Weight Loss Surgery - Memorial Day-Public announcement

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03-03-2005, 12:41 PM

Suzanne 3FC
03-03-2005, 03:21 PM
Congratulations on breaking your plateau and making a fresh start :) Good luck!!

03-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Hey Pooks,

What a great job you're doing. You're inspiring me to try harder too. I have been working on increasing protein and water too. I still refuse to go on a diet, but that is not the same thing as eating whatever, whenever I want. Are you still being Gazelle Girl? I am convinced that exercise is key to this process.

I went to the doctor yesterday for another fill and was pleased to be told that I'm a model patient. Who knew - it may be the only time in my life I can be a model! I said something about my slow loss and was told that it is exactly where they want me at this point.

So, in the spirit of your post, here's my Memorial Day challenge - and this may sound really strange to some. My challenge is to continue to work on being comfortable eating in front of people. I think it's a by-product of being obese for so long, but I'm always uncomfortable eating in front of people. I used to be (and sometimes still am) a secret eater. I am working on admitting my hunger and not caring if someone thinks I'd be thin if I just pushed away from the table. Sounds kind of goofy, but this is a big hurdle for me. No more secret eating for this chick!

Keep up the good work, my not-so-fluffy little friend!

(who should never be allowed to learn new computer tricks and make such obnoxiously colored posts!) :D

03-03-2005, 07:30 PM
Hey Jif (Oh My God, a Moderator question!),

How come my number of posts is so goofy all of the sudden? I was at a bunch and now I'm at 555, not that it really matters - just a' wondering.

The Chick

Jennifer 3FC
03-03-2005, 10:50 PM
Pookie! Good for you for making a challenge for yourself. If anybody can do this, YOU can! You are such a vibrant and dedicated person, and if you focus this on your weight loss, you WILL succeed! You know what is good for you and what isn't, so keep your pretty head square on your shoulders and let's burn some calories! Yeahhhhhhh!! :D

03-04-2005, 10:41 AM
Hey pookie,

Can we join you in your Memorial Day challenge? I've found over time that I need to re-commit to better habits on a somewhat routine basis. I do very well for awhile then tend to get a bit sloppy around the edges. Time to tighten up ship a bit around here.

My goals are quite similar to yours: Increase lean protein, increase water, increase veggies, increase exercise. Decrease sweets and "extras".

I am finding with the stress of adding school to my schedule, I will sit down with my books (after a tremendous amount of procrastination) and want to bring a snack. If I have to do this, I need a food treat as a reward. Isn't that stinkin thinkin if you ever heard it? I was startled to realize I had fallen into such dangerous territory. Won't be having any of that! So I think, for me, spending the next few months learning to juggle stress and schedule overload without turning to food is going to be key.

I'm in for the challenge!


03-04-2005, 02:46 PM
I really appreciate all the support and help you give to me and to everyone who posts here on 3FC. I know you are VERY busy and I appreciate you taking the time to help me and others!

Thanks, Pookie

Because you are so sweet and we love you :grouphug:

03-08-2005, 10:42 AM

I can so relate to the head hunger thing. It isn't a huge problem for me, but it certainly does exist and is an issue at times. Yesterday, along with timing my meals and snacks, I made sure to drink a ton of non-caloric liquids between each meal and snack. I still have trouble getting in enough liquids unless I consciously push them. Having that glass of tea or whatever can really push back that hungry feeling and allow me to go a bit longer before the next fuel infusion.

The thing that is helping me the most is taking meals and snacks with me to work. It seems like an awful lot of work at the time, but the benefits are huge for me.

So how is everyone else doing?



03-08-2005, 05:07 PM
Hi Pookie, I am wondering that too, I like you have not dumped yet and being able to eat sugar kind of worries me!

03-08-2005, 09:40 PM
oh my, you two. there is no easy answer to that question!!! i can't eat yogurt in the morning, but i can in the afternoon. many factors affect dumping, i think, and one of them is basically how long it's been since you last ate. eating somethiing sweet after a meal makes it easier to tolerate.

but i gotta tell BOTH of you that I KNOW when you had your surgery - and neither of you is far enough out to be experimenting this way :soap:

as for the WATER - pookarella - we all know that plain water is best, but decaf coffee counts towards your liquid intake. really!!! i wouldn't lie to you!!!

and the salad dressing thing... i think that pre-made lite ones are gross. here's what i do: i get an oil and vinegar based one, something like caesar, and pour off most of the oil. much less fat. much more flavor.

and sometimes i chop up some cucumber, tomato, and maybe some red peppers, and mix in a tablespoon or two of hummus. yummy!!!!! i just go through these phases where ALL salad dressings taste disgusting, and i think i'm in one now.

so i'm eating more roasted veggies than salads these days, or some plain raw veggies...

but this is just me.

now, what got me off on this tangent???? i don't remember any more!!!!!

03-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Am I weird? I've never had issues eating in front of anyone. I've also had such high levels of testosterone from PCOS that no one dared mess with me, hehehe. Thank you, my 11 years in the US Navy! lol I'm really glad to hear you're moving forward Pookie. There are few things more discouraging than a long-term plateau. You are in my prayers.


03-08-2005, 11:16 PM
Congrats, Pookie pie, on breaking that plateau! You're doing great! I'm so proud of my little 5th monkey! Keep up the great work!

03-09-2005, 10:24 AM
Good morning everyone,

Pookie, you made a good point about making small changes, one at a time. Whenever I have gone back to visit the nutritionist at my postop appointments, she reminds me of this. I tend to have this all-or-nothing thinking which doesn't work a bit! Even when things seem badly out of control (that's about me, by the way, not you or anyone else), it really IS do-able to make one change at a time. Even if I go through the same list of changes each time, I've done it enough times now as a postop to know that 1) I CAN do it and 2) making one change at a time really will work in the end. Success in one small area makes the next one easier.

Yesterday, I packed healthy stuff to take to work, ate at scheduled intervals, and went to the gym. Of course, I took my vitamins (always do that one). I spoke w/my trainer about my huge weight gain, and he reminded me that the weather here has been going from cold to hot, and some of it could be water, and sure enough I am already down several pounds. That's a good thing. However, I have gained some pounds, and am over my "line in the sand" weight, and it was a seriously needed wake up call. When I got home last night, I grabbed a little spiral 3x5 notebook and wrote down what I had eaten during the day. Not something I had even thought of doing, but one good change (taking healthy foods to work) sort of lead to another. Easily, without thought or effort or pain. I like that.

About the water, I get very little of my liquids from plain water. I am just, in the last six months, to the point that I can drink it at all. It's not ideal, but it is what it is. I don't do caffeine, and try simply to get in enough fluids. It is a challenge for me, to this day, although not nearly as hard as it once was. Give me a busy weekend, however, and it's tough. My boyfriend knows to leave me alone in the morning, that I "have to drink". That's why I am on the computer before work. I drink my sugar free cafe mocha then. I don't do anything else until two huge mugs of it are down.

I swear, one change at a time, one small change, really can give huge results.

How is everyone else doing with their challenge?


03-09-2005, 06:46 PM
darlin - it's not that we have so many more rules than everyone else - it's more like the stakes are so much higher for us if we don't follow them.

no one - surgery or not - should take calcium and iron together. but if we skip them altogether, we get into serious trouble. fast.

everyone - surgery or not - should be drinking at least 64 oz of non-caffeine fluids a day. i don't know of too many people who drink sugary drinks. the difference is that THEY can drink with their meals and we can't. but we all need to drink up.

EVERYONE needs to exercise and build up some muscle. look at the divine Meg for inspiration!!!!

soooo - WE'RE NOW NORMAL!!! does that help at all?? sometimes thinking this has helped me get through some uncomfortable times. it's important for me to realize that i'm now just like everyone else. and it's no picnic. [ouch - what an awful pun that was!!! a thousand apologies!!!]

03-15-2005, 10:37 AM
Okay all, just wanted to check in. It is hard for me to even check in. I am still struggling to get things back on track. Between reading here, in the LWL and maintainers forums, I know I am not the only one struggling, but somehow my head is telling me that mine is "worse". Crazy stuff.

Yesterday, I packed my daily supplies, ate well, went straight from work to school (no exercise), but did well all day. On my way to school, where we had a potluck for the last night of class, I gave myself the potlock-pep-talk. Then I proceeded to make not-so-great choices. Grrrrrrrrrrr!

Fast forward to today. I was thinking about it, and realized that I did great all day. I got in dairy and protein and veggies. Eating a few junky items didn't take away the good choices I had made earlier. IT WAS AN ABBERATION, NOT A CONTINUATION. That was a lightbulb thought for me. If I had eaten badly all day, it would have been more of the same, but it wasn't.

I'm still working to get back on track. I am not giving up. I'm just realizing it is more of an issue right now than it has been before. It is harder this time than it ever has been since I had surgery. That's okay though. I'm in this for the long haul.

So how is everyone else doing?


03-15-2005, 02:15 PM
Hello Ladies, Wow have I been looking for you guys! I have been searching the web for some online support. I am new to this site and would love to join in the challenge if I still am able to. I had my RNY on 12/17/13 and have lost 147 so far. i still have another 60 or so to go. Things have slowed down sooo much for me and i need to stay focused with everything. I have to, have to, increase my protein, and other healthy stuff. How much protein are any of you guys highting right now?
I also need to work on increaasing the exercise to, I need to tone up, alot of areas on me. Well thats all for now, but looking forward to posting again later. Take care, Carrie

03-16-2005, 11:46 AM
I'm not sure how it varies between the RNY and the DS, but I have noticed that even the different DS surgeons have differing recommendations as far as postop eating.

At this point (It'll be 4 years next month) my instructions are to eat a "balanced" diet, but to get a protein source at each meal. At my last visit, I had restarted some protein shakes, and the nutritionist advised against it (the liquid calorie thing, I think) and said it was unnecessary. Since I had type 2 diabetes with renal issues prior to my WLS, I thought it was probably not a bad idea, and I stopped the shakes. They don't actually focus on a number of grams, but rather want us to eventually get out of the diet mindset. With the DS, about a year after surgery your capacity to eat increases, so you really can get a more varied diet. The first year or so, it was almost all protein, simply to be able to get enough in.

Because I eat mini-meals rather than three large meals (first, I can't eat a "large" meal, and second, my blood sugar and hunger simply won't allow it), I try to get protein at each meal or snack. I am also adding in the occasional protein shake, simply because I like them, they are a good way for me to get in fruit and dairy which I may not get otherwise, and are a good way to make sure my protein intake is high enough. Not daily, but a few times per week.

I still "think protein". It is natural for me now. I tend to look for whatever I can find with the most protein/least carbs when I am out and about.


03-16-2005, 05:36 PM
Cool, I'm navy blue, haha! Thanks Pookie. I was an athlete of sorts, so imagine my consternation when I started gaing weight so rapidly, for no apparent reason. Well, my efforst for getting more time in the gym have been thwarted for a bit. I just found out today that the horrible pain and weekness in my right shoulder is tendonitis. The tendon that's now too big is pinching the nerve that runs from my neck to my hand, so I can't push, pull, reach up or out. Getting dressed and driving are very difficult. I have to start physical therapy on the 31st.

03-18-2005, 03:26 AM
I haven't seen hide nor hair of MysTek lately. But I will see her on the 29th. I'll let her know you miss her!!
I got my first set of lab results since surgery. And surprisingly, my B12, iron, BUN and createnine (sp?) were all high-normal. My RBC and WBC were both wonky, but my doc thinks it was because of a UTI I have. Apparently, I've had it for about 3 weeks. It worried me because I never felt any burning or pain until the morning I woke up Sunday morning and I couldn't pee. About 2 or 3 days after I started antibiotics, the reall pain set in, lol. My left flank hurt really bad and I was having horrible cramping and spasming in my bladder. Did you know when you have a severe bladder infection, it can feel like really bad menstrual cramps? In any case, I finally started to feel better this afternoon. I have been sleeping ALOT, though. I have been sleeping the sleep of the physically exhausted for about 12 or 13 hours for a few days. I've been loading up on water, yoghurt and cottage cheese for probiotic replacement. I also finally found a predigested protein supplement that I really like. It's called Instone and I got it at GNC. It comes in chocolate and spicy vanilla. The vanilla is really yummy. Apparently, it's a product that Sylvester Stallone and his wife are pushing. Anyway, it has 45 grams of 100% bioavailable protein per 16 oz. So, I split the packs in half and chug some 4 times a day. It's pretty low in calories, and not particularly sweet. Yay for me. LOL I wish I could do more than walk around. I went to the grocery store yesterday. I shopped for over an hour, filled the cart, spent $80, and had to take a 3 hour nap when I got home. I know being like this isn't helping me lose weight. Oh well. I have a front yard and a backyard that need work, lol.


03-19-2005, 12:46 AM
hi girls, Thank you for your help in the reply's. I think I finally may have broke a plateau i was on. I have been really trying to increase my steps for my walking and I think that may have done it. This morning I was down 2lbs so that was a great feeling!! Those scales haven't budged in a while, and I just got sooooo sooo upset with it. Thinking that I may not be doing something correct, or that was it for me. I also am trying to be more aware of what I am eating again, and was able to increase the protein much more. I think i wasn't eating enough to eat over all. I have been trying to drink my water and it fills me up, so I don't end up eating much for food. Plus, I still do not do well with chicken, or some beef. I do well with eggs still, just feel so nervous about eating them every day, cholesteral problems with alot of family members. So i have that in the back of my mind.
Once again thank you for your help, I will be able to start to post more once I get my new exercise routine down, Looking forward to getting to know all of you more. Take care, Carrie