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01-24-2005, 08:33 PM

What we really want in a weight loss support group, boils down to one concept; we are looking for a sanctuary.

Sanctuary means different things to different people. Sanctuary is a place of peace, rest, safety, and rejuvenation. It keeps our spirit and our sanity intact.

Many of us who have a long journey down the weight loss path find ourselves in need of a break. Sometimes our bodies crave it, and sometimes the choice isn't ours, but circumstances forces it upon us. Other times, we need the clamoring throng to cheer us along our way as we breeze past milestones and overcome obstacles.

Sanctuary can be all that as well. It is what you need and when you need it. Sanctuary can be found in good friends who aren’t afraid of your truths and in an open, honest atmosphere.

Sanctuary isn’t judgmental, neither does it discriminate or ask to be censured. It is open to anyone with a desire to share, and especially those in need of and willing to offer support

01-24-2005, 08:52 PM
My plan...I hope it works....
I"m doing WW, so I'm going to keep my eating between 24-29 pts. a day. I also am going to do at least 30 min. of exercise. I bought some carrots, celery and cucumbers for munching and have no junk in my house to eat. I"M SOOO READY!


01-24-2005, 08:57 PM
BarbG: I added your bio to the list.Just that I'm such awonderful, neat person and everyone should love me, but you all already knew that!!! You are right I did know that about you!!!

LisaFL: I added the FL because we have a Lisa in Minnesota too. You don't have to do anything but start typing!!!

Here is our bio form if you would like to fill it in. You don't have too but it helps all of us to get to know one another a little better.



















Are you following any particular diet plan? We are also doing a 2 X 2 Challenge from Jan 24 to Feb 7th if you want to jump in. Again you don't have to just if you want. All of us are trying to lose 2 pounds in two weeks and at the end of the two weeks we post our loss and I am the adder upper to see how much we lose as a group.

Otherwise we just chat away about our lives - the dieting and non-dieting parts.

Skittles: Oh and it looks like there is no Superbowl this year. :lol3: That's the way I see it too.

Lucky, I was thinking we could start a website where we could keep all of these things such as bios and pictures and other goodes, and putting the link in our messages. What do you think? That is fine by me but don't we have to pay for a site like that?


~Have you weighed in? Yep
~What kind of plan will you follow? Yep - for this week anyway
~Exercise? Yep
~Have you made it easier on yourself by getting the junk out of the house? Gotten the good stuff in?Bad out - no good in - well just the leftover good from last week
~Is your head in the right place? 2# is a realistic goal, easily attainable in 2 weeks!
Surprisingly yes!!!! SHOCKED aren't you.

Jawsmom: a few jumping jacks while I wait for the coffee to finish in the morning I had to laugh. My sister told me she started getting up 30 min early every day so she could exercise - actually, she said she is standing in front of the coffee pot waiting for the coffee to get done so she may as well stay in bed!! :lol: She is a real coffee freak in the morning - NO talking to her until she has had some. Now that I think of it she hates exercise so why she thought her plan would work is beyond me!! :coffee:

Okay, Chicks - we can do this - lose two pounds by February 7th. Even if they are pounds you have lost before ;)

So far so good for today!!!'s/BettyBoopcomingoutofheart.gif

southern gal
01-24-2005, 10:17 PM
Hi everybody! Hope you had a very good day! I'm working on school stuff (does that ever stop?) but decided to take a break for a few minutes and check in. Not enough time to write a good post though...

Lucky, you come up with some of the coolest graphics!

Jawsmom, jumping jacks and jogging in place...hey, nothing wrong with that! What a great way to get in some exercise when you normally wouldn't.

Welcome, LisaFL!

I've done fine food wise and I did exercise this morning. Not my normal walk though (too cold). I'm still working on getting in enough water...Hope everyone else has done well today!

Oh well, back to work. I have a conference on Thursday so I'm working on lesson plans for my sub. It takes me about 10 times longer to write down what I need my class to do for someone else to teach...Talk to you later!


5 dogs
01-24-2005, 11:50 PM
Hello, my name is Gloria and am looking for a fun support group. I read some of your post and said "This is the group for me". I am 53 and have been married 32 years (First time, only time) to a wonderful man but, he has never had to diet in his life! :corn: I have lost the same 10 pounds at least 10 times and am getting discouraged at myself.

I am kinda new at this and am not sure if this is the right way to go about joining your thread.
Thank you
P.S., My user name is 5 dogs and yes, i have five dogs.

01-25-2005, 12:04 AM
WELCOME, Lisa and Gloria! Just jump right in! I still haven't exercised yet today, but I'm going to put my TaeBo tape in RIGHT NOW and do it. It wouldn't do for me to NOT be compliant on the very first day of the challenge! Food and water have been great. Feeling good. Thanks for starting the new thread, Lucky!

c bo be
01-25-2005, 08:29 AM
Hello everyone, my name is cheryll and I've been searching all the threads for over a week trying to figure out where I belong. I'm new to this forum but certainly not new to weight problems. I'm 49 years old and have been married 30 years to a wonderful husband with weight problems too. I need to lose around 35 lbs. I am pretty good with exercising but i tend to snack at night. Not good. Anyway, I hope there's room for one more in this thread. My user name is c bo be. Thanks!

01-25-2005, 08:57 AM
Good Morning Ladies:coffee: ooops and Tony :D (Sorry bout that)

I hope everyone had a wonderful Monday. I got some things done, went to the chiropractor, I love the roller bed, so nice on my back. I am going back this Friday for a session on using a big ball. She is going to fit me with the right size ball and show me how to do some exercises for my back and stomach. I think I will feel better about exercising with a ball having someone show me the proper way to use it.

Lucky, I was thinking we could start a website where we could keep all of these things such as bios and pictures and other goodes, and putting the link in our messages. What do you think? That is fine by me but don't we have to pay for a site like that?

Nah, there are free sites out there. I wrote to someone here but have not gotten a response from anyone yet.

~Have you weighed in? ummm yes, 319#:goodscale
~What kind of plan will you follow? I will follow the "You know you can't have that, put that down, and drink that water," plan.:nono:
~Exercise? If I have too.:lol: :tread:
~Have you made it easier on yourself by getting the junk out of the house? Gotten the good stuff in? There are still a few bad things but I just have to leave them alone. I do have more good things though. :mcd:
~Is your head in the right place? 2# is a realistic goal, easily attainable in 2 weeks! Is it ever? I think so, this is starting a week earlier than I planned my new year to start but I am willing to go with it.

:high: :wave: Welcome New Chicks, Gloria, LisaFl, and Cheryl:wave: :high:

Ok, Off to work Buhbye for now.

01-25-2005, 09:00 AM
Always room for more here! Welcome, cheryll! Just jump right in and join the fun. We've just started a 2 week challenge to lose 2 lbs, you've come at just the right time!

Hey! I wanted to tell you all that I've been experiencing this strange sensation lately...I get this rumbling, growling, empty feeling in my gut. I've heard that this is what HUNGER feels like. Really? I wouldn't know about that! Til recently. :lol:

I'm trying to do the 6 light meals a day thing. Which means I can eat every 3-4 hours or so. Sure enough, right around the 3.5 hour mark, there goes that rumble telling me it's time! Now, I'm not chowing down 6 times a day...just small meals or a snack. Training myself to be aware of the hunger and when it's no longer there. Also taking note of how much 'grazing' I normally do. Eating that extra piece of bread while I'm making a sandwich...grabbing a cookie while waiting for the coffee...stuffing an extra piece of cheese into my mouth...a bite or two or three of dinner as it cooks. Amazing how those extras do add up!


Just a few thoughts...

What about you? Tell us what you are doing differently this time. What are you going to do to be successful this time?

Time to get the kid off to school...and me off to the gym. That's one of the things I'll be doing!

01-25-2005, 09:02 AM
Hi, Skittles! We were posting at the same time. You always bring a smile to my face...

I will follow the "You know you can't have that, put that down, and drink that water," plan.


01-25-2005, 10:12 AM
Hey gang :)

Eep, I am _so_ far behind in reading posts. But this is a good thing, isn't it? It means the thread is alive and prospering :) Unfortunately, between the mounting work in school and the oncoming exams (like staring at a freight train coming at you), and the other demands on my time, I haven't had a whole lot of time to come here, much less post.

BarbPA: Green smiley faces, huh? :) That's a trick I need to remember. That's pretty cute :)

Sneaking in this reply real fast during class, so I don't have time to fully read the other posts. If you asked me something and I missed it, I really don't mean to ignore you :) I'll try and catch up during a break.

Welcome to all the new women, I think you'll like it here!

As a side note, as of this morning, I broke my 210 plateau! *cheer* *fanfare*

01-25-2005, 10:16 AM
Hey everyone :)

I really haven't fallen off the face of the earth! There have been a lot of pressures lately, and I've found myself holing up and not coming out and asking for support like I should. When those times hit, I should be here first!

I got off on a decent foot yesterday for the first day of our challenge with my food. I kept meaning to get out and do some exercise, but that holing up mentality kept taking over. I didn't leave the house again after getting in from work in the morning. I planned to use my big ball, but the cats have punctured the thing. It is brand new! (Now would be a good moment for a primal scream emoticon!) At least my abs are still tender from doing crunches on it the day before. :)

What do I plan to do today to ensure my success? I have physical therapy, so exercise is taken care of. I have started the day with some lean protein and have been planning my foods to take with me so I'm not tempted to wander from the path. My water bottle is already filled, and as soon as I finish posting here, I'll get my PDA in the purse so I'm able to journal everything. I've got to admit that I don't feel all empowered at this moment. The thing is, if I do all the right things, there is no reason to not find success, even if I don't feel successful this exact moment. Did that make any sense?


My eldest is begging for a ride to school, and I can't think of a reason to not take her. Time to get off here and into the shower! Have a great day, everyone! Mind is looking better already. :)


01-25-2005, 10:18 AM
Kat, you make a very good point regarding mindful eating and conscious behavior.

I had a really dramatic revelation at the beginning of this particular weight loss journey that I think will be the key to my success this time around. In the past, I've never really listened to my body - I equated not being full all of the time to hunger. I don't know what made the light bulb go off but it occured to me that just because I wasn't stuffed didn't mean I was hungry and I thought to myself, "this is what NORMAL feels like." Now, I can tell the difference between being hungry and just wanting to eat and I don't feel deprived just because I'm not putting something in my mouth for the sake of chewing. In my case I believe that the reason I always regained lost weight was because once I reached my goal I still didn't have a real grasp on when to eat and why. This time I do and I think it is going to make all the difference in the world. As a matter of fact, it already has. I haven't had to struggle week by week like I used to and it is because if I'm not HUNGRY I'm not looking to eat.

Now, of course, the challenge is to eat the RIGHT things when I am hungry. That one I'm still working on. LOL.

Hope you all have a great day. And a great big welcome to all of our newcomers. You've picked the right place for support and fun. I look forward to getting to know each of you better!

5 dogs
01-25-2005, 10:36 AM
Hi Cheryll, I to am new and have been looking for a good support group. When i read your post, i thought you were talking about me. I have a BIG problem with snacking at night. I'm o.k. during the day with the junk food, but hooooo the night. I nibble all the time and its not because I'm hungry. I have to tell myself when i start nibbling, "You know what it taste like so DON"T take another bite".

Here is my bio.

I like to exercise and have joined the Y.M.C.A where i take belly dancing and step classes and do water aerobic.

We have two kids. A son 29 (Will) who is married and lives in Mo. No grandkids yet. Daughter (Jamie) is 26 and lives in Az. She just came back from Iraq this past May.

I love to quilt and have a very large stach of fabric that i will probably never use.

I was in a car accident in 2003 and am unable to work because of neck problems. Had an operation last year on my neck and am able to exercise from the wast down.

I started South Beach just before my accident but was in so much pain all i could do was eat and sleep. Gained a lot of weight then and am having a hard time getting it off.

Did i see someone is from Ga? Hubby and i are going up there on vacation next week. Love the state of Ga.;)

Hubby (Carl) and i have been married 32 years and he still makes me laugh. :lol: He's a great guy as a husband, but i need someone to push me to exercise and STOP the nibbling at night.

So this is me and would love to hear from you.

01-25-2005, 11:40 AM
WooHoo! I am so excited I am about to burst. I handle all of our finances and given my accounting background I am one of those, "balance to the penny" types. I keep everything in Quicken and was balancing our statement. I don't know how I've missed this in the past but I happen to have noticed that we had a lot of uncleared items that went as far back as 2002 but ended early 2004. I'd seen them before but didn't pay much attention since I was able to balance our statement to $0. So, long story short I take a closer look and somehow I managed to enter some things twice. Turns out we've had an extra $2200 dollars in our checking account for the past year! I know that isn't a huge amount of money but it is "free" money to us at this point. I figure that is a nice little budget for all new clothes once I reach my goal weight. And, lucky for me, Greg is generous enough to have said he thought that would be a good idea. I had to laugh when I told him that I was glad to have made a mistake that actually did us some good and he said, "Yeah, wish I could make a mistake that didn't get me in trouble!" Poor guy.

Gloria, I am glad to hear that you are recovering from your accident. I had knee surgery back in college and was on the couch for about 6 weeks straight. I was like a bowl of jelly by the time I began physical therapy and it was very discouraging. Luckily, at that age it was pretty easy to bounce back. When I was 6 months pregnant with twins I was put on bedrest. The same thing happened. Of course, this time it's been a much bigger struggle to get in shape. Pretty sad that they are 4 years old and still my excuse for being fat! Not for much longer though - I am going to really get myself together this time.

How wonderful that your daughter made it home from Iraq. It must have been very difficult for you while she was gone.

I see in your profile that you enjoy growing vegetables. I don't have a green thumb by any means but I also enjoy planting small vegetable gardens. Usually we just put out tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, etc. A couple of years ago I decided to actually put a little more into it as I thought it would be a fun project for the kids. We added watermelon and sweet corn, zuchini and squash and worked so hard. Then, within a month of everything being ripe and ready to pick - we sold our house and moved before we could enjoy any of it. We let the kids go ahead and pick the watermelons and a couple of the tomatoes. We didn't have time to do much this past spring but we are making our plans for another small garden this year. I can't wait. There is nothing like a home grown tomato.

Have a great day everyone.


01-25-2005, 12:16 PM
Pretty sad that they are 4 years old and still my excuse for being fat!Oh, I don't know about baby is almost 14 and I'm still using that one too! :lol:

Nice to 'meet' you, Gloria, thanks for the bio. I have one of those hubbies who still makes me laugh too! That ability has saved him from my wrath quite a few times! Re: Belly dancing. My daughter and her friends at school were just RAVING to me about what a great workout it is. She promises to bring the dvd for me to try next time she comes home.

I don't have to get scarves and finger cymbals, do I?

Tricia...Nice windfall! I love when that happens! Well....I would love it if it happened to me! :crossed:

Tony...Don't worry...we know you're out there....Just keep studying. Come out and play when you can. Way to go, breaking the plateau!! I'm a poet...

Andria...I'm glad to see you out and about. I have a tendency to burrow myself away at times too. I can go days without leaving the house if I don't have to. I'm fine once I get out there, even feel great being around people...but it takes some doing. (like going to the gym!) I always thought I was just a 'homebody.' Now I see it as a symptom of the depression that I rcould easily let take over. Coming here is a great place to find support, friendship, comfort...even a few laughs! Don't stay away...okay? there's that poet again!

BarbPa...Did you hear some silliness out there about there not being a Super Bowl??? Methinks there's some sour grapes going around.... GO EAGLES!

I'm not snubbing anyone else...just ran out of time. Lots to do today. BUT I did get to the gym this morning for an aerobics class. Feels good to have that out of the way!

Have a terrific Tuesday, all!

01-25-2005, 06:45 PM
Pulling this back up to the top! Come on girls...don't let our thread sink to the second page!!

01-25-2005, 06:54 PM
I'm ignoring the melt-down that is going on. I'm so tired of the fighting and screaming....and now the little one bit Kayla. YIkes. I want a vacation.

Okay...melt-down over for the minute. If ever anyone needed a would be me.

I'm trying to behave today. I have been striding on my Gazelle and eating GOOD FOR ME food.

Gloria-Hi..I'm Chris. A 33 yr. old over-stressed mother of 3 girls. I am so happy your daughter made it home from Iraq. As for your gardening skills...please send some veggies my way.... :D I can kill anything green with roots. I DO NOT have a green thumb.

Okay melt-down again. Some little 2 yr. old is going to take a nap. Be back later.


01-25-2005, 08:35 PM
Hello Chicks & Rooster! :)
Popping in for a quickie. Life is a little crazy and stressful right now. I had my first scan yesterday and I am once again responding slowly/poorly to the IVF meds. I just keep hoping and praying it was a little too early to tell. I go back on Thursday for another ultrasound and blood work. Yesterday was pretty rough for me, but today I am just reminding myself that I have to stay positive and let my body do the work. It is out of my control.

You liked the smiley faces, you should see my butt now. :lol: Yes, it's still big! The marker my nurse put on started wearing off so I gave Jeff free reign with a sharpie. Now I have a sun, arrows and "hi barb" on my butt! It'll wash off eventually. :p

OH, how about those EAGLES! Super Bowl Baby!!! WOOHOO!!!!

Not much else to report here. Sorry for a lack of personals right now. I am trying not to spend too much time on the internet and more time keeping my mind off everything.

Welcome to the new members of the group!!

Talk to ya later!
:) Barb

01-25-2005, 09:48 PM
Life is always movement, always change, always-unforeseen circumstances.

We can stop waiting for life to become perfect and start working with what
we’ve got to make it as satisfying as we can.

I read this today and it is SO me when it comes to exercise. I want
everything to go as planned - if not – I crumble. I exercise when I get
home from work, but of course sometimes I can’t go straight home –
groceries, run errands, etc. THAT leads too – well, it’s too late
now to follow my plan for today.

I do try to plan running errands as a rule, but I let myself get thrown by
the “Life is always movement, always change, always-unforeseen

I will have to work on this stumbling block I put in front of myself –

Of course as I write this I have a conflict already for Wednesday

5 dogs, aka Gloria and c bo be aka Cheryll

Kat: What am I going to do differently this time – CONSISTENTLY exercise and STICK with it. So don’t let me slack off!!!! :drill:

Tony!!!! For breaking your plateau!!!!! I know your busy but I miss
you!!! :yes:

Andria: Oh I know where you are – and have been trying to claw my way out !!!!

Tricia: Home grown tomatoes – they make life worth living!!!

BarbPa: You know you are in my thoughts and prayers. Thanks for keeping us updated. Hmmmm will you be posting pics of your hubby's art work?

I feel tired - must have worked to hard !! :lol:

I have to go and read Oprah's weight loss plan in her latest magazine. Inspire me, Inspire me!!!! PLEASE!'s/heartseyesblinking.gif

southern gal
01-25-2005, 11:51 PM
Ok, another late night for me! Just checking my mail and this website and it is already 10:30. I promised myself that I would try to get more sleep ( I read somewhere that sleep deprivation leads to weight gain - like the sleep deprivation is the only thing that has put this much weight on my oversized body!!!) but getting to bed early is a major problem for me. One, I'm a night owl anyway, and two, I'm always working on school stuff after I get the rest of my crew to bed. Oh well, one more thing for me to work on...along with drinking more water, getting more exercise, eating healthier. I always did love a challenge...!

Welcome Gloria and Cheryl. Glad you could join us. This is a great group - very supportive and lots of fun. I know you will enjoy being with us!

Skittles - I love your idea of a plan! I'm always saying "no, you can't have that" so I can really relate!

kat - Awareness, mindful eating, conscious behavior. Boy are those some great key words. I'm posting them on my refrigerator in the kitchen. Words to live by...

Tony - Good luck on the exams. I know what it is like being snowed under by school work!

Andria - The cats punctured your ball?!!! My boys demolished mine - doing something stupid with it like trying to skateboard over it...

Jawsmom - I'm so used to eating just because I want to eat that it is hard for me to figure out if I'm really hungry or not. I'm programmed to eat just because it is lunchtime or just because it is there...You've got a good idea. I need to work on that...Hey, what a great stroke of luck finding the $2200! I'm going to balance my checkbook right now....

Gloria - I'm the one from GA - this Southen Gal was born and raised here! We love visiting other places but this is definitely home.

Chrily - Hang in there! Little kids can get to you but then they turn around and do something sweet to make up for it. Of course, my 6 years olds at school know they have pushed me too far when I open the window, lean out, and scream at the top of my lungs...

BarbPA - Lots of well wishes coming your way. Think positive!

Lucky - Let me know when you learn to deal with the stumbling blocks...and give me lessons please!!!

Almost 11:00. I really do need to get some sleep...Talk to you later. Have a great day tomorrow!


01-26-2005, 02:53 AM
Hey everyone :)

Had to drop in and get a WI number posted for the 2 lb. challenge. I was up again today. :( So, my starting weight is 286. I honestly don't have a clue why I was up, except when I let pressures get to me, my weight climbs inexplicably. I am keeping my journal, and my food was really good. I'm just accepting the WI and moving on. I worked extra hard to make sure my diet was on target today, drank all my water, and I exercised. :)

It is really late and the day has been long, but I do have to say that it is really fun reading and getting to know so many new people. Glad to have you here!


01-26-2005, 09:26 AM
Just wanted everyone to know I'm still here. Some serious things have been going on in my life, and I'm not in a chatty mood here lately, but I am reading everything everyday. For those of you who pray, keep me in your prayers.
And remember, I'm reading everyday.

01-26-2005, 10:26 AM
BarbG, you need prayers, they are on their way. Love and light and everything you need to get through. *HUGS*


01-26-2005, 10:31 AM
Lucky, I have the exact same problem and that quote may as well have been written about me. I completely understand how it applies to exercising but these days I am so terrified of NOT losing this weight that I feel like I am letting food control ME. For instance, I will have to take the kids out to dinner tonight. I know where we are going and I know all that they have on their menu. They've got plenty of acceptable choices and I am not worried at all about ordering the right thing. But I have gotten so compulsive about keeping track of my calories that it is really bugging me that I won't be able to enter an EXACT amount into Fitday. I have actually been considering just ordering a drink and eating once we get home. I know how silly it is and know that 100 calories, or even 200, up or down isn't going to make or break my over all goal. And, like it or not, I know I've got to learn to eat outside of this box I've created. I really envy people who go through life and don't have to THINK this much about food. It can be sooo frustrating!

BarbPA, you are doing everything right so just keep it up. I did not go through what you are but Greg and I hit some MAJOR stumbling blocks as we tried to make our family. I know it can be a real trial to want something so badly especially when it appears to come so easily for everyone else (even if you know that isn't the case - you are never in a boat alone). Good luck to you and your husband and I will keep you in my thoughts.

Chrily, aren't those meltdowns the worst? I am not one of those mothers that thinks my children are angels and can do no wrong but they are usually very well behaved. But, boy, when they lose it they LOSE IT! And so do I. I've pulled out an old trick that my mom used on us - I start making goofy faces and tell them that if they don't settle down I'll go crazy and little men in white coats will come and carry me away. I make sure that they feel about 98% certain that I am just kidding but leave the other 2% to their imagination. It is just enough to make them calm down "just in case." Sort of like a superstition - I don't really believe that walking under a ladder is bad luck but I walk AROUND them nonetheless! LOL. Oh, and another trick I use is to just start copying them. If they scream, I sream, they stomp their feet, I stomp my feet. They usually get so tickled at seeing how silly that kind of behavior is (especially by a grown up) they give it up for the moment. It at least calms them down long enough for us to talk about anything serious they may have done (biting, hitting, etc.). And, quite frankly, screaming with them gets my frustration out too and I don't have to yell at them to do it. Of course, the neighbors probably think we are all nuts.

Andria, aren't those little gains the pits? Especially when you've gotten as far as you have. But they are normal so you are doing the right thing by moving on and not using it as an excuse to give up all together. It has happened to all of us. I've gotten to the point where I know my weekly weight loss is going to start tapering off. I've gotten really used to losing 3 to 4 pounds a week and then BAM, 1.5 a week, then WHAMMY 1 pound a week. It is so frustrating because I'm still making the exact same sacrifices and not getting the same reward. I am working now to make by self believe that 1 -1.5 pounds are a big deal in the big scheme of things. Sort of like driving a crappy car - sure it might not be as nice as a Jaguar but it still gets you where you are going. And that is all I want - to get to where I am going (135 YIPPEE).

Barb - hope things get back on track for you soon. I will keep you in my thoughts.

Alright, I hope everyone has a great day!


5 dogs
01-26-2005, 11:48 AM
Wow, there are so many of you. I hope i don't leave any of you out of this post. If i do, let me say now that i didn't mean to.

Lol. Yes Kat, you have to wear scarves and a belly ring. Just kidding. The first time i took a belly dancing class i wasen't sure what to expect, but after one class, i was hooked. That night after class i couldn't what to show hubby my moves. :censored: Lets just say he was impressed. If you want to get rid of the belly and big hips, try belly dancing. Mine still stick out some, but slowley they are getting firmer.

Do you know where Blairsville Ga. is Laura? Hubby and i have a vacation home there that we bought last year Oct. and are going up there next week. We haven't been up there since, so the house has no furniture or even beds. Imagine this. We are taking hubbys truck so we will be able to take a lot of the stuff we have down here in Fl. up there to Ga., along with our five dogs, and two people in the cab. Does the show 'Beverly Hillbillies' come to mind?

I have a question for all of you. I know i need to drink water everyday, but i was wondering if seltzer water counts? What i like to do is get a big glass of seltzer water, with a cap full of extract, (Vanilla, Cherry, Pinapple.......) and a packet of Splenda mixed togather. It tast like soda, but no preservatives.
Also, i would love to do the two pound thing with you, but because of our trip next week, it might be a little hard. Will you be doing it again later? If you are, i would love to start then.

Hello Tricia and Chris. Because we have sugar fine sand down here, vegetables don't do so well. I get big pots and buy potting soil for any vegetable i want to grow. I have them sitting in front of my house and they look like decorative yard plants in pots. I also grow herbs and use them in my cooking. Have you ever had fresh rosemary on fish. It is so good i sometimes eat it for breakfast. Because I hate breakfast and had to make myself eat something in the morning, I started eating a small piece of fish with rosemary and lemon, and have found it keeps me going longer than eggs would.

Barb, i will keep you in my prayers. I know life can be almost to hard to take some time and you just want to SCREAM!:fr: Been there, done that. You are not alone.

I must get off this computer now. I have a step class tonight but it looks like rain so......... I need you all to tell me to stop making excuses and get to that step class.


01-26-2005, 01:00 PM
I've been busy this morning so far. I got my kids to school and came home. I committed to doing my exercise this morning and it was great. I did a 40 min. dvd workout and then rode on my Gazelle for 20 min. I even had a decent breakfast that wasn't cereal. I had to Morningstar Veggie Sausage Patties and some Eggbeaters. Made me feel like I was having a high-fat breakfast without the guilt. No bread though. I have a yeast allergy.

Hi Gloria-We have really rich soil in our backyard. We just moved into this house almost 2 yrs ago and this year I am going to TRY planting a garden. The last time we did, we had little "baby" pumpkins that were supposed to be huge but they spent too much time in the shade and got about the size of a grape. :D Houseplants are the things I kill the best. Martha Stewart would just die if she saw my gardening skills or my cooking skills for that matter. BTW What kind of dogs do you have? We had a basset hound and a golden lab but they weren't socialized and weren't used to being in town...we lived in the country before. The basset baby bit the neighbor so to keep peace among us all, we had to get rid of them. We still have our 4 cats. I'm not sure if they bug anyone. Georgie is our little social boy. He loves to visit people...and tries to go inside any open door. :lol:

Barb-Hang in there! I've been missing you on this thread and the RA/OA thread too. Hope you're doing okay and somewhat pain-free.

Tricia-I am so with you too. I wish I didn't have to think so much about what goes down my throat either. It's frustrating for me to see my sister's shovel in whatever they want and never gain an ounce, and I can gain weight by just looking at a goodie. My gosh, we have the same genes... Just makes me think about life being unfair and how much I wish I were different.

Okay...I gotta shower, shampoo ,and shine before I go get Kayla from kindergarten. Talk to you all in a while


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01-26-2005, 02:46 PM
This is hubby Carl with our babys. He is eating ice cream and they all want to lick the bowl. Carl can eat anything and not gain an ounce.

Chrile, three of our dogs are just mutts that we save from being put to sleep. The other two were my daughters when she was married and living in Iowa. Jamie's husband at that time decided one day he no longer wanted to be married and Jamie was unable to take care of them, so we took them in.


01-26-2005, 03:14 PM
How can Carl sit there with all those puppy dog eyes staring at him? :lol: Our Basset had the whole "feel sorry for the starving pup" look down perfect. I sure miss our dogs. Maybe we can find a small one without attitude later on after we get a new fence put up.


c bo be
01-26-2005, 04:13 PM
Hello Gloria and everyone for such a good support group. Unfortunately, I had to work 16 hours yesterday and missed my aerobic class, and didn't have any food plans for my evening so I had junk food at work. Bummer. I did not know until the last minute I would be working so long and I had cookies most of my night at work. Anyway, today has not been much better. Ok, it's time to move on, right?

Anyway, so here's my bio. I am 49 years old, married 30 years, have one daughter 25 and a grandson who will be 4 yrs. old in a couple of weeks. I am a cook in our local High School. Yep, I'm a lunchlady. Ha. Ha. Ha.

I too love to excersize. I do step aerobics 2 nights a week, and a toning class 2 nights a week, plus walk with friends 2 nights a week. As a matter of fact I was an aerobic instructor for 5 years. Imagine that. I'm the one who use to motivate other people, and now sometimes I feel just plain lost. What the heck happened? I've had alot of stress the last 4 years, mothers longterm illness and death. I think I just began eating as a stress reliever. Not really caring, basically. Well, I care now, and I'm tired of being overweight and feeling bad about myself. But it's such a struggle to stay on track. I've always been good about working out, but food is my problem right now. I basically am trying to prepare healthy food and snacks, I have alot of weight watcher recipies from a gal at work and I'm constantly searching the internet for more recipies. I like the website, the best. They have healthy living recipies.

Gloria, I also am a crafty person. I use to have my own woodworking and painting business. Did craft shows, wholesale to retailers and have ads in country sampler magazine. Did that for 18 years while my daughter was in school so i could be a stay at home mom. When she graduated i got a job in the cafeteria at school and started working full time. But all those years of painting, caused me to get burnt out. But now I love to go to the craft shows and enjoy other peoples hard work.

Some of my hobbies are gardening, any type of excersize, dancing, playing cards and board games, entertaining my friends. They are having a Belly dance class where I work out and have thought about giving that a try. Let me know what you think of your class, gloria.

Anyway, I haven't figured out all the smileys, weight charts, and how to do the photos that everyone has yet. But I will try to get that figured out sometime soon.

Also, I think it's amazing that you are working out and doing so much since your accident, it sounds like it was quite serious. You are my inspiration. I think this is a great group of people. I'm on board for the 2 lb. weight loss by feb. 7th.

Woo hoo, I'm excited now. Cheryll

01-26-2005, 04:26 PM
Chris, how did your children handle having to get rid of your dogs? We are facing a similar situation. We have rescued dog that we love dearly but, as it happens, is not really fond of children. She has gotten rather aggressive (unprovoked) with my oldest son lately. We've met with our vet and she did advise us that the breeds of her mix are independent and that she will never be a "buddy" to the kids. This, of course, has been a real dissappointment to them. Nonetheless, they love her dearly as do I. The vet told us that the agression she is showing is territorial and may be able to be addressed with some very strict rules (always have her on a leash, crate her when we can't hold her on the leash - she is an inside dog, etc.) to teach her her "place" in our family. Even then, though, we wouldn't trust her around children which, of course, are in and out of our house quite a bit. She is a very adoptable dog just not really suited for our family given that we have three kids. So, we are trying the tips given us by the vet but if we don't see an improvement we will have to give her up. We have a few rescue leagues here that do not euthanize so we'd do that if we couldn't find a new family for her on our own.

We've talked to the kids about the possibility of getting her a new family. We've had her for a year and they are quite attached. Our 6 year old seems to understand why this may have to happen (he's the one getting growled at) but our 4 year olds don't. I'm really worried about the impact that it will have on them and wonder what we might expect. Did you do anything special to make getting rid of your dog easier for them? I'd love to hear any advise you have.


01-26-2005, 05:03 PM
Tricia, the younger ones were okay with it, basically because I think they didn't really understand what was going on. My oldest one took it the hardest. She was hysterical. I had to call the school and have the counselor talk to her because she was so upset. She understands now. It took some time. We told her that they had to go live back out in the country where there wasn't as many people. She stills asks to go see them. We keep telling her it would hurt her and the dogs too much. Rocky, our basset hound, probably would have been a good dog if we hadn't gotten Maggie. Our vet said that even 2 dogs can "pack" up and be aggressive, which is exactly what they were doing. It was just safer to have them go away. Rocky, bit my daughter Kayla, on the face. She had to have stitches on both sides of her mouth. It was kind of an accident. He was snooping on the kitchen table and she startled him and he turned and snapped. I couldn't take the chance of that happening to another child though. Then they got under the fence and went next door and bit the neighbor. That was the final straw. In our state, you can get sued if your dog bites somebody. I think the saving grace for my oldest daughter is that she has a pet dog out at her dad's house. Solo is 14 yrs. old though so I'm not sure how much longer she'll be around. She has arthritis and isn't feeling too good lately. My ex gave her some antibiotics and they helped and he's been giving her tylenol for her aches. Okay...this is a book! I better skiddale.


c bo be
01-26-2005, 05:41 PM
Oh my gosh, Gloria, it looks like you have a couple of dachsunds in your family. I am a big dog lover myself and at one time had 4 dogs. Always, have had dachsunds since i was little. My current dachsunds name is tootsie. She is a piebald dachsund. Have you ever heard of those. She's adorable, loveable, gives lots of kisses. I will try to have my hubbie figure out how to post a picture of her. cheryll

5 dogs
01-26-2005, 06:02 PM
This one is for you Barb. You sound like you need a good laugh.
Went to water aerobics today instead of my step class. About half way thru the class, our instructor told everyone to jump in one place in the water. O.k., i can do that. Because of the water, there is very little pressure put on the back or neck when jumping up and down. So i found myself a nice deep spot because I'm tall, (5"9') and started jumping up and down in the water when i felt something hitting the back of my leg. Looked around to see if there were sharks or something in the water. Nothing. So started jumping up and down again, and the same thing happen. O.k., I know i am not going crazy and there has to be something in this water hitting me. So i started jumping again, only this time i am keeping one eye on the back of my leg. Jump, jump, jump. It was my butt. The pressure from the water was making my butt move and it was hitting the back of my leg. Good thing no one was standing by me or they might have gotten "Butt-lash.:lol3:
Hope you got a big laugh at my little story. I sure did.

01-26-2005, 09:07 PM
Hey everyone :)

Gloria, I am laughing so hard right now! I love water aerobics and wish we had somewhere close that offered them year round. Unfortunately, I do know what you are talking about. Things do move quite differently in the water. :lol: *Love the picture of your husband and the dogs. How did he even manage to keep a bite for himself? I wouldn't have survived with all those puppy dog eyes staring at me. :) And I've wanted to try belly dancing for so long. My sis did it for a while and it really tightened things up quickly, plus her dh was rather fond of the whole idea.

Chris, you sound like one seriously on the go woman. Glad to have you here! Maybe we can talk you into sharing exercise tips? *hint hint hint* I love those Morningstar sausage patties! Love gardening as well, but I still have so much to learn about it all, especially in this part of the country.

Tricia, wow, I read the bit you posted about letting the food control you, and it sounded so much like times I have been through. I get so totally obsessed with keeping track of each number and percentage of this and that. I would end up driving myself insane after a while because you really can't live like that every day. I had to finally step back and take a more simple approach, and it really has brought some balance to my life. *BTW, the crappy car vs. Jag analogy made me smile. It really is the truth! I'm on more of a scooter right now than anything with real horsepower, but I'm still going to be moving the right direction, and that counts. :)

Argh! I'm out of time to write, and I've barely scratched the surface for replies. I hope no one feels ignored or left out. Kat, Lucky, BarbPA, BarbG, Skittles, Laura and Lisa, you know I love you (wow, just realized how stressed I am that I might have missed someone in there!). I got a call this afternoon for a job interview, and it is at 7:30. I'm going to try and get a nap in first and then get all prettied up. This guy actually kept my resume on file for a year and a half and has a position open now. Flattering, if nothing else. :)

Got to go now, take care!


01-27-2005, 02:17 AM
Hey everyone :)

Just a quick update before heading to bed. First off, I finished my day with picture perfect on plan! Go me! Second, I got thinking more and more about why I didn't accept a position with that guy in the first place. It is an insurance office, but the man came across like a bad used car salesman. He had also told me the position would be one wage and at the second interview he had lowered it a full dollar an hour. And, even though he sells insurance, he doesn't offer benefits to his employees. In other words, I'm telling you all that I stayed home and just enjoyed my nap. :lol: Don't worry, I did call and cancel with him first. Oh yeah, I remember the other thing I thought was really odd the first time I interviewed with that guy. He said he wanted to write a book, and when he found out I've done some writing, he said that ghost writing for him could be part of my job description. :dizzy:

Anyway, I'm off to see if I can sleep through an entire night. I'm shooting for anything over 6 hours. That would be a nice improvement over what I have been getting. :)

Night, everyone! And since you probably won't be reading this until your morning anyway, GOOD MORNING!!!


01-27-2005, 09:02 AM
Hi all,

Don't have much time to post, it snowed again last night so I have to go out and shovel again. :) So here is the lowdown. Tomorrow is my therapy appointment to figure out the big ball. I will know what color it is tomorrow. :D Other than that, food has been ok. Haven't done any special exercises other than move stuff, unpack, clean up etc.

BarbG, Prayers and angels are coming your way. I hope everything is getting better for you.

Andria, You made the right choice, guy sounds like a user. I think something better will come your way. However, if you want to do the ghost writer thing, I say make a contract and go back to him with it. Just make sure that you get the money first.:D

Chris, I like Andria's idea of talking you into sharing some tips with us. ;) I know I need all the help I can get. :)

Tricia, I know exactly where you are coming from with the food thing. It most definitely controls me. I know I think about food way too much. And I need to stop, I just don't know how. Even when I know something is bad for me I still think about how good it tastes. I keep telling myself that it is just food. But I don't know what to do, I am constantly thinking about food. It really disgusts me, but I don't know how to not to do it.

Kat, I am glad I make you laugh. And I am not too sour about the Superbowl, I just wanted the Colts to go. :p BTW I like your quote, I am adding that one to my list. That is one of the things I started in my journal, is I write down quotes. I have the Dr. Phil day calendar for my desk at work. And I am keeping all of the quotes on there and putting them in my journal as well. It is just a great way to have a motivation everyday.

Lucky, Hun, I have no suggestions for you, as I have the same issues. :( The only thing I can think of is to just do it. We have to just take 20 minutes and exercise somewhere, keep an extra snack with us all the time, carry that bottle of water everywhere we go. But alas, you see, this is something that I need to work on as well.

OK well, I have to go, I need to shovel and it is going to take a few more minutes to get to work today. I love you all, I am sorry that I don't have time to reply to everyone.

Belly dancing, I've got belly, and it can dance. :lol:

Anyone going to do that 12 Week Oprah challenge. I was reading that last night, boy is that harsh. :o

Snow awaits,

5 dogs
01-27-2005, 11:07 AM
:cheer: Yea for you Andria with a picture perfect day. I remember those kind of day. Makes you feel good when you go to sleep at night knowing you did all the right things to keep you on track.
I agree with you in not wanting to get involved in a company that will use you, then say "So long".
It sounds like you have a hard time sleeping. I see on the time clock you posted around 2 this morning? When i started menopause about 10 years ago, i also had a hard time getting to sleep and staying asleep. Now i take a couple of asprin before i go to bed. It helps my brain calm down and stop thinking about all the stuff i have to do.

Hi Skittles, I loved you story about the ball and your cats. To funny. :lol: How many cats do you have? Carl and i have alway had one cat and one dog. At one time we even had three cats and i was always changing the litter box. Have you ever had a cat that thought it was a dog? Cat even went out side to do its business.
I am glad to hear that i am not the only one that thinks about food alllll the time. Even as i sit here typing i am thinking about what is in my kitchen to eat. I was watching the Dr. Phil show one day, and he said that if you take something away from your daily routine, then you have to replace it with something else. That made since. So if i stop thinking about food all the time, replace it with....:shrug:.... what? I know, talking on the computer with my friends, talking a walk.......

I have two dachsunds Cheryll. My daughter (Jamie) was married for about two years and living in Iowa. Then out of nowhere, he told her he didn't want to be married anymore. No lets talk about it. Nothing. He bought her two dachsunds about two months before he split, so she could not take care of them. Hubby and i took them in so that is how we ended up with five dogs.

Mother-in-law just came over so will have to go for now.
Love to all of you.

01-27-2005, 11:53 AM
Have any of you ever staggered your calories? I've read a few articles about it and it makes sense to me. The posts I've seen on this site were really more geared towards a free day where you would eat your alloted calories each day and on the 7th day have an eating free for all. That doesn't appeal to me and it doesn't seem to me like it would work for weight loss or increasing metablolism as the posters were trying to do.

The information I've come across is actually just planning your calories for the week rather than the day. So, if my calorie goal is 1500, rather than try and reach that for the day I would shoot for 10,500 for the week. The goal is to never eat the same number of calories two days in a row. The first couple of days would be of average intake, maybe 1200 the first day and 1400 the second. Then, the third day is called a "refeeding" day and you would increase the intake to 2000 or so, the fourth and fifth days are average again, the 6th day is a low cal day 900-1000 and the the seventh day is another refeeding day but bigger than the first maybe 2300-2400 (I don't know if my numbers add up just using examples). The higher calorie days still consist of healthy fare, just more of it. Complex carbohydrates is what was specifically suggested. The point is to keep from ever reaching the point where your body adjusts to a certain calorie level thus keeping your metablism slightly higher allowing your body to continue burning fat at a reasonable level (as opposed to muscle). Also, it keeps your body from ever hitting the starvation mode that people speak of forcing your body to try and hold onto its fat storage - I don't think I'm in any danger of this though. LOL.

Anyway the reason that I ask is because I could tell that my loss each week was starting to slow down despite following my plan each day. Nothing unusual there. But this week I lost more than I had expected to. I looked back at some fitday reports and realized that I had actually staggered my calories as descriped above (I didn't mean too, I just did). And one reason I didn't expect to see much of a loss was because of the "big" day where I had eaten close to 2000 calories. My average calorie intake came to 1300 per day instead of 1500 - which I think is another reason they suggest the can lower your average rather painlessly.

The catch is that I don't know if this week was just a fluke or if there really is something to the staggering. And, of course, the other question is whether or not the last day being high calorie would make it difficult to get back on plan and start over. Personally, I think I could do this but I know it isn't for everybody. I've been doing this long enough that eating that much makes me feel physically yucky so if I over do it I tend to want to jump immediately back on plan.

Any thoughts? I think I am going to try it - but not until AFTER our two pound challenge - just in case it I just got lucky this past week.

Hope everyone has a great day today!

c bo be
01-27-2005, 03:41 PM
Hello everyone, today I feel back on track again. Lost a couple of days this week and ate horrible. But so far today I've eaten healthly. I'm also cooking asian chicken wraps for supper tonight. WW recipe. Hmmm good. Last year at work we took turns every friday bringing in a sample of a healthy recipe. It would rotate between 10 women, so that wasn't too bad. We brought in copies of our recipies we prepared to share with everyone. That was alot of fun for all of us. Plus we got to try samples of food we'd never eaten before.

I don't know how to clear my thoughts about food all the time. Even when I'm eating healthily I'm still thinking ahead about food. I hope to get into aerobics tonight, but I have a dentist appointment scheduled only 40 min. before my class. I'm not good about working out at home. I need the structure of a class. I have two friends at work that are joining my toning class next week. I think that will bring some new fun into my workouts.

Anyway, I hope to stay strong tonight and not start the snacking routine. Better go brush and floss. Have a good evening all! Cheryll

southern gal
01-27-2005, 10:00 PM
Hi all,
Just a quick check in and then I'm going to bed. I had to get up at 5:00 this morning to attend a school conference with my principal in a town 2 hours away. Ugh! Lots of fun. Did get my walking in this afternoon but my food was the pits today - my principal choose the restaurant and my weak willpower did the rest. Southern fried cooking is not on my food plan... :(

BarbG - Hugs and prayers to you!

Gloria - Cute dogs! We only have one right now but Queen Hershey rules our house... I loved your water aerobics story - I can relate too well to that one! Yes, I know where Blairsville is. Up close to Dahlonega, right? I love that area of the state. It is really pretty up there. Did you know we are supposed to get ice (yes, ICE!) in North GA this weekend? You guys be careful! :sman:

Tricia - I've done some reading about the staggered calories and I think there might be something to it. I know when I was on WW, the weeks I really thought I had blown it were the ones I would have big losses on. I could faithfully stick to program - and end up in the same place I had started the week. Let me know if it works that way for you. I may have to figure out what I would need to do and try it! :dunno:

Andria, Chris, Kat, Lucky, and Cheryll - Best wishes for a great tomorrow! My eyeballs are closing....


01-27-2005, 10:17 PM
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