100 lb. Club - Hollywood's Featherweights
02-16-2005, 03:39 PM
Typical tinsel town :censored:
Several things about this "buy this week's magazine" ad really bother me....
Mary-Kate Olsen: I'd like to see the medical journal stating that 90lbs. is a "healthy size" for a 5'1" female! :no:
Kelly Ripa: How on earth can she claim to be "deceptively HEAVY" at 108lb? :bomb:
Jane Fonda: I feel for her; 35 years of bulimia must have been gruesome and I understand her statement about mistaking physical hunger for spiritual hunger, but it might have been nice if all those tapes of hers put aside a few minutes to deal with such issues instead of focusing on making us feel like lazy jerks if we didn't adhere to her rigid exercise routines - talk about wasting a perfect opportunity to really help people who may be going through the same thing! Instead, she used her celebrity value to distribute tapes no different from the hundreds already available on the market. :rollpin:
Not that I plan on buying the magazine, but I bet Lara Flynn Boyle's also in there flaunting her skeletal self :rolleyes:
Some may say its sour grapes or jealousy on my part (actually, its not, I find the skin and bones "look" most unattractive and unhealthy looking) it just bothers me no end how Hollywood tries to dictate what is desirable (by the way, I thought Renee looked lovely as the "fat" Bridget Jones - after she lost the weight she looked like a Q-tip) and how so many young girls (in fact, women of all ages) strive for that very same look. Its sad.
02-16-2005, 04:06 PM
Opinion from a man:
"Toothpicks" i only like them to hold club sandwiches together. :D
You gave maybe the best example i can see of a total turn-off. I've seen pictures of L-F Boyle in Bikini and she is totally unattractive to me :yikes: ...first because she looks and probably is sick and second, i would be affraid to break her back while hugging her!!! I'm a big bear remember??
02-16-2005, 04:52 PM
I know that T.V. and the camera are supposed to add ten pounds. And if that's true I'm very frightened. They look sick. I'm by no means jealous, I don't see how they could be healthy. It's just sad to see what society is pushing so many woman to believe is healthy.
02-16-2005, 04:57 PM
Ok, minority here. I like the very thin look and long for it.
No, not the skin and bones look, but very thin.
I think I'd feel the same way if I were thin myself.
02-16-2005, 05:55 PM
I think the wafey look is overrated. Ask most men and they would prefer some curves.. not a washboard. I think those girls look so "sunken" in the face and as if they are on drugs. I like healthy bmi thin. I bet any of those hollywood-ers are under the normal BMI for their weight class. I support the fact that obesity is a huge problem but if we don't watch it, the eating disorders on the other end of the specturm could soon be what were facing. What about the normal people???
02-16-2005, 05:56 PM
I just think it's ONLY in Hollywood that you see such things. People like Ashley Olsen, LFB, and Kelly would feel ridiculously out of place in a lot of places and frankly, I'm tired of women and girls thinking that they are the norm.
02-16-2005, 06:38 PM
I remember watching the movie "Chicago" and thinking Catherine Zeta Jones looked fabulous in her skimpy outfit dancing her heart out, while Renee looked like a starving child dancing beside her. Yet, I read all sorts of snarky comments about Zeta Jones' weight. Same thing with Kate Winslett in Titanic - I thought she looked lovely, but she said she was forced by the industry to lose weight in order to get parts. Its crazy - neither of them were by any means overweight! I know I'd love to have the figure of either of them. :^:
I'm not doing the "rah rah" for the fat girl here - I, too, think a lean look is more attractive and know absolutely that its healthier both physically and emotionally for the person, I'm just saying that in my book there's a vast difference between fit and lean and the social model being shown in the entertainment industry. :mad:
02-16-2005, 06:46 PM
02-16-2005, 09:31 PM
I remember watching the movie "Chicago" and thinking Catherine Zeta Jones looked fabulous in her skimpy outfit dancing her heart out, while Renee looked like a starving child dancing beside her. Yet, I read all sorts of snarky comments about Zeta Jones' weight. Same thing with Kate Winslett in Titanic - I thought she looked lovely, but she said she was forced by the industry to lose weight in order to get parts. Its crazy - neither of them were by any means overweight! I know I'd love to have the figure of either of them. :^: MY OWN MOTHER made a comment about how "fat" CZJ looked after we saw the movie. I commented to her that she must think I'm a small whale then. Talk about insensitive. :dz:
I think Lara Flynn Boyle is gross, I would never want to be that thin. I would still like a little chunk in my trunk. *shakes booty* I think DB would break up with me if I lost too much weight. :(
02-16-2005, 11:36 PM
Curves all the way. I could not imagine being with one of those girls. Looks painfull to even hug them.
Well if you remember a few years back Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox were getting the same flak because they were too skinny and now that they are a bit heavier they don't get the same comments plus they look a million times better. I despise that waif look, it cannot be healthy.
02-17-2005, 08:15 AM
I remember when Men in Black 2 came out and there was stuff everywhere about how great Lara Flynn Boyle looked--I thought she was creepy! I would very much prefer the look of Angelina Jolie, Michelle Rodriguez, and the few others who show muscles rather than protruding bones.
02-17-2005, 11:22 AM
Jillegal, I loved your post in winterblues thread, I was feeling down yesterday myself and it perked me up. :)
Yeah, Hollywood is bizarre about body image, an industry focused on looks and body image. At least now you'll see heavier younger women on tv, like Less Than Perfect, and the Gilmore Girls has several larger actresses. Speaking of Chicago (a movie I didn't see), at the Oscars I thought Queen Latifah looked gorgeous and sang beautifully, I thought she outshined CZJ and just got pushed out of the limelight.
Does anyone remember Kirsten from Party of Five (Charlie's girlfriend)? She got sooo skinny towards the end of the show, I suppose in an effort to get her career going. I hated seeing that, because I knew she must be suffering.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, my SIL is naturally very thin, people on the street make comments to her and she gets upset about it.
I've never wanted to be rail thin, I like curves, to see them and to have them. I don't seriously believe I'd ever be rail thin either :lol: There was a time when I was younger that I liked guys who were really thin. Now a lot more goes into what I like in a guy, ha.
02-17-2005, 11:44 AM
What is sad is that most of them think they are fat. I got an e-mail about a month ago of some extremely skinny women--we're talking bones protruding. I could only open that they were computer enhanced because those pics made LFB look overweight.
02-17-2005, 11:51 AM
Glad I helped perk you up a bit, Marge. :D
I've never seen "Less than Perfect" and don't know the concept of the show, but I have seen the very slightly overweight young female star (cute redhead, right?) I can only hope the show's title has nothing to do with her weight!!
02-17-2005, 12:07 PM
It's funny because I've never seen more than 15 minutes of Less Than Perfect, but I've seen the actress doing interviews. It's true I wouldn't peg her as "overweight" if I saw her on the street. I do get the feeling that she's supposed to be an "average" woman, with weight problems, job struggles, etc.
Roseanne and Oprah are another two big tv presences who are larger sized women, both of them went through public weight losses too (Roseanne less than Oprah). Can you imagine John Goodman (the husband from the Roseanne show) being publically pressured (and made fun of) to lose weight? Funny how the wives of the men of tv characters who are large still have to be thin too (King of Queens, According to Jim).
Ok, now I'm wondering if I watch waaaayyy too much tv :lol:
Dawnyal, I see these reports about how woman have such a hard time looking in a mirror and seeing their true body size (almost always they see themselves as larger than they are). Very sad.
02-18-2005, 02:53 AM
Less Than Perfect - one of my favorite shows and they NEVER talk about dieting or weight. ROCK the frack on!
In film and photography, we discuss the "dead woman" look. It is so incredibly popular in advertising today. Open up a magazine and flip through it - look at the ads. How many of those ads show women who look dead? Spaced out staring off, looking bored. Listless. Or worse, look at the coloring. Are they the colors skewed to show their skin and lips in a blue color. This is the dead woman look. Here's the freaking part. This is a turn on. Some think it's because they are showing the ultimate submissive woman - uber rape fantasy (ewwww!). Others think it is because the mindess, thoughtless woman is more sexual because there is no fight left in her - she won't talk, she won't fight back, she won't rag you about the dishes. Some people think that analyzing ads like this is "reading to much into things." But they don't spend millions on advertising not to know exactly what they're doing.
02-18-2005, 06:19 AM
Sad but true...that sounds like the psychology behind it that I have learned about as well. We also discussed the fact that there is an increasingly popular type of pornography (mostly popular in the middle east, but spreading) where all of the women look like concentration camp victims--skin draped on nearly protruding bones, eyes sunken in...you get the idea. There is a name for this type of disgusting porn, but I don't remember what it is. It is quite disturbing, and yet the demand is growing. Wonderful, the things we learn about in college nowadays, eh? :eek:
02-18-2005, 11:39 AM
Disgusting porn is a good name for it. I can't believe what people find sexualy exciting.
02-18-2005, 07:20 PM
Less Than Perfect - one of my favorite shows and they NEVER talk about dieting or weight. ROCK the frack on!.
I do admit I think she's really pretty. Maybe part of that is because I always wanted to have red hair.
In film and photography, we discuss the "dead woman" look. It is so incredibly popular in advertising today.
wasn't it in the late 80s and 90s that "heroin chic" was the big thing in modeling? emaciated girls that looked all used up by drugs. nice thought, that.
02-19-2005, 07:52 AM
Yuck to the gross porn! Jillybean, I'm surprised that it originated in the Middle East--are you sure about that? My husband is Middle Eastern and definitely has a preference for, um, more amply endowed women (lucky for me!).
And I LOVE Less than Perfect! Both of the main actresses are gorgeous!
02-21-2005, 09:12 AM
when i was really young (like 13-15 or so) i wanted to be thin more than anything in the entire world so i quit eating and i got thin. i still thought i was fat. when i see pics of what i looked like back then i can understand why people thought i was on drugs. i looked NASTY!!!! i read some of the articles about those actresses and wanted to puke! they are nuts but i can understand their thinking because i thought the same things.