Good Morning ;) (It's really late Sunday night, but I know I won't get to this tomorrow morning.)
Today was supposed to be my day off from workouts, but dh and I lugged 2 couches out of the basement and two different couches into the basement, so I'm feeling like I did an arm, back and shoulder workout. I thought my arms were just going to come apart several times. At one point, it looked like dh might have to spend the rest of his life in the basement and I'd just throw food down several times a day. We managed to wedge the heaviest of the bunch, an old, old full sized sleeper sofa, into the stairwell. I can't remember how it got down there in the first place :o
I did well with food and both scheduled and unscheduled workouts this weekend :lol: Yay me! Also manage to pick away at the endless "to-do" list a bit, including planting the flats of dessicated marigolds that I bought 2 weeks ago. I hope the poor things survive.
Chest and spinning on Monday :dizzy:
Have a good one, LWL!
06-13-2005, 04:06 AM
hi Mel and the other LWL,
Mel - Neat trick to beat Ilene to start up the thread !! i hope you'll recover from the couch cardio.
Of to a new week. I have crawled out of my hole for the best part. I keep repeating myself that even though it is all incredibily small steps, in the end it WILL matter.
Yesterday I did 4 km on the treadmill, at a slightly higher speed. I did the run in the afternoon so this morning when I hopped on for my morning run my legs were like lead. Still I did another 4 km, and I think I'll stick to early morning from now on if at all possible.
Have a great week all,
06-13-2005, 06:45 AM
Hi LWL -
Mel - you have taken a whoel new approach to the "Couch Workout". Yikes! Hope you and DH are not feeling it too bad today. That was some off day!
Rabbit - I hear you on getting out of the hole. It is really one foot in front of the other. I am glad you are disciplined and committed and your daily workouts are helping me get to mine. Thank you.
I have not made any firm decsions on my goals. I do know that the weight numbers are not right, but do not know how to change my relationship to them. I feel like I have been told all my life that the weight number is the only acceptable scale to be graded on (sorry, no pun intended) and now finding out that is is not the only one and may not even be the best one. It is a hard thing to let go. I thought I could handle letting it go and move to the body fat % and measurements, but that didn't work too well for me, either. My reading has shown me from a health perspective that body fat % is the most important indicator of health. I do know that I want my overall weight/body fat/ BMI/ etc to be in the "healthy" range. I am happy to be out of "morbidly obese" and "obese" into the "overweight" range, as well as the changes in diabetes, blood pressure, cholesteral. anxiety and depression (seriously) - that is amazing progress. So, indecision it will be for a few days more.
Today is a 30 minute easy run and weights in my regular schedule plus my running assessment this afternoon. I am pretty excited about it and hope they can tell me what to do so my ankles stop hurting for 2 days after a long run.
Have a great day - I am glad this is a new week!
06-13-2005, 06:01 PM
Hey gang :wave:
I had a decent leg workout today but it was very slow going at first, I am so tired these days and lazy too, I'll blame it on the heat !! Food is ok but not perfect...
Ellen and Rabbit--*You are both doing exceptionally well , if the scale isn't moving right now it will eventually if you keep this healthy lifestyle up... don't you worry it's a dreaded plateau and eventually it breaks.....
MelL -- You are just too :strong: for your own good... Just don't hurt yourself :nono:
06-14-2005, 04:03 AM
Ilene, Ellenuw- too much compliments to me I am afraid. I have backslided again and fallen with an enormous BOIINNK into the hole. it seems deeper than ever. So today I plan for some mental cardio, to get me out of this so I can continue on plan in the next days.
Ellenuw - depression is serious. Been there, and still breathing deeply
Ilene, as you say somedays it is just about putting the one foot in front of the other.
I hope things are working out well with your dad.
Thanks for the support and have a great day all,
06-14-2005, 07:43 AM
I had a very nice weekend wity a nasty tail, On Sunday we celebrated the 50th birthday of a dear (American) friend. Het parents, both in their eighties, had come from Virginia (Lexington) and we had a bbq in their new house (and nice weather).
Downside: I had a mosquito bite that started itching and grew into a 6 inch red hard patch yesterday so I opted to go to my GP instead of gym. I got medication and had a good talk about some other stuff too. I got praise for training and we agreed to combine this with some therapy. We decided against medication (like xenical, which I won't touch anyway) and try this first in combination with sugar and thyroid tests. Small wonder I'm feeling relieved. I have a good relationship with this doctor as she is overweight herself (lost 45 pounds last year too), and knows what she's talking about.
Went to the gym today and met another nice person (she's Mexican) so had a nice chat while biking. GOOOD workout, I'm happy with myself.
4rabbit, you just start over, backslides are there to teach us someting: that we have to stay alert. So they're actually good for you. GO rabbit GO!
I had a bad patch the last few days. Now I'm up and running again (foodwise)
Poor Mel, watch out with carrying this kind of stuff! Why do we have men in the first place? Heavy weights and no brains (I hope DBF does not see this). I prefer to lift heavy weights than couches any day (says somebody who's moved 4 times in 4 years)
Ilene, I am thinking of you
Ellen, way to go on the 10K! Your goals will come to you all of their own. My advice would be to learn as much as you can about yourself and exercise, weights and foodplans. We're also here for any questions...
Scratch scratch scratch, nice day to y'all!
06-14-2005, 09:43 AM
Rabbit, chin up girl. If you beat on yourself then you make it worse so don't look backwards, look forwards to what you know you are capable of achieving.
Ilene, I feel you on the slow and lazy. Man, we got to shake that off.
Hi rest of the gang.
I am trying to get back on kilter. I had a bad food weekend, coupled with no workouts. Monday's food was okay, but could have been cleaner. Today I was walking into the office with a bag full of good food, two dollars and dreams of Pop-Tarts. I stopped mid-stride, went back to the car and put the money back cause I know I am running REALLY low on willpower today. If I don't workout tonight that will make 7 days with no exercise, which is bad, bad, BAD. I love summertime but HATE the havoc that it wreaks on my schedule. My goals for today are to 1) workout as SOON as I get home from cheer practice, 2) be in the bed by 10:30.
06-14-2005, 10:51 AM
Ah, Tiki, I did fall for some small marshmallows in a super mini bag, but combined with 30 min walk during lunchtime, I have a bag full of medicines (some homeopatic) to prove it. So I don't feel too bad about it. Tonight I will be extra good, feeding DBF extra and eating less myself.
DBF wants to gain 25 pounds and cannot, me, I have them extra...
06-14-2005, 12:52 PM
Ahh, Leike, men are so unfair. My DH eats and eats and never gains. On the other hand, he was getting the 45-spread before we started with personal training, and that is pretty much gone now. And he looks so good ...
Good luck to Tiki and Rabbit for getting back on track - I am reaching my hand out to you guys. Breathe in, breathe out, one step at a time. Showing up every day and being accountable to myself has been the only thing getting me through.
Ilene - *hugs* - remember to take care of yourself.
I think I feel this crap lifting. Did I ever tell you my yoga instructor is married to the ex-body builder who is going to review my food journal and help me set realistic goals? OK, now you know (love a small gym). So, she could tell I was not happy before our session. When I told her the results of my measurements, and the fact that I could not let it go, she freaked (but in that lovely, zen, way, of course). She said there was no way I was 31% and went to get her DH to measure me. So, "Big, Gruff Guy" (the original strong silent type) comes in with calipers and the book. I gotta tell you, this was the first time any one ever did this and it didn't hurt. So "Big, Gruff Guy" is amazingly gentle. Who knew? And my body fat was 28.5%, which would be a 1.5% decline over the quarter, rather than a 1% gain. I know that doesn't sound like much, but it meant the world to me. I wish these numbers didn't get me down so, but 22 years of statistics and project management make me want hard quantifiable measures. Yes, I need to learn to let go ...
Also, yesterday my trainer and I went to a physical therapy studio to have my running assessment done. It was a very thorough and interesting session, and I highly recommend it. The therapist examined my feet, ankles, legs, knees and hips. He had me stand and walk barefoot and again with shoes. Immediately he turned to my trainer and pointed out the problem and why my ankles were hurting so much. I have a severe pronation (sure hope I got that right) in the heel section of my foot, but not mid-foot or front. It is very dramatic. He then took me outside and video taped me walking and jogging on a trail from front, back and side and did the same inside on the treadmill. He said that most people have a different gait on trails vs treadmill, but I, surprisingly, was consistent on both. He also pointed out that I go too vertical in my stride - mostly from the hips. He then gave me and my trainer a list of exercise I could do to combat both issues and walked us both through them. I am so glad I took my trainer with me, as he asked a lot of good questions and worked with the PT to make sure we were doing them correctly. The PT also gave me a list of things to look for in shoes (and I thought gray was just a color). It was well worth he time and money.
Today I went into the gym to do my hill run on the treadmill and realized I was too hot and tired, so I did a hill walk instead and concentrated on things the PT told me - like pushing off from my big toe and engaging the glutes more. I could feel the difference.
So, I am not quite back to myself yet, but I can see I am not as far down as I was. These lows are quite scary - I have still not gotten over the fact that I emotionally understand how women fall into eating disorders, and it scares me. I look forward to my meeting with "Big, Gruff Guy" on Fri. I will say, overall, that food has not been an issue. I really feel I have changed my choices so much that junk is not in the house and not worth going out to get. On the other hand, no clear picture on goals - I will keep gathering information, hopefully, with a clearer head. Thank you all for sticking by me.
06-14-2005, 01:42 PM
Good going Ellen!
06-14-2005, 04:48 PM
Hello All you lifters!:wave:
Ive finally got the net at my place now, and Ive been consistent on my BFL workouts and eating and have been 'firming' up quickly!
Doing LBW this afternoon...looks like you ladies are keeping busy and committed to your workouts-way to go!:cheer:
Have a great day!
06-14-2005, 08:45 PM
Afternoon, LWL. I'm surfacing after a way-too-long break from working out. Also, from 2 crazy days at work. Our Summer Reading Program begins this week, and yesterday, the first day of registration week, we registered nearly 200 kids - a record for a first day. We typically see ~500 kids registered for the program, so I don't know if we're on the way to a record year, or they were just anxious! (Y'all do know that I'm a Library Director, right?) Anyway, we also had 600+ patrons yesterday. Typical Monday (when we're open til 8) is 350-400. Fortunately no one on my staff went postal and everyone got served. . .
Ellen, once I again I see an advantage to living in a larger population area. I would so love to have someone evaluate my gait (is that the right word?) I'd also love to find a PT who has some certification beyond "I've worked out for years, I can do that." I know it's a trade-off, but I do get tired of some of the drawbacks. :)
My break from exercise was due in large part to the stupid respiratory crud I had, but I'm also dealing with my DH's depression and insomnia. He's really going through a bad spell and getting really frustrated. Again, the small town thing comes into play. Not many docs to treat this type of illness, and things just aren't getting better with the one he's using. We have to wait til mid-August to get an appt with another one. Meanwhile they've changed his meds yet again. Dealing with him stresses me too, and I feel that I need to spend time with him. He seems a little better this week, and has plans for several days, so I may get to the gym. And whoever said depression was serious, is so right. In many ways, his cancer treatment was easier. At least the results were easier to define!
And eating. What is it with men that their metabolisms let them get away with so much?? Mine is trying to maintain 135, and would love to get to 140!! So would I, just from the other direction. :lol
Ah, not much to say here, just touching base. I do have my gym gear in the car, and will at least show up!
06-14-2005, 11:21 PM
Pat -- :grouphug: to you and ALL those stresses, good to see that your gym bag is packed and your determination is still there ... I have never known anyone with depression so I cannot imagine what you are going through, I wish you and DH well ...
Ellen -- Good golly I would LOVE to have my running assessed how cool is that?? I too live in a small community and it's a pain to find good Drs and other decently qualified folks... We usually go to Ottawa or Kingston or Brockville which are all over one hour away at least...
Tiki -- Today I was slow but not lazy :lol: I made it to the gym tonight at almost 7PM and I rarely go at that time but I had a good run 6.4k and it felt great, I didn't do any weights though... Tomorrow I'll work shoulders...
4rabbit -- How was was your mental cardio day?
GreekGirl -- Nice to see you're posting more, I love your posts...
Well it's getting late, see what late cardio does to me ?? I'm wired for sound and it's past eleven PM... I'm gonna suffer tomorrow :faint:...
06-15-2005, 05:55 AM
Many many thanks for all your support. The mental cardio went Ok and as a result I am again climbing out of the hole and not sliding back.
Tiki- Way to go with the workouts girl, did you manage to meet up with billy or go to the track yet ? Very good for you to put back the money and remove yourself from a potential difficult situation. I admire using a cunning plan if you cannot brass it out on sheer willpower.
Greekgirl-I hope you are feeling better. Is this doctor going to figure out the thyroid problem?
Ellenuw-Good for you for the BF% AND to get your running analysed. Did you also get advice on what running sho support etc is best with your gait ?
Ilene- good for you to get into the gym again !
Pat - I hear you on the depression issues. I was the one that said depression is serious, having been there and occasionally sliding back. I also found it very difficult to get good professional help. I can imaging that it will be very very long to wait untill mid august for your husband to get to speak to another professional. I myself benefited enormously from bibliotherapy. Being a librarian that might also be a possibility for you and your husband for the coming weeks. The books that I found very helpfull were: David Burns, "Feeling good", and "the feeling good handbook", and Jon Kabat - Zinn "Full catastrophe living". The books by Burns are about the nature of depression and what you can do to lessen it. The book of Kabat-Zinn describes the program that he does at the stress clinic, which basically centers about using meditation and body awareness to prevent your body from going into automatic stress mode ( which then can invoke depressive reactions)
I feel that I am back on track. I ran 7 kms today on the treadmill, and the running continues to feel better.
Have a great day all,
06-15-2005, 09:27 AM
Ellen, that is WAY cool. You are one lucky chick!
Leike, that is always the case with men. My brother struggled to gain 10 lbs to get in the Army, I had to struggle to get 10 off. Go figure.
Ilene, glad to see that you were NOT lazy. Not so great to be wired that late, but at least you got the workout in and that is what counts.
Hi to all the rest of the gang.
I made it to bed at 10:45 last night and was in the gym at 5:30 for shoulders. Back home for Tae bo and laundry and then to work riding an endorphin wave. I put together my sons weight bench this weekend so tonight I am having him work back and bis - very light weights. He is so excited. Last night he did chest and swore up and down that he was going to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger by the end of summer. I love his enthusiasm but I don't think benching 20 lbs is going to get him to his goal.
06-15-2005, 10:16 AM
Hullo! Some of you will remember me .... I'm lurking most of the time for reasons of time and space at present (no time and little head space) but I do hope to return more regularly.
To cut a long story short, my knee problems led me to a podiatrist (foot doc, I suppose, also known as a chiropodist in this country). She does more than corns and bunions, she also does sports injuries and gait analysis. Her analysis of my gait problem which didn't square, in her mind, with my great flexibility (!!! who me?) has led to what looks like a solution. Hurray! And I found her in this rural area!
So, my message to you rural and small-town dwellers (Pat, Ilene, others?) is that it might be possible to find gait analysis being done by someone like her in your area. Good luck!
Thanks for all your great posts, everyone. I really do value them when there's only time for me to read.
06-15-2005, 01:19 PM
Monday - agility with dog (I count it as cardio for sure or even interval training)
Tuesday - 30 km bike ride, UBW -woy, I can see muscles in my arms and abs! Never mind legs - one month of cummuting by bike to work and legs shape so nicely!
Wed - 30 km bike ride
Thursday - plan 30 km bike ride and 500m swim
06-15-2005, 01:36 PM
Hey Silver :wave: welcome back out of lurkdom... I did get a gait analysis a few weeks back by a great chiropodist in town here and it seems that I am ok. The analysis that I got wasn't as thorough as ellen's though...
Today I will work shoulders later...
06-15-2005, 02:28 PM
Good morning LWL! Thanks for your kind words in dealing with DH's problems. Ilene, our library has those books, I'll take a look. The doc is sure we're dealing with several problems here, hence the appt with a second doc. She's to do a lot more testing. And that appt has been moved up til end of July, and we're still on the cancellation list (i.e. someone cancels, she'll move us up) Meanwhile, we stumble along.
I DID get to the gym last night. Had a decent legs workout, and on checking my sheet I find it's only been 2 weeks I was away, not three. :) Didn't need to decrease the weight at all. Didn't do any cardio, but I'm planning to ride my bike tonight. It's gorgeous weather here, so as long we don't have thunder storms in the afternoon. . .
Hi Silver - I was thinking about you on Sunday. We had company over and were looking at our photos from our trip to England and Wales.
Hmmm, I have to make an appt with a podiatrist to deal with an ingrown toenail anyway, maybe I should find one who can do a gait analysis too? ;) Between that and an eye appt I can see a full day in Anchorage.
06-16-2005, 04:05 AM
Pat- glad to hear you are back on track
Sandy - the workouts sound great
I did 7 kms on the treadmill today. I had sore legs though, some days this is easier than others. Also the weather is great out here. Th forecast is for sunny and warm !!
have a great day,
06-16-2005, 06:17 AM
Oh, I feel like such a trend-setter :) I highly recommend you check out what is offered through your local resources as far as a gait analysis. Yesterday my Trainer imcoporated the exercises into my workout and I swear my ankles are not aching last night or this morning. I plan on doing a 30 min run this morning and hope it holds. Today is yoga day, too. I do feel better - not quite myself but gettign back. Soon, Ilene, you will be proud of me, again. ;) I feel like I have a rep to uphold here.
Ilene, Pat : hugs to you both. Welcome "home" Silver. Tiki - you and Billy stil hot and heavy? Hi *waves* to everyone else. Oh, and rabbit - what time do yu get up in the morning? I thought I was an EARLY riser until I see you here, already finished your workout. :dizzy:
I am hoping to be back on top (or close to it) by Mon. I have has some personal issues besides the weight/body fat issues going on, too. One got crossed of my "list" yesterday and lifted a ton of weight from my shoulders. I expect one more to go by this weekend and another by Wed of next week. Hopefully the last will be gone by the middle of next month. These things would not normally hit me so hard individually, but the cumulative effect, plus that stupid measurement, were just too much, I guess. Regardless, today is a new, beautiful day. I stood by my exercise committments and ate pretty clean. Last night there was a live Jimmy Bufett concert on Sirius satellite radio and you just can't be blue through that!
06-16-2005, 09:02 AM
Yes, Ellen, I'm still busy with Billy. I got up this AM, worked chest and tris and then got it goin on with Mr. Blanks. I'm glad your ankles are doing better. You want this so much so anything that helps you achieve your goals is a GREAT thing. Keep up the good work. You really are a motivator.
Food yesterday was pretty clean, but not enough of it. I'm getting tired of the protein shakes so I have to find a way to change them up so they will appeal to me again. Missing the shake put my total calories for the day at only 941 with a PCF percentages of 49/42/10. I also got the shock of my life this AM when I realized that I was UPSET cause I am totally out of spinach! Past Tiki would be upset if she were out of syrup. I guess my life really is changing for the better!
06-16-2005, 12:30 PM
had a day off from work yesterday, So I devoted myself to exercise and housework. Was very happy with the result, because I am getting stronger fast and have to up the pounds regularly, even though I do a lot of reps (15-20) I was throwing out 3x15 reps at 100 pounds on the squat like I was bouncing around like a frog. Aaah, THAT made me happy.
Ate my first HOME GROWN organic zucchini, about 5 inches long. I consider this a feat, as I have never even tried gardening before now + anything I tried at home used to die on me...It tasted twice as good for that!
Today, I went for back and chest work and stretching before work, I was feeling so relaxed afterwards (ZEN, as the French say) that I felt I was floating on a cloud. Even nasty customers couldn't get me off there, haha.
Food: healthy but some liquorice, imported from the Netherlands, Liquorice Heaven (hundreds of different kinds, all small size thank God)
Pat, my DBF is also very low at this point, and besides, he's too cool to go to his GP. I try to pamper him, (always saying that I do so and why), flatter him, and do things together other than shopping in the mall, like now badminton or just stimulate him to do anything he might like on a "like it or not" basis without pressure. Also, I have been using relaxation techniques to get him a bit more relaxed after work and about household (read: money) issues. I was in a depression about a year ago (no medicine, they don't like the side effects here), so I know what it feels like.
Ilene, I love posting and sharing our experiences, everytime I am forced to lurk I miss them.
Rabbit, I guess so, we still have to do new tests. My GP says that the thyroid problems could also be connected to my mental state (which I believe could be a reason) and a genetical disposition (family thing). Way to go on the treadmill.
The only reason I can still jog (although my extra weight doesn't help me) is because I run correctly, which minimizes pressure on the knees. I used to do 15 K, though, so now I feel bad when 5K is too much.
Tiki, about the workbench, that's so funny, how old is your son? I wish I had some equipment at home, but still, our gym is nice so it's also a kind of French learning, socializing thing (besides SERIOUS training).
Hello Silverbirch, I was wondering where you were, nice to see you again!
Bye to everyone for now, or you'll get tired of reading....
06-16-2005, 01:53 PM
Sorry I have been MIA this week. We had no internet for two days, and I've just felt swamped the rest of the week. School ends tomorrow and I'm already beyond pulling my hair out with what to do with my son who has no interest in anything other than video games and (luckily) books. He won't even emerge to eat. Tiki, having a son whose goal is to look like Arnold would be such a treat! I've tried to get him lifting and it's pure torture for both of us :(
Hello Silverbirch :wave: Nice to see you again.
Pat- Glad you are feeling better and back to plan. Best wished with your dh.
Lieke- Congrats on your garden. I used to have huge vegies gardens, but where we live now, I'd just be growing a big buffet for the deer. It's to depressing to bother. I really missed fresh picked, home-grown food, 'tho. I do remember having soooo many zucchinis I was begging neighbors to take them :lol:
Ellen- Good for you for pulling through what has been a rough time.
OK, gotta go do cardio and chase down the roofers that were supposed to be here finishing my house at 7:30 this morning. Grrrr......
06-16-2005, 06:34 PM
Ah, Mel, wish you were closer, I'd give you zucchini! :) We used to have a HUGE veggie garden (like 50'x60'), but cut it in half about 4 years ago. Part of it is taken up with rhubarb, strawberries and raspberries, but still it's plenty large for 2 people who live where many things can't be grown. This year we have cabbage (red and green), lettuce, peas (snap and regular), beets, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini and carrots. Plus a greenhouse with tomatos, cukes and basil. This is all fine until late August when everything needs harvesting! :eek: Anyone feel like a vacation to Alaska at the end of summer???
06-17-2005, 02:31 AM
Hi all! good morning!
I just lost my post that I'd just posted so here goes again:
Mel, I never though it'd be that easy, stuff just keeps growing here, you only have to weed and water. As my great grandfather used to say: give me **** and water and I'll grow you anything you want...
Waterrat, can I come visit you, I feel like a long swim anyway!
06-17-2005, 06:52 AM
Getting back on track here. Weather forecast is nice for a change, we will have SUN this weekend !!!
Ellenuw - Where I live I do not get up very early each morning, but I do live in the netherlands, aka "Liquorice Heaven"
Tiki - Good to hear you're still with mr Blanks and the track !
Mel - Good luck with your son. Our schools will be out in 3 weeks. My son seems to be addicted to the PC. Luckily he also plays the guitar in between. We just planned a fairly long holiday trip to norway, with a borrowed camper. We'll probabely take the guitar but NOT the PC, so he will have to amuse himself in some other way.
Pat , GG - good luck with the cheering and mind you also take some time for yourself !
I did 6 kms on the treadmill today, followed by 20 mins of stretching & relaxation. Try to get some of the stiffness out of my legs and my lower back. I creack and crack when I move.
have a great day,
06-17-2005, 11:32 AM
Rabbit, 20 minutes of stretching and relaxation? Man, I wouldn't last more than 5 minutes before I was up running around and doing something else. Too hyper for relaxing most days. Good for you! I think I would be in much better shape if I took the time to relax and stretch out my body parts.
Hi rest of the gang!
I overslept so I didn't make it into the gym for my back workout but I did get in an hour of cardio. So after cheer practice, I will dash to the gym and get that workout in. Healthy food is in the fridge at work, sun is out, I'm ready for the weekend.
06-17-2005, 04:04 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome back. Today's been an exercise-free day with a sick child. But tomorrow is another day. Tomorrow is Legs.
06-18-2005, 04:04 AM
Good morning everyone,
Had a wonderful evening yesterday. Let DBF beat me with badminton, went to the gym (got compliments on visible progress by the guys, good sign), had a nice long talk sitting on the veranda with DBF (no bugs to speak of here), and got another present, a chewed up mouse at 3 AM, courtesy of Bernard our tomcat. The scrunching sounds under the bed woke me up. I had to drag it away from him, then praise him, too. DBF just went on sleeping (like always)...
Today I work and it's warm here, so we all got to work less than formally dressed. Did you know the real cliche blonde exists? She works with me and apart from fitting better in the part than Reece Witherspoon she's really hard not to like, although she drives you crazy sometimes. Favorit subjects: Clothes, BF, clothes, BF...
Rabbit, did you say you live in the Netherlands? I was born there, in Nijmegen. I used to go to school in Leiden! I'm actually Dutch besides Greek too.
Tiki, I have a hard time getting DBF relaxed, he always wants to do someting, get up sit down, run here and there etc. I am also very active, but he's got ants in his pants all the time!