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jennym1173
05-13-2001, 01:23 PM
Hi everyone! I posted on the Zone #29 thread at the very end, but it wasn't until later that I noticed that someone mentioned that you were starting a new thread, so I reposted my question to this new thread (I'm sorry - I don't mean to clutter a board up, but I wasn't sure if I had to repost my question on a new thread for you to see??).

Anyhow, here was my original post:

Soon-toBe-Newbie Here! :)

Hi everyone and Happy Mother's Day to all the mommies here.

I have never visited one of the Zone message boards before but you all sound like THE most upbeat, positive group of people I've ever "read" on here!!!

I want to start the Zone plan.....I am getting married next January and am currently 220 pounds. I don't want to be stick-think by then but I would be totally HAPPY around 150-160 pounds - enough to feel COMFORTABLE and at PEACE with my body and self-esteem again. That's all I want. I know a few things about high-glycemic non-no's and have no trouble avoiding those (cakes, candies, corn, etc).

Anyhow, I have a question for you...when I've gone to Borders looking at Dr. Sears' books, I see several of them....."Mastering the Zone"...."Entering the Zone" and maybe even another one that I remember. What is the basic difference bertween them and which do you all recommend first for someone totally new to the Zone way of eating?

Thank you and have a super day!!!!!!!!!

Jennifer


Jakeswoman
05-13-2001, 07:30 PM
Hi Jennifer! Jump right in-- thanks for starting the new thread!!

I have "Mastering the Zone", it has been a long time since I read it but it was very helpful!! I also bought the start-up kit at www.zoneperfect.com (I think, Maureen will correct me) and that came with a bunch of informational stuff. But it is expensive and I was successful with my first 20 pounds by just using the Mastering th Zone book and the people on this thread. I also have a book called 40-30-30 fat burning that is less overwhelming and condenses info-- but that is not a Dr. Sears book-- but the same philosophy.

I don't remember how much I weighed when I started here in 1999(?)-- Some of my posts say 225, some say 215 and I think I said 205 once. Before I got serious I flucuated alot between 205 and 225. But I was only briefly at 225-- I spent alot of time at 199-205. I am 160 now and I only have 10 more pounds to go until I stop. I feel like a million bucks and I give alot of credit to the Zone theory!! Within 2 weeks of first starting I couldn't beleive the energy I had. I was very strict and followed the blocks to a T and I am a work out nut! It all can work! It has taken me 3 years but that was by choice as I took breaks here and there--- that is the beauty of the Zone-- it is easy to hop on and off and soon it becomes a life style. I go to Weight Watchers for accountability and for more group support-- but with WW I can intergrate the Zone philosphy and it has been very successful for me. YOU CAN DO IT!!!

Exercise is very important-- but if it has been a long time for you you may want to consult your doctor. Even 30 minutes of walking as often as you can in the week makes a difference-- in the beginning the walking (that was all I could (barely) do) saved my sanity and took me out of my darkness. 3 years ago I couldn't walk up a flight of stairs without huffing and puffing (and crying) and now I run 5 mile races-- it is all unbelieveable!

Good Luck- this is a great site-- these women are the best.

I'll post soon--- I am almost on summer break and will be able to check in more often.

Amy

Mrs. Yogi
05-14-2001, 01:52 PM
Hey Jennifer, welcome to the gang.

You have plenty of time to drop down into your comfort zone, so you're well on your
way already. "Enter the Zone" is the starter book, which came out quite awhile ago
and has been updated (visit the zone website for updates on increased calorie
intake for women - it's not 9 blocks anymore, it's 11, very important to eat enough!)

Mastering the Zone has recipes in it for those who need more in-depth info on meal
preparation. You'll find that once you get started, it will become intuitive. The main thing is to get an exercise plan in place and to just do it regularly. Whether it's walking, running, biking or going to the gym, you have to incorporate it into your day somehow or you might not attain the goal you've set for yourself.

And drink lots and lots of water

As Jakeswoman sez, it ain't a diet, it's a lifestyle, and it's not something I'm planning on abandoning once I get to my goal. It just feels too good (I'm more alert, have way more energy and motivation) to ever go back to the dozy, starch-filled life I was leading before!

I'll look forward to seeing your progress as you post.

179/165/150
Starting weight/present/goal


Ann W
05-17-2001, 03:16 AM
Hello Zone Gang,

Was out of town on another company trip - Cancun Mexico this time. Was fun but when it is business it just isn't relaxing. Luckily didn't fall into my trap of gaining weight since the food just wasn't that good so wasn't tempted.

Welcome Jennifer. I found the "Mastering the Zone" book to be the most helpful. Dr. Sears first book really gets bogged down in detail. Mastering gives some great recipes and the info is more summarized. Like Jakeswoman, I also got the starter kit. It was okay but I still have the "shakes" in my fridge and the dried salmon dinner in my cupboard! I also like the www.zonehome.com website though I haven't checked it out in a while.
Sabrina: What is the story - are you just looking for a new job or were you "redeployed" from your old one. It is just amazing here in the Bay Area - soooo many layoffs. My sales are so slow - no one is entering into long term contracts. Your days do sound really long. I took night classes before I was married and it was a real drain on time and energy.
Jakeswoman: Wow - you are always so inspirational. Can't believe all the weight your family has lost together.
Mrs. Yogi: Although I tend to be a Miller Light kind of gal (I grew up in Ohio where we drank 3.2 low alcohol beer) so I am used to watered down. I drink the dark amber ales because they are so bitter to me that one glass will last the entire night. Keeps calorie intake down.
Lisa Sue, Maureen, and everyone else: sounds like everyone is doing well. This is a great time to shed some pounds.

Question to everyone: How much sleep do you usually get? Even on the zone I feel "run down" at times and realize the six hours isn't really cutting it. Granted I have been eating more carbs lately so maybe that is affecting me yet just wondered how many hours of sleep people usually get because we all seem so super busy i.e. kids, jobs, classes etc. Read an article that said msot people are truly sleep deprived etc.

Good Luck to everyone. Hopefully I can get my bucket moving and away from the computer to start working out again!

Take care
Ann W

Mrs. Yogi
05-17-2001, 01:06 PM
Hey Anne, I'm switching to red wine for the rest of the hockey season :)

My favourite amount of sleep is 8 hours (9 hours is really great, but rare...), but I haven't been getting that much the last couple of days. My workouts have been pretty late, and I can never settle down until about 11:30 after one of those.

I didn't have much to eat last night after the gym (I ate a small meal before and a zone snack before bed) and had to get up at 3:00 am to have a slice of rye bread and some peanut butter. That was a first. No more skimping on meals… Are you having your bedtime snacks? I also started taking calcium/magnesium before bedtime. That and the *exercise* makes me sleep really well.

Early to bed for me tonight (no gym today).

Maureen
05-22-2001, 12:46 PM
Hi everyone. Sorry I've been AWOL for a while but I am getting back into the swing of things.
Jennifer, welcome. Everyone here has given you good advice. Mastering the Zone is the best "how to" book for the zone. He not only explains the plan but it also includes about 150 recipes. There is no reason why you wouldn't reach your goal before your wedding. AMy mentioned the quick start kit which is a nice way to start, too. It does cost $100 but if you are serious it is worth it. When my dr first told me about the diet and the kit, I thought "oh no, more money to through away on a diet". But I decided I had nothing to lose but the weight and the money and gave it a try. It does work.
I've not been following the plan as well as I should and am up more than a few pounds from my lowest. My new dr did a blood profile on me and my cholesterol was up to 227 up 30 points from 2 years ago. She wants me to come in for a prescription for medication but I have decided to get back into the zone and see how much I can lose before my next regular appointment in August and ask for another blood test. I don't want to be on any more medication that absolutely necessay. She's a nice young woman but seems to be too quick to prescribe.
We are going to Ohio for the weekend and hope to meet up with our son on Memorial Day. He's back working at Cedar Point and is very happy to be back.
Ann, will you be making your anual treck back there this year?
Amy, I'm glad to see you are still doing so well. How are your mom and sister doing?
I'm with Mrs. Yogi on the sleep question, I need a good 7-9 hours or I don't do well all day. Sometimes I get up with 5-6 hours sleep but after 3-4 hours I am ready for a nap which isn't always possible.
Take y'all.
Maureen

Ann W
05-22-2001, 02:12 PM
HI Zone Gang,

Rather slow at work today or I am just not motivated to work! This darn economy really affects my job so I am trying to enjoy these slow times yet feel "guilty" that I am not doing more.

Working at home today so during a break I tried on some outfits in my closet. Most still fit but would look much nicer if I got back down to the 150 range - very tight through the thighs and waist.

Maureen: Lucky you - another trip to Ohio. We will be heading back in August since we are having a big bash for my mother's 80th birthday. She knows we are having a get together but doesn't know that just about everyone she knows will be there! Of course we will visit Cedar Point and ride our favorite roller coasters - we will look for your red haired son again!

My problem with getting to bed stems from the computer. We are planning a cruise this summer and it is so much fun to get on different cruise web-sites and do research. Then to unwind I play freecell on-line - often well past midnight. My goal is to try to get 8 hours a night and see if it makes a difference. As I mentioned before, I read an article about sleep deprivation and boy did it really hit home.

Hope everyone else is doing well. Bubu: is hockey season over yet?? It seems to go on as long as NBA basketball playoffs.

Take care everyone and happy zoning!
Ann

Mrs. Yogi
05-22-2001, 05:03 PM
Hey Ann

Good going on the clothing front there. Nice to have a waistline again, ain't it? Don't worry about the hip/thigh thing, they just seem bigger cos everything else is shrinking ha ha.

I'm wearing a pair of trousers today that I could not do up a mere 6 months ago. They now have a new zipper and are loose enough around the waist that I can actually tuck in a shirt (unheard of!). They are nice Jones of New York (my favourite designer), lined in black satin, no-fly front and charcoal plaid summerweight wool. Mmmm. so nice to have them back! I'm still keeping the fat pants though. You never know... :)

Hockey down to the final finals. Which means battle to the death soon. New rule - no hockey before walkies. Waddya think?

Have a great week.

179/166/150

Maureen
05-24-2001, 02:04 PM
Ann, Adrian is back on Raptor so hopefully, you'll catch up with him. He'll also fill in on another ride from time to time but Raptor is his full time gig. How exciting to planning a cruise. We've never been but are planning one next year when we celebrate our 25th anniversary.
Babu, how nice you are fitting into "old" clothes. It's like getting a new wardrobe without the expense.
Have you girls tried the new Zoneperfect bars? The have chocolate mint and lemon and are wonderfu!
Hubby and I went to Toronto yesterday to see Mama Mia and it was terrific. I'm listening to the cd now. If any of you ever have the chance to see it do so. You will have a good time and hear great music.
Have a great holiday weekend.
maureen

Jakeswoman
05-24-2001, 06:21 PM
Hello everyone!!

AHHH a cruise Ann-- how wonderful, I've never been but my parents cruise alot and they never have a complaint, they just love it.

Well I (thought) hit the 150's and I celebrated by coloring my hair red-- something I always wanted to do. I was blond before so it is quite shocking to most people. I am having ALOT of fun with it! My 4 year old says it is "groovy" and my 8 year old likes it and is getting a kick telling her friends at school that her mom colored her hair red. My husband surprised me with "Wow-- I really like it"-- he is having fun with it to! I didn't think about it I just walked in and said I want a change-- and we looked through the hair swatches and I picked red--- I felt a little empowered.

Anyway-- you may have noticed that I said (thought)-- well my doctors scale said 157 and the gym scale said the same and I have been running (alot!) and feeling slim-- even wearing a dress I couldn't get past my belly two weeks ago and now it is loose on me. So I counted my chickens before they hatched. I got to WW and now everyone has to weigh in with shoes-- no more socked feet. Board of Health said all people have to have shoes on. And I had these cloggy things on and I actually showed a 1.75 gain-- I was not in the 150's and they would not deduct any weight for the shoes. But I know I am there. My mom and I went to the club after WW-- she weighed herself on that scale and sure enough she weighed less--- she weighed less at the docotors too. The shoes did me in as I always weighed with my socked feet only. That's okay-- I can cope-- funny how much of a head game this all is! I still deserve my red hair-- I WILL BE IN THE 150's NEXT WEEK!

Maureen-- I got the coupon in the mail for the new zone bars-- the lemon ones interest me the most. I'll have to try them out.

Got to run-- everyone keep it up!!

Amy aka Jakeswoman

Mrs. Yogi
05-24-2001, 06:38 PM
Hey Amy, way to *go*. Buy a pair of terrycloth slippers from K-mart for the next weigh in, or better yet, just throw the darn scales out the window. You're there already, why sweat the 1.75? It's all in how you feel, and I would say you are definitely in the Zone.

What is it with boys and red hair? Some things I will never understand he he.

I'm growing out some red from 2.5 years ago. Decided to go au naturel and let my gray hairs fly in the wind. I'm almost 50 and got tired of keeping it up, but I know how great it felt the first time I died mine jet black and had a k.d. lang cut back in the 80s. ( Love those "oh wow"s!)

If I did bright red now people would ask how come it doesn't match my eyebrows :)

MsLiz1956
06-01-2001, 09:55 AM
Any Zoners still around? I've been following the Body For Life fitness program for several months and am doing well with that part of it, but the nutritional element has been a real struggle for me. This body fat simply doesn't want to come off! I only have a few actual pounds to lose, but they are doggone stubborn!

I've tried SugarBusters but found it very confusing because it seemed to lack enough structure for me. Since March I've been on Weight Watchers (on my own, no meetings) and have finally seen the beginnings of change, but I know that's strictly because of calorie restriction. I need more help with TYPES of foods, with the structural guidelines that WW has provided me.

I guess I'm not creative enough in my thinking or something, but the structured eating programs seem to be easier for me to follow.

I've done a LOT of reading over the last several months, and strongly believe in adequate protein and low-glycemic carb eating. Zone eating fits this and is remarkably similar to the eating recommendations in Body for Life, but much more detailed. I read "Entering the Zone" and liked his concepts very much, but the book was WAY too confusing!

I didn't mean to blather so much, sorry! My questions are - what's the best way for me to get the structure and simple detail I need to follow the Zone guidelines? What materials have you found to be the most helpful? What thing(s) do you wish you'd known ahead of time?

Thanks for your help!

BetsyBG
06-01-2001, 11:34 AM
Hello, ladies---I hope there's room for another :) I've been lurking, and Liz's post prompted me to come out of the woodwork. I've been on WW for over a year, with poor results---A lot of the experts have grown critical of WW over the past few years, because it has de-emphasized proper nutrition for the sake of simplicity. Points are emphasized and (in my experience) it is the rare leader who is really familiar with WW's "eating by the numbers" recommendations. (I was lucky to find one online, early on, so that I paid attention to distributing points from the beginning.) This year's Winning Points has addressed this a bit more comprehensively than the 123 Success program----The Right Mix booklet describes, pretty well, how to distribute points across the food groups.

All that said, I was meticulously following the higher-protein recommendations and getting nowhere. About 3 weeks ago, I started incorporating Zone techniques with WW, and have had MUCH more success. I don't agree with some of the science behind Barry Sears' recommendations, but do believe that it makes great sense to create balance for every meal and snack. And it's working, which WW alone was not.

Before I started the combo Zone-WW thing, I was already being very careful with my carb choices. I was eating the same number of calories that I am now. My calories were distributed across the food groups in almost the same way (though some days leaned a little higher carb). The main difference is that I am balancing each meal and snack, rather than aiming for overall balance over the course of a day's time. I've also added a bit of fat back in. I thought it would drive me insane to try to figure out the correlation between points and Zone blocks, but the two programs are VERY compatible.

In terms of what you need to get going, Liz, visit www.zoneperfect.com. There's a ton of information there. I have the original Zone book, but it is bogged down with dubious scientific explanations that make the whole thing seem MUCH more difficult that it really is. Mastering the Zone is more manageable. I felt pretty strongly about hanging on to the most basic tenets of WW (and every other health-promoting agency's recommendations): at least 5 fruits/veggies a day (I've always leaned more heavily toward veggies), regular exercise, and plenty of water. I've taken away the wiggle room I used to have for junkier choices (WW leaves a LOT of room for that, even if you make sure that you're meeting all of your nutritional needs), and it has made a TREMENDOUS difference in how I feel. And the scale is actually moving (in the right direction :)) I do not feel as though I've given anything up----I still have treats, but as with WW, I plan for them.

I have several journals...one for the WW higher protein recommendations, one for each of the other two WW plans (higher carb and balanced), and one that combines WW's higher protein plan with the Zone. It has room for recording what I eat, then two columns: one in which I check off boxes for the Zone blocks, and another where I check off the WW recommendations (fruits/veggies, higher protein choices, milk, waters, exercise, etc.) You are welcome to any/all of them (email me at eab1220@aol.com, and I'll send 'em to you)---though I have to say that now that I've gotten the hang of what I'm doing, I don't journal at all---I know what each of my meals/snacks consist of, nutritionally, and don't feel the need to write it down.

Okay, so much for easing into the thread...nothing like leaping out of lurkdom and moving directly into novel-writing :D I hope no one minds!

MsLiz1956
06-01-2001, 04:01 PM
Betsy, you are truly awesome! Thanks for the sheets - they're very helpful! I'm a big believer in using "tools!"

I picked up "A Week in the Zone" - of all the ones I looked at, it seemed to be the most useful. "Mastering" looked like it was mostly recipes. I can hardly wait to get started!

I'm working on a shopping list right now!

I'd like to keep this thread going, 'cause I need the support!

Ann W
06-03-2001, 03:16 AM
Hi Zoners,

Welcome to the thread MsLiz and Betsy. Wow Betsy, you seem to have the zone under control! I am similar to MsLiz and don't have that much weight to lose - I have gained 20 plus pounds since I turned 40 a few years ago. But are those pounds ever stubborn. Lost 12 pounds a few years ago but they have slowly krept back on.

I don't know too much about weight watchers however Jakeswoman has had some real success by combining both.
Congrats jakeswoman on your 150's!

Keep posting you two because I need some extra motivation. Am starting to grow out of my current size and will not allow myself any new clothes until my regular size fits again

Good luck!
Ann

Jakeswoman
06-03-2001, 10:29 AM
Hello!!

MsLiz and Betsy I have been doing the Zone or using Zone principles for a couple of years now. When I hit a point where I needed to gain control again-- I was getting bored-- I decided to join WW and combine the points with Dr. Sears ideas. It has been very successful for me-- I needed WW accountability and structure and because it is so flexible I can easily eat 40-30-30. I joined WW on November 30th last year and I have lost about 25 additional pounds. I have lost about 50 pounds in three years. It may seem slow but it is staying off-- I was a size 22 in August of 1998 and just the other day I bought two pair of size 12 GAP jeans-- UNREAL!!

The most important change I made in my life during this endeavor was making exercise a religion in my life. I went from huffing and puffing up ONE flight of stairs to running in 5 mile races. I cross train with running. spinning and weight lifting. I use to WO 5-6 times a week (remember) but now I can lose weight and keep tone by WO about 3 times a week as long as I do other activities-- like hiking with my kids or doing yard work etc..

Anyone can lose weight on any "diet"-- the thing to keep in mind when choosing one for yourself is "can you live this way?"-- the Zone offers a lifetime way for me to eat (and I enjoy everything!! I do not deprive myself, I just discovered what moderation means).

This forum is great- these women have been the heart of my success-- they are always here and the support is unlimited.

WHAT A CHANGE FOR US!! My husband I just celebrated our 12th anniversary last night-- guess what we did???? We got a sitter and we went to the gym! Have we come a long way or what? It was great! We did go out for drinks after a suana and shower-- but it was all within the plan. IT CAN BE DONE!

Besides exercise my other BIG TIP is NEVER LET YOUR HOUSE BECOME BARREN!! Grocery shop weekly and always keep it stocked with whatever you need to stay on track. Nuts, fruit, fresh veggies, easy to use protiens like Perdue short cuts, soy bread, etc....... the minute there is nothing balanced in your house it is so easy to revert to old eatting patterns!

Boy what a blabber mouth! I still love my red hair----- it is quite the attention getter!! To think three years ago I just wanted to blend in and be unnoticed because I was so overweight and now I am a red head looking to turn heads-- I'm in a good place!!!!

It was so good to hear from you Ann-- HEy Maureen where are you!!! I know it is getting harder and harder for me to keep up too-- but I still lurk around and when I need a lift I always come here!! Sabrina-- I hope you are doing well too!

Got to go get my plants in the ground-- this year we are trying corn and peas with our small tomato and lettuce garden.

Wish some sunny weather my way-- it has been raining for weeks!

Amy aka Jakeswoman

Jakeswoman
06-03-2001, 10:53 AM
Hello!!

MsLiz and Betsy I have been doing the Zone or using Zone principles for a couple of years now. When I hit a point where I needed to gain control again-- I was getting bored-- I decided to join WW and combine the points with Dr. Sears ideas. It has been very successful for me-- I needed WW accountability and structure and because it is so flexible I can easily eat 40-30-30. I joined WW on November 30th last year and I have lost about 25 additional pounds. I have lost about 50 pounds in three years. It may seem slow but it is staying off-- I was a size 22 in August of 1998 and just the other day I bought two pair of size 12 GAP jeans-- UNREAL!!

The most important change I made in my life during this endeavor was making exercise a religion in my life. I went from huffing and puffing up ONE flight of stairs to running in 5 mile races. I cross train with running. spinning and weight lifting. I use to WO 5-6 times a week (remember) but now I can lose weight and keep tone by WO about 3 times a week as long as I do other activities-- like hiking with my kids or doing yard work etc..

Anyone can lose weight on any "diet"-- the thing to keep in mind when choosing one for yourself is "can you live this way?"-- the Zone offers a lifetime way for me to eat (and I enjoy everything!! I do not deprive myself, I just discovered what moderation means).

This forum is great- these women have been the heart of my success-- they are always here and the support is unlimited.

WHAT A CHANGE FOR US!! My husband I just celebrated our 12th anniversary last night-- guess what we did???? We got a sitter and we went to the gym! Have we come a long way or what? It was great! We did go out for drinks after a suana and shower-- but it was all within the plan. IT CAN BE DONE!

Besides exercise my other BIG TIP is NEVER LET YOUR HOUSE BECOME BARREN!! Grocery shop weekly and always keep it stocked with whatever you need to stay on track. Nuts, fruit, fresh veggies, easy to use protiens like Perdue short cuts, soy bread, etc....... the minute there is nothing balanced in your house it is so easy to revert to old eatting patterns!

Boy what a blabber mouth! I still love my red hair----- it is quite the attention getter!! To think three years ago I just wanted to blend in and be unnoticed because I was so overweight and now I am a red head looking to turn heads-- I'm in a good place!!!!

It was so good to hear from you Ann-- HEy Maureen where are you!!! I know it is getting harder and harder for me to keep up too-- but I still lurk around and when I need a lift I always come here!! Sabrina-- I hope you are doing well too!

Got to go get my plants in the ground-- this year we are trying corn and peas with our small tomato and lettuce garden.

Wish some sunny weather my way-- it has been raining for weeks!

Amy aka Jakeswoman

MsLiz1956
06-04-2001, 11:19 AM
I appreciate the responses! I picked up "A Week in the Zone" and managed to get "Mastering the Zone" from the library this weekend as well. Those, combined with some info from the websites I found, gave me a clearer picture of the Zone!

I went shopping, skipped the usual "diet" foods and loaded the cart with fruit and veggies! I know this will take some getting used to, but I really like the principles!

The only "problem" I've encountered is that I can't eat all that food! I have a very small appetite, and haven't been able to finish all the carbs at one sitting! So I've opted to eat more fruit until I get used to the larger portions! I'm really avoiding all starchy carbs, at least for the time being. I mean, what's the point in even bothering with 1/4 cup of pasta?!?!?

I do notice that I feel more clear-headed today, which is highly unusual for a Monday! I'm really excited & looking forward to learning more! :wave:

Mrs. Yogi
06-04-2001, 02:47 PM
Great to have new people on board here, I was getting kind of lonesome. Must be that article in "Us" last week that's got people trying it out. (hey, if it works for Jennifer Anniston... he he)

Food is a wonderful thing !

Just keep the fridge stocked with cooked protein and fruit and veggies and drink lotsa water, and exercise, and the fat just flies off.

It works!

MsLiz1956
06-04-2001, 04:18 PM
Jennifer WHO?! :p I don't read magazines (except Muscle Media) and I don't watch much TV (including Friends), but I do remember seeing a news item recently on ZonePerfect meals being delivered secretly to "stars," including her.

What brought me to the Zone was my workout program, Body for Life (by Bill Phillips). I've been working out since last August & am doing really well :cool: but can't seem to lose this last few pounds of bodyfat. The Zone diet is amazingly similar to Phillips' recommendations (which are pretty close to the 40-30-30), but with the emphasis on low-glycemic carbs. I generally eat pretty well, but I discovered I have a thyroid disorder that totally screws up my metabolism.

I looked into SugarBusters, but it just didn't "stick" for me. I don't know why, because I really believe in the concepts. I think it was just not specific enough, especially with regard to total caloric intake and recommendations for menus.

I had purchased "Entering the Zone" several months ago while I was doing research into nutrition. Again, I liked the concepts, but that book was WAY too confusing! I'm glad to find other versions that are more "user friendly!" I decided to re-visit the Zone material when it was recommended as the "ideal" plan for hypothyroidism.

I've been pretty successful at sticking to things when they really make sense to me and fit in my lifestyle.

Thanks for doing a new thread! Let's keep this hoppin', cause I need all the help I can get!

Mrs. Yogi
06-04-2001, 06:44 PM
Jakeswoman, that is the greatest anniversary story I've ever heard!

I can't get DH to join a gym with me, so I joined the ladies only one, which works when he's away but tough to do when he's home.

We are walking and biking together way more, though, and he's gotten into the Zone thing himself due to my example (NOT nagging!).

He's doing great in his little home gym (if we ever move to a bigger house we'll have more room and will be able to install a serious workout room for both of us...), and once I get rid of this hay fever I'll be back at it myself.

Congratulations on the twelve years! That is awesome.

MsLiz1956
06-05-2001, 09:33 AM
Jakeswoman - happy anniversary! What a cool thing to do together!

MrsYogi - that's great that DH is "Zoning" with you, and that you didn't nag him into it! Guys always like to thing something's their idea! Just keep smiling and serving that Zone food! :lol:

Day 2, and I'm surprised at how good I feel! I can't believe I haven't had any sugar for 3 days and I'm not dying! I got hungry once yesterday (mid-morning, which is typical since I eat breakfast so early) but I had already decided when I laid out my meal plans that I'd probably need 12 blocks instead of 11, because of the intensity of my weight training. So I just added a mid-morning snack & was fine all day!

It sorta scares me to have a late-night snack, thinking it will go straight to my thighs while I'm sleeping, but it's nice to not wake up feeling hungry!

Let's go, girls!

Mrs. Yogi
06-05-2001, 01:11 PM
MsLiz, you gotta have those snacks. They are so great. I know it's not always easy to eat just before bed (I hate having to brush away the wonderful flavour of olives and fruit and floss the nuts out of my teeth so soon after eating...) BUT it's great not to go to bed hungry!

Don't miss that brain fog at all.

Been having a few off-Zone days due to DH birthday (ooh homemade fish and chips, choclit cake and ice cream last night yikes), but it's not as if I won't be back at it again today. The beauty of it is it's not so restrictive that you can't indulge in treats now and then. I actually do treats on the weekend in moderation - don't need anywhere near as much sugar to satisfy the sweet tooth now, so it's not that much of a threat to my wellbeing :)

Good luck, and enjoy the good eats. I can't wait to get back to weight training, been off for about 10 days due to hay fever - I haven't felt like doing much of anything except getting horizontal after work... oh well. This will pass.

Have a great day.

sabrina
06-06-2001, 01:49 AM
Hi everyone,

Gosh, I haven't posted in a LONG time. I'm still kicking, although a lot has happened over the past few weeks.

The biggest one is I was "redeployed" from my job. It is a layoff, but with 45 days notice. During this time, they are paying me to find another job, either within the company or with another company. If, after July 5 (my last day) I do not find a job, I will get a nice severance package:cool: . So, while it is stressful knowing that my job is ending, and has been difficult getting any interviews, I am confident that something good will come along soon. The funny thing is, I had this fantasy about how much time I would have to exercise and lay around the house during redeployment, but looking for a job is hard work! Plus I have school, so I'm staying quite busy as it is.

I need to go back and read everyone's posts thoroughly to catch up. I am going to print them out so I can go relax on the couch and see what you have all been up to.

Keep Zoning!
Sabrina

Mrs. Yogi
06-06-2001, 03:05 PM
Hey, that's interesting, lots of people going thru job change scenarios right now (self included).

I think there is a global shedding of old things and a general plunging ahead into new territory for some, which can be a very good thing.

Of course you'll have more gym time Sabrina! That's what layoffs are for ha ha.

At least you'll be in fighting form, if not your finances :( AND you'll look great for those interviews.

Good luck and spend some of that package on yourself if you get it.

MsLiz1956
06-06-2001, 03:30 PM
Sabrina~~"redeployed?" Is that the latest terminology? Geez, I can't keep up any more!! Well, you don't sound too distraught! This could be a great time to rethink your plans and get started on your new life! Take up Body For Life" like so many of us have - it's a blast! :D

Mrs Yogi - you sound like you speak from experience about shedding old things! Hit those weights, girlie! It's good for whatever ails us!

Jakeswoman - you sound like you've really come a long way with your lifestyle - red hair and all! ;) That's such an inspiration! Thanks for the Zone tips - they help a lot!

Besty and Ann - are you still with us?

sabrina
06-06-2001, 04:15 PM
Hi,

Liz - I had to laugh at that term too. Don't say "laid off" say
"redeployed". LOL! They probably paid some high-priced consultant to come up with that one. And no, I'm not terribly distraught. If push comes to shove, my severance would cover me for four months. If things get really desperate, I could always contract out as a Technical Writer. Even though I really want to stay in Marketing, tech writing is a skill that I can always fall back on.

Anyway, I was really unhappy and it was time to make a change anyway. Now I have more time to look for a new and better job, which is great.

Everyone - I did print out the posts last night and read them all and they were soooo inspirational. I got out my Zone book and made a perfect 2 block breakfast. Lunch isn't so perfect (sushi) but dinner sure will be. My plan to do 2 blocks at breakfast,
3 at lunch, and 4 for dinner, plus the snacks. I just do better if I eat more at night for some reason.

I've been out of the discipline of counting blocks for so long, this should be good for me. Do any of you know of sites where people post their daily menus? I sure could use some inspiration.

Take care,
Sabrina

Ann W
06-09-2001, 03:43 PM
Hi Zoners!

Have been trying to limit my time on the computer as I feel it has become somewhat obsessive - even my kids have commented. I am really researching this mediteranean cruise that we are doing in July - trying to book private tours, doing research on cities etc. all over the internet. I then check out 3FC and then play a little Freecell on-line and all of a sudden its 1:00a.m. YIKES!

Moderation moderation in all we do!! Have pulled myself away and have started playing tennis again and walking with my daughters - it is so much more fun to walk with someone.

Miz Liz: Also have to hit the weights again - really enjoy the "studette" feeling I get - shoulders back and standing tall after I lift and workout.
Jakeswoman: didn't realize how much weight you have lost all together. The WW really got you past that last plateau. Some friends have just joined so maybe I can join them. There is a WW just down the street a few miles.
Maureen: Sounds like you are busy. We will definitely look up Adrian since the Rapture is one of our favorites. (next to the Millennium roller coaster). If anyone wants to ride the best coasters ever - Cedar Point is the way to go. Always wins the award for Best Amusement Park in the US year after year.

Sabrina: Yes I have heard all those words. I worked for NCR Corp when it was taken over by AT&T some years ago. Had worked for them since college - over 17 years! Ended up taking the severance package and got a job that over the past few years has tripled my income from the NCR days. Most everyone who left ended up in a better job. Do they have job placement services? I attneded seminars that were like group therapy but really had us focus on what we do well, what we like, how to put it on a resume and how to articulate it in an interview. Was wonderful so if it is offered take them up on it.
Mrs. Yogi: You have such a wonderful attitude - hope you are losing.

Enough enough - time to get off. Yes I am nearing 155 hash mark again - now to get under it!
Ann W

mickers
06-11-2001, 02:35 PM
Hello,
I dusted off and old copy of the orginal book the zone and finally figured out the plan. I just ordered the quickstart kit - which is expensive and probably not necessary especially since it is backordered 10 days.

my situation.....
I recently had a baby and was laid off when I returned to work. Errr.... I mean I was redeployed...

So basically I am feeling fat and I need to find a job. I am mortified at how much I currently weigh, and my attempts to watch what I eat-- have not changed the scale at all. Besides occasional stroller walks, I have not been excercising that much which I know is part of the problem. But I have started to use my stairmaster once again this week.

I have lost weight successfully before on WW- and CAD (not good) but my recent attempt on WW was not very successful.

I guess I am looking for some encouragement on how soon I could see even a 5lb loss on the scale.

Sorry if this sounds so negative, but I never imagined that I would be interviewing wearing maternity clothes!!!

I promise my next posting will be cheery.


mickers.
155/








;)

sabrina
06-12-2001, 03:37 AM
Hi everyone -

I can't sleep so decided to get online and catch up on email and see who's posted here lately.

Ann:

>>> Most everyone who left ended up in a better job. Do they have job placement services?

That is my hope -- my job went from fun and challenging to a big bore, and I want to get that fire and passion back again. I crave working with bright and interesting people! Our company, to their credit, has been great about our redeployment. I went to an interviewing techniques class with a local career services firm today, and last Friday I had a one-on-one with a resume coach. I thought my resume was pretty tight but it's amazing what an objective pair of eyes can do.

Anyway, I am GETTING BORED! I thought it would be kinda fun to stay at home for awhile but the novelty has worn off. I mean, I am very busy networking and applying for jobs, etc., etc., but it is all very routine and I need something to challenge my BRAIN. ARGH!!! At least my next class starts on Thursday, so I'll at least have some text books to read. Thank GAWD. I feel like if I don't get some mental stimulation soon I will turn into a moron, LOL!


Mickers: Welcome to our board. It's a great group of women here, everyone is so warm and helpful. I think you'll enjoy it here. Anyway, about the 5 pounds -- it really is different for everyone. Even when I'm absolutely perfect with the blocks/exercise/water, I only lose a pound a week or less. However, I do lift weights and I only have about 25# to lose, so I realize I'm probably going to lose slower than a lot of people. Doing the Zone should make you feel better though, with more energy, and I'm sure with a new baby you need all the energy you can get, eh?

Well, I've written a bit of a book here. I hope everyone is doing fine.

Sabrina

:dizzy:

Ann W
06-12-2001, 08:43 PM
hello Zonettes

Welcome Mickers. yes we all have those days when you look in the mirror and just feel BADDDDD about the reflection. Are you breastfeeding? My past experience that my weight didn't come off until I completely weaned the babies. Guess your body just hangs onto everything incase of famine or drought etc!

Several of us purchased the quick start kit. I like the bars and the meals for the most part - couldn't handle the milk shake things! Thins it is a good way to really get into it.

Good luck in finding a new job.

Sabrina: I was still on the payroll but without a job for three months during my "redeployment". Unfortunately, I didn't get all that much accomplished - was somewhat disappointed. I too enjoy working and being busy - just wish I could work three days a week or something like that.

Everyone else: Hope everyone is losing!

Ann W

mickers
06-13-2001, 02:32 PM
Hi,
Thanks for the replies and support that I got. I am no longer breastfeeding - so these extra lbs have no business hanging around- any longer!! I will be getting my quick start kit soon- will report back.

Thanks!
mickers

MsLiz1956
06-13-2001, 03:19 PM
What a week I've had...I'm still recovering from last week, and here it is mid-week again....I think I need a vacation, gals :(

The great thing is how absolutely fabulous I feel! I went back to the doctor a couple weeks ago, convinced that my thyroid was TOTALLY out of whack again. I was so tired I couldn't even complete my workouts any more, & I was sleeping 11 hours a night on the weekends. (WAY weird if you knew me)

Well, it wasn't my thyroid. This is my second week on the Zone, and within 2 days of starting it, I felt like a completely different person. I'm feeling better than I have in years, and the only thing I've changed is my diet.

I'm sold!

I'm also amazed at how easy it has been to stick with the eating. It makes a lot of sense, it's really not complicated (even though it looks like it), and I'm never hungry. I've had no trouble finding Zone-friendly foods even when eating out! It DOES require thinking ahead to make sure I buy enough groceries...this is a LOT of food!!! And I spend more time preparing (and EATING) than I did before, but it's certainly manageable.

Geez, this really works!!

Mrs. Yogi
06-14-2001, 05:32 PM
Hey that's fantastic!

Amazing what a little fine tuning can do, huh? I'm hanging out on another thread and working on a couple of folks who are thinking about jumping into the Zone but are having a really hard time adjusting to the low carb idea, but it does appear to be complicated. Maybe someone should just come out with the book called "The Zone for Dummies" to explain it in layman's terms. Sears does go on, you really have to skim thru and not get bogged down in the science of it.

I feel like a broken record going on about the glycemic index. Hope I'm not boring everyone to death!

Down 2 lbs in the past 2 weeks. :D

179/164/150

Jakeswoman
06-15-2001, 09:40 AM
Hello Zoners!!

Everyone sounds really into it.

Sabrina, I have been meaning to post especially just to wish you luck and tell you I am sorry that you have to go through the hassle of "redeployment"-- but like my Mom always said (and d*** it she is never wrong) "there is always a reason for everything". I hope you find just what you want-- be tough at the negotiating table, it sounds like you have a lot to offer a company!

I have, yet again, maintained for the 15th (actually I have lost count) week. But it is really by choice, I am sooo happy with myself that the scale number is mattering less and less. I only have 10 pounds to go to be at my ultimate weight (a number I picked myself with my doctor) and coming from 200+ it is hard to get all obessessed about 10 lousy pounds! So this summer I plan to maintain-- my best "losing" months are Sept-Oct and Nov.-- so I will get down to business then. I will focus on my running and weight lifting-- weigh myself once a week and eat enough to maintain what I am now. It is going to be a great summer! I actually have NO druthers about putting on a suit in public-- NONE-- I feel emotionally happy and that is what counts.

Got to run--- Keep it up everyone!!!!

Amy/ Jakeswoman
205/160/150

donna_k
06-16-2001, 08:46 PM
Hi! How is everyone doing today?

I haven't posted in a really long time so I doubt any of you remember me. I started doing the Zone a few months ago but unfortunately I fell off the wagon after a few weeks. But I finally decided to get back in the Zone and be serious about it this time around. Like I said, this is my second run at the Zone, which is pretty amazing in itself because other than just plain old calorie counting I've never done one "diet" twice. And even while I was off the program I still tried to maintain the 40/30/30 balance in many of my meals. I just think that the balanced eating concept is the best thing for my body and I really hope I can take it somewhere this time. It's just been really frustrating because I'm one of those people who want results NOW and if I don't get them I quit. But at least with the Zone I can focus on some of the immediate results that I can have, like having more energy and knowing that I'm doing something good for my body by keeping my blood sugar stable.
Thanks for listening to my whining. :)

~Donna~

PS: Does anyone have a good source for zoned recipes (other than the books)?

Ann W
06-16-2001, 08:57 PM
Welcome back Donna - yes I remember you. Always wonder what happens to "chicks" who post and then we never hear from them again. Suppose some are on other threads and others just forget the website name!

Of all my cookbooks the easist one that has some great zone type recipes is the Better Homes & Gardens Dieters Cookbook. I have seen it in second hand book stores before. It has great pictures (I must be motivated before cooking!) and best of all it breaks down the recipe in Protein, carbs & fat. along with the calories. Everything is pretty easy to make and very few strange ingrediants.

I was at Trader Joes today and they have started carrying Zone Bars - yippee. They had my favorite chocolate raspberry crunch one. Bought a couple of dozen.
Happy zoning everyone. Don't work to hard Maureen.

Ann W

Hockeychic
06-17-2001, 02:57 PM
I have been reading your posts and doing some research on The Zone Diet. I have a underactive thyroid and apparently the Zone diet is very good for this condition. I have checked out the site and have the food lists but there are a few things I can't fiqure out. How many blocks do I eat a day? I currently weight 165. I started at 180 and through cutting out the junk I lost 15 pds but have stalled. Many people have mentioned a increase in energy which I really need. But I just need a little help, I want to start this tomorrow so I hope I hear from someone today. Thank you all very much.:lol:

Hockeychic
06-17-2001, 06:55 PM
Oh one more. How do you eat these blocks. And what is a sample menu

Thanks