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Weight Loss Surgery - Hospital list for MysTekView Full Version : Hospital list for MysTek POOKIE88 01-20-2005, 11:29 AM * MysTeK 01-20-2005, 02:31 PM Thankyou so much, you all are so informative. I thought the baby powder idea was wonderful, as well as the post about the chap stick...dr's just dont seem to think about those things. Thankyou all. 6 days to go, is it normal to be this nervous! :dizzy: jiffypop 01-20-2005, 02:47 PM good heavens yes!!!!! this is a major surgery, and we'd be far more concerned if you were not worried or nervous or something. and pookie darlin - you are WAY too kind.. tell us more about yourself, mystek--- who's your surgeon, what you're doing for support groups, what kind of protein shakes you've tried... what you're planning for exercise.. hey. whatever works.. how do the people closest to you feel about this step? MysTeK 01-20-2005, 04:24 PM Hello ladies, Well, im 25, (250 lbs)...due to not so good dr's care after a serverally dislocated pubic bone and no rehab or directives, the weight came on so very quickly, tooooo quickly. Over 120 lbs in less than 2 years. Alot of people say "your so young, you dont need it, your just lazy." IM SO TIRED OF HEARING THIS< EVEN FROM MY CLOSEST FRIENDS" They are so used to seeing me energetic and healthy and thin, that they cant understand that sometimes things that are not under your own control, can CONTROL your life. Food being my drug of choice to help soften the pain. Layed up in bed unable to do any type of excersize due to pain for over a year, pretty much stuck me in the rut im in now. Ive tried everything, had successes with alot of them, even Meridia (losing 70 lbs in 8 months), but once of the prescription prescribed drug and unable to excersize gained it back and than some the following year. Now with my pubic bone being completely healed for the past 6 months, they have tried everything even excersize with no success. So i decided WLS was the way to go for me. Or fear ending up like my father, 38 yrs old -having a double bypass. Ok, i apologize, im such a chatter box. Ive decided to go with the 100% whey protein for my drink, the main reason because i dont intake enough protein as it is that the more i can get the better. For people like myself, who dont eat much in the means of fish and eggs, my surgeon, DR. EGAN ( Balboa Hospital, in SD, CA) reccomended ISOPURE ZERO CARB. HE also explained that sometimes the taste isnt a factor after surgery since most peoples taste buds are hightened! Good thing, beacause it dont taste so grand! a local nutrition center sells it for 50.00 for 3 lbs, but i found it for less than 30.00 at a competing nutrition store. In two scoops you get over 50g of protein with no carbs, no too shabby. My biggest struggle would be my water intake, and ive been doing well, small sips throughout the day to better prepare me. Other than that, after getting over my obstacles with food, im extremely anxcious. Im mostly looking forward to being able to roll around (okay more like bounce) on the floor with my two year old son and have the energy to get out of bed in the mornings, and sweep my floor without having to cry through the pain. ok, i think ive eared you all too death, no offense taken if you didnt read it all!!!! im a gabber. ****Here is a website ladies, for those who havent had their surgery yet, ive cleared it with my surgeon, and all the suggestions dealing with supplements and vitamins are actually considered the best choice plan for a tip top recovery. http://www.teklawgirl.biz/nutrition_after_wls.htm MysTeK 01-20-2005, 04:27 PM oh yeah, im searching for an awesome support group, since i move around so much with the military...im in hopes of finding something just right for me, if not id like to help start one, somewhere within this website..if there isnt one. original_serendipity 01-20-2005, 06:10 PM So, I'm guessing that would make you a spouse. Or possibly a veteran, or both, like myself. There will soon be a (better) support group at Balboa, if you're interested. Let me know and I will get you the info, MysTek. I am having an open RNY on Jan 26th, in 6 days. 3 working days. Wow. I did my freak out on Monday night, lol. I only had 13 days notice and prep time, overall. Fortunately, I had most of my big lab stuff already done, like a sleep study and and ECG done in May 2004. So, right now I'm hurrying up and "sampling" protien supplements and looking for vitamin supplements that will work best for me. I found that Centrum makes a liquid version of their everyday vitamin supplement. I'm going to try it, and get back to ya'll on the gag factor. :faint: I'm writing down everything you guys are saying to bring to the hospital, lol. slippers, check. baby powder, check. Has anyone thought to bring music? I haven't read all the posts yet. I rely on music (with headphones, of course) to relieve stress, relax, kick back, fight pain, work out, etc. MysTeK 01-20-2005, 06:49 PM TOO FUNNY!!! My surgery is the 26th too, im a military spouse...i had 19 days to prepare, i figured id be like most people here in the posts who waited a few months, but i think balboa is in a hurry, to gain xp for the lap procedure :) I dont know what all you have heard, i really wanted they RNY done lap., but the surgeon coursed me away from that. He says the line of site isnt as accurate, and leakage is more prone. ALthough i met a woman who had it done , military spouse, through Sharps lap., and she was out of the hosp. it two days. I was really stoked to hear they dont cut the stomach muscle during the open procedure!! He said if i wanted to i could wait a few months, but im ready to begin mylife NOW...no more waiting. jiffypop 01-20-2005, 10:03 PM welcome you two californians by military!!! and amy - this IS a support group. but most of us come here AND to one where we see people face to face. a warning about the 50 grams of protein. be careful!!! right after the surgery, it takes A LONG TIME to get down a protein drink, but you gotta do it within 30 minutes. i don't like isopure, but i do like the syntrax. bottom line, whatever works. but another key thing is that after the surgery, we really can't absorb more than about 20-25 grams of protein at a time, so forcing yourself to drink all 50 grams will not only make you miserable, but also waste the protein. there are lots more tips around here. and please PLEASE share the ones you pick up along the way!!! glad to have you here! MysTeK 01-21-2005, 01:25 AM Well that is good to know, im not good at the whole protein thing. Do you have any suggestions once i get out of stage 1 for protein, i cant stand fish! You are all so wonderful, reading everyones stories are truly inspirational. And i have the weirdest question, maybe a little t.m.i. as well....But, hey that is what this is for-Right?!?!? ok, so after surgery we cant really bend in order for proper suture healing. What about when i need to wipe my A**!!! no seriously, i have short little arms, and a huge belly so i always find myself bending oddly to properly take care of myself in that area. I would really hate if my hubby would have to do those *dooties*. lol. :D jiffypop 01-21-2005, 10:25 AM That whole twisting thing can be a challenge. on the up side, since you won't be taking much in, there won't be much coming out, if ya get my meaning. lots of folks SWEAR by those sponges on sticks... gotta scoot to a meeting right now. more later jiffypop 01-21-2005, 05:01 PM you get them in drugstores[i think] or those stores that have medical devices like wheelchairs, compression stockings, those little push-stools, that elderly people need. but i promise you, Mystek - it's TEMPORARY!!!! you'll be twisting and bending sooner than you realize!!! original_serendipity 01-21-2005, 05:39 PM Alrighty then, lol. Were you at the pre-op meeting this past Wedsnesday night? original_serendipity 01-21-2005, 05:41 PM That can't happen until they've completed 50 successful open RNY's there. Also, TriCare West just this past Tuesday began allowing coverage for the lap approach for patients discharged to civilian providers. The lap approach does have a higher risk for leakage and infection. And a higher mortaility rate under an inexperienced doctor with that approach. MysTeK 01-22-2005, 05:34 AM Yeah i know balboa had to reach 50, that is what i meant, as to them pushing us all through so quickly, not that it is a bad thing of course. I sat in the front, i was the one in the back reaming the nutrionist for his poor attitude and knowledge after the meeting!!! My private session with him didnt go so well. And other woman that night told me the same thing. He pretty much expressed this surgery was nonsense and it was a fault of pure laziness. When i asked him "have you ever been morbidly obese", "have you ever been to tears out of pain becaseu you couldnt pick up your two year old"....he was floored, but i think he may have finally understood. THen afterwards i gave him a wonderful website to veiw where i got alot of info from nutrition and told him i wished him luck and would see him after surgery. i felt bad, but like you- i have researched this for over a year, and feel if you are going to support so many woman in their fight to better health, you should know a little of what you are doing. I feel bad, he jsut kinda was handed the job, so in a sense didnt mind helping him out with the info i had found. Hey im by no means a doctor, and of course you cant believe everythign you read off the net, but i think he was releaved i did my research and knew what i was getting myself into. Thanks for the sponge on a stick, i did home care for 2 years and cant believe i forgot about that....im telling you guys, im losing brain cells. Thats too funny serendipity.....i hope to see you roaming that nurses station with me!!! maybe we will be sharing a room, lol! poor you!!!! Yeah, pookie, that avatar was from the better days....Here is too hoping to seeing them again soon ...CHEERS TO ALL OF US. MY HEARTBURN IS KILLING!!! LOL original_serendipity 01-22-2005, 02:23 PM Don't feel bad, I've lost quite a few brain cells myself. I got the impression that the nutritionist wasn't with the program. But I've reached a point where, if someone can't help me, I will draw the line on how much of my precious energy I waste on them. I gave him more info than he gave me as well. I didn't stick around once the meeting was over. I have issues with flourescent lights and by the time we left, I had such a bad migraine I was in tears. Mostly because I knew I couldn't take anything for it, lol. I was the one getting all the blank stares when I asked about kidney stones and elemental calcium. To which their reply did not satisfy my need for an answer. Ya, blank, deer-in-the-headlights stares. :coffee: jiffypop 01-22-2005, 02:51 PM i'm so glad you two found each other !!! and us!!!! about the nutritionist... many of them don't kjnow SH from shinola about this... find one that specialises in aftercare. there are so few of them. if ANYONE suggests that people under 6 months post-surgery should be eating 3-4 oz of meat at a meal, RUN AWAY!!!!! the pouch is way too small to fit that much meat, and you run the risk of stretching the opening. eat until you're comfortably full. mine was at about 15 grams of protein [2 oz or so] plus a few bites of veg. but each of us has to find the path that works. all we - or anyone else can offer - is guidelines. how about DARING that nutritionist to show up here? THAT should be an exciting discussion.... jiffypop 01-22-2005, 02:53 PM and serendipity; what was their answer about the kidney stones? inquiring minds want to know... original_serendipity 01-22-2005, 03:36 PM Ok, I had just read alot of information about GBS patients developing kidney stones because of the type of calcium, elemental calcium, found in Tums. The surgeon recommended Tums for calcium supplementation. I wanted to know if maybe, these people were taking too much calcium, because when you do, it typically deposits itself in the kidneys, from the bloodstream. (Now if this is true, why don't "normies" have the same problem on such a large scale?) They couldn't give me a straight answer. As far as it and iron causing constipation, very true. It also can depend largely on the type of iron you take. Not sure what to say about the calcium. Maybe, an artificially sweetened form of calcium citrate? I know the iron form called ferrous sulfate will cause constipation in a heartbeat. It is also the least-easily absorbed by the system. I currently take ferrous gluconte, and I have no problems with it, and I absorb it quite well. I don't absorb iron from food, normally. I have microacidic anemia. There is an excellent website I was told about on the OSSG-military website on yahoo: Vitalady. She runs her own website for WLS patients, and anyone else interested in supplements. She sells a form of iron that is easily absorbed by GBS patients, and it doesn't cause constipation. :crossed: original_serendipity 01-22-2005, 03:41 PM My apologies, not microacidic amenia. Mycrocytic anemia. MysTeK 01-22-2005, 05:02 PM Im glad i read the tums thing from you serendipity. Yes although we need calcium, are bodies will only absorb so much. I refuse to take tums, simply because you have to take so many to become beneficial as well as by that time your running the risk of an overload, which your body will just dump anyway. the website i posted is awesome because she is a rn who had the procedure as well and she suggests caltrate 600 chewables twice a day. I asked the surgeon and the nutriitonist and they both agreed that could be an easier route for some people. Especially with the absorption process. I dont really understand the logistics of the whole thing, but id rather two chewables that do the same work as 4-6, plus caltrate is meant for the strict person of calcium citrate intake. Im not sure about the kidney stones, but we will be taking liquid actigal, physician prescribed, for three months post op to deal with gallstones, since there is a 40% chance of us getting one. Im not sure what their plans are for kidney stones though. My brain feels so full of all this info, im getting confusabubbed! But that is what Jiffy is for! and Pook, those chickadee's (HER TOO) are so smart! MysTeK 01-22-2005, 05:10 PM Here ya go ladies!!! Bariatric advantage sells vitamins strictly for bariatric patients , they are expensive but are strickly targeted for what our new bodies need, they suggest started them in phase 2 for most of them, which is after 2 weeks. -Optifast also has a protein drink strictly for bariatric patients original_serendipity 01-22-2005, 05:49 PM MysTek, I found a much, much better source for protein than Optisource. It's called ProStat 64. It contains 64 calories, 30 grams of protien, and absolutely no dairy. All in one ounce. The protien is also predigested by a fruit-source hydrolization process, which makes it far easier for our new stomachs to absorb and digest. It comes in cherry and butter pecan. It's more expensive per bottle than anything else, but when you consider that a serving of this is one ounce, and a serving of anything else for 30 grams is anywhre from 4 to 20 ounces, it's a damn good bargain. I know you can get it at web4med but I'm trying to find it locally so I don't have to buy so much at one time. Web4med requires a $60 minimum total on orders. original_serendipity 01-22-2005, 06:00 PM Also, gallstones are a by-product of extremely rapid weightloss. There's not a whole lot beyond the Actigall we can do to prevent them. Or cause them, for that matter. I just got news from my mother-in-law about my father-in-law, he had to have surgery for a type of tumor in his pancreas. Actually he had three. One was the size of a standard baseball. The other two were egg sized. They were filled with mucous. He had to have a procedure caled a Whipple procedure. It involves removing about half of his pancreas, to prevent pancreatic cancer, 40% of his stomach, his duodenum, his gallbladder, and about 4 inches of his small intestine, below the duodenum. Sounds like he had his own gastric bypass by proxy. Poor man. He's doing ok, despite his blood pressure shooting up and requiring 16 pints of blood. They even reattached his intestines they way they do ours. Strange stuff. Up until the 1970's, this operation had an 80% mortality rate. Now it's down to about 8%. MysTeK 01-22-2005, 10:02 PM AHH poor guy, thanks for that webysite!!! That butter pecan sounds delicious!!! mmmm yummy. My mom told my grandma just had GBS yesterday due to the amount of scar tissue they found around her entire stomach area due to un needed surgeries, i guess she had a bunch of blockages and she was having major complications so they had to clean her out. She has had over 20 in the last 35 years or so. I guess when they were in cleaning her out there was a mishap wich forced them to do a emergency gastric bypass. She almost died. She has champus insurance as a retired veteran and they actually told her they are going to supply her with all her supplements and protein drinks, Must be nice. 4 days to go ladies!!! our you ready serendipity!!! Im actually getting pretty anxcious now!!! original_serendipity 01-22-2005, 10:43 PM Oh my gosh!! Hope your grandma is ok. Really nice that all her supplements are paid for. I will keep an eye out to see if that ever changes for us. My hubby retires in a year and some change. Ready? I'm about to cry. I was standing in the commissary at 32nd St. about an hour ago, stocking up on Hamburger Helper and spaghetti noodles and sauce for hubby. And, I just thought I was going to cry. I had no warning, no clue. I thought I was done freaking out Monday night. I think a little chocolate ice cream is in order (my apologies to anyone reading this who can't have chocolate or ice cream anymore; i'm not trying to be mean). :cry: http://www.3fatchicks.com/weight-tracker/img/bar036/luck02/lb/278/145/261/ (http://www.3fatchicks.com/weight-tracker/index.php) jiffypop 01-23-2005, 12:01 AM ok darlins... the evil moderator has taken out the weblinks and edited your posts so that people can still access the information. i have ISSUES with optifast - they want us coming and going. pre op weight loss. post op weight loss. liquid fasts [which contributed to some of us getting to this point!] there are MANY excellent protein supplements out there, and there's no real need to get one especially designed for WLS patients. great info on the calcium. most of us spread it out through the day, and the chewables are my choice as well. those horse pills???? NOT HAPPENING!!! no way. go for absorptiveness, which generally means no carbonate. i was also told that kidney stone prevention requires large amounts of water as well. but if a person is prone to get them, there might be no way to avoid them. now serendipity... of COURSE you're freaking out, and it will continue even post-surgery. more than most of us EVER thought possible. and at some point, you might actually be able to have a small amount of ice cream. don't push it, though. but... the REAL issue is the comfort eating. it's not an option any more. [believe me, we ALL fight it]. As much as we want it, and it's the first thing we turn to, it's gotta stop if we're to be successful at keeping the weight off. i wish i had a better answer for you than this, but i don't. have you developed other sources of comfort? stress management? i took up knitting again [after a 30 year hiatus] simply to keep my hands busy and to center myself. and it's with me ALL THE TIME. especially when i go out to eat. since i can't continue eating after a certain point, and i have friends and family who can YAK FOR HOURS, i can't pick the way everyone else does... soooo. let's talk about this.. it's a REAL important point... original_serendipity 01-23-2005, 12:44 AM Hmmm, very true about the protein sources. I am extremely picky about their tastes, though, lol. Alot of them are absolutely atrocious. And will I be able to consume enough water to ward off kidney stones? I'd like to think so. Don't worry, I am staying away from the ice cream, lol. I won't give in. I am not an emotional eater by nature, thankfully. Although, I have an extreme amount of empathy for those who are. I am a pms-sugar-craving-monster, however. I do really well at controlling that, usually. (And since I have endometriosis and PCOS, I have 14 to 18 days cycles; my life is **** :dizzy: ). I usually meditate when I am truly stressed out, but I meditate at regular times throughout the day anyway. Just throw a few extra times in when needed. I also love to read. I am a huge sci fi fan. Some fantasy too. Lately, I have been "rehabilitating" my backyard. We just moved in here, it's a rental, and the prior tenants did nothing to take care of it. So, I've been doing alot of excavating and removing small dead hardwood tree stumps. By hand. If that's not enough to drain anyone's stress, I don't know what is. I have also been working out just a little harder to strengthen my heart and lungs for surgery/recovery. Right now, I am brewing a nice strong cup of lemon zinger tea, decaff, of course :coffee: and planning my little water feature I am going to put in once the last stump is removed. As far as the calcium, there is a supplement called UpCalD which is a powder, so you don't have to chew, swallow whole pills, or sublinguate anthing. You mix it with drinks or foods that are low in iron. Sorry about the links, I forgot about not being able to post those. MysTeK 01-23-2005, 05:48 AM Wow after reading your last post serendipity, i feel like a food lush. Lately ive been eating just because i know it will be along time until i enjoy some things again, i have a sore spot for oriental foods, especially thia (spicy!!!!), and i dont expect to be seeeing those days for a long time. So i guess in sense im totally emotionally eating this week, which is so not like me. Also, i watched a lifetime movie tonight, made me ball my eyes out!!! I can feel your pain serendipity, im glad we are normal though! thanks jiff.teeheee. Yeah, your hubby and mine would get along great, i stocked up on mac and cheese, hamburger helper, and cereal. My husband and kids could survive off those three things. They are so unlike me, im a vegetable nut. Ive realized im one of those people who prefer to quit and make drastic changes cold turkey, im not sure what posseses me to do this, but it seems to work. I quit smoking cold turkey, and stopped eating meat cold turkey, so i guess im going to stop eating "cold turkey" as of monday 8 am......48 hour liquid diet countdown (joy). Please pray for me, i know i will be. I had thia on thursday with a friend, today i had chinese (alot of tofu stuff, so not too bad), and i have really been cutting my portions in thirds. So, im hoping i can do this. My downfall is....i honestly love the taste of food. The more unique-the better. Watch out-you have an odd cookie in the group, ME!!!! original_serendipity 01-23-2005, 01:43 PM Oh, don't get me wrong. I have been eating things I don't normally eat on a regular basis. I've had chinese food twice this week. Steamed rice, mushroom chicken with lots of zucchini. But, I'm eating them because I like them and I know I won't be able to taste some of them again for a very long time. And I don't go beyond the boundaries of true hunger or infringe on emotional eating. I've seen what can happen to people who do, and it's heartbreaking. Praying for you too!! One more thing I will be doing because I know I won't be able to do it for a while, the morning of our surgery, my husband is bringing me up on his Harley. :D I'm going to stuff his saddlebags full of all my goodies and pillow. I'll probably have a backpack too, lol.So, do not feel like a lush!!! One of the primary reasons I can't go and eat whatever I want is because I have IBS, and alot of things irritate my stomach. So, lush out, girl!! lol jiffypop 01-23-2005, 06:35 PM about the spicy food.... who said you won't be able to eat it??? a month after my surgery, i was eating deviled eggs made with hot salsa, hot sauce, and chili powder. but i have to warn you, it hurt just a wee bit - like rubbing hot sauce into a cut on your hand. a couple of weeks later, there wasn't any pain. of course my surgeon rolled his eyes when i told him, but his attitude is 'whatever works.' remember, right after the surgery, some things will work just fine and other things just won't. i couldn't eat a scrambled egg for about 2 years, unless i put lots of stuff in it. other people lived on them. i had trouble with chicken and real turkey [not the deli turkey]. and turkey is still a little iffy. soooo, a little patience, and you can be eating the hot stuff again. be careful with this 'last supper syndrome.' if you gain a significant amount of weight doing it, you increase your surgical risk, and NO ONE WANTS THAT!!!!! just a couple more days... i'll be with pookie, thinking of you and praying for you and sending warm hugs along... original_serendipity 01-24-2005, 01:59 AM Is it possible that you guys had issues with scrambled eggs because whole eggs are so rich? Or, when you had boiled eggs, did you eat the whole egg, or just the whites? I know I can only eat whole eggs if they are scrambled, and even then, I have a seriously low limit, lol. I like my omelettes with one yolk and three whites, lol. And lots of mushroom and green onions, lol.:D jiffypop 01-24-2005, 08:48 AM nope!!!! nice thought, though. poached eggs were fine. and i used the entire yolk in the deviled eggs, along with the spices, mustard, and a yummy lowfat chipotle mayo.. it was definitely a texture thing... texture becomes more important than you can imagine. and while you heal, some things will be awful one day and fine the next, and vice versa. so please don't get discouraged - it's temporary. - long-term temporary - measured in weeks and perhaps months, but it does end!!!!! i promise. this next statement is something i don't usually share because it sounds too much like bragging, but i actually said something wise in the middle of it - so PAY ATTENTION!!!! :lol: a number of docs have been absolutely marveling at my 'success' in this process. after about 18 months, my surgeon started up again, and i said that at the beginning, everyone, including him and his office staff, were telling me 'at this time next year you'll be doing XXXX or wearing XXXX or eating XXXXX.' whatever it was. and i told him that i realized that i could focus only on one day at a time, and i simply could not think of those far-off days. and his eyes got really big and he said 'you are right.' so the wisdom in all of this is: ONE DAY AT A TIME. and when things get a little tough [and this is from a woman who threw up a couple of times a day for about 6 weeks - twitchy stomach - nothing wrong, nothing i did wrong - the surgeon said that some people just have them as they heal] just get through the RIGHT NOW. original_serendipity 01-24-2005, 11:07 AM Wow, everyday for 6 weeks? How many pregnancy tests did you go through? lol The surgeons and bariatric nurse at Balboa have been very non-commital when it comes to people asking thoise kinds of questions, except to say what the "average" is, and that everyone varies. Texture, hmmmmm. Oh, this is going to be fun. I start my pre-op diet today, surgery is day after tomorrow. MysTeK 01-24-2005, 01:20 PM speaking of.....can i have nutrasweet in my tea this morning, just curious!!!! i know i cant after surgery but wasnt sure about our 48 hour pre-op diet. If not, ill be okay, i have blueberry and vanilla tea, so they are yummy without it! cheers. jiffypop 01-24-2005, 02:27 PM no nutrasweet?????? amy - i promise you - this is the FIRST TIME i've ever heard THIS one... why did they say that??? i LIVE on the stuff - and have for a long time. in fact. from what i've been told, it's almost the sweetener of choice for us because of the lower incidence of insulin spikes with it.... as for the 'how often do people throw up'question. they're right: it IS individual. i was on the more frequent end of the spectrum, and i've known a couple of people who are more than 2 years out who HAVE NEVER THROWN UP!!!! the vast majority of these INCIDENTS depend on factors a person can control: eating too fast, not chewing enough, eating too much, eating and drinking at the same time. then there are things a person can SORT of control: Like peeling peaches and nectarines, or not eating artichokes for awhile. too much fibrous material and it sometimes bunches up in the tiny tummy no matter how well you chew it. and then there's the 'twitchy tummy' group. things just don't sit right. and serendipity - no pregnancy tests - ya gotta DO somethng in order to become pregnant... not happening!!!! original_serendipity 01-24-2005, 02:45 PM :sorry: Ooops, sorry about the preggo test crack. I would have been taking them like crazy, I just imagined any other woman would have too. Didn't occur to me that the stork has nada to do with it these days, lol. MysTek, I am reading the pre-op diet right now. It doesn't say anything about sweeteners, so I imagine you can have anything from real sugar down to sucralose, aspartame, maltose, etc. The things listed for drinkig don't specifiy diet or non-diet soda. Just that the Jello and ice pops can't be red or purple and coffee must be decaf. You can have juice, but no pulp. If I didn't help you any, you can call tehm. The number for gen surgery is 532-6228/7575. MysTeK 01-24-2005, 03:15 PM They just werent very specific on the paper, that is why i was so uncertain. But, i guess since they were so generalized and didnt say "sugar-free" than im good to go!!! So far, only one hunger pain, but drank some veggie broth and it seemed to work. I can do this!!!! original_serendipity 01-24-2005, 04:03 PM Cool, I had some decaf coffee. Got some jello in the works. Hubby's got today off, and he's begging for homemade mac n' cheese. :dizzy: original_serendipity 01-24-2005, 05:09 PM Ok, I just had my bloodsugar crash. How am I going to make it through the next two days? Everything on the "allowed" list is based on processed sugar or concentrated fruit sugar. I called the nutritionist and he went off in left field. Had to remind him, that right now, I'm just worried about today and tomorrow. I have to have complex carbs and protein in my daily diet to prevent this. I haven't had one this big in about 7 or 8 weeks. Alcohol does the same thing to me. :?: Help! original_serendipity 01-24-2005, 05:25 PM They are absolutely adamant that it is a 48 hour liquid diet. I just talked to the nutritionist and he told me to eat regular and sugar free jello, mixed and to constantly drink gatorade to stabilize. I forgot that gatorade has glucose as a sweetener. That is the least likely thing to spin me up. So, off to the commissary with me. original_serendipity 01-24-2005, 05:33 PM It's allowed, but it only has 1 to 2 grams of protein, little or no fat, and anywhere from 4 to 8 grams of carbs. The unbalanced ratio of carbs to protein is what antagonizes my hypoglycemia. Yay. lol I've been nursing chicken broth, the one I have with the most fat and protein, lowest carbs in my pantry. My bloodsugar dropped to 68. :dunno: I'll let you know how the gatorade works out. MysTeK 01-25-2005, 10:44 AM Hard, is an undrstatement. Im now wondering if I may have early signs of diabetes. I had a migraine headache so bad last night that i was brought to tears, on top of that my neighbor came over and was eating a bacon, egg, and cheese bagel...needless to say i was tramatized. By the end of the night, nothing tasted good, and the smell of bullion make me almost puke, so i went to bed...it was the only way i could deal with it all. Its hard taking someones most favorite thing away from them, it is alot harder than i though. ALOT. To top it all off, i woke up with a runny nose this morning, and i hope that wont be a problem. I dont know what id do without friends like you all!!!! Talk to you all later today. original_serendipity 01-25-2005, 03:06 PM MysTek, your migraine could have been brought on by low blood sugar, or stress. Diabetic headaches are usually caused by the bloodsugar being so high, that the blood is like syrup, thus making one's blood pressure very high, causing the headache. Your bloodsugar would have to be something like anywhere from 800 to 2,000 to cause a headache like that. Also, one of the bloodtests they gave us is a fasting glucose, and it would have caught it. If you're still worried about it, tomorrow morning, ask the doc to order an A1C glucose tracker. It measures your monthly average in one draw and gives you the best overall number. 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