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RavenToy
05-01-2005, 09:27 AM
Hm. Looks like I'm the first one here this month! :)

Well chicks, I seem to have found my path again, for the most part. Weekends are harder for me than weekdays, but hopefully now with at least some pathetic little income (which is better than none at all, yes?) I'll be able to afford to have better food around the house.

I'm going to go ahead and post what I put in last month's thread before I realized it was a new month. :o

Chicks - C'mon. You know there are a lot of different body types. You know not everyone can even begin to weigh in at 110-120, even if they're the same height as the more slender counterpart.

Bones have a lot to do with it, muscle mass and how much you are genetically predisposed to have has a lot to do with it... pure genetics plays a huge role in what your body type is. That is why I HATE the stupid number games the "health professionals" play with our minds. As an extreme example, when I was in my 20s and a powerlifter on the University of Alaska team, I weighed in at close to 170. I'm 5'3" tall. I wore a size 9. Last August, I weighed 172, I'm still 5'3", and I wore a size 14. All because yes, I was lifting, but not like an athlete training for competition. I was carrying a HUGE amount of muscle around on me then.

I know, those are extreme examples, but it illustrates why I tend to use the scale only as a barometer, if you will, of what I'm doing. I very loosely set weight goals, because it is something you can actually post. Something tangible people can see. And I have a rough idea of what weight range I think I might need to be in. But the scale and the numbers are not really my goal. The size of my clothes, the fact that I'll be able to run 5 or 10 K, the fact that I can work under horses trimming feet all day long, or beat my son and daughter at arm wrestling... those are my real measurements of success.

Derry - Each day (****, sometimes each minute) we have to define what is more important to us. Eating something yummy without regard to our physical appearance, health, etc. or losing weight and getting fit. There are always going to be times when the eating wins out. You cannot lose weight until you are ready to do so. That is why my sigline is what it is. If you are not mentally prepared to do what you need to do, you simply will not do it. And there are going to be times when you simply do not have the resources to think about losing weight.

One of the big issues with my journey has been trying desperately to condition myself to eat right without thought. I've gotten much better about it, but I still struggle. I get very, very tired of having to measure, weigh, count --- I just want to fix food and eat it. But 40+ years of eating too much of the wrong foods is not an easy thing to change. I'm more likely now to reach for a glass of water when I'm thirsty than eat ice cream. Don't laugh, your brain can trick itself into thinking allllll sorts of things. It took me a long time to realize that when I was craving ice cream, jello, fruit - my body was TRYING to say I'M THIRSTY!!! I'm more likely now to reach for a bowl of grain cereal for breakfast, or eggs, now instead of pancakes. But you know, I still crave chocolate after dinner. And I'm not ready to cut that off yet. Maybe one of these days. For now, I just try really hard to limit it to one serving and budget it into my day.

Ok... I'm sorry, I rambled on. I guess I'm just trying to say that yes. There are many different body types. And just like I tell my daughter - you will never, ever be a skinny little slip of a girl. It's simply not genetically possible. But you can be very proud that you can lift three of those slips over your head if you so desire.


RavenToy
05-01-2005, 07:01 PM
Wow .. looks like I'm the ONLY one here this month! :eek: Where is everyone?

Well week one is done!! I almost talked myself out of doing pilates today, but after we got home from the stables, I did it before showering and cooking dinner. Yay me!

I rode and am starting to get Arashi back in shape, too. He and I are both seriously lacking in the muscle tone department. :D

Tomorrow starts week two! Hope everyone had a grand weekend!

redballoon
05-01-2005, 08:34 PM
Heh Rave, thanks for starting the new thread. But you have to give us a little jingle! Come on, May madness, something.... although at this point I suppose you can't change the title anyhow. Oh well. . ..
Rave, I will try to type later. Just wanted to say hello so you wouldn't feel too lonely! :sunny:


jollygirl
05-02-2005, 10:37 AM
Hi all. Thanks for starting the new thread, Raven.

My goal for this month MUST BE finding my motivation again. Right now I am battling extreme fatigue. This makes me not work out and choose bad foods that I use the excuse will give me an energy jolt, but both those things only serve to make me more tired. A vicious cycle. And, I really feel like I was on the right track last year. Then, I just lost momentum. I keep caring less and less, and seem to be losing my hold on the rope hanging behind the wagon. The weight just keeps coming back on and I can't seem to care to stop it. Why? I need to find some way to care again. To get motivated again. And to get back to the business of taking good care of myself.

HELP!

Apple Blossom
05-02-2005, 12:47 PM
Still here, Happy May everyone! Wow, hard to believe I was 9 months pregnant this time last year. The little guy is almost one!!
I have been eating OK the last few days. DH is home and I have a harder time controlling myself. Yesterday we celebrated my mother's birthday. I ate fine but I had....beer.....This morning I am down a pound but I think I'm just dehydrated. I'll stick to my 3 day rule. (3 days at weight before declaring an official loss) I shouldn't obsess about the #'s either. It's the way the clothes fit that really make me feel good.(or bad) :dizzy: And being fit. Which I'm not. I'm probably in the worst physical shape in my life. And I'm not really motivated to do anything about it right now. I'll stick to my walking and sit ups for now.
Well, lets make May a great month!!

RavenToy
05-02-2005, 11:17 PM
I guess my riding will do for exercise tonight.

Food ... right on plan.

Water ... needed to drink more.

Oh .. and do unplanned dismounts burn any calories? ;) Arashi jumped a little because my son startled him. My training problem, not my son's or horse's fault. I lost my balance - riding bareback - and did the slo-mo fall. Had PLENTY of time to realize exactly what was happening. *sigh* This was the first time I've fallen that I didn't tuck my head. I think because it was happening so slowly, I'd land softly? HA! I have SUCH a bruise on my butt!

Anyway.. I didn't run this morning. I had no get up and go at all. I had a blast with the horses, and I'll run in the morning.

Aiming for another 2 pound loss this week!!

jollygirl
05-03-2005, 06:29 AM
Hey y'all. I really wonder if I AM coming down with something. My get up and go has got up and went. I am trying to take better care of myself. Just hope I feel better and more energized soon.

here's to a good week for all of us.

Apple Blossom
05-03-2005, 03:15 PM
Horseback riding is good exercise, isn't it? I used to ride as a kid and I remember if I didn't ride for a while my legs would be sore the next time. And bare back, well you must have to really use your muscles to hang on!!
I hope your butt's OK by the way. ;)
Yesterday I was hungry ALL DAY LONG. I ate to satisfy my hunger, but I ate well. Today I am not so insaitiable. I feel like things are moving along fine. Took a walk today too.
Hope everyone else is fine!
Feel better, Jolly! :)

redballoon
05-03-2005, 04:01 PM
Hi people. Sorry I haven't been posting. Wish I could give you some motivation Jolly. Apple, glad to hear you're eating good things. Rave, take care, have fun. Watch those dismounts! happy, derry, where are you?

I've been trying to eat better things, which usually involves more than throwing some prepackaged thing in my face. I have made more pasta sauce and salads and been eating a lot of celery. Figure that stuff has to be good. It does take the edge off and I haven't had these insane sugar cravings. I've also been eating fruit, big bowl of strawberries with plain yogurt. The berries are so sweet they offset the sourness of the yogurt.

Well, I'm so busy. See you all around. I usually get to read the posts just so I keep getting the email notifications. Keep going, guys. Jolly, at least try not to backslide. Think of maintaining where you are at least, then you won't feel disgusted with your efforts or lack of them. That's what I've been trying to do. If I can't get out and exercise I just don't allow myself to sit around stuffing food in myself.

Ok, bye all! :wave:

RavenToy
05-03-2005, 07:47 PM
*lol* Thank you apple.. no, my butt is not ok. I have three really nice bruises on it. One with a hard lump right in the middle. Good thing I have lots of padding. I have a sharp pain at the point of my right scapula, and my neck is stiff as heck. But you know what? Who cares!! I love riding my boy. And I think this is the first time I've come off that I just didn't care. Had my daughter toss me back up on him with a leg up and we did great. It wasn't a big deal, I just fell. THAT is a good feeling. Yes, it's good exercise, just the mild walk trot we're doing is giving me a good muscle workout.

I tried to do the treadmill this morning, but .. it hurt. It just hurt way too much. So I think I'll try again tomorrow. No pilates because of course, that's WAY too much for my poor tailbone.

Jolly - I'm so sorry you're feeling so crappy. Take care of yourself. Get lots of sleep, drink lots of fluids... eat right.

Red - I love fruit and yogurt. It's a great combination. :) I'm going to try more salads too, especially now that it's summer. I'd forgotten how good they are!!

Well ok... water today was WAY down. Too busy at work to remember. Food was good. Exercise was nada. :D

happy2bme
05-03-2005, 11:30 PM
Sorry I haven't been posting. I had the most wonderful visit with my mum - wanted to spend every free minute with her. Put her on a plane Monday safe and sound with promises to be back soon (end of June). Then... Sunday night I had the most horrid sore throat - kept me up a good part of the night. It has progressed into a full blown cold with all the aches and pains, coughs and sneezes bells and whistles. It is month end at work so I could not take off. Finally got so bad I had DH take me to the clinic tonight for some antibiotics. A nice little Korean doctor took care of me - I guessed his age to be about 11 or 12 years old. ;) OMG it hurts sooo bad to cough and it's just starting to settle into my chest. I should be ok in a day or two after the antibiotics kick in. Take care and will catch up with you then...

happy2bme
05-03-2005, 11:33 PM
Hey y'all. I really wonder if I AM coming down with something.

AH HAH! :mag: So maybe those were midwest germs I picked up. And here I was blaming the slot machines at the casinos ;)

Here's to motivation and climbing back on the wagon just cuz it's the right thing to do!

RavenToy
05-04-2005, 06:50 AM
Success!!

Very quick

Week 2 Day 1 Couch to 5K Done.

Water good so far.

Food ... hopefully will be good. :)

I ran! Woo! Go me!

Scale this morning was down, but might be due to dehydration as water yesterday was realllllly bad. We shall see.

redballoon
05-04-2005, 06:55 AM
Good for you Raven! Keep it up!

jollygirl
05-04-2005, 09:04 AM
Hello all. Well, I did make it to the gym for a light workout yesterday and today. That is something anyway. Haven't been able to run - back is still too sore. Didn't make it to the barn last night either. Came home from a late meeting at work, and bundled up on the couch to fight off the chills I had. I am feeling a bit better today, so hopefully it is working it;'s way out. I hope you feel better soon, Happy. Congrats on the victories, Raven. I hope your tailbone is feeling better soon too. Congrats on the better eating, Red. I love berries and yogurt. Yummmmm.

Have a good day all.

Apple Blossom
05-04-2005, 08:57 PM
Just a short post to celebrate another pound gone. Yup. Proud of myself.
Hope everyone else is having a great day too!!! :hat:

redballoon
05-05-2005, 12:33 AM
Jolly, hope you're feeling better. What did you think of my "maintaining" idea? You seem so inredibly busy that I think you go too hard on yourself then do a rebound kind of thing because you feel so deprived, no? What about trying to do a real gung-ho day or so followed by a maintaining day, not a gung-ho by a no holds barred? Just an idea that I'm trying to use myself. I've been good but I feel a backlash coming on. Yesterday too, so I didn't force myself to go to the gym and I made spaghetti instead of forcing down another salad. It satisfied me and I didn't feel deprived and yet I know that that was still a ton less than what it could have been. Oh yeah!

Apple, congratulations on the pound off! :cp: Good for you for feeling proud of yourself! I think you should be too! :yes:

I've been afraid to weigh myself. Don't think I'll be below 72.8 like last time I moved the tracker, so I'm waiting so as not to be discouraged. That sure was good to see the lower number. I think I was dehydrated though. But so what?!

Hello to everyone. Chachee, sassy, where r u? Sass, I could have sworn you'd said, "no more lurking." :shrug: Derry, come in and give us an update on things, ok? Rave, you still on a roll? It's OK to fall of your horses but don't fall off the wagon, K?

happy, how are you doing? Hope you're feeling better too. A child docter, eh? :lol: Yeah, Asians always look younger than their age, at least to Westerners. I can guess their age right on the nose. DON'T ask me to guess Westerners any more though... uh-oh! dangerous for me. But now that I know that I just figure what I think they'd be and immediately chop off 10 and if I want to flatter 'em, an additional 5. Speaking of Korea, I was trying to learn the writing once more. I just hate seeing some language and not being able to make heads or tails of it. I may go there in a week or so for a racing conference. Never spent time in Seoul, just only stopovers when I used to fly to NY on Korean Air before there were direct flights. Couple times ago when I was back in the States, in NY, I was so surprised to see out in Queens all this Korean all over the place. Guess there was a big influx of Korean immigrants. Well, just got me thinking.

Anyone I missed? It'd be nice to hear from you.... :sunny:

RavenToy
05-05-2005, 06:11 AM
Jolly - Good going on getting to the gym, but really... do take care of yourself. Lots of rest and liquids. Yeah yeah, I know... I'm such a mom.

Red - That's what I've started doing every day. I never diet anymore. I eat pretty much what I want. I limit portions. Every day it's a choice for me - eat too much or lose weight, which do I want? Some days (or minutes) eating wins, but lately losing weight has been the preferred choice. I truly think you cannot do this unless it is something you really want. Not just want, but are willing to choose on a minute by minute, day to day basis. Or at least that's what it is for me. If I force myself to be too rigid, I will finally explode and give up for weeks or months at a time, inevitably gaining back everything. That and my inability to deal with attention are my two worst enemies.

Apple - Congrats!!

Food - Pretty good.
Water - Much better.
Exercise - Yep, did the treadmill yesterday. Supposed to do pilates today, we'll see how my rear end fares. Not sure if I can handle the floor work with the bruises around my lower back/tailbone. However, I did ride again last night! And this time, I stayed on! Woo! Go me! *lol* Working on smoothing out Arashi's trot, learning how to use muscles I don't think I've ever used before to hold myself on my horse - it's truly amazing how many muscles there are between your waist and your knees that you never know exist! :lol: He is coming along beautifully, god I love this horse. V rode Shadow, but she's terrified her leg is going to give out on her again so kept it very very light. Then Machine rode Eve for a few minutes just to get his "horse legs" again. Been a long time since he's ridden, but he did really well, and I was proud of him. He's really starting to begin to understand the training we're doing. He practiced his emergency stop yesterday, and did quite well. Then V rode Eve and of course... made Ian and I look like rank beginners. (ok, so we are, shush ;) ) I think Eve is going to end up being a shared horse, I hope Machine doesn't mind. V wants so badly to do some more demanding riding, and she is just too scared to push Shadow. I don't blame her. It's scary not knowing how far is too far with a horse when they have ligament damage like that. You never know for sure if it's *healed* or if the next workout will cause it to blow again. One day at a time. In any case, thank goodness we have Eve. She's a fantastic, giving, big hearted, beautiful girl. Have I said I really love these horses? :p

redballoon
05-05-2005, 06:28 AM
Heh Raven, You still online? Check your Yahoo IM.

I'm just back from the gym. Good workout. Doing the couch thing to 5K too but with a touch of variation basically cause I forgot it and then just wanted to up the running so did my own. Now have checked it out again for Week 4 and will start that next week. Feel my stamina getting better. Ah, it feels so good to be getting back in shape.

Just cooked up some hb eggs, great for a snack.
A big bowl of strawberries and yogurt is waiting again! YUM, here I come! :hungry:

RavenToy
05-05-2005, 06:44 PM
I don't use Yahoo hardly at all. If I have anything up, it's usually MSN. I think I ate too much for dinner tonight. I made mexican and it was sooooo good. :o

CSI tonight!!

Pilates was a no go this morning. My butt hurt too much! :lol: Treadmill again tomorrow!

I hope Chachee is ok.

RavenToy
05-06-2005, 06:52 AM
Couch-to-5K Week 2 Day 2: 30 minutes, 1.76 miles. Making progress.

Weight up, I ate too much, and what I ate had a lot of sodium in it. Roll with it.

Water good.

Tonight riding again.

Tomorrow pilates I hope. Rear end should be better.

C'mon chicks!!! Where are our BASIC STEPS???? Just ONE! :drill:

redballoon
05-06-2005, 07:27 AM
Excellent work, Raven! :cp: You sound like you've found a groove there. Keep it up. :yes:

I've been doing very well myself. Just decided I have to eat less, period, no screwing around with it all, just cut back, way back! But I know to fear the rebound if I cut too far back so I will eat and boy, after getting used to cutting back, it feels almost sinful!

jollygirl
05-06-2005, 03:48 PM
Hi all. Just a real quick check in. Not much to report, except I did make it to the gym today. That's it, that's all.

I will try to post more later, but I am still so very very tired. And I work this weekend.

Hope things are going well for everyoen.

happy2bme
05-07-2005, 11:31 AM
Good morning ladies. Geez I can't remember being this sick in oh so long. Several people at work have variations of it and it's devistating. I am still not up to par and my boss said her mom had it for 3 weeks :yikes: I do not tolerate being sick very well and I will be tying myself in knots if I'm not over this by Monday.

Even as sick as I was, barely eating, not keeping things down the scale has not budged. So wrong. Sometimes it feels like just what dah heck, why bother? I don't have it in me to fight the big fight each and every day, day after day. Big changes to see almost an insignificant loss. For me enthusiasm and stick to it-ness go hand in hand with seeing results.

Maybe it's just the week of dragging around like a slug talking, perhaps if I go and get some things done around the house, I'll find my enthusiam hiding in the corner of a cabinet or something.

Hope you all enjoy your weekend...

jollygirl
05-07-2005, 11:40 AM
Hi all. I hear you, Happy. I was up sick for most of last night. Subsequently, I won't have time to go ride today. I have to finish cleaning, take the dogs for a walk, I will have time for a brief workout (I figure it is better than nothing) then get to my part time job. Sigh. I either need a clone, or more hours in the day.

I just want to find my energy. Maybe it went to the Bahamas with your enthusiasm?? And I think everyone's motivation is at a family reunion in Arruba.

Where is Chachee with Bat when you need him??

RavenToy
05-08-2005, 08:37 AM
Wow! A bunch of sick chicks!!

Happy - I'm so sorry you're feeling so rotten! Please do NOT worry about a number on a scale right now. Just take good care of yourself. This too shall pass.

Jolly - You too. Your body needs rest.

Red - Just be careful you don't cut TOO far back. I'm sure you know the drill. :p

Today I need to run again, but it's hard when the sun is shining and the stables are calling. I'm still really sore across the low back/high up on my rear area, so .. no pilates. That just takes too much rolling across that area, and it HURTS still. Nothing broken, just really severe bruising. Thank goodness it doesn't interfere with running or riding. I'm going to try to get my run in before we go out to ride. I did ride yesterday again... and Friday, too. Have a great time with that. Mostly working on training Arashi - right now it's breaking at the poll and perhaps soon we'll be starting shoulder control. He's already starting to move through the shoulder a little bit with the training we're doing, so .. when I start asking him to do it, he'll 'know how' I just need to teach him to do it when I ask. It's exciting to see him responding to things *I* have taught him, you know?? Pretty soon, sidepassing from the back! We were getting there last fall when he injured his hip and we had to stop riding for so long. It's SO nice to be riding again!

Oh and ... No WONDER the scale went up!! I started my period yesterday. :eek: Where did THAT come from!?!?!

derrydaughter
05-08-2005, 12:41 PM
Hi everyone!
Sorry I was an absentee person for a few days.... this was truly my busiest week of the year. I don't even want to "go there" as far as telling you all what I ate, but it was a whirlwind and thankfully today most of all the crazy stuff is over with!
Firstly, just want to share that I came in first place and best of show at the quilt show this weekend that my guild had. I just had to do some celebrating! My daughter was in a play and we were busy with rehearsals and all kinds of things this past week, plus I was getting ready for and helping with the quilt show.
Whew.... I haven't weighed myself, haven't read all your posts, haven't eaten properly, but at least I can tell you all that I am happy.... for now at least.
Linda

RavenToy
05-08-2005, 12:59 PM
Glad to see you checking in, Linda!! Congrats on the quilt! Hope your daughter's play was great fun.

Ok .. I ran! Go me! Second week of Couch-to-5K DONE!

happy2bme
05-08-2005, 01:33 PM
:cb: :cb: :cb: Yay Raven for making 2 weeks on your 5k!

:bravo: :cp: :bravo: :cp: Linda for placing best of show!

Go chicks, go :cheer:

redballoon
05-08-2005, 08:13 PM
Wow, Linda, congratulations on the quilting prize. :encore: I wish you could show us a picture of it here! :yes: Don't worry about the eating or the weight!! :no: Enjoy yourself. You've needed some laughs and fun times. That's what celebrations are about, letting go and having fun. You can always get on the straight and narrow again soon.

Rave, happy, jolly, a big hello to you all. I'm under the gun again here and feeling awful because.. uh-oh..Raven, what was that about going overboard?!?!... not an expression in my vocabulary...it's ME!... and I had too many beers at the racetrack last night...ugh...oh, God, gotta write a story on the Japanese horses going to Hong Kong for this week's big race....hey, saw the Kentucky Derby on the screen here at Tokyo yesterday...any of you watch it. I love the buildup to it, the fanfare..never been there myself... ok, gotta run... take care all... so glad to see everyone posting regularly...chachee, apple, sassy...come on and say heh! :sunny:

jollygirl
05-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Hi all. Real quick check in,then I need to get my laundry put away and off to bed. Congrats on the quilting prize Derry and the 5k progress Raven.

I am just glad to have found some energy. It was hiding under the couch with the leftover dog hair.

derrydaughter
05-09-2005, 08:03 AM
I could probably show a photo of my quilt, not sure how... I know Jolly (think it was her?) put a photo up here, maybe she can tell me how.
I restarted another journal today, for about the millionth time.
Yesterday, I had an "all about me" day, it was mother's day after all. I napped, we went out to dinner (don't want to go "there" to tell you about that, either) and I took it easy. It was a nice day, a nice week and nice weekend.... but time to get in control, yet again, and move on with my personal choices for good health.
Take care everyone!
Linda

derrydaughter
05-09-2005, 08:14 AM
http://www.kodakgallery.com/PhotoView.jsp?Uc=b1dqjnvj.7v2ty0dr&Uy=edbntc&Ux=0&collid=193558494203&photoid=288458494203

Here is a link to one of my quilts, a snowy owl.

Here is a link to another, the one that was best of show, you can't see it well as it's what is called a "whole cloth" quilt, just quilting on beige fabric:

http://www.kodakgallery.com/PhotoView.jsp?Uc=b1dqjnvj.7v2ty0dr&Uy=edbntc&Ux=0&collid=193558494203&photoid=890168494203

If you are interested in the whole show, check out this link:
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?Uc=b1dqjnvj.7v2ty0dr&Uy=edbntc&Ux=0&collid=193558494203&page=1&sort_order=0

You can click on "slideshow" on the right and see about 60 photos of very beautiful quilts!

Thanks for you interest!
Linda

jollygirl
05-09-2005, 09:14 AM
Hey all. payroll Monday - my favorite. Especially as I can't get into my email and send the reports to my staff. Yeah.

I am feeling better finally. The energy I found under the bed gave a call to it's siblings, and they decided to come home. I actually got a post card from my motivation, and it said the flight was delayed, but should be back soon too.,

I did not, however, make it to the gym this morning. I was bad :( and stopped for fast food on the way home last night from my part time job. It didn't sit right, so I was up sick most of the night. I just have to face it that for some reason fast food, with the exception of subs, taco bell, etc, just doesn't do me any good. I generally feel sick after. Maybe it is the burger, or all the deep fry grease. Who knows? Just need to say no.

That said, have a wonderful day all.

Tanzie
05-09-2005, 04:16 PM
Hey girls.

Sorry about being MIA, I just haven't stopped running enough to sit down and type. And this one will just be a quick one.. because I've just about used all my spare time trying to read back at what I've missed. (And that's a lot!)

Lemme see if I can break this down quickly.

Congrats on the quilt winning, Linda! Those are really beautiful. I just finished my first quilting project myself. A baby blanket for my sis-in-law. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed putting it together.

Hope the hinney is feeling better, Raven! This is one instance where more cushion is a good thing! :D

And Jolly, when you checked your mailbox and found your motivation had sent you a postcard, you didn't happen to find a misdirected one addressed to me, did you? Mine has gone AWOL for the last few days/week. *erk*

Happy, I saw that you were feeling sick. How's it going? Better, I hope....

Hey, red! I've done the cutting back thing myself.. and rebound gets me everytime. I don't know why I can't seem to stick things out for the long haul. It's a really vicious cycle. Need to find my happy medium. Still chattin? Haven't seen you online in a while.. or perhaps I've just been missing you.

Hey, anyone know anything about Michael Thurmonds Total Body Makeover? My sister is on it and is pushing it at me hot and heavy. It sound something like SouthBeach with mini-meals? You also really restrict your sodium intake.
I just don't know if I can do anything that strict.

I'll peek in later~

redballoon
05-09-2005, 04:22 PM
Heh Derry, the quilts are beautiful. I had posted last night but now see my post didn't take. You have a lot of talent! Thanks for sharing those photos.
Jolly, Tanzie, hi there! Everybody, sorry, no time, no time.... doing the white hare thing again here....

:wave:

RavenToy
05-09-2005, 06:50 PM
Linda - Those quilts are gorgeous!!! I have NO talent or patience for that, and I am slightly jealous of those who do. ;) Very nice indeed.

Hey Tanzie - I haven't heard about that one... is there anything on it elsewhere on the board?

Jolly - I'm so glad you're feeling a little better!

Happy - *waving at the flyby* ;)

Red - Heh.. the white hare. Cute. ;) It's amazing you even find time to eat at all, let alone too much!

Well chicks, I'm taking today OFF. My legs are trashed. After I ran I went riding, and my legs were so worn out even before I started that I had one **** of a time getting on my pony. No stirrups... it doesn't LOOK that high up off the ground. *sigh* Anyway, with much scrambling and clawing, I made it up. And in the meantime praised myself effusively for the well done job of training my horse to not move while mounting. I think he was starting to fall asleep, actually... :p

So .. yeah. No workout at all today. Nothing. Tomorrow I'll try pilates again. Amazing that there are still some nice bruises back there. It's been a week! :eek: Then Wednesday start Couch-to-5K Week 3. Rah!

Food - Pretty good.
Water - Pretty good.
Exercise - Day off.

jollygirl
05-09-2005, 09:46 PM
Hey all. Just my usual fly by posting. Tanzie, I think the Motivation Family Reunion is almost over, so all the family members should be coming home soon. Raven, hope your butt is better :) I am off to bed. Oh wait, laundry, then bed. I need to put some away if I want a place to sleep.

ttfn

RavenToy
05-09-2005, 10:30 PM
:lol: Jolly - You and I have the same laundry routine? Out of the dryer onto the bed.

happy2bme
05-09-2005, 11:44 PM
Hi chickies,

Tanzie, I did Micheal Thurmond's 6WBMO 2 years ago. I did lose weight on it, I did learn that sugar / carbs are bad very bad for my body type. It is strict. You have to eat 5 to 6 times a day with mini meals. It is hard to keep up with. When my routine changed, I couldn't keep up with it and fell off the wagon. He makes a mighty enticing infomercial. It must be playing again as I've seen various people chatting about it on the boards. There are 2 versions - the 6 week program which I could never do which is supposed to whittle the weight down fast and his regular program. I can't tell you that it's like South Beach because what you eat depends alot on your body type. For my body type - ecto blimp - fat all over - yes, carbs are not my friend and it's like South Beach except I got to eat white rice. I am tired of defending the program - some here bash it all to heck and back, it worked for me when others including WW did not. But it is hard to stick with tho it does teach you foods that are good fuel vs things that don't work well for your metabolism. And... it is low fat, low carb, low salt and basically you give up processed foods. I can do very well with fresh raw or steamed veggies, grilled fish, chicken, lean pork or beef and low sugar fruits - all summer long. But look out when the winter comes. If your sister has the program, take a peek and see what you think but if you can't stay with a strict program, don't waste the over $100 the materials cost. And since everything is fresh food, it's kinda expensive too.

Raven, it's good to hear that you are back in the drill sargent push mode again, tho wisely taking a rest when needed. Keep it up girl!

Enjoyed your "family reunion" story Jolly. If I can ever figure out the lure of why I keep eating foods I know make me sick, I'll let you know. But don't hold your breath waiting - I think it happens to us all.

Red, I waved at you as you zoomed by :wave: Thanks for the cool breeze!

Lovely quilts Linda! Thanks for posting pictures. How long have you been quilting?

On another note, it was a very sad day for me at work. One of my teammates - a truly wonderful young guy in his mid 20's was shot and killed in his house on Saturday. They don't know all the details, they think perhaps he startled an intruder or burglar. He leaves behind a wife and 2 very young children. It's so hard to believe, here we were laughing on Friday, playing tricks on one of our other co-workers. I have email from him, he's on instant messenger tho not logged on right now - how can he be gone? And did I say that he was just a heckova nice guy - that I really enjoyed working with even tho I didn't know him for very long. I'm stunned...

RavenToy
05-10-2005, 06:57 AM
Happy... I'm so sorry. Things that remind us how fleeting life can be, and how we had best enjoy every moment we have. My heart goes out to his wife, his kids, his family. And to you. *gentle hug* That's so sad.

redballoon
05-10-2005, 07:21 AM
Wow, happy, I'm so sorry to hear about your coworker. That's awful! I wonder what happened, if it was a mere random shooting or what. The sudden loss must be such a shock for you. I am so sorry. His family must be devastated. I'm just really, really sorry to hear this. Take care of yourself.

jollygirl
05-10-2005, 08:42 AM
Oh, Happy, I am so sorry to hear about your co-worker. How horrible. Why do things like this happen?

Well, I have a long way to go, but have had losses the last two weeks. My eating is getting more sensible. I am exercising. Though I still need to get weight training back in here. It was rather funny. I was getting ready for work after working out and this older woman just starts talking to me. Asking me if I lift weights and telling me how her doctor told her she has to start, because of bone density issues. Was this a sign or what??

I don't know about the rest of the "family," but a small part of my motivation has made its way home. Hurray.

Have a good day all.

RavenToy
05-10-2005, 05:56 PM
Ohhhh my god my body ... *lol* tried pilates this morning. Lasted about 2 minutes on that floor, even with the mat. Ok, so my butt isn't healed yet. And my left hip is twinging. How dare it.

Tomorrow I run again. I'm feeling less puny. Still really tired. Money anxieties.

Richard is out of town - visiting his mom. We're kind of taking advantage of that buy schlepping around the house more than we ordinarily would.

Food - Very good.
Water - Not good at all. Too busy at work today.
Exercise - :o Rolling around for a few minutes on the floor. Needs work. :D

jollygirl
05-10-2005, 06:19 PM
I don't know Raven. Certain types of rolling around on the floor would burn a LOT of calories. ;) Oh wait, you did say Richard was out of town. . . .

I feel much better after making it to the gym. I MUST find a way to start getting weights in again. I must I must I must. otherwise, good. I am making better food choices. Not perfect, but better. My goal is to get back to where I am not lying on my little weight chart stripe here by the end of the month. How bad is that?

Have a good evening all.

redballoon
05-10-2005, 06:47 PM
Hi guys, I sense a turn for the better amongst most of your posts.

Tanzie, the motivation may wear off to you as well soon so hang in there. Raven, jolly, good to hear you're getting out and moving and making better choices. Raven, your posts sound so much more upbeat than before so I hope things are going a little more smoothly for you. Jolly, you've had losses the past two weeks!? That's great! Keep it up.

I know about the weight tracker thing. I had registered 72.8 kgs once and then not after so I've been waiting for a number below that to change it. I don't want to change it up. Weight fluctuates so much. There seems to be this 2-3 kg (5 lbs about) range in there where it just tends to hover. I want that hovering range to go much lower.

I am also realizing that I just have to eat much, much less food period, always. That's all there is to it. I don't have the height to be eating much at all. Well, I have definitely lost weight and my clothes are fitting better. It feels good! And I look sharper again, if not younger, but yes, maybe that too. ;)

Ok, hoping to get under 70 kg relatively soon. Wishing you all the best! :flow1:

jollygirl
05-11-2005, 06:04 AM
Good morning all. And I do feel it is a good morning. Getting to the gym has definitely helped my mood. The two weeks of losses help my motivation. It is a lot easier to say no to junk food when I think of the scale going down. It is amazing how success breeds success. now, I just have to manage my time better so I can do the weights. I know, I know, I keep talking about it. I guess I figure if I talk about it, eventually I will do something about it.

Red, glad your clothes are fitting better, and you sound like you also are feeling better.

Have a wonderful day all.

derrydaughter
05-11-2005, 08:14 AM
Lots of posts to catch up on!
Wow, so sorry to read about that shooting, yikes! You gotta wonder what has happened to our world at times.
Thanks for the kind words about my quilts. I worked hard and am feeling awfully relieved that the show is over with now. I now have got to pick up where I left off with a project to make quilts for families of soldiers who died in Iraq. Busy, and it just never ends, sadly.
Yesterday, I felt FAT. My long standing disregard for my weight loss program and slight re-gain of weight caught up to me. I spent much of the day in jeans that were feeling too tight and being angry at myself.
This morning, it is truly a "back to basics" day as our thread is titled.
I'm been blowing it week after week and have not kept up my work that was going so well. I can't make excuses, I only know that I have reached a point of "no return" in feeling those jeans against my thighs and stomach. What a jerk I've been.
Linda

Tanzie
05-11-2005, 04:22 PM
Hey girlies,

Just getting a few words in before having to go meet the bus at the end of the driveway. We've been 'blacklisted' again! *grrr* Personally, I think she just doens't like having to drive all the day up here for just two kids.

So sorry to hear about your co-worker, happy. Horribly sad for his wife and children...

Well, I didn't walk today. The dad-gum deer flies are horrible, and my usual trek through the woods is now a gauntlet of biting, grumbling and constant swatting. I look like I'm trying to fly, as much as my arms have been flapping the last few mornings!

Glad to see that everyone seems to be on the up swing!

Oh, happy-- thanks for the info on Michael Thurmond. I had looked a while back on the board but didn't really find any posts on it.

Anyway, it's time for the bus, so I'll yell back at you later!

:wave:

RavenToy
05-11-2005, 06:45 PM
http://www.3fatchicks.com/journals/index.php/weblog/comments/28404/

This was just too good.

jollygirl
05-12-2005, 08:32 AM
Wow. That is powerful, Raven.

OK. Two things for this morning. First, a Hooray. I worked until 10 last night at my part time job. I had to be to work by 6:30 this morning to pass meds at my day job. I had set the alarm early enough to jog, but woke up still not feeling safe to try it. So, instead of sitting on the couch, I packed my gym bag and squeezed in a quick workout. Hooray.

The bad news is that I am feeling hungry ALL the time. I am sure it is psychological, but I mind and it matters. I just can't stop eating. The scale is going down, so I guess I am not eating as much as it feels like, but I hate feeling like this.


Sigh. It's always something.

redballoon
05-12-2005, 08:42 AM
Well, I hear your jolly, on the hungry all the time thing. I'm starting to eat again and it's not good. From tomorrow, it's back on the straight and narrow. Seems to be the only way for me to knock some fat off.

RavenToy
05-12-2005, 05:22 PM
Hey chicks-

Not doing so great on exercise here, but I'm doing great on food and water. I'm down one more pound... hope that will be two more by Saturday morning.

Exercise will pick up again. :)

I get the hungries once in a while too... I don't like it. It's very annoying. *lol* It's one thing to eat because I want to, but to eat because I have to!?? Aw, that's just not cool. ;)

jollygirl
05-12-2005, 06:23 PM
Well, one good thing anyway. I was really scoping out the candy when I did my grocery shopping tonight. I was able to ask myself if I REALLY wanted what I was looking at. The answer was no, so I didn't. I'll take any victory I can get.

redballoon
05-12-2005, 07:42 PM
You know, jolly, just looking at your last post makes me think about these questions we ask ourselves. Faced with some yummy thing or the prospect of exercise, I think the real question we should be asking ourselves is not whether we want that thing right in front of us, or whether we want to go out the door and sweat and exhaust ourselves.. I mean, sure, the probable answer, is YES! and NO, not really, repectively. The question we should be asking ourselves is whether we want to get thin and/or reach our goals of fitness. This is the actual choice, not a mere staying away from unhealthy, indulgent foods or exercising or not. It is SOO hard to keep the big picture in front of us. But, I, for one, am going to try.

RavenToy
05-12-2005, 10:32 PM
I just wanna have fun.

Yes, I realize that, on the surface, sounds quite junvenile and shallow.

But really, what I want to try to learn to live is joy. Not momentary instant gratification of M&Ms, but the feeling of joy when I run well, or the ability to do hooves without feeling like I'm going to keel over. I love the way my muscles feel when I'm doing pilates, the sense of control that carries over into any movement I make throughout my day. The feeling of power when I lift.

I wanna have fun.

I don't want to hide behind a few seconds of medicating myself with food.

Which is not to say that I don't enjoy food too. There is a balance, though. I don't want to be addicted to food.

Has anyone heard anything from Chach?? I sent her an e-mail and haven't gotten a reply. :( I'm worried about her.

RavenToy
05-13-2005, 06:48 AM
Yar.

Week 3 Day 1 of Couch-to-5K done. A little behind schedule, but back on plan.

I like the sweat.

redballoon
05-13-2005, 06:53 AM
Good for you Raven!

derrydaughter
05-13-2005, 08:44 AM
Hello everyone.
Raven, that was powerful stuff. I didn't think that kind of thing was allowed on 3FC, but you go girl!
I'm worried about Chach as well now that you mention it. I hope she's ok.
When I am away from the threads I am on, I am NOT always being a "good girl" in terms of my diet and exercise. It's almost like I am afraid to come here at those times. Hope she is not totally off the wagon, at least.
Raven, I just want to have fun too. Why is it that I associate having fun with eating? I don't have any answers to that.
Today is a rough day, my dad is still not well and things seem to be getting worse. I must prepare.... he's got bone cancer and is 82 years old, what do I expect? Daddy's little girl is sitting here wondering what life could ever be like without my dad. Cancer sucks. Just sharing that this lovely sunny spring day where it feels surrealistic. I sit here waiting for the man to come and clean my furnace and then preparing to go out, run errands, pay bills and grocery shop. Life goes on, yet the surrealism part hasn't changed.
Hope I can shake this mood.
Linda

jollygirl
05-13-2005, 08:50 AM
Hi all. I have to admit an "oops." Chachee is well. She just has not been able to get onto the thread for some reason. I was supposed to say hi to all of you from her. Sorry :( I forgot.

Derry, I think a bit of us always stays daddy's little girl. I realized that I am still trying to please him, and expecting him to be superman. My thoughts are with you as you are going through this.

Have a good day all!

derrydaughter
05-13-2005, 08:56 AM
Thanks, Jolly, for the update on Chach, I wonder what is wrong with 3FC that she can't get on the thread? Should we maybe consider starting the June thread a bit early to see if this helps?
I have always thought of my dad as kind of a superman person and it's awfully hard to see him and deal with him when he needs ME to help him. He's gone so downhill. When time periods go by and I don't see him for awhile, mentally, I attach him to a time period when his hair was not so gray and he didn't shuffle when he walked and he was allert, energetic and a person I could call upon to "fix" anything in my life. Now, all of a sudden the superman person that I could always rely on is needing ME to be the superperson.... and this is not something that I am dealing with well at all.
I brought up assisted living with mom yesterday on the phone and got the usual "I don't want to talk about it" response with an abrupt hang up. How long can they go on like this? The turmoil in my brain just wants peace, serenity. I need courage and at least I'm thinking, today, that over-eating is not going to solve a single thing here.
Well, off to get some things done, life goes on.
Linda, wallowing in this

Apple Blossom
05-13-2005, 05:38 PM
Hi everyone! I just used up all my free time catching up with old posts!
I'll try to log on more often. I've been pigging out lately and even the walking is slacking off so I need a kick in the butt!!! I gained back a pound too. :mad: And to make things even more difficult, I got my period for the first time since my son was born. That's a year and 9 months! I didn't miss it at all!!!! That's probably why I'm eating alot. I need to get a grasp of my self control......Like I said, I hope to post more often....

redballoon
05-13-2005, 07:17 PM
Derry, I am sorry to hear you are feeling so bad now. It is such a difficult time for you. The pain of loss, of what your father was, and the anticipation of a greater loss, is something that you will have to go through. There is no way around it, as you know. It's a natural part of life. I, too, may be dealing with it soon. I dealt with the slow death of my mother when I was a teen and in my early 20s and I didn't have the ability to step away from it and look at it in a more accepting way as a natural stage of life, no matter when it may happen. Maybe age gives this to us. I wanted to ask if you have ever read any of the books by Dr. Elisabeth Kubler Ross. She has written a great much on death, dying, grieving. I highly recommend your reading something by her. If anything, it can help to be reading about this as it is something most people don't have the words or the philosophy for. Please look her up.

happy2bme
05-13-2005, 11:08 PM
Linda, I know how difficult it is to switch roles where you become the caretaker of your caretakers. I watched my dad slowly die of heart disease. I watched my brother rapidly die of bone cancer. Neither of them wanted to admit they were dying, I didn't want to accept losing them. There came a time however, when I accepted that we all have a fixed time on this earth and whether we like it or not, we can't change things. Instead I turned my attention to cherishing the time I had left with them. It is hard to put aside the fear, anger and grief but rather than fight with your mother, do what you can to just be with your dad. Talk about anything and everything. Ask him all the questions about his life so you can pass on his legacy. Tell him how much he means to you - we don't do that nearly enough with the ones we love and care about. Perhaps your mom hangs up because to discuss the issue of in home care as difficult or as necessary as that might be would be to acknowledge that there's something wrong. :dunno: We all have to dig deep and find a way to deal with it in our own way. I spent alot of time just talking to my dad - and I'm glad I did, sometimes it was bittersweet but mostly it just felt good connecting with him. :grouphug: And I second Red's suggestion on the works of Dr. Ross.

Hello's to the rest of the crew, I will be back to post tomorrow...

derrydaughter
05-14-2005, 08:24 AM
Good morning ladies (or evening in Red's case). Thanks for the advice and I'll try to find Dr. Ross's books in my travels. So, after saying I wasn't going to end up letting all that is going on ruin my diet, what did I do yesterday? I went to MacDonalds and lbew 18 points (out of 22 I get in a day) on a meal..... when will I get it that my emotions are NOT permission to eat? It's like I am two people, the first person is like that inner diva I used to talk about (where the heck did she go?) who wants to be good and then the other part of me just goes along a merry path of eating what she wants and screwing things up.
Well, I have no answers, but all I can do is scrape my sorry self off the floor and begin yet again to try. I'm not giving up.
Linda

RavenToy
05-14-2005, 09:10 AM
Linda -

I can fully relate to the surreal feeling. Been through that with my mom, my dad is in a care home, and even when I lost my dog. When I lost my mom after years of her battling hepatitis, I felt like I was wrapped in cotton for a long time. I still can't remember most of that year. The pain of loss really never goes away. It just gets buffered by time. My father is in much the same shape. No cancer, alzheimers. It reduces me to tears on a regular basis when I think about how strong and independent he was, reduced to bedridden and mentally not even there anymore. A shell. It hurts a lot. And I have to admit much of it is hurt for me. While my father and I have had a tumultuous relationship at best, filled with many painful episodes, he is still my father. And in the last couple years before his accident, he became the father I always wanted. And then that was taken away from me. I live daily with the thought that I really wish he would just die - the few times he would come back to us he was so miserable, knowing what was happening to him. It is heartbreakingly difficult to deal with my emotions. I grieve, but I can't. I want to move on, but I can't. I want to let go, but I can't. There is no end in sight for him, or for us. I'm so sorry you have to bear this burden, but you are not alone.

What I can say is stop bashing yourself. God, please woman, stop it. Am I 'sorry'? Do you see my posts and think how pathetic I am? Or Jolly? Or Red or Happy or any of the rest of us!? Then why, for heaven's sake, would you even begin to think any of those thoughts about yourself? Is it OK to feel that way about you when you wouldn't even dare to think that way about someone you love?? *bop* Stop it!

We are human, we are doing the best we can, we are coping in a sick world.

I tell my daughter... you are your own last line of defense. If you do not love yourself, work for yourself, and take care of yourself, then who the **** will? Yeah. You sure can't depend on anyone else to do it, now can you? No, you're not alone all the time, but no matter what anyone says, there are times when you will be. Alone with yourself, your thoughts, your tapes, your demons.

We must fit into our own skin. We must hold ourselves tightly and care. Lest we have nothing left to give others, yes? Lest we have nothing left to give to ourselves in our moments of desperation, yes?

Now .. forget about what happened. Look forward to the next minute, 5 minutes, 10 minutes... whatever you can. That's all it takes.

Sorry .. off my soapbox now. Off to wipe the tears from my face, and charge into the day, right!? ;)

I'm trying to figure out what I *want* to do today. I *want* to run again. But I'm afraid I'll overtax my legs again, like I did last week. Total trash, they were, yes indeed. SOOOoooooo I am thinking pilates (yes, nose wrinkle and all - not my favorite) and then maybe .. maybe ... am I ready for this ..... a light upper body weight lifting working? *big eyes* Hmmmm? I'm teasing myself with that one.

HEY!!!! The sponge is availabe in the US again!!! I just ordered some. :o Perhaps one less worry in my life till I can get my tubies tied? That would be SO cool.

Apple - I hated it when I started my periods again after my kids were born each time, too. I think that's one of the reasons I breast fed as long as I could.. *lol* I'm so self centered! Consider yourself kicked in the butt! :drill: Come back ASAP and report a basic success! Water? Food OP for one day? Worked out for a day? ANYTHING? ;) You can do it.

Edited -

I tried to do pilates. I really did. But I do believe I bruised my bone (not the tailbone, more like the pelvis up high to the right of the tail) when I fell. Heck, maybe that was the crack I heard, it wasn't my helmet. ;) ANYway, pilates was VERY out of the question. I mean, pain is one thing, but feeling like someone is stabbing a knife into my back is NOT going to happen if I can help it.

Didn't want to run because I'd trash my legs and I really want to go riding today. I know what happens when I do THAT. Poor Arashi.

So I lifted. I wasn't planning on adding that for another couple weeks, but.. I wanted to do something. So I did shoulders/arms. Very very light. I do want to be able to move over the next couple days, yes? Tomorrow I'll do chest/back. I'll do butt/thighs/calves on a weekday that I'm not riding. Or running. *blink*

Ok then .. back to your regularly scheduled programming...

jollygirl
05-14-2005, 12:11 PM
Good morning all. It is so very hard to deal with the loss of a loved one. Whether it is through death, illness, or something else just making them not who they were before. what else can I say, Derry, except to take one day at a time, and DO make sure you tell them the things you want and need to while you can. Life is too short for regrets.

Congrats, RAven, on finding some exercise to do. Hopefully your back is feeling better soon.

I am off to finish cleaning, ride, and hit the gym. Have a good day all.

redballoon
05-14-2005, 03:45 PM
Heh guys. Early Sunday morning here. Resolve kind of flew out the window yesterday with the discovery of shortbread cookies at work. Still, I nibbled on baby carrots and radishes and had a big salad so eating wise all was not lost. In fact, it was quite good. However, the fact that I have not been moving much at all because I've been stuck to the computer with work means I haven't seen much for my eating efforts, or rather, efforts NOT to eat. Still, I'm sure sometime soon I should get it all together. I DID follow what I had said in an earlier post though. I have been changing the questions I ask myself. I don't ask if I want the food in front of me. I ask if I want to be lean. It's bullshit to be saying, yes, I want to lose weight, and then be eating and drinking like I didn't care. If there's one thing I don't like in others and myself it's a bunch of talk with little or no action. Well, I'm calling myself on this and I'm doing quite well. If my schedule would allow for my exercise I would. As it is, the little bits of time I have to fit something it, I can't. I'm too tired and not taken to beating on myself. It's too high a price. Still.. there are times I can and I want to grab them.

Raven, great post. I really liked what you said. Wish I had had a mother like you!

Jolly, keep pluggin' away. You sound like you're doing OK!

Linda, you're not a "sorry self." I mean, really, get some perspective here, OK? Yes, I know the feeling, of course. But you have to remember, that even when you're not "doing good" you're still way, way more ahead of the game than a heck of a lot of people. I mean, you're no where even near 200 lbs, let alone 300 or 400. Think of people who are still dealing with much bigger demons. You are not a beginner, still struggling with the basics, falling WAY off the wagon, maybe never even having seen the wagon yet. **** no, you're like ultra-advanced! :lol: So, come on, give yourself a break and take it easy. The other night I was out with a guy, whose gut seems to get bigger everytime I see him. Well, he wanted me to eat and I was saying, "no, I can't, I've got to get this weight off." And he just shook his head, and said, "oh, please, if you're going to talk about being fat, then what about me...?" Well, what about him? I thought, but still, yeah, so what, it's no big thing. This guy is a highly successful racehorse breeder, rolling in money and doing things, big things, flitting around between here and Ireland every few weeks. If the size of his gut is a reflection of his life...well, then... give me a gut! :lol: Anyhow, Derry, your present situation makes it hard to "lighten up" I know, but at least don't come down on yourself here. Laugh a bit, even just a little. Think of things bigger than yourself, no real pun intended but perhaps fitting........ok?

RavenToy
05-14-2005, 07:32 PM
Red - Thanks... :) That's sweet of you.

Jolly - Thanks .. I hope my butt feels better soon too. It's annoying. I'm glad you had a good ride. :D

I have to gush. I had a wonderful ride this afternoon!! Teaching my son the basics of making Arashi move, give, turn, and back up. We're working on power steering now that I have power brakes. :D I worked on my sitting trot today, and of course, it's all bareback. And for about two strides today, I HAD it. I was relaxed, and felt PERFECT on that horse. That's the first time that's ever happened. I've trotted plenty in saddles... but bareback? It was like we were moving together instead of me just sitting on his back. I know it was only for a couple strides, but I figure hey... that's how it starts. Hopefully next time I'll get it again, maybe for longer. And eventually, that's how I'll ride. Relaxed, comfortable, as part of a team. It was exciting. :)

Then we got caught in a downpour. :D That was pretty fun, too.

derrydaughter
05-15-2005, 07:40 AM
Thanks for the wise words, guys. I'll try to put it all in perspective and think today! I shall try to be more positive. I am going to see my mom and dad tomorrow and will take them to lunch and enjoy them for now.
Trying hard,
Linda

RavenToy
05-15-2005, 12:23 PM
All we can do is keep going, Linda. I hope today goes well for you.

Well, not that I have much money (ha! understatement) but I just spent $10 of it on a book I've been wanting forever called Centered Riding. Got it used. Now I can't wait for it to get here! :D

My daughter is getting me all hyped up about DDR... it would be SO cool if I could scrape together $50 for a couple mats (the cheap part) and the software (the expensive part). I think she and I would have a total blast with it. And talk about great exercise!!! :yikes:

Well .. lookie there. The scale might be blipping on me, but can you blame me for being tickled pink? I just hope I'm not completely depressed tomorrow. As of this morning, I'm 6.5 pounds down in 3 weeks! I so rock. ;)

Today is either Couch-to-5K Week 3 Day 2, chest/back, or lower body. I'm not sure yet. BF gets home tonight from being gone all week to visit his mom. :s:

Water needs work today, was good yesterday.
Food - Uhm... I guess I should eat something.
Exercise - I'll let you know later.

RavenToy
05-15-2005, 01:25 PM
Couch-to-5K Week 3 Day 2

Done

*rawr* *flex*

:s:

Apple Blossom
05-15-2005, 01:36 PM
Hooray Raven!!! :cp: You are an inspiration! See what happens when things click?? Oh, I hope I can get back on an exercise schedule like yours. It sounds very reasonable and do-able and it obviously WORKS!!
Today I am feeling really yucky and bloated so I'm going to try really hard to keep my food intake LOW. I had a bagel for breakfast but I think I'll just eat fruits and veggies the rest of the day.
I've spoken to two women at my daughters school who are in the same boat as me, they both have babies about the age of mine too and need to unload the baby weight. We all are way way way out of shape. So these other two have joined a gym. Butterfly or something, same concept as Curves. I am not willing to unload the cash for a gym membership although the more I think about it, I don't think I can expect to get "back in shape" without any weight lifting. I also have the problem of my husband and all his traveling, I'd need some kind of child care. But it's definately more a $$ thing. So I'm going to see how these other two seem to do with their programs and I'll plug along with mine. If their results are better, I'll figure out a way to manage something like that. A secret challenge.....they've been doing it for 3 weeks or so too....
Derry- my mom has been in assisted living for a couple of months now. (she had a stoke a few years ago) She's in a great place, but she really just wants to go home....My impression is that assisted living is a great thing, it has really taken a load of my brother, who had been caring for her. She just needs to mentally adjust. Sure its hard to leave home, but the quality of life is really so much better for her now, she just has to embrace it. My husbands parents sould be thinking about this step too, but they are also reluctant to leave home. We'll keep trying. It's difficult to see my mom the way she is sometimes but I am enjoying being able to see her every few days instead of twice a year, and she can enjoy her grand children too.
Think positive and be happy!!!

RavenToy
05-15-2005, 01:53 PM
Apple - I went and got a cheap starter set of free weights, a used bench with a leg extension and hit http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html and http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html to set up routines for myself. I just can't get into gyms. OTOH, if you're the kind of person who likes the gym thing, joining something like curves might be a really good thing for you! Whatever it is, you have to find some reason to stick with it. For me, running is a freedom. Sometimes it is hard to do, but the times that it just happens are fantastic. A drug, definitely. Weight lifting for me is a rush, pure and simple. I'm a power freak. I admit that... power gets me going. And my own personal power is a rush and a half. I *love* lifting. I like pilates because even at my weight, in a couple weeks, you start seeing definition in your abs. That's just too cool for words. There has to be a payoff, or you won't stick with it.

derrydaughter
05-15-2005, 03:55 PM
Apple, thanks for the info on the elder people in your life. I think my own parents would be VERY happy if they just take that step, but there certainly would be things that they would miss about having their own home. Their lives are rather unhappy right now, for sure, but they fear the unknown. The place I would love to see them in would allow them to come for two weeks to "try it" yet even then, they are unhappy.
I am heading up there tomorrow for a visit, shopping for them and to help out a bit. We're going out to lunch and I hope to be able to convince them to at least try. We'll see.
I spent all morning cooking for them so I can bring them food to just heat up, frozen. Nothing like my good home cooking on help the spirits along a bit.
Raven, is DDR dance revolution? I might have that here, bought it for my daughter and she hated it and said she "felt stupid" when trying it. I could have thrown the mat away thought I think we might still have the software but I will look for it and if I find it, I'll be sending it your way! It is one that goes in an X-Box, is that what you'd be looking for?
Sounds like you are on a roll with your exercise!
Linda

RavenToy
05-15-2005, 04:43 PM
Aw Linda .. that's so sweet of you, but .. I have the PS2, not the X-Box. Darn. *smite* :p

I hope your lunch goes well. I think it's absolutely so sweet of you to cook for your parents, too. I hope they at least check out the assisted living. It sounds like that would be a great option for them. Getting old sucks.

derrydaughter
05-16-2005, 04:57 AM
Raven, if you really want one of those try e-bay, that is where I got this one. I thought it would help Jamie's weight loss efforts, but she hated it.
Thanks for your kind words about my parent's situation.
I don't know if I'm going to make it today as Jamie was sick last night and I may have to be home here with her and also don't want to bring potential germs up there with me, the last thing they need.
Linda

RavenToy
05-16-2005, 08:38 AM
G'morning, chicks!

This morning was chest/back. First check/back split in over 9 months. As with arms, I did VERY light weights to establish that baseline. It was a bit boring - unsatisfying, I love lifting heavy but I don't dare till I know I can handle it. I hate flies. I really do - but I love what they do for my delts. Oh BAYbee... I miss my delts.

The drop on the scale apparently wasn't a blip. I really am down that much. That so rocks.

It is SO good to be feeling alive again. My body is waking up, and it seems to be dragging the rest of me along with it.


Linda - I checked on E-Bay .. It's about $50 for the two pads and the software we want. I'll keep checking to see if I can get it cheaper. But I really do appreciate the offer. That's so nice of you! V and I *love* dance remix music, and we LOVE to dance, so ... I think we'd have a blast. I hope Jamie feels better soon!

So ... food, water, exercise - all on track!

jollygirl
05-16-2005, 09:25 AM
Good morning all. Sorry I was MIA, but I was doing a lot with family over the weekend, and just had no time. Time. That is really what I need a lot more of lately. I just don't know where it is all going. I didn't get to the gym this weekend. And, for the first time in a long time, I am PMSing. I saw it on the scale this morning. I felt it in the food cravings I was having all weekend. And I REALLY felt it in my overemotional, less than rational reactions to things. Aren't hormones grand?

I did drag my butt into the gym this morning, which I am glad of. I MUST restart my running program tomorrow. That is the only way I can get a little extra sleep the mornings after I work, and Sunday mornings when I work. Plus, I really want to do this. Suck it up, Buttercup!

I hope to keep the cravings monster at bay today. I hope everyone has a wonderful day.
:wave:

Apple Blossom
05-16-2005, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the web sites Raven! The Stumptuous.com not only is really funny, but we share the same philosophy, you don't need alot of fancy gadgets and stuff to exercise. I am one who just can't understand the exercise in place idea. I'd mush rather put on a pair of sneakers and actually GO somewhere and breath the fresh air and feel the sun.....
I'm just thinking that a gym for weight lifting and the financial comittment might force me to actually go and do it. But like I said, I'm going to try to set up something here and kick my self in the butt to get moving. I even have a really nice leg extention bench I inherited from my brother-in-law. I should use the %#@!! thing.
On a bad note, I totally screwed up yesterday by eating cheese enchiladas and BEER. And then I sat on the couch all evening munching on granola even though I wasn't hungry. So, being Monday, a good day to start...here we go again!!! :dizzy:

RavenToy
05-17-2005, 06:56 AM
Couch-to-5K Week 3 Day 3 DONE!

Ever have one of those days where everything was going wrong with your workout, but you made it through anyway? And then you had that sense of satisfaction inside where you felt like you could have a little smile on your face all day long. Like you told the demons 'screw off' and they did? It's a good feeling.

I haven't looked at Week 4 yet. I'm afraid it's going to intimidate me. :o I know Week 3 was really intimidating, but I did it. So ... I'll just keep that in mind.

Food - Good - tummy was a little upset this morning though.
Water - I need to drink more in the evenings. I'm doing good through the day, but I wake up in the mornings dehydrated because I stop drinking water as soon as I get off work, pretty much. I'm going to make a point, if nothing else, of drinking at least one big glass with dinner, and one right before I go to bed. That's a start.
Exercise - Right on track, other than not being able to do pilates still. I must have really bruised those bones. Good landing, eh? :p

Tomorrow morning will be my lower body split, I guess. I should work that up tonight so I can just go right into it - I spend too much time checking e-mail, etc. in the mornings before my workouts. I need to stop that.

Hopefully riding tonight, if my legs aren't trash. Ground work if they are. :lol:

jollygirl
05-17-2005, 08:51 AM
Good morning all. Just have time for a quick postk, before off and running for the day.

Well, I did it. After being scared to try again for several weeks, Mayhem and I restarted the running program this morning. Hurray!! I don't run, I waddle - but hey, I did it. I do need to set up a new route, as I go by blocks, not minutes, and the route I had set up has 15 blocks going in one direction and 3 coming back. Consisitency might help - at least until I am runnign the whole thing.

So now to tackle the weights . . .

Hey, Raven - I am out to ride tonight too :) Red, how about you? All our other riders??

NOw if I can just stop the eating.

Have a good day all.

redballoon
05-17-2005, 08:53 AM
Heh, jolly, yup, I rode today!! :) Good luck! Happy riding!

RavenToy
05-17-2005, 10:54 AM
Holy crap... I just took a look at Week 4. :yikes: The intervals consist of two 3 minute runs and two 5 minute runs. With only 1.5 and 2.5 minute walk intervals! :cry: Well, I have a couple days to let it scare me before I try it.

Jolly - V wants me to get up on Eve tonight. I'm thinking I have one heck of a time getting up on Arashi bareback, and he's only like 14.2 or something... Eve is pushing 16 hands!! I look at her and I think of mountain climbing, you know? *lol* If my legs are toast tonight there's no WAY I can get my butt up on her, I know it.

We shall see. I'm double tasking poor Arashi - first he's my lesson horse for Machine so he learns all the cues. Then I get up on him to work with him on slightly more advanced stuff. V needs to learn to tone it down on Eve. She wants to canter and have fun, but Eve really needs conditioning and training. Walk trot and lots of bridle work. V is bored with that... kind of makes me a little cranky. She's got a fantastic seat, but lately she wants a thrill instead of the long road to training. Not that I blame her, but I refuse to allow Eve to suffer injury because of V's impatience. ANYway... horse stuff. :D

jollygirl
05-17-2005, 09:17 PM
Well, again I made some food choices that were better. Not where I should be though.

I did make it to the barn. Still trying to figure out why we are having problems cantering clockwise. I am sure it is something with how I am sitting, as we weren't having problems before my back went out. I just can't figure out what. And of course I am frustrated.

Here's to a good day.

jollygirl
05-18-2005, 09:20 AM
Good morning all. Made it to the gym again. Hurray. Always glad when I win the fight against gravity and get my butt off the couch. I also made an appt to learn a new type of weights at the gym. I am hoping that motivates me to start them again. I just don't like them. Even though I do like the results. I don't know why. So whatever it takes to do them again.

I decided to do some "interval" training with the horse. I am hoping if we build things up, I may figure out what I am doing wron, plus it will reduce the risk of burning out on the bad side, and give us some "success" to build on. I could be crazy, but I have to try something to make it less frustrating for both of us.

Have a wonderful day all.

RavenToy
05-18-2005, 09:30 AM
Jolly - Going back to where you know you can get a yes is never a bad idea. It may give you the answer to the problem, you never know. Good job on getting to the gym! What new weights are these?

Well - I did NOT make it to ride. I dunno why, just felt like I needed to be available at home for some weird reason. Maybe tonight, we shall see.

This morning was my first lower body split in over 9 months. Very remedial. Lunges and squats with 10 pounds plus bar. Quad and hamstring curls with 25 pounds. Calf raises. Wibbledy legs. Been a long time since I've walked with my legs trying to lock knees at every step. *sigh*

Realizing that my biggest obstacle this time is not eating, working out, or drinking enough water. My biggest obstacle is me. My biggest obstacle is my fear of attention. I like invisible. I must resolve this in me. It's not even just a discomfort.... it's near to terror, and I know it stems from my childhood. Invisibility is safety. If no one notices you, they can't hurt you. The few times I've been slender in my life, I've made terrible choices which resulted in more pain, only proving (in my twisted brain) the theory that fat is safe. I know better. I want too much to stay fat. I don't know how I'm going to work through this, but I know I can. God I hope I can. I do not want to run screaming into food and fat for comfort anymore when people start seeing me again.

derrydaughter
05-18-2005, 03:35 PM
Hi guys, no time to read all the posts. You guys have been chatty! I weighed in 3.4 pounds heavier yesterday at WW and I'm pretty sad, but no one is to blame but me. Time to try harder.
Hope all is well, looks like (on a quick review just now of posts) people are into their riding lots this week, maybe more than usual?
I wish I had an outlet like that, but riding was never my thing. I think I need to take some time to smell the roses.
Linda

happy2bme
05-18-2005, 11:38 PM
My biggest obstacle is me. My biggest obstacle is my fear of attention. I like invisible. I must resolve this in me. It's not even just a discomfort.... The few times I've been slender in my life, I've made terrible choices which resulted in more pain, only proving (in my twisted brain) the theory that fat is safe. I know better.

Now don't take this the wrong way RT cuz I know you have some serious issues from your past, but to feel this way, aren't you also saying that you've learned nothing from the past? That you feel like you are doomed to repeat the same behaviors over and over and over again? I mean, hopefully you are happy with Richard so for the immediate future you don't have to worry about making relationship mistakes. And if you want to pursue your horse care - don't you have to some day step up and be noticed? If your goal is to start a business of your own, you HAVE to step forward and let people know you are out there and drum up some business or even just convince them of your convictions. You seem to take pleasure when you get back into a strong work out routine - like you said, it's power, it's strength, it's feeling good about yourself. Well if so, then you need to write these negative feelings down, go outside, burn the paper and purge this from your life. Yes, there is some amount of safety in being invisible. But are also willing to live life against the wall, missing out on having a good time dancing because you might step on someone's toes?

I think for all of us (myself included), it's too easy to fall back into old habits, to let old fears paralyze us. Sooner or later you have to just stick your neck out and decide that I'm never going back to the past again. New day, new way.

That's what I'm struggling with at this point and getting tired too of why I can't turn this into a reality instead of just a daily litany. Maybe because deep down, I'm just don't want it bad enough...

happy2bme
05-18-2005, 11:41 PM
Linda,
I've got some lovely roses in my garden -- pinks, reds, yellows and the most perfect peach colored rose I've ever seen. It just forces you to stop and admire it because it only lasts about 2 days. More buds about to open tho, come on by, we'll smell the roses and have a cool (low fat of course) fruit smoothie out back in my peaceful yard and forget about the trials of life for a few hours ... ;)

redballoon
05-19-2005, 04:26 AM
Oh, happy, I'm flying over for the flowers and smoothie in your garden!! Sounds great. :yes:
I liked your advice to Raven. And, I like your saying not to fall back on old ways. This is what I'm trying to do now. I feel a bit of strength, or resolve building inside me....something I think that is going to get me where I've been saying I want to go for so long........

Thanks for the encouragement to us all!

Raven, jolly, derry, a big hello! :sunny:

derrydaughter
05-19-2005, 05:00 AM
Happy, you offered such wise advise on your last two posts. What you said to Raven was so good! I actually smelled some roses (oddly enough in a funeral arrangement that was at my church when I was there for a quilting group) yesterday and went over to them more than once. Odd way of thinking for me, but I kept viewing this totally awesome floral arrangement in my church and thinking it was such a waste of money... yet I loved and appreciated the flowers. Yet, when a person dies they are not seeing these flowers. The funeral was Monday, the people came and went home and the gorgeous flowers sit there all by themselves in a church and then die. This particular arrangement was probably the most eleborate and beautiful arrangement I've seen in my lifetime, yet not being SEEN by anyone. I just happened to see it and then brought a few of my fellow quilters in to see it as well. We all agreed that it was among the most beautiful of floral arrangements we'd all ever seen, the perfection of these flowers was truly stunning. The mourners went home.... so why didn't someone think to donate these to a place where they would be seen and appreciated? By the time we have church on Sunday, they will be dead, or at least in poor condition. The beauty that was there to be seen was just not being seen. Hmm.... maybe one could turn this story into something we can learn from about our weight loss efforts? I loved the daily litany thing you said, Happy. I'm right there. Yesterday, I over ate beyond what I should have had, yet again. I skipped my workout. Was I doing anything to take care of my body, which is a "temple" seeing as I am onto this religious way of thinking this morning with regard to the flowers in the church. Well, not exactly religious, I guess, but contemplating the waste of something beautiful. Are WE wasting something beautiful by not taking care of it? Something to think about. Those flowers are "invisible" and getting on appreciation. Is that what we truly want for ourselves, to be invisible and not be appreciated? Inside of each of us is a truly lovely human being and we are sabotaging.
Linda

redballoon
05-19-2005, 06:33 AM
Linda, you and I were on the same track yesterday with the idea that we are wasting something beautiful by not caring for ourselves better. I was thinking about respect. I was thinking, "Show some respect!" for my body. Is it showing respect to be putting cakes and cookies and candy and junk into it? I say, "No!" Also, I was thinking, the way we look shows how much we respect ourselves, the image we present to the world, and how much we will allow others to look at us and either think, "not very pulled together looking" or the opposite. I had been eating only really healthy things and it felt really good. My body/mind was happy. Then I had some days of sugar and no fresh veggies or fruit and I felt nowhere near as good. Yes, I think our bodies (not our minds) really, really want this good food. Let's show them some respect!

derrydaughter
05-19-2005, 06:59 AM
RESPECT yourselves! Great analogy Red!
I shall try harder today. I really will.
Linda

happy2bme
05-19-2005, 07:24 AM
You are rockin' this morning chickies!!!! :high: :high: :high: That song "Respect Yourself" is going to be in and out of mind all day long. Let's rock! And I soooooo agree with you about the beauty wasted Linda - in all aspects...

derrydaughter
05-19-2005, 07:26 AM
And with all of this in mind, I am off to get on that treadmill!
Go for it girls!
Linda

redballoon
05-19-2005, 08:16 AM
Heh happy, "Respect Yourself" (Staple Sisters) is great but how 'bout "Respect" by Aretha Franklin too. Jive with these words.... :lol:
Download 'em off limewire.com if you don't have 'em...

:dancer: :dancer:


Yeah baby (re, re, re ,re)
Whip it to me (respect, just a little bit)

Oh (sock it to me, sock it to me,
sock it to me, sock it to me)
A little respect (sock it to me, sock it to me,
sock it to me, sock it to me)
Whoa, babe (just a little bit)
A little respect (just a little bit)
I get tired (just a little bit)
Keep on tryin' (just a little bit)
...
I got to have (just a little bit)
A little respect (just a little bit)


R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Find out what it means to me
R-E-S-P-E-C-T

:dancer: :dancer:

derrydaughter
05-19-2005, 08:51 AM
And here, I must add the lyrics to "Respect Yourself" by The Staple Singers, according to Billboard Magazines, one of the top 500 all time hits!

if you disrespect anybody that you run in to
how in the world do you think anybody's s'posed to respect you
if you don't give a heck 'bout the man with the bible in his hand
just get out the way, and let the gentleman do his thing
you the kind of gentleman that want everything your way
take the sheet off your face, boy, it's a brand new day
respect yourself, respect yourself
if you don't respect yourself
ain't nobody gonna give a good cahoot, na na na na
respect yourself, respect yourself
if you're walking 'round think'n that the world owes you something cause
you're here you goin' out the world backwards like you did when you
first come here keep talkin' bout the president, won't stop evolution
put your hand on your mouth when you cough, that'll help the solution
oh, you cuss around women and you don't even know their names and you
dumb enough to think that'll make you a big ol man


With that, I'm going quilting! Peace! All this 60s and 70s music makes me think of my old "hippy" days....
Linda

jollygirl
05-19-2005, 09:09 AM
Good morning all. Wow. Very powerful messages this morning. I feel things stirring inside me again - inspiration trying to float to the top. I do agree that self respect and self love are an important part of this journey. And how we look does tell the world what we think of ourselves and what we will accept from others.

I did not work out this morning. It was pouring rain out, so I did not walk the dogs or do the run I had planned. I also didn't get it together enough to go to the gym. Tomorrow. Tonight I go ride.

Have a great day all.

RavenToy
05-19-2005, 12:15 PM
Happy -

You're exactly right. And those are the things I've been mulling about in my own brain. Am I saying I've learned nothing from the past? I'm saying I'm afraid I might not have. I have certainly repeated behaviors often enough to be afraid I might do it again.

Like you... I just have to want it bad enough to face the fears. I do want to work with horses, that's true. And that's why this time I really have GOT to find a way to work through this. In the last three years, I've gotten to a certain point three times, and then run screaming. It gets old.

I want this to be the last time I have to start over to this degree. I understand down the road from talking to people doing maintenance I'll never be able to just stop thinking about it. But good lord, how many times do I need to go through this?

It's all very easy to say we need to respect ourselves, to stand tall, to take the compliments and smile, to deal with our fears. I've been saying it for years. I'm getting better at actually *DOING* it, but I have a long, long ways to go.

And yes. It scares me. I feel no shame, finally, in admitting that. I don't feel bad about being frightened by the unknown. I just have to remember how I dealt with fear regarding other things, and apply it to this if I can. Take a deep breath and put one foot in front of the other.

So anyway... today I didn't work out. Tomorrow will either be my arms/shoulders split or Week 4 Day 1 of Couch to 5K. Not sure yet which I'll feel more like doing.

I'm hoping to be able to start pilates again this weekend. I kind of cringe when I think of getting down there on the floor and rolling across that part of my butt - I have to try, though, to find out if it's healed enough to handle it.

Food has been good, I need to keep reminding myself to drink more water.

The scale is going up, but that's to be expected with the addition of lifting into my routine. It will drop again, I know that.

And tonight - CSI Season Finale! I'm going to stop off at the store and pick up stuff for big salads and grill some chicken. *yum*

derrydaughter
05-19-2005, 04:19 PM
Raven, you can do this. You truly can. I can do this too. Just like you, the scale has been moving up. I've had it and won't let this happen any longer.... I say NO!
My dad broke his hip this morning, what a day! But, I didn't run screaming to the food, I took a nap. At least I didn't eat.
I did go on my treadmill this morning and plan to portion control dinner!
Doing what I can in beautiful NH,
Linda

RavenToy
05-19-2005, 07:22 PM
Aw Linda! I'm so sorry to hear that! How is he doing? How are you doing?

I know why my scale numbers are going up. When you start lifting weights, it's just about unavoidable. Between the water retention from the muscles swelling when they're injured and the mass they gain when they heal, it's inevitable. It usually takes about three weeks for the scales to tip the other direction again. That's why I hadn't planned on adding weights in for another 2-3 weeks. I wanted to drop more on the scale first. Psychologically, it helps. But I'm ok with it. Better to be building muscle than not doing anything, eh?

Tonight I did the imitation grilled chicken caribbean salad. All your fruits, veggies and protein in one meal. :D Didn't turn out too badly at all, if I may say so myself.

I told my son to remind my of the pain I'm going through now if I ever think of quitting the working out again. God... ow.

jollygirl
05-19-2005, 08:31 PM
Hi all. Well, I didn't make it out to the barn, and I am diving into the comfort food tonight. Why? Because my car got tagged last night with a gang symbol. Wonderful. I feel soooooo safe now. I have lived here 6 years, and never any problems. I keep to myself, mind my own business, and I get this??? It sucks so bad.

Linda, sorry to hear about your dad. I hope things go well. Good job staying away from the food. Raven, I am with you on CSI.

Catch you all later.

derrydaughter
05-20-2005, 06:36 AM
Jolly, What does it mean to have your car tagged with a gang symbol? Gosh, sounds like pure fun.... are you in a city area or suburbs?
Raven, what do you mean by "imitation" grilled chicken carribean salad, what part of it is an imitation?
Just started my day with a strange, but tasty, breakfast, sauteed "hash browns" (used leftover potatoes in non-stick spray with onion powder salt and pepper, a slice of swiss cheese (gotta get in the protein) and sliced tomato as well as a mini corn muffin (only 1 ww point each). It was 5 ww points... more than I usually have for breakfast, but satisfying. But, I am going to do a workout and get on the treadmill in a few minutes and earn myself back 2 ww points. I get 22 a day right now, and with exercise you earn back more points. You only get the points back if you "do the work". So, by having a bigger breakfast, you commit yourself right away to working out!
Linda, trying not to think about her dad today too much

RavenToy
05-20-2005, 06:55 AM
Slightly less pain... Maybe slightly less, but no way in hades I was going to get those legs to run a Week 4 today. So it was shoulders/arms split today.

Fifteen pounds plus bar on presses (behind the neck and shoulder) two sets of 12. Two sets of 12 on bent over rear delt barbell row and upright row same weight.

Seven and a half pounds plus bar, two sets of 12 on tricep extension, dumbell curl, hammer curl, wrist and reverse wrist curls.

Food is good, water STILL needs improvement, and exercise is on track, if rather uninspiring and boring.

Though I have to say that upping the weight just that 5 pounds did make a difference from last week. I was just beginning to reach the Ďuh oh I donít know if I can get this over my head againí on the second set of 12 on the presses. So Iím starting to approach the failure zone. This is a good thing in weights. Pretty sad that itís happening at a measely 15 pounds. *sour face* Once Iíve gotten my body used to this whole tossing metal thing again, Iíll probably go back to pyramids for a while.

Linda - I say imitation in that I'm imitating Chili's salad. It's the first time I've tried it. Your breakfast sounds good! How is your dad doing?

Jolly - :yikes: Ok, that's just too .. scary/city for me. Gangs scare the crap out of me. One of the reasons I pulled my kids out of school. The gang activity here is not cool. Regardless if it's obvious or not, it's there. Had some stuff hit too close to home before we moved out to this area, and thought we were away from it. But I guess anywhere in the Atlanta area isn't free of it. *sigh* Oh, for land of my own... Out in the middle of nowhere. What did you think of CSI?? The part with the ants had me squicking all over the place.

Right. Off to work.

jollygirl
05-20-2005, 09:28 AM
Good morning everyone. "Tag" is when a gang member or wannabe marks their symbol on something. Usually walls, railroad cars, etc. This time, they scratched the mark into the side of my car. If they want to mark their turf, why can't they just pee on the trees?? I live in a large city that is a suburb really of Milwaukee.

Well, I did make it to the gym today. I almost didn't. Was half undressed and heading back to bed for a nap when I looked down and saw my girl dog looking at me all confused like she was saying "What ARE you doing? Haven't I raised you right?" I got redressed and went to the gym.

I loved CSI, RAven. I get the feeling we will see that female prisoner again, don't you? The whole thing gave me the creeps, as I don't like tight spaces. And then the dead dogs??? No way!

Have a good day all.

redballoon
05-20-2005, 08:00 PM
heh, jolly, I'm with Derry, hope this gang crap is just a spoof or prank. Try not to let it get to you. That's a part of it, the intimidation.

Ok, guys, gotta run. Just wanted to bump the thread up.

jollygirl
05-20-2005, 08:13 PM
Glad you bumped things up, Red. Nice to find the thread right away. I am not letting it get to me. Just trying to be smart.

Everyone have a great weekend.

redballoon
05-20-2005, 08:18 PM
That's good, jolly. Just be strong and stay alert, don't be intimidated.

derrydaughter
05-21-2005, 05:59 AM
By feeling as if you have been "owned" (a word my teens use all the time that seems to apply here) by this gang, it's exactly what they want to accomplish. So, just get some touch up paint and move on, I guess. I haven't heard of or seen any talk about gangs of any kind here in NH, but there could be some in a few of our largest cities - but here in NH even our largest of cities is not equal to small cities in other states.
We're still fairly rural and "country" up this way, for which I am glad. Yet, the "urban sprawl" shall find it's way here as well, I guess.
I was on program all day yesterday, I used up all my ww points, but didn't end up eating extra, plus I worked out. So, I am feeling somewhat proud of myself!
We were going to head up to "the lake" today (where my family's summer cabin is) to kind of get things rolling for the beginning of the season, but the weather is supposed to turn nasty. I'm bummed out as I'd like to get away. I truly felt like I needed a form of "escape" this week. But, I suppose we might be able to go see a movie or something later on if it's raining. My daughter saw the new Starwards movie last night and said it was really good.
Linda

RavenToy
05-21-2005, 09:59 AM
In geek speak 'pwned!!' ;)

Well good for me. I did Week 4 Day 1 of Couch-to-5K today!! I ROCK! If I may say so myself. My quads are still sore from my weights WEDNESDAY! :eek: I didn't think I'd be able to do it, and it did kick my ***, no doubt about it. But I did it.

I've realized that Happy, you're right. I need to have some faith in myself. Sometimes we don't understand our fears till after we conquer them. I need to step outside my safety zone to move forward. Again. So I will. I can.

Food yesterday was indulgent. I had wine, wonderful french dip sandwiches with italian spiced beef, provolone and swiss cheese, and the best bakery bread... *yum* Oh, and then a piece of raspberry creme cake. :D :D

Today, back on plan. Water good so far, food ... I need to eat. And exercise was much more inspiring today!! :p

Hope everyone is having a great weekend!!

jollygirl
05-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Hey all. Real quick message before I head to work. They changed my hours to 12-8. Good, because I get home earlier. Tough because I have to move my butt a lot quicker in the morning. I did however get everything done I wanted to. Made it to the gym. Had a WONDERFUL ride. The "interval" training I am trying is working. We are working through our issues without either one getting frustrated. It was a beautiful ride.

Off to work. Have a great day all.

redballoon
05-21-2005, 10:31 PM
Heh all. Bumping up the thread. Not doing very well here at all. Damn, why is it always gung-ho for a few days, then work bogs me down and I can't do anything, then am depressed because of it and the viscious cycle continues....
I am tired of my own voice....
Trying to pull myself up off the floor again.......scrape..scrape....sticking to it bad....oh well, I'm outta here, to the track again. Maybe something there will pump some air into me again.....take care, all!

jollygirl
05-22-2005, 11:44 AM
Hi all. I hear you Red. Oh wait - that is the sound of ME scraping MYSELF off the floor. My eating has been horrid. And, because I sat up late eating last night, I couldn't get up this morning and run. I am going to do my yoga tape when I get home tonight.

I can report a very small NSV. I somehow decided that a gas station sized bag of M&Ms would go really well at work today. I was stopping to get gas anyway, but . . . . I paid at the pump so I wouldn't go into the gas station. Now, if the craving comes up, I have to find time to leave work to go get crap - I don't just have it ready to go. Small save, but a save none the less.

I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. Off to walk the dogs and go to work.

redballoon
05-22-2005, 06:12 PM
Heh, jolly, that was a good save. That's what it's about. And maybe I should start looking at those "small" saves too because I know I do them as well. I feel better today (considering that I was out late, too much big, little sleep and now must go to work, again without exercise and not even much time to walk.....but I am determined to walk a bit.)

I realized just how connected my eating and motivation is to the rest of my life. I guess this is normal. I mean, at this stage I am not really bingeing, but I don't knock the weight off and do healthy things like eat good foods or exercise. But I am not hogwild with the food either. I suppose this is where the vast majority of people are. Their lives have problems, some quite a few, problems that is, and they kind of just go through life trying to deal with those or hoping things will get better, trying, trying, hoping, hoping, and the big moves, the ones that require real initiative, just don't happen. OK, I see it. I am NOT a special case and utterly undisciplined and whatever. I am doing other things outside of eating and exercising and so, naturally, you don't see changes there. But, I AM doing other things....OK, I am going to try to do a little bit more in the eating/exercise category, that's all......... not get all bent out of shape about it.

Hello to you all. Hope you're all doing OK. :wave:

jollygirl
05-23-2005, 06:11 AM
Floating. Just kind of drifting along. Dealing with things as best you can as they come, without being proactive and setting your own course. That's kind of how I feel right now. I am almost 35 years old, and I feel like I still don't know who I want to be when I grow up. What am I waiting for? Rather unsettling actually.

Here's to a hopefully great week all. what can we do to make it so?

RavenToy
05-23-2005, 08:15 AM
Well Jolly - I'm 45 and I just figured out this year what I really want to do with my life. And now I wonder if it's too late and I'm kidding myself. *shrug* All I can do is keep trying, though. :)

Yesterday was kind of tough. A very good friend who lost three horses to a lightning strike last year had to put a foal down. The mare suffered from a placental infection, and the placenta separated from the uterine wall. They induced, and the foal was born a couple weeks premature. But the damage had already been done by the swelling of his brain. They kept him going for 4 days, hoping and praying he would make it, but he started to really go downhill yesterday, and she had to make the very sad decision to put him down. It was particularly heartbreaking, because this foal was the half brother of the yearling she lost to lightning last year. It was just serendipity that she even ended up with the mare, who had already been bred. I guess it just wasn't meant to be, but .. it still broke my heart. I felt so bad for her.

Anyway... so yesterday wasn't the greatest. I kept intending to do my chest/back split, but never quite got around to it. Food wasn't BAD, but it wasn't great. Water sucked. And then I had this weird attack of chocolate cravings last night late and hit the M&Ms. That's really weird for me. I can't even remember the last time that happened.

So today is a new day. I did my pilates! My butt was still kind of achey, but nothing like the stabbing pain of a week ago. It felt really good to stretch out my back.

I have my water and my oatmeal, and I'm off to a good start. :) Hope everyone is doing well this Monday morning!

jollygirl
05-23-2005, 05:26 PM
Hi all. Raven, so sorry to hear about your friend's foal. So sad how these things happen.

My eating is still horrid today. I need that kick in the rear. Bad.

Ah well, tomorrow is another day.

Hope to hear from y'all soon.

RavenToy
05-23-2005, 09:10 PM
Today remained good. Water wasn't great. I need to really try harder with that. Food was fine.

Exercise was the pilates this morning and then trimming Eve's hooves tonight. She did great. Front hooves are starting to look better, just waiting for the new hoof to hit the ground and get rid of that crappy stuff. The rears are coming along slowly... a big flare on the right rear. But again, I can see the new hoof growth line, and it's coming in much tighter.

Oh and don't forget running the length of the arena several times working with Shadow to get her to stand still for the fly spray. She was in rare form tonight, but we ended with her making a nice slow trotting circle around me several times, and coming when I asked. I think I made good progress with her.

So I'm worn out!

RavenToy
05-24-2005, 06:43 AM
Wasted time on another board this morning and killed my time to run. So...

I did my chest/back split instead. Upped it to 15 pounds plus bar for bench and incline presses and deadlifts, 2 sets of 12. Dumbell rows, 7.5 pounds plus bar, 2 sets of 12 on each side. Flies *spit* 2.5 pounds plus bar, 2 sets of 12.

Yesterday, in addition to the pilates, I ran the length and breadth of the arena several times working with Shadow, who was in rare form, until she'd finally 'round pen' around me, and come when asked. Took a while. Lots of running. *pant*

Then I trimmed Eve's hooves. Sweated more than when I run, I think. Forearms and hands get a workout from hoof trimming. Tonight I'll trim Arashi, and perhaps work Shadow more. We shall see.

Food yesterday, very good. Water - oy, abysmal. And considering how much I sweated... *shakes head* Today MUST be better. Exercise - eh.. a little scattered around, but definitely getting done so I can't really complain. I *need* to run tomorrow. No getting online first! NO Marian, BAD Marian. *rolls eyes*

jollygirl
05-24-2005, 08:12 AM
Good morning all. I have a quick NSV to report. Despite being up twice ill, I did run this morning. I am still on week 1, as I missed two days last week, but at least I did it. I need to look for a new, safe, easily counted route. I have been going a bit short to stay where I can count. (the plan I use combines minutes of walking and running. As I can not bear to watch the clock, and dont have a watch I can set to go off per the program, I use blocks. It accomplishes the same thing in the end, and I tolerate it well.)

I am off to ride tonight too. Have a great day all.

jollygirl
05-24-2005, 07:32 PM
Hi all. Just a quick post to bump us up a bit. I was feeling pretty tired, so I didn't ride tonight. Lunged him for awhile. Let him play for a bit. And washed a layer of dirt off him. It wasn't warm enough to do an all out bath, but he is a bit cleaner.

Food is awful. Rest of the day was good.

Have a good evening all.

RavenToy
05-24-2005, 11:04 PM
Hey chicks.

Was supposed to go trim Arashi's hooves tonight, but that got derailed. I have a job interview tomorrow at 10, so figured I'd better get myself ready for it tonight. I colored my hair (got rid of the 'old'), bought some makeup :eek: , and printed out the resume, directions, etc. I need to go figure out what I'm going to wear, and make sure I have pantyhose, etc.

It would be working as an Admin still, but I'd be working for a company that does forensic data retrieval. How cool is that? The recruiter tells me they're looking for someone who can start out in admin, and then move into doing more technical work. Sounds right up my ally. Now to convince them I'm the best person for the job, eh? It actually pays enough so I wouldn't have to sell things to pay board and feed for my horses.

Food was ok, exercise was the weights, water was actually good today.

Tomorrow I *must* run.

Are you ok, Jolly? Sick? I saw in your post you were ill... I hope you're feeling better!

jollygirl
05-25-2005, 01:55 PM
Hey all. Where is everyone? Enjoying the hint of summer???

Good luck with the interview, Raven. I hope it goes well.

RavenToy
05-25-2005, 09:14 PM
Well, the interview .. went. I have no clue what direction it will take. I guess I'll know in the next couple days if they want to see me again.

Anyway... I did my Week 4 Day 2 of Couch to 5K today. I was NOT in a good headspace for running. I just felt heavy, sluggish, tired.. I couldn't breathe right. It was really difficult to keep going. Just about when I thought I was going to just bag it and do shorter intervals, my vision focused in on the box I'd been staring at. It's one of those packing boxes that never got unpacked when we moved, you know? In big, black, bold letters, it said "You can..."

And I realized.. I can. All my life, people have been telling me "You can't because... it's too expensive, or I'm not smart enough or pretty enough or skinny enough or ..." Fill in the blank. You know what? I CAN! I can lose weight. I can get in shape. I can trim hooves. I can train horses. I can.

It was a pretty interesting little revelation.

Tomorrow is lower body weights. I think I'll maintain at the pounds I used last week, considering that nearly crippled me for 3 days. I mean... sore is one thing, that was ridiculous. :D

Food is good, water is GOOD for a change, and exercise is chugging along. :strong:

I'm with Jolly, where is everyone??

redballoon
05-26-2005, 01:06 AM
Raven, jolly, I'm here, just not up to posting much. Sorry. Raven, great going on the running. Hope you get a bite from the interview but if not...well, don't sweat it.

jolly, you are amazing getting your exercise it. Keep it up.

I will try to write soon. I'm trying to get off the floor. Started a new 21-day challenge thread. They always worked for me. Keep it simple, always simple, count to 21. I can do that! Join me if you can.
Later, guys. :wave:

derrydaughter
05-26-2005, 07:09 AM
Hi guys! Sorry I've been out of touch, seems like the days are flying by and I just am not getting time to do everything. I weighed in at WW on Tuesday morning 1.8 pounds lighter! Finally, since Feb. a loss!
It's done nothing but rain here.
Had to have my car towed the day before yesterday, all the electronics died on it.... computer "glitch", what a disaster that proved to my schedule, but I have it back now.
Linda

redballoon
05-26-2005, 07:15 AM
Good for you Linda! :cp: Glad to hear you're back on track. Best of luck. :sunny:

jollygirl
05-26-2005, 08:52 AM
Hi all. Raven, congrats on your epiphany. Linda, congrats on the loss. Red, good luck with your new challenge.

My eating is still horrid. Bad, bad, bad, bad ,bad. But . . .Despite working until 10p, and needing to be to work this morning before 7am, I got up and did day one of week 2 of the runnign program. Felt pretty darn good too. Now, if only the weights take.

Have a great day all.

redballoon
05-26-2005, 06:03 PM
Something to remind yourself of when life's got you on the ropes:


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."

Mark Twain

jollygirl
05-26-2005, 09:43 PM
Yeah, but right now I feel like the size of the dog in the fight is a Saint Bernard, and the size of the fight in the dog is a Chihuahua. Hmmm. "Yo quero Taco Bell" anyone???

redballoon
05-26-2005, 10:37 PM
Well, jolly, you'll just have to starting FEELING like a St. Bernard, got it?!!? :lol:

RavenToy
05-27-2005, 06:27 AM
I hate PMS. Just thought I'd let you know this thing. :mad: I'm crampy, moody, and pissed off at the world. And I want to cry.

Drugs? I need drugs. :( *sigh* I'll be ok, just wanted to whine.

redballoon
05-27-2005, 07:25 AM
Ok, Rave, hear you on the whine. Perhaps your local high school could help with the drugs........oops, did I say that...I guess you meant aspirin or something....hang in there, kid!!

jollygirl
05-27-2005, 09:15 AM
Well, actually I would rather feel like a Boxer or Doberman.

Sorry you are feeliing low, Raven. I missed the gym this morning, but have my bag packed after I go ride tonight. And tomorrow I have a weight lifting orientation at the gym.
Have a good day all.

RavenToy
05-27-2005, 08:37 PM
Hey chicks.

I'm a pit bull. Heh.

I'm ok Jolly... just money and PMS and money and .. yeah.

How did the orientation go!? I must know!

Red - I'm hangin'! :D Are you?

Tomorrow will prove to be an interesting day indeed. My first paying client for hoof trimming. It's a woman I met on my training board. She wants a good wild horse trim, and she's willing to work with me and let me learn by working on her horses. I also told her I'd be thrilled to start showing her the ground work, etc. I told her all I really wanted was enough money to cover my gas, and then if she thinks I am doing a good job with them in a couple months, a testimonial for my website. That's all I want right now. I have, potentially, four clients right now, but none of them are closer than 100 miles away!! :eek: Oh well .. hope business picks up fast. I need a new car. :D

redballoon
05-28-2005, 07:28 AM
All right, quick post here.

Jolly -- good, that's the attitude I like to see, doberman or boxer...(docked or au naturel?) Did you get a ride in? I hope so. Weight lifting orientation, huh? Sounds good! Haven't you been doing weights though? What do you usually do at the gym?

Raven -- glad to hear you're hanging cool. A pit bull, eh? Yes! Cool beast. Oh, God, do I ever hear you on the money woes. I sure hope your work with the horses picks up. That sounds good with you getting your first paying client. You gotta start somwhere I guess to pick up customers. I'd be careful about doing that with too many people in your area though. You want to leave the close ones for the big money. Maybe you could do the freebies on the ones far away. Well, good luck!


Well, I'm just too busy here. Derby's tomorrow, but all the work is for the big race next week. I came home to find a check from Hong Kong when they promised to wire me money. It wasn't much but I can use anything. So, I've just launched off a few emails asking them to get to the bottom of it. Checks here are a real pain. Takes a month to get your money and that's after you find a bank. Damn, I was checking my account for this dough, that's how pathetically strapped I am...

But, a great save. I turned down going out with the guys from working drinking tonight. They were like, come on! come on! and I said no, I had work to do. Good for me. That would always mean mega calories. The money would have been minimal cause there was some unbelievable special on tonight at this bar but still....

Besides, I can drink for free after the race tomorrow if I really want to. Today I did good with exercise, got a ride in, and then went to work, two hours late but still...

Ok, that's all for now.

Others, you okay? Chachee, happy, derry, anyone I miss? Come out, come out....

jollygirl
05-28-2005, 07:37 AM
Hi all. Huge congrats to you Raven, on your first paying customer. way to go. And to you too, Red on the save.

I did get a ride in last night. Not a great one, as I brought my bad mood in with me, and it rubbed off on the pony. I was finally able to realize what I was doing, and we were both able to get over it though.

No, Red, I have not been doing weights. I hate weights, even though I love the results. So, I have not been doing them. I just do cardio at the gym right now. So I am getting oriented on a different type of weights - free motion - in hopes that this will motivate me to do them again. I hope. I need to do something right. though duct taping my mouth shut would be a great start.

Have a wonderful weekend all!

redballoon
05-28-2005, 06:17 PM
Ok, jolly, I see. But what are free motion weights? Never heard of this. You don't just mean free weights, do you? In any case, I hope they are something that you will enjoy and that will get you doing them! Good luck!

jollygirl
05-29-2005, 08:03 PM
No, not free weights. Just the brand name of a different type of weight machine. More pulleys. Uses more core muscles to stabilize then seats and machine parts. We shall see how it goes.

Did well last night at the wedding reception. They had a dessert buffet. I had some pineapple. Two chocolate dipped strawberries. And one piece of cheesecake. Came home, and was able to refrain from eating any junk food.

Today, didn't do any exercise except riding, and walking around the horse show.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

happy2bme
05-30-2005, 01:46 AM
Hey chickies,
First holiday weekend of the summer. Yay! Life has been busy lately - too busy. I have not been in the dieting frame of mind although I really should. And I really haven't had anything much to say. That kind of mood where you type something and then it sounds stupid so you erase it a few times and by then it's late and you're tired so you just sit in the background quietly. That's how it's been for me.

Anyway, enjoy your 3 day weekend and Red, I hope they get you the money they owe you. I'm going to see if I can find my motivation lurking the bottom of one of my still packed up boxes in the garage... :mag:

redballoon
05-30-2005, 06:26 AM
Hi people. Just wanted to say hi so I don't get too far behind. It's been raining all day, but it's OK as I had/have a lot of work to do. Rainy season getting close now. Soon, the wisteria will be blooming, then the irises. Tokyo is one flower after the other from the early plum blossoms, then the cherries, then the azaleas. It really can be a very colorful city.

jolly, ok, I understand about the weights now. Great going on the wedding party and then not eating when you came home, no junk that is. So you were at a horse show? Cool, I must have missed that. Are there a lot of shows around you? Is everyone riding Western?

happy -- Very good to see you back! :wave: I know how you feel about the non-dieting mood and the not wanting to type. But, you should just type anyhow. I know the tone around here is pretty serious most of the time, but I would be glad to hear anything from you... banal, silly, a bit of comic relief, anything! :yes: And, oh, yes, thanks, the money messup got sorted out. They always pay by check but I hate that, it's such a hassle so I try my best to insist on a wire transfer. So, I'm to have it soon... Hurrah. Well, hope you find that motivation. Now where could you have put it...........??? :shrug:

happy2bme
05-30-2005, 10:32 AM
Ooooh Red, after being here this spring I can now imagine just how lovely your city will be. Oohing and ahhing for you. And a few ah-choos thrown in as I suppose you have the cascades of pollen that all those lovely flowers bring too. It sounds gorgeous tho.

Today will be spent clearing out the upstairs master bedroom which has become holding area number 2 for all the stuff we didn't know what to do with yet. But the mattress for the guest bedroom (that we're in now) is coming next week so we have to make room to relocate the bedrooms again. My family is coming the end of June for a week long visit. I can't wait. Lots to do to get ready though.

I did break down and buy some new clothes for work yesterday. Including a pair of pants that I just love but needs about 10 pounds off me before they will zip right. The fact that I love them but they didn't have a larger size was an omen that I should work hard on the diet this month. 10 pounds by the family visit? Can I do that? Sure I can :yes: Ok, get cracking girl.

To those having a holiday today - celebrate and enjoy the day off. To poor Red across the seas, don't work too hard - I'll save a bit of fruit salad and some BBQ chicken for you :cheers: :)

jollygirl
05-30-2005, 06:27 PM
Hi all. Day two without a workout other than dog walking and show walking. My allergies are acting up horribly. I feel miserable.

Yes, Red, there are a lot of shows around here. The ones I go to have a little bit of everything. One of the girls from my barn does sidesaddle on top of everything else. I got to walk a lead line rider around today. REason number 1 to have a child. He was so cute.

Have a great day all.

derrydaughter
05-30-2005, 07:45 PM
Hi guys, sorry I pulled a dissapearing act for a few days. How is everyone?
I have been away, and took some time with the kids exploring Boston for fun. Haven't been awfully well behaved food-wise, but not all that bad either, kind of in between, I guess.
My dad is still not well, they have started Hospice with him, which kind of tells us all what is going on...
Linda

happy2bme
05-30-2005, 11:57 PM
Linda, sorry to hear about your dad. :grouphug: Is there any way to find out what's going on or are you stuck with whatever your mom choses to (or not) tell you? Sounds like it was good though to get away with the kids for a bit. You really do need to have a stress relief valve as you do no good laying next to your dad in a hospital room of your own.

Hope everyone had a nice holiday weekend. Why do the weekends go by so quickly even when we get an extra day :dunno: Things must be blooming in the great midwest, eh Jolly? I picked up a box of Claritan myself today -going to try that for the first time, I'm usually an Actifed person as Benedryl does nothing for me.

derrydaughter
05-31-2005, 04:55 AM
Hi Happy and everyone. Thanks for your group hug. I think I know enough that I don't even know if I want to have any conversations. Allergies around here are running wild as well. All the rain we had contributed to a huge boom of every flower, tree and plant all coming into bloom at once, it's lovely but an allergy nightmare.
Getting away with the kids was a good thing. We went to the Hard Rock Cafe' as well as to the top of the Prudential Building yesterday and walked all around Boston. It was fun, so many "interesting" people.
One of the things that amazes me the most about Boston is the number of coffee places that have sprung up just about everywhere. You can see that caffeine (which I love as well) is the "drug of choice" for America! Dunkin Doughnuts, Krispy Creme and Starbucks are everywhere. We went in a Starbucks and it was amazing how many people were in there with laptops on line as well. My DH tells me that Starbucks has wireless networking all set up so people can access the internet with their laptops in there, amazing.
We walked all around Newbury Street (the posh shopping area like the Rodeo Drive of Boston, sort of) and up by Berklee College of Music (where my son wants to go) as well as drove (once it starting pouring rain and we headed for the car) all around by Boston's Fanuiel Hall Marketplace and the Waterfront. We headed over by the Statehouse and Cambridge on our way out of "town". It was a nice day and a distraction.
Linda, the country gal who rarely gets into the city

jollygirl
05-31-2005, 09:18 AM
Glad to hear you got a chance to relax, Derry, and hope for the best with your parents.

I feel like I take 1 step forward, then 3 steps back. My allergy problems resulted in some pretty bad chest congestion. I was up most of the night, and am dealing with a low grade fever today = no work out this morning. Plus, unless I feel a whole lot better this afternoon, I won't be able to go ride, and with working the part time job Wed and Thurs, I won't be able to get to the barn until Friday. Sucks.

Enough of that. I hope everyone has a good day.

RavenToy
05-31-2005, 12:03 PM
Going to try to catch up. I ended up doing two horses on Saturday, one for my friend from the board, and one for a friend of hers. Both were overdue for trims, and took a while. The first was not only overdue, but unusually hinky about holding up her feet. ANYway... long story short, it was a pretty physically intensive day. I have the bruises to prove it. ;)

Then Sunday I get a semi-panic e-mail from a friend in Florida.. her farrier is in England, and her 5 horses need a trim because their hooves are all chipping badly. Sooooo, sucker that I am, I run around like a chicken with my head cut off, get things done around the house, and make a 5 hour drive to her house. Get there late, trim two horses, fall asleep. Wake up, trim three horses, and make the 5 hour drive back on Monday. No money to speak of, but possible repeat and new business. She's thinking of transitioning me into her primary farrier, and there's a breeder down the road with 14 broodmares who never wear shoes who might consider using me as her farrier. That would be awesome!

ANYway... I did so well on food and water, and I think my exercise kind of got taken care of, considering everything. I did pilates Sunday morning down there just to stretch myself out. I didn't work out this morning, but maybe tonight I'll do pilates again, my back is tight. Not sore, just tight. Then perhaps tomorrow will be running.

It's beginning to look like I'll be at that 10 pounds down by the end of the week that I was aiming for as my goal. I started my period yesterday, so that's throwing things off.

Jolly - I'm so sorry you aren't feeling well. Drink lots! Hopefully you can beat it quickly and get back on track. :)

Red - These are actually (other than the second one on Saturday) chicks I've met on another board who train using the same methods I use. We've known each other now for a couple years, gone through a lot on the boards, and they're giving me a chance to train on their horses. I appreciate that a lot. The flowers there sound absolutely beautiful. I have wisteria in my front yard, and I LOVE it.

Happy - I was in that headspace for a long, long time, so I can really understand it. *hug* Ten pounds by the end of June? That's my goal, too. So what are you going to do to achieve your goal, chica? :D

Derry - Sounds like you had a nice time, and Boston sounds like a cool place. As long as you can avoid the donuts... :D I'm sorry about your dad. It's hard, I know. Mine has been in an extended care home for a couple years now, and .. it's sad.

Well, it's only taken me like 4 hours to try to get this written, so .. back to work for me! Happy Tuesday!

jollygirl
05-31-2005, 08:11 PM
OK. I don't think I can manage 10 pounds by the end of June - I'll go with 8. Two pounds for each week. Now, off to bed, recovery, exercise, and good food. Congrats on the potential business, Raven.

redballoon
05-31-2005, 08:26 PM
Heh, is someone going to start the June thread........oh, it's just me that is into June already....Ok....I'll be patient.....

Raven -- I can't believe you didn't ask for money to help your friend out?!?!?! Driving all the way there, doing all that work. I mean, she'd normally have to pay. Why did you do that? Need practice or not, the work still got done as far as she is concerned, didn't it? Maybe there's something I'm not aware off.....it just really struck me as bizarre!!

Jolly -- I'm with you, just get back on track. I do the same, fly for a couple days, crawl for the next week.

Derry -- glad you were able to have a nice time in Boston. Never been there. Prayers are with you and your father and family.

happy -- glad to see you posting. How's the weight business these days?

RavenToy
05-31-2005, 10:35 PM
Red - Wouldn't you? To help out a friend in need? But since you seem to wonder... Beverly has had a rough time. Last year, three of her horses were killed by a single lightning strike. It was devastating to her. She was able to get ahold of the breeder who had sold her one of the horses, a yearling QH, and she offered Beverly the opportunity to buy her dam at a very low price, and she would already be bred. Beverly reluctantly agreed to the breeding. Well, the dam (Boots) suffered an infected placenta, and the foal was born with neurological damage after a very traumatic induced labor. The mare had to be taken in to the hospital with the foal in the hopes of saving either one of them. Well, they saved the mare, but the foal started going downhill about three days after birth. She had to make the decision to put him down. This whole mess cost her a LOT. Not just in money, but emotionally. Chaos was the name of the foal, and he was Miri's half brother... and Miri is one of the ones she lost to lightning.

Now .. regardless of whether it makes sense or not, I love Beverly. She's been there for me so often. If I could help make her life a little easier by driving down to visit while she teaches me some really cool training stuff and I get experience working on her horses.. that's good enough for me. ****, I'd do it for you if you weren't in Japan. Sometimes you gotta give to get, yaknow? It looks like she may very well pick me up as her regular trimmer (for full price) and not only that, but there might already be 6 more horses owned by a friend of hers that need trimming - for full price. I think of it as an investment in my future, and my friendship. And honestly, my friendships are worth their weight in gold. I don't have many people I consider a friend.

redballoon
05-31-2005, 10:56 PM
Hi Raven, oh, God, I do it too much, giving....

I actually didn't find your wanting to help her out so strange, not strange at all. What I found strange was not reading that she offered you anything. I mean, you said, her regular farrier was out of town. Ok, fine. If he were in town, she'd have gone to him, and paid him, no? So I would think she would want to pay you, would at least offer. I mean, damn, five hours driving!? She called you? I don't know, maybe she was really panicking and was just bowled over by what you did for her and is too embarrassed to offer you money. But, she knows how strapped you are I assume.

I don't know. I am more concerned for you, Rave, and hope you're not being used because you're so nice. You say she's been there for you a lot though so all's probably dandy. I'm a bit jaded with the "give to get" stuff anymore because I've been screwed over by the people who did the getting part so much. Hard to give in a world that values material things so much, a world that seems to have such a hard time expressing anything in anything but material terms....talking about here...that is.

In any case, it's next to impossible for us here on the board to know a situation, truly know it. From the sounds of it, with her likely to take you on as a regular and the other work form her friend, it sounds like this is one time where things really do work out with that rare logic.....that precious and even rarer........good things happen to good people kind of karma. It is my hope that good things really do and continue come your way, Raven!! :yes:

RavenToy
06-01-2005, 08:19 AM
Red - She paid for my gas, that's all I asked her to pay. She fed me, let me stay overnight at her place, and let me use her shower. :D She's a wonderful, giving, caring person. I wasn't being used in the slightest. Been there, done that. I have my cynical moments too. As a matter of fact, I have one of those 'iffy' situations coming up this weekend. Another friend has asked me to drive down to Macon to trim her horse - she usually does him herself, but hasn't had the time lately. Soooooo.... I offered her the same first time deal. Pay my gas, feed me, we'll have a good time thing. But with her, I'm a little more cautious about what might happen going forward. But I'm still basically the kind of person who will let people hang themselves. Give them a chance, see what happens. :)

redballoon
06-01-2005, 08:30 AM
I like that Raven, "let them hang themselves!" :lol: Yeah, that's what I do too. 'Cept I'm usually feeling pretty ill watching them swing..... ;)

Well, I'm glad this friend paid for your gas......that changes the picture considerably. I thought it was all on you. Guess with a business you've got to really learn to really, really roll with the punches. Safety in numbers and all that. Take the bad with the good. Well, hope you get a lot more good...OK, I've off to bed.

Early up tomorrow, racetrack, then stable, then hotel maybe for drinks with people in from Hong Kong..if I can still move. Three HK horses here for the race on Sunday, two biggies. The winner of the HK Champions Mile will get a million dollar bonus if he wins on Sunday. Some incentive, eh?! The other one, his rival, Silent Witness, was stopped at 17 straight wins. Out for revenge, perhaps. I'm starting to feel like gambling away my . . . what. . . can't be my money, don't have any of that.... maybe my clothes.......no, none of them either.....oh, well.......good night, all!

redballoon
06-01-2005, 03:35 PM
Heh, Raven, you gonna start up the new thread for June? If so, can you please give us a shout here. I tend to forget and then get lost. Thanks! I'd start it myself but figured you'd enjoy the honors! :)

redballoon
06-02-2005, 04:49 AM
Here's the link to the new thread. Lucky I saw it!!!!
Derry, I know you always get lost too. Click here and jump on over!! See you there! :wave:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58900