months, that would be a great help.
Tiki, Bought myself a new bikini too, I still feel chubby in it but I figured if I have to look fat I'd rather do it in a sashy bikini than in a one-piece which reminds me how I used to feel when I was a fat little teenager...

Jen, you just go and have fun, d'you hear?!

Hugs to all,


07-26-2005, 08:06 AM
Hi all - welcome newbies!!

Julia - I wold have loved to have been with you at that table - and we could have shown them what it means to be strong women. Oh well ... On another topic, Mr. Smith and I are still hot and heavy on a few things, chest press for form and different squats, so I guess he did come to Washington.

Jen - IFG is not a "ggod playmate" for any of us. Kick her in the butt and let her go back to wherever she hides out (but not in my house, OK?)

Sarah and Ilene - my thoughts are with you both.

Lieke - I know the perfect job is out there for you - keep yourself open and it will find you. I don't know what I would do if my gym closed for 3 weeks - on the other hand, your garden must be beautiful!

Laura - last week - wow. How time flies. Remember to take some time for yourself this week so you do not leave and start off exhausted.

Hope everyone else is having a good week. I am going back to the physical therapist tomorrow - now that my ankles aren't hurting when I run, my left arch is. I KNOW pain-free running is out there for me. Otherwise, my lifting and yoga sessions look to be on target. It has been two weeks since my last yoga session and I am looking forward to it today (1 hour and counting).

Interesting point - since I have decided to "step back" and consider myself on maintenance I have lost 8 more pounds. I think my body needed this past two months to adjust and I just needed to let go. It has been a great time for me - my workouts are fun again and food is easy as well as clean. I needed to get back to how "I" feel rather than what the scale says. Thanks for sticking by me.

I am having lunch with my trainer today and talking about what direction I want to take my certification into and let him poke holes in my thoughts. As much as I am enjoying the NASM pre-course, I am thinking ACSM is the way to go, followed by getting an additional certification as a Wellness Coach. I'll keep you all posted.

07-26-2005, 11:22 AM
Julia - I wold have loved to have been with you at that table - and we could have shown them what it means to be strong women.
I suddenly got a mental picture of the two of us standing up, flipping the table over, roaring and flexing, tearing the ends of our shirts & pants, a la the Incredible Hulk, red (green?) faced & veins bulging:lol:

Maybe then she would have understood why one of US wanted to do that.

07-26-2005, 11:47 AM
Julia - I can't believe what that woman said about Iranians... How narrow minded!

Ok this is going to be the 3rd time I've posted this - sorry Kyk and YP who post on the other threads... I RESISTED A DANISH PASTRY! This is a MAJOR lifestyle breakthrough! Normally I would've jumped at the "treat", but since I've started lifting, I find the motivation to eat cleanly is stronger than ever before - after all, there's no protein in a Danish! Just over all the actual "clean eating" thing is proving so easy (apart from at the weekend when i took 2 days off - we were in Cornwall, pasties and clotted cream aplenty!) It's so motivating thinking that you have to eat clean foods in order to build muscle (I know it's not exactly like that but you get the point) and eating junk isn't going to help! I haven't had a chocolate bar for over a week!

Ok I'll stop ranting and go and polish my halo :angel: ...

But really! WOW! I'm amazed with myself! :rofl:

07-26-2005, 12:45 PM
Get down with ya bad self, 2F. Great job on resisting Danish pastries. And yeah, I always do better with eating right when I'm working out and slinging weights. Don't want to undo what I've just worked so hard for, I guess.

I am so shocked about the dumb A person talking about weights and Iranians. Maybe an Iranian one of "us" should come and beat her over the head with a 60 lb. dumbbell. That would really serve 'em right. And it would be prettier than "US" ripping our clothes off and turning green. Personally, I never look good in green. :p

I didn't make it into the gym so I did my back / bi workout on DS new weight set. It has a lat pulldown attachment, preacher curl thingy and an incline bench so I was able to do the full workout. I don't have heavy enough handweights at home for my DB Rows so I did drop sets of 20, 15, 10 back to 20s instead. Man that burned good. I felt so strong, like the chick from the Terminator II movie when I finished. My chest / tri workout will also be at home today because I'm having a door repaired. He doesn't know it yet, but in addition to fixing my door, the repair guy is going to have to spot me on my bench presses. After all, I'm paying him with dinner for him and his two sons so I want to make sure that we break even.:devil:

Hey to everyone else out there. Keep doing whatcha doin unless of course, its bad and you need to CUT IT OUT!!!!:coach:


07-26-2005, 03:04 PM
Tiki, you make me smile :D


07-26-2005, 03:16 PM

I am slowly crawling into exercise land again. After my trip I am having hard time dong weights. Like mostly due to the fact that I do not have time after work but at work during lunch I do not have car to drive to the gym and it is darn HOT to use my bike to drive to the gym during lunch hour. So I just bike to/from work and even that much is hard - I hope it is due to the heat. I feel flab on my stomack and in my upper arms, but so far it has to wait till Thursday when my gym buddy is back from vacation and will drive me to the gym during lunch.

Other than that, I am having my 100 km mountain bike tour in 2 weeks and I feel I am more prepared than last year - does it mean that this time I will do it all (last year I skipped about 20km - did a detour!). Also, my triathlon is on August 13th - weekend after 100 km mountain biking tour - and I was skipping swimming for the whole month of July - hope I will not drown! It is open water - LOL!

Well, it was more of the rant, but thanks for listening... And yesterday my dog and I passed into intermediate level in agility team with flying colors - we were actually 2 points less to get into advanced! Only 2 mistakes were mine, not my dog's and I was really proud of him! Ran about 20 min during the test and felt exhausted!


07-26-2005, 06:10 PM

Go 2F!!! :cheer: :woo:
I promise you, it gets so much easier from here. And, on that day (and it will come) when you really WANT the danish you will know how to fit it into your "clean eats" plan. Woo Woo!!

Julia - so, I am in, tiki's in - I think we got a gang starting!!

Sandy - you will get back to it all - don't beat yourself up. You are doing great with the bike. The weights will come back - hopefully this heat will break soon and that will "make" it right for you.

I had lunch with my Personal Trainer today, and we talked about the future and my becoming certified. Basically, he not only couldn't find any holes, but encouraged me and offered any help I needed and promised to prod me to study. There have been a few changes. I have decided to go for the ACSM cPT certificate - it seems to be "gold" compared to the others. I hope to have it by Dec 31. Just orderd the books today. Then I am going to move forward to become a certified 'wellness coach' through Wellcoaches.com, spring-ish. Then, we will see from there. Meanwhile, I am feeling pretty good and hope to ride this "up" wave a good long time. Yep, I had yoga today (can you tell, huh, huh?) My yoga instructor is on vacation until mid-Aug so I ham hoping to find an alternative - like extra massage - between now and then.

07-26-2005, 08:22 PM
Good for you, Ellen! It sounds like the perfect plan for you. Without a doubt, ACSM is THE best and most prestigious certification. :) Unfortunately, I was a political science major in college and can't meet the ACSM undergraduate qualifications -- otherwise I would have gone for it in a heartbeat. I know that they won't even accept Mel's very scientific anthroplogy degrees so congrats on having the foresight on being a Bio major or whatever you were!

However, it's safe to say that when I graduated from college almost 30 years ago, I had NO clue what I'd be doing today!!! :crazy:

07-26-2005, 08:35 PM
Whoa! I'm confused! I just went to the ACSM site to drool over their certification and see that they don't require the undergrad degree in a health or science related field any more. I know that both Mel and I couldn't qualify for ACSM because of that - I checked back in Janaury when I was investigating certifications. Now they're using that same limitation for their 'Health Fitness Instructor' and 'Exercise Specialist' certifications. I wonder if they've split up the old PT certification into new ones and added a new PT one that doesn't require a college degree? Mel, do you know anything about the change? I might seriously investigate the certification now.

07-26-2005, 09:15 PM
Yep, that is EXACTLY why I chose to pursue the new ACSM cPT - my BA is in Geography and an MBA - not quite health related, huh? :D

07-26-2005, 10:06 PM
yep, they changed it on us. :( Now NSCA CSCS is the only cert that requires an undergrad degree in kinesiology, science, a med degree, chiropractric, etc. NSCA also added a new CPT certification because not enough people could qualify for the CSCS.

I just finished all my CEU's for recertification and now my gym is paying for me to get a ho-hum nutritional coach certification. Hey, they are paying for 15 more CEU's so I might as well do it. I should be done that one by the end of October.

Ellen, that sounds like a great plan! :bravo:

Today was shoulder day. In keeping with the thread on "weak shoulders" I decided to up all my weights. I can barely lift my arms. Oh boy! :o Legs tomorrow :p


07-27-2005, 05:44 AM
Went to my kickboxing class WOOO YEAH :dance: last night and felt seriously fitter than ever before!

Then I stepped on the scales this morning and measured myself :doh: put on 5lbs in about 6 or 7 weeks :doh: and perhaps 2" on my waist and my hips :dunno: I stopped measuring after that! :rofl:

But I FEEL better! Isn't that the main thing?

07-27-2005, 01:41 PM
Keep moving 2F and good job on not letting the scale drag you down. It will move as long as you keep on moving.

I'm in a super good yet super nervous mood. I can now fit into EVERYTHING in my closet. Well, except for a size 7/8 leather skirt and I can get it on, zipped and snapped, its just a little snugger than I'd like. This makes me happy, but one of my motivators was hanging something that I wanted to be able to wear on my exercise bike to remind me each day of my goal. Now I have nothing to hang there. I hate buying clothes that I haven't tried on so I don't know about buying smaller things as a motivator. What if I buy them and when I do lose weight, they don't look right on me? I can't afford to waste $$ like that. Hmmm, gotta find a new motivator.


07-27-2005, 05:12 PM
Just completed my full body weights routine! Upped most weights by 2.5lbs today! I'm psyched! :strong:

:wl:<- more like it!:rofl:

I'm really pleased with myself today! Well this week really! It's nice cos I've got the place to myself so I don't have anyone pestering me to do anything that I don't want to do! The only problem with my slave, sorry fiance, being away is that I've run out of food! :doh: I've got to nip to the corner shop to get eggs for breakfast! And milk! And lots of other stuff!

I am totally LOVING weights! WEIGHTS ROCK!

07-27-2005, 06:54 PM
I can't believe I haven't posted in LWL yet this week!! So here goes :D

2frustrated -- Welcome to our world...Weight training is awesome once you get into it and it seems like you have. Congrats on overcoming the danish pastry it is certainly a milestone... Throw away the scale for a while, if you're feeling better and healthier, that is definitely what counts...

Sarah -- So thoughtful of you to ask about my dad. He has prostate cancer and the radiation is barely bothering him he's a strong ole guy! He's on his 29th treatment he has a total of 37. So he's almost DONE :dance:

Tiki -- You rock girl :high: and you must be looking just awesome!!

Sandy -- You're going to be one ''in shape'' lady after that bike tour and the triathlon!! Keep up the great work...

Mel, Meg and Ellen -- You girls rock with all this studiousness (is that a word?) I'm going to have to take some kind of evening course in the fall to keep up with you guys, since BTW I was bumped from my job a couple of weeks ago. I just could not talk about it at first because I was too :censored: angry at the system/union... but I'm ok with it now, I'll just have to go back to replacing school secretaries when they are sick, but dang I hated to get a call at 8AM and have to be at a school by 8:30, argh!! I guess there is a reason for everything and something will come up whether it is with the school board or somewhere else, I'm not worried about it at all...

Today I had a super awesome shoulder workout, I too lifted heavier than last week and it was fun. My goal is to get that rounded shoulder look, you know, like the above the bicep. I also did 30 mins on the bicycle and 30 mins of running it was all good...

07-27-2005, 08:33 PM
O, Ilene,
I am so sorry about your job! My hubby lost his about a month ago and he is not in the union and now he went thru so many interviews that it is enough for 10 people but still has only one offer which he does not want to accept as it is the company where he worked before and was VERY unhappy. But i guess he has to accept it, as we do not have any savings at all and we need his job ASAP. How I understand that you do not want to talk about it!

And isn't it interesting that those things happen at the same time - like father is sick and they lay you off? Like - don't you have enough? Like when my hubby got layed off and my father passed away and tickets were astronomical price, my own country where I was born charged me 3xvisa price for "speed-visa". I was thinking - God, are you testing me, don't I have enough with mortgage renewal in 2 month, no job for hubby and the ticket price equal to my 2 month salary - no, you also want me to pay three time the price to enter the country!

Keep doing your exercise and I hope you will feel better! That's what I did today and I feel GREAT!

07-27-2005, 09:43 PM
Sandy -- I am not worried about finding work, I have always been very lucky for some reason. Now, if my DH would lose his job then that would be a different story I would be a nervous wreck....

07-27-2005, 11:04 PM
And yesterday my dog and I passed into intermediate level in agility team with flying colors - we were actually 2 points less to get into advanced! Only 2 mistakes were mine, not my dog's and I was really proud of him!
Wow, that's really impressive. I just got my new puppy and I'd be happy if he was housebroken at this point.:) And I can't believe you had to pay extra for a visa to your home country. I thought the US State Dept was bad. Hats off to you for doing the triathalon.

Ilene - good luck with the job search. I'm sure you'll find something better!

Tiki - how bout if you bought something that fits now but is just a little more, ahem, revealing? The more you sculpt the more you'll want to show it off:o

2f- I think I'll ride the coat tails of your enthusiasm. Next time I'm in London can I work out with you?:lol:

07-28-2005, 04:29 AM
Woooo YEAH! :rofl: I hope this doesn't wear off for a while! I'm seriously sore today though! I'm going to tackle a double kickboxing class after work, which really is the main motivation! I want to be a black belt ASAP!


07-28-2005, 07:41 AM
No time for a real post (trying to get ready for upcoming canoe trip!), but I just wanted to tell Ilene -- I'm sorry about your job! I hope you find something even better really soon.

Sandy, you're right that misfortune seems to come in twos and threes (or even fours -- ask Sarah! :( ).

Hang in there, everybody... now I'm off to the gym for an UBWO.

07-28-2005, 07:43 AM
:cheer: GO 2F - Julia is right, your enthusiasm is contagious. If I was more awake I'd run out right now and uhmmm, run.

Ilene - I am sorry about your job, but like others have said, you will look bakc on this as a turning point. There is another opportunity coming that you can now grab because the other job is no longer holding you back. My wishes are still with yoou and your father and the rest of the family. You have been amazing through this. Hope you have a "spa day" scheduled after his treatments end.

Sandy - I am so sorry about your troubles. The visa situation is a total question to me - how dare they? Hope things are getting back to a normal state. It sounds like you are doing well mentally - big *hug*

Pat - if I haven't missed you, have a great trip we'll miss you while your are gone. :wave:

Tiki - yes, buy something a little more "revealing" may be just the ticket - something that will make you feel like a million bucks. If I liked shopping, I'd come help you pick it out

Julia - *snaps* to you and the puppy! Love it!!

Today is an easy run day, gearing up for 10 miles on Sat. The weather is supposed to have broke - hopefully cooler and less humid. Yesterday I went to see the physical therapist - l have a slight plantar fascia issue with my foot. He did a manipulation and gave me some exercises, so hopefully pain free running is in my future! I am also a little sore at the top of my spine - I need to be more careful where I have the bar for my squats. I'll pay more attention next time.

Almost done the NASM course - hope to make today a big push study day. The ACSM books are on order - I am really looking forward to my fall. Today I hope to make reservations for DH and I to stay downtown for our anniversary in the middle of August. One of our favorite bands is playing at a local club, so we decided to make it into an "event" and stay in one of the fancy hotels for the night (ahh - room service and fluffy towels) - hope all the plans come together.

Hope everyone has a great workout today!

07-28-2005, 09:41 AM
You sure are a busy bunch -- in and out of the gym! Thanks for all of the welcomes. I'm inspired just reading what you all are doing.

Today is a lifting day for me. I think I'm going to do lower body because my legs have been sore and I need to work on them. It's more like weak than sore, but maybe they're just looking for attention.

I know that some of you are trainers, do the rest of you work out with trainers or just do it on your own? Do you follow a set program or how do you put your workouts together and how long do you stay with a program -- 6, 8, 12 weeks?

My kids both got scooters for their brithdays so I'm going to "force" them to scoot to the gym this morning. It's 1 mile each direction so it's a nice warm up for me and gets them out. We noticed our 7 yr old kind of plumped a bit during 1st grade so we're trying to nip that in the bud. Once you've done all the work to remove weight, it's hard to see your kids carry any extra.

Have a great day!

07-28-2005, 12:55 PM
Today is back, biceps and HIIT on the treadmill. My Pecs are still sore (hope I did them some good!) from chest on Monday.

Ellen, and other Baltimore/Washington people -- isn't this weather the best??!! :dancer: Let's enjoy the reprieve from the heat!


07-28-2005, 02:01 PM
Warning:all about me post ahead!
Yesterday turned out to be the day from ****. Did legs at the gym, back problems flared. Not unusual, so It wasn't the greatest workout. No cardio.
Scooted home, and dd and I headed out to Norstrom's Rack where I found 2 great pairs of jeans, a jacket (we tussled over it) and she got a great pair of shoes. On to lunch at Bahama Breeze. The waitress forgot to bring the coconut prawns that she'd had an orgasm while describing, so I had a nice clean meal. Midway through, the cell phone started. I usually hate people who use phones in restaraunts, but had left mine on because ds was heading home from Denver. DH calling- he was in pain (kidney stone) and headed to his doctor. We spent last Friday night in the ER so he knew what it was. I agreed to meet him there in 30 minutes. 5 minutes later, phone rings. DS's plane is being diverted to Chicago! WTF? How am I supposed to get him in Chicago? I paid extra $$ for US Scareways to "accompany" him: shouldn't they do something about this? Phone rings again: doctor is admitting dh to hospital, but no bed is ready so he is going to ER for pain management. Can't drive. Also can't explain real clearly WHERE HE IS! Phone rings while I'm trying to quickly get out of restaraunt: ds's plane is now going to Philadelphia but will be delayed 2 hours. Phew. DD is yelling at me to stop panicking. Finally found DH, got him to hospital and filled with happy drugs, and up to room. Thinking I had 2 extra hours, I meandered home, ate, got his stuff, then DS calls- plane left ON TIME!!!! Flew back to hospital, dumped stuff, kissed dopey dh, and headed for airport with dd. We got sent to 5 different areas 3 miles apart (did cardio) to get a gate pass, got sent to 2 wrong gates, and sat for an extra hour while all the ramps were closed (plane was on the ground) due to lightening. Passengers finally deplaned, but they neglected to say which gate, so ds (who is 6 feet tall and looks 17 yrs old) was kept in a little "holding pen" and not allowed to even leave to go to the bathroom until I finally found him. Luggage took another hour. Drove home through major lightening storm.

Today has GOT to be better. I did quicky arms this morning, quicky visit to hospital, orthodontist appointment for ds, (yay! braces off in 4 weeks :) ), 10 minutes in the computer, now I'm headed back to the gym for quicky fardio and 3 clients. :dizzy:

I think this is a plan B week.

Hello everyone. Ilene, sorry to hear about the job, sweetie.

Got to run,

07-28-2005, 02:34 PM
Thank god for you girls, I feel better just reading through the thread (except for Ilene and Mel).

No exercise these days but a lot of walking in 36 Celcius (whatever that is in F) jogging around town.
Basically, I feel PM'essy an bloated like a whale.
On the other hand, Good things: got paid today (ok, and bought pink leather flip-flops at 12$), so I will go and have a look at those weights I would like to buy tomorrow, my wishlist:
1 barbell
2 DB
2x10 kg weights
2x5 kg weights
2x2 kg weights
so at least I can do something at home except for breaking my back digging up the garden like a gopher.

Ilene, I'm so sorry about losing your job! Damn (sorry)! Can you be fired so easily from your job? Here in France you need 3 misdemeanour letters + be sent home 3 times or something...

Poor Mel!

Bye to everyone else!

Even my typing is sluggish today, sent another CV worked, will go home, cook, sleep , read, sweat, slug around etc.



07-28-2005, 04:07 PM
Yikes Mel! I hope things get better asap.

Walk to and from gym plus 45+ min of weight training under my belt. Happy dance that my legs aren't tired and I went up on weights for presses, curls & extensions so hopefully it was just a combo of fueling better and a growing stage.

I'm thinking of picking up a pair or two of dumbbells for at home. I got a stability ball (free) a few weeks ago and would like to have a mini-home gym just for those days when timing to the real gym doesn't work out. Anyway, most of my db sets are in the 20-25# range. So I have to decide if I want to start out with 20#ers and just get the bigger ones and hope I grow into them quickly. Anyone who works out on a ball vs a bench? Any suggestions? Does the balancing factor make it harder to lift the same? I don't want to get "stuck" with too small dbs, although I'm sure I could find some new torturous exercise to use them for when it's needed. Oh, and does anyone have any good stability ball workouts?


07-28-2005, 07:18 PM
Brenda- I find that I can only do my warm-up sets on a ball, then have to seitch to a bench for my heaviest sets. For my clients who are not concerned with gaining hunks-o-muscle mass (and hence not using really heavy weights), I just keep them on a stability ball. If I go over 45 pd db's for presses, for example, I have to move to a bench or I feel like I'm going to fall through the ball. Otherwise, a ball is great for virtually everything :)


07-29-2005, 06:17 AM
Mel that sounds like a mental day!

I got paid today too Greekgirl - I'm going to buy a barbell set too! :dance:

Did 2 hours of Kickboxing last night! GRRRRR! Hoohah! (I need a boxer smiley!!!)

Full body weights when I get home, then tidying! Oh yeah! Fun day! Might be going to see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory! Bet it's not as good as Gene Wilder's!

07-29-2005, 07:52 AM
I am with Luann - yesterday was GORGEOUS - just we needed here in DC. Whew, a break from the heat and humidity. I actually enjoyed going to Costco. OK, maybe not that much ;)

Mel - hope DH is getting better and DS is getting some rest - when is it your turn? Do I need to come up there and drag you for a spa day? Does your gym offer massages? I think you deserve one - right now!

You know, we all seem to be fighting a bit of the summmer doldrums, but I am so impressed that everyone keeps knucking down and doing something to keep their workouts in check. It keeps me going, too, and I thank you all for taking the time to share. Mom2W is absoultely right - it is inspiring.

So, my yoga instructor is away for two weeks. To make up for her absence and the missed sessions over the past 2 weeks my Pilates instructor has agreed to do a "stretchy" Pilates session, my trainer will do a "stretching" workout and my massage therapist will make time for me for an extra massage (in addition to my monthly one). Can I tell you again how much I love my gym? Oh, of course I am paying for all these sessions - I make take advantage of their generosity, but I will pay my own way. Lttle Miss Independence, as my mother used to call me. I have also decided to cut in other areas and increase my massages to 2x a month, at least until after my marathon.

My workouts have been good - legs and shoulders Wed, chest and back today ( and Mon - with a lt of abs, too). Oh, and a Pilates mat class, today, too. Runs Mon, Tues and Thurs, Yoga Tues. Food has been good - wine has made it "not great", but certainly a lot of fun :D

I don't know what has happened to this week - I cannot believe it is Fri. I have been super busy every day this week (and night - maybe that has something to do with it), and today I am going to spend at least 2 hours on studying the NASM material. DH and I are having dinner with the couple who sit next to us at the baseball games. Sat is a 10 mile run and then we are having friends here for cards and dinner and Sun is ALL MINE - I see newspapers and coffee and magazines and NETFLIXS and no errands or shopping or laundry or ironing or cooking or bill paying or telephones or ... Ahhh


07-29-2005, 12:00 PM
Mel, what a totally psychotic day!!! Sounds like today is starting out much better. Hugs all around to Ilene, Shashenka and anyone else who needs one. Remember, that which doesn't kill us makes us stronger and we already know this board is full of some real strong chickas, right? RIGHT!!

I am in Tennessee now, got in last night around 7PM and ate a lot of carb stuff on the trip down and felt guilty, So..... I got to my moms house, pulled out the workout gear, grabbed my 10 nieces, nephews and kids and made them go to the track with me. The last time I ran on this track was 18 years ago, I was much lighter than I am now and of course, MUCH younger. That day I ran two laps, walked two and was wore out. Yesterday, despite the humidity, having been up since before 6AM, and spending 12 hours in a car, I was able to run 3 miles and then walk an additional half mile. 18 years ago, I could have done the same thing, but my willpower, sticktoitness, determination was not fully developed like it is today. I guess age DOES have its compensations.


07-29-2005, 01:49 PM

I am very happy to announce:
I have bought my very first pro dumbell set for use around da house. I went this morning to one of the major sportsstores around here (decathlon) and picked up a rather nice case which has a total of 44 pounds (20 kilo's) in 1 and 2 kilos and 2 dumbells. Not a lot of weight, but nice as a starters kit to help me out the next month at home. When I lugged the case one handed to the counter and put it on, the lady asked me if I could turn it around and if I needed anyone to help me carry the case.
So I said (rather smugly): no thank you, it's not THAT heavy anyway...
I still need:
1 barbell, 4x5 kilo weights and 4x10 kilo weights but this is for next month as I am going on holiday anyway for 2 weeks.

Brenda, that's exactly what I was thinking of when I started thinking about buying a set of dumbells.

2F, what did you get? no pink weights I hope!

No other news for now, so hugs to all, I'm working saturday (again) so I'll see y'all around then I hope.


07-29-2005, 02:45 PM
I'm afraid it's going to be a basic kit from Argos (catalogue store in the UK) when I get down there, probably not till Sunday! I think it's got 2.5lbs and 5lbs, 2 DB bars and one barbell. I just want the barbell so I can squat better!

Speaking of weights

:wl: GRUNT!

I must get to it. Feeling a bit sore today after KB but I'm sure once I bang some great music on, I'll be fine!

Lift you later girlies ;)

07-29-2005, 03:46 PM
....she'd had an orgasm while describing,:lol3::lol3: OMG too funny!!!... Sorry to hear of THAT hectic day, I got hyper just reading the post :hyper: I really should stop drinking that Tim Horton's coffee...

Ilene, I'm so sorry about losing your job! Damn (sorry)! Can you be fired so easily from your job? Here in France you need 3 misdemeanour letters + be sent home 3 times or something... :o OH MY I was not FIRED from my job :o !! That has never happened to me and never will... Being fired in Canada is usually because you have done horribly bad or done something against the law or company rules. I've been ''laid-off'' often, this is usually because the company you work for is not busy enough to keep you and you MUST be let go because there is just no work for you to do... THIS time around though I was ''bumped'' I'll try to explain... I am a school secretary... Here is what happened: School A in our system closed, so the secretary at school A who has a LOT of seniority, meaning that she has been with the school board for a thousand years was able to go take another secretary's job in school B , hence secretary at school B was able to go get another secretary's job at school C .... etc..... So they go down the list of secretaries and you can ''bump'' any secretary below your seniority ... WELL, moi, being so damn low on the totem pole has NO ONE below me that I can ''bump'' unless I travel more than an hour to a school which I am not willing to do and DH does not want me to do specially in the winter time... Our board is vast since 2 school boards amalgamated a few years ago... I stay on the recall list for 18 months, which is ok by me... I have a feeling anyways that the girl who bumped me will want to work full-time and my position was only part-time... This is probably WAYYYY more that you wanted to hear, but I just HAD to explain that I was NOT fired :lol: !! Being fired does not look good on one's work record :no:

Well I must get crakin' and goin' to the gym !!

So :wave: and :grouphug:s to all.... I'm off to the gym for back and biceps... and BTW my shoulder workout was awesome on wednesday I'm still felling them today... Mel I finally did that ab exercise with the barbell where you roll it out in front of you .... all I can say is OUCH I :love: it!!!

07-29-2005, 03:51 PM
I did it! Did my weights! I wussed out on a couple with lighter weights on one or 2 sets but hey, I'm still sore from yesterday! In all ways!

T'other half has just come home and grumped at me for being thirsty! He's a big boy and can buy his own drinks when he's out, it's hardly MY fault is it??????? MEN!

07-30-2005, 07:33 AM
Ok Ilene, now I understand. I am glad you explained because I had the impression that being fired in North America was someting that's very easy to do. I think that I know it as being "made redundant", which is quite different, I agree. Still no fun though.

Mel, you are 2 funny!

I thought up a fairly complete dumbell summer program (including "stair lunges" and "garden lunges" with 22 pound db's) but am short on inspiration for dumbell back exercises.
So far I've come up with the classic dumbell rows and db deadlifts, does anyone have some inspiration for something heavy AND more interesting with a 44 pound max??

2F, Good going! by the way, MY other half does exactly the same! When there's no beer in the house, he goes nuts! He mostly drinks it "Monaco" style, which is with mixed with grenadine syrup, which sounds gross but isn't bad at all. This is a kind of summery beery drink.

I also want a barbell, but I would have to get at least a 50 kilos (100 pounds) of weights with it to make it interesting in squatting, and at about 1 euro per kilo that makes (1 Euro = about 1.25$ and 0.65) 50 Euro's + 25 Euro's for a decent barbell extra on top of what I spent yesterday. I feel guilty already about spending extra money, so I'll save that for next month.

Have a wonderful weekend all with beautiful weather! No more tornado's I hope for the UK and no more hailstones the size of fists for France (no damage to the veg garden; but lots of water, which is good).

I saved a young pigeon yesterday, it was only slightly hurt and chased into the loo by one of the cats where it was flapping around losing feathers. I put it in a box with water and bread and in the shed for the night. In the morning it could fly again so I let it go. I think it's ok if the cats drag in something (dead) now and then, but I draw the line at squeeking living things being chased around the house.
I hope the pigeon has learnt from the experience (although it didn't seem very bright in the first place...), otherwse I might find a sad bunch of feathers one of these days.


07-30-2005, 05:26 PM
Warning! I'm gonna RANT!
Ya know that magazine "Looking Good Now" I think it's advertised right over there >>
There's an article in it "Simple exercises to help you lose 40 lbs without dieting"
You walk around the park ( 'that's 50 calories right there' in ten moinutes?????) and then do six exercises with two lb weights. "You can burn up to 395 calories with this simple but effective plan ...."
20 squats uses 75 cals????

Oh my livin' Lord .... if this was true, I should have disappeared long ago!

07-30-2005, 06:57 PM
I'd love to trash any and ALL of those stoooopid magazines!!! Let's go git 'em Susan :rollpin:

07-30-2005, 07:10 PM
We can email. I think I might!

07-31-2005, 02:32 PM
Good Sunday Afternoon LWL :wave:

I had an awesome workout today... I had done every body part this week so today I decided to do a full body workout but all core stuff. So I did some shoulder presses, DB chest presses, bicep curls and tricep extensions sitting on a ball... I was suprised at the difference... Then I did some lunges and squats on bosu balls. I also did some good mornings on a bosu ball now that's interesting to do :crazy:... Afterwards I did some hills on the treadmill for 30 minutes... so it's all good and I'm happy... Now I gotta get my food in check I'll start with one day under my belt but I must continue on for a while because I have now gained 6# because of lack of planning, I'm not happy with myself there :mad:

07-31-2005, 03:20 PM
Leike, its further south in North America where people get fired easily, in the US.

Ilene, good job on the full body. What is a good morning? Get those eats in line, you are looking to good to blow up.

Yeah those ads are real stupid. I saw an ad at my gym in Knoxville that talks about if you use their nutritional products and their trainers you can achieve your fitness goals with resistance training and light cardio. I couldn't believe it. Just a big ole stinkin lie!

I've gotten in workouts each day of my vacation. I did chest and cardio Friday, legs yesterday and a 3 mile run this morning. My food has been HORRIBLE but so far today, its been clean - probably cause I've only had an apple and bottled water so far - we will see how the day finishes up.


08-01-2005, 05:00 AM
Hooray! Did my lower body at half 6 this morning! :tired: Now that's dedication! I'm going to do my upper body this afternoon after work, cos we're going to a friends for dinner! Shall I be really anal and request cottage cheese and egg whites??? :rofl: