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05-25-2005, 09:12 PM

What we really want in a weight loss support group, boils down to one concept; we are looking for a sanctuary.

Sanctuary means different things to different people. Sanctuary is a place of peace, rest, safety, and rejuvenation. It keeps our spirit and our sanity intact.

Many of us who have a long journey down the weight loss path find ourselves in need of a break. Sometimes our bodies crave it, and sometimes the choice isn't ours, but circumstances forces it upon us. Other times, we need the clamoring throng to cheer us along our way as we breeze past milestones and overcome obstacles.

Sanctuary can be all that as well. It is what you need and when you need it. Sanctuary can be found in good friends who aren’t afraid of your truths and in an open, honest atmosphere.

Sanctuary isn’t judgmental, neither does it discriminate or ask to be censured. It is open to anyone with a desire to share, and especially those in need of and willing to offer support

05-25-2005, 09:14 PM
I love your idea Gloria - I really need that exercise push. I have been slacking since I had to take that dreaded class and test - jeez almost for a month so I really need to get back in the saddle.

I have to type up some stuff for work and then I shall return. ;)

05-25-2005, 09:59 PM
When should we start the challange? Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Saturday?????

Tricia, Awwwww that is something to be proud of - being nice and helpful - Will is a good example of what more people should be.


So my question is, who put the hooded robes on the first graduating student? Inquiring minds want to know!! :lol:

Here is something to spur on weight loss. Read this in one of those magazines I actually paged through.

"Women who are obese throughout their adult life are more likely to lose brain tissue - increasing the risk of Alzheimer's disease - compared with women of normal weight."

I find this interesting as the three women where my Dad is in the nursing home that have Alzheimer's are all slim. :shrug: They must not have been part of the study!!!! BUT it did scare me when I read this!!!

Okay - speak up on the day to start the challange - Gloria's idea is good for me! How about you?

To welcome you back home, Gloria

5 dogs
05-25-2005, 10:56 PM
I may not be around much tomorrow because i have a doctors appointment to see what the problem is this time with my neck. So, anyone interested in a story about my mother? Hope so because here goes.

It was the second night that Jamie, MIL, mother and myself had been around each other 24 hours a day and i guess the thrill of the adventure was beginning to wear thin. We were staying in a Howard Johnson motel so the room was nice, but the windows did not open and the air conditioning had to be left on all the time. I had fell asleep on one of the beds while my three roommates were still up and getting ready for bed. I can sleep through anything if I'm tired enough so any noise they made was not a problem for me. I don't know how long i had been asleep, but when i woke up i was covered in sweat and realized that there was no hum of the air conditioning, so i got up to check on it. It had been turned off and the room was getting very stuffy, so i turned it on but set it on low just in case someone was cold. A few minutes later after i got back in bed, the hum stopped again. My eyes pop open to see my mother getting back into bed after turning it off. In the morning i asked Jamie and MIL if they were hot or was it just me? Both of them said they had trouble sleeping because the room was so stuffy. I know this is just one little thing and to you i probably sound petty and childish, but I've lived with stuff like this my whole childhood and the message she keeps sending me is, "What you feel, want or need is not important to me. The next night i told her to get another blanket for her side of the bed if she was cold because the rest of us were hot.

Have to get a shower and clothes ready for tomorrow so will say so long for now.

05-26-2005, 04:29 PM
Gloria, no offense, but it is you mother who was behaving like a child. And try not to take her actions too personally. There were two other people in that room whose comfort and feelings she neglected. When people we love do these things it feels like a personal attack. But if you step outside the box and peep back in you will see that they tend to be disrespectful to everyone. It is THEIR shortcoming, not YOURS. We all tend to take responsibility for other people's hurtful actions but, especially in this case, you owe it to yourself to keep her accountable for her behavior.

Now, about this exercise challenge. I need it. I don't want it. I have been lacking motivation for exercise and that is the reason I haven't responded your idea yet. I have to be honest, I'm just really tired of pushing myself. But, then I realized that's the point of a challenge - to give us a reason to push a little harder. So, count me in.

I've been on a rollercaster of emotions toward weight loss these days. Part of the problem is that 214 pounds seems so far away right now. For a while there I could look in the mirror and see such a huge difference in my appearence that I stayed on top of my game. I'm still dedicated to this lifestyle but I've been in this weight range for long enough that I don't compare it to the 214 pound me anymore. So, all of a sudden, I feel as bad about myself at 155 as I did at 214. Mentally, 155 feels as fat as 214 did. Very self-defeating. And I know it is ridiculous. And I am slowly but surely working through it. Although I can't say for sure I suspect that this is how I've managed to regain any weight I've ever lost. But, I am aware of it now and can fight back. I know nothing about the way I live will change once I reach my goal weight. I'll still have to count calories, I'll still have to exercise whether I feel like it or not. I know these things. As much as I hate to put so much stock into a number on the scale I am very anxious to reach 135 so that I can stop the emotions involved with wanting to see the scale move. And what is even more asinine is that I AM seeing the scale move, I AM seeing inches fall away. Why on Earth does it seem like I'm not? That one I can't figure out.

With all of that said you'd think I'd want to push, push, push, and blow through these last 20 pounds. Nope. And I'm not sure why that is. I know that is what I SHOULD want to do. I find myself wondering if there is something that makes me afraid to reach my goal. But I can't imagine what that would be.

So, give me the whens and where's of our challenge. I'm ready when you all are. Goodness knows I need the boost of being kept accountable for getting of my rear end.

Have a great day!


5 dogs
05-26-2005, 09:05 PM
Tricia, to me it sounds like part of your brain is afraid to succeed. I am speaking from my own personal experience. I have lived with my weight problem since i was in my teens and altho i have tried so many times to loose the weight, just as I'm getting close, something inside of me wont let go of the one thing that has stuck by me through thick and thin. FAT! Some people wont try new things because there afraid of failing, i think in your case part of your brain is afraid of succeeding. I think its part of accepting the unknown. Why do some people hate other people just because they look or act different from themselves? Why do people start projects and never finish them? Part of the brain says "I don't know what life will be like if i succeed or accept something new, so maybe i should stay right here where i know if safe.

Went to the doctor today and she told me i have a pinched nerve in my neck that has become inflamed. I am now taking steroids and a muscle relaxer. I slept for four hours this afternoon after started taking them. Hope the steroids don't make me grow a beard and mustache. I hope this works because i cant go through the pain again.

I think we should start the new challenge on Monday and go through Friday. Saturday and Sunday is very laid back at my house so i kinda take it easy over the weekend. Just my opinion. Anything the rest of you want to do is fine with me.


05-26-2005, 09:26 PM
[QUOTE]Hope the steroids don't make me grow a beard and mustache. [QUOTE] Gloria, I was going to ask for a picture but you must have suspected as much because you already posted one!!! :lol:

I haven't been a very good poster - mostly just tired.

How about we start our challange on Tuesday May 31st?????

On or before that date post your "objective" for the week. If you want, on June 7th we can all post our accomplishment and I will keep track.

I guess I am thinking I would like to do this exercise challange for a month or so - however long it takes to make it a habit!!!!! :yes:

So I will keep track if ya all want - didn't I sound Southern????? :)

Well, I will post more tomorrow night - I was in my car driving from 7AM to 4PM and it has taken a toll on me ! :(

Tricia, hang in there we will help you lose those last few pounds no matter what it takes.

05-27-2005, 11:01 AM
Gloria, I think you are exactly right. I've focused on this "magic" number and now that I am close to it I can't help but be concerned that it still won't be good enough. So, there is a part of me that reasons that if I don't succeed in getting to my goal than I can't fail once I'm there. I know it is silly and a rotten attitude so I am working on it. I have to keep telling myself that 135 might not end up being my ultimate goal but it will still be better than where I am now. I have a problem getting a little too ahead of myself. Thank goodness, though, that at least this time I don't have any desire to sabotage myself to the point of giving up all together and letting myself regain any weight. I am perfectly fine on the food front and don't have any concern at all about not eating healthily the rest of my life regardless of weight. I feel so much better and don't worry that I'm a walking heart attack waiting to happen.

Now, about our challenge. I went ahead and started mine today because I was afraid not to buckle down before my attitude got even worse. Boy, am I glad I did! For the record, my challenge is to get up early and get my exercise done before Greg leaves for work. This means getting up at 4:30 so that I can get dressed and be at the gym by 5:00, do 50 minutes of cardio and about 45 minutes of weights (every other day). This is a big deal for me because I am NOT at morning person. But, I pulled myself out of bed this morning and went. It was AWESOME! It made me realize that I'm not tired of pushing myself during my workouts. What has me so warn out is trying to juggle everything and everyone and fitting the workouts into my day to begin with. Every single day has been a balancing act between school, karate, dinner, housework, etc. so when I finally felt like something had to give exercise was the first thing to be taken out of the schedule. If I can make myself do it in the morning then the rest of my day is freed up. Plus, it will be nice not to have to take 2 showers each day! Heck, maybe our water bill will even drop a little. So, I would like to push myself to do this Monday-Friday for the next two weeks. I think that will be long enough to develop a routine. At that point, I'll figure out which days will be my regular days. There are still some classes that I like to go to in the afternoons so I'll probably do the morning workout 3 days a week and then on Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays I'll just do the 45 minute class. Sundays will be a little cardio and some swimming topped off with a little time in the whirlpool and sauna. Sounds like a plan to me!

We are off this morning to by swimsuits for the kids. It is sure to be a nightmare. I should have taken them one at a time over the past few weeks but didn't. Now the pool opens tomorrow and nobody has a suit that fits. We've got a forecast of rain tomorrow so maybe I'll be able to buy a little time and just get Addie's today and then take the boys in the morning. There is nothing like a little procrastination!

Have a great day!

05-27-2005, 01:22 PM
Hey everyone :)

Gloria, good to see you back! Thanks for posting the pictures. :)

I'm up for an exercise challenge, but can we do it Monday to Monday? I usually try to work in something on Saturday and take Sunday off. My goal is to do at least 30 minutes of exercise 5 days this next week. I'm planning 3 days of Curves and at least 2 of water aerobics (it starts up again next week!).

I've got to get my food logged from last night and then get to bed. If I don't do it now, I'll probably put it off and off until I just give up and work on the next day. :lol:


5 dogs
05-27-2005, 05:05 PM
I don't think it makes a difference when each of us starts the exercise challenge, but i do think we should have an ending point. I made a spreadsheet for one week and will keep it posted in all my post so all you have to do is copy and past it, then enter how much exercise you want to do for that week. The second column is for how much exercise you actual did that week. I tend to make things more complicated then they need to be, so if you don't want to keep track of the exercise challenge this way, then thats okay with me.
This is what i hope to do this coming week.

Here is a blank one for you to copy and paste.

05-28-2005, 08:47 PM
Have you ever done something that you knew was a mistake from the get go but you went ahead and did it anyway?

Well, Addie asked to invite some of the little girls from down the street over for a picnic tea party and she wanted to have chocolate cake. For obvious reasons my initial answer was no (to the cake, not the party). Well, she persisted and I finally realized that she shouldn't miss this opportunity just because I don't trust myself with a cake. So, I gave in and she and I along with one of the little girls baked a chocolate cake. We really had a big time.

Now, for me, this is no ordinary chocolate cake. It is the chocolate cake the I grew up on. My mother and my grandmother used this recipe. It is rich, fudgey, and DIVINE. I decided I would outsmart the situation by cutting it in half and making a two layer cake (the original is a sheet cake). I figure at least this way there are fewer servings and it is gone sooner thus less temptation to me. I decided I would have one small piece, force feed the rest of it to friends and family and have it out of here in less than a day.

Guess what? I licked the frosting spoon and it was soooo good but soooo rich. It made me not even WANT a piece of the cake. About 3.4 of it is left and I haven't had the slightest urge for a slice. Wierd. Really wierd. Don't get me wrong. I still plan to have a small piece at some point but it isn't inspiring the huge binge that expected. I have to say that I'm feeling pretty proud of myself. Not for passing up this particular cake but for having this "new" lifestyle be second nature. I mean, I fully expected to skip the plate and just pull up a chair with a fork in hand. And it was a needless worry. Good for me, huh?

Anyway, it made me realize how improved my relationship with food has become. I still have issues with my weight, diet, etc. but nothing even close to what I once dealt with. Makes me feel good about myself and so I wanted to share.

Hope you are all doing well. Our pool opened today so I may be scarce for a week or so (it will take a while for the kids' excitement to wear off) but I'll be checking in as often as I can. Have a great weekend!


5 dogs
05-29-2005, 11:47 AM
You get a gold star, Tricia. also have a fantastic recipe for chocolate cake that i make for Carl. Extremely hard to resist and i cant stop at just one piece.

Nothing much is going on around my house today. Carl is off tomorrow and MIL might come over for dinner, (maybe). I did start my exercise challenge yesterday and went swimming and rode old blue around the block a couple of time.

So where is everyone? Come out, come our where every you are.

05-29-2005, 02:03 PM
I tried posting yesterday but when I hit post it locked up my computer. By the time I had everything working I was tired and went to bed. :^:

I spent Friday night and Saturday planting, mowing, raking, trimming - and was tuckered out last night.

Today one of my nephews graduates so that is how my day will go - sitting around talking to people. Good thing my SIL is a terrible cook so no worry about over eating! :D

I will start my exercise later today. I have been toying with my goal in my head but haven't made a solid decision.

I am disappointed, Gloria. I see you had old blue out and not ONE story from you. Are you two hanging around in boring neighborhoods?

Later, Have a good Sunday.

05-29-2005, 03:36 PM
Wouldn't you know it. The pool finally opens and we have a forecast of a week's worth of rain.

Thanks for the star Gloria. I had my piece last night and it was really good but not good enough to keep eating it and ruin any chance of losing weight this week! I did put it in an opaque tupperware container and stick it in the back of the fridge though - just to be sure I'm not tempted to pick at it. It is the stragest thing to still EXPECT to eat like my old self and then NOT eat like my old self. I would give anything to know who, what, when, where, and why that switch got flipped. I certainly didn't notice it happen. The funny thing is that I lost 40 or so pounds two years ago. I remember precisely that a piece of this cake was the very first thing I ate when I started to slip and regain. A friend of mine from junior high emailed me and asked for the recipe (she remembered my mom making it). I sent it to her and then just couldn't shake the craving for it. So, I made one feeling VERY confident that I could eat one piece and be done with it. I only had one piece alright. But after that I nearly forked the thing to death with a bite here and a bite there. I ended up having to put the last 1/4 of it down the disposal. But, it was too late. The old, familiar cycle had already begun and I had that 40 pounds loaded on in no time.

I did have something super yummy today for lunch. I picked our first four peppers from the garden this morning. I made a stuffing of rice cooked in chicken broth, spices, and a few grape tomatoes. I sauteed a little whole kernal corn, black beans, onion, jalepenos, and chili powder. Mixed the two together and stuffed the peppers. Topped each one with a tablespoon of Tostitos Con Queso and popped them in the oven util the queso was hot. Boy, were they good. And very filling I might add. It was one of those "gotta use up the leftovers before they go bad" meals. I LOVE fresh vegetables and can't wait until our first tomatoes ripen!

I am off to the gym to fill today's exercise quota for our challenge. I'm going to have my measurements taken too so if I have any good news I'll be back to post it.

Enjoy your Sunday!

5 dogs
05-29-2005, 05:41 PM
Sorry Lucky, the spreadsheet i made is for this coming week. This past week i was in St. Louis for my DIL's graduation. Don't have any good stories to tell of my trip because most of then are all bad and i don't want to sound like I'm constantly complaining and nitpicking.
I just remembered one funny story to tell you. My DIL's mother (See picture, far left)
was telling us about when she was a little girl, her and her sisters would play real or not real. One of them would get under the covers and crawl to the foot of the bed. That person would make a noise like a fart and the rest of the had to guess if the noise was real or not. It was funny when she told it. I guess its one of those things you just had to be there.

Yesterday i did get into the pool at the Y and started water walking but was getting a little board. The pool is outside and i was thinking about getting out and going home when i spotted a little water bug floating on top of the water. When i tried to get close to the bug it would move, so i started chasing it and was just having a gay old time trying to catch this bug and water walking at the same time. I guess it got tired of me chasing it because it flew away, but i did get a good workout.

Even though i have started my exercise challenge, I'm going to start reporting on it tomorrow. What day do you want to have as an ending?


05-29-2005, 06:32 PM
Oh, boy am I excited! In the past month I've only lost 2.6 pounds. Seems pretty crappy. BUT...I've lost 7.5 inches! WooHoo! I am proud of myself. That is a total of 34.5 inches gone for good since I started Back in January. I am now officially sold on the powers of weight training. So, here are my stats comparing a 214 pound me to a 155 pound me:

Arm 14.5 to 11.5
Bust 44 to 39
Waist 38.5 to 32
Stomach 44 to 35.75
Hips 44 to 37.5
Thigh 24 to 21
Calf 18 to 15.75

05-29-2005, 11:23 PM
Congrats, Tricia. GREAT numbers.

Gloria, should the challange be per week? I think for exercise to have a goal each week would be good. Okay with the rest of you?

Gloria my family plays a form of "real or not real" too. You make a circle with each person standing behind an object. It doesn't matter what the object is it's just designates a place. Then one person is in the middle, so there is actually one more person than there is places to stand. The person in the middle, that person is "it", and makes a statement. Like I am a blond. If the other people think the statement is true they stay put but if they think the statement is a lie they have to move to another spot - the goal of the person in the middle is to take a spot from someone who had one.

Anyway, one time my nephew, about 6 at the time says, "I eat my buggers". His Mother says, "you do not", and he says, "oh, yes I do".

We still talk about the game that year!!!!

I just got home from my nephews graduation. His older brother brought his rock band so that was noisy. I can still hear them playing from here. Actually my nephew is a very good drummer so it's fun to watch them play.

Some of my aunts and uncles were there so we got to visit and catch up.

As predicted - I didn't eat much. A piece of cake and not a whole tablespoon of potato salad. So I think I will have some turkey and cheese now.

Do you all go to parades and things on Memorial Day?

5 dogs
05-30-2005, 09:26 AM
Happy Memorial Day everyone. Carl is off today and is still sleeping. If there was such a thing as a professional sleeper, Carl would be a good candidate. Yesterday he took two naps and watched nascar. Yuck! Don't have any plans to do anything special today, but sleeping all day long is not for me.

For those of you interested, I think we should start today logging what exercise we want to do for the hole week. I think i said i wanted to do water aerobics at 6:30 P.M. tonight. Well i forgot about Memorial Day and the pool closes at 3:30 and I'm not sure if there are any classes. Will still go swimming, just a little earlier.
Also, Saturday is a good ending point.

I am so very very tired of being fat and i desperately need all your help in my uphill climb again. Come on ladies, lets get excited over this new challenge. Lets win one for the gipper.

Good for you Tricia. Keep up the good work. I know the rest of us will be right behind you in loosing weight.

Have to start this day and will go for now. Talk to ya'll tonight.

05-30-2005, 10:25 AM
I am so very very tired of being fat and i desperately need all your help in my uphill climb again. Come on ladies, lets get excited over this new challenge. Lets win one for the gipper.

ME TOO, Gloria.

My problem right now is I have these defeatist (sp) thoughts. I know that is not good and I know it is just a way to NOT even try.

So, Gloria & Andria, we can help each other while Tricia shows us the way.

I did weigh in this morning and take measurements. I am up 3 lbs but considering I haven't been watching what I eat or exercising in a couple months, I am counting my blessings it isn't more.

I also made a goal list last night, which is a first for me. I will post it later.


05-30-2005, 01:52 PM
Lucky, I don't consider myself a leader by any stretch of the imagination. But, I think I would do a great job of cheering you guys on. Of course, I've still got a long way to go myself so I am still in the ring too!

Maybe we can talk each other thorough our defeatest thoughts. If I had to pick the one thing that I struggle with the most those negative thoughts are it. I think the important thing is that we are aware of them - at least we can identifiy them for what they are when they rear their ugly heads.

We have no big plans for Memorial Day. We are having really yucky weather and are pretty much stuck inside. It is supposed to be like this all week so I think I am going to take the kids to see Madagasgar (sp). Other than that we may entertain ourselves with y'alls real or not real game.

Gotta go get lunch for the kids. Have a great holiday!


05-30-2005, 02:18 PM
After my last post I pulled out my Dr. Phil book.

Change your thinking to change your weight. Get rid of self-defeating thought patterns, believe that you will succeed, and you will have mastered the first key necessary to overcome your struggles with your weight. As you begin to think differently, you will succeed and you will maximize your life.

This is SO me. Somehow I have decided I can't do this. It will never happen.

Dr. Phil says we all have something called our "personal truth".

This is whatever you, at the absolute core of your being, believe to be true about yourself.

I have to really think about this. I apparently have never gotten to the "core" of myself on this. :(

Hmmm, the word unworthy just popped in my head. It's a starting point.

Off to exercise YES you heard me!!!!
:tread: :workout:

05-31-2005, 10:35 AM
I'm stopping in to report my challenge progress. I made it to the gym again this morning and did 35 minutes of cardio and weight for about 45. I feel GREAT! Getting up so early is tough but it sure is worth it. I LOVE having a specific time set aside for my exercise instead of having to work it in between everyone else's schedule. I even had time to swing by the grocery store and pick up a few things we needed - didn't take long without three kids on my heels. LOL. I might just find that I am a morning person after all!

I'm off to scrounge up some breakfast. Hope everyone has a successful day!


05-31-2005, 09:20 PM
Who likes pizza? We made this for dinner tonight and it is so good and easy. I hadn't made it in a while and had forgotten how much we all like it. Thought you guys might like to try it.

1 package (2.25 teaspoons) yeast
1 teaspoon sugar
1 cup warm water
2 1/2 cups AP flour (I've used 1/2 wheat flour and it works fine, or bread flour which gives a breadier, chewier crust)
1 teaspoon salt
2 Tablespoons olive oil

Dissolve yeast and sugar in water until creamy, about 10 minutes. Stir in flour, salt and olive oil. Mix well until a dough forms. Drizzle to coat slightly with olive oil (optional). Cover and let rest for five minutes. Press into pan or pizza stone and cook for 10-15 minutes in a 450 degree oven (you can freeze or refrigerate at this point if you like). Top and bake until cooked to desired doneness.

I let mine rest much longer than five minutes but only because I usually make it ahead of time. This makes a lot of dough - half of it I split between the kids to make 3 personal sized, original-type crusts. The other half is divided between Greg and I - he puts his in a pie pan for a slightly thicker crust, I press mine thinly in a cake pan for a crispy crust. Made with AP flour a quarter of the crust has 378 calories, 8 grams of fat, 64 grams of carbs, and 11 grams of protein.

8 oz can tomato sauce
6 oz can tomato paste
1/4 teaspoon oregano
1/4 teaspoon dried parsely
1 teaspoon minced garlic
1/2 teaspoon garlic salt
1/4-3/4 teaspoons sugar (I use 1/2 teaspoon)

Mix it all up and that is it. I use this on pizza, as a breadstick dip, and for cheese sticks. The whole batch has only 142 calories and no fat.

If you give them a try let me know how you like them.

Have a great night!


05-31-2005, 09:32 PM
Hi there...'member me? Mind if I return to the fold after my self imposed exile? I'm feeling like I'm 'in a better place' (geez, I sound like a mental patient!) now and can contribute here as well as follow some sort of plan for myself.

I quickly skimmed over this current the pictures, Gloria! I'm up for any challenge, so I hope you don't mind me coming along for the ride.

I have lots more to share, but I have to work tonight, so I need my beauty (hah!) sleep. I will be back tomorrow!

06-01-2005, 05:26 PM
Is it my breath?


06-01-2005, 09:25 PM
That is funny, Kat. I figured it must be MY breath! LOL.

I made it to the gym again this morning so I am on track for our challenge this week. It feels great - I wish I had been making myself get up and go in the morning all along. It sure makes my day a lot less hectic.

We did the summer thing tonight - BBQ chicken, sweet corn on the cob, baked beans, etc. I am happy to report that I controlled myself despite REALLY, REALLY, wanted to get second helpings of everything. If I don't do anything else well, I rock on the grill. I knew I wasn't hungry though, so I forced my way from the table. I have to admit it scared me a little bit. There have been times when I WANTED more to eat but I didn't put much consideration into it and it was relatively easy to talk myself out of it. Tonight, though, I almost dug in. I fixed my plate, looked at it and realized that I had more than I needed so I put half of it back. What scared me was not knowing for sure whether I it was just especially good and I was especially hungry or if I was falling off the wagon so to speak. It felt good to maintain control. I'll have to make a point to remember that it felt better to make my own decision about what I put in my mouth than to let the food dictate what to eat.

Gotta run - all three kids need baths and hair washings after eating BBQ!

Hope you all have a chance to check in soon.


5 dogs
06-02-2005, 11:00 AM
I am so frustrated with doctors, lawyers, and blood sucking insurance people i could just scream!:censored: I think i told you about painting one of the bedrooms last month when Carl and i were on vacation in our GA home and my neck started hurting again? Well, after making an appointment to see my doctor, my lower back also started hurting and when i went to see her about my neck, i told her about my back. The doctor said "I can't look at your back because its not included as part of the car accident law suit, but if you want to make another appointment for your back, then i will be able to see you then. Her office is in Palm Harbor and the only way to get there is to take Hwy19. Down here people have bumper stickers that say 'Pray for me, i drive on Hwy19. Yes, it is that bad plus her office is an hour away. So i made an appointment to see my regular doctor here in Spring Hill which was yesterday. He had the nerve to fuss at me because i didn't keep him informed about the operations i had after my accident and how he was not included in the loop. I've seen nine doctors plus physical therapy for about eleven months in the past two years, so i guess that was the loop he was referring to. Sorry, but keeping him informed was NOT top priority on my list. He also had the nerve to tell me to "Stop taking the medication the Palm Harbor doctor prescribed. It won't help you". Then he gave me a different prescription and wants me to do more physical therapy and come back and see him in one month. My car insurance (State Farm) will not pay for anymore medical bills so all of this has to come out of my pocket. I get the feeling that doctors see me coming and see dollar signs.

Sorry to keep harping on the same subject but its just so frustrating.
I will try to make another post tonight when hopefully i am in a better mood.

06-02-2005, 06:22 PM
Hey everyone :)

Summer has hit with a vengeance! What that really means is that my girls have been out of school for a week now, and I've been running non-stop ever since. :lol: We have been having fun, though! I've been to the pool twice now, and I am loving the water aerobics set I picked up at Bed Bath & Beyond. (I did tell you guys about that, right?) Tuesday I did 40 minutes of water running and then another 10 of weights and mellowed out with 5 of swimming. It was exhilarating to get through that much and just be pleasantly tired after, instead of aching to the bone and wanting to crawl into bed and die. And even with only having been twice so far, my knee is responding so well! I've been moving up and down stairs so much better than before. I kept asking for the pool when I was going through physical therapy, but they said it was for older patients with more mobility problems. I should have kept pushing, huh!

I've also been having a lot of success in getting all my food and exercise logged onto DietPower. I'm down 8 lbs. since starting that back up! Now, if only I hadn't done so much backsliding... negative thoughts, be banished... No beating myself up over the past. I took a break, and I didn't lose all control. That is something to be grateful for, not to punish myself over.

I'm also really struggling to get my house under control. Tony will be here the end of the month, plus there might be some old friends visiting as they drive through the area. I would hate them to see my place in the shape it is right now. So much clutter! Somehow I need to get the rest of the family on the same sheet of paper with me on this one, but they are all pretty resistant so far.

Kat, it is so good to see you! I was actually planning to buy a card today and send it off to you because I was getting so worried. Thanks for coming back. Please let us know the times you need to be held up, because you do so much of it for the rest of us. (I'm going to try and remember that myself, because I'm guilty of doing the same thing.)

Everyone else, I've got to jet! There is a book club tonight and I need to do some research for an article that is due this next week.

Take care!


06-02-2005, 07:34 PM
Oh good, I'm glad to see everyone out and posting! No, I'm not paranoid!
Sorry to hear about your doctor woes, Gloria! Working in a hospital all these years has made me e x t r e m e l y skeptical of docotrs and their motives. ($$$) Oh, the abuses of the system I see! Not all, of course, but certainly more than not. I hope that you are feeling better. How is Ol' Blue these days?

Thank you for your kind words, Andria. I know how much support there is to be had here, and I'm sorry that I couldn't turn here for it when it is so freely given. I think that I just get to the point that I'm so tired of NEEDING it, over and over. Hey! At least I keep trying, it's when I stop altogether that all will be lost. Sounds like you are doing well, I'm glad to hear it. My son still has two weeks of school left! I'm just as anxious as he is for it to be over!

Tricia, Still going strong, I see! Good for you! You certainly have the 'diet thing' down pat, now you're even thinking like a thin person! it felt better to make my own decision about what I put in my mouth than to let the food dictate what to eat. Powerful stuff there, thanks for sharing!

OH, LUCKY... As usual, I'm right on the same page as you! Maybe I need to get my Dr Phil out too. I was struck by this: This is whatever you, at the absolute core of your being, believe to be true about yourself. You thought "unworthy"...I thought "FAT." Hmmm... I need some work! Wellllll. we both do! :lol: I DO know, however that exercise is the one thing that will always make me feel better. Like Andria said, exhilarating to get through ...and be pleasantly tired after I love that feeling!

It's time for me to get my son off to karate...I hope that you all have a great night!

PS...It's good to be back! I missed you guys!

06-02-2005, 07:35 PM
I have totally failed at the exercise challenge this week. :mad:

HOWEVER, I would win the "throwing up" challenge, no problem. I have had the flu for three days - I am at least able to sit up now. The computer is making me naucous (SP)

Glad to see the rest of you succeeding.

I think I will go lay down again now.


5 dogs
06-02-2005, 08:54 PM
I am sooo happy to see you back, Kat. I know just how you feel about NEEDING support over and over again. The funny thing is, when i see other people needing just as much support as i do, somehow it makes me feel normal again. Please don't stay away so long again. I/we missed you just as much as you missed us.

I am feeling much better now that I've vented my frustrations out on everyone here.
Was watching a nature show today and found out something interesting. Did you know that eagles mate when there still in flight? Apparently, they stop flapping there wings till the whole mating thing is complete and sometimes they even fall to the ground and die before the deed is done. Boy, knowing this about eagles gives a whole new meaning to the term, fore play.

I was wondering where you were, Lucky. Hope you pop in ever so often and let us know how you are feeling. You are not the only one that didn't participate in the exercise challenge. I went to the Y once this week and thats about it as far as exercise goes for me. As Andria says, banish those negative thoughts. Tomorrow is a new day and a new start.

Tricia, where are you? Give us some words of inspiration.

Carl will be home soon so best be getting supper going.
Late dude.

06-02-2005, 10:05 PM
Ugh. I have some sort of bug too, Lucky. I started feeling really worn out last night after dinner. I just assumed getting up so early to go to the gym was starting to take its toll on me. The alarm went off this morning, I got up with every intention of heading out for exercise and WHACK! It was as if I had just walked into a brick wall. The wierd thing is that I don't FEEL sick. My throat is a little scratchy but no headaches, sore throat, or aches. My body is just like a wet rag - like the life has been sucked out of me. Greg was sick last week and said it sounds a lot like how his started. Unfortunately, he says, the worst is yet to come. Anyway, I didn't workout today but am giving myself credit for at least TRYING to drag myself there. I'm going to hit the sack early tonight and hopefully the extra rest will have me back at the gym in the morning.

My eating today wasn't so great. Not only was I hungrier than usual but it was munchy hungry. I've ended the day at 1700 calories which is certainly reasonable. But, I feel a little guilty because so much of it was snacky stuff. Healthy, but snacky all the same. How is it possible that someone who used to eat 3500 calories worth of fat and junk without giving it a second thought can feel guilty about 1700 calories worth of nutrient packed snacks? I know it partly stems from an unhealthy attitude towards food in general - it is always one extreme or another. Plus, I'm pretty full from dinner. Being too full triggers negative feelings these days. One of my goals while I work to lose these last 20 pounds is to try and find a happy medium. There just has to be a middle ground where my eating is reasonable and enjoyable without being micro- managed and laced with guilt. I'll find it, I know I will.

On a more postive note we finally had clear enough weather for me to take the kids to the pool. I can't say that I wasn't at all self conscious but I certainly felt a lot more confident wearing a swimsuit in public than I have in a long, long time. None of my kids can swim yet - it is very frustrating for me. They aren't scared of the water but none of them will put their faces in the water, go under, jump from the side, etc. Now, I grew up in the water and I don't ever remember a time that I was timid in a swimming pool. I know that this is one of those things that I can't push them to do. Just like riding a bike, when they are ready they will do it. But, knowing how much more fun they will have once the learn to swim makes not pushing them so hard for me. Will is especially difficult to deal with. First of all because most of his friends can swim as can the new friends he makes at the pool. So, even though he has fun, he tends to get left out/behind. Secondly, because Jake and Addie take their cues from him. The more he fights it the harder it becomes to get them more confident in the water. I just try and remind myself that we are there for them to have fun. And as long as they are enjoying themselves that is all that matters. Will had swim lessons last year and did really well but I'm not sure we'll sign him up again. But, it sure would be nice if they could get in the pool by themselves - and I could watch from the sidelines at least SOME of the time.

Gloria, I hate that you are having so much trouble. As if it isn't bad enough that you are dealing with the pain in your neck and back you have to deal with all of the pains in the *** too! I hope things get better for you soon, I really do. How are your tomatoes coming? I have so many now. I can't wait for them to ripen. I usually just put the plants out, stake them, and let them go. A little miricle grow here and there, weeding every now and then. But this year I have put a decent amount of effort into pruning and training them. I hope it all pays off. I'm concentrating less on quantity and more on quality. Still, it is so hard for me to sacrifice any of the fruit even though I know it is the best way to insure what I do harvest is the best tasting it can be. And my peppers are going CRAZY! They've had tons of flowers for a while but only 4 peppers growing. I picked those last weekend. All of the energy must have been going into those four because as soon as they were off the bush all of those other flowers spit out fruit that I can almost watch getting bigger.

Andria, it sounds like things are going well for you. I agree with you about the pool workouts. Will and I ran races across the pool today plus I pulled all three of them around in their swim rings playing "choo choo train." It was a good workout and easy on my knee to boot - I can't ask for much more than that. Now, it seems that congratulations are in order. 8 pounds? That is AWESOME! Oh, and as for getting your house in order - just take comfort knowing that mine is likely much, much worse. I've all but given up in that department. I swear, I can't get to any real cleaning for the constant picking up that I have to do. To top it off, if I finally do get a floor scrubbed or a bathroom sparkling it lasts all of about 10 minutes. Between the kids and the dog I'm not sure I'll ever have a clean house again.

Kat, what kind of karate is your son involved in? Will takes Tae Kwon Do. He finally earned the 4th and 5th stripes on his orange belt tonight so he'll be able to test for his green belt in a couple of weeks. I've been pleased with the results in his demeanor since he started back in November. It has been a real confidence booster for him. His instructor mentioned tonight that he needs to believe in himself. He gets nervous for no reason but once he sees he can do the combinations his confidence soars. Will is one of those kids that has every reason in the world to feel good about himself and has so many talents. But, for whatever reason, he struggles a bit with his self-esteem. I think it does him a lot of good to be involved in a sport where his only competition is himself. He's figuring out all that he is capable of and it is amazing to watch as he progresses.

Well, I've rambled enough and am off to bed. I sure hope I feel better in the morning. Have a great night everyone!


06-03-2005, 11:38 PM
I still didn't feel good but went in to work anyway. Now I have to work tomorrow because I am so far behind. UGH!! :mad:

At least I have a job, right!!! :) Trying to be optimistic.

Are you feeling better Tricia?

Oh, Gloria:
Did you know that eagles mate when there still in flight? Apparently, they stop flapping there wings till the whole mating thing is complete and sometimes they even fall to the ground and die before the deed is done.

All that proves to me is that males will risk death if they can have $ex!! :rofl:

Have you seen that commercial about, I think it is Ciales? Something to help men have $ex? At the end the warning always says that if (hmmm don't know if I can type this here so instead of the actual word) a man stays "in the ready position" for over 4 hours they should seek medical treatment -
RIGHT, most men would be ecstatic if that happened - no way would they go to the doctor to end it. Everytime I hear that I have to laugh! :lol:

Okay off to bed. Sorry I haven't been here much but I till be better.

Did we have an ending date for the challenge? Are we doing this weekly?

06-04-2005, 12:06 AM
Where is everyone?!?

I am starting to feel better but my eating has been out of control. I feel like I am slipping. To be honest I am starting to panic. Now, to put it all in persepective, calorie wise I am doing okay. Maybe a little higher than usual but certainly nothing that would keep me from maintaining if not still losing an ounce or two. I can't figure it out. As much as I hate to admit it, I think I am just munching out of boredom. Maybe because we have been housebound more than usual the last couple of days? It will be that TOM soon so perhaps I'm just hormonal?

It really is driving me crazy. I absolutley HATE to make excuses for myself but I honestly can't figure out what is going on. I feel like I take two steps forward then three steps back. But then I run my fitday reports and my calorie intake isn't all that bad. The past week's average has been 1600 - just 100 calories over my target. Why on Earth should I feel like I've blown it because of 100 lousy calories?

I know that I need to step back, relax, and just rethink my strategy from here on out. I mean it seems absurd to me that two or three posts back I was feeling in complete control and couldn't imagine being in this situation. I guess that is what throws me too - I don't have any concern that I will stop eating healthily or exercising regularly. I am not at all worried that I will regain any of the weight I've lost. However, I am slightly terrified that I will get out of weight loss mode and into maintaining mode if I don't get a hold of myself.

Maybe I just need to give it a rest this weekend. Be aware of my calorie intake but not sweat it, try a couple of new classes at the gym, and have Greg hide the scale for a few days. As I re-read this post I can see that I am probably making a mountain out of a molehill. I probably need to take a deep breath and focus on something besides food, calories, exercise, and fat for a couple of days.

Okay, I am done whining. Tomorrow is a new day and I am going to get a good night's sleep and face it with a MUCH better attitude than what I have right now. And, I WILL get back on track mentally, emotionally, and physically (with your help, of course!).

Have a great weekend!


06-04-2005, 12:47 AM
Hi there, girlies! Late post, but I had to get one in for the day. Lousy day that it dreary and rainy. Supposedly tomorrow will be better, here's hoping!

Tricia, don't be so hard on said it yourself: I probably need to take a deep breath and focus on something besides food, calories, exercise, and fat for a couple of days. Great advice! Have a fun weekend and don't haven't come this far for nothing!

Lucky...I had to laugh at your theory on guys stuck in 'the ready position.' :lol: Jeff Foxworthy did a bit about going to the ER if that should happen. He siad he'd go, but he was gonna wear his gown BACKWARDS! :rofl:

So, how do the challenges run? Weekly? I did get two days of walking in this week, Had all good intentions for today, but that damn rain just wouldn't stop! :rain:

Bright and early tomorrow, my son is testing for his senior blue belt in Karate. To answer your question, Tricia, well, I can't...I'm not sure what kind it is that they do...but I don't think it's Tae Kwon Do. Yeah, I'm real attentive! Then I have the rest of the day to call my own. I'm thinking about a good walk along the boardwalk, weather permitting. Maybe I'll even bring the dog, if she's lucky. Or there's always a nice bike ride, but I'm a little hesitant about using my favorite bike trail...just recently there, some guy jumped out of the bushes at a female jogger. He was completely naked except for the condom that he was wearing! :o: Unfortunately for him, the gal he chose to jump was an off duty policewoman, armed with pepper spray and her cell phone! She chased him to his car and managed to get the license plate number as he got away. But not for long. Turns out it was a rental and easily traceable to the fellow who rented it. He doesn't live around here, but he is a vice president at Chase Manhattan Bank in NYC! Made the front page of not only our local papers, but the New York papers as well. Fine upstanding citizen there! Scary though...there are parts of the trail away from any houses, which is what's nice about it, but given the world we live in, it's also dangerous. SAD.

Well, on that happy note, I'm going to say nighty night to all...See you tomorrow!

06-04-2005, 11:43 AM
Thanks, Kat, for the encouragement. :flow1:

I put some thought into how I have been feeling and think I've figured it all out. Lately, I've had a really rotten image of my body. I look in the mirror with the same amount of disgust that I had back in December. :( It isn't that I don't know how far I've come. I do. And for a while there I could appreciate the difference between how I looked then and how I look now. I've been hovering in this weight range long enough to stop appreciating how I look now and start critiquing it.

I am remembering back to when I was 214 lbs. and realize that the most detrimental attitude I ever had was thinking that I was so far gone that it wasn't even worth trying to lose weight. I'm not quite there yet but I feel it creeping up on me. So, there is only one thing to do. Bite the bullet and stick with the program even if my brain tries to talk me out of it.

So, it is back to basics for me. :drill:

I'm finally well now and so I am back to exercising like I know I need to. I'm going to be much more careful about the types of food I eat - part of my problem has to be that I've been eating the same foods for months so it is time to try some new things not just what is easy. And, I am going to get back into a routine. With Will out of school things haven't been as structured as they had been. And I am the kind of person that needs structure to successfully lose weight. And, finally, I'm back to hiding the scale. There is absolutley no reason for me to weigh every single day. For a while I loved hopping on because seeing 155 tickled me to death. It doesn't anymore. And heaven help us should I see it that number sneak up to 156 or 157.

I am also trying to remind myself that there was a time when I would read someone's post who was in the 150 range (or 180 for that matter) and think to myself how THRILLED I would be if I only had 30 pounds to lose. I thought those girls had it soooooo easy. Of course, now I know that isn't true. It doesn't matter whether you have 10 pounds or 200 pounds to lose - every ounce is a battle. So, I might have lost this last battle by letting myself get into such a funk but I fully intend to win the war.

Thanks, everybody, for letting me vent. I really needed to unload all these feelings and emotions. Now, I am good to go.

Good luck to us all! We can and WILL do this! :grouphug:

Have a great day!


06-05-2005, 04:59 PM
Hi all! I hope everyone is having a good weekend...I'm on my way outside to putter around the yard....watering, weeding, plotting and planning. I just got back from and art nephew had some pieces displayed. My budding Picasso! Made me realize that I should get back to my sketch pad, I do enjoy that.

Okay, back outside for me. Dinner will be grilled and eaten outside today, it finally feels like a June day around and sunny! :flow2:

Have a great day...what's left of it!

Back to the grind tomorrow!

06-05-2005, 10:06 PM
Just got back from my one nephew's school Swing Concert. They did a Beatle tribute. Afterwards he said he could see me singing along to all the songs they did - too bad you weren't here Kat, we could have been a duo in the audience.

It is still wet and rainy here.

I feel better (today) finally so it's back on the exercise band wagon. Are we starting a new challenge each week? No one spoke up on the duration.

Off to rest for a few before bed.

Roll call on exercise for last week. I did 54 min on Monday - and after that it was sick ville.

06-06-2005, 09:40 AM
Last week's exercise for me was:

Tuesday - 35 minutes on elliptical, 45 minutes on weights
Wednesday - 20 minutes on the stationary bike, 45 minutes jog/walk combo on treadmill
Thursday, Friday, Saturday - sick, but did get some activity in at the pool on Saturday
Sunday - 15 minutes Jog/walk combo on treadmill, 1 hour on weights, 20 minutes on stationary bike.

And, surprisingly, I have been getting up and going to the gym before the kids get up in the morning. The alarm goes off, I have to get up to go to the bathroom, and the entire time I'm peeing I'm talking myself out of getting back in bed! I just keep saying to myself, "Do you want to lose this weight or not?" over and over. This morning it was drizzling out and there was a little thunder in the distance - the perfect kind of day to sleep in. Plus, a storm woke Addie up last night so she was in my bed and is the best little snuggler anybody could ask for. It took every ounce of will I had to brush my teeth and go. But, I sure do feel better now that I am home, it is over, and I don't have to think about exercising again until tomorrow.

Is everybody doing okay these days? I hope our Sanctuary isn't starting to fizzle out. Where is everybody? Anyway, have a great day!

06-06-2005, 07:02 PM
Just pulling us back up to the top! I really don't have a lot to share, actually. My exercise, so far today, consists of MAJOR vacuuming and dusting. I did actually work up a sweat! I had intended to get out and walk, but it's just so hot and humid (I can hardly believe that I was moaning about how COLD it was for June, not 5 days ago!) I am going to put my Beach Body DVD on in a few minutes. I WILL meet this challenge!

(It IS to exercise daily, isn't it?) If not, it is for me!

That's all from this end, for now. I'm back to work tonight, <groan> and off to visit Mom and Dad tomorrow. Dad is doing okay, actually. He's had two chemo sessions so far (once a month) He gets really tired and washed out for about a week after, and then bounces badk eventually. Like that rubber ball. He's too much!

SO...that's all I got. Have a good night, kids!

06-07-2005, 09:41 PM
I am feeling better now, but my computer is acting up - maybe it got the flu from me! :lol:

We have a bad storm coming in so I have to hurry and get my computer shut off. When I first moved here I left my computer on all the time and during a storm was hit by lightening somewhere close to the house and it fried my I am more careful.

Eating has been good because it still makes me queasy.


06-07-2005, 09:57 PM
:dunno: Where is everybody? Gloria? Lucky? I hope you girls are okay out there!

Exercise is still going well. :ebike: My weight loss has picked up a little and I attribute it to uping my weights, switching to a morning work out, and increasing my calories to about 1800. First of all, I think I have finally built enough muscle to reap the benefits of buring a few extra calories during the day and while sleeping. Second, I am exercising more often because I don't have any excuses at 5:00 a.m. plus I think mixing it up a bit helped get me over the hump. Finally, I've been eating more which I think has jump started my metabolism. I know I'll need to cut back down to 1500 in a couple of weeks or so but this seems to be the mix that is working right now. :D

Kat, I can tell you have really dedicated yourself to getting fit. I am so proud for you - we are behind you all of the way!

Our summer has kicked into overdrive. Besides getting hot, :hot: we are spending quite a bit of time at the pool and working out in the garden (you should see my tomatoes! I can hardly wait until they are ripe!). Plus, I take the kids for different activities around town. Our public library has a wonderful summer reading program and the city hosts lots of family nights at various parks, etc. I've gotten my sewing machine out and am working on a couple of sun dresses for Addie. Some of you may remember these but back in the 80's we used to make T-shirt dresses by cutting one t-shirt just under the arm and then sewing it to the bottom of the other shirt. You can leave the seam plain but we used to hot glue a ribbon or something around it or use ribbon as trim around the sleeves and hem. I needed a risk free project to get the feel of my sewing machine back so I used some old shirts that Will and Jake have outgrown and made a couple for Addie. They make great running around dresses, bathing suit cover ups, etc. They turned out so cute I'm going to make a couple for me too. Cheap and easy, just the way I like it!

:cry: Oh, and I am just broken hearted for a friend. Actually, she is my sister's best friend but I call her a friend as well. Anyway, her sister, brother-in-law, and their two children (3 and 5, I think) were on their way home when their vehicle crossed the center line and they hit a truck head on. All four of them were killed. As you can imagine, our friend and her family are absolutley devestated. I held my kids a little closer when we found out. Family is so precious and it is so hard to comprehend that an entire one could be taken so easily. It is just heartbreaking.

Well, come out to play when you can. I miss you guys! :)


5 dogs
06-07-2005, 11:14 PM
Sorry i haven't been around lately but I've been buried in paper work. I really cant talk about it, but i can tell you that the paper work has to do with my law suit from the car accident back in 2003. Would you believe that the lawyers want to know what i had for supper the day after the accident? Well, maybe not that extreme, but pretty close to it. All I've been doing for the past week and a half is trying to find people, places and phone numbers.

Tricia, my hart goes out to you. I don't know what to say to help you feel better. To loose a friend because of a car accident is painful, but a whole family is so very tragic. I hope you will take comfort in knowing you have friends hanging around your computer if you ever need to have a good cry.

Glad to see you are feeling better, Lucky. You know, i heard somewhere that vine ripened tomatoes can make a person feel a lot better if they been sick. I know a person that lives in Mississippi that has tomatoes almost ready for the picken.

Hi Kat, hum, yes you have to exercise everyday. Do you live close to the ocean? If you do, i am so jealous. Must be wonderful to be able to exercise right on the beach.

Andria, okay girlfriend, where are you?

06-08-2005, 09:41 PM
Yuck, Gloria. I hate paperwork of any kind - but what you are dealing with has to be the worst. Seems like all that red tape is in place to insure that the people asking for all that paperwork get paid instead of you.

When Jake and Addie were born I went around and around with the hospital, a medical billing company, and a collection agency. We were required to pay for Jake's circumcision in advance. No problem, we wrote them a check for $150. After we got home and started recieiving all of the insurance claims. We had one that had been rejected - it was a bill for ADDIE'S circumcision - because that procedure isn't covered. So, I called the hospital and explained that Addie is a GIRL and that they had charged us incorrectly. Well, of course, THEY can't help me. I have to call the company that does their billing (shouldn't YOU call the billing company? After all, YOU told them to bill me!). The billing company says they will take care of it. Great. Next thing you know, I'm getting phone calls from a collection agency that the billing company uses. I explain it all to them and am told I have to go back to the billing company. Cripes. This went on for months. Finally, I get the last straw, super nasty, collection call all but threatening me over this $150.00. I was at WORK at the time. I was PISSED and FED UP. I said, in my ugliest tone and probably too loud a voice for a professional environment, "Lady, this $150 is for circumscising my DAUGHTER. Let me assure you that if I REALLY owe this money you people have a **** of a lot more to worry about than getting this money from me. I suggest you speak to the company that hired you to call me and work it out amongst yourselves!" FINALLY, it got taken care of. Thank goodness they never reported to the credit bureaus or I would probably STILL be fighting that battle.

And what really grates my nerves is that every single time Jake and Addie have a doctor's appointment on the same day one of their claims gets denied because the insurance company doesn't look at the social security numbers like they are supposed to just the last name and birthday. They assume they are the same kid. I call them and they say the doctor's office turned the same claim in twice, the doctor's office says they submitted seperate ones (and have the fax back up to prove it) but they still have to do it again. It usually takes two or three times before these knuckleheads get it right. It has gotten to the point that, unless they are sick, I take them on seperate days because that takes LESS time than the song and dance I have to do if I don't.

Anyway, I hate you are dealing with all of that crap. I hope everything gets settled for you soon.

Now, on a more pleasant note, I've lost 3 pounds this week! I am absolultely, positively dumbfounded. I have a feeling it is a fluke and I'll be back to losing a couple of ounces a week soon enough but for now I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy it. It has to be a result of moving my exercise to the mornings. First, I think I probably work out a little harder because I'm not worn out from the day yet. Also, I read somewhere that exercising in the morning before breakfast results in your body going straight to its fat stores for energy as opposed to burning carbs/sugar from your most recent meals. Makes sense, I guess. The downside is that I am much hungrier throughout the day when I exercise in the morning. My calories have been a good bit higher than usual. I suspect I'll eventually adjust to this exercise routine and it will become less effective. I worry that it will be hard to cut my calories back again at that point. We'll see.

Oh, and guess what? Will learned to swim today! I am so proud of him. He is so excited. He finally realizes how much more fun the pool is when you actually put your face in the water. And that little rascal took off like a fish - it was great. Now if I can get Jake and Addie to do the same I may be able to get out of the pool and get a tan BELOW my shoulders!

Gotta run. Have a great night!

06-11-2005, 03:01 PM
Hey, gals! It's a hot and sunny Saturday, here in NJ! My kids have flown the coop...daughter is at some concert weekend thing in Tennessee...any hear of "Bonaroo Music and Arts Festival?" No, me either, before this. She and two friends drove down and are camping out, along with 50.000 other festival goers. My first thought was to say an emphatic "NO" and then I realized that that is exactly what my parents would have said to me...of course they said NO to everything, so I kind of had to weed out the really unreasonable stuff myself. <I digress> I know she's a smart, capable young woman, with a modicum of common sense, so off she went. With promises of twice daily phone calls to assure Mom and Dad that she is alive and well. So far, so good. *sigh* Enjoy those little ones while they're young, Tricia! They're much easier to control!

My son was asked to go camping with a friend and his family at their trailer for the weekend in the Poconos, PA. Much closer to home and there will be sensible parental units along for his ride! Visions of paintballing are dancing in his head!

Hubby is sleeping at the moment, he worked last night. I have to work tonight, but I have the day to myself! Whoo hoo! Sadly, here I am...There's lots for me to do, but I believe I'm going to take my self over to the gym and get a GOOD workout in. I haven't been there in a while and my weight is showing it. I replaced the batteries in my scale today and was HORRIFIED at the numbers displayed. I can't even bring myself to change my ticker tape thingy, I'm so disgusted with myself.

BUT! I will not be wallowing and lanquishing in self hatred and self pity...I intend to grab this bull by the horns, get down to business and JUST DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE! 1. Stop eating junk! 2. EXERCISE! 3. NO EXCUSES!

So....that's my plan.


Have a great, productive, day all. Do something that makes you happy!!

Hey! Andria! Where are you, chickie? Is this the time of the Tony visitation? I will cut you some slack, if so. But we want to hear about it! Miss you!

Hi to everyone else...I gotta get moving!

06-11-2005, 05:39 PM
Good news! My first tomato has finally blushed. I swear I am considering pulling up a chair so that I can watch it turn red from here. BLT's, salsa, and marinara, look out - here I come!

Hope you are all doing well and having a terrific weekend.


06-12-2005, 10:50 AM
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